Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / You Are BOTH Slaves To Your Hormones!
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- 0:06Hi everybody. And welcome to the doctors.
- 0:08Psych mom show. Today we're going to be talking
- 0:10about how both men and women are really slaves to their hormones
- 0:14and men. Get a bad rap for this when
- 0:16women are possibly even worse because there's more variation.
- 0:20So we will discuss that. As soon as I do tell you to
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- 1:28Okay? So what are we really?
- 1:32What do women mean when they say that a man is acting like an
- 1:34animal Or he's like driven by his hormones or something, they
- 1:39mean to minimize the effect of his emotions and his deeper
- 1:44feelings and his his lofty. Ur self on like whether he wants
- 1:49to have sex but like women are. So susceptible to hormonal
- 1:54changes. I mean, if you are a woman and
- 1:57you don't think that then you've not really been paying
- 2:00attention, because unless you're on hormonal, e mediated birth.
- 2:03Control you You know, taking the pill then you really don't
- 2:08ovulate and menstruate in the same ways.
- 2:10So you don't have, you don't feel that variation and if
- 2:14you're very, very young, then you just kind of our how you
- 2:18are. But even let's say you are on
- 2:20birth control but you've at least been pregnant before, or
- 2:24nursing or aged you know, like from your 20s to your 30s or
- 2:29anything, had any change. Then it's so obvious that there
- 2:34is A big component of biology on sex drive, you know.
- 2:38And I mean for people to say that that this isn't real for
- 2:43women, it's just crazy. And over the course of the
- 2:46menstrual cycle, I point this out in numerous podcasts about
- 2:50and posts about ovulation and biology.
- 2:52I have one about female biology Across the Life Span over the
- 2:56course of your menstrual cycle. You basically want to have sex
- 2:59more and more and more from day one of your cycle, which is the
- 3:03first day of your period until Ovulation, which is around the
- 3:0614th day. These are averages, and then
- 3:09after you ovulate, your body can't make a baby, so it doesn't
- 3:12want to have sex. I mean, the reason that we're on
- 3:14this planet aside from whatever your spiritual leanings are the
- 3:19evolutionary reason we're on, this planet is to pass down our
- 3:21genetic material. That is the evolutionary reason
- 3:24behind it. And it's why we have sex drives
- 3:27when we do and why we want to have sex.
- 3:28When we do, women have no reason to want to have sex when they
- 3:32are not able to have a baby, you know, And that's why they
- 3:36frequently don't have sex drive after menopause because they
- 3:40cannot have a baby anymore. And of course there's other
- 3:44components and I'll talk about those but hormones are huge and
- 3:48anybody who's breastfed that basically has the impact on the
- 3:52body of menopause. Because again, your body
- 3:54shouldn't make a baby, a can get pregnant when you're
- 3:57breastfeeding, but it isn't a good idea because when you get
- 4:01pregnant, usually your milk supply goes down.
- 4:03So that isn't good for the Existing baby.
- 4:06So it's a very evolutionarily driven, right?
- 4:10So if you got four, if you're nursing a baby, then you get
- 4:13pregnant, this happened to me. Your, your milk dries up pretty
- 4:17much right away for a lot of women.
- 4:20And therefore if you don't have a formula because you're in a
- 4:24world before formula and you don't have a breast pump and
- 4:27frozen milk because you're in a world before that which is the
- 4:30world that we were, you know, evolutionarily created for then
- 4:34your baby dies. So, that's not good, right?
- 4:37So, your body doesn't want to necessarily to get pregnant
- 4:40while you're nursing. So, therefore, your sex drive
- 4:42isn't. I, and your period doesn't even
- 4:44come back as long as your nursing overnight.
- 4:46Usually, for a lot of women, they don't get their period
- 4:49until they stop with the overnight, feedings when they
- 4:51breastfeed why again, because I just told you why?
