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Removing the Guilt of Not Giving · She's On The Money

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Speaker 1: Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud Yr
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Speaker 1: the Order Kerney Whaltbury and a waddery woman. And before
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Speaker 1: we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I
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Speaker 1: would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land
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Speaker 1: acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming
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Speaker 1: through as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing
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Speaker 1: today and lasting impact for tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
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Speaker 3: She's on the Money, She's on the Money.
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Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money the podcast.
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Speaker 4: Millennials who watch Financial Freedom, Hello Victoria.
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Speaker 2: Hello, bags.
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Speaker 4: Are you ready?
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Speaker 2: It seems so solemn. I know it's really really sad
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Speaker 2: episode today.
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Speaker 5: No it's not.
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Speaker 6: It's never a sad episode.
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Speaker 5: Terrible gag. Move on, Okay, let's get on with it.
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Speaker 4: Look, very often in life you can't make your money
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Speaker 4: go far enough to do all the things that you
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Speaker 4: want to do or even should do.
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Speaker 2: It can be really stressful. It can be very stressful.
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Speaker 4: Giving your charity can be one of those things that
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Speaker 4: we know is super important. It makes us feel good
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Speaker 4: and really kind of grinds on us when we can't
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Speaker 4: afford to do You feel that same dilemma, Oh.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, And I feel like so many of us feel
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Speaker 6: that or like get the guilts when I don't know,
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Speaker 6: You're at a stop sign and the guy comes up
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Speaker 6: with the like tem for like the children's hospital or something,
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Speaker 6: and you're like, oh, I don't have coins, all the
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Speaker 6: way through to feeling really guilty that you know, you
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Speaker 6: might know somebody else who donates a portion of their
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Speaker 6: paycheck and you just can't do that. So I feel
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Speaker 6: like that's why I want to talk about it today,
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Speaker 6: because we want to remove the guilt of not giving
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Speaker 6: today because obviously, if you know me, well you know
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Speaker 6: that's something that is very very close to my heart.
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Speaker 6: It is something I do. It is something my husband
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Speaker 6: and I do together. I also think it's interesting because
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Speaker 6: I find it weird when people openly talk about what
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Speaker 6: they give and how they give.
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Speaker 5: Weird like humble brag, yeah, weird.
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Speaker 6: Flex So like, that's all I'm gonna say on that,
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Speaker 6: because I just feel a little bit uncomfortable being like, well,
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Speaker 6: we do this and this is how we do this,
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Speaker 6: and it's a flex like disgusting.
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Speaker 4: What I hear I have money?
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Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, and you're just like cool.
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Speaker 6: And does that make you feel good? Must be nice
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Speaker 6: and must be nice. But anyway, so it's something that
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Speaker 6: lots of us want to do. And amongst our heavier
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Speaker 6: and denser episodes where you learn about investing, for example,
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Speaker 6: I think it's also super important to talk about our
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Speaker 6: mental health when it comes to money. And ow she's
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Speaker 6: on the money family know that that's really important to
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Speaker 6: me as well. So this is one of those little
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Speaker 6: checking episodes to make sure we're all on the same
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Speaker 6: page and we are mentally healthy. So I'm going to
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Speaker 6: start with a little bit of personal experience. So way
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Speaker 6: back when I was at UNI, I was about twenty,
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Speaker 6: I had a sponsor child through World Vision. So growing up,
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Speaker 6: my parents had a sponsor child for my sister and
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Speaker 6: I and that was a way that they gave back.
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Speaker 6: So when I became an adult, I really wanted to
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Speaker 6: continue that because I felt like it was a really
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Speaker 6: beautiful experience. Like I don't know if you've ever seen
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Speaker 6: how that process works. And to be honest, I know
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Speaker 6: that there are lots of companies that do and don't
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Speaker 6: do the right thing when it comes to spontor the children.
