Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / Boost Your Sales: Website Design & the Power of Human Connection
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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the show. Currently at my desk.
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- 0:3708064662140. Today on the show, we are going
- 0:44to be doing the second part of the two parter that we started
- 0:48yesterday. So yesterday we looked at the
- 0:50question of whether a website can sell on your behalf and I
- 0:54answered the question by saying it's a capital and oh, the
- 0:57website cannot sell on your behalf and selling is not
- 1:00something that can be done passively.
- 1:03So what the website can do is to make it easier for people to
- 1:06make a purchase. If you think that splitting
- 1:10hairs, then just listen to yesterday's episode.
- 1:12Hopefully I explained it a little bit better.
- 1:15So today we're going to look at the website architecture that is
- 1:18needed to get more people to make a purchase or to make it
- 1:22easier for people to make a purchase or to buy from you.
- 1:25But please, as you're listening to this episode, remember part
- 1:28of what I was saying yesterday, that selling is active.
- 1:32It's an active process, and selling is always necessary.
- 1:37Even if you're trying to hook up your website to make selling
- 1:43unnecessary, you still should be looking for ways to insert
- 1:47yourself into the sales process or to insert some kind of human
- 1:52into the sales process, because that is how we are going to
- 1:55maintain customer relationships for the long haul.
- 1:59So even those of you who are trying to hook up your website
- 2:02so that people can buy easily on the website, you are not going
- 2:06to be able to maintain customer relationships for the long haul
- 2:10without significant and deliberate human contact that is
- 2:18engaging in selling processes such as need analysis, customer
- 2:25service rules, customer satisfaction rules, you know,
- 2:28all those sorts of things. So we have to insert that into
- 2:31the process because that is what is going to be able to make us
- 2:34maximize our CLV, of course, CLV customer lifetime value.
- 2:40Because remember, the goal of sales is not just that we get a
- 2:42sale now that we get naira and Cobo now.
- 2:46Well, the goal is to make sure that people do business with us
- 2:49again next month, next year, next quarter, next, whatever.
- 2:54I keep coming back and doing business again and again.
- 2:57And then also to bring their friends, their family members
- 3:02and their associates get some referral business.
- 3:04So that is the goal. Traditionally, when we engage in
- 3:07sales, we're trying to maximize the amount of money that we're
- 3:10going to get from this particular person over the
- 3:13course of a lifetime. If we leave it to the website,
- 3:16people will opt in and they will opt out whenever it suits them.
- 3:21And the sad part is we will never know exactly why or what
- 3:24is going on. What if there's been a human
- 3:26being in the loop? And if you have been trying to
- 3:29be deliberate about these sorts of processes, let's say like for
- 3:32instance, the customer satisfaction process.
- 3:35If nothing else, going through the database calling people that
- 3:40have bought from you and having that simple conversation.
- 3:43I noticed you bought 3 times for us last year.
- 3:45We really appreciate your business.
- 3:46Hope there's been no problem with any of the purchases or by
- 3:50the way, when you bought this, this and that and that was any
- 3:53problem in particular that you are trying to solve.
- 3:54You know, those simple kind of conversations.
- 3:57At the very least, if you have those kinds of relationships
- 4:00with people who have bought from you over on the website, you'll
- 4:03be able to figure out, you know, why people are opting in, why
- 4:07people are buying or why people are leaving.
- 4:10So please, yes, you can get the website to do a lot of the heavy
- 4:15lifting. But if you want to make lots of
- 4:17money over the long haul, if you want to increase the average
- 4:20order value, that is how much people, how much money people
- 4:24are spending with you each time they do business with you.
- 4:26And if you want to get referrals, then selling and
- 4:30active processes will always be necessary.
- 4:35All right, for those of you who are going to say Amazon, please
- 4:38just refer to the last episode and then listen to everything in
- 4:41context. So today we're supposed to look
- 4:45at the website architecture that you need to get more people to
- 4:49buy from you on the website. Now, when we say architecture,
- 4:52what do we mean? We just mean parts of the
- 4:54website that when they work together, they make it easy to
- 4:58facilitate online purchases. So when we say architecture,
- 5:00we're just meaning, we just mean the different parts of the
- 5:02website. So we, you know, mean things
- 5:05like product pages, navigation and then the checkout processes.
