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Weight loss and hard seasons with PFN member, Grace Massey · SAY GRACE | Weight Loss + Health for Overwhelmed Women- Stress, Busy, Consistency, Realistic, Motivation, Starting Over, No Restrictions

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  Music.
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  Today on Say Grace Podcast, we are talking to longtime member Grace Massey.
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  On this episode, we're going to talk about her journey with weight loss through
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  all her seasons of motherhood, plus a lot of grief and learning the importance
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  of community and listening to your body through each of these seasons.
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  I know Grace's experience will be so relatable to so many of us. So here we you go.
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  Welcome, Grace. We are so excited to have you today on the Say Grace podcast.
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  I'm glad to be here. Nervous, but excited. Well, we're happy to have you.
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  And I know our listeners are going to love hearing all your good stuff.
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  So to get started, tell us a little bit about who you are, what you do,
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  what your daily life looks like. Just give us a rundown.
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  Okay. So I am Grace.
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  I have been married to my husband, Kevin, for 20 years.
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  We celebrated 20 years in October, which sometimes I'm like,
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  am I old enough to be married 20 years?
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  But apparently I am. So I have a daughter who is 12 in seventh grade.
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  And then I also have a daughter who has just turned four, and she is a handful.
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  She was our surprise, but a good surprise and a perfect example of God's timing
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  because the huge gap, we did try to have more.
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  It just didn't work out. And we
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  were like, okay, well, obviously the Lord just wants us to have the one.
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  And I got comfortable with that. And of course, that's when it happens.
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  But we came along and then, you know, you sort of know my story.
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  A lot of things happened in my life that were terrible.
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  And she was the, you know, like our little breath of fresh air.
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  Yes, absolutely. And we'll happy spot sunshine.
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  So she's also the reason I have to get my hair colored side.
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  I feel that. She is, oh my goodness.
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  I mean, it's amazing that how similar she can be, but also how different she is than my older one.
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  We hopped on the Zoom call. She was in the, in the frame with us and he had
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  on an Elsa dress with a light up crown.
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  She was living her life. and it's early in the morning and she's ready for the
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  day in her princess gear.
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  She wakes up asking, can I put on a costume?
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  So, you know, I'm like, yes, whatever. I don't care.
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  So, and then, so anyway, I have two girls and then I am an interior designer.
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  I have been working with the same team,
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  shop for like 18
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  years so yes again I'm old enough to have been working that long but yes I am
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  and I really my my work is awesome because I work at like a retail setting so
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  like I don't have to get up and be at any like work at seven o'clock in the
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  morning or whatever have to be there at 10.
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  So I'm you know like pretty much the one in the mornings who is responsible
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  for getting everybody situated my husband gets up he has to be at work early
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  so he gets up gets himself ready,
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  I get him coffee he's out the door and then I'm getting
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  the 12 year old ready she rides the bus now because
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  I just was like I have to take something off my plate I mean
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  because even though I don't have to be at work till 10 I still
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  I mean there's not I'm like I don't hardly have any
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  time to sit so good for I
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  know that was tough and good it was it was hard
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  it was hard and I do take her some mornings like if the weather
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  sometimes is bad I'll take her or she's got has to
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  be there early but right now I was just like well because.
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  It's like okay you've been blessed with that window
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  in the morning yes right but then like you weren't able
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  to fully utilize it for yourself right exactly I'm
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  proud of you well and then it like I was like as much as
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  it like was like a hard decision she the girl
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  who ends up that ended up being her bus driver is somebody I've known for a
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  really long time and so it and she's like so
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  I was like okay this is like this you know you're putting your baby on
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  this bus but you know thankfully it's
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  somebody I know and I can trust and know that she's a good hands so you
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  know she she groans about it but in
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  the end of the day she puts her earbuds in and listens to music much she's
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  a music girl so she's fine and I am
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  able I mean it really I tell her I'm like it saves me an hour
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  by the time taking her sitting in the car
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  the the car rider line dropping her off by the time I get
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  back home from all that traffic it's taken me an hour so
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  I was like you know I'm sorry I know you hate it but so anyway
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  that takes that off of my plate so I get her out the door and then the little
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  four-year-old's usually waking up when she's leaving so then of course this
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  you know a wild and crazy can I put on a costume I want breakfast can I watch
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  you put this on the tv you know trying to get her situated so that I can get ready.
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  And then she goes to her babysitter is about 20 minutes away from here right now.
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  So I have to leave, you know, get ready.
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  We leave about nine, drop her off and I'm at work at 10.
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  But so I'm like, how do people do it that have to be somewhere by like eight
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  o'clock? I'm like, we could never do that. They get up with the sun.
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  I mean, it's just, it's, it's insane. So I am very blessed in that,
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  that, that lot, that work situation. And so anyway, I get to work at 10.
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  My days usually fly by.
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  What is your day-to-day? Do you ever have a client's time?
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  Yeah. So, I work in a retail setting. We do sell out of a showroom,
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  but also, I mean, our real business is design. So, I go in client's houses. We,
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  You know, we do everything from helping pick tiles and paints and,
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  you know, new construction to if somebody's just like, I need a sofa,
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  but I don't know what size I need.
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  You know, can you come and measure? I go measure. I help them pick.
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  So everything. I mean, there's, you know, there's really been nothing that we've
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  ever been asked to do that we said no, you know, no to. Yeah.
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  Sometimes it may be new to us, but we'll figure it out. Right.
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  So, yeah. So it just depends. And some days I'm in the store all day.
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  Then some days I have appointments in and out.
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  So days that I'm out, I go by faster, of course, than days that I'm in the shop.
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  And then, I mean, of course, this is how many year in January is slow in retail
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  because everybody's recovering from Christmas.
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  So I expect February will be starting.
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  And this weather has just, you know, I mean, I'm like, if I didn't have to get
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  out and go anywhere, I certainly wouldn't be getting out and going in there now. The rain, the cold.
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  That's awful. So anyway, I'm looking for some sunshiny days. I'm ready for that.
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  But I get off work at four and then I have to pick up my four-year-old and then we come home.
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  And right now my oldest is, she's real into theater.
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  She's doing a play. And so we have, it's the end of February.
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  So she has play practice four nights a week. Oh my gosh.
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  It's a lot. I'm like, how do people do it that have two close in age? Because I don't know.
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  I mean, I guess my husband and I would never see each other because we'd be
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  running in different directions.