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Speaker 6: But the company I went through, I felt like was
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Speaker 6: really legitimate, and you kind of get a relationship with
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Speaker 6: that child and you feel, I don't know, you just
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Speaker 6: feel good anyway, really like it. And when I've moved
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Speaker 6: into my first full time job and my parents kind
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Speaker 6: of weren't the bank of Mum and Dad in that
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Speaker 6: way that they financially made me feel secure, I was
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Speaker 6: really struggling and I had to cut back expenses. I've
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Speaker 6: spoken about this quite openly. I ended up in literally
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Speaker 6: more than thirty thousand dollars worth of personal debt, and
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Speaker 6: a decision that I made was that I had to
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Speaker 6: stop sponsoring my sponsor child because it was too much,
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Speaker 6: like it was just adding up, and I felt guilty
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Speaker 6: and sick, and I would stay up late at night
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Speaker 6: just thinking about that how some poor kid in a
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Speaker 6: different country was not being looked after because I couldn't
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Speaker 6: get my shit together, And that really weighed very heavily
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Speaker 6: on me. And it's kind of hard to remove that
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Speaker 6: guilt when we know how privileged we are, even if
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Speaker 6: we are struggling like we were living in Australia and
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Speaker 6: I could just go to the supermarket and like, oh yeah, anyway,
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Speaker 6: So we get this idea that somebody else needs the
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Speaker 6: money more than we do, and then we feel terrible.
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Speaker 6: And I think I'm not the only one who's been
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Speaker 6: in this circumstance, regardless of whether it was a sponsor
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Speaker 6: child or giving money or as I said, just giving
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Speaker 6: coins to somebody who asks for them on Legacy Day.
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Speaker 6: But I just think that is a good way to
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Speaker 6: start this because I have been through periods where I
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Speaker 6: haven't been able to give, and it's a value that
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Speaker 6: I have. And you know what, if you don't give
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Speaker 6: and it's not in line when your values are not here,
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Speaker 6: to try and change your values. No, like, let's talk
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Speaker 6: about a few common experiences when it does come to giving.
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Speaker 6: I don't think anybody should guilt you into giving. This
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Speaker 6: is never a good reason to do anything. And I'm
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Speaker 6: talking directly to the people with yellow clipboards on the
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Speaker 6: corner of Colin's Freed in Melbourne, CBD. As I say this,
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Speaker 6: don't come up to me and be like, do you
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Speaker 6: know how good you've got it? You will not be
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Speaker 6: getting my money. Goodbye, sir, you'll get my tears. Giving
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Speaker 6: to charity doesn't make you a better person. You can't
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Speaker 6: actually buy being a better person. I don't care how
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Speaker 6: much money you give to charity. You can show kindness
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Speaker 6: in your every date life and make the world a
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Speaker 6: better place because if that, you do not need to
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Speaker 6: share your money with anybody. Like I think that a
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Speaker 6: lot of people see it as like, oh, you must
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Speaker 6: think you're such a better person because you give to charity. No,
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Speaker 6: that's not something that exists. And if you even hold
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Speaker 6: that value about yourself, I think that you need to
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Speaker 6: really revalue. That doesn't make you a good person. We
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Speaker 6: need to talk about why you give in the first place,
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Speaker 6: What does that make you feel, Why are you choosing
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Speaker 6: that charity in particular, why do you do what you do?
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Speaker 6: And you know, giving you more examples because I am
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Speaker 6: really passionate about this. Something that I don't talk about
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Speaker 6: enough is my role as the treasurer and I'm on
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Speaker 6: the board at TLC for Kids. TLC for Kids is
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Speaker 6: a children's charity that basically gives practical and emotional relief
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Speaker 6: to sick kids and their families all across Australia.
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Speaker 2: And they do you know, rapid responses.
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Speaker 6: So if you're a sick child and you need something,
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Speaker 6: you submit a request and they help you.
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Speaker 2: They've also got this beautiful.
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Speaker 6: Offering beck that makes me cry, like it is so moving. Right,
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Speaker 6: So sick kids and their families don't have the opportunity
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Speaker 6: to just go home whenever they want, right. And obviously,
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Speaker 6: if you want to take a sick kid home, often
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Speaker 6: you need, like it, an ambulance because they're so sick
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Speaker 6: that they need the support.
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Speaker 2: But obviously you.
