Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / Be Missionary About Your Business: Prospect for Clients
Transcript
- 0:00Today on the podcast, we're going to look at why being a
- 0:04missionary and being a business person, roughly the same thing.
- 0:09And the reason why is because I connected with one of my
- 0:13classmates recently. We went to, we did our
- 0:16undergraduate together and in Obafeme at Wolowa University.
- 0:21And after that we lost touch like how most people do.
- 0:26So it's been a couple of decades.
- 0:28Actually, it's not that long. It's not.
- 0:30It's never up to three decades, but time is long.
- 0:32Sure. Anyway, so we've connected again
- 0:35on LinkedIn and she's built a legal practice in Canada.
- 0:41And she put up a post recently where she was talking about how
- 0:46her missionary background has helped or has played into how
- 0:51she's building the legal practice, how she's promoting
- 0:54her legal practice as a lawyer in Canada.
- 0:58And I was like, yeah, makes makes sense.
- 1:02And I agree because I've often wondered, you know, in America,
- 1:08for instance, solar sales, lots of people who are superstars in
- 1:12solar sales and lots of companies that are really big in
- 1:15that background have come out from the, you know, Utah region.
- 1:21And I think that's where the Mormons are based.
- 1:25I think that's like their headquarters, you know, Church
- 1:26of Latter Day Saints. And, you know, they have these
- 1:31thing, they have this thing where they do like international
- 1:34ministry. We know where they send youth
- 1:35abroad. So you have to go to a country
- 1:38to go and talk about Jesus Christ and you don't know the
- 1:42language, you don't know the culture or shadow just drop you
- 1:44down. You're like, you know, it's one
- 1:45year, go on, do your thing. So there are lots of people who
- 1:49have wondered, I'm not sure if there's any academic research
- 1:52out on that. You know that is there any
- 1:54correlation? You know, the fact that you've
- 1:56been put in a spot where you have to do missionary
- 1:59activities, Christian missionary activities, does that now
- 2:03translate or does it parley into business success or being
- 2:10successful? Yeah, let's just say business
- 2:12success. So that's all we're going to be
- 2:16talking about today on the podcast.
- 2:17Don't worry, this is just going to be a a brief 1.
- 2:22So ordinarily what we talk about here are business matters, not
- 2:27matters relating to the faith. So if this is your first time
- 2:30listening to the podcast, you don't need to be scared.
- 2:32You can safely subscribe on Spotify, on YouTube, on Apple,
- 2:37on any player of your choice. And don't worry, you're not
- 2:40going to suffer a barrage of Christian apologetics.
- 2:44So don't worry. We're here for business, so
- 2:46don't worry, I got you. As in I like money too, so don't
- 2:49worry. Then if you'd love to connect
- 2:53with me, you can call, send me a text message or a WhatsApp
- 2:55message on 08064662140. Just make sure the questions are
- 3:03sales and marketing related because this is not a theology
- 3:07podcast. All right?
- 3:09So how being a missionary and how being a business person are
- 3:12the same thing. Now for those of you who are
- 3:14listening to the podcast for the first time and you don't have
- 3:17any background what all of this is like, let's say we have a
- 3:20couple of Muslims who are listening in or a couple of
- 3:23atheists or, you know, maybe I don't know, a couple of Hindus
- 3:29or wherever. So what is missionary work?
- 3:34Who is a missionary and why is that important?
- 3:36Well, missionary work within the Christian context is important
- 3:39because there was a Great Commission.
- 3:42That's what you know, that's the nickname for when Jesus Christ
- 3:45was ascending and he told the disciples, go ye therefore and
- 3:48make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of
- 3:51the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
- 3:53So that is the Great Commission. Then later on, Apostle Paul
- 4:01would also have, I can't remember which chapter in the
- 4:07Bible anyway, what Apostle Paul was said will say that, you
- 4:10know, faith is going to grow through hearing and people are
- 4:13only going to hear if people show up to preach.
- 4:16And of course, within the Christian context, you know,
- 4:19there's the great hope of all of her creation, the whole cosmos
- 4:23being reunited to God at the end of the day.
- 4:25So this is the thing that drives Christian missionary activity.
- 4:32Now, that is one part of the conversation.
- 4:35What's a missionary then #2 being a business person, or
- 4:40better yet, business development, because that's what
- 4:43we talk about over here on the podcast.
