Latest / The Real Estate Agent Playbook / Top Producing Agent Conundrum: Why I Didn't Become a Team Lead or Broker
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- 0:00Congratulations.
- 0:00You made it.
- 0:01You're a top producing agent.
- 0:02Now the questions are rolling in.
- 0:04When are you going to start a team?
- 0:05When are you going to start your own brokerage?
- 0:07Today, I'm going to talk about my experience with those questions, what
- 0:10I did to flip the script and how we can help you make the right decision
- 0:16for you and only you stay tuned.
- 0:23What's playbook.
- 0:26This one is going to be great because I truly had spot in my heart where I
- 0:33knew I could not possibly be a team lead because I didn't want to start
- 0:38taking advantage of other people's time while suppressing their careers.
- 0:42And as a managing broker, I felt like it was just too much.
- 0:45I was, it would have been more in the logistics and all of that.
- 0:49So I'm going to talk about everything that I went through and hopefully
- 0:52give you some key insights to help you make that decision and take
- 0:55the next step in your career, even if it is to go down that road.
- 0:59If you like what you hear, please throw a comment.
- 1:01If you're going through something and I say something that, you know,
- 1:05gets your, your mind thinking, definitely write a comment.
- 1:09I would love to start the conversation with you.
- 1:11But as for now, like, comment, subscribe, and let's get into it.
- 1:14Okay, so the traditional top producer real estate path, the KW way, kind of,
- 1:20you know, become a top producer, figure it out, and then start to grow a team.
- 1:25Right.
- 1:25And so that's, that's definitely the way of the bigger brokerage started
- 1:30team within the, within the model, you don't have a ton of, you know, the
- 1:35managerial broker responsibilities, however, you do have the ability
- 1:39to leverage other people's time.
- 1:41You can get some of your time back, maybe do some of the top income producing
- 1:46activities while, you know, some of your newer agents or, you know, staff members
- 1:51or whatever are helping with some of the lead generation and marketing stuff.
- 1:54Essentially, you know, Brian Buffini always says you're wearing
- 1:57four hats as a, as a business owner and a real estate agent.
- 2:00This is allowing Some other people that wear some of those hats where
- 2:04maybe you're lacking certainly team.
- 2:07It's great, right?
- 2:08But the problem is when you're starting a team You're kind of in that coach or
- 2:13managerial role verse being one of the team players And so a lot of times, you
- 2:18know, it works out and it's great and you have these buyers agents But the buyers
- 2:22agents typically, you know come and go right people understand that they are
- 2:26focused on building your team's brand verse building their own And once you get
- 2:30into it and you get a hold of it and maybe a few deals under your belt, absolutely,
- 2:34there's a reason, you know, that a lot of new agents love to go to a team or
- 2:38feel like they're pushed to go to a team.
- 2:40However, the longevity of this and the constant turnover and things that come up
- 2:46is absolutely something that team leads alike constantly are battling, right?
- 2:51And we've, we've gone to this point where, you know, kind of the status quo is.
- 2:56You know, I'm going to join a team.
- 2:57I'm going to get some leads.
- 2:58I'm going to pay a bigger split here.
- 3:00Sometimes they pay a bigger split on their personal deals.
- 3:02And that was, that was my thing.
- 3:04I couldn't possibly, you know, take a step back and allow other
- 3:10people to do my job, take half of their commission for doing what.
- 3:15Ultimately was my job as a real estate agent and then you know continue to
- 3:19do this and do this certainly if i'm providing them A lead and doing a lot
- 3:23of lead gen and all of that and we're actually doing 50 50 of the work Okay,
- 3:27I get it but if i'm simply providing the lead source and they have to call
- 3:31and they have to you know, Qualify the lead and get them into get them
- 3:35in the car as we like to say and and show them houses and then Negotiate
- 3:39the contract and then you know, where do I come in as the team lead, right?
- 3:43And if this is my team's brand and I don't have a stamp on it.
- 3:46It just wasn't my of how I wanted to do it.
- 3:50And I always tell people that, you know, if I had a team and I was growing
- 3:54the team and to be successful and to make the money and leverage and, and
- 3:58make up for all those leads, and I'm cutting in half essentially out of my
- 4:01commission, then, you know, essentially you have to leverage these people and
- 4:05you have to be like, okay, yeah, you're on a 50 50 split, you know, whatever.
- 4:09Maybe it's bigger with, with the leads I provide, but then that
- 4:12just doesn't make sense, right?
- 4:14I am.
- 4:15In my opinion, limiting those agents ability to grow their business if I'm
- 4:19taking 50 percent of their commission on their self generated leads.
