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Raising Resilient Athletes Without Burnout with Joel Molina | Ep 111 · The Driven Athlete

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  SPEAKER_01: If you're a driven, active person who wants to reach and pursue a higher quality life with some ambition, then guess what?
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  SPEAKER_01: This podcast is for you.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is the Driven Athlete Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: What's up, y'all?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's your man, Dr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Kyle.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the Driven Athlete Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: We got uh Coach Joel Molina with us.
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  SPEAKER_01: Coach Mo.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_01: I know you're a busy dude.
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  SPEAKER_01: You got a busy gym uh uh facility in in Wellington.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I appreciate you coming down and sharing some of your insights.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh man, thank you for having me.
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  SPEAKER_01: So tell everybody uh what what you do and when where your gym is at.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, my name is Joel Molina, and um I I am a fitness professional and I've been in the in the fitness industry for over 22 years.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um we have uh studio, a gym um called 1820 to fitness.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh we serve uh just a general population and also athletes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Those are the two like the two main uh niches, I will say.
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  SPEAKER_01: So active adults, active adults, yes athletes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, which is exactly that's what we treat.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh we tell people like we treat active adults and then athletes.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: Youth athletes, uh college guys, occasional pro guys, depending on season and stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you're in Wellington.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're uh more West Palm.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's more like military and summit.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's considered West Palm.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, we're not that far from Wellington.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and you um you played baseball professionally for a little while.
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  SPEAKER_00: We yeah, growing up, yeah, that's that was my main sport.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had the chance to have a really short career as a baseball player.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, coaching college for several years, years and in high school as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: What'd you coach in college?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh PBA.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh gosh.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: In 2000, I'll say uh it was 2005 to seven, something like that, or four to seven, like two, three years under Rob Avila.
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  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was uh the head coach at the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: PBA's gotten, they've got a good program, you know, like for a lot of sports, you know, they've definitely gotten competitive and like grown, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it is funny because that's how I got to West Palm.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, I was in Puerto Rico uh looking to do do that jump to play college baseball in in the United States.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know how PBA started reaching out, and I came, I didn't even know West Palm Beach it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I only knew about Orlando and Miami.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, totally.
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  SPEAKER_00: So so came in and um actually, you know, came in for a semester, didn't didn't work out for me um for different different reasons, but went back to Puerto Rico, and it's funny that then I ended up backing in in West Palm and and coaching a PVA that was kind of weird, but it was a cool story too.
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  SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um well that's that's cool.
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  SPEAKER_01: And volleyball was also a big part of your life, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: I know Puerto Rico, it's popular.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, my daughters play, uh, grew up playing, uh, love, you know, the culture and just the the volleyball, you know, like the professional league in Puerto Rico and and even the kids, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: They they just it's just a very growing sport uh besides baseball, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah so it's school.
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  SPEAKER_01: It it was getting more popular.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I mean, I really didn't know much about it when I was going growing up in high school and stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: I played a little bit in middle school, and then I only played one year in high school, and um it was a small niche, like a small community.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's like I learned I played in college, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: So I and I learned like there's like Midwest, California, and then New England.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's like the regions, and that's it.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like the major volleyball presence in the United States.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep, yep, yep.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's small.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's true.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's true.
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  SPEAKER_00: But Puerto Rico's one of them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, yeah, international.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so you you treat athletes and active adults.
