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- 0:15SPEAKER_00: Hello,
- 0:15SPEAKER_00: everybody,
- 0:16SPEAKER_00: and welcome to Dishing with Stephanie's Dish,
- 0:18the podcast where we talk to people equally obsessed in the
- 0:21food spaces as we are.
- 0:22SPEAKER_00: And today I'm with the food dolls.
- 0:24SPEAKER_00: I'm with Radwa and Alia Alkafas.
- 0:27SPEAKER_00: And we had an opportunity to...
- 0:30record a taste buds episode with them that will air at the end
- 0:35of February.
- 0:36I think it's going to be February 22nd,
- 0:38right on the eve of your book being available at stores.
- 0:42SPEAKER_00: Uh, well, we go live on the 25th.
- 0:46SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 0:47SPEAKER_00: So you can pre-order though, your book pretty delicious right now.
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: And if we talk about cookbooks in particular, the pre-order is like,
- 0:58It's crazy because what people don't know is all those
- 1:03pre-orders that you say you
- 1:06SPEAKER_00: want this book,
- 1:07SPEAKER_00: they count towards day one sales.
- 1:11SPEAKER_00: And for people like Food Dolls who have such a massive following,
- 1:16it could be the day that launches them potentially to the top
- 1:20of the New York Times
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: cookbook list.
- 1:23SPEAKER_00: So pre-orders for cookbook authors are super important.
- 1:27SPEAKER_00: So we want you to get your books when they come out live.
- 1:30But we also want you to pre-order because all of that stacked
- 1:34up on that first day
- 1:36SPEAKER_00: counts to get them.
- 1:37We are trying to get them on the New York Times bestseller list
- 1:40with their book.
- 1:40SPEAKER_00: Would you like that, girls?
- 1:41SPEAKER_00: That would be just a dream.
- 1:43SPEAKER_00: I know it would.
- 1:45When we spent time together in your home and watching you guys
- 1:50make your magic,
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: when I left,
- 1:52SPEAKER_00: one of the things that I asked,
- 1:53SPEAKER_00: I'm like,
- 1:54SPEAKER_00: so,
- 1:54SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 1:55SPEAKER_00: what are your intentions?
- 1:56And you were like,
- 1:57we want to get our book on the New York Times bestseller list.
- 1:59And I think,
- 2:00I really think you can do it because you guys have such a huge following.
- 2:03SPEAKER_00: The book is so great.
- 2:04SPEAKER_00: It's pretty delicious.
- 2:06SPEAKER_00: Can we just back up?
- 2:08Like you guys said,
- 2:08you've been doing this pretty much since pre-pandemic,
- 2:12but
- 2:13SPEAKER_00: I feel like, you know, you've amassed such a huge following.
- 2:16SPEAKER_00: Like, how did it get started?
- 2:18SPEAKER_03: Well, first of all, thank you so much for having us on.
- 2:22SPEAKER_03: And it was so fun cooking with you last week.
- 2:26SPEAKER_03: I well,
- 2:26SPEAKER_03: we definitely started around nine years ago now,
- 2:29SPEAKER_03: which is so crazy to think that it's been that long.
- 2:32I think when we first started,
- 2:33we didn't really have like the best direction of what exactly.
- 2:37SPEAKER_03: No one did.
- 2:38SPEAKER_03: And we were trying to figure out social media.
- 2:41SPEAKER_03: Both of our backgrounds were not chefs.
- 2:43SPEAKER_03: We have no we have no photography background, no videography background.
- 2:47SPEAKER_03: We had nothing.
- 2:49But we just knew that we love to cook and we wanted to share
- 2:52with the world how
- 2:54SPEAKER_03: easy and delicious you can make recipes.
- 2:56SPEAKER_03: And I think that's been it since day one.
- 2:59Our shift kind of changed a few years later on really kind of
- 3:04honing in on like our
- 3:05SPEAKER_03: culture and our background and what we grew up eating.
- 3:08SPEAKER_03: And people loved it.
- 3:10SPEAKER_03: People loved it.
- 3:11SPEAKER_03: And they love our like sister vibe.
- 3:12SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you two are real life sisters.
- 3:15SPEAKER_00: And are you four years apart?
- 3:17SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 3:19SPEAKER_00: And your background is your parents are from Egypt.
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: So you're leaning into that sort of cultural vibe.
- 3:29SPEAKER_00: And what maybe a lot of people don't know,
- 3:32SPEAKER_00: and I know a tiny,
- 3:33SPEAKER_00: tiny bit,
- 3:34SPEAKER_00: but that Egypt is a very modern place,
- 3:38SPEAKER_00: all told.
- 3:38SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 3:40Can you just give us a little bit of why it's a touchstone for
- 3:44you to still be
- 3:45speaking about this food that you guys have lived here most of
- 3:49your lives,
- 3:50SPEAKER_00: but you still feel like this is such an influence for you?
