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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: The S&P 500.
- 0:01SPEAKER_00: What if 20 years isn't long enough?
- 0:04SPEAKER_00: Two people each invest $10,000 in the U.S. stock market.
- 0:08SPEAKER_00: Neither tries to time the market.
- 0:10SPEAKER_00: Neither panics and sells.
- 0:11SPEAKER_00: They simply buy, hold, and wait 10 years.
- 0:15SPEAKER_00: The first person ends up with $56,000.
- 0:18SPEAKER_00: The second?
- 0:18SPEAKER_00: Just $5,500 in purchasing power.
- 0:22SPEAKER_00: Same investment strategy.
- 0:23SPEAKER_00: Same 10-year commitment.
- 0:25SPEAKER_00: One builds a small fortune.
- 0:26SPEAKER_00: The other loses nearly half of their purchasing power.
- 0:29SPEAKER_00: What did the second investor do wrong?
- 0:31SPEAKER_00: Absolutely nothing.
- 0:33SPEAKER_00: The first person invested in 1949.
- 0:35SPEAKER_00: The second invested in 1999.
- 0:38SPEAKER_00: And that's what makes this story so interesting.
- 0:41SPEAKER_00: I came across a MarketWatch article examining nearly 100 years of U.S. stock market history.
- 0:47SPEAKER_00: And the numbers challenge one of the most popular beliefs in investing.
- 0:50SPEAKER_00: If you just hold the S&P 500 long enough, everything will work out.
- 0:54SPEAKER_00: But what exactly does long enough mean?
- 0:57SPEAKER_00: 10 years?
- 0:58SPEAKER_00: 20 years?
- 0:59SPEAKER_00: Let's look at what actually happened.
- 1:01SPEAKER_00: Someone who invested $10,000 in 1980 and stayed invested for 20 years ended up
- 1:07SPEAKER_00: with approximately $100,000.
- 1:09SPEAKER_00: That's an extraordinary result.
- 1:10SPEAKER_00: But someone who invested in 1962 and held for the same 20 years earned
- 1:13SPEAKER_00: an inflation-adjusted annual return of just 0.3%.
- 1:25SPEAKER_00: 20 years!
- 1:26SPEAKER_00: Think about everything that can happen in 20 years.
- 1:29SPEAKER_00: You change careers, your children grow up, you pay off your mortgage, maybe you even retire.
- 1:35SPEAKER_00: And after all that time, your investments have barely increased your purchasing power.
- 1:40SPEAKER_00: Now here's the question nobody can answer.
- 1:42SPEAKER_00: Are we investing in another 1,980?
- 1:46SPEAKER_00: Or another 1,962?
- 1:49SPEAKER_00: We won't know until years later.
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: And that's why historical average returns can be misleading.
- 1:54SPEAKER_00: The S&P 500 may have delivered attractive long-term average returns,
- 1:59SPEAKER_00: but no individual investor actually receives
- 2:02SPEAKER_00: the historical average every single year.
- 2:05SPEAKER_00: Your results depend heavily on when you invest, and more importantly, when you need the money.
- 2:11SPEAKER_00: Now, let's bring this into retirement.
- 2:13SPEAKER_00: Imagine two couples.
- 2:14SPEAKER_00: Both are 65 years old.
- 2:16SPEAKER_00: Both have $2 million in their 401ks.
- 2:20SPEAKER_00: Both are ready to retire.
- 2:21SPEAKER_00: The first couple plans to keep their retirement savings invested in the stock market
- 2:25SPEAKER_00: and withdraw $80,000 every year to cover living expenses.
- 2:30SPEAKER_00: They figure that if stocks deliver strong long-term returns, everything should work out.
- 2:35SPEAKER_00: The second couple also wants to stay invested in the S&P 500.
- 2:39SPEAKER_00: But before retiring, they make a different decision.
- 2:42SPEAKER_00: They calculate how much income they need for essential expenses,
- 2:45SPEAKER_00: how much Social Security will cover, and how to provide for the remaining gap.
- 2:50SPEAKER_00: They establish a reliable income foundation and keep part
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: of their portfolio invested for long-term growth.