- 4:54Because your body knows it has a very young baby that is nursing
- 4:58all night. So therefore, it really wouldn't
- 5:01be good for that baby. If you got pregnant again, So,
- 5:05and it's the same thing. After you ovulate, it's like a
- 5:09microcosm of that, every single month.
- 5:11If you're not on hormonal birth control, if you cannot have a
- 5:15baby because your egg is gone, your egg dropped.
- 5:18There was no sperm to fertilize it, so you're not getting
- 5:20pregnant this month. So you're going to get your
- 5:22period, then what's the point of you having sex?
- 5:24There's no point evolutionarily biologically because you can get
- 5:29pregnant. So that's why most women.
- 5:30If they are very attuned to their cycle they will see.
- 5:33They really Want sex in a couple days leading up to ovulation and
- 5:37then they really don't after that.
- 5:39And they really really don't leading up to their period.
- 5:43Although there is a the day right before your period.
- 5:46There's like some hormonal Jumper, whatever that a that a
- 5:49lot of women do feel like they want to basically have every
- 5:53sensation so they want to eat a lot.
- 5:55They want to have sex. They want like a whole bunch of
- 5:57stuff like right away but this is you know like a fluke thing
- 6:02and some women don't wanna have sex at all the day before their
- 6:04period. But most women do when they
- 6:06ovulate, that's like, even the guys that come in and they're
- 6:08like, we only have sex once a month, I listened to your advice
- 6:11and I found out that it's when she ovulates, you know, I mean
- 6:13this is it's rare for a guy to be like we only have sex once a
- 6:17month and, you know, it's it's the date.
- 6:19You know, the three days before her period know, is it three
- 6:22days before when she ovulate? So women are super hormonally
- 6:26driven. And what do I talk about all the
- 6:27time? The women's libido decrease with
- 6:30in monogamy and this is hormonally driven as well,
- 6:33because the the Graduation or limerence, stage lasts until you
- 6:38nurse and wean your baby. So it's like one and a half to
- 6:41three years. You meet the guy in theory and
- 6:45caveman times you get pregnant pretty soon.
- 6:47You're pregnant for like the nine months.
- 6:50Then you nurse the baby for another year and then you don't
- 6:52need the guy anymore to increase.
- 6:54The genetic diversity of the species would be ideal if then
- 6:56you moved on to a different map but people don't do that because
- 7:00of monogamy and all of our lofty ideas about being close and And
- 7:04being in love and everything that came post caveman times.
- 7:07Although maybe they were in love to, I don't know, nobody does.
- 7:10So, the point here, is that the monogamy itself and the decrease
- 7:16in women's libido, after that is a figment of hormones and
- 7:20biology. So, is every way that you feel
- 7:22over the course of your menstrual cycle and when nursing
- 7:25and when pregnant and after menopause.
- 7:29So and pre pre menarche, you know, I've been like this is why
- 7:33kids don't Have a sex drive, you know, because there's no need.
- 7:37They can't get pregnant. They get the pregnant one
- 7:39another. So basically when you are your
- 7:42most young and fertile, you have your highest sex drive and
- 7:45that's how that goes. And as I've said, numerous
- 7:48times, just as an aside because somebody's going to be like,
- 7:51I've lost, you know, that women in their 40s.
- 7:53No women in their forties are more confident but it's not like
- 7:56their bodies work better and have more orgasms unless it's,
- 8:01you know, cognitively mediated then a woman in her full Flush
- 8:04of fertility, a younger woman. So, okay.
- 8:08So then what are the variables that can layer upon that?
- 8:12Because of course, I'm not just telling you to have sex with
- 8:14your husband once a month when you're ovulating obviously not.
- 8:16So I talked frequently about responsive desire.
- 8:19Responsive desire. Is when you understand that
- 8:22you're not going to just be feeling desire all the time.
- 8:24It's super hormonal e driven, just like your husband has a
- 8:27whole bunch of testosterone, so he wants to have sex all the
- 8:30time. Okay.
- 8:31Cool. You don't.
- 8:32So you don't want to have sex all the time.