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  So we get home I fix I start
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  dinner sometimes I finish out and she can eat before we leave
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  but if not she'll have a snack and then she can eat when she gets home but
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  I get dinner started and either I take her or
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  if Kevin gets home in time he'll take her and then whoever takes her
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  we swap off and the other one picks her up and then
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  we come home and it's usually about eight o'clock when we get home and
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  I've you know tried to get the four-year-old while
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  the other one's at play practice bathed and fed and she's
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  unfortunately because she is so much younger and
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  sort of just got thrown into the mix she stays up too late there
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  is no yeah typical youngest
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  child I mean I'm like just dragging her along
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  for the ride so but she's fine she's thriving she's living her best life she
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  she my other my oldest was like the best sleeper and this one is not she does
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  not want to go to bed she fights it sometimes she's still up in her room and
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  I'm in I'm asleep in my bed I'm like you should stay in your room I can't you
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  know I don't know what you want me to do so then.
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  We start all over the next day so yeah okay so
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  tell me kind of where weight loss fits into all this well I do get up I try
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  to get up and go to the gym in the morning if I don't get it done I've learned
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  after having kids if I don't go before everybody gets up I'm not going to do it I mean,
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  when in my afternoons do I have time? I mean, you know, there's no time.
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  So I do get up at about 4.45 and I go to the gym at 5.15 and I work out. And I will say like...
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  It's hard, and I'm exhausted when I first wake up, but my day goes better.
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  I've already drank a whole thing of water before, you know, before the sun comes
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  up. I make better food choices.
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  You just mentally feel better. Yes, and I come home, I have,
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  like, a little bit of me time.
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  I'm like, if I don't get up and go work out, then I'm dragging myself out of
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  the bed at the same time that my 12-year-old's waking up, you know, trying to be up.
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  Because I don't want to be in the bed when she's leaving to go to school.
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  So I'm dragging myself up and I just don't feel like I feel I feel like I'm
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  more on my game when I'm already up and I've already gotten it done.
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  And I was actually I just started back. This is I went a couple of days last
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  week, but I'd had been out for my foot.
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  So I've been doing PT and it was it was hard.
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  I mean, to get back. I mean, when you get out of the routine of waking up at
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  445, it's hard to get back into it. But this week's been good.
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  And I really have been I just feel more productive. you
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  know and like I said I make better food choices it's because
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  I'm trying to you know I'm doing better like
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  also I was laughing because when I've been tracking when I wasn't
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  working out I really realized how much I rely on those few extra calories that
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  I get from working out I'm like oh my gosh I need those extra like 300 calories
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  that I actually get so but yeah I just feel like I'm in a better I just it all
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  falls in line better when you know when one thing's working And I feel like everything works.
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  And even if I'm not doing as good with my eating, I feel like at least I'm working.
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  You know, I always feel like at least I'm getting my workouts in.
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  So it just, it's the like me thing, you know.
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  I want to, before we keep talking about your weight loss, I do want to take a minute here.
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  And I apologize because I did not mention this to you before we started.
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  But I would love for you to just kind of talk about, because I know,
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  so y'all, Grace has been with us for a while.
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  And she hit a season where weight loss was a struggle right and but we were
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  still getting up and going to the gym every day or trying to but then it became
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  like oh my gosh I don't want to,
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  and she made it she made a switch for you know for your type of exercise right
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  like yes yes yes Talk about it a little bit.
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  I was at a gym. So I have found that over the years of, I mean,
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  I've worked out since I was in high school.
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  But I mean, that involved going to the gym, 30 minutes of walking on the treadmill
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  or riding a bike, and then the weight machines.
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  You know, I mean, just something, I think that's kind of what we all used to do.
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  And then as I got a little older, I started trying like at the YMCA,
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  like a little Zumba class or a little group class here and there,
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  but still just working on my own. Yeah.
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  But after having, then I did a personal trainer, which was great.
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  But I mean, it's just after kids who can afford that.
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  So I realized that I started a group class and I realized that group exercise
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  was really what works for me, especially just, I mean, because my whole friend
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  group now is based off of my friends that I met at the gym.
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  So I went through and then the gym I loved and adored closed after COVID and
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  then I got pregnant and so I fell off. But then I kind of tried some things,
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  ended up at one place, was doing it. It was fine.
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  I didn't feel the connection there ever that I felt in my last gym before that.
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  And just the workouts, I mean, I'm getting older.
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  Workouts were just, I just felt sort of like, yes.
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  And I just felt like it was frustrating because if I can't do it,
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  then I'm like, I don't, you know, I didn't look forward to getting up and going
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  because I was like, I just can't, I feel like I can't keep up.
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  And so I kind of just went through a season where I just, I was making more
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  excuses to not go than to go, which was sad because I loved the gym.
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  But two, I feel like your body was, I mean, you can call it an excuse if you
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  want to, but looking back, I feel like your body was saying like, no.
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  Yeah. Yeah. It was like, this is too much. Surely we can do something else. Yes, exactly.
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  This is too much. And you know, it sucks. It really sucks to be like,
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  we're like, are you 40 yet?
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  Yeah. Yes. I am. I turned 43.
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  Okay. So we're, so 40. Yeah. So I, yes, I'm hitting that stage where I'm like, my knees, everything.
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  It sucks to accept that, right? Because we still want to exercise like we're 25 or whatever.
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  But like, we have to accept it to serve our bodies well.
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  And so I just, I feel like, I don't know. So when you, you left that gym and went to a different one.
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  So yes, several people that, there was a new gym that opened and several of
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  my little group from the other gym went to try it.
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  And I, you know, I don't like changing her though. I'm like,
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  yeah, I don't like, I don't, you know, and I was like, let me just try it.
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  And like, loved it. I loved it. I just felt like it was somewhere between like,
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  wasn't the hardest thing, like what I had been doing, but it wasn't sit and be fit.
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  You know, like I was like still feeling pushed.
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  And I was at your level. Yes. And I remember coming to you and saying,
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  Hey, because the workouts are shorter.
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  I was doing a 45-minute workout. These are 30 minutes. And I remember talking
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  to you about that and going, I'm not burning as many calories as I was.
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  But then I think we both agreed that if I'm like at the other place,
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  I wasn't necessarily able to do.
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  Yeah. And I wasn't going. So it's like, are you...
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  Is it better to go and not burn as many calories than it is to,
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  you know, push yourself really hard and burn them and then not be able to go
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  the rest of the week because you can't walk, you know?
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  Right. And then in that same season where you were doing the 45 minutes and
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  they were really intense and whatever, like you were not losing weight and you
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  were extremely frustrated with that.
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  And it was like, as soon as you made this switch to the shorter,
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  just a little bit less intensity. I mean, I know that workout's still hard, right?