- 4:45What is business development important to define that for
- 4:50those of you who are brand new here on the podcast and
- 4:52discovering the show for the first time.
- 4:54So what is business development? What is sales, and why is that
- 4:58important? Now, the reason why this is
- 5:00important is this Peter Drucker, I can't remember which of his
- 5:05books. Management consultant, legendary
- 5:08fellow. So Peter Drucker in one of his
- 5:12books. Funny enough, I read the book
- 5:13and I remember the first time I read it and I came across the
- 5:16passage where he said this and I was like, man, The thing is not
- 5:18correct. This old man doesn't know what
- 5:20he's saying. Yeah, I closed the book.
- 5:22But after a while, by this time I my chore in business small and
- 5:26my eyes have seen one or two things that's like, oh, OK, this
- 5:29guy was actually correct. So in the early chapter of the
- 5:33book, forgive me, I can't remember the title.
- 5:37I'm going to look for it later. So in the early title of in the
- 5:40early chapter of the book now, Peter Drocker asked one very
- 5:43important question. He said, what is the goal of a
- 5:45business? What is the main goal of a
- 5:47business? And of course, when I saw it, I
- 5:49was like, what is this guy asking this kind of question
- 5:51now, this jam question. Now the main goal of a business
- 5:53is money. Now funnily enough, I have been
- 5:56talking to a couple of people at the time and I said in my full
- 6:00chest that the main business, the main reason why I went in
- 6:02business is to make money and some people are trying to found
- 6:05holiness. I say no, it's not money, you
- 6:08know, we have to make society better, you know blah blah blah.
- 6:12So some people are saying societal impact and in my mind
- 6:15I'm giving an emu as I like how societal impact be deceiving
- 6:18yourself. It's all about the money.
- 6:21Then there are some people, another guy where we have this
- 6:28argument. The guy said that no, that the
- 6:30purpose of a business is personal development, that as
- 6:33you grow your business, you need to develop yourself personally,
- 6:38you know, so that you can all, I put it like basically he was
- 6:41saying that the longer you stay in business, the better of a
- 6:44person you have to be. So he was saying that for him
- 6:47the purpose of business development is personal
- 6:51development and that's the reason why we start the
- 6:52business. So basically you have three guys
- 6:55arguing and we have three different opinions.
- 6:57On one end you have me, those of us who are money lovers and we
- 7:01say that the purpose of being in business is to get money.
- 7:06Another person said no. Societal impact which should
- 7:09leave society better off sustainable development, you
- 7:12know, all those sorts of things. And then another person said
- 7:15personal development. Now reading Peter Drocker.
- 7:19Peter Drocker said no, he said no.
- 7:23Peter Drocker said neither of you are correct.
- 7:27The purpose of business is not money.
- 7:29The purpose of business is not societal impact.
- 7:32The purpose of business is not personal development.
- 7:35He said the purpose of a business is to create a
- 7:38customer. When I read that line, I say,
- 7:40ah, that rocker doesn't know what he's saying.
- 7:42I closed the book back so this man doesn't know also and I left
- 7:45him. But then after a while now
- 7:50trying to hose market as a wedding photographer and trying
- 7:56to be in the export business, trying to do a few things, I
- 8:00open up that book again. And I started reading with fresh
- 8:02eyes with some experience behind me.
- 8:05And I read further and I saw that, oh, Professor Drucker was
- 8:09actually correct. And this is the larger context
- 8:14of what Professor Drucker was trying to see.
- 8:16Now, the primary thing you do as a business owner, every single
- 8:20day when you wake up, you ask yourself, how do I create a
- 8:22customer? Where do I find market?
- 8:27When you wake up every day as a business owner, that's the
- 8:29primary question you ask yourself.
- 8:31And he said the reason why is it you have to get that customer
- 8:35first before money will now flow or before you will achieve
- 8:41social impact or before you will achieve personal growth and
- 8:45development. But you wake up first and you
- 8:50will say, where is my customer? So Drucker says that the purpose
- 8:55of a business is to create a customer.
- 8:57And I already like that. I was like, OK, this old man
- 8:59knew what he was saying, then said this guy is making sense.