- 8:34Your body does is wants to have sex once a month, when you would
- 8:37be able to make a baby, but yet you want to be in a relationship
- 8:41together, okay? So then, what are you going to
- 8:43do? Well, you can understand how
- 8:46biology works on both ends and you can open yourself up to the
- 8:51idea of response of desire and putting yourself into a
- 8:53situation where you try to start having sex with, in a loving
- 8:59relationship. When the guy is like, being a
- 9:01good guy generally, you know, and not it.
- 9:04If you hate him and want to leave him, you know, because
- 9:07people say all this stuff like, well, how does responsive desire
- 9:10work? If you're in an abusive
- 9:11relationship, I'm not talking to people in abusive relationships,
- 9:15you know? Like that.
- 9:16Just is not what I want addressing.
- 9:18I'm addressing people, the majority of the podcast
- 9:20listeners are men trying to work on their relationship.
- 9:23And I'm talking to people who are not in abusive
- 9:25relationships, who are in relationships, that struggle on
- 9:29both ends because both people are not perfect human beings and
- 9:32so they have to actually Try to put some effort in to make their
- 9:36marriage work. IE the majority of married
- 9:40couples right? So in this case a woman would
- 9:43say. Yeah.
- 9:43My hormones are not going to be helping me out at other times of
- 9:46the month, particularly in the latter half of my menstrual
- 9:49cycle, bought to be a team player and to be close and
- 9:55romantic with somebody who is also trying on his end, I am
- 9:58going to try to open myself up to the idea of getting into the
- 10:02mood at times where my hormones are not helping.
- 10:04Me out. And since, you know, I blame so
- 10:06much of my husband acting like an animal and just being driven
- 10:09by his dick and everything. Since I've said that he's so
- 10:11driven by hormones and everything.
- 10:13Maybe I could also say, man. I am too, you know, and I don't
- 10:17like that. You are so like, like so like
- 10:22the the guys horny all the time. Most women take that as they
- 10:27take it personally almost there. Like, well man doesn't even
- 10:29matter if we're getting along or not, because he's horny.
- 10:32Well, you know what? When you're ovulating, it kind
- 10:34of doesn't matter. After getting along or not.
- 10:35Because a lot of couples, I see like every other week.
- 10:39And that means that with some women that I see every other
- 10:43week I'm at ovulation and menstruation and I'll tell you
- 10:46every other time I see them, they act a lot happier with
- 10:49their husbands, like, literally because it's so biologically
- 10:53mediated. So the woman has the, the same
- 10:56Rose Colored Glasses that your husband has due to his
- 10:58testosterone the same as he doesn't give a shit if you're
- 11:01fighting and he'll still want to have sex.
- 11:03That's what women have. Like once a month.
- 11:06So, you know, like the non flattering way to look at it men
- 11:10like to say, oh, she's so irritable.
- 11:11She's mad at me for everything when she's about to get her
- 11:13period, it doesn't have to do anything with me.
- 11:16The other way of looking at it, is your irritating all the time
- 11:20but when she's ovulating, she has her rose colored glasses on
- 11:24and she doesn't mind. So, you know, it may be that as
- 11:27well. But the point being that when
- 11:30you're not helped out by The Rosy, Glow of ovulation, Shin
- 11:35then you still don't want to have no physical relationship
- 11:38because that's not fair or or helpful to anything to the
- 11:42overall closeness of the relationship.
- 11:44And it's certainly not being a team player.
- 11:46So, in those cases is when you learn about responsive desire,
- 11:50meaning that you got to actually try to have sex to get in the
- 11:53mood. Does that always work?
- 11:55No. But for a lot of women if they
- 11:57start kissing and foreplay and the guys being romantic, then
- 12:00they will get in the mood because their bodies do respond.
- 12:04Everything isn't only due to hormones, but hormones have a
- 12:07huge impact. Our biological self has a huge
- 12:11impact. If if you don't think that as I
- 12:14mean, I don't know what to say. If you don't think it after like
- 12:17three hundred plus podcast episodes, but think about when
- 12:20you're sick, your body doesn't want to have sex when you're
- 12:22sick. Because if you win, you used it.