- 5:11So there are other things you can be paying attention to when
- 5:13it comes to the website. But for me, from a sales
- 5:15perspective, I think these are just the main thing shadow we
- 5:17should be paying attention to. So the product pages for those
- 5:20of you who sell products, I guess if you sell the service,
- 5:25service pages, I don't know what it's called, but let's just
- 5:28limit ourselves now to people who sell products.
- 5:30So for the product pages, of course you need to have
- 5:33compelling imagery and compelling videos.
- 5:36But of course, talk to your website personal, talk to the
- 5:38tech person because website speed is an issue.
- 5:43You don't want to use picture formats that are too large or
- 5:47take too long to load because it actually does make a difference
- 5:49whether it takes your website, you know, half a second to open
- 5:54or you know, .85 seconds to open.
- 5:57It really matters because the longer your website takes, you
- 6:01know, the easier it is going to be for people to bounce Because
- 6:05in today's day and age, people are used to websites just
- 6:07opening, you know, sharp, sharp. So be mindful of these sorts of
- 6:12things. And back in my event days, for
- 6:15those of us who are in photography and video, it was a
- 6:17constant battle that we always had on our hands.
- 6:19You know how you're going to upload the video, what
- 6:22resolution are you going to use? Is there any new technology that
- 6:26makes it easier for photos and videos to pre render so that
- 6:32when somebody clicks, the website will open quickly?
- 6:35So yeah, for those watching photo and video, these were some
- 6:38of the battles that we used to face back in the day.
- 6:41So be mindful of this sort of thing.
- 6:42Product pages, make sure pictures on point, make sure
- 6:45videos on point, photos and videos appealing enough to want
- 6:50people to hang around that to figure out what is this, you
- 6:52know, should I click? How can I learn some more?
- 6:56Then there's also descriptions. Your descriptions of the product
- 6:59also has to be on point, please. When you're describing, well, of
- 7:04course you know you're supposed to put all the features there,
- 7:07but from a sales point of view, we don't talk about features too
- 7:11much. We also have to talk about
- 7:13benefits. So if you're going to say this
- 7:16Bluetooth speaker has 50,000 AMH batteries, something something
- 7:21something and you just leave it at that for the average person,
- 7:2450,000 AMH means neither here nor there, but as you say,
- 7:2850,000 AMH battery. And so this means if you're
- 7:32taking this for a 12 hour beach party, you have enough power to
- 7:39last the whole beach party and by the time you get home, you
- 7:42still be able to play it for another 4 hours.
- 7:44You know something like that. Talking in terms of benefits,
- 7:47it'll help people to understand all the technical, you know,
- 7:50gish bound that you're putting up on the on the website.
- 7:52So that's as far as descriptions, then pricing.
- 7:55People have different opinions when it comes to putting pricing
- 7:58on the website, but this is where I look at it.
- 8:04Instead of wasting time arguing and quarrelling amongst
- 8:08ourselves, which is better to put pricing or not to put
- 8:10pricing, just realise that pricing can be a qualification
- 8:13tool. Qualification is a process that
- 8:16we go through in sales to try and figure out whether this
- 8:19particular person that I'm talking to, is this person a
- 8:22good lead? Is this person a good prospect?
- 8:24Is this person a good? Is there a possibility that this
- 8:28person might end up buying? So instead of arguing which is
- 8:32best and which is not, just be deliberate about whether you
- 8:35want to use pricing as a qualification tool.
- 8:38So if you want to use pricing as a qualification tool, then
- 8:40please put your pricing on the website and make it very clear
- 8:45so that people who are scared by the money should see it and
- 8:48should bounce so that anybody who calls you or who continues
- 8:54from the website already knows that you guys are, you know,
- 8:57premium price or expensive or whatever.