- 3:53SPEAKER_02: So our parents were, they immigrated here in the early 80s.
- 3:58SPEAKER_02: And so we were both born and raised here.
- 4:00SPEAKER_02: But
- 4:00SPEAKER_02: They really tried very hard to keep our Egyptian background alive.
- 4:05SPEAKER_02: So whether it was with food, with cultures, traditions.
- 4:09SPEAKER_02: So basically, we're very Egyptian and Midwestern at the same time.
- 4:15SPEAKER_02: So you even see a lot of our recipes.
- 4:17We do fusions between Egyptian and Mediterranean,
- 4:20Middle Eastern food with our Minnesota side.
- 4:24It's funny that you mentioned that today because prior to
- 4:27talking with you,
- 4:28the way that Taste Buds works usually is we go out and we have
- 4:33an adventure somewhere.
- 4:34SPEAKER_00: And in this episode, that adventure was with you guys in your home.
- 4:38And then we take what we learned from that adventure and we
- 4:41come back into my kitchen.
- 4:43SPEAKER_00: And so one of the things that I made was your, what was it?
- 4:52SPEAKER_00: And it had cinnamon in it.
- 4:53SPEAKER_00: It was super delicious.
- 4:55SPEAKER_00: The recipe worked beautifully.
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: And everybody loved it.
- 4:58SPEAKER_00: But what was funny was when we were making it,
- 5:01SPEAKER_00: my cameraman said,
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: oh,
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: it's just like a casserole or a hot dish.
- 5:05SPEAKER_00: And so I laughed.
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: I was like, yes, this is like the Egyptian hot dish.
- 5:09SPEAKER_00: That's exactly the mashup.
- 5:11SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 5:12SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 5:12SPEAKER_02: And that's what we always say.
- 5:13SPEAKER_02: It's like an Egyptian hamburger helper, you know, casserole.
- 5:18SPEAKER_02: So it's, it's, yeah, it's really good.
- 5:20SPEAKER_00: Even down to like,
- 5:21SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you guys ever have had rice-a-roni,
- 5:23but it was like a combination between rice and pasta and you
- 5:28sauteed it just like
- 5:30SPEAKER_00: you did with the orzo to get the color on the pasta.
- 5:33SPEAKER_00: So it was just really, it was a delicious recipe.
- 5:37SPEAKER_00: The other thing that we did that will surprise you maybe is
- 5:41I was trying to think about how to take what I learned from you
- 5:44and your book and
- 5:45SPEAKER_00: the way you cook and make that kind of my own too,
- 5:48SPEAKER_00: because I think that's so much of what you inspire people to do.
- 5:52So I took the marinated tomato and creamy whipped feta dip that
- 5:57we made on the show with you.
- 5:59And I took all those same ingredients literally to the letter,
- 6:03but we made a pasta bake with it.
- 6:07SPEAKER_03: Oh, that sounds delicious.
- 6:09SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so you'll see that on the episode.
- 6:13We made it and we made it into like a pasta bake because when I
- 6:18was looking at the
- 6:19SPEAKER_00: recipe that you guys made when we were in your kitchen,
- 6:22SPEAKER_00: I was like,
- 6:22SPEAKER_00: oh,
- 6:23SPEAKER_00: this is kind of like that feta where the roasted tomatoes.
- 6:26And so that's the surprise for you that you'll see that we just
- 6:31took your dish and
- 6:32SPEAKER_00: all the ingredients.
- 6:33SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 6:34SPEAKER_00: It was very fun to,
- 6:36SPEAKER_00: and it was interesting too,
- 6:37SPEAKER_00: because Michelle,
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: my producer,
- 6:39SPEAKER_00: she was like,
- 6:41SPEAKER_00: because she loved your dip so much.
- 6:42SPEAKER_00: And then she was like,
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: and it's so weird that this is the exact same ingredients,
- 6:46SPEAKER_00: but the flavor profile is so different.
- 6:48SPEAKER_00: It changes everything.
- 6:49SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 6:49SPEAKER_00: And maybe just the roasting of the tomatoes too,
- 6:52SPEAKER_00: and the heat and the pasta,
- 6:54SPEAKER_00: because that was the one thing we did add,
- 6:56SPEAKER_00: but it was really fun to think about how to take a recipe from your book,
- 7:01SPEAKER_00: but kind of like just twist it with all the same stuff.
- 7:04SPEAKER_00: It was fun.
- 7:05SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 7:05SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
- 7:06SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 7:06SPEAKER_02: And that's what we love to do.
- 7:07SPEAKER_02: We love taking these,
- 7:08just these simple ingredients and just turning them into
- 7:10something amazing.
- 7:11SPEAKER_02: You know,
- 7:12SPEAKER_02: you don't need,
- 7:12SPEAKER_02: like,
- 7:13you don't need anything crazy and any crazy ingredients and you
- 7:16could just make
- 7:16SPEAKER_02: something that's really good and
- 7:18SPEAKER_02: with simple ingredients.
