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Live @ BFI Flare 2026! · Camp Classics

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Right, so let's set the scene. It's BFI Flare.
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We've got a packed out cinema, we're outside Crystal ready to
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go in with our first ever live event.
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Wow, we're going for that angle. I don't.
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Know. I'm like, I cannot commit to
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that. No, I don't know.
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I don't know. Hi, it's Crystal.
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Hi, it's Baby Lane. We are just letting you know
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that you're about to listen to our BFI Live Flair Festival.
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I thought you were going to say you were about to listen to our
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bullshit audio. That too.
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Listen, we did an event at BFI and it's our prerogative to
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release it as an episode. Yeah, we had to do it.
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It's a live episode, but you know, the BFI apparently can't
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do audio recording so. Just visuals.
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They're known for their visuals, not their audio recording.
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Yeah, the audio isn't, you know what?
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It's not amazing, but it's very listenable.
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And I will say the chat's good. It would be a shame for this one
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to just be hitting in the cutting room floor so.
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Exactly. So we've got some amazing
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special guests. You're going to hear it all.
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I hope you enjoy this episode and we'll be back with a regular
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episode in two weeks. Get away from her, you bitch.
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Classic. He was in the Amazon with my mom
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when she was researching spiders right before she died.
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No. Hang on.
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Thought you become a prostitute, you're a.
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Dog at it I. Used to love doggy chow.
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I used to love doggy chow too. Hello everybody.
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Hi. Welcome to Camp Classics.
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Oh come on, we can do better than that.
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So welcome to Camp Classics everybody.
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It's a thoughtful podcast about stupid movies.
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Hi. Now we're just gonna renegotiate
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these very low table mics. Here's this Very low, isn't it?
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It's just where. It's able for M.
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And it's just, yeah, I'm just gonna here we go crossover.
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Oh, lean over. So yes, we are here.
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It's an honour to be here at BFI Fly Air Flare Fest.
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Fly Festival, Flare Festival. Tell, I've had a few drinks
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already. Everybody has.
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No, but seriously, it's an honour to be here at BFI Flare
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Festival. 40 years. What a prestigious event
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Crystal. What the hell are we doing here?
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We have no right. Absolutely no right that's.
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We have blagged our way to this festival with our shitty little
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podcast, Everybody that delves into the world of camp cinema.
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What in the homosexual audacity are we doing?
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I'm Crystal. And I'm Baby Lane.
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Now. You might know us through our
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drag alter egos, but we're not getting paid enough money
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tonight. I'll be Crystal.
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So we are here. We are uncovered.
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And do you know what she she's still inside of me.
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Baby lame. It's still inside.
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Me. So if I drop into a song and
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dance number everybody, I can only apologise.
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Oh, I or burst into tears. There's a lot of emotions.
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Is anyone here already a listener of Camp Classics?
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Oh, OK, that's a slightly awkward situation.
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What about any haters? Any haters?
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One hailer at the front? Glad to have you here.
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You know what the rest of you? There's still time, actually.
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No, but seriously, everybody. Here at Camp Classics, we delve
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into true queer camp cinema. We're not talking Mummy Dearest,
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we're not talking showgirls. We're talking Basic Instinct 2
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risk addiction territory, everybody.
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Damn right. The real queer material.
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Yeah, and if you were looking for, you know, 2 experts delving
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into queer theory in cinema, no refunds.
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Not What you've got is 2 unqualified drag Queens who
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really like to talk about why they like hot girls being bad.
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Yeah. I mean, it makes sense.
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So what? How's it all going to work out
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tonight then, Crystal? Well, so we have brought three
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very special guests who are bringing a film for your
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consideration, which isn't considered a queer or camp
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classic, but you know, if you squint, maybe could be.
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So I'm going to introduce them really soon and we'll bring them
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out and then it will be up to you, the audience, to decide
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which film becomes a camp classic officially.
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It's very high stakes tonight, everybody.
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Whoa, Big, big Jeopardy moment for everyone.
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Yeah, it's, you know, it could go anyway.
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But I think before we get into that, I think we should let
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these people know. Baby, yes.
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What makes a Camp classic? Well, thank you for asking.
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Now there was someone called Susan.
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What's the chops? I don't care what her name is.
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Here at Camp Classics, we have redefined our own version of
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what makes a Camp classic. We want something that unlocks
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queer joy in the words of our Lord Savior Megan Fox and
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Jennifer's Body. I want to get a wedding.
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I want a wedding. We want a wetty.
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We want something that is stupid.
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We want something with an ongoing legacy that informs
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queer pop culture. And ultimately it should be anti
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mainstream with underdog flop vibes that's been reclaimed by
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the F slurs. Everybody, thank you.
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Thank you. I think that's what Susan Sontag
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was trying to say, to be honest. Yeah, it took a whole book.
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OK. So you know, I think we've kind
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of teed you up of what a camp classic is before we meet our
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guests. I think maybe instead of hearing
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it, you should also see it. Good idea, Crystal.
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Yeah, because sometimes camp is just a feeling.
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Yes. So we've brought you a clip from
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a film that we've covered on the podcast already.
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That is a camp classic. Certified Camp Classic.
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It's been given our highest rating ever, which is 10 Lizas.
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We've really pulled through the archives now because, you know,
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being at such a prestigious festival like BFI Fly Flair, we
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fought BFI Fly, BFI Flair. We thought it was suitable to
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get a real cinematic masterpiece.
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Isn't that right? That's right.
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Has anyone seen? I know who killed me?
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Yes, yes, yes. OK, let me set the scene.
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I think it's fuck. What year are we in?
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I think we're 2010. It's Lindsay Lohan.
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She's trying to. Rehab Lindsay Lohan.
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Yeah. Yeah, she is.
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She's in rehab while she's filming this movie.
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So she's going from rehab to the set.
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Yeah. She's trying to break free of
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her Disney persona. And she does what everyone must
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do when they're doing that. And she's playing a stripper.
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Yeah, so this just to set up the clip for you a little bit.
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Lindsay has just woken up in hospital.
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She's missing a hand and she's not sure if she's a bad girl
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stripper from the wrong side of the tracks or if she's a good
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girl, high school honor student. Let's see what happens.
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My name is Aubrey Fleming. I enjoy sunsets.
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Long walks on the beach, playing the piano.