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  But you just made the switch to something that was a better fit for you.
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  It was like the weight started coming off too.
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  I swear inflammation in your body and like your muscles and your body talks to you.
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  And they're, you know, if they don't like it, they're definitely not going to shed fat.
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  And so I just feel like, I don't know, I was just so proud of you for,
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  for making that switch. And then, you know, just, yeah.
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  And I still, I mean, I love it as much. I was like devastated when I was out
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  for six weeks because I was so ready to get back into it.
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  And I know I would not have been that way yeah at my last
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  one I would have been it would have been I would have been hard for me
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  to get motivated to go back but I was really ready to go back
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  so yes that was that was
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  a big thing that I just got gym burnout you know I mean it was it was a lot
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  to do with with the hardness and just I never felt the connection and I think
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  that I'd had such a great connection at the place before and you know I don't
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  know I just so this has been I found I feel like I found my place you know I love it.
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  Oh, and that matters so much. Okay, so I didn't mean to detour.
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  So anyway, talk about your weight loss.
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  So, yes, so like I was just, like I said, I was always able to just kind of
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  work out and, you know, like eat what I want and it worked.
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  I mean, like then I guess it was before my 12-year-old, before I got pregnant
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  with her, I was like, one day I just looked at myself and I was like,
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  you know, I got to do something.
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  So I started, that was when I started with a trainer and I got a meal plan.
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  And I mean, it was exactly what you think.
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  I mean, chicken breasts, eggs, oatmeal, vegetables.
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  And I mean, being young and not having kids, I was able to sort of do it.
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  I could do, and we were allowed to have a cheat meal, you know, so like I would eat.
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  And my husband, I didn't have to fix for him. That's because he could do,
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  you know, I mean, he could fix for himself.
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  So I did it. I stuck to it. I've always been pretty good. As I've gotten older,
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  it's harder, but I've always been pretty good about when I set my mind to something.
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  If I say I'm doing it, I can do it.
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  And so I did it, lost weight. I saw changes because I was working out.
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  And so it was sort of working together, the workouts with the meal plan.
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  But then I got pregnant with Ella Grace. And so immediately it.
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  You know, I'm pregnant. Yeah, I'm done with that. I got to eat everything.
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  I was so sick that my doctor was like, if you're like eating something, eat it.
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  So it was lots of McDonald's sausage biscuits and lots of cherry icies.
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  And I mean, the cherry icing thing was an issue, because let me tell you,
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  do you know how many icy machines are always down?
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  Who has a cherry icy that I can, you know, I had to find my places.
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  But okay, with Sarah Mason, loved it
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  had to be from sonic a chocolate milkshake like that
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  was it was only the only sonic and like there was one by
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  our house and just took me one night
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  and girl they did not have a chocolate milkshake and i
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  legit cried i mean i cried right there in the
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  car i think we ended up going to another one but i mean it was a big
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  deal it was a big deal yeah that's what you wanted well that's
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  and my boss used to laugh because when i was pregnant i would like be
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  like i think i could eat and i'd like say something and
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  so he'd be like y'all go get her for her yeah by the time they got back
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  I'd be like I don't want it anymore so anyway
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  so basically I took that opportunity to just
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  do what I wanted for you know those nine months and then after she was born
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  I tried to do the trainer again so before kids I worked out in the mornings
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  but like I didn't have to be at work at 10 so I mean I worked out at like 7
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  30 or 8 so that's not you know that's not terrible so after she was born I was
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  like oh I can't do that because who's going to watch her because my husband's gone to work, you know.
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  So I sort of just didn't really do anything, tried to do a little bit on my own.
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  Then the place that I fell in love with that's closed now was opened up and
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  reached out to the girl about it and joined that.
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  And that just like was like life changing for me just
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  because I was in a season where I needed like that
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  community and those friends and so I
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  felt like I felt like I wanted
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  to work out so enjoyed that so then I also but then
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  like I could only do so much with working out I was like okay I got to do the
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  meals I got to get back on the eating right so I somebody somebody helped me
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  come up with like a meal plan it wasn't quite as bad as the one from the trainer
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  but still it was just like here's some things you can have a breakfast here's
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  some things for lunch, here's some dinner ideas.
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  Like, so it was more than one thing, but it was still just like,
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  here's like three, you know, and it was like, no carbs.
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  I mean, just no carbs. If we're going to eat carbs, it's going to be vegetables
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  and it's going to be early in the day. We're not having carbs at dinner.
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  And, and again, I did fine with it. And I, you know, I really started to see
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  a change in my body and I was happy with that, but I got burnt out on that.
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  But the, the good thing about that group was we had like a Facebook page and
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  so lots of recipes were shared. And so I just, I feel like I was just sort of
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  able to maintain from what I had learned.
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  And I, you know, log in in MyFitnessPal, I had learned how to track my calories.
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  And so I, you know, I was working out and just being mindful on my own of what I was eating.
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  And then, of course, like everything, I sort of just got burned out on that.
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  And then that was when...
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  I had several friends doing Lean Queen. And I was like, what is this Lean Queen
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  thing? I need to know about this.
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  So I checked it out. And you were, like, getting ready to have a challenge.
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  Because it was different. Yeah. It was different back then.
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  So I joined the challenge. Bump-a-da-da, COVID hits, you know. Yeah.
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  And so then I get pregnant again with a four-year-old.
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  So, I mean, I don't even know how long I was really, like, Like,
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  I feel like it wasn't very long before all that, like before I found I was pregnant
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  and sort of just fell off the wagon. Well, and I think it was like,
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  I feel like I remember, had COVID even hit?
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  Well, COVID hit. Yeah, because it was like.
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  So that challenge right when, like the challenge right before COVID hit,
• 20:55
  it was like the January-ish challenge.
• 20:58
  And then it was eight weeks, but then COVID hit. And I had planned to do another
• 21:02
  challenge, but instead I was just like, we're just going to extend this.
• 21:06
  That's kind of, yeah, that's what I got in on.
• 21:08
  Because I wasn't in it in January. It may have been like maybe April or something that I got in on.
• 21:13
  Yeah, because everybody was like in such a tizzy.
• 21:18
  And so I was like, we're just going to extend this and we'll change it.
• 21:21
  I swear I changed the Facebook group name to like COVID Survival or something like that.
• 21:27
  And we were all just like, who's drinking wine tonight? I, you know,
• 21:31
  like it was just a whole mess. Is it too early?
• 21:33
  Yeah, yeah. And so I think, yeah, I think that's kind of when you're up here.