- 12:24When people used to get sick, you should be a lot worse.
- 12:27There was not penicillin there was not medication if you're
- 12:30about to die, why should you get pregnant, right?
- 12:33So you're not going to Any sex drive then plus your body needs
- 12:37all of its resources, not for having sex but forgetting you
- 12:41better. So most people do not have a sex
- 12:43drive when they have the flu and that's men and women.
- 12:46So yes, of course, biology massively impact, sex drive, you
- 12:51know. And this is, you know, by the
- 12:54way to all the men that think they're going to have the same
- 12:56sex drive with their 60th, they have now or that they have the
- 12:59same sex drive at 40 that they had a 20.
- 13:01No you don't you're an aging mammal.
- 13:04Just like your wife, but you have a hell of a lot more
- 13:06testosterone. So you got a more of a margin of
- 13:09error, but when if you were, let me tell you to the men that I
- 13:14deal with that come in in their 40s and 50s.
- 13:16They don't have as much of that Rosy Glow of testosterone that
- 13:19makes them want to have sex with their wives, no matter what.
- 13:21And I have a podcast on, you know, like basically like the
- 13:26men don't want to have sex with women even if they're hot, if
- 13:29the woman is also really annoying and their marriage
- 13:32sucks, and I don't remember what the title was.
- 13:34But Something like that and especially as men get older they
- 13:38don't have such a surfeit of testosterone that it can you
- 13:41know, blind them to the fact that they have like ongoing
- 13:44horrible marriages. And so that is one of the reason
- 13:48that men have quote low libido is there in like a real shitty
- 13:52marriage, you know, and when they were 20 they'd be able to
- 13:54get it up anyway but it's hard to get it up for somebody who
- 13:57hates you when you do not have like more testosterone than
- 14:01could kill a horse so you know Time Marches On Jean and affects
- 14:05everybody. So in the situation where you're
- 14:07both human mammals and you both have hormones and biological you
- 14:14know, impacts of them on your sex drive.
- 14:17What should you do? You should try empathy.
- 14:20And to understand one another's perspective to understand both
- 14:24biology and the other one's emotions and how they're feeling
- 14:27at any given moment, physically and emotionally would be the
- 14:29goal to be attuned to your partner and within that to try
- 14:34To get yourselves into the mood, for whatever you may not be in
- 14:38the mood for that, your partner liked.
- 14:39Whether that is sex or whether that's romance, you know?
- 14:43Because just as if a man said to me, you know, I don't really
- 14:46feel like it. I'm feeling the mood this month
- 14:49to go on date night. I feel like the fuck is I
- 14:52wasting your money? Talking to me, you got to be
- 14:54spit, you got to be doing the things I tell you to do.
- 14:56And one of them is her ass want to go on date night so I don't
- 14:59give a shit if you're in the mood to go on denied.
- 15:01Who cares, you know, like do it like maybe.
- 15:04That was The Missing Link. Maybe if you go on date night,
- 15:07like she's been begging you to do, then everything's gonna
- 15:09transform, you'll never know unless you try and it's the
- 15:12exact same thing for women that are like, I'm not in the mood to
- 15:15have sex like, okay, you know, what are you in the mood to do
- 15:19as a wife and a mother? Like, you know, is your whole
- 15:22day traipsing through like a meadow of flowers, probably not.
- 15:26But, you know, we do shit for those that we love and most of
- 15:30the time when you try, you get into the mood just in case He
- 15:34missed every single other thing I ever said on this topic, what
- 15:38happens if you try to get in the mood and you don't, and you
- 15:41really aren't in the mood, and you're really unhappy and you
- 15:44don't feel close, should you force yourself through a
- 15:47horrible Encounter of cold and meaningless sex that your body
- 15:52isn't responding to know? Oh my god.
- 15:54When have I said that what you should try to do as I've said
- 15:58Infinity X? Plus one now is to get yourself
- 16:01into the mood, if it fails it fails Tails.