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I have never seen the inside of a strip club or a crack house
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and I have never sold my body to hairy old men with Bo because I
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am perfect. Say hello to your new
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state-of-the-art hand. Your nerve impulses get picked
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up by sensors that control 6 different sets of gears and
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motors inside the hand, so the movements are incredibly
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lifelike and precise. So creepy.
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It's beautiful. Camp classic, everybody.
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Camp classic. I mean, what is the knock in
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this film, Crystal? I know in case you're winning,
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she will go on to fight a serial killer with that robot hand.
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Correct, and in my favorite scene, she will go to her
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mother's house that isn't her mother and deliberately fuck a
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man in the room above just to piss the mother.
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Off. Yeah, well, the mum is furiously
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cleaning. I mean, we've all been there.
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We've all. Been there, Crystal.
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So that is, I know who killed me.
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That's the kind of thing we're looking for tonight.
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Reclaimed joy, Underdog Flop. It's got it all, really.
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Yeah. And you can listen to that.
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We've got a full episode about I Know Who Killed Me if you're
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interested to hear more. Should we meet our guest
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tonight? Yes.
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Let's make some noise for our guests.
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Let's bring them up here right now.
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It's Juno, Charlie, and Travis. First up, we've got Charlie
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Craggs, activist, author, Meme Queen, dubbed by British Vogue
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as the voice of a community. Give it up for Charlie Craig
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and. She's in her juicy tonight as
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well. Oh.
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To my right is Juno Dawson, best selling author and screenwriter
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known for this book is Gay and for the work on Doctor Who, Give
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it up for Juno. In the middle we have Travis
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Alabanza. Sorry, award-winning performance
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artist, writer, and theatre maker Travis Alabanza.
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All of these people have their own Wikipedia page, so you know
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they're legit. So how are we feeling about our
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camp choices tonight, people? I'm, I'm feeling positive after
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watching that clip that mine, mine is equally as stupid, yeah.
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Perfect, Charlie. I'm feeling galvanized, focused
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and ready to take the crown. Fighting words.
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This is what we're looking for. And no pressure, do you know?
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Mine is a reach. I don't know if I I don't know
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if I entirely understood the assignment, but.
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She's happy to be here. I'm ready and I'm delighted to
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have a glass of wine on a Thursday evening.
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Well, this is the thing with all of these movies.
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I think all of them are better viewed absolutely drunk,
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everybody. So if you have a drink, cheers
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and let's get into it everybody. Right.
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That is the gay agenda. So what are we starting with
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then? Let's find out, Charlie.
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I'm ready. Let's see what movie you've
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brought. Take it away.
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Have it. When the world is in trouble,
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when our future is in danger, we call upon one man, but when he's
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busy, he calls 5 girls. Columbia Pictures presents the
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Spice Girls. All right, we're coming.
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In their film debut, Victoria, Emma, Mel B Jerry and Mel C
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Spice World. Yeah, but can they act?
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Blah blah, blah, girl power feminism.
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Do you know what I mean? See.
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Yeah, hold tight. There we go.
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Blah, blah feminism. You know what I mean?
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Strong opening choice. Choice, Charlie.
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The film that made me gay and then a drag queen and now
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trance. I'm not even exactly.
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How many films can say that? I don't know how any no, I win.
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Wow, this was so easy. We can all go home.
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Why did you bring Spice World? Well, like I said, it is
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literally the film. I would have watched it when I
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was about. I don't know how.
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I'm not very good at maths, but I would have been like young,
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like 456. And I remember saying to my mum
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not long after watching a film that I wanted to be a girl.
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It was the scene in the film. For some reason, it hit me so
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deep where they're in the boot camp.
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They were like a music boot camp.
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And Michael Barrymore's the director, and Cam.
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Yeah, Cam. And then every time I say
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something that could qualify as the camp classic, you have to
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say camp. So they're in a music camp.
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Camp, Yeah. Michael Barrymore was a
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director. And then they're all coming out
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one by hold. On Are we giving Michael
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Barrymore a camp? Yes, I see we are gay.
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Yeah, he killed someone as Camp Noah Walt anyway.
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Allegedly God. Is it 1990 God again?
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Anyway, he they come out one by one and they're like gear and
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they're like army girl camp kind of.
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But then the real camp is that then Victoria comes out last and
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she's wearing an army mini dress.
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And that was I'm not even this is not a bit for this panel that
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literally like changed my like chemicals in my brain And I was
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like, that's exactly how I feel on the inside.
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And I'm not joking about after that, I would go to bed a
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Catholic and pray that I'd wake up a girl.
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And now I do wake up a girl. Yeah.
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So just just before we go in, how much of an affiliation do we
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all have with Spice Girls in the audience?
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Do we have Spice Girl fans in the audience?
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It's not looking good rig though, is it?
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OK. I I feel like this is slander
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because of the Brooklyn Beckham drama at the moment.
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Yes. No, no.
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You need to. Get you a chance on this,
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Charlie. Period.
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Queen Victoria, she made me trans.
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I think it's clear. I sit on it and.
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What about the rest of our panel?
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How are we feeling about Spice Girls in general?
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You 2 OK. I think this isn't fair because
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I think this is already a qualified classic.
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I think Charlie's work is done. Oh.
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Whereas Travis and I accusations of cheating all work cut out.
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But you know what, Gino? Some people might say it's a bit
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of a basic choice and. I'm just saying, I'm saying.
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What's actually obvious? I'm a white girl from a council
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state where in a juicy control tracksuit I am basic.
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This is my culture, do not erase me.
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She also you've got a bit of an uphill battle with me because I
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have a feud, I mean admittedly 1 sided feud with Jerry Halliwell.
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Jerry Halliwell Horner, I think. Of her episode of Yeah.
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She fucking sent me home. Oh.
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She didn't know she. Gotten it?
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She sent something wrong home. You're a liar.
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Oh. You're right, actually.
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She listened. You said something wrong at.
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Home. Can't remember, it was so long
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ago. Something wrong?
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Something wrong? You're right, yeah, but she's.
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Something white? Yeah, sheepish.
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How do you feel about the Spice Girls?
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No, I've just been waiting to see how this plays out in
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understanding the terms and. Conditions.
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Oh my God. And I feel really competitive
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all of a sudden. That's what I just want to come
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out as competitive and I want to say I think the word camp in the
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last 10 years has been overused a lot.
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Yes, which means we now have to go post camp camp.