• 21:37
  It's kind of just a support system. Yeah, yeah.
• 21:39
  Yeah. But I loved, I think, so this is so funny to me, but like the recipe that
• 21:45
  I remember hooking me was the Alice Springs chicken, which, you know,
• 21:47
  I'm the one I still always posted in the group because it's an oldie,
• 21:50
  but like I've always loved the Alice Springs from Outback.
• 21:54
  And so when I was like, oh, I'm sold. This girl's got an Alice Springs.
• 21:57
  And it tasted like the real thing. I mean, it was good enough to be a good substitute.
• 22:01
  So, you know, I love that. And I just...
• 22:06
  I love that y'all figured out my, I've always just done calories,
• 22:10
  you know, focused on calories.
• 22:11
  And so it was cool. Like I've seen, I had always seen what, if it fits your
• 22:14
  macros was the big thing back then. And so I remember being like, I don't know my macros.
• 22:19
  So y'all like you figured that out for me. I guess it was just you back then. I don't know that.
• 22:24
  They came on right around them, but yeah, it was just me back then.
• 22:27
  And so you would send us that.
• 22:29
  And so that was when I really got like, oh, okay, cool.
• 22:32
  Focused on the, I liked to focus on the macros. But then, of course,
• 22:36
  then I got pregnant and once again fell off because I was really sick with her,
• 22:40
  too. And I was like, I'm old. I'm sick.
• 22:43
  I just can't do all this. It was a totally unexpected thing. It's COVID.
• 22:47
  I mean, like all the things. All the things. So I did continue to work out during
• 22:53
  that time, but I didn't focus on, I mean, I ate.
• 22:56
  It was so bad. I actually could hardly eat anything. I remember my husband signed
• 22:58
  up for the HelloFresh or something like that and got meals and was cooking. I was so sick.
• 23:03
  I was like, I can't cook. And I remember him being in here one night cooking
• 23:05
  something and he was like chopping up green onions and got so sick.
• 23:09
  I was like, I still can't think about a green onion. It's like,
• 23:12
  you know, it's like one of those things.
• 23:15
  But so I stayed sick for a while. I was like with Ella Grace,
• 23:18
  I was nauseous, but never like actually threw up. But with Taylor,
• 23:21
  I was throwing up nonstop.
• 23:23
  So I finally felt I got to where I felt better and I continued to work out during that time. But I did not.
• 23:30
  I did not really. Nutrition was just, again, just whatever I could eat. Survival. Right. Yes.
• 23:35
  So then she was born in January and, you know, I was like, OK,
• 23:40
  I'm ready to get back on track.
• 23:42
  And so I started with a another program that was low carb, well,
• 23:49
  low carb intermittent fasting and low carb cycling. You started with faster way to fast.
• 23:55
  And I will tell you that it worked.
• 24:01
  Oh, it works. it hurts my brain to
• 24:04
  think about it was too much to think about like
• 24:07
  these days and sometimes just the fasting was
• 24:10
  i mean i've gone back and forth about saying i'm going to try to do
• 24:13
  that again because i know that stacy y'all had talked about on the
• 24:16
  the menopause and the perimenopause podcast that potentially some stuff has
• 24:20
  shown that intermittent fasting for women in menopause you know there may be
• 24:24
  some benefit but at the end of the day what i feel like is it's just there's
• 24:27
  less time for me to consume calories so that's why i'm like you know i'm just
• 24:31
  not And the fasting is a little more gentler,
• 24:34
  like menopause fasting is a little more gentler than how I've seen a faster weight.
• 24:39
  Because I think it was 16 hours. Yeah. Fasting.
• 24:42
  Like research shows that like 12 hours is sufficient.
• 24:45
  But like if you ate dinner at six and then woke up and ate breakfast at six.
• 24:49
  Had breakfast. Right. You know what I mean? Well, and that's,
• 24:51
  and that was the thing for me because we were eating...
• 24:54
  I mean, I can't come home and eat at 4 o'clock and be done. So,
• 24:57
  like, I wasn't getting to eat until lunchtime.
• 24:59
  And that was hard for me to stick to, especially on the weekends.
• 25:02
  Like, we love to go have breakfast.
• 25:04
  And so, it was like, I'm like, I can't have breakfast because,
• 25:07
  you know, I can't eat yet. It's still my fasting window.
• 25:10
  So, I mean. Like, too many. There was a lot of rules and a lot to keep up with. And I just, my brain.
• 25:16
  When you weren't fasting, there were certain days of low carb, right?
• 25:19
  Yes, where you couldn't eat. yeah you were eating high fats and
• 25:23
  low carbs like wild and that was my favorite
• 25:26
  day because I was eating bacon and yeah yeah like
• 25:29
  all the things that avocado wrapped with ham and
• 25:32
  turkey you know but it's like I laughed because Carly I think was talking about
• 25:36
  the the Atkins and I mean well wasn't that what Atkins was was eating all that
• 25:41
  low carb yeah yeah it's the same thing like tons of meat like I remember getting
• 25:45
  pizza and eating the cheese and the meat off of it but no bread So,
• 25:51
  yeah, so that would be a good day.
• 25:53
  But yeah, I do feel like, you know, again, we can find research and things for
• 26:00
  a lot of the diets and like why they work.
• 26:04
  Right. Like, I mean, it's a there is studies to back it. And so some for some
• 26:09
  like for some people, they're just like, well, that means this is the way.
• 26:12
  But the thing is, is there there are studies and research to back all different ways of weight loss.
• 26:18
  And like what it comes down to at the end of the day is just like making sure
• 26:21
  those those calories are are in check.
• 26:24
  And so a lot of the rules are meant they're put there.
• 26:28
  They're meant to make you have something to follow. So did you feel secure in your decisions?
• 26:36
  Right. Like, you know, when it was a low carb day, you couldn't go eat a loaf of bread.
• 26:40
  Right. Like you knew that. And so that made there's supposed to take the guesswork
• 26:43
  out of it. But it's crazy because like most of the most of the population of
• 26:48
  women that are trying to lose weight are our age.
• 26:52
  You know, they're like they're it's I mean, think about it.
• 26:56
  We start having weight struggles after our kids come along for most of us,
• 27:00
  you know, and then them kids don't be leaving anytime soon.
• 27:03
  You know, and then we get harder and they make you more busy.
• 27:07
  They take more of your time. I have a girlfriend who her daughter is headed
• 27:11
  into high school and she's just like, I live in my car. And I'm like, I believe you.
• 27:16
  And so it's just like, when that happens, our kids kind of take our, our schedule from us.