- 9:02So just decide upfront. And then some people prefer to
- 9:05do the qualification themselves, as in I won't put the pricing
- 9:08information on the website so that by the time the person
- 9:10clicks on the e-mail to know more or to something like that,
- 9:14I get to have a conversation with the person.
- 9:16Maybe I might be able to toast them to get a sale or something,
- 9:18something or something. So those are just the two
- 9:21different philosophies, Abby. No, it's more like 1 philosophy
- 9:25about putting pricing on website.
- 9:27It's not about which is more effective or which is not.
- 9:29It's about what do you want to do?
- 9:31Do you want to chase away time wasters or are you trying to
- 9:33have conversations with as many people as possible?
- 9:36If you want to have conversations with as many
- 9:37people as possible, then don't put the price.
- 9:41If you want to chase away time wasters, excuse me, then put the
- 9:44price. I'll make it easy to find so
- 9:47that people who don't like it, they will go and they will not
- 9:49disturb you so that if anybody is sending you an e-mail, the
- 9:52person already knows you guys are expensive and they're OK
- 9:55with the price. Then OK reviews and ratings.
- 10:00That would also be good on the site because you help.
- 10:04These are proxies that help people figure out what is
- 10:07moving, what is not moving, what is quality, what is not quality,
- 10:10you know, blah, blah, blah. Then also have people who have
- 10:14been giving you reviews on Google and people giving
- 10:17testimonials and stuff like that.
- 10:18Will be nice to also put those on the site because they can
- 10:21help convince people or people who have certain questions about
- 10:27things. Yeah, testimonials address a
- 10:29whole lot basically. So it's nice to have those sort
- 10:32of things there. Then let's see what else and
- 10:35call to action. Now, unfortunately, too many
- 10:37people make websites like brochures.
- 10:39You just throw up information there and just leave it hanging.
- 10:42And that's not the point of a website.
- 10:43Remember, we're trying to get people to buy something or we're
- 10:46trying to get people to engage in conversation with us.
- 10:49So there has to be some sort of call to action that is clear on
- 10:51the website. So for Amazon, the clear call to
- 10:55action is add to cart. You know, add to cart is all
- 10:58over the page because that's what I want you to do.
- 11:01I want you to click on that thing and add it to the basket.
- 11:04And then of course, by the time you get to basket, what's the
- 11:08next step? Add to cart?
- 11:10What's the next step? Is it process AB payments or so
- 11:12Anyway, those of you who buy online, you understand what I
- 11:15mean. But you have to make sure that
- 11:17the call to action is clear. What do you want the person to
- 11:19do next? So is it add to cart?
- 11:21Is it buy? Some people have a button that
- 11:23just says buy now or do you want to make enquiries?
- 11:26So whatever it is, your call to action should be clear.
- 11:29Then navigation, that's also another thing.
- 11:33Some websites are just too complex.
- 11:35Too many tabs, too many this, too many that and then you get
- 11:38lost. So the simpler you can make the
- 11:40navigation the better. That is why for me, even though
- 11:44I don't have a website now, I'm telling you guys straight
- 11:46upfront, when I have my website, my website is going to be the
- 11:49simplest website you've ever seen.
- 11:51There's only going to be 3 buttons once you get to the
- 11:53website, there'll be 3 buttons for people who are interested in
- 11:56the podcast, there'll be 1 button for people who are
- 11:58interested in my public speaking, there's going to be
- 12:01another button. And for people who are
- 12:03interested in coaching, consulting and all that, there's
- 12:06going to be another button. So my own navigation, I mean,
- 12:09I've already decided now no matter what the website
- 12:12professional wants to tell me will be, look, this website has
- 12:15got to be the simplest website anybody has ever seen.
- 12:19Three buttons only. I don't want people getting lost
- 12:23because you clicked on this menu, you clicked on another
- 12:26menu and then, oh, where was I? But I was interested in this and
- 12:29no, no, no, no, no, no, for my own website.