- 7:20SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 7:20I think that's why we really liked your recipes that also we
- 7:24made a beautiful chicken dish.
- 7:25SPEAKER_00: Do you want to describe the chicken dish that we made?
- 7:27SPEAKER_03: All that saucy chicken and potatoes.
- 7:30SPEAKER_03: Yes.
- 7:31SPEAKER_03: That's the thing.
- 7:32SPEAKER_03: Like we are busy moms who don't really have a lot of time.
- 7:36SPEAKER_03: So we're always thinking, okay, what can we do?
- 7:39SPEAKER_03: That's just easy, delicious.
- 7:41And you could just throw it together,
- 7:43literally throw everything into the baking dish.
- 7:46SPEAKER_03: make your marinade and throw it together and pop it in the oven.
- 7:50SPEAKER_03: So you could do it the night before.
- 7:52SPEAKER_03: So it's a great make ahead or you can make it the same day.
- 7:55SPEAKER_03: But really just getting those flavors to infuse overnight is awesome.
- 7:59SPEAKER_03: And who doesn't love having dinner the day before?
- 8:02So all you have to do is throw it in the oven when you're ready
- 8:04to eat it is
- 8:05SPEAKER_03: exactly what we love to do.
- 8:08SPEAKER_00: How many days a week do you, okay, let's just back up a second.
- 8:11You guys have,
- 8:12I think we determined it was 8 million followers over all the platforms.
- 8:16How many days a week do you actually spend together creating
- 8:21content versus the
- 8:22SPEAKER_00: marketing and the managing of the content?
- 8:26I think that's the beauty of having two of us is we do a lot of
- 8:30divide and conquer,
- 8:31SPEAKER_03: which really helps us a lot.
- 8:33SPEAKER_03: And it alleviates a lot of pressure off of each other.
- 8:35SPEAKER_03: There's things that we obviously have to do together, like our end shots.
- 8:40Or if we're filming like a recipe clip that we're actually in,
- 8:44then we have to be together.
- 8:45I think we just kind of take it week by week because maybe we
- 8:49have like a high
- 8:49SPEAKER_03: sponsored week that we have to do our sponsors.
- 8:52SPEAKER_03: Or if we have a lighter week or we, you know,
- 8:55are going on vacation and we need to film as many as we can so
- 8:58we can have a little
- 8:59SPEAKER_03: bit extra content.
- 9:01SPEAKER_03: I think we just kind of take it week by week.
- 9:04SPEAKER_00: When you look at your content calendar,
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: how far in advance do you go or do you just do it week by week?
- 9:11I mean,
- 9:11I would love to say that we're the most organized sisters ever,
- 9:17but we're not.
- 9:18SPEAKER_03: We really just kind of sometimes we wing it.
- 9:22SPEAKER_03: Sometimes even we don't recipe test the recipe.
- 9:24SPEAKER_03: We're like, OK, let's just try this.
- 9:26SPEAKER_03: And sometimes it is 100 percent fail and it does not work.
- 9:30SPEAKER_03: And other times we're like, we nailed that.
- 9:33SPEAKER_03: Like it is absolutely amazing.
- 9:34SPEAKER_03: And then we get super excited.
- 9:36SPEAKER_03: Sometimes those are best recipes when it's just spur of the moment.
- 9:40SPEAKER_02: I was going to say, sometimes we have this like master plan.
- 9:43SPEAKER_02: Oh, we're going to make X, Y, Z today.
- 9:45SPEAKER_02: It's going to be great.
- 9:46And all of a sudden we're in the middle of making it and it
- 9:48turns into something a
- 9:49SPEAKER_02: hundred percent different.
- 9:50SPEAKER_02: And, and we just, we just go with it, you know?
- 9:54SPEAKER_00: It's so fun.
- 9:55SPEAKER_00: And the styling of the book,
- 9:58SPEAKER_00: what I noticed when I was at your home is you both have a similar style,
- 10:02SPEAKER_00: but
- 10:03But your homes are very curated and full of beautiful art and
- 10:07beautiful flowers.
- 10:09SPEAKER_00: And you have a real statement color palette.
- 10:12SPEAKER_00: And that kind of translates to your work online and the book.
- 10:16SPEAKER_00: Have you always been like that since you were little kids?
- 10:18SPEAKER_00: You're both matching.
- 10:19SPEAKER_00: You have all the perfect lips, the perfect hair, all the stuff.
- 10:24SPEAKER_03: It's so funny.
- 10:25SPEAKER_03: Our favorite color is really black and white.
- 10:27SPEAKER_03: It's not just something that we created for our brand.
- 10:31SPEAKER_03: It's legit what we love.
- 10:32SPEAKER_03: We love black and white.
- 10:34And when we were going through our brand and what we wanted it
- 10:38to look like,
- 10:39SPEAKER_03: it was,
- 10:39SPEAKER_03: okay,
- 10:40SPEAKER_03: how are we going to incorporate this into...