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Speaker 6: Can't just give every sick kid an ambulance so that
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Speaker 6: they can just go home and pat their dog or
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Speaker 6: go to thea or do whatever they want, because we need
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Speaker 6: to reserve ambulances for emergencies, like you can't just use
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Speaker 6: them as you want to. Anyway, TC for Kids has
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Speaker 6: a new initiative and it's the TLC Ambulance, and it's
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Speaker 6: for sick kids to have rides to where they need
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Speaker 6: to go to do what they need to do. And
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Speaker 6: often these rides are used as their last rides.
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Speaker 2: They might want to go home.
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Speaker 6: To see the dog, or they might want to you know,
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Speaker 6: go to the beach or like put their feet in
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Speaker 6: the sand or do something with their family. And often
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Speaker 6: it's a really mundane trip. Like it's not like, oh,
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Speaker 6: let's do make a wish and take a cancer kid
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Speaker 6: all the way to Disneyland. Like it's not stuff like that.
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Speaker 6: It's wholesome content and that's what they do. And I
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Speaker 6: feel so privileged to be involved and so proud of
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Speaker 6: the work that they do. And that's why I'm involved.
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Speaker 6: It doesn't make me a better person, Like, listen to
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Speaker 6: the stories. Like you listen to the stories, you meet
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Speaker 6: the people, you see how passionate they are, and like
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Speaker 6: the CEO, Tim Connell and Hotly Moley, he is one
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Speaker 6: of the most wholesome human beings. And like, just being
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Speaker 6: able to hold space with people like that is an
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Speaker 6: absolute privilege. And that's what I get from that. Like
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Speaker 6: I genuinely believe that I get more out of that
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Speaker 6: experience than they ever get from me. And I think
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Speaker 6: that that is, to me, one of the most valuable
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Speaker 6: roles that I have. It's so cool back, it is
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Speaker 6: so cool, But I just think that if we did
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Speaker 6: enough research on our own, people would be able to
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Speaker 6: find the same passion that I have for TLC for kids,
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Speaker 6: for their own charities and their own causes and a
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Speaker 6: lot of the time, we're just like, ah, well, you know,
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Speaker 6: there are starving kids in Africa.
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Speaker 2: I can't save them all.
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Speaker 6: And that's okay. That might not be a cause that's
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Speaker 6: that close to your heart, but I'm sure that there
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Speaker 6: is something that you will find that could resonate with you.
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Speaker 6: But we don't just give cash because it makes you
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Speaker 6: a good person. Yeah, Like that's actually a really surface
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Speaker 6: level and to me, really gross.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Like, I remember going on a date once with some
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Speaker 6: dude I met on Tinder, which near a whole host
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Speaker 6: of stories. We can start another podcast, Okay, yeah, let's
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Speaker 6: do that Tory's Tindertails. But I remember that was like
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Speaker 6: one of the first things he wanted to tell me
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Speaker 6: that he was like super charitable, and I was at
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Speaker 6: UNI and I was like, this is ick, Like I
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Speaker 6: couldn't give anything, and then he was judging anyway. Red flag,
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Speaker 6: red flag. But also, where you given. The way that
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Speaker 6: you give is personal to you and your values, and
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Speaker 6: I don't think anyone should be asking you about that
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Speaker 6: or making you feel bad about that. It's a very
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Speaker 6: fickle space, and I don't think people should be giving
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Speaker 6: because it ultimately makes them a better person. I think
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Speaker 6: we should be giving because you get so much out
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Speaker 6: of it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there are so many reasons to give and the
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Speaker 4: benefits that you know, the receiver and the giver actually get.
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Speaker 4: But there's also this thing called tie thing. Yep, tie thing,
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Speaker 4: where you give a percentage to charity or church as
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Speaker 4: a part of your religious beliefs.
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Speaker 5: Is that Am I kind of explaining that right?
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Speaker 6: Yes, so it's called tie thing, and I find it
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Speaker 6: very interesting because beck the church quite clearly does not
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Speaker 6: have enough money at the moment. They really need ambment
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Speaker 6: of your pennies, just really scraping pennies. They do not
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Speaker 6: own the most amount of real estate in the entire
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Speaker 6: country or even the entire world. I think they've got
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Speaker 6: the biggest property investment portfolio in the entire world.