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I think this pre the overuse of camp would have won straight
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away, but now that queer is now cool and uncool again, we now
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need to work harder on what camp is.
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I we talk about this on the podcast all the time.
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Sometimes meta camp is something that is so good that it becomes
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bad that it becomes good again. What I will say is it's making
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the criteria for our audience a little bit more complicated, but
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we believe in all of you now. I believe you've chosen some
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clips. Yes, and let me let me just set
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up Spice World a little bit more for you.
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So Spice World came out in 1997, written by Kim Fuller, Simon
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Fuller's brother Nepo Kim, a man called Kim.
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That's camp in itself. That is Kim.
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It was a modest hit, $100 million worldwide, but it's only
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got 35% on Rotten Tomatoes. That feel that feels very
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homophobic. Yeah, yes, underdog.
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Tax, you know. Underdog flop vibes.
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Yeah, it was nominated for seven Razzies, and the Spice Girls won
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the Razzie collectively for Worst Actress.
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That is an achievement. That is an achievement.
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Last thing to say about Spice World, Roger Ebert listed it on
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as one of his most hated films of all time, calling it an
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entertainment free Dead Zone. Does anyone know who Roger Eager
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is 'cause I don't. Are you him?
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Oh, sorry, you looked right. Hand up.
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I thought it was you. I was like, Oh no.
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No, no, he he's dead. He's dead.
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Oh, he's dead. Exactly.
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Period to to support your case, Charlie, you've chosen some
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clips tonight. I actually chose different
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clips. I feel that set up that crystal.
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Didn't choose to clip, I pick, but we'll watch one of them
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anyway. Get up with the BFI.
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OK OK sorry BFI, I picked a really funny 1.
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Already. She really is competitive, jeez.
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Yeah. Let's take a look at your first
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clip or our first clip and we'll discuss further.
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OK, take it away. Right on the important never
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letting yourself be upstaged. Oh yeah, true.
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See. Your mother.
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Your mother. Hey Mama, See your big fat?
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Mother and your brother-in-law and your mad cousin.
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And your next door neighbors dogs now I kill.
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You. Boys, boys, calm down.
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Have you not heard of the word compromisation?
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We agreed on the compromise. Wow, who doesn't love a bit of
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Gary Glitter, hey? Cut from the film.
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He was meant to be in the film, but then the whole scandal
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emerged and he was cut from the film.
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I didn't poor that's a Gary Glitter song.
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I didn't. I didn't even know that.
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I didn't know that. Someone got paid to write that
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scene about men and thongs and. Kim Fuller.
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Kim Fuller. Kim Fuller.
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It's fantastic. It's fantastic.
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I mean that it really does go to the, like, gay experience of if
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someone's trying to upstage you, just make them wear something
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really ugly. Yeah.
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What do you what do you think of the clip?
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Why did you look at me when you said that?
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This is not ironic. This is just my style.
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Like I said, I didn't pick this clip.
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I picked the clip of Victoria Mount Victoria growing up to a
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boy in a coma and saying, and I'm Victoria Malcolm, like
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shouting at him as if he'd hear. But I mean, we had bulges.
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We had. I'm assuming they're probably
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all straight which actually makes it more camp.
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Like they look like homophobic hot guys.
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I think actually one of them sold a story to the newspapers
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that Emma slept with them during it.
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Oh. Yeah, and then push by.
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All of them. Posh maybe and Posh by This is
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the camp it posh by saw the guy who sold that story from the
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film in Brent Cross. The most random shopping centre.
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You mean they're not Italian? And started on him in Brent
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Cross and and and he was with his girlfriend and the
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girlfriend took victorious. It's a really good story anyway.
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That is, yeah, kind of Fair. Come.
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I mean, yeah. Yeah, that's so good.
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I think they do a good job of selling that.
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They're dancers. And then if you actually pay
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attention to them in any other part of the scene, it's Oh my
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God, those are just, those are just muscular men who, yeah,
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that's fine. All they can do fine by.
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How do we feel about Richard E Grant, who is famously a
19:52
straight man who has pocketed off of playing gay men in
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cinema? Oh.
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Really. So I'm so uncultured.
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I don't know about Gary Glitter. I don't know about.
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Richard, I don't think you need to be cultured to know about
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Gary Glitter. I think you're OK with that one.
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I think it's OK if no one knows about Gary Glitter.
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We just erase him for our history.
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But how do we feel about that Junior?
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You know how sometimes some people are so posh it sounds
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like they have it sounds like they have like a speaking
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disorder? Well, I think so.
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I'm thinking sometimes we might assume the characters he's
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playing a gay, but in fact they're just.
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Really posh. Interesting, yes.
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Well, that's the problem with this whole clip, isn't it?
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Gay or European? That's what we're experiencing
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with these Italian dancers. How do we feel about this Spice
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Girls acting talents? Who do we?
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Who are we feeling is top of the the the crop here?
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You just whispered. To me, yeah, yeah, she was in
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EastEnders. So she was an actor before?
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Did she play in EastEnders? She mugged someone.
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She she played a teenage mugger. That's very.
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Calm. 4 Spice Girls were asked wow the.
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Teenage mugger. Like giving could walk so Amy
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Lee Wood could run. Like, I was really thinking
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that. Yeah.
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Do you see what I mean? Yeah.
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Get Emma on like White Lotus right now.
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Oh, that's a buzzy casting, isn't it?
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We like that. In a weird way, like a dying
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buzz, but still a buzz. I actually feel like Jerry
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Halliwell has probably had the most successful film career out
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of the Spice Girls because she was in that racing movie.
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Wasn't she recently? I also had a a cameo insects in
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the city. I'm Sex in the City.
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Yeah. Samantha Jones.
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It's just the best. It's all you can do in this.
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Weather misted with Evian. That's going to open up a big
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question tonight, which is, can a Tori be camp?
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I actually like, and this is where it's like, is camp
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something we like or is camp its own own separate entity?
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And I'm like, I don't want a Tori to be able to be camp, but
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I do think a Tori can be camp and that's going to help my
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argument later, OK. Hang on a minute, they said.
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We've just planted a seed there. Yeah.
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I'm a. Debater this is the problem with
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having smart people on the pumpkins.
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Crystal just saying we don't normally as we said it's.