- 10:44SPEAKER_03: our brand because what we like at home, this is what we do at home.
- 10:49SPEAKER_03: And we also love it in our clothes.
- 10:51SPEAKER_03: So it's not just, we like black and white.
- 10:53And I,
- 10:54this might sound a little crazy that we love black and white
- 10:56and everything,
- 10:57but we do.
- 10:58SPEAKER_03: So it ended up being that we love it at home.
- 11:00SPEAKER_03: We love it in the book.
- 11:01SPEAKER_03: We love it in online.
- 11:03Like it's just,
- 11:04so it's,
- 11:04it's just part of our food dolls identity at this point.
- 11:08SPEAKER_00: Can you remember the first thing you guys ever made like by yourselves,
- 11:12SPEAKER_00: just like as a kid or like,
- 11:14did you have a first cookbook or do you remember just like that
- 11:17first thing you
- 11:18SPEAKER_00: really made?
- 11:18SPEAKER_02: I would,
- 11:19I'm pretty sure the first thing we probably ever made together
- 11:22was probably baked cookies,
- 11:24SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 11:24SPEAKER_02: like just straight up cookies or a box of brownie mix or something.
- 11:30SPEAKER_00: Totally.
- 11:30SPEAKER_00: That is,
- 11:31and it was always like cookies or brownies because it was kind
- 11:34of a one bowl situation,
- 11:35SPEAKER_00: right?
- 11:36SPEAKER_00: You didn't want to make a mess with your mom.
- 11:38SPEAKER_00: Is there a recipe that you feel like A,
- 11:41SPEAKER_00: gets a lot of traction,
- 11:42SPEAKER_00: but B,
- 11:43SPEAKER_00: like really represents you?
- 11:45SPEAKER_00: It's like, this is the one that we feel like is our statement.
- 11:48SPEAKER_03: Wow, that's a really good question.
- 11:51SPEAKER_03: Okay, I will say this.
- 11:52Our most popular recipes are the most shocking that we would
- 11:56have never guessed
- 11:57SPEAKER_03: that these are like the most popular recipes.
- 12:00SPEAKER_03: We did a baked spaghetti that...
- 12:04went absolutely crazy would we have thought that that was going
- 12:07to be our number
- 12:08one recipe on the website no we love it but people went crazy
- 12:14over it so crazy and
- 12:15it was just really shocking to us but i think we kind of came
- 12:19to the conclusion is
- 12:20our top recipes are like the simplest easiest like you've got
- 12:24these recipes you've
- 12:25got these ingredients in your pantry so all you have to do is
- 12:28throw it together and
- 12:29SPEAKER_03: i think that's what always wins
- 12:31yeah and it's always surprising like the ones that get the most
- 12:36traction and you
- 12:37just think like wow that's weird like one of mine is this chow
- 12:41chow relish that
- 12:42they bake usually in the south and i always have green tomatoes
- 12:45that i garden with
- 12:46so i ended up just having to kind of make this thing and it's
- 12:51like always in the
- 12:51top three i don't know who's clicking on that recipe that much
- 12:55but people are it's
- 12:56SPEAKER_00: weird
- 12:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's funny how that works.
- 12:58SPEAKER_02: It's just what you think is gonna like people are like,
- 13:01SPEAKER_02: Oh,
- 13:01SPEAKER_02: my God,
- 13:01SPEAKER_02: this is so good is the opposite.
- 13:03SPEAKER_02: And it's like something that,
- 13:04SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 13:05SPEAKER_02: is the most like rodosa and simple and basic and,
- 13:08SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 13:09SPEAKER_00: When we talk about your Egyptian heritage,
- 13:13SPEAKER_00: and I asked you guys about this when we met,
- 13:16SPEAKER_00: what is it specifically like,
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: for instance,
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: when we were doing the orzo bake,
- 13:21SPEAKER_00: the producer asked you,
- 13:23SPEAKER_00: what do you think about this makes it Egyptian?
- 13:26And I was saying the flavor profiles and the types of
- 13:30ingredients that we use.
- 13:31But is there something that you feel like is uniquely Egyptian
- 13:35that you bring to the party?
- 13:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 13:36SPEAKER_02: That's a really good question.
- 13:38So I'd say a lot of the dishes in the book are not necessarily
- 13:43like true Egyptian,
- 13:45SPEAKER_02: it's got like some fusion to it with like Mediterranean flavors.
- 13:49And a lot of the like the real traditional Egyptian recipes
- 13:52might be a little bit
- 13:53SPEAKER_02: more intricate.
- 13:54So we were trying to simplify it by using some of those those
- 13:58same flavor profiles,
- 14:00but not necessarily doing it step by step like our mom would do
- 14:04our aunt or grandma,
- 14:05SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 14:07One of the ingredients in the casserole that we made was tomato
- 14:10paste and you
- 14:11SPEAKER_00: cooked down the tomato paste.