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Speaker 2: Actually, Catholic Church.
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Speaker 5: Wow, yeah, but.
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Speaker 2: It's not them.
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Speaker 6: You you must have worked really hard for that. But
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Speaker 6: let's not get into the religious side of things, because
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Speaker 6: we're not here to offend people, and it's not actually
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Speaker 6: about our religious perspectives. It's actually about this idea of tithing,
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Speaker 6: and a tithe is a portion, usually ten percent of
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Speaker 6: your income that is given as an offering to your
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Speaker 6: local church. Fun fact, the word tythe literally means tenth
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Speaker 6: in Hebrew, which I find really interesting because I just
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Speaker 6: like knowing where words come from. Yes, because the custom
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Speaker 6: of tithing is biblical, many Christians and Jewish people practice
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Speaker 6: it as part of their faith, but it is expressed
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Speaker 6: in lots of different ways across organized religion, and I
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Speaker 6: just look, I find it really interesting and we might
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Speaker 6: do a whole episode on it because they say it's,
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Speaker 6: you know, a choice, it's something need I.
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Speaker 2: Don't have to do.
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Speaker 6: But obviously there are a lot of repercussions if you're
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Speaker 6: not seen to be tie things, and there are actually
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Speaker 6: a lot of stories. Again, I've been on TikTok recently
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Speaker 6: and I have found myself on Mormon Utah TikTok Ah,
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Speaker 6: and like I've talked about this before, and I find
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Speaker 6: it really interesting because they obviously are obsessed with like
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Speaker 6: dit Coke and soul my, so, like, I keep watching
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Speaker 6: their videos and then I keep being served more of them,
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Speaker 6: but it keeps coming up about this tie thing, and
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Speaker 6: a few content creators have come up on my feed
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Speaker 6: talking about how much debt they've gone into but they
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Speaker 6: were still tithing ten percent of their income to the church,
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Speaker 6: and it just gives me the ick, and it doesn't
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Speaker 6: feel like that's the best possible use of your personal funds. Like,
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Speaker 6: if you're in debt, why are you still giving a
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Speaker 6: church worth literal billions regardless of what it is ten
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Speaker 6: percent of your income.
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Speaker 1: Hmm.
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Speaker 4: It seems like they don't care or mind that you're
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Speaker 4: struggling to make ends meet. Yeah. Absolutely, so it sound
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Speaker 4: like a very truly beneficial relationship. Maybe I don't know what.
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Speaker 6: I've never tythed, and I can basically guarantee I.
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Speaker 5: Never will type no, I've teethed. I've teethed, but I
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Speaker 5: will not tythe will not tythe.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to a break.
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Speaker 5: We desperately need a break. Let's go for a little break.
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Speaker 5: Let's go for a cup of tape bub Welcome back.
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Speaker 4: We are talking about the guilt many of us experience
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Speaker 4: if we can't manage to give to charity today right
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Speaker 4: this second. One thing I want to raise is that
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Speaker 4: just because we can't give right now, it doesn't mean.
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Speaker 5: We can't ever give.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, Our circumstances will change, hopefully and in the
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Speaker 4: future you might be in a different financial situation.
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Speaker 5: Maybe you can give then.
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Speaker 6: Just get one percent, And I mean, I actually think
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Speaker 6: it's really important to prioritize you and look after your
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Speaker 6: mental health and your physical health, and make sure you
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Speaker 6: know you've got a good emergency fund before you're doing
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Speaker 6: these things. Because as much as I think it's beautiful
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Speaker 6: and I think it should definitely be part of everyone's
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Speaker 6: ultimate budget. When I say ultimate budget, though, that's after
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Speaker 6: you've got your emergency fund and you're not in personal
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Speaker 6: debt and you're in an okay situation and you have
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Speaker 6: a disposable income. I feel like getting yourself in a
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Speaker 6: position to look at your budget and set goals is
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Speaker 6: actually a really good investment. And one of these might
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Speaker 6: be to regularly give to charity, and that's okay. But
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Speaker 6: I just think there's been a lot of content around recently,
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Speaker 6: just floating around the internet, floating on Instagram, other money
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Speaker 6: podcasts talking about it that just makes me feel a
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Speaker 6: little bit like we should be guilted into it, and
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Speaker 6: as we've said before, we don't do that. But i'd
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Speaker 6: actually like to ask you about it, Beck, because you
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Speaker 6: know you've shared before that you haven't earned a massive income,
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Speaker 6: and you've been in debt and you've gone through bankruptcy.
