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The Psychology of Control, Ep 9. When Control Collapses · Inside The Consulting Room - Understanding the Child Behind the Behaviour

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  SPEAKER_00: Hello and welcome back.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is Kim Lee, Child and Adolescent Psychotherapist.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is episode nine of the series The Psychology of Control, which I've called the collapse, when the controlling system starts to fail.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_00: And this is really about what happens inside families.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when the unhealthy controls have been enacted and become part of the family script.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_00: Controlling systems often appear stable from the outside.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes for years, the family continues to function, the relationships continue existing, the routines continue, and thus the appearance survives.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yet, underneath, something else is happening.
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  SPEAKER_00: Pressure is building, contradictions are accumulating, children are adapting, and reality is being managed rather than faced.
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  SPEAKER_00: And eventually the system begins to strain under the weight of what it's trying to suppress.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because psychologically, control requires constant maintenance, constant adjustment, constant narrative management or distortion, constant emotional positioning.
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  SPEAKER_00: And no human system can sustain that indefinitely.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this episode is about the collapse, the moment when controlling systems begin losing their ability to hold reality together.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because however powerful psychological control may appear, it contains an inherent weakness.
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  SPEAKER_00: It depends upon distortion remaining intact, and eventually something disrupts that structure.
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  SPEAKER_00: A child starts speaking openly, a partner stops complying.
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  SPEAKER_00: Contradictions become impossible to deny, and external systems may become involved.
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  SPEAKER_00: The truth then emerges.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the entire emotional architecture begins to destabilize.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not through genuine emotional health, but through suppression, fear, silence, adaptation, guilt, ambiguity, avoidance, and emotional management.
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  SPEAKER_00: In other words, the system appears stable because everybody has unconsciously learned how to maintain it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Children adapt, partners suppress themselves, and truth remains unspoken.
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  SPEAKER_00: Collapse usually begins quietly, but not always.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not always with dramatic confrontation, but with some kind of recognition.
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  SPEAKER_00: And quite often there'll be symptomatic expressions of this, where, for example, a member of the family and quite often a child has episodes of some kind which are enlarged.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then what happens is the family adapts to these episodes without recognizing that there's a pattern, and that that pattern is trying to tell us something.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_00: And so someone inside the system begins noticing the contradictions, the confusion, the emotional cost, the manipulation, and the exhaustion of constant adaptation.
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  SPEAKER_00: And psychologically, this moment is dangerous to the controlling structure because once somebody can see the pattern clearly, they stop participating in it automatically.
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  SPEAKER_00: Very often the collapse will begin with children.
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  SPEAKER_00: The anxious child becomes symptomatic, the compliant child becomes angry, the silent child starts speaking, and the difficult child refuses further emotional accommodation.
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  SPEAKER_00: And suddenly the family can no longer protect all dysfunctions safely, and it can no longer project it onto one individual.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because this is what happens.
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  SPEAKER_00: When a child becomes symptomatic, everybody looks at the child.
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  SPEAKER_00: They don't look at themselves.
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  SPEAKER_00: Even when, in my experience, it is pointed out very specifically and from a very informed clinical position.
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  SPEAKER_00: What is happening here is a signal, and this is where it's going.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not all families take that guidance.
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  SPEAKER_00: Expose the system itself, and this is why controlling family structures frequently fear truth telling children.
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  SPEAKER_00: In fact, I have heard from some children that parents have said not to say.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't say this at school, because if you do, and so on.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here's something extremely important because when controlling systems begin failing, control often intensifies rather than decreases.
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  SPEAKER_00: Rather than actually facing and opening up, family systems tighten up.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's because the system experiences awareness or exposure as threat.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you may suddenly see increased guilt, increased narrative distortion, emotional collapse, blame shifting, intimidation, withdrawal, moral accusations or frantic attempts to restore the previous emotional order.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: But psychologically the system is trying to pull the person back into the old structure.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's not going to work anymore because many controlling systems survive precisely because they remain psychologically enclosed, but external reality disrupts that enclosure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Schools notice, friends notice, therapists notice, the police may become involved, and then safeguarding begins.
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  SPEAKER_00: Partners leave.
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  SPEAKER_00: Adult children gain perspective, and as a child becomes an adolescent, their capacity to make sense of what happens challenges the family norm.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now once external reality enters the system, the internal narrative becomes so much harder to maintain.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's because reality confrontation kicks in.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, it is not okay for your child to be behaving in this way.
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  SPEAKER_00: And actually, what it does is to raise concerns, not just about what is happening, but where this is going.
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  SPEAKER_00: And no, we can't deny that.