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Camp as a feeling and sometimes you are laughing with and
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sometimes you're laughing at and I think like someone like Suella
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Braverman kind of camp. OK.
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OK, moving on to our next clip. Charlie, you've got another
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clip. Did you choose this one or was
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this? I did.
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Well, I did choose this one. OK, Do you want to set up what
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happens in this clip for us? A bit was left out of the clip.
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That's really funny in that, but it helped me win.
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Where? Stop.
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Whining I So it's where at a part of the film, they meet the
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aliens. I thought this is a really
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important conversation we should be having as a society.
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But like, how? What do we say when we meet the
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aliens? So I think you should all listen
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to how it's done. But this was where Gary Litter
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was caught. He was.
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He was going to be an. Alien.
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Take it go. What do you want with that?
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What is it? Yeah.
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What I what I will say is shoulder pads very, very camp on
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the aliens. The the bit you don't see is
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that they had to describe the aliens and they were like, and
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they were green and then virtual said and wearing really cheap
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coats. I feel it's rigged.
24:31
It's rigged. You didn't put that in for a
24:33
reason. Yeah.
24:34
I do have one bit of pushback for you, you know, anti camp.
24:39
Anti camp pushback. Yeah.
24:40
Can it be camp if we're just watching a capitalist
24:44
exploitation of young girls? You know, just making some cheap
24:48
film to just make as much money as you can off a young audience?
24:52
Yes, Great. There we go.
24:55
Perfect. Yeah.
24:56
OK. Thank you for asking that
24:57
question anyway. I feel like UFOs camp.
25:01
Have we ever come across yes in our.
25:02
Existence before literally last night and anyway I don't I don't
25:07
know I did not answer that and what I was going to say is like
25:10
Jerry kissing an alien camp like that's camp that what else when
25:15
even though. The alien touched her tit.
25:16
It was giving Louis Walsh touching Mel B Yeah.
25:19
X Factor. Do you remember seeing that
25:20
trip? Yeah.
25:21
Yeah. He, like, manhandled her.
25:23
Yeah. And it was camp that she said no
25:26
consent is camp like. Is that what we've?
25:29
Got I think. I'd love to bring up the
25:31
definition. Is that the?
25:32
Same. I feel like Charlie's saying
25:34
everything is camp. And also is camp is Victoria
25:38
being fat phobic and saying Bosh, you're fat when just find
25:41
the belly? I think that's really camp as a
25:43
plus that one I can I'm plus sized.
25:45
I want to say that what else was camp?
25:48
I just thought it was really fun.
25:49
And Jerry's use of the word beast as an insult, which
25:52
preludes the use of beast on Housewives of Beverly Hills, I
25:55
think where she said be quiet, you beast, don't you come, Yeah.
26:01
How dare you? Do you know what Charlie?
26:02
You give a great argument. But that is the end of Spice
26:06
World. We are moving on to our next
26:08
film now. Everybody make some noise for
26:09
Charlie and her play. Remember everything Charlie
26:14
said. I know.
26:15
Or don't. It's probably better you don't.
26:16
Don't quote me on anything I said.
26:19
And we're moving now on to Juno. Should we take a look at your?
26:23
Choice. I'm so excited.
26:25
It is. Have you heard about this
26:27
videotape that kills you when you watch it?
26:32
You start to play it and it's like somebody's nightmare.
26:37
And as soon as it's over, your phone rings and what they say is
26:44
you will die in seven days. OK, there we go.
26:56
So a little bit of a swing in a different direction there.
27:00
Do you know you're? Going to have to come with me.
27:02
We're going to go on a journey together and you will see the
27:06
vision by the end. Well, I'm looking forward to
27:08
that. But before we get into it,
27:09
obviously a film called The Ring is going to get camp points from
27:14
the get go. It sounds like a porno.
27:16
And do you know what? I did a bit of digging everyone,
27:18
and lo and behold, there is a 2003 gay porn tribute called The
27:23
Whole. Nice.
27:24
So in keeping of that, I wanted to play a little game with
27:28
everyone called Porn or Norm. Everybody gets involved with
27:31
this. I want to know which of these
27:33
horror related titles are real porn movies.
27:36
OK, so #1A wet dream on Elm Street porn.
27:43
I'm going to say fake just to be different.
27:46
Porn. Correct, it is porn 2011.
27:51
The tagline was if you don't all wake up wet, you won't wake up
27:55
at all. OK, moving on to 28 Dicks later
28:02
porn. If it's not, I'm about to put in
28:05
the BFI funding. Didn't they just do a sequel
28:10
this year? The Bone Temple.
28:15
What are? We thinking everyone it's full
28:19
spot. Next up, Porn of the Dead.
28:27
Porn of the Dead. Porn of the Dead.
28:29
That's got to be real. I hope it's.
28:31
Real. Porn.
28:33
It's it's a real movie, guys. When they're bad, they're real.
28:37
2006 and the tagline is The dead always rises.
28:44
I love that for us. OK, moving on.
28:46
I know who railed me last summer.
28:51
No, that's my memoir. What?
28:54
Are we thinking porn? Porn.
28:58
I'll say fake to be. Different.
29:00
It's fake. Gino's right on that one.
29:01
OK, And Halloweener. Halloweener porn.
29:09
What's the audience thinking? Fake.
29:11
It is fake, but apparently it is a 1995 children's book Halloween
29:18
in all good bookstores. OK, a couple more.
29:19
Now the hills have thighs. The hills have thighs.
29:25
Damn right they do. That's true.
29:28
Made in 2010 and a favorite of mine.
29:31
Pet semen tree cemetery. No it's not real, I just thought
29:38
that was quite a funny 1. Apologies for that, but I would
29:40
imagine it. Would have been a real splash.
29:45
We've only got a couple more. I might just carry on doing this
29:47
all night. The Texas Vibrator Massacre.
29:53
Work. Han Han.
29:55
Correct, it was made in 2008. I couldn't find a tagline, but
29:59
this is a quote from one of the characters, Vanessa Dawson.
30:02
Oh God, I can practically smell the chlamydia.
30:07
We've all been there. OK, two more I spunk on your
30:11
grave. Yes, Han.
30:14
Well, it's not a film, it's just a statement.
30:18
And the final one? XXS Exorcist.
30:20
Oh. Nice, that's.
30:24
It is porn 2006 and the tagline is.
30:29
Your mother sucks cocks in hell. Well, that would be.