- 9:02So I continued to read and then Drucker said, now we have agreed
- 9:10that the main role of a business, main goal of a
- 9:13business is create a customer. We now have to ask ourselves
- 9:16what is the best, the fundamental, the utmost function
- 9:22of a business? I don't mind.
- 9:25I'm thinking, OK, this is all my you started again anyway.
- 9:27Sure, may I read, Let me see. Now, Peter Trucker said a
- 9:31business only has two functions. I said two functions.
- 9:35Peter Trucker said, yes, two functions.
- 9:38And the functions of a business are #1 marketing #2 innovation.
- 9:45And I'll say, OK, Drucker, continue.
- 9:47I had a few more to go and then Peter Trucker said marketing is
- 9:53not business function where you wake up as a business owner.
- 9:58Are you trying to figure out how can I tell people I am here, I'm
- 10:03on ground, What did they be? I am here for you.
- 10:09This is who I am, this is what I do, this is my product, this is
- 10:13my service. I say, OK, that makes sense.
- 10:18I agree. That's the marketing function.
- 10:21Then he said the second function, business function, is
- 10:24innovation. And innovation is when you
- 10:27improve on your product or your service or you improve on your
- 10:33method of business delivery. So I read it.
- 10:36I said, OK, Rocker, this guy, you don't make sense.
- 10:38You didn't make sense. And I continued reading the
- 10:41book. But The thing is, that first
- 10:44chapter, I've never forgotten that first chapter.
- 10:47The purpose of a business, create a customer.
- 10:51How do you create a customer? Two business functions,
- 10:54marketing and then innovation. Marketing begin the shouts let
- 10:58everybody know I'm here a mini. This is where you can find me.
- 11:05This is what I do. This is the value that I bring.
- 11:07The marketing function then #2 innovation.
- 11:10I went to my friend's office today and he's a lawyer was a
- 11:17set ahead of mine. So I sat down and then he said
- 11:20oh can't offer you tea and biscuits.
- 11:22In my mind I was saying tea and biscuits see this guy I said
- 11:25sure no problem tea and biscuits.
- 11:28So he offered me tea and biscuits and then next thing I
- 11:31saw on his hand. So oh boy waiting be this he
- 11:35said oh the Samsung fold something something something I
- 11:37said is this the phone? And then he smiled.
- 11:41I said like this phone? No, it's just when I heard this
- 11:442.5 fear Kashmir and then he just laughed and I said about
- 11:50me, I don't like you like you get this guy, guy works in
- 11:53Ministry of Finance. You know he's my guy.
- 11:56So he he buys the phone fresh then when he's about to upgrade
- 12:02and I'll buy the phone from him secondhand I said so he said he
- 12:06didn't pay 2.5. So where am I going with this
- 12:12innovation? So sorry, 1 moment.
- 12:18Sorry about that. I'm making today's recording at
- 12:21home and yeah, the kids are around and there's a problem
- 12:24with the Internet, so they wanted me to sort that out.
- 12:27Sorry, I should have let you guys know at the beginning of
- 12:30the recording. Now where was I?
- 12:33So I was in I was in my friend's office and he's holding this
- 12:36Samsung Fold 2.5 M as incorrect phone.
- 12:41That phone is sexy die. And we're talking about
- 12:45innovation. Yes, innovation.
- 12:47That's why I remembered it because you know, when Samsung
- 12:49came out with this V fold, you know first it was bulky.
- 12:54Some people complained that the hinges used to break these, the
- 12:57screen used to crease. But this one has been getting
- 13:00smaller and thinner and sexier. You know from what I hear, the
- 13:05camera is getting better and better and better and that phone
- 13:10is pretty. It's just I can't get around
- 13:13this 2.5 million naira price tag.
- 13:18Of course I don't have 2.5 million now right now.
- 13:20So that's the second function of the business.
- 13:22Now Samsung is doing what innovation they're making the
- 13:26phones finer and finer, upgrading everything.
- 13:30Casing is looking sweet, phone is looking nice and slim, slim
- 13:35everything. You know, even though it opens
- 13:37up to about 7 inches when you fold it, the thing looks nice
- 13:40and portable, looking cute. That is innovation, innovating
- 13:44on the product. So those are the only two
- 13:49functions of a business, marketing and then innovation.
- 13:53Some of you say we started from missionary, now we're talking
- 13:56about Samsung V Fold. What's the connection?
- 13:58Don't worry, I'm going somewhere.