- 12:32It will be 3, I've decided, and that's what I'm going to tell
- 12:35them. I don't care what best practices
- 12:37for my own website. Three buttons only.
- 12:40So you guys also have to come up with these decisions for
- 12:44yourself because we leave it to these website boys and website
- 12:46girls. They're going to build the
- 12:48biggest, the fanciest with plenty of transitions and with
- 12:52plenty of tabs and plenty of links and plenty of that.
- 12:55You know, because they feel like they have to justify all the
- 12:58hundreds of thousands and millions, you know, that we're
- 13:00paying them. And then the thing looks pretty,
- 13:02but then it's complicated and people can get lost on it.
- 13:05So navigation, keep it simple, clear menus, simple categories,
- 13:12then let's see what else? OK, check out process.
- 13:14So just make sure that your checkout process is very, very
- 13:17simple because for some people it's it's too clunky.
- 13:22In fact, back to our brother in the space Amazon.
- 13:25I hear that because I haven't shopped there in a very long
- 13:29time in years, but I hear that now would say it's like a one
- 13:33click thing. To be honest, I don't even know
- 13:36how it works. I should even ask my wife so so
- 13:37I can understand, but I hear it's a very simple process now.
- 13:41Once you click AutoCAD, everything is just there.
- 13:43And the last time I shopped on Amazon, that's back when I was
- 13:47still in uni, back when I was still doing my masters, you
- 13:51would click on proceed to check out, then from proceed to check
- 13:55out. It will show you review order,
- 13:57then from review order you will now enter in your card details
- 14:01and then stuff like that. So I hear that Amazon has even
- 14:03done away with all those things so that once you click out to
- 14:06cart and everything is in cart from cart, you only click on one
- 14:09button, ma'am, and then payment everything done.
- 14:12So the simpler the better. So make sure you have a simple,
- 14:19a simple card, simple review. Let's see what else.
- 14:23Sure, everything is supposed to flow simply.
- 14:24Now, of course, you have to make sure that security has to be on
- 14:26point because of the new processes.
- 14:29Now for Amazon, if what I had is correct, that is now one click,
- 14:34you know security is going to be a problem.
- 14:37Are you sure that somebody's not committing a fraud on your
- 14:39system because the payment process is so quick like that?
- 14:43What is to say that maybe when my wife is sleeping, I can't
- 14:46just go onto a computer, log on real quick, quick.
- 14:49And then since payment doesn't have to be validated, I can now
- 14:52use my wife's account, you know, really buy one or two things and
- 14:55then take it and then send it to my side chick, you know, So
- 14:59there's going to be opportunities for fraud.
- 15:01So I'm sure people, good people at Amazon are thinking about
- 15:04these sorts of things. How do we prevent fraud, people
- 15:08buying on other people's accounts, you know, things like
- 15:10that. But anyway, for those of you who
- 15:12want to go the website route, these are some of the things
- 15:14that you need to look into. But let me see the main thing,
- 15:24OK, before we get to what I think, the main thing is visual
- 15:27appeal. We can't run away from visual
- 15:29appeal. So your website has to look
- 15:31nice. Seven of my website is going to
- 15:33be the simplest website you've ever seen.
- 15:35I know, Sha, I have to tell the website boys or the website
- 15:37girls that look when we designed this thing, it has to look nice.
- 15:40It has to look refined. It has to look sophisticated.
- 15:44Even though there's only going to be 3 buttons.
- 15:47But the main domain, domain, domain domain thing, please is
- 15:51apart from all these things you've said, website
- 15:54performance. You got to check your load
- 15:57times. You'll be surprised how long
- 15:59some people's websites take to load at the marketing thing,
- 16:04women in marketing thing we did with Avon.
- 16:06That was last year. How did it go again?
- 16:11OK, I gave, I gave them some websites speak Google.
- 16:16What's it called again? There's some Google tool that
- 16:18you can check how fast your website is loading.
- 16:21You'd be surprised. Some people's website are taking
- 16:23like 4 seconds to load. I mean really 4 seconds to load.