30:32
And she does, Yeah. When the devil is inside, the
30:36
power of Christ compels you. There we go, everybody.
30:41
There we go. OK, so there's.
30:43
Your mother sucks cocks in hell was right there.
30:46
Right. So back to business, Crystal,
30:48
tell us about the ring. Oh, yeah, OK.
30:50
The Ring, The Ring The Ring Ring was in came out in 2002,
30:53
directed by Gore Verbinski and written by Aaron Krueger.
30:58
It was a huge hit, $250 million worldwide, 17th highest grossing
31:03
movie of 2002, and it had two sequels.
31:06
And it's got a really I haven't seen.
31:09
Let's see, to be honest, the Ring 2 there's an argument that
31:12
would mean even more camp because it has Sissy SpaceX.
31:15
Oh well, yeah, that's that's a good reason.
31:17
Often the sequel is more camp, and it's got a Rotten Tomatoes
31:20
critical score of 72%, so it was very well received as well.
31:25
No pressure though. So throwing this over to you,
31:28
Juno, talk to us. So I think when you think of
31:33
queer people, what's the first thing you think they collect?
31:37
Physical media. They like vinyl.
31:42
Young young people are collecting cassettes.
31:46
Charli XCX has Brat on cassette. Samara or Sadako if you do want
31:52
to the Japanese version. Oh, we're not doing that.
31:53
We're just doing the American, just the American.
31:56
Which is very camping itself. Samara Samara, She loves the
31:59
VHS. Even though this was 2002, we
32:02
all had DVD players. So she's very trendy.
32:07
She's very trendy. She makes art house cinema.
32:12
She she wants nothing more than to be perceived.
32:18
She's and let's stick with the the art house cinema because she
32:21
she's made a lovely movie has. She, she has, I mean, and I
32:25
think we all had that phase as teenagers where we thought that,
32:30
you know, you could make a pop video and that's what Samara
32:33
does. I mean, a lot of these children,
32:35
it scares them to death. I think it's could have been a
32:39
Madonna video from the Bedtime Stories album.
32:43
I think a mid 90s Madonna album. I think you're right.
32:47
I think we should check it out. How can I be what you want it to
33:08
be? Who uses the landline?
33:43
Queer people. You can just imagine Naomi Watts
33:47
turning that off and then turning to like art schools
33:50
student child and me like. Yeah, it's really good.
33:54
I liked it. I'm nothing scarier than a woman
33:57
brushing her hair. But do you know what I mean
34:00
though? So Samara.
34:01
So what does she actually want as a writer?
34:03
What does your character want? She wants everybody to
34:06
understand that she was murdered by her adoptive parents.
34:09
Instead of making a film that says or telling doctors my
34:14
parents are abusing me, she makes that shit as a cry for
34:19
help. And I find that very calm.
34:25
I mean, I think that's a very fair argument.
34:27
Is it because as queer people we do turn to art, don't we, as a
34:31
way? That.
34:32
For podcasting. Now I'm how durationally though,
34:38
it's quite a long watch, isn't it?
34:40
Do you think that was the right move for her?
34:42
Because one thing I will say, Gino is, you know, there's a lot
34:45
of talk of her murdering people, but there's not a lot of deaths
34:47
in this movie. Could she be a little bit more
34:51
efficient? Well.
34:54
The thing is, that doesn't really make sense.
34:56
If you really think about why the people die, it kind of
35:00
doesn't make a lot of sense other than the fact that it took
35:03
the real Samara 7 days to die at the bottom of a well.
35:06
So I think actually you're slightly minimising her trauma.
35:09
Fair enough. Yeah, actually.
35:11
And actually dragging out a death is quite camping itself,
35:14
isn't it? A seven day death is better.
35:16
I mean, that little bitch will not die.
35:18
She's Madeleine McCann with black hair.
35:21
I mean, Madeleine McCann has never been proven dead, has she?
35:27
So. So it's just accurate.
35:29
She's just been there editing videos.
35:32
OK, now we've got a second clip for you because you know, we, we
35:35
just spoke about tomorrow a little bit and she's, she's got
35:37
a little bit of Kunti energy about her, hasn't she?
35:41
I find her Berry Kunti. Yes, she has been doing her
35:45
Pilates. She's been doing her reformer.
35:50
Yeah, she she has a signature walk.
35:53
Yeah, I think let's take a look at her in action.
36:21
Slay he. Was.
36:24
Hot. Yeah, he was hot.
36:26
And I feel like Charlie XCX was taking something from the mood
36:30
board there. Who said Brad Summer is over?
36:33
Now, what is it about you, about her, that appeals to you, Juno?
36:36
Do you see yourself in her? Yes, I was absolutely terrified
36:43
when this film first came out and very calm.
36:47
I did watch the Japanese original first because like
36:50
Samara, I was a teenage try hard.
36:53
I think I was 17 when the Japanese version came out.
36:58
And again, it was one of the first sort of films to really go
37:00
viral and people were downloading it off a very new
37:03
technology called the Internet and and I think yeah, there was
37:07
just something she is the moment.
37:09
And I think as well in terms of I'm actually being not taking
37:15
the piss now, there have been so many imitators.
37:20
This The Ring has spawned an entire kind of this boom in kind
37:24
of Japanese and Korean horror. There was The Grudge, this
37:27
Shutter. Who's ring hasn't?
37:29
Who's ring hasn't? And so I think, I think Samara
37:33
really, and actually this is not a joke.
37:35
Samara is iconic. Yeah.
37:38
And just throwing it to the panel in general, how do we feel
37:40
about murder and horror in the sphere of camp?
37:44
Is it camp? It's camp if it's done bad.
37:47
I think this is too good to be camp.
37:50
Oh. OK, I just think, sorry, I'm
37:54
really taking the debates so serious.
37:58
I put on makeup, so I have to turn up.
38:00
But I just think that like it's actually, for the time, was a
38:04
really good horror movie. And I would argue that it's just
38:08
like a camp classic or something that becomes a camp classic has
38:12
to at first be seen as ridiculous.
38:16
And I don't think this was seen at this was I was kind of
38:18
watching the fine art and like I've seen worse things at CSM.
38:22
We we all have. But I think, but I think what's
38:26
been interesting about a bit like The Sixth Sense as well, it
38:28
was so immediately parodied that I think people have forgotten
38:32
how scary The Ring was. And I think Scary Movie took the
38:36
piss within a year. And.