• 27:22
  And so the first thing to go is going to be the rules around the.
• 27:30
  Well, yes, there are studies out there that show all different ways work.
• 27:33
  It's about finding what you can realistically implement into your life.
• 27:37
  And we have some women in our program that are like, I can't even think about
• 27:41
  a meal plan for next week.
• 27:43
  You know what I mean? So how the heck are you going to think about your fasting,
• 27:46
  high carb, low carb exercise days? I mean, you know, like it's wild.
• 27:51
  So anyway. Yeah, it was. It was just a lot. And then during that same time is
• 27:55
  when I went through all this stuff. So I had a baby in January.
• 27:57
  My mom got sick in March. She passed away in July unexpectedly.
• 28:02
  My brother passed away in December unexpectedly. And then the next year in July, my dad passed away.
• 28:07
  And I just, I mean, I certainly couldn't be thinking about.
• 28:12
  No, absolutely not. So I'm trying, I think it was, so I was still working out
• 28:16
  during all that time because I needed to do something, but I just,
• 28:19
  it was survival mode. Because I mean, I just had a baby too.
• 28:22
  I mean, like, hello. I'm like, it's like my boss said, he was like,
• 28:24
  you've really been through, I mean, he's like, we're coming off of COVID.
• 28:27
  You're coming off of a pregnancy. you're coming off of a newborn then
• 28:30
  you've got a sick mom and then you know so I he when someone
• 28:33
  puts it to you I mean the psych ward well
• 28:36
  and I always say that you know that's what I say like when
• 28:39
  I found I was pregnant and I was 38 years old I was like wow god
• 28:42
  like why now but I mean she was what I
• 28:45
  woke up every day for because I mean my world was was self-sufficient yeah I
• 28:51
  mean obviously I still loved her but and she could have gotten up and gotten
• 28:54
  herself ready but I had a newborn she couldn't get herself up and get ready
• 28:57
  she had somebody had to get and take care of her so i mean she was definitely
• 29:01
  my reason for a long time for making me get up and you know,
• 29:05
  live and go yes move forward so man but like god i know i mean i'm always like
• 29:12
  why am i always why do i always act so surprised you know i mean it's always
• 29:15
  just works out and even not even just for us she was a light for everybody everybody
• 29:20
  mom died everybody like just she my dad she was a great distraction.
• 29:25
  Then when my brother died, my sister-in-law just, you know, I mean, like they.
• 29:28
  She just was just happy. How can you not be happy, you know,
• 29:32
  when you're around this crazy little toddler?
• 29:33
  But isn't it crazy like you tried for a second? Yes, yes.
• 29:37
  And then God's like, okay, now it's time because I got some things that,
• 29:41
  you know, we know. Yeah, exactly. I'm giving this to you at the right time.
• 29:45
  And that was like when we did her a baby dedication. I can't remember what the
• 29:48
  verse is right now, but it was a verse about God's timing, you know,
• 29:52
  and like everything has the right time. And she was, she came at the right time.
• 29:55
  So now I'm like pulling my hair out. I'm like, I'm too old for this.
• 30:00
  Like, you see those memes about like the grandmas at the graduation.
• 30:05
  That's going to be me. But anyway, I say she keeps me young.
• 30:08
  See, I was the same age difference between my siblings as she and Grace are.
• 30:14
  So it's funny because I was like an only child just about.
• 30:17
  But I feel like her and my older one are closer than I was.
• 30:22
  But I always say my siblings, I had a brother and a sister, and they were like
• 30:25
  16 months apart. to always say they were, they had each other.
• 30:30
  So when I came along, it was kind of like, I ruined the fun.
• 30:33
  And that's what they loved to tell me. Like that, you know, we used to do all
• 30:36
  kinds of stuff till you came along.
• 30:38
  But because Ella Grace didn't have anybody when Taylor came along.
• 30:42
  She, you know, they're close.
• 30:44
  I mean, they also, I would have never guessed that an eight year age difference
• 30:47
  would be, they would fight so much, but.
• 30:49
  That's hilarious. They do, it's terrible. So anyway, but, so yeah,
• 30:54
  she was definitely our little, our little, she got us through the times.
• 30:59
  She was a lot of what got us through it.
• 31:01
  But then after, like, I finally came up out of that season, I think that's when I joined.
• 31:06
  So that was in 2022. And I think I started back with you in 2023.
• 31:12
  And I've been there since. I mean, I've lost 20 pounds. I mean,
• 31:15
  some days it's, you know, it's like, I mean, it is, like you said,
• 31:20
  I tried just to show up, even if I'm not on track for that.
• 31:24
  I just, you know, the accountability and staying in touch, I come back to it.
• 31:29
  Like even when, because I go through seasons where I'm just, well, and it's hard.
• 31:34
  And so I just try to continue to at least stay accountable to my people and,
• 31:40
  and stay active in the group. And, you know, I know that if I'm not doing perfect
• 31:44
  right now, I will get back to it. So I think, I think.
• 31:49
  And I know sometimes when we don't like, okay, so we give you your IAR, right?
• 31:56
  And it tells you, if you eat this many calories, you'll lose about one or two
• 32:01
  or however many pounds per week, right?
• 32:03
  And so I think a lot of people, when they first start with us,
• 32:05
  they get that IAR and they think, okay, if I eat like this for 10 weeks,
• 32:10
  I'm going to lose 20 pounds or I'm going to lose 15 pounds or whatever that
• 32:14
  math multiplies out to be, right? And so it's so encouraging.
• 32:18
  And then life goes on, right? And seasons happen and vacations happen and kids
• 32:23
  get sick and all the things happen, right?
• 32:27
  And so then you're like, well, crap, I'm not on track to lose the 15 pounds
• 32:31
  or the 20 pounds by 10 weeks, right?
• 32:33
  And it can be discouraging. And so to me, I feel like this is the case with
• 32:38
  every single person that comes through this program.
• 32:41
  If you walk in, like if you sign up and you get your IR and you get started,
• 32:45
  okay, we are so proud of you. And we are so proud of those first few pounds you lose, right?
• 32:49
  But every single person is going to come to this crossroads where they have
• 32:52
  a week, a month, whatever, where it's like, well, crap,
• 32:56
  you know, it is not, it is not as if I expected it to be, you know,
• 33:01
  because I have had birthday parties or I have been sick or, and,
• 33:05
  you know, I've gotten off my game.
• 33:07
  And so it literally separates the women from the girls, like the girls,
• 33:12
  like they think, oh, well, I can't do this. I failed again, you know,
• 33:17
  all the things that, especially if they haven't plugged in with us,
• 33:20
  right. And really reached out.