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  SPEAKER_00: We can't ignore it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is because controlling systems depend and rely heavily upon isolation and narrative control.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not from the inside, collapse rarely feels liberating initially, but it often feels terrifying because however dysfunctional the system was, it was still psychologically familiar.
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  SPEAKER_00: And human beings often cling to familiarity long before it becomes destructive.
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  SPEAKER_00: People emerging from collapsing, controlling family systems frequently experience confusion, guilt, grief, anxiety, derealization, emotional exhaustion, and profound uncertainty about identity itself because the emotional rules that they organized around themselves are no longer functioning.
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  SPEAKER_00: And for the controller during collapse, this is also psychologically revealing.
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  SPEAKER_00: When the system destabilizes, the controlling individual often experiences something very close to psychological panic, if not psychological panic, because control was never only about others.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was about regulating shame, fear, vulnerability, helplessness, fragmentation, and emotional dependency within themselves.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: And once control weakens, those underlying fears begin to surface.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_00: This is why collapse may provoke rage, desperation, victim positioning, self-destructive behavior, or intense attempts to regain the emotional authority.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: And one of the most misunderstood parts of controlling systems is why people sometimes return to them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Outsiders often assume, well, why would they go back?
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  SPEAKER_00: But psychologically the answer is quite simple.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because uncertainty can feel more frightening than dysfunction.
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  SPEAKER_00: Especially when somebody spent years organizing identity around adaptation, guilt, emotional responsibility, and the need to preserve attachment at all costs.
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  SPEAKER_00: It reminds me of when I began my career and I was working as a volunteer in a children's home, and I was a little boy who every Saturday morning would go to the end of the driveway with a member of staff with a bag packed, waiting for his father to come and collect him for the weekend.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_00: It never happened.
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  SPEAKER_00: His father never arrived.
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  SPEAKER_00: His father was somebody who had physically beaten this child, and this was long before he had safeguarding in place.
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  SPEAKER_00: And a member of staff would wait patiently with him and say, maybe next week.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the tragedy of this is that here was a child who was incredibly fearful and been damaged by his father, and yet there was something about that relationship which ignited and maintained the hope that his father would come and collect him, and the father who turned up would be like a real father.
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  SPEAKER_00: Psychological separation is what's required, and real separation begins internally before it becomes external.
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  SPEAKER_00: When the individual starts recognizing I can't keep sacrificing reality in order to preserve this system.
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  SPEAKER_00: That sentence alone marks a profound shift because the person begins prioritizing truth over false stability, reality over narrative, self-trust over emotional management.
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  SPEAKER_00: And once that process genuinely begins, the controlling structures often just can't survive in the same form.
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  SPEAKER_00: Healthy systems are not perfect because no family is perfect, no relationship is free from conflict.
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  SPEAKER_00: But healthy systems allow truth, repair, emotional differentiation, accountability, disagreement without annihilation, and psychological separateness.
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  SPEAKER_00: Control systems can't tolerate those things easily because control depends upon emotional compliance.
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  SPEAKER_00: And emotionally separate people become much harder to organize and manage.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_00: Perhaps the deepest tragedy of controlling systems is how much energy becomes consumed, preserving structures and illusions that are already collapsing.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: The pretending, the silence, the denial, the adaptation, the avoidance, the exhaustion of constantly managing reality.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: And yet, collapse is always is not always destruction.
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  SPEAKER_00: Collapse is the beginning of truth.
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  SPEAKER_00: There has to be crisis before change.
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  SPEAKER_00: It can be the beginning of differentiation, the beginning of psychological freedom.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because eventually every person inside a controlling system faces the same question.
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  SPEAKER_00: How much of yourself are you willing to lose in order to keep the structure intact?
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  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes the moment the system starts breaking apart is the moment somebody finally begins becoming psychologically real again.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: This view of family life isn't just about family life, it's about relationships.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: When there are controlling systems within a relationship, sometimes those controlling systems are subtle.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: But if it is the case that you are left feeling as if your self is shrinking, that your preoccupation with the needs of the other, that you have organized yourself around, if that feels familiar, well it's telling you something.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your instincts and your objective thinking, or your objective thinking actually goes out the window.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's your felt sense that is in conflict with your instincts.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: Very often what we do is we say, one more chance, or one day it will change.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or I'd like the person who I met to come back because I miss that person.
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  SPEAKER_00: What I have instead is somebody very different.
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  SPEAKER_00: But if I'm patient just for long enough, and that kind of denial eventually falls apart.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I've added something to this particular podcast, which is a song by Paul Simon called Everything Put Together Sooner or Later Falls Apart.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for listening.