- 16:26And then it was embarrassing actually, because the place that
- 16:29we're hosting the event, some people decided to check their
- 16:33own website. And I think it was one point,
- 16:34something seconds, I can't remember, 1.6 something, 1.7
- 16:37something. So yeah, you know, it was quite
- 16:40a laugh. It was hilarious.
- 16:41And then I think for Radio Nigeria, Radio Nigeria's website
- 16:44opened in less than a second. So it just turned out to be
- 16:47funny shot like, oh, you guys are supposed to be tech people.
- 16:50Radio Nigeria, the site is loading in less than a second.
- 16:53But you guys, your own site is loading in 1.6 something or 1.7
- 16:57something. So test the website speeds, make
- 16:59sure it loads fast because people are impatient these days
- 17:02online. People just run away quickly.
- 17:04And then let's see what else, OK.
- 17:08And then basically you have to be responsive.
- 17:11So for order is paste, you know, ba ba ba shop, shop shop
- 17:15acknowledgement, e-mail receipt, what else some people now have?
- 17:22What do you call this thing, this feature where you can check
- 17:25the status of your order, where you check, you see that all the
- 17:28order is in the warehouse. OK, The order is now in a Papa.
- 17:32The order has left a Papa. The order is now in in Utako.
- 17:39The order is now with, with the dispatch rider.
- 17:42It should be with you in three hours.
- 17:43You know, so some people have those sorts of things, whether
- 17:46it's through e-mail updates or without checking on the
- 17:48websites. So yeah, I'll say that that is
- 17:53just some of the website architecture that you need to
- 17:55pay attention to make it easier for people to buy from you.
- 17:58But Please remember what I said about maximizing the cost of my
- 18:04lifetime value, opportunities for upselling, opportunities for
- 18:07cross selling, building relationships, getting
- 18:10referrals. You know, all that soft touch
- 18:12website cannot do soft touch for us.
- 18:14So make sure that there are humans involved in the process
- 18:20injected into the sales process strategically.
- 18:24Even if you don't want human beings in the beginning, at
- 18:26least on the back end after the sale is done, you should have
- 18:30customer service processes and customer satisfaction processes
- 18:33where there are people calling in every now and then.
- 18:37Thank you for the order. I just checked.
- 18:40I can see based from the status that you received the order
- 18:47yesterday. I hope all is good, nothing was
- 18:49broken. I hope you like your this, I
- 18:51hope you enjoyed your that, you know, blah blah blah.
- 18:54We need to inject human beings into the process.
- 18:56So yes, we want to make money and we want to make money
- 19:00easily, but we should also try and see how we can make money
- 19:03effectively. This idea of trying to remove
- 19:05human beings from the process completely is not entirely a
- 19:10good idea. Yes, some of you say Amazon, but
- 19:14you know I keep saying that. Look, I'm talking to people who
- 19:17were in SME space. One small, 1 medium scale, one
- 19:21self-employed. We're trying to get things
- 19:23going. We only have, you know, like 5
- 19:25employees, 10 employees, 15. You know, we're at this stage
- 19:29where some of these things matter.
- 19:30Eventually you'll become a behemoth like Coca-Cola.
- 19:34I mean, think about Coca-Cola. Thousands, millions of
- 19:37employees. You know, at that stage, you
- 19:39know, there's a limit to how much humanity you can inject
- 19:42into the process or how much personalization can go into the
- 19:45process. So when we become a boheme of
- 19:47yes, we worry about that. But for now, that we're young
- 19:51and we're still small, I beg the human element is how we are
- 19:55going to grow. Don't put too much faith in the
- 20:00online stuff, the passive stuff, the bots, the, you know, let
- 20:04everything sell on my behalf. Let's not put too much faith in
- 20:07there. So that's all for today, folks.
- 20:09Remember, if you've got any sales or marketing questions,
- 20:11then bring them to me. You can call SMS or WhatsApp on
- 20:1408064662140. Thank you very much for your
- 20:19time and attention. I'll catch you, dear listener,
- 20:21at the next episode.