- 4:23And so, I know there's other models and there's other ways to do it, however,
- 4:27I just didn't feel that that was right.
- 4:30Leveraging other people in order to have a better personal life
- 4:33was not my idea of fun, right?
- 4:36So then, you know, the managing broker role, as you guys know, When I did make
- 4:40the move to my current brokerage, I, I was the next broker in standing, right?
- 4:44I was going to be a manager of, you know, one of the biggest
- 4:47transaction shops in Denver.
- 4:49And I had, we had talked about that and that was kind of up in the air.
- 4:52And you know, my dad was the managing broker and when he retired, I was
- 4:56going to kind of step into that role.
- 4:57However, before that happened, I stepped back and I looked,
- 5:00okay, what is my dad doing?
- 5:03Right?
- 5:03He's in charge of agent hotline.
- 5:05He handles all the litigation.
- 5:07And he's in that office 40 hours a week, right?
- 5:10And I knew his salary, we don't need to talk about what it was, but it
- 5:14was going to be a serious, time commitment for not the salary
- 5:19that would replace my time, right?
- 5:21If I had to stop being out there serving clients and doing all the things so I
- 5:26could be in an office to make a salary, then first of all that would take more
- 5:30time away from my family, doing things that I actually didn't really want to do.
- 5:34Just to say I, I made it, right?
- 5:37And then, having to still go out beyond that time.
- 5:42Obviously, there's a lot of office time.
- 5:43But beyond that office time to go out and show properties and so on.
- 5:47And so it didn't make sense financially for me to step into that role.
- 5:50And then obviously, starting up your own brokerage shop certainly sounds great.
- 5:55No bosses, no, nobody telling you what to do.
- 5:58However, there's also no resources.
- 6:00Right?
- 6:00So you have to build the resources and you have to build a, you know, product that
- 6:06someone is willing to, you know, come in and buy into and say, Hey, certainly you
- 6:10can have, you know, some of my commission or you can have my monthly transaction
- 6:14fee or whatever that looks like.
- 6:15And so it was either start from the ground.
- 6:18Okay.
- 6:18Take an opportunity here.
- 6:20And actually I did have an opportunity to make well over six figures at
- 6:23another brokerage, another pretty popular brokerage as a managing broker.
- 6:28And it just didn't seem like I was going to be doing the
- 6:31things that I wanted to do.
- 6:33Not to mention my gross commission was literally at 500, 000 a year.
- 6:38And the six figure salary, even at the, you know, better offer,
- 6:42was not going to replace that.
- 6:44However, it was going to take some of my time away from that, you know, pretty,
- 6:48pretty nice gross commission earnings.
- 6:51So, I made the decision that none of that was for me.
- 6:55Right.
- 6:55So then I continued to focus and certainly I can leverage, you know, a TC and some
- 7:00certain, certain pieces of the pie, you know, videographer, photographer, sign
- 7:05company, sign installer, lockbox holder.
- 7:08Like they all do that stuff, professional photography.
- 7:11So.
- 7:12I had all of that in place.
- 7:13So I do have a team.
- 7:14It's just not a team of agents, right?
- 7:16So i'm in the mix doing the income producing activities, which I still
- 7:21am today But the secret was I actually like that stuff And certainly one day
- 7:27as I build my organization, I will step back from that But there was another
- 7:32opportunity there Okay, so let's look at the difference between broker and team
- 7:36lead kind of as we go as I mentioned right we have To start from the ground up
- 7:42or plug into this system where there was requirements my time to be the broker side
- 7:46A team lead now requires, I mean, for the most part, there's no sense in having a
- 7:51team if you're not going to provide leads and help them be busy because there's
- 7:55only so much training and stuff we can do before you have to get out in the field.
- 7:58Right?
- 7:59And certainly if I'm training someone to get out in the field and manage
- 8:02their sphere and do all of the things and they're self generating
- 8:06leads, well, You know, ultimately that that's not really a team.
- 8:10That's more of a broker setup, right?
- 8:11And so as we kind of look at the difference team leads, we need to
- 8:15create a lead generation source, right?
- 8:18That's kind of outside of what I already do naturally especially because
- 8:21I'm so focused on sphere of influence So when people, you know raise their
- 8:24hand and they say hey, I want to buy or sell they want me Which is okay.
- 8:28Like, I understand that I could leverage my time a little better.
- 8:31However, that's that side.
- 8:33And the broker side, creating something completely from scratch, taking on all
- 8:38of the overhead, you know, the brick and mortar, and the office, and the
- 8:41technology, and all the things that I would need to offer my agents in order
- 8:45for them to be successful on top of teaching them how to be a And so that's
- 8:50the kind of difference in today's day and age of the team and the broker.