• 33:22
  And then the women are the ones that really choose to take the step over the
• 33:26
  line and say, no, I believe in this.
• 33:29
  I know that if there is a weight loss plan, that's going to work, this is it, you know?
• 33:33
  And so I'm going to just continue to do the best that I can.
• 33:36
  And Grace, I know there's been times that you've been frustrated that it didn't
• 33:40
  come as fast or as, you know, whatever, but like, you are the women,
• 33:44
  you are the woman, you know what I mean?
• 33:46
  You stepped over the line and you said, even though I know every week can't
• 33:50
  be perfect, because no one's every week is going to be perfect.
• 33:55
  Like that's just the bottom line.
• 33:56
  It's whether we choose to accept that or not in, in the efforts that we're making. Right.
• 34:02
  And so you said like, I'm going to continue. And like, yes, you have gone through
• 34:06
  seasons where you lose consistently and then seasons when y'all go on a vacation
• 34:11
  for your anniversary and it's fabulous, right? Yes.
• 34:15
  Or you hurt your foot and like literally that's not like your routine is kind of thrown or you mean...
• 34:24
  All the things that you have been through since you started with us,
• 34:27
  but like, you've lost 20 pounds and you've kept 20 pounds off for at least a year, right?
• 34:34
  I mean, you're still losing, like, but you've not regained.
• 34:38
  And so like, sure, it may have been slower than you want or anticipated,
• 34:44
  but like, at least you're not back up 20 pounds looking for another weight loss
• 34:49
  program to lose those 20 again.
• 34:51
  You know, even in the, even in the moments that you, or the weeks that you aren't
• 34:55
  actively like tracking and on your game with weight loss, you've still maintained the loss.
• 35:01
  And so that tells me that, that the mindfulness is there.
• 35:05
  The mindset is there, you know, we all like, no one wants to track every single week.
• 35:12
  Like no one wants to be a hundred percent every single week,
• 35:14
  like it's just not feasible in our days.
• 35:17
  And so to me, I just like, that's why we asked you to be on here.
• 35:21
  You know what I mean? We have ladies like, right? Like we have ladies that have
• 35:24
  lost like 40 pounds in, you know, six months, but I'm like, we got to,
• 35:29
  we got to see how they fare out after this.
• 35:31
  We got to see once the, once they've taken their foot off the gas,
• 35:36
  how, how their mindset is, you know, like, are they going to regain or are they
• 35:41
  going to truly step into this forever way of life, you know?
• 35:47
  Right. I'm proud of you. You're a woman.
• 35:50
  You're a woman. You hear me roar. Yes. Well, and getting older has just,
• 35:55
  I mean, like you always hear it, but it is true. It is much harder. Much harder.
• 35:59
  I mean, just like I said, I used to could work out and just eat what I wanted.
• 36:03
  And then as I got older, but, you know, I had to work out and I could still
• 36:06
  eat what I wanted, you know, I could balance.
• 36:09
  Balance, but now I really do have to be mindful and.
• 36:13
  Just figure it out. That's just how it's going to be. And be patient with the
• 36:17
  hormones. Be patient with the schedule issues. Like, just be patient.
• 36:21
  Right, right, right. Well, like I said, I just come back to it.
• 36:24
  I mean, even when I, like after we had our anniversary, and then like,
• 36:28
  I feel like then it was like, right after that was like my husband's birthday.
• 36:30
  And then right after that was Thanksgiving. And then right after that was Christmas.
• 36:33
  And then everybody starts back in January. Well, my four-year-old's birthday
• 36:37
  is January the 6th. And mine's January 15th.
• 36:40
  So I'm like, don't just forget it. I'm not even going to try until like the
• 36:42
  third week of January because I mean, I get, I get motivated and start and then
• 36:46
  here's all these birthdays and birthday parties.
• 36:49
  And so I said, you know what, I quit this year.
• 36:51
  I was like, I'm not going to put the pressure on myself for those first two
• 36:53
  weeks to, because I just know, you know, then I'll just be frustrated because
• 36:57
  I mess up on my birthday or whatever and her birthday party and all that.
• 37:01
  So anyway, here I am trying to get my new years, new year, new me,
• 37:06
  right? Did you lose today? Did I see?
• 37:09
  I haven't posted. No, I didn't lose today. But, you know, I started,
• 37:12
  this was my first week full back at the gym.
• 37:14
  So I sort of figured, because last week I went twice, but I was so sore I could barely walk.
• 37:21
  And then this week I went four days. And so I thought that was probably good.
• 37:25
  You got some muscle swelling out. Because I'm readjusting to all that.
• 37:30
  Okay. So I do want to ask, if you had to come up with one thing,
• 37:37
  what is your favorite thing about Perfect Fit?
• 37:41
  Um, definitely for me, it's the community.
• 37:45
  Um, I just love, it's like I said, with the gyms, found the gym and that was my community.
• 37:51
  And then I never knew that there was a community that existed with weight loss.
• 37:56
  And then like, I started with perfect fit and I was like, well,
• 37:59
  this is like the nutrition side or the nutrition version of my gym group, you know? And so it's.
• 38:08
  Keep me accountable. And that like yesterday I made a post because I came up
• 38:12
  from work and I was like eating the house down because I'm so hungry.
• 38:15
  And I love that I have the resource to go, Hey, y'all, here's what's going on with me.
• 38:19
  What do y'all and every, and you always know there's going to be somebody else
• 38:22
  that's been through is going through the same thing, you know,
• 38:25
  that has a suggestion or has been through and has advice.
• 38:28
  And so I think for me, that's it. And like, I mean, just you and Stacey are great.
• 38:32
  And you're just, you're, I don't know, you just, it's
• 38:35
  definitely the people in the community for me that keeps me coming
• 38:38
  back you know because like at this point with
• 38:41
  the recipes and stuff I was like I probably could know enough
• 38:44
  recipes to do it you know do what
• 38:47
  I'm doing on my own right but I wouldn't have the I wouldn't have y'all the
• 38:52
  support yeah absolutely and then and then just the knowledge that if there is
• 38:56
  something that I'm not that I need to know or that I need help with I can talk
• 39:00
  to your Stacey and you can say okay well here you You know, this may be what's going on.
• 39:04
  So, yeah, that's 100% it for me. That's our favorite part, too.
• 39:09
  You know, we love to troubleshoot and see the end result, you know?
• 39:14
  Yeah. Okay. So let's move into, did you bring questions for me?