- 2:56SPEAKER_00: Now imagine the next 10 years look something like 1999 through 2009.
- 3:03SPEAKER_00: The market struggles.
- 3:04SPEAKER_00: Returns disappoint.
- 3:06SPEAKER_00: And the first couple still needs that $80,000 every year.
- 3:10SPEAKER_00: Property taxes don't stop.
- 3:11SPEAKER_00: Medicare premiums don't stop.
- 3:13SPEAKER_00: Groceries, utilities, home repairs.
- 3:17SPEAKER_00: None of those expenses care what the S&P 500 is doing.
- 3:20SPEAKER_00: Over 10 years, that's $800,000 in withdrawals before adjusting for inflation.
- 3:26SPEAKER_00: And if the market is down, they may have to sell more shares to raise the same amount of cash.
- 3:32SPEAKER_00: Those shares are gone.
- 3:33SPEAKER_00: Even if the market eventually recovers, the shares they sold won't participate in that recovery.
- 3:39SPEAKER_00: This is called sequence of returns risk.
- 3:42SPEAKER_00: And it's one of the biggest differences between investing for retirement
- 3:45SPEAKER_00: and investing during retirement.
- 3:47SPEAKER_00: What about the second couple?
- 3:49SPEAKER_00: If their essential expenses are already covered by reliable income sources,
- 3:53SPEAKER_00: they may have more flexibility to leave their stock investments alone during
- 3:57SPEAKER_00: a difficult market.
- 3:58SPEAKER_00: They can still experience losses.
- 4:00SPEAKER_00: Their overall financial situation may still be affected.
- 4:04SPEAKER_00: But they're less dependent on selling stocks at exactly the wrong time.
- 4:08SPEAKER_00: Here's the interesting part.
- 4:09SPEAKER_00: Both couples might own the exact same S&P 500 index fund.
- 4:14SPEAKER_00: The difference isn't which stocks they picked.
- 4:16SPEAKER_00: It's how much of their retirement lifestyle And that brings us to a very important distinction.
- 4:24SPEAKER_00: Investing for growth and creating retirement income are two different jobs.
- 4:28SPEAKER_00: The S&P 500 can be an excellent tool for long-term growth.
- 4:32SPEAKER_00: But long-term average returns are not a retirement paycheck.
- 4:36SPEAKER_00: So before you retire, try this simple exercise.
- 4:40SPEAKER_00: Imagine the S&P 500 delivers almost no inflation adjusted growth
- 4:44SPEAKER_00: over your first 10 years of retirement.
- 4:46SPEAKER_00: Not necessarily a crash every year,
- 4:49SPEAKER_00: Just a disappointing decade where your purchasing power barely grows.
- 4:53SPEAKER_00: Could your Social Security
- 4:54SPEAKER_00: and other reliable income sources cover your essential living expenses?
- 4:58SPEAKER_00: If not, how large is the gap?
- 5:01SPEAKER_00: And where would the money come from?
- 5:03SPEAKER_00: Cash reserves?
- 5:04SPEAKER_00: Bonds?
- 5:04SPEAKER_00: A pension?
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: Guaranteed lifetime income?
- 5:07SPEAKER_00: Some combination?
- 5:09SPEAKER_00: The point isn't to eliminate stock market risk.
- 5:11SPEAKER_00: It's to make sure you don't have to depend on favorable stock market returns just
- 5:16SPEAKER_00: to pay your bills.
- 5:17SPEAKER_00: Because you could have $2 million or even $3 million in your 401k and still have
- 5:23SPEAKER_00: an important retirement planning problem to solve.
- 5:26SPEAKER_00: The S&P 500 has helped millions of Americans build wealth.
- 5:30SPEAKER_00: But building wealth and turning wealth into reliable retirement income are not the same thing.
- 5:35SPEAKER_00: So here's the question I'd leave you with.
- 5:37SPEAKER_00: If you were retiring today with $2 million in your 401k and you knew
- 5:42SPEAKER_00: the stock market might deliver almost no real growth for the next 10 years,
- 5:47SPEAKER_00: would you still feel comfortable relying on that portfolio
- 5:50SPEAKER_00: for all your retirement income?