- 16:04I don't know any guys who are going to be like, no, you're
- 16:07laying there saying. I have tried to kiss you for 10
- 16:10minutes or 20 minutes and it's not getting anywhere and I am
- 16:14exhausted. I want to go to sleep and
- 16:15they're going to be like, no, no way.
- 16:18I don't agree. We're having sex.
- 16:20I mean, know, most of the guys I talked to Kim barely even
- 16:24initiate with their wives are so terrified to be thought of as a
- 16:27creep, you know, or some sort of like, like horrible person.
- 16:32So yeah, what you got to do is Try the same thing as if your
- 16:36husband really tried to go on date night.
- 16:39And you know what, he just had this crazy fucking thing
- 16:42happening at work. And his phone is blowing up and
- 16:44it's his boss and he just cannot get into the mood of date night.
- 16:48Would you say? No, we have to like, you know,
- 16:50do the hundred date night questions from dr.
- 16:53Psych mom. Now, no, you wouldn't.
- 16:54You be like, okay, let's go home because anybody who's are, you
- 16:57know, empathic human being and a team player of any sort will
- 17:03understand There's a big difference between somebody who
- 17:06tries to get into the mood and can't and somebody who doesn't
- 17:09even try to get into the mood. You can be the person who tries
- 17:12to get into the mood. I can't, you know, like that's
- 17:15your only human, you know. Like it's like at least you
- 17:18tried, but don't be the person that doesn't try, right?
- 17:21And an especially don't be the person that minimizes the impact
- 17:24of biology. And therefore, doesn't
- 17:26understand that there are times when they will have to try the
- 17:28week before your period, it may be effortless.
- 17:31It's not because your husband is so uniquely Charming at that
- 17:34moment. It's because you got ovulation
- 17:36goggles on, you know, and the week afterwards.
- 17:38It's not like his personality, just deteriorated, so massively.
- 17:42He's the same, dude, it's just your body.
- 17:45Can't make a baby with him. So your body is like, hell, do I
- 17:47have to listen to your jokes for?
- 17:49I want to go watch my show, you know, but that's biology.
- 17:52So don't blame him for his biology because you got your own
- 17:55biology and it's very impactful, especially if you've never
- 17:59really thought about it before. It can be fairly transformative
- 18:02to go forward and track. Back the impact of where you are
- 18:06in your cycle, on your sex drive.
- 18:07And by the way, if you are on hormonal birth control, I am not
- 18:10a medical doctor. Go discuss this with your
- 18:13provider certainly, but you know, it has an impact on on sex
- 18:18drive and I've worked with many women that have gotten off birth
- 18:20control and it had a higher sex drive hormonal birth control.
- 18:24And so they have other forms of birth control, you know like all
- 18:28the other ones including vasectomy for the guy and
- 18:33they're happier. Because they actually have a sex
- 18:36drive, and they certainly have a sex drive one time out of the
- 18:38month, whereas before, they had a sex drive, no times out of the
- 18:42month. And guys don't even research
- 18:44this because like, if you say to a guy who's older than like, I
- 18:47don't know, 20, would you rather that your wife has the sex drive
- 18:51of, you know, the doorknob and you don't have to wear a condom
- 18:54or that your wife really wants it at least a week out of the
- 18:58month and you have to wear a condom.
- 19:01Most of them are going to be like condom or you know what?
- 19:04What? Vasectomy, sounding better and
- 19:06better. I didn't want any more kids
- 19:07anyway. So you know, there's all of
- 19:10these things and also, of course, all the side effects of
- 19:13your other medications that you take like antidepressants
- 19:16etcetera, I have a podcast, titled other reasons your libido
- 19:19may be low. So I discuss all of those there.
- 19:23But anyway, the tldr is biology matters for both men and women
- 19:29and I hope that you got something out of this and I'll
- 19:32talk to you all soon. Please do subscribe.
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- 19:40Have a good day.