- 13:59Let's just be, let's be going so well, Druckers now.
- 14:10So Professor Drucker now said that of these two functions,
- 14:13which one is more important? I know some of you say
- 14:15innovation and you're wrong. Drucker said, and I believe him,
- 14:21that marketing is the most important.
- 14:24The business function where you wake up every day and say where
- 14:27is my customer? Begin the wrong, begin the hose
- 14:30up and down. How will I attract this
- 14:31customer? He said that is the most
- 14:33important business function. So for those of you who didn't
- 14:38know before, I'm telling you now, the function of your
- 14:42business is to create a customer.
- 14:44How do you create a customer? Through marketing and through
- 14:46innovation. Of the two, marketing and
- 14:48innovation, which is most important?
- 14:50The most important one is marketing because that's what
- 14:53will bring the customer in in the 1st place.
- 14:57And of course, sales, advertising, PR, branding, all
- 15:01those other things are the children of marketing.
- 15:04So that's what joins all of us. So now you know the most
- 15:07important part of a business and why we get into business.
- 15:15So those of you who are like me, money lovers, you think is Naira
- 15:18and Kobo, we're looking for, actually we're looking for
- 15:20customers first. That is our pathway to Naira and
- 15:23Kobo. Now back to the main question of
- 15:27the podcast, missionary work and business development.
- 15:31Nobody the same thing is the same with missionary work.
- 15:35We are prospecting for souls. Prospecting just means the
- 15:39process, the thought process, the disciplines, the strategy of
- 15:44trying to figure out who might be interested in our product or
- 15:46service, who might need our product or service.
- 15:49Where do these people hang out? How do we reach out to them?
- 15:53How do we start conversations with them?
- 15:55How do we start relationships with them?
- 15:57How do we close the deal? How do we enter into a customer
- 16:02and seller relationship? How do we make this thing
- 16:05official? How do I marry my customers?
- 16:08So all that thought process involved, all that is all go
- 16:11prospecting. So when you are a missionary,
- 16:15you are prospecting for souls. I have this good news about
- 16:18Jesus Christ. Who is in need of these good
- 16:20news? The world is in existential
- 16:24crisis. Who is looking for certainty?
- 16:26Who is worried about salvation? If you're one of those
- 16:29prosperity preachers who is dying broke, who needs money and
- 16:35then you come up with a plan to go there and to start that
- 16:40relationship, you get them to give their life to Christ so you
- 16:43can be collecting tights. You understand now what is
- 16:49business development? We are prospecting for clients.
- 16:53If you sell Samsung V Fold, you wake up every day and you ask
- 16:57yourself who are those Nigerians who have bastard money and who
- 17:01want to buy phone? Where are they?
- 17:03Where can I find them in the real world?
- 17:05Where are they online, where are they?
- 17:08How can I reach them? How can I start the
- 17:10conversation? How can I move the conversation
- 17:14along? How can I build this
- 17:15relationship? How can I collect that money?
- 17:19So you can see that missionary work and business development,
- 17:21they're the same thing. One person prospects for souls,
- 17:24another person prospects for clients.
- 17:28As my mom used to say when I was little, I would say something
- 17:31that you say in the same difference and I'll be like,
- 17:34what does that even mean? If you say it's a dramatic
- 17:37expression, you'll figure out what it means.
- 17:39Till today, I still don't know what it means, right?
- 17:42But I just know that, you know, if somebody is splitting hairs,
- 17:46you say same difference. So same difference.
- 17:52The reward is different, but the skills and the thought process
- 17:55are the same. So in other words, I want to say
- 17:59learn how to be a missionary today on this podcast.
- 18:02That's what we're doing. We are missionaries for
- 18:04business. Anyway, I'm sure some of you are
- 18:09curious. What exactly did my friend say
- 18:11in the post? Let me go ahead and read from
- 18:13it. So she said, let me paraphrase.
- 18:17She said she grew up in a missionary church and for the
- 18:20missions they used to go from 1 village to another, knocking on
- 18:24every door and sharing the gospel.
- 18:26Yeah, she went to a village church.
- 18:28But if you see that, my friend, you won't know because, man, she
- 18:31looks keen. No way over you above me.
- 18:35I Willow University, the greatest university in the
- 18:38world, she was clean, she was fresh.