- 14:13SPEAKER_00: But that like when you think about tomatoes in warm climates,
- 14:17SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 14:17SPEAKER_00: the flavor is so intense and so concentrated.
- 14:20SPEAKER_00: And you do kind of get that from a tomato paste.
- 14:23SPEAKER_00: I hadn't really thought about that before.
- 14:25SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's very true.
- 14:26SPEAKER_02: And we do have a lot of dishes that are very tomato based as well.
- 14:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love it.
- 14:32SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 14:32So when you guys are like absolutely exhausted and the kids are
- 14:37driving you crazy
- 14:38SPEAKER_00: and it's six o'clock and you have to put something,
- 14:41SPEAKER_00: is there like a go-to meal for each of you?
- 14:44SPEAKER_03: Um,
- 14:44SPEAKER_03: I'm like thinking about it because I'm like,
- 14:46SPEAKER_03: okay,
- 14:46SPEAKER_03: there's a lot I feel like are like the chicken and potatoes,
- 14:50SPEAKER_03: I think for sure to just kind of throw together.
- 14:54SPEAKER_03: But I really do love that to sit overnight.
- 14:56SPEAKER_03: But if I'm like, in a pinch, I will say the kids.
- 15:01maybe sometimes eat something different than I do because
- 15:05they're so picky.
- 15:06SPEAKER_03: Like I have a four-year-old,
- 15:07SPEAKER_03: a nine-year-old,
- 15:08SPEAKER_03: and one wants,
- 15:10SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 15:10quesadillas and the other one's like fighting me on the chicken
- 15:14and potatoes and rice.
- 15:15SPEAKER_03: Like, so I would say that it's always two different things.
- 15:18I'm not even going to lie about it because they drive me
- 15:21absolutely crazy about
- 15:23SPEAKER_03: getting them to eat everything online.
- 15:25SPEAKER_03: All at the same time and and the same thing.
- 15:28SPEAKER_03: So I would say for me, it would be the chicken potatoes for them.
- 15:30SPEAKER_03: It would definitely be some sort of pasta.
- 15:32SPEAKER_03: And we love one pot pastas because you can have it ready in 15 minutes.
- 15:36SPEAKER_03: And we have so many one pot pastas in our book.
- 15:38SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you do have a lot.
- 15:40SPEAKER_00: I tried to make the dish.
- 15:42as a one pot with the pasta already in the baking dish and make
- 15:46the sauce right in
- 15:47SPEAKER_00: the pan,
- 15:48SPEAKER_00: but I couldn't get the right ratio of water to pasta.
- 15:54SPEAKER_00: I made it twice and the pasta kept coming out a little crunchy.
- 15:58SPEAKER_00: So I moved on and I just made it,
- 16:00SPEAKER_00: I just boiled the pasta and did it that way and added it later.
- 16:03SPEAKER_00: But I did try twice to get it like,
- 16:06cause I kept thinking it would be so great if you could just do
- 16:08this all in the
- 16:09SPEAKER_00: oven in the one pan.
- 16:11SPEAKER_00: And maybe a different pan or a flatter pan.
- 16:13SPEAKER_00: I could have.
- 16:15SPEAKER_02: That could be.
- 16:16And it could be also the kind of pasta that sometimes makes a
- 16:19difference as well.
- 16:20SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I should have tried an orzo, but I had a penne.
- 16:23SPEAKER_00: So, yep.
- 16:24SPEAKER_00: Do you,
- 16:25SPEAKER_00: when your kids are like picky like that,
- 16:27SPEAKER_00: do you feel like,
- 16:29SPEAKER_00: okay,
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: no kids,
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: this is what I made.
- 16:31SPEAKER_00: This is what we're eating.
- 16:32SPEAKER_00: I'm not a short order cook.
- 16:34SPEAKER_00: Or are you more lax and you're like,
- 16:36SPEAKER_00: just whatever we're eating,
- 16:37SPEAKER_00: go ahead,
- 16:38SPEAKER_00: eat it as long as you eat.
- 16:39I would have to say I kind of started,
- 16:42especially with my kids,
- 16:43learning how they are.
- 16:46And I don't care if I make the same thing every single week if
- 16:50I know they're going to eat it.
- 16:51Why am I going to sit here and fight every single week to try
- 16:55to get them to try new things?
- 16:56Because I see Alia as like the perfect examples because my kids
- 17:01are younger.
- 17:02SPEAKER_03: Hers are older.
- 17:02SPEAKER_03: So now they're starting to eat.
- 17:05SPEAKER_03: So I know hopefully eventually they'll get there,
- 17:08but we're in this like little phase right now where I'm trying
- 17:11to just get them to eat.
- 17:12SPEAKER_03: I just want them to eat.
- 17:13SPEAKER_03: I don't care what they eat.