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Speaker 6: What's your take on charity, because I feel like people
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Speaker 6: that I know in similar situations to you, it just
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Speaker 6: doesn't even come across the radar, Like we don't even
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Speaker 6: think about it because it's just not a friggin' option.
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Speaker 6: It's not something you can consider. So why I spend
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Speaker 6: too much time on it?
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Speaker 4: I know that's so true. I mean I did used
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Speaker 4: to give a little bit to save the children. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: and I don't know how, but it just dropped off.
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Speaker 4: But it wasn't heaps of money. I guess like my
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Speaker 4: main thing is now exactly this, Like I'm not in
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Speaker 4: the financial situation to give money and certainly not enough.
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Speaker 4: That's and you know this might seem silly, but not
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Speaker 4: enough to actually maybe feel like I'm making a big
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Speaker 4: difference totally. Like I know that probably a dollar a
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Speaker 4: month among other millions of one dollar per month makes
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Speaker 4: a big difference. But if I don't feel good about it,
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Speaker 4: I just feel like it's a bit of a cop out.
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna wait until I have the money to give,
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Speaker 4: until charity I actually want to give to, Like I
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Speaker 4: really care about animals kept in captivity really really stresses
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Speaker 4: me out and that's kind of a cause that I
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Speaker 4: want to maybe go down, you know, and animals don't
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Speaker 4: know that I'm helping them.
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Speaker 5: But it still feels.
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Speaker 4: Good, do you know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: And that's why we do it. It feels good.
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Speaker 4: I think I'm going to wait until I'm a little
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Speaker 4: bit more financially stable and kind of feel like I'm
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Speaker 4: making a difference.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 6: And that's so that's totally okay. But what I don't
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Speaker 6: think is okay if someone was like, oh, Beck, you
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Speaker 6: don't give even a dollar how ick?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 4: Absolutely not, yeah, absolutely, And you know, there are ways
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Speaker 4: to give back that don't involve money. You could volunteer
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Speaker 4: time for any number of volunteer organizations. There are plenty
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Speaker 4: out there, and as you say, v like, it's not
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Speaker 4: always one sided. You get so much back from the community,
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Speaker 4: the connections, the experiences that you hadn't even bargained for.
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Speaker 4: These are things that you just exactly, you can't you know,
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Speaker 4: the priceless exactly. I feel like it just brings, I guess,
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Speaker 4: another layer to your life.
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Speaker 2: And it's kind of like.
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Speaker 6: Having alby in a way, or like a passion project
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Speaker 6: or an interest or something that you just do for
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Speaker 6: yourself that makes you feel really good, and they're like,
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Speaker 6: I mean, a lot of people are going to be like, what,
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Speaker 6: I don't want to go down to the local soup kitchen.
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Speaker 6: That sounds boring. That's fine, that might not be for you,
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Speaker 6: But like, what are you passionate about? And you said before,
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Speaker 6: Beck that you're really passionate about animals kept in captivity.
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Speaker 6: And I think that there are probably a lot of
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Speaker 6: things you could do if you wanted to, and you
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Speaker 6: had the privilege of additional time to be able to
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Speaker 6: do that, that you know, could work towards that. But
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Speaker 6: something else I want to touch on is actually this
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Speaker 6: concept that I have seen recently about this expectation that
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Speaker 6: there are big rich people who don't even give back.
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Speaker 6: And that's okay, that's all right, you do you, But
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Speaker 6: this idea that I've never seen them at the soup kitchen.
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Speaker 6: I've never seen them, you know, pack a gift bag
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Speaker 6: for a charity event. I've never seen them, you know,
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Speaker 6: do the hard yards. All they do is throw cash
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Speaker 6: at it and think that that makes them a better person.
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Speaker 6: One we're ready to still doesn't make you a better person.