38:38
So I think it's very hard to see, although was there anybody
38:41
actually I'm interested, is there anybody who had never seen
38:43
that before? Was it scary seeing it for the
38:47
first time? You're all going to die in seven
38:50
days. I hope you actually.
38:52
You've now seen the film, so you're going to die in seven
38:55
days. I haven't seen it since it came
38:57
out and I cannot believe I found that scary.
38:59
Yeah, interesting. It looks actually so dead.
39:03
Now, when when we were talking to you all about camp, when we
39:07
were talking to all about this movie, you sent over some points
39:10
and some other points where you thought this film was camp.
39:12
There is a clip that Juno suggested that we didn't have
39:14
time to show which involved a horse and jumping over the edge
39:19
of a large boat and basically getting blended up around the
39:22
bottom of it and it's guts blowing out.
39:25
Camp, camp. But I, I think, I think being,
39:30
being a big Sissy around animals is very quick guarded.
39:36
The fact that Samara couldn't fuck with horses is giving kind
39:40
of the horses. Come on, it's a horse.
39:43
And actually I've had conversations with people, with
39:46
gay people who have said to me, I don't like horses.
39:47
They freak me out because they have big eyelashes which is like
39:53
jealous of their eyelashes. M phobia is alive and kicking.
40:00
So animal cruelty is camp. In no.
40:03
You heard it here for. Animal cruelty.
40:05
We would never be cruel tunnels but I think be pretending to be
40:08
scared of animals camp. And, and just I'm just going to
40:13
give you another little minute. Anything else you want to say on
40:15
this movie before you wrap up? Actually, I really like what
40:18
Travis said about maybe the ring actually being too legitimately
40:22
good. But how has it been rendered
40:25
camp through mockery? That's what I would.
40:27
That's what I would lead. Good point.
40:29
Good. Point.
40:30
Well, luckily. Oh, and it's a very good
40:32
Halloween costume, Cam. It makes some marrows.
40:35
Thank you. Yeah, but luckily we go from a
40:43
relatively highbrow choice to your choice.
40:46
Now, Travis, don't we? Should we take a look at the
40:48
film you've chosen tonight? Oh, hit it.
41:07
He's a cop in a class by himself.
41:13
He is fearless, unstoppable, unbeatable.
41:21
I forgot to introduce myself. My name is John Kimball and I
41:27
love my car. Yo, man, I'm just going to keep
41:30
an eye on it for you, all right? No, he's going undercover to
41:34
face his toughest adversary. Listen.
41:36
Kimball, you got to handle this like any other police situation.
41:40
They speak their own language. You walk into it showing fear.
41:45
Shit dead. They play by their own rules.
41:50
No Fear, No Fear. And they are totally ruthless.
41:59
No Fear, No Fear. That teacher.
42:10
Is. Teaching the.
42:12
Kindergarten cop, American history and practical man.
42:17
He's a cop in a class by himself.
42:26
What's the matter? I have a headache.
42:28
It might be a tumour. It's not a tumour.
42:31
It's not a tumour at. All I like to just explain why
42:37
he's doing it. That's the worst trailer over
42:40
here. Why is he doing it?
42:43
Why is he? Why is he there?
42:45
It's. Not a scared, I even felt like
42:49
the applause after that film was camper.
42:54
Travis, why did you bring kindergarten card?
42:57
Look, so who's watched the film? Yeah, OK, great.
43:00
So like the trailer doesn't do a very good job, but like, it
43:05
doesn't actually. There's a lot of lesbian arrasia
43:07
happening in the trailer. The main to the.
43:09
Film is because I think every woman character in that film is
43:13
Butch type realness, including in that film Arnold.
43:22
Here's some things, and obviously I preface this all
43:24
with a cab, a cab, a cab. But here's some things.
43:28
Here's some things that are camp about the film.
43:31
One, at this point, he's in the height of his action like movie
43:35
career. He is like seen as the toughest
43:37
person possible and he thought he could break out into comedy
43:41
#2 delusion. There are so many women in power
43:44
suits going around saying weird things to him.
43:48
Free the kids. They all have the energy of kids
43:52
that have lived like 1000 years. And when they say lines, you're
43:56
like. What the fuck, children?
43:58
The children are all so gay. Children are.
44:00
So gay. Everyone has a helmet fringe.
44:04
It doesn't matter how old they are, what gender they are,
44:06
whatever's happening, they've got a helmet fringe.
44:09
Also, the film starts in a salon.
44:12
There's something quite camp about.
44:13
Like at camp? There's.
44:16
A salon there's like this old school glamour to everything
44:19
where like everyone is both like a kindergarten, a cop, but also
44:23
like an 80s powerhouse like fashion vibe that feels already
44:26
camp Every single villain in oh, this is it.
44:29
Sorry, main reason closing statement.
44:31
The main villain you think is this like guy with the slicked
44:34
back hair who's kind of giving like Italian like any of colour
44:37
vibes like and that was like a joke on Italian people sometimes
44:41
anyway. But the actual villain is his
44:45
grandma or his mother, who's very like ageing, has a huge
44:49
quiff and a power suit and she holds a gun and she shoots and
44:52
she's mean, which I think is a staple to being a camp classic.
44:56
Yeah, we'll come back to her for sure.
44:58
Well. We've got an applause there for
44:59
this Bam bam, bam bam bam Charlie.
45:03
Do you know do you have any association with this movie?
45:05
No one comes out of a television.
45:10
No one kisses an alien, Yeah. True.
45:16
Fuck, you got me this. Movie opens, as you said, in a
45:20
salon and the villain of the piece is getting a manicure and
45:24
it's like, not even. It's not.
45:25
That's just serious. No, but it's like it's not even
45:27
done in like a no, no, no how emasculating for this man.
45:30
It's just like he's a tough guy and he's getting a manicure.
45:34
That's how the movie starts and it's it's honestly incredible.
45:37
Also, like I feel like just to go back to Arnold Schwarzenegger
45:40
being a lesbian, like I feel like he becomes more of a
45:44
lesbian throughout the film. And there's this thing where
45:46
like, of course, because it was Hollywood, he eventually gets
45:49
with the blonde woman that's really pretty.