- 17:14SPEAKER_03: I just want them to eat the dinner.
- 17:16So I will make the same things over and over and over again
- 17:18because I know they
- 17:19SPEAKER_03: like it and I know they'll eat it.
- 17:20SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
- 17:22SPEAKER_02: I was going to say a lot of times,
- 17:23SPEAKER_02: like even like,
- 17:23SPEAKER_02: for example,
- 17:24SPEAKER_02: we do have like a Southwest salad in the cookbook.
- 17:28SPEAKER_02: So what I'll do instead of assembling it all together as a salad,
- 17:31SPEAKER_02: I kind of keep it some of the components separate.
- 17:34So all the kids could kind of grab what they do like and what
- 17:36they don't like.
- 17:38SPEAKER_02: So that way it's like,
- 17:38SPEAKER_02: it feels custom to them versus,
- 17:41SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 17:42SPEAKER_02: making it,
- 17:42SPEAKER_02: putting everything together and forcing them to eat it as is.
- 17:46SPEAKER_00: That's smart.
- 17:46SPEAKER_00: It's like the Chipotle method, right?
- 17:48SPEAKER_00: Giving them choices.
- 17:49SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 17:50SPEAKER_00: I do think,
- 17:51SPEAKER_00: too,
- 17:52like we spend a lot of time worrying about stuff that's
- 17:55probably not super
- 17:56SPEAKER_00: consequential in the grand scheme of life.
- 18:00SPEAKER_00: Kids are going to eat, you know, sooner or later they're going to eat.
- 18:03SPEAKER_00: Sooner or later they're going to develop their palate.
- 18:05SPEAKER_00: Whether,
- 18:06SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 18:07SPEAKER_00: they were part of the clean plate club or not,
- 18:09it feels like kind of a weird thing to worry about looking back
- 18:11on my childhood and
- 18:12how much time and struggle there was about like what you ate
- 18:16and you couldn't leave
- 18:17SPEAKER_00: the table till you ate it and just kind of dumb.
- 18:20When you think about social media with your kids,
- 18:24I noticed that we don't really see your kids.
- 18:26Is that intentional or how do you feel like you want your kids
- 18:30to show up as
- 18:32SPEAKER_00: teenagers and young adults in this profile of their moms being so famous?
- 18:38SPEAKER_02: Yes, that is a great question.
- 18:39SPEAKER_02: So we purposely we do not put our kids on social media.
- 18:43SPEAKER_02: And we have very,
- 18:44SPEAKER_02: very little images of images of them anywhere,
- 18:48SPEAKER_02: just to protect their privacy as well,
- 18:50SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 18:51SPEAKER_02: and it's like once stuff is out in social media,
- 18:53SPEAKER_02: once it's out in the world,
- 18:54SPEAKER_02: it's out there forever.
- 18:55SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
- 18:57SPEAKER_02: We choose to keep them out.
- 18:59Sure that they have that decision later,
- 19:01you know,
- 19:02like not come back at us.
- 19:04SPEAKER_03: Like, why did you put me on there?
- 19:05SPEAKER_03: You know, have that choice later.
- 19:07SPEAKER_03: And so now we're going to be mama bears and just protect them.
- 19:11SPEAKER_00: I think, too, we're seeing the social media.
- 19:14SPEAKER_00: I guess Facebook just turned 20 recently, which is hard to believe.
- 19:18SPEAKER_00: But when it first came about,
- 19:20SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 19:20like we were just on it and it was new and it was exciting and
- 19:23we didn't really
- 19:24SPEAKER_00: think about the big picture.
- 19:25SPEAKER_00: And I think now if I had my daughter's 25.
- 19:29So if I had I made her wait till 13 and if I had to do it all
- 19:33over again and I was
- 19:34SPEAKER_00: in this day and age,
- 19:34SPEAKER_00: I definitely would.
- 19:36I might get my kid like a flip phone or something terrible that
- 19:40they can only call me on.
- 19:41But I would have waited because I do think social media adds an
- 19:45element to young
- 19:48kids' lives that maybe they don't need or aren't ready for it
- 19:51until later.
- 19:52SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
- 19:53SPEAKER_03: 100% agree with you on that.
- 19:56SPEAKER_00: How do your parents feel about your business?
- 19:58SPEAKER_03: I think it took them such a long time to fully understand it.
- 20:02SPEAKER_03: It's probably so weird.
- 20:05SPEAKER_03: Grasp what exactly we are doing.
- 20:09But we know that they're so proud of us and super excited to
- 20:13see us do this.
- 20:14SPEAKER_03: And,
- 20:14SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 20:15SPEAKER_03: especially mom,
- 20:16SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 20:17she was a really big influence for us growing up and in the
- 20:21cooking world.
- 20:21SPEAKER_03: So we love making them proud.
- 20:25Do you have anxiety about,
- 20:27like,
- 20:28keeping up or,
- 20:29like,
- 20:30always being on the churn?