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Speaker 6: But let's preface this a little bit better.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 6: So, say you're a CEO of a really really big company, right,
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Speaker 6: and your time is valuable.
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Speaker 2: Like, let's say you're a lawyer.
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Speaker 6: Because lawyers have really high charge out rates.
16:51
Speaker 2: You're a really big dog lawyer.
16:52
Speaker 6: You make like a twelve hundred bucks an hour working
16:55
Speaker 6: with clients, right, big dog lawyer.
16:57
Speaker 2: Right, So you're earning.
16:58
Speaker 6: This twelve hundred dollars per hour, and there is a
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Speaker 6: charity event going on down the road, and it's a
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Speaker 6: cause that's really close to your heart, and they need
17:06
Speaker 6: some help packing some.
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Speaker 2: Gift bags, and you go far out. That would be
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Speaker 2: really good. I really want to help this charity.
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Speaker 6: I really like is that the best use of your
17:15
Speaker 6: time and money to spend your time going and packing
17:19
Speaker 6: gift bags? Where you know, a minimum wage you know,
17:22
Speaker 6: casual worker could do that. And let's say it's thirty
17:24
Speaker 6: bucks an hour to hire somebody to go and pack
17:27
Speaker 6: gift bags. I know a lot of people who jump
17:29
Speaker 6: at the chance to pack gift bags for thirty bucks
17:31
Speaker 6: an hour. Right, is that the best use of that
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Speaker 6: CEO or that lawyer's time to do that, or is
17:36
Speaker 6: a better use of their time to work a few
17:39
Speaker 6: more hours and then donate a chunk of cash to
17:42
Speaker 6: charity that they can use to pay for those gift bags,
17:45
Speaker 6: or you know, pay for services that that company renders,
17:49
Speaker 6: or pay for you know, a TLC for children, you know,
17:51
Speaker 6: pay for something these kids need. I feel like we
17:54
Speaker 6: really need to reframe what giving means, because there's this
17:58
Speaker 6: idea that, oh.
17:59
Speaker 2: You do give money.
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Speaker 5: That's so black and white.
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Speaker 6: It's so black and white. It's not this idea of
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Speaker 6: is that the best use of my time? And I
18:07
Speaker 6: have done historically, you know, my fair share of stuff
18:10
Speaker 6: like that. But now, being a business owner, I kind
18:13
Speaker 6: of look at it and go, well, actually might be
18:15
Speaker 6: a better use of my time to donate a percentage
18:18
Speaker 6: of my business's income or my business is profit to
18:21
Speaker 6: charity than it is for me to take days off
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Speaker 6: work and go and help out somewhere. Why don't I
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Speaker 6: help them hire someone to do that. Why don't I
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Speaker 6: help actually fund that, or why don't I give money
18:33
Speaker 6: towards the cause that they're trying to raise money for.
18:35
Speaker 6: So I think it's an interesting conundrum because a lot
18:37
Speaker 6: of people are like, oh, CEOs won't lift a finger,
18:40
Speaker 6: and then there's all these you know, something that really
18:42
Speaker 6: frustrates me. Is this like CEO sleepout you know that
18:46
Speaker 6: never in my cay. So it's like it's like a
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Speaker 6: charity event and that's so fine, and it does raise
18:50
Speaker 6: a lot of money for a really really good cause.
18:52
Speaker 6: But it's this idea that they'll take a CEO and
18:55
Speaker 6: make them sleep on you know, the MCG grounds in
18:58
Speaker 6: a cardboard box for the night, and it's totally okay,
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Speaker 6: and like it does raise money and you're like paying,
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Speaker 6: you know, you might like contribute funds towards this particular
19:06
Speaker 6: CEO that's raising money.
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Speaker 2: I just think it's.
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Speaker 6: Such a cop out because it's like you don't need
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Speaker 6: to sleep in a cardboard box on the MCG to
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Speaker 6: raise money or do good or be good.
19:16
Speaker 2: Like it's just also I feel.
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Speaker 4: Like homeless people maybe don't like they have the spikes
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Speaker 4: on the little you know, like sidewalks and stuff, Like
19:23
Speaker 4: they don't get a cushy MCG.