• 39:21
  Okay. Well, I've got yours. Are you ready?
• 39:24
  This is the part I'm the most nervous about because surprise. Yes, I'm ready, though.
• 39:31
  Well, I think one of these questions you've probably already answered in the
• 39:36
  thing. So, yeah, I wouldn't be nervous. Okay.
• 39:38
  You want to go first or you want me to go first? Yeah, I'll go first.
• 39:41
  Okay. So, I'm just curious.
• 39:43
  Do you do any of the Enneagram stuff?
• 39:47
  Yes. Like, I want to know what your Enneagram number is. I want you to guess
• 39:50
  what my Enneagram number is.
• 39:52
  Oh, gosh. I don't know if I know everybody else's numbers enough to know what to guess.
• 39:56
  I know mine and I know all about me.
• 40:00
  But I don't think I know enough of that. I need to do study the other numbers
• 40:03
  more. I don't think you're the same as me. I'm an Enneagram 3.
• 40:08
  Okay. Okay. So what's the 3? Like the Achiever. Oh, yeah.
• 40:11
  And then I'm a Wing 2, which is like, what is it? They like to serve.
• 40:17
  You know, so I'm, I think that sums me up in a nutshell.
• 40:22
  Well, and I've always wondered, like after I've wondered, I was like,
• 40:25
  I wonder if she does Enneagram. And I wonder, have you ever like researched,
• 40:29
  does Enneagram play into nutrition or?
• 40:32
  Yes, I have listened to this podcast and a client actually sent it to me.
• 40:36
  I will send it to you. I'd love to just know how it like correlates.
• 40:40
  In fact, geeked out on this podcast so hard that I was like,
• 40:44
  I need to like, you know, create some materials for my girls to like understand because it does it.
• 40:49
  It, it changes how you approach like your,
• 40:55
  for us, it'd be like your action steps, you know, like how you approach them,
• 40:58
  you know, are you going to think about them all day because you're like a creative
• 41:02
  or are you going to like dive headfirst into too many because you're like a
• 41:07
  three, like you're a doer, you know what I mean?
• 41:09
  So I'll have to send you that. But yes, I'm a three and I don't know,
• 41:12
  they say this about every Enneagram, but like, I hate that I'm a three,
• 41:16
  You know, like you hate a certain number.
• 41:20
  But if you were to read about all of them, like threes are...
• 41:25
  I don't know. To me, I feel like if you are an unhealthy three, it's a very unhealthy.
• 41:30
  You know, like the mean, angry CEOs, you know, are threes. They're just unhealthy
• 41:35
  threes. You know what I mean? Right.
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  What are you? I'm a nine. So I'm like the people pleaser or the peacemaker.
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  Yes. Don't like conflict.
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  Like, I mean, I am textbook nine. And I think I'm a wing one because I'm definitely not an eight.
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  Yeah. but I mean I see everything that
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  comes up on Instagram little you know things about like oh
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  you're scared what was it like a haunted house
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  for an Enneagram 9 and it's like somebody texting you and saying we need to
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  talk you know or like getting a voicemail call me back I just like and I always
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  remember like growing up like
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  with my like in my house like if people were like having disagreements.
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  Can we all just get along? You know, I was, I've always been that way.
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  And I was like, so when I found out that was my newsroom, I was like, that's definitely me.
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  So one of my very good friends is a nine and she's just always like trying to like make things work.
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  And I'm like, what would happen if you just like didn't, you know what I mean?
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  Like screw them all. Let's just, you know, whatever.
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  Oh no, that's no, that doesn't happen. I mean, I don't understand.
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  That's all a thing this morning on Instagram that was like, I think I'm going
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  to stand up for myself. I feel like I can stand up for myself.
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  I'm not there yet, but I might be eventually able to stand up for myself.
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  So, I mean, it is terrible. It is like an unhealthy, you know,
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  there is definitely unhealthy stuff about it.
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  But you're also like a good listener and, you know, a problem solver and you're
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  sensitive to other people and things like that.
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  You know, but yeah, I'm a nine. Okay.
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  My first question for you is, how often do you eat pizza? Oh, gosh.
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  I mean, sometimes once a week, we like pizza and I'm going to eat a good,
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  I mean, I'm not even going to try to have like a healthy pizza.
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  If I'm going to eat pizza, I'm going to eat pizza and I'll, and,
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  It may be that we just get a Little Caesars and pick one up.
• 43:32
  It's so easy to get and grab and bring home, you know, like, and it's quick dinner.
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  Of course, my oldest doesn't like pizza. Oh, no. She doesn't like pizza.
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  And then the four-year-old likes cheese pizza with no spicy on it.
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  So, but, yeah, I mean, I would say probably once a week.
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  I also love Sam's slash Costco pizza. Yeah, yeah.
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  At the food snack bar thing, you know? Yeah.
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  Well, one piece is like enough to have their mouth open. So we share it.
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  Yeah, we can get it and share it. But yes, I love pizza.
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  Okay. Next question for me. Okay.
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  Do you have like, so this is kind of funny.
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  Like, do you have a show or like a movie or something that's like a comfort for you?
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  Like if you're like just wanting to watch something that feels good and like
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  that you go back to? A hundred percent.
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  What? It's The Lost Kitchen.
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  I've talked about this before. Oh, yeah, yeah, I guess. I'm obsessed with her.
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  Like, I want to go to Maine.
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  I want, I mean, so she, basically, she's in Maine. She locally sources a lot of her food.
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  And on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights in the summer,
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  because it's so cold there, like, it has to be, like, late spring all the way
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  to early fall. That's her season.
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  She invites people in, and she cooks a meal from, like, from scratch,
• 44:55
  top to bottom. them. You get all these different courses, but it's like a really intimate...
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  Thing like it's an experience it's not just food and.
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  So to get a spot you have
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  to send in a postcard oh gosh yeah
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  like you send in a postcard and they get like thousands of
• 45:14
  postcards and you know there's not thousands of spots and then
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  they call you and like tell you you know you got a spot and so
• 45:20
  i'm just i send my postcard how many times have you sent do
• 45:23
  you send it at the beginning of the season or something yes there's i haven't
• 45:26
  checked their website yet but it's usually in April they like
• 45:30
  there's a window it's like a week's window that you
• 45:33
  send your postcard you cannot send more than one like
• 45:37
  it can't or they'll disqualify you they say or is
• 45:40
  it a lottery like random or yes yeah it's a
• 45:43
  lottery and so it doesn't matter what you say you're like okay
• 45:46
  but like I do feel like if you get a unique like
• 45:50
  if you send a unique postcard I feel like it might attract attention
• 45:53
  I don't know yeah one year we sent one with a picture
• 45:56
  of my little sister on the front when she was a baby like we've just
• 45:58
  we are serious yeah but how
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  many spots do you get just is it just like for two
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  or i think they're flexible like i'm prayerful
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  if i ever get a call that i can say six because
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  i want jess and then my sisters and their husbands to go
• 46:13
  yeah um trip to maine would be fabulous oh
• 46:16
  my gosh i mean but like her show is just like
• 46:19
  she shows you how she goes out and gets
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  oysters from a locally so we're like i
• 46:26
  mean all kinds of different orchards and farms and
• 46:29
  like it's just so my jam and so comforting to.