- 20:32SPEAKER_00: And what do you do for, like, self-care?
- 20:35SPEAKER_00: Ooh, that's a great one.
- 20:36SPEAKER_02: Yes,
- 20:37SPEAKER_02: I'd say we do definitely have the anxiety,
- 20:39SPEAKER_02: but we try to,
- 20:40SPEAKER_02: we always talk each other down,
- 20:42SPEAKER_02: calm each other down,
- 20:43SPEAKER_02: and just know that,
- 20:44SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 20:45SPEAKER_02: just talk things through together,
- 20:47SPEAKER_02: but...
- 20:48SPEAKER_02: And I'd say probably self-care.
- 20:50SPEAKER_02: We like to work out just to kind of,
- 20:51SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 20:53SPEAKER_02: really get the release those endorphins,
- 20:56you know.
- 20:57SPEAKER_03: And we we actually do yell at each other, like stop working.
- 21:00SPEAKER_03: You need to stop working.
- 21:01SPEAKER_03: Stop looking at your screen.
- 21:03SPEAKER_03: Put your computer down.
- 21:04SPEAKER_03: Stop doing this.
- 21:05SPEAKER_03: We do that all all the time to each other.
- 21:07SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 21:09SPEAKER_00: What are your favorite types of workouts?
- 21:12SPEAKER_01: I would say lifting and walking.
- 21:14SPEAKER_01: What was lifting and walking?
- 21:16SPEAKER_01: Yep, same lifting, walking and, you know.
- 21:19SPEAKER_01: Doing some sort of cardio.
- 21:21SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 21:22SPEAKER_00: And you have kids too.
- 21:23SPEAKER_00: So you're probably trying to fit it in when you can.
- 21:26And it's hard to like go to a structured gym and do all that
- 21:29when you've got a lot
- 21:30SPEAKER_00: of family at home.
- 21:31SPEAKER_00: And how do you feel about working from home?
- 21:34SPEAKER_00: And does that work for your schedules?
- 21:36Or do you ever visualize like someday having an office where
- 21:39you have all your production stuff?
- 21:42I love working from home because of the flexibility and having
- 21:46everything at home
- 21:47SPEAKER_03: where you could quickly just...
- 21:50But it's definitely a challenge to disconnect sometimes because
- 21:53work is home,
- 21:53home is work.
- 21:54SPEAKER_03: So it's hard to like break the two apart.
- 21:59SPEAKER_03: But it's nice that we have two houses.
- 22:00SPEAKER_03: So if we need a break from one house, we go to the other one.
- 22:03SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that is nice.
- 22:04SPEAKER_00: Like just because it can just feel so much like,
- 22:07SPEAKER_00: oh,
- 22:07SPEAKER_00: you're just in your house all the time doing all this stuff.
- 22:11SPEAKER_02: And it's, it really is hard to disconnect.
- 22:13So it's not like we try to have work hours,
- 22:15but it's like,
- 22:16it's almost impossible.
- 22:18SPEAKER_02: So like we'll work and then we'll take a break,
- 22:20SPEAKER_02: even run kids activities,
- 22:22SPEAKER_02: come back,
- 22:22SPEAKER_02: finish working.
- 22:23SPEAKER_02: So it's like, it feels like sometimes it's like a nonstop cycle.
- 22:27But yeah,
- 22:27that's when we have to put each other in check,
- 22:30say,
- 22:30get off and go take a break.
- 22:33SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 22:33SPEAKER_00: Switching gears.
- 22:34SPEAKER_00: What is your,
- 22:35SPEAKER_00: and each of you can have a separate answer,
- 22:37SPEAKER_00: of course,
- 22:38but what is your like most used kitchen utensil or gadget or
- 22:43thing that like you
- 22:44SPEAKER_00: could not live without?
- 22:45SPEAKER_01: Air fryer.
- 22:47SPEAKER_01: That was so fast.
- 22:49SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
- 22:49SPEAKER_01: I have to second her.
- 22:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 22:52SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 22:52SPEAKER_00: Really?
- 22:53SPEAKER_00: I use my air fryer so rarely.
- 22:55SPEAKER_00: It's in the garage.
- 22:57SPEAKER_00: Like, do you use it every day?
- 22:59SPEAKER_00: What are you doing with it?
- 23:00SPEAKER_03: Every single day.
- 23:02SPEAKER_03: Like there is not a day that goes by that I don't use that.
- 23:05SPEAKER_02: Really?
- 23:05SPEAKER_02: For reheating things, for making things.
- 23:08SPEAKER_02: We actually do have some instructions in the cookbook.
- 23:11SPEAKER_02: Like if,
- 23:12SPEAKER_02: if you want to make this recipe in an air fryer,
- 23:14SPEAKER_02: how to do that,
- 23:15SPEAKER_02: but it just makes things so much easier.