- 18:42So when I saw her on LinkedIn, I said, I quickly sent her a
- 18:46message. I said, Boomi, you're still
- 18:47fresh like this. She laughed.
- 18:49I said, you've always been a fresher, too fresh to be
- 18:53stressed. So even though she went to a
- 18:55village church, if you see her, you won't see village on her at
- 18:58all. She's clean.
- 18:59She has always been clean, always smooth, always on point.
- 19:05So they'll go one village to another, sharing the gospel for
- 19:11a while. I had a similar experience
- 19:13because I joined the Legion of Mary as a teenager and, you
- 19:17know, some other Catholic lay apostolates.
- 19:19So I have small experience, you know, trying to do missionary
- 19:22work and oh boy, it's Scario to go and knock on the door of a
- 19:25total stranger. So here's who is that We are
- 19:29from Legion of Mary, want to talk to you about Jesus Christ.
- 19:33Come all, you get out with Jesus Christ.
- 19:36So anyway, interesting experiences, but we can talk
- 19:38about that later. So eventually she shifted into,
- 19:43OK, let me not call the name of her law firm because her
- 19:45partners might not appreciate that I'm talking about the law
- 19:48firm. So she now said when she talks
- 19:54about the value that her firm brings to individuals and
- 20:00businesses, she goes back to her missionary days and she adopts
- 20:05the same approach. So my friend Bhumi, she shows up
- 20:09at networking events, she shows up at local community
- 20:12gatherings, and she shows up anywhere that people are having
- 20:16meaningful conversations about business growth.
- 20:22And she sees herself as the firm's chief evangelist.
- 20:27Can you hear that? You see what I'm saying?
- 20:29We should be missionary about our businesses.
- 20:31She considers herself in the role of an evangelist anywhere
- 20:35in the community where she's based in Canada, two or three
- 20:39people are gathered and they're talking about business growth.
- 20:42She will show and she will say I am here the chief evangelist for
- 20:48my law firm. She considers that her mission
- 20:52field. That's what she calls it.
- 20:54If people gather and are talking money, she will say that is a
- 20:56mission field and she will buff up fresh booming and show up.
- 21:02That's ambition field. So she was talking about how
- 21:12there was a Christmas market that was going on.
- 21:14Let me now call the festival. So you won't know exactly where
- 21:17she is in Canada. So you won't go and meet her and
- 21:20say, are you so? So I heard about you on the
- 21:23podcast. So she said that at the
- 21:27Christmas market, she met inspiring business owners and
- 21:30she learned about their work and people listening.
- 21:34This is somebody who is not trained in sales.
- 21:36She went there to the business market and the first thing she
- 21:39did was not to go around and say, let me be your lawyer.
- 21:44I'm the smartest, I'm the best, I'm the brightest, I'm the
- 21:47cheapest, I'm the fastest. She didn't say none of that.
- 21:51She went first to learn about people's businesses there.
- 21:56From learning, she now started sharing how her firm, our law
- 22:00firm, can support their businesses, but first went to
- 22:03learn about their businesses. And that's part of what we do
- 22:09when we're in the field as missionaries.
- 22:13We don't want to start preaching to people immediately.
- 22:15Eventually we get to the preaching.
- 22:16But first you want to know what it is that the person is dealing
- 22:18with. If you're if you're a prosperity
- 22:21preacher, you want to know first like the person is broke
- 22:24ourself. Now you can now start screaming,
- 22:27you know, now you're a couple running it over and all whatnot.
- 22:30And then you collect your tights.
- 22:34Or if you're dealing with somebody who is an atheist and
- 22:37an existentialist, then you can now start talking about what is
- 22:40the meaning of life. But sure, you will listen to the
- 22:44person first because that was where you will know how you are
- 22:48going to stress the gospel. It's the same in business, and
- 22:55Boomi is not trained in sales, so she says that she likes to
- 22:59genuinely collect with people and that she shows up.
- 23:06So care for people, showing up, listening to them,
- 23:08understanding. She said that is work that she
- 23:11learned in church as a missionary and that is what she
- 23:15has used to drive business growth.
- 23:20So some of the things that Boomi has said are things I've already
- 23:23said on the podcast before. So no need to stress that,
- 23:28Bosha, from what you've heard now, please let us all be
- 23:31missionary about our businesses because nobody is going to share
- 23:35the good news about your business.