• 46:32
  Me well here's how i've been the 2025 is going to be your year
• 46:35
  right for me yeah i'm like i really i will drop everything like that y'all sorry
• 46:40
  a middle of challenge oh well stacy can handle this because i'm taking the other
• 46:44
  people that work with us so yeah yeah i love it yeah that's cool so that's fun though.
• 46:53
  So it's a reality show. So you watch the show about like her,
• 46:56
  how she gets it and how she does it. Yeah. Yeah.
• 46:59
  Cool. It's on Magnolia Network. Yeah. I was going to ask you what I said.
• 47:03
  Oh, Magnolia. Okay. Your next question is what is the best advice you have ever received?
• 47:13
  That's really hard. Think about it for a minute. Yeah.
• 47:18
  I mean, I'm sure there's like something great that I've gotten advice-wise that,
• 47:22
  I mean, I just, I feel like probably, well, I'll tell you one thing that I go
• 47:27
  back to over and over is that, and this is like to do with work and it could
• 47:31
  be with anything really,
• 47:32
  but like my dad always told me to make myself indispensable.
• 47:36
  So like make yourself be somebody that like, if you were to go away,
• 47:42
  you know, you'd be noticed that you were gone.
• 47:45
  And I mean, he was referring to it in the work, but I mean, I think he could
• 47:49
  probably, you know, make that in anything.
• 47:52
  So I think that's a good, you know, I think that's good, good advice for people.
• 47:58
  Just like, you know, make it, make yourself, people, make people,
• 48:02
  like when you die, make, you want people to miss you and, you know,
• 48:07
  notice that you're gone.
• 48:08
  So, yeah, that was a life well lived.
• 48:11
  Yeah, exactly. And that was definitely like, I mean, I'm sure I've probably
• 48:13
  gotten even some other advice, but that's just something that's always stuck in my brain.
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  I remember him telling me that when I very first got out of college and started
• 48:19
  working and it's just always stuck with me. So, yeah, I love it.
• 48:23
  Okay, last, last one for me. okay do
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  you have a karaoke song oh my
• 48:29
  gosh like carly asked this too
• 48:32
  oh she did yeah yeah i missed that
• 48:35
  did i did it was it on the podcast and i didn't hear it it was at the very end
• 48:39
  so yeah i didn't get to that yet uh i mean i i told her anything 90s country
• 48:45
  like reba or garth like that's always what i'm gonna see yeah fancy that's what
• 48:49
  i said yeah yeah yeah that's my jam And like, yeah,
• 48:53
  I sometimes will put that that kind of music on in the car with my kids.
• 48:56
  And I love listening to it. I know. And everybody's like, oh, mom.
• 49:01
  Same. OK, your last one is what is your favorite, which I think this is one
• 49:06
  I think you answered. What is your favorite perfect fit recipe?
• 49:10
  If it's not Alice Springs chicken. Yeah, I love. That probably is my favorite. I really like.
• 49:18
  Well, I tell you what. I haven't made it again since I made it.
• 49:20
  But I need to make it now. Is the cowboy caviar was so good. Oh, yeah.
• 49:26
  It is so good. Well, just into keep. I tell you, though. I know what it is. It's the fancy me.
• 49:31
  The chicken salad. Is it fancy chicken salad? I make that.
• 49:34
  I mean, because my husband likes chicken salad, too. Like he,
• 49:37
  it's easy to keep in the refrigerator for people to grab crackers and some chicken salad.
• 49:42
  So that's the one, especially in the summer, I keep that in the refrigerator,
• 49:45
  but I need to make that and the cowboy caviar because like, I'm all about like,
• 49:48
  I'm an appetizer, like, you know, small bites kind of person more than here's
• 49:53
  a big heavy meal like you and your, your charcuterie boards, you know, that's yeah.
• 49:57
  Same kind of, same kind of concept, but yes, the chicken salad is probably,
• 50:01
  I bet I've made the chicken salad the most.
• 50:04
  Okay. I love that. I really do. Somebody asked me to first. I know I saw where
• 50:09
  they said to make another one.
• 50:11
  I'm really thinking on that. Like I'm thinking.
• 50:13
  Well, we love from Chicken Side Chick also the, I think it's Lauren's lemon basil.
• 50:19
  And so I have found online a copycat of that and I've tried to do what I learned
• 50:24
  in PFN and do like half mayonnaise and half Greek yogurt or half,
• 50:29
  you know, replace some of the stuff.
• 50:31
  And, and I, I mean, it's good, but yeah, I just. That flavor,
• 50:36
  that lemon basil flavor is a really good one too.
• 50:39
  That sounds good. I'll have to get that and try it. And I saw where they said
• 50:42
  spicy, which I think I had a spicy from somebody brought.
• 50:45
  I would have never thought I would like spicy chicken salad,
• 50:47
  but it was really good. So I just love chicken salad and pimento cheese.
• 50:51
  I love like, you know, that's my beach, my beach meal. Some pimento cheese and
• 50:54
  chicken salad and some fruit. Have you tried the PFM pimento cheese?
• 50:58
  Do you have a pimento cheese recipe? Yes, it's the early one.
• 51:01
  It's the earlier one. I just buy the palmettos, you know, already made.
• 51:06
  But I mean, homemade is the best. So I need to go back and look at that. But yes.
• 51:12
  Okay. Well, I'm so glad you hopped on with us today. I know. It's fun.
• 51:18
  Real. I think for anything, the reason I wanted to do this is just for other
• 51:23
  people to hear that, like, our members are like real life humans. They're not perfect.
• 51:28
  They're not like, this is my exact schedule. I eat and, you know,
• 51:31
  exercise every week, you know, like we're all just kind of a hot mess trying to survive, right?
• 51:36
  Yes. But anything else before we hop off of here?
• 51:40
  I don't think so. All right. Well, Grace, thank you so much for hopping on.
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