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- Lucas: So in September 2022, Yvon Chouinard did something that made every corporate lawyer I know drop their coffee. He gave the company away. Not sold it to a competitor, not taken it public — just transferred ownership of Patagonia to a trust and a nonprofit. Luna: And he did it while the company was worth about three billion dollars. That's not a small act of generosity. Lucas: Right. The structure is fascinating. Chouinard and his family transferred 100 percent of the voting stock — that's the control — to a trust called the Patagonia Purpose Trust. And the 100 percent of non-voting shares — that's the economic value — went to a 501 nonprofit called the Holdfast Collective. Luna: So the family kept control but gave away the money. That's a very specific kind of sacrifice. Lucas: Exactly. And the board was central to making this work. Patagonia's board has always been unusual. It's not a typical public company board full of retired CEOs and finance people. It includes environmental activists, longtime employees, and family members who are deeply aligned with the mission. Luna: Can you name some of the key players on that board at the time? Lucas: Sure. You had Rose Marcario, who was CEO from 2014 to 2020 and is a fierce advocate for mission-driven business. You had Kristine McDivitt Tompkins — she's the former CEO of Patagonia and later became a renowned conservationist who helped create massive national parks in Chile and Argentina. And of course Yvon Chouinard and his wife Malinda, and their son Fletcher. Luna: That's a board built around a shared worldview, not around maximizing shareholder value in the traditional sense. Lucas: Exactly. And that shared worldview is what made the transfer possible. If Patagonia had a typical board with fiduciary duties to maximize shareholder returns, Chouinard could never have done this. The board would have said, 'You can't just give away three billion dollars of value.' But Patagonia's board had a different fiduciary duty — to the mission. Luna: Patagonia was already a benefit corporation by then, right? That gave them legal cover. Lucas: Yes. In 2012, Patagonia became one of the first California benefit corporations. That means the board is legally allowed — in fact, required — to consider stakeholders beyond shareholders. So the transfer was consistent with their legal structure. The board didn't have to fight against their own charter. Luna: I want to get into the mechanics. How does the board oversee a company that literally cannot be sold? What's their role now? Lucas: Great question. The Patagonia Purpose Trust holds all the voting shares, and its trustees are the Chouinard family and a few close advisors. They appoint the board. The board then oversees management, but with one crucial constraint: no one can ever sell the company for personal gain. The economic value flows to the Holdfast Collective, which uses it for climate activism. Luna: So the board's job is to ensure the company stays profitable enough to generate that dividend for the nonprofit, but not so profit-obsessed that it compromises the mission. Lucas: Exactly. And that's a delicate balance. Patagonia has been profitable for decades, but they've also made decisions that hurt short-term profit — like telling customers not to buy their jackets during Black Friday in 2011, or suing the Trump administration over national monument reductions. The board has to support those decisions. Luna: How does the board evaluate capital allocation when profit isn't the primary metric? Lucas: That's the hard part. Normally a board looks at return on invested capital, earnings per share, those sorts of things. Patagonia's board looks at environmental impact first. For example, they've invested heavily in regenerative organic agriculture for their cotton supply chain. That's more expensive than conventional cotton, but it's better for the soil and the climate. The board has to sign off on that knowing it will compress margins. Luna: And there's no shareholder pressure to change course because there are no outside shareholders. Lucas: Right. The only 'shareholders' here are the Holdfast Collective, and their interest is in maximizing the climate impact of the dividend. So if Patagonia makes more profit, more money goes to climate activism. But if they make slightly less profit but have a bigger direct impact through their supply chain, that's also good. The board has to weigh those two things. Luna: I wonder if this structure could scale. Could a company like Nike or Apple do something similar? Lucas: In theory, any private company could. But the founder has to be willing to give up billions of dollars. Most founders aren't. And even if they were, the board would need to be completely aligned. Patagonia's board had decades of trust and shared values. That's rare. Luna: There's also the question of governance if the trust and the nonprofit ever disagree. What happens then? Lucas: That's a real tension. The trust controls the company. The