- 23:17SPEAKER_02: Even if like the kids want to make chicken and fries or something,
- 23:20SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 23:20SPEAKER_02: it crisps it up perfectly and it feels like you're eating it,
- 23:24SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 23:24SPEAKER_02: freshly like deep fried,
- 23:25SPEAKER_02: you know?
- 23:27All right,
- 23:27I'm going to have to get my air fryer out of the garage and
- 23:30give it another try.
- 23:31SPEAKER_00: I just, I don't know.
- 23:33SPEAKER_00: It's like, and I have a convection oven too.
- 23:35So I think the convection oven does the same thing,
- 23:37but I don't have kids.
- 23:38SPEAKER_00: So maybe that's different,
- 23:40SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 23:40just the speed and convenience of it being right on the counter
- 23:43like that.
- 23:45SPEAKER_03: And you mentioned what we do on there.
- 23:47SPEAKER_03: And honestly,
- 23:48SPEAKER_03: like even we do like French toast,
- 23:50SPEAKER_03: like if you want to make French toast,
- 23:51SPEAKER_03: you can throw your French toast in there.
- 23:53SPEAKER_03: Or if you make a marinated chicken, just throw it in there, shut it.
- 23:57SPEAKER_03: And it's done in no time.
- 23:59SPEAKER_03: And you don't have to worry about mess.
- 24:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 24:01SPEAKER_00: And it goes faster too.
- 24:03SPEAKER_00: You guys will be on a book tour, I'm imagining.
- 24:06SPEAKER_00: Is that all coming together?
- 24:07SPEAKER_00: And how is that feeling?
- 24:08SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 24:09SPEAKER_03: It's exciting.
- 24:11SPEAKER_03: Super excited to do that.
- 24:12SPEAKER_03: That's going to be end of February, beginning of March.
- 24:16SPEAKER_03: We have, we're stopping at five different cities.
- 24:19SPEAKER_03: So we're really excited about that.
- 24:21SPEAKER_02: And I'm going to be here in Minneapolis.
- 24:24SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's so great.
- 24:25SPEAKER_02: Do you know where you're going to be or what you're doing yet?
- 24:28SPEAKER_02: We're going to be at the Barnes and Noble in Edina.
- 24:30So that'll be where I don't think we have a confirmed time yet,
- 24:34but that'll be on March.
- 24:36SPEAKER_02: It's a Sunday, March 2nd, I believe.
- 24:38SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 24:39SPEAKER_00: Well, when you know, just let me know and I'll make sure and share it.
- 24:42SPEAKER_00: It's been super fun just chatting with you guys.
- 24:45I knew just from kind of following you that I like,
- 24:48oh,
- 24:49I'm going to like these girls.
- 24:50SPEAKER_00: But really, honestly, it was like one of my best days.
- 24:53SPEAKER_00: And I just so proud of you.
- 24:55SPEAKER_00: And I feel...
- 24:56SPEAKER_00: Like,
- 24:57you know how you you meet people and you want them to be
- 25:00successful or you're so
- 25:01SPEAKER_00: proud of their success.
- 25:02SPEAKER_00: That's how I feel about you guys.
- 25:03You really work hard and you've really earned everything that's
- 25:08coming your way.
- 25:09SPEAKER_00: And I think the book's going to be amazing.
- 25:10And it was just it's been fun to just be a little tiny,
- 25:13tiny part of the journey for a second.
- 25:16SPEAKER_00: It's been a blast.
- 25:17SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much.
- 25:18And honestly,
- 25:19your energy that you brought to that table last week was everything.
- 25:24SPEAKER_03: You made us feel so good.
- 25:25SPEAKER_03: And we felt like a million bucks after you left.
- 25:28SPEAKER_03: So thank you.
- 25:30I am also honored to have gotten to work with you and now we
- 25:34get to be friends.
- 25:35SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 25:37SPEAKER_00: I'm actually,
- 25:38SPEAKER_00: I just,
- 25:38SPEAKER_00: I'm planning,
- 25:39SPEAKER_00: I booked a,
- 25:42SPEAKER_00: do you know,
- 25:42SPEAKER_00: a Kamayan feast at Vinay and I've had one for a while.
- 25:46SPEAKER_00: And so I was like,
- 25:47SPEAKER_00: oh,
- 25:47SPEAKER_00: I wonder,
- 25:48maybe I'll do a gathering of like food ladies just to do
- 25:50something fun and different.
- 25:51SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 25:52SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 25:53SPEAKER_00: All right, you guys, your book's going to be great.
- 25:56SPEAKER_00: Keep me in the loop.
- 25:57SPEAKER_00: I'll keep you in the loop if anything fun's happening.
- 26:00SPEAKER_00: And just thanks for being taste buds.
- 26:03SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
- 26:03SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
- 26:04SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 26:05SPEAKER_00: We'll see you soon.
- 26:06SPEAKER_01: Bye.
- 26:06SPEAKER_01: Bye-bye.