- 23:37But you, if you don't know, know it now, especially in the early
- 23:43days, nobody is going to share the good news about your
- 23:47business. But you, if you sell skin care
- 23:51products and your skin can take somebody who is black like me, I
- 23:56make the person yellow like purple.
- 23:58Nobody is going to share the good news of your cream or your
- 24:02business. But you eventually you will get
- 24:06some evangelists when people have seen the light that OK,
- 24:09this cream works. But in the early days, nobody
- 24:12will share the gospel of your business but you.
- 24:15Some people tell me that I'm too promotional.
- 24:17I say promo Guinea. I don't promote nothing.
- 24:20In fact, you haven't heard from me yet.
- 24:22That's because I share all my LinkedIn.
- 24:24I post about let's say 5-6 times every day.
- 24:28Some people say it's too much, as in it's too much What?
- 24:32They're Nigerians that have never heard of me.
- 24:34They're Nigerians that have never heard of my podcast.
- 24:37You want me to slow down because what?
- 24:40When people don't know my name, when people don't know what I
- 24:44do, why should I be slowing down?
- 24:46Nobody is going to promote the good news about my podcast and
- 24:50about my consultancy services and my training services bought
- 24:53me. So every day I gas promote
- 24:56violently. So if you follow me on LinkedIn,
- 25:02don't be surprised. I know vex and if you're vexed
- 25:07then unfollow me. But you will see 57, sometimes
- 25:1210 posts from me every single day.
- 25:17Nobody is going to be more missionary about your business
- 25:21than you. We all need to wake up.
- 25:24We all need to be missionaries. So for those of us who grew up
- 25:30in the church, just like how they sent you forth, I said go
- 25:36and preach the good news about Jesus Christ.
- 25:39It's the same thing. Sorry, hold on before some of
- 25:45you get angry. I'm not saying it's the same
- 25:47thing. Jesus Christ is more important
- 25:48than money. So it's not the same thing.
- 25:51What I'm just saying is the, the, the approach, the zeal, and
- 25:57that's, that's that's all we should be doing.
- 25:59You understand me? I'm not saying that money and
- 26:02Jesus is on the same level. Now, I'm not saying that, but
- 26:05yeah, I'm just saying if we want to grow that business, if I want
- 26:12to acquire the customers, if I want to exercise the marketing
- 26:18function of your business, well, if you want to make Peter
- 26:21Drucker proud, wake up every day and be missionary about growing
- 26:25your business. So that's it, and that's all for
- 26:28today. For those of you who are patient
- 26:30enough to listen to everything from beginning to the end, hope
- 26:33you're happy with the way I landed the plane.
- 26:36I'm sure some of you are thinking how, boy is this guy
- 26:37trying to make a Christian out of me.
- 26:39Now don't worry if you're not giving your life to Christ, I'm
- 26:41not trying to convert you, at least not yet.
- 26:44Right now, my concern is that we should all make this money.
- 26:49We should make this clean money. We should make this bastard
- 26:51money. That's my primary concern for
- 26:53now. All other philosophical and
- 26:56religious conversations, we'll have them later when we see in
- 26:58the flesh. Yeah, we'll have them.
- 27:00We had better make that money because I expect that when we
- 27:04see if you and I decide to hang out, you know, we should be
- 27:08chilling somewhere in the bar. You should buy your boy a couple
- 27:11of drinks. Don't expect me to buy drinks
- 27:14from you. I've already been giving you
- 27:15this podcast for free. If we see you now, expect me to
- 27:18pick up the tab. Come on, be serious.
- 27:22If we hook up, you're the one who is pretty Bill.
- 27:24Whatever I eat, you pay for. Whatever I drink, you pay for.
- 27:29Anyway, it's been 30 minutes. Then bring it to a close.
- 27:31So thank you very much for listening.
- 27:32Thank you very much for your time and attention.
- 27:34If you'd love to connect with me, call, send me a text
- 27:37message, send me a WhatsApp message on the 08064662140.
- 27:43Thank you very much for your time and attention.
- 27:46And just in case you happen to be based in Canada and you
- 27:49happen to know a boomi who is a lawyer, share this abusoha say
- 27:53boomi is this you share with her.
- 28:01You never know. Anyway, let me just leave you
- 28:04like that so I'll catch you guys some other time.