- 8:54And I didn't want either.
- 8:55So what's my story, right?
- 8:57I stepped back, I looked at my offers and I said, okay, well, I'm going to
- 9:01go be a top producing agent at one of the fastest growing brokerages in the
- 9:05history of real estate, EXP and I'm going to be able to do all of the things
- 9:10that I want to do as a leader, right?
- 9:13I can have courses, I can, you know, sponsor agents into my downline.
- 9:17I can get a residual income from them and It's not their money, right?
- 9:23They're on a split.
- 9:24They pay the brokerage 80 20 of Of EXPs, 20 percent that they take on a,
- 9:29you know, say a 10, 000 commission.
- 9:31Agent that sells gets 8, 000.
- 9:34EXP gets 2, 000.
- 9:35Of EXPs money, I get a little bit of piece of that pie.
- 9:38As a sponsor, you know, to the agent that closed the deal.
- 9:42Or, you know, in my seven tiers of downline.
- 9:45And so, this was the perfect scenario.
- 9:47Because I didn't have the liability of a broker.
- 9:49I didn't have the overhead cost of a broker.
- 9:51I didn't feel like I was You know them by taking their commission 50 percent
- 9:57of the brokers commission And I just felt like it was a perfect fit for me.
- 10:01Certainly.
- 10:02It's a smaller piece of the pie however if I can grow and then that agent can
- 10:07grow and so on the small piece of the pie really adds up pretty quickly and
- 10:11So that's where I had the light bulb moment I can still produce, I can still
- 10:16help people in my, my sphere, and all of those people, 40, 50, 60 hours a
- 10:20week, whatever I want to work there.
- 10:22And I can also be a part of these agents, and I can coach, and I can mentor, and
- 10:26I can do the piece that I love without having all these other expectations.
- 10:30Team lead, providing leads, you know, putting them out on buyer consultations,
- 10:35you know, procuring the buyer so that they can show them properties, or Broker
- 10:40dealing with all the back end stuff, all the compliance issues, all of the,
- 10:44you know, commission updates, and the certified education credits that we
- 10:49need, and all of that stuff that the broker, I can set that aside, right?
- 10:53And so, not to mention my liability as a leader definitely goes down because
- 10:58we still have managing brokers, we still have compliance officers, we still have
- 11:02people that are reviewing the files.
- 11:04And so I'm able to do everything that I want to do without having to do
- 11:11everything right and do everything in the team lane, do everything in the broker.
- 11:15So that was my decision and I'm two and a half years in,
- 11:18and I can't say that I'm upset.
- 11:21There's so much provided both by my brokerage and the organization.
- 11:25I'm a part of.
- 11:26That allows me to not be the one person that's in charge of
- 11:30doing all the things, right?
- 11:31We have six seven tiers of value for people So if someone is really struggling
- 11:37with their organization and time management systems processes, that's not
- 11:40me But my sponsor does offer that or you know branding social media marketing.
- 11:45I'm okay at it, but I'm not great Mike Sherrard's the
- 11:47greatest in the world, right?
- 11:48and so if I can start plugging these people in and build my coaching
- 11:53platform based on this other value It's the best of both worlds.
- 11:57And I'm not leveraging other people's time and feeling like, you know,
- 12:00the person at the top that's just sitting around going to, you know, the
- 12:03bar on a Saturday and making money.
- 12:06So I hope that helps you understand the decision and
- 12:10understand that there's options.
- 12:12And if you love being an agent, you love being in the transaction.
- 12:16I challenge you not to just push that all aside.
- 12:19Unless you're ready for that.
- 12:21And unless you're, you know, in that team situation where you have
- 12:24a great lead generation source that you can, you know, scale, right?
- 12:29Because that's what teams do.
- 12:31Or you're that broker and you love the managerial role you love.
- 12:35You know, the compliance and the holding files and, you know, dealing
- 12:39with, you know, issues that might go to litigation and all of that.
- 12:42If you love that, certainly managing brokers as an option for you.
- 12:46However, I know that a rev share model at the XP especially was my number
- 12:51one choice, and it absolutely has been game changing for my career, creating
- 12:58a sustainable residual passive income.
- 13:01And I am so excited that I made that decision.
- 13:03So if I can help you, if you want to sit down and talk about it, I
- 13:06promise I'm not going to say, Hey, this is absolutely the answer.
- 13:09I would love to hear your pros and cons and listen from a top
- 13:13producing agents perspective.
- 13:14I know what you're going through.
- 13:16If you are interested in learning more, there's a game plan call link below,
- 13:20and I would love to help you out.
- 13:22We'll see you on the next one.