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  SPEAKER_01: What led you to get down this road of being a fitness professional?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, why go this route?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, kind of like I'm gonna make the long story short.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh I spent three and a half years as a civil engineer, and um, that's what I went to school for.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, engineer, civil engineering.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Where'd you go to school for that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh in Puerto Rico, University of Puerto Rico and Maya West.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's a very uh prestigious uh university in Puerto Rico.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh I used to call it the Harvard of Puerto Rico.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hard to get in and hard to get out to because it's hard to graduate.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: But after spending uh three and a half years there, I realized that that's not what I wanted to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everybody wanted to become an engineer or, you know, a doctor, you know, pursuing this career.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I was such such in love with baseball that then I realized that I wanted to do something uh in the sports uh realm, you know, and um and I didn't have anybody to help me uh through that process.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um so uh after that, then my GPA went up.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was uh I fell in love with the career.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I have an um a degree in PE coaching and and and sports conditioning from from the University of Puerto Rico and then um have have a dual master's in uh kinesiology.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh amazing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, um one with concentration in sports conditioning and the other one with corrective exercises and and orthopedic rehabilitation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Cool, that's amazing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, and that's great.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, for your setting, make a huge impact with people and the lens to like modify appropriately be um have detail oriented, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what was what was the turning point where you were like engineering?
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  SPEAKER_01: Nope, this is not for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh not wanting to go to class anymore.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to and yes, and not, you know, I I was a good student in high school, you know, uh 4.0 throughout.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, good athlete, good student.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um when I saw like I didn't want to go to class, I didn't have any motivation.
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  SPEAKER_00: I said, Well, I'm doing it to myself just because I want to please my dad or or follow on the footsteps of my siblings, I said, nah, I gotta, I gotta kind of like create my own route.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do your own thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Blaze your own trail.
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  SPEAKER_00: How many siblings do you have?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh two.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, we're five total for my dad's first round, but then three.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I'm in the middle.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, your middle child.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh my wife's a middle child.
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  SPEAKER_00: Really?
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm the I'm the youngest.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm the baby in my family.
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  SPEAKER_00: What did they say about them, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Are we what is it?
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  SPEAKER_01: I think it's I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's different.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, like I I bet she would say like more of like the forgotten, you know, sibling.
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't want to say that, but I thought in the middle.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, the oldest one is like blazing the new trail, the youngest one's the baby, so the new detention, and like, oh, we forgot about the middle kid.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Course Joel.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's probably doing something.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's probably fine.
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  unknown: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it can lead to more independence.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: But um, that's what I've heard, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh for me too, it was kind of like I had this role model and my brother.
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  SPEAKER_00: Great.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, best friends.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh and then I got my sisters or four years support, but then I find myself kind of like in the middle.
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  SPEAKER_00: So always trying to please everyone.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, do I have to be like my brother and then my sister, you know?
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  SPEAKER_01: The people pleaser.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the other one.
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  SPEAKER_01: People pleaser.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it was hard.
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  SPEAKER_01: But what so that was a big deal then for you to like shift gears and be like, I'm not gonna go the expected path.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: The self-expectations you probably had.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then you were like, I'm gonna go fitness and then kinesiology.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the thing is that like then I had to ask myself, what route?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I knew I loved sports, but they didn't have like nowadays, every college they have an exercise science department.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like now it becomes a sign.
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  SPEAKER_00: But back in the days, all you have to choose was a peak route.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, uh, at least in Puerto Rico.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, and for me was let me do it right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they have a program uh or services at the university where you go and get counseling, and I took a bunch of tests, and and then that's how I landed, kind of to confirm what I wanted.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because what I wanted was to continue to pursue my baseball career, you know?
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  SPEAKER_00: So so that's how the shift uh happened.
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  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's good because here you are, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep, yep, yep.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um what would you say is like your like your wheelhouse, like your favorite type of clientele?
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the one like your favorite, like the people that's like, man, I really get energized with this in the athletic realm, believe it or not, it's um are those who are not necessarily the top athletes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because they come in with a hunger and they're like sponges, you know, they want to learn.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're very like they don't have no reference of a lot of things.
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  SPEAKER_00: They just they're there because they really need you.
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  SPEAKER_00: The other ones that they're more on the elite, uh, because remember the the ceiling, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh probably it's already there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's a little uh I say it's tougher for for me to take him there when it comes to allow them to buy into it.
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  SPEAKER_00: For instance, if I have I have uh one specific athlete that it is uh super strong and he's only a tenth grader.
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  SPEAKER_00: This guy could be playing football, but he's a baseball player, he's super strong, but it is super tight and doesn't move well.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I always tell them, hey, I know that I can put uh this entire gym on your back and you squat it.