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Speaker 5: I mean a brand you sit down, I mean yeah.
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Speaker 6: So I just think there are a lot of things
19:31
Speaker 6: that are for show in the charity world and that
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Speaker 6: really frustrates me. Like true charity is done from the
19:37
Speaker 6: kindness of your heart, from a place that does not
19:41
Speaker 6: troud your heart with guilt. It is done from a
19:44
Speaker 6: place of actually wanting a better world, and it's usually
19:47
Speaker 6: done really humbly, and we're not talking about it, and
19:50
Speaker 6: we're not. You know, it's good to talk about it
19:52
Speaker 6: because it might be motivating for other people to do
19:54
Speaker 6: it as well. But I just think, you know, it's
19:56
Speaker 6: not actually there as a status symbol or to make
19:59
Speaker 6: you look like a better person.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I agree with that completely.
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Speaker 4: So be me as a modest individual, not much money.
20:07
Speaker 4: What can I do? And people like me? What can
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Speaker 4: we do to make a change?
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Speaker 6: Okay, So my favorite thing that you could do personally
20:15
Speaker 6: that does not involve any money, and you get a
20:17
Speaker 6: free snack. You're in You're free snack, so you can
20:21
Speaker 6: get a free snack, you can get a free milkshake,
20:23
Speaker 6: unlimited cookies, staffage trolls. Yeah, okay, it's giving blood to
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Speaker 6: the Australian Red Cross.
20:28
Speaker 5: Oh she got me?
20:29
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah right. So one in three Australians will need
20:32
Speaker 6: a blood transfusion in their lives and it's so easy
20:36
Speaker 6: to roll up your sleeve and donate and get a
20:38
Speaker 6: free snack. It is free to do, and there are
20:41
Speaker 6: permanent blood donation centers scattered across our country. And then
20:45
Speaker 6: there's also a mobile donor van that visits some universities
20:48
Speaker 6: that you could just like literally step out of the
20:50
Speaker 6: classroom on your break and you donate some blood. If
20:54
Speaker 6: needles aren't really your thing. I totally get that. As
20:57
Speaker 6: somebody who used to faint at the site of a needle,
21:00
Speaker 6: we get that. The Red Cross Blood Bank is actually
21:02
Speaker 6: also always looking for volunteers to keep donors wel fed
21:06
Speaker 6: and hydrated before they head home, because if you donate blood,
21:09
Speaker 6: you need to kind of stick around for like fifteen
21:11
Speaker 6: minutes to make sure, okay, you don't faint or whatever.
21:13
Speaker 6: Another good one is Clean Up Australia Day, for example.
21:17
Speaker 6: And with so many other initiatives and organizations around the
21:20
Speaker 6: country that you can support, I feel like there's always
21:22
Speaker 6: a way to support the world without giving cash. It
21:25
Speaker 6: doesn't always have to come back to money. I mean,
21:27
Speaker 6: these is shees on the money, but it doesn't have
21:29
Speaker 6: to come back to money. Can sometimes just be doing
21:32
Speaker 6: good and being good and it could be your time.
21:34
Speaker 6: Do you know what It could be you going for
21:36
Speaker 6: your morning coffee walk and seeing some rubbish on the
21:38
Speaker 6: ground and just popping it in the bin. I do
21:40
Speaker 6: think that what goes around comes around, and the energy
21:43
Speaker 6: that you put out I'm such a fluffy human being,
21:45
Speaker 6: but the energy that you put into the universe comes
21:48
Speaker 6: back threefold. Like if you do good things, good things
21:51
Speaker 6: come to you. And it goes back to that, you know,
21:54
Speaker 6: positive mindset kind of thing, like why are we doing
21:57
Speaker 6: it if you expect credit for it? That gives me
21:59
Speaker 6: the don't do it for the credit. Do it from
22:01
Speaker 6: the goodness of your heart. Full stop NDUS story. I
22:03
Speaker 6: probably think that's the end of the episode.
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Speaker 5: Yep, amen, I love that. Let's get out of here.
22:08
Speaker 5: Let's get out of here, have a lovely evening.
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Speaker 2: See you on Friday.
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Speaker 5: Game Then bye?
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