45:51
And but in the middle of the film you wonder if he's going to
45:54
get with his cop. Like there's a bit of sexual
45:56
tension between him and his cop counterpart who is so lesbian
45:59
coded and ginger. And I think those two things
46:03
together is camp and and and and and and.
46:10
I just think you can't look at him without seeing the
46:13
Terminator. And there's something inherently
46:16
camp about the Terminator going, you know what, call up my agent.
46:19
The next movie I want to do is as a primary school teacher.
46:24
He took a big swings. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
46:26
He took a big swings he got. Pregnant.
46:27
He got pregnant. Oh, he did get.
46:29
Pregnant. What a versatile.
46:31
Action, yeah. Conan to Kindergarten Cop like
46:35
he's really done the full spectrum.
46:37
Yeah, and maybe if we loved him and celebrated more, he wouldn't
46:40
be a Republican right now. Because I was like, are we, are
46:43
we now celebrating? Oh, I was watching it well.
46:45
Here This is why I planted the seed earlier about Canatori B
46:48
camp because. Everybody was like leaning in
46:53
there. They're like.
46:54
Oh, to drop that seed. Obviously we know where he went,
46:58
but I thought the task of today was not about what's already a
47:01
camp classic, but what has been left out.
47:03
The cannon. Watching it and knowing he was
47:05
once an action superhero man and is then had a brief stint as a
47:10
Republican. Like, what was he, governor?
47:12
Governor. But in some point in time he
47:16
could have went on making bad children movies that aren't
47:19
children, movies that look lesbian.
47:24
Please see Kindergarten Cop 2 starring Dolph Lundgren.
47:27
Thank you. Is that real?
47:29
Yes, Kindergarten Cop 2 also have a sequel to have a sequel.
47:34
I love a junky sequel, but I did not know Dolph was doing that.
47:37
That is. Also, how can you jank on Jack?
47:39
You know already. It's already janky.
47:42
Now you mentioned a power granny killer moment and I think we
47:47
have a clip of it. Don't.
47:48
We we're not there yet. 1st I'm sorry.
47:52
Sorry, Crystal. No, it's fine.
47:53
But our first clip is about something I think is relatable
47:56
to the queer experience, and that is not having any fucking
47:59
idea what to do with children. Everyone's.
48:03
Now let's everybody say good morning, Mr. Kimball.
48:12
Good morning. They're all yours.
48:17
I'll be watching you. I'm very happy to be here.
48:21
Lesbian. I would like to just get to know
48:26
you. It's not a tumor.
48:43
I literally can't now. You have said that Arnie's
48:46
playing a Butch lesbian. That's that's just all I can see
48:48
now. It's fabulous.
48:49
Yeah, even the costume department, like you can just
48:52
tell there's some real Queens behind the scene, really making
48:55
those, like, everything cinched. Like every, like a primary
48:59
school teacher there has like, a cinched waist and like, some
49:01
padding. And I'm like, yeah, a drag
49:03
queen. That is not the last time we'll
49:05
see that woman in a bat wing cinched cowl neck sweater dress.
49:09
Yeah, Juno was gasping. How?
49:11
Constantly. Yeah, it was because I used to
49:13
be a primary school teacher. The idea that you would wear a
49:16
heel, Yeah. What's wrong with?
49:20
Her. Every woman in that film is
49:22
doing like crazy things and in a heel, you know?
49:25
Yeah, absolutely. Should we up the next one?
49:29
Yeah. Well, also just before we get to
49:30
that very quickly, how do we feel about children, a children
49:32
camp? Oh, it has to be always.
49:36
Is that how do we feel? Samara's a child, so yeah, camp.
49:39
OK, Yeah. I No, not inherently.
49:45
Yep. But when they say silly things
49:47
in movies, yes, you know, like I think if the kids precocious.
49:51
Like the child in Babadook camp, Very camp, very camp.
49:55
Charlie. It's a no from me dog.
50:01
Well, from one end of the spectrum to the other, to old
50:03
people now to the granny killer, yes, she's she's got a lot going
50:07
on now, hasn't she? I feel like having her as the
50:10
main villain is like inherently camp.
50:12
Now I will own up. I don't remember what clip you
50:14
did pick. I'm hoping it has the iconic
50:18
phrase, Isn't it not? We'll.
50:20
We'll see. We'll see.
50:21
We will find out. Let's meet our psycho granny.
50:26
I hate it, sorry. Where's my grandson?
50:45
Yes, I don't know. Where's my grandson go to?
50:53
Hell. You're going you.
50:58
Son of A. Bitch.
51:08
Not so tough without your car. Now I do not support gay on gay
51:19
crime but. When was the last time you saw a
51:24
movie end with an old woman getting beat up at a base on
51:28
that? Also the fact that this is like
51:30
PG rating and I like watch this when I was 7.
51:32
The tone of this. Movie is so confusing.
51:34
I've never saw it because I thought it was a kids movie and
51:37
so I watched it this week. It is not a kids.
51:40
Movie and my mum was there like thinking it was like because it
51:42
says PG or like I think it's even a you and some ratings and
51:46
my mum's like, OK, cool, you're watching a kids movie.
51:48
Put it on and I'm there. Like watching movies like
51:49
Grannies Beat each other up. Yeah, don't you see a dead body
51:53
at 1:00? Point.
51:53
Yeah, it's. Like an actual cop.
51:55
And it but it was advertised as a kids movie, which obviously I
51:58
don't think is good but is camp. Three.
52:02
That's T on a three. Corpses, yeah, 3 corpses, like a
52:06
lot of like innuendo, like yeah, there's a lot going on.
52:09
I think it's a 12 domestic. Domestic violence.
52:12
Domestic violence. There's lots of yeah, it's like
52:14
really dark. It's real life kids, OK to get
52:17
these kids up to scratch. But I think like I could be here
52:21
and make my closing argument and I've clearly taken this a bit
52:23
serious, but I would just say the gasp is all I need to say.
52:27
Like that gasp after the shot and they go.
52:30
I rest my case. What I would say though is if I
52:33
was the ginger lesbian with the baseball bat, I would have
52:35
smashed that granny in the fucking face.
52:37
You know what I mean? Not the hand you go.
52:39
Straight to the. Canonically not gay.
52:41
She has a boyfriend. Yeah.
52:43
Oh, is that? Oh God.
52:45
Yeah, the ginger lesbian is from my film.
52:47
Yeah, that was a Spice Girls joke.