nonprofit receives the money. If the nonprofit wants the company to maximize profit to get a bigger dividend, but the trust wants the company to invest in mission-driven initiatives that reduce profit, you could have a conflict. The board sits in the middle. Luna: And the board members are appointed by the trust, so they're not exactly independent. Lucas: That's the weakness. There's no real check on the trust's power. The board could, in theory, be stacked with people who prioritize dividends over mission. But so far, the Chouinard family has chosen trustees who are deeply committed to the mission. The question is what happens in the next generation. Luna: I think that's the real test. Patagonia's structure is elegant, but it depends on the integrity of the people running it. That's true of any governance system. Lucas: Yeah, and it's worth noting that Patagonia's board has had its share of tough decisions. When Rose Marcario left as CEO in 2020, the board had to find a successor who could maintain the culture. They promoted from within — Ryan Gellert, who had been leading Patagonia's Europe operations. That continuity matters. Luna: And they've also had to navigate the tension between growth and mission. Patagonia has grown significantly over the past decade, but they've deliberately avoided going public or taking outside investment. The board has to constantly ask: how big is too big? Lucas: Exactly. And that brings us to the donation segment — only because I think it's relevant. If you found this conversation useful, the way shows like this stay ad-free is through listener support. You can find us at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. It's a small way to keep these boardroom conversations going. Luna: It really does make a difference. And we appreciate it. Lucas: Alright, back to Patagonia. One of the most interesting board dynamics I've seen is how they handled the decision to stop selling to corporate clients that didn't align with their values. That's a direct hit to revenue. The board had to be fully on board. Luna: What kind of clients did they cut off? Lucas: Companies in the oil and gas industry, for one. Also some large financial firms that funded fossil fuel projects. That's millions of dollars in corporate apparel sales. The board had to weigh the financial loss against the brand integrity. They chose brand integrity. Luna: And the board's composition made that easier because they had people like Kristine McDivitt Tompkins, who spent decades protecting wilderness. She's not going to say, 'Let's keep selling to Exxon because the margin is good.' Lucas: Right. And that's the core insight. Patagonia's board is not a collection of generic directors. It's a group of people who were chosen specifically because they share a worldview. That makes decision-making faster and more consistent, but it also creates groupthink risk. Luna: How do they guard against groupthink? Lucas: They bring in outside voices occasionally. For example, they've had advisors from the academic world and from other mission-driven companies. But the board itself is small and insular. Yvon Chouinard has said he doesn't want a bunch of lawyers and bankers on the board. So the risk is real. Luna: I want to ask about the Holdfast Collective. How does the board interact with that organization? Lucas: The board doesn't directly manage the Holdfast Collective. The nonprofit has its own board and leadership. But Patagonia's board is responsible for ensuring the company generates the profit that flows to the Collective. So there's a sort of arms-length relationship. The Collective's board includes some of the same people — like Kristine McDivitt Tompkins — so there's overlap. Luna: So it's not truly independent, but it's structured enough to avoid obvious conflicts. Lucas: Exactly. And the Collective has already put that money to work. Since the transfer, they've granted over a hundred million dollars to climate organizations. That's a direct result of the board's oversight of Patagonia's profitability. Luna: I think the biggest lesson from Patagonia's board is that governance is not just about rules — it's about people. You can have the best structure in the world, but if you don't have the right people, it won't work. Lucas: Absolutely. And Patagonia's board is a case study in how to align governance with purpose. They've shown that a board can be a force for more than just profit maximization. The question is whether other companies will follow. Luna: Do you see any signs of that happening? Lucas: A few. Some family-owned companies are looking at the Patagonia model. And the benefit corporation structure is becoming more common. But the most important ingredient — a founder willing to give up billions — is extremely rare. Chouinard is one of a kind. Luna: One of a kind, and one of the few who actually put the planet ahead of his own wealth. That's a boardroom story worth remembering. Lucas: It really is. And it sets a benchmark for what governance can be when the mission is the only shareholder.