52:49
Well, yeah, they got together, Mel B and Jerry.
52:52
Allegedly. Just last, last question about
52:55
Kindergarten Cup, do you think that the older woman is, is that
52:59
a wig is a piece? It's an important question
53:02
because. There's a lot of volume at the
53:04
back. When we dissect films, we often
53:06
talk about whether it's a wig, it's a hairpiece.
53:08
What do we think was going on in that scene?
53:10
Everyone. It's a lot of.
53:11
Always a wig. That's what it went.
53:13
From what I've learned in TV, it's always a wig and there's a
53:16
reason for it because then and then the hair and makeup, people
53:19
can style the hair without needing to talk to an actor,
53:23
which is usually preferable if I'm honest.
53:26
So that's why it's all it's always a wig.
53:28
Even if somebody has really boring hair, it's a wig.
53:31
As a slight side point, it always makes me angry in
53:33
musicals how they don't lose the weight, their lace pants down.
53:36
You know how it's all just like they're trunk it on and it's
53:38
just growing out there. Yeah.
53:40
Not a fan of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
53:42
Nothing to do with films, everybody, but just wanted to
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say that. No important.
53:46
So that's the end of. Our clips and I think it's time
53:51
to decide which of those 3 movies is going to be entered
53:56
into the Camp Classics Hall of Fame.
53:59
Now this is how it's going to work.
54:01
We are going to allow all of our panelists 30 seconds to fight
54:06
their case. Then afterwards, it will be down
54:08
to you, our esteemed audience, to decide which movie is clearly
54:13
beloved. So we're going to be starting
54:17
with you, Charlie. I'm ready.
54:20
In three. Some determination.
54:23
No, it needed to. Be I was waiting for.
54:25
That of course, in 321-GO. I'm going.
54:30
To take my time. So remember I told you the story
54:32
about Victoria making me trans? What number are we on now?
54:37
On 7/8 seconds. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
54:43
yes, yes, Mama. Oh, the lights are on.
54:48
Oh, my God, she's got another. What?
54:51
Fuck it. Actually.
54:52
Take as long as you want, Charlie, Go on.
54:54
I was going to say, you've got five more seconds.
54:57
Now you've got as long as she needs.
54:59
Go on. As long as she needs.
55:01
Oh, yes, baby. Yes.
55:16
I mean anything else. I mean, I don't care.
55:18
About I think that's. Pop that.
55:20
OK. That's it all.
55:22
OK, I don't know what, I don't know what you're going to do,
55:27
you know, but you've got 30 seconds going now I'm.
55:30
Going to kill you all in seven days.
55:35
I think if you really think about it, Samara is a little
55:39
queer child. She just wants to go viral.
55:42
It's called the ring, but what does it look like?
55:48
A fucking ring light. She's the world's first
55:51
influencer. Without her, where would be?
55:55
I think basically she invented the concept of going viral.
56:00
And I think nowadays that is what can be more calm than
56:05
having a viral moment, you know, without Samara.
56:08
I'm an influencer guys. That was pointed.
56:10
But without Samara, we couldn't have had Charlie Craggs.
56:13
OK, that's TI vote for. That that's the end of that
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time. Thank you.
56:16
Thank you too. Now now Travis 321-GO.
56:23
I do think taking things too seriously is a camp point
56:25
against me, but if I could win you back I would say that in my
56:29
debate one film was already too good to be camp and the other
56:34
film the people in it were already rich and like.
56:39
And halfway to Tory. Like Arnold but didn't have
56:41
something to prove. Arnold had a dream to try and
56:44
see if he could make people laugh and at the same time all
56:48
those kids looked like people we've all seen in Dalston
56:51
Superstore. 10 seconds now. Nothing was camper than that.
56:56
I'll leave you with my closing argument.
57:05
OK, we're going to pass it to the audience.
57:08
We're going to vote by applause. So get your answer ready.
57:13
It's very technical, everyone. Feels very unscientific.
57:16
Yeah, well, we're gay. And you know what?
57:22
There can only be 1 winner tonight because otherwise the
57:26
whole format of the evening would be a bit of throwaway,
57:28
wasn't it? Because still.
57:29
So we one vote only make noise for the film you think is
57:34
clearly beloved. If you think Spice World is a
57:39
camp classic, make some noise now, everybody.
57:44
I was going to say, guys, I'm looking at everyone who didn't
57:47
clap. I will never follow you back on
57:50
Instagram. None of you.
57:52
OK, and if you think the ring is a camp classic, clap your hands
57:57
now. OK, which leaves us with
58:04
Kindergarten Cop Make some noise.
58:12
Lesbians. Lesbians.
58:14
Arnold has it. Give it up for Kindergarten Cop
58:17
and Travis. Alabanza account awards winning.
58:24
Officially, I actually did bring a grand prize, but it's I forgot
58:29
it in the green room. It's it's, it's your own
58:32
personal bottle of VHS cleaner. But do you know what everybody,
58:41
Because we have such an amazing panel tonight and I think you
58:44
can all agree they have been fucking brilliant tonight.
58:47
They all go away with the bossel of poppers.
58:52
Poppers you get poppers, you get poppers and if you all look
58:56
under your. Seat.
58:57
Right in fact. We, instead of the smoke system
59:00
we have put in poppers, we're going to huff them all in and
59:04
we're all just going to rot until we go out on that.
59:06
Everybody. No, seriously, thank you so much
59:09
BFI Flair for having us tonight. It's been an amazing time.
59:12
I hope you've all had a good evening with us at Camp Class 6.
59:16
Please follow us. There's none of you know who we
59:19
are. We are camp classics.
59:20
There's lots of episodes for you to go back and listen to.
59:23
Yeah. And again, thank you so much for
59:24
the BFI for having us. Thank you, Darren.
59:26
Thank you, Aaron, and thank you to our amazing guest.
59:29
Yeah. Once again, Charlie Craig's Come
59:32
on. Travis Alabanza and Gina Dawson,
59:36
everyone. And Crystal and baby everyone.
59:41
Thank you. Play our theme song.
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Get it? Get it.
59:48
Get away from her. You.
59:50
Bitch Classic. He was in the Amazon with my mom
59:56
when she was researching spiders right before she died.
1:00:00
No. Hannah, you.
1:00:05
Thought you become a prostitute or a dog.
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Edit I used to love doggy chow. I.
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Used to love doggy chow too.