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to prove me your strength, but you can't move for nothing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you're too young for this.
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  SPEAKER_00: What would you what will your life look like when you're my age, you know?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then I always tell them, I want you to buy into this for me, so that education part.
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  SPEAKER_00: But then they have this other kid, for instance, that it is probably less athletic, but come he comes in with uh hunger and a desire, and you tell them something, they buy into it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Those are the ones that are fun because um they get to experience uh greater results, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And the scale of just results faster too.
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  SPEAKER_00: And there's a joy when they go, hey coach, look at what I did this weekend, or parents are reaching out.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hey, thank you for what you're doing with Johnny, for example, just to use a name.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um uh we notice that he's faster and then he's sleeping more because you told him this and that, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we It's like he's he's listening, yeah, buying it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, so it's the mindset, the humility mindset for sure, openness, uh, and then like accepting it and like putting into action.
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  SPEAKER_00: And those and and those are the same guys that they ask questions.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I love that.
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  SPEAKER_00: The other guys, you know, just stay quiet, yes, they go do it, but you know, it's just different.
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  SPEAKER_00: I always tell them that if you I I like to uh ask the question instead of too much coaching.
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  SPEAKER_00: At the beginning, you do a lot of coaching, but then how do you feel about that?
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  SPEAKER_00: How do you feel about that movement?
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  SPEAKER_00: Allow them to really all right, uh was I present during that movement mentally?
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  SPEAKER_00: I I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: The the how do you see your knees were were going on that on that jump or that landing or that squat?
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  SPEAKER_00: And they if they get to answer, that that means that they're learning inside.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you know and you're aware, then you feel, and then you it's a lot easier to correct.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, so I have you noticed a trend of like a lot more of the kids are getting or have that mindset coming in, or a lot of them like I know what I'm doing, like and not taking it to heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or a mix?
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  SPEAKER_00: I I'll say a mix, depending.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I I'll blend that to the home as well, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, the way they were raised.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's super, that's the most influential thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, in my opinion, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mine too, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So so it's a mix.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a mix.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um are more kids specializing earlier now, or is it the same?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: It no, they still specialize in that.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's that's still something that I I've been fighting for decades, you know, and it is hard because and maybe this is something you can help me answer, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Every time every time I talk to someone is man, what when is your off season?
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  SPEAKER_00: There's none.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's take valuable for a for example.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, they play in the fall in high school, so they start in July and they go all the way until probably those who went all the way probably last week.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then club practice just started last week.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it is twice a week again, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
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  SPEAKER_00: They got the first tournament in December, and then in January, they start all the way to June, July to finish up with AAUs.
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  SPEAKER_00: So none.
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  SPEAKER_00: Probably they have four weeks in the year in different times.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when I mean professional athletes, they have enough season, yeah, and in season, they get paid for it, right?
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: And then these amateurs they don't have one, so yeah, they don't have time to multi-sport because they just don't have it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're doing too much.
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  SPEAKER_01: I definitely am an advocate for not specializing in like multi-sport athlete variety, general athleticism.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, because it carries over, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Of course.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but I get it though.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I because I was similar mindset where it's like if I'm not super focused and staying on my thing, I'm falling behind.
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  SPEAKER_01: Somebody else is outworking me and I'm falling behind.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna get left, or I'm not gonna be as good.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I have to specialize and I have to oh the club and then practice and then this and then oh now season's coming up, and like I can't stop.
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  SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, I'm gonna get right.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna get over.
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  SPEAKER_00: I remember my dad didn't, I guess the the reason why we're quitting practice all the sports, uh, it was my dad was always concerned, oh, don't be playing basketball because you don't want to twist an ankle and you know that that will be that'll be it for your baseball career.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then it was more like prevention, but because it was we were always outside playing this these sports just for fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then I guess we got a lot of the transfers, uh, you know, a lot of the skills that transferred to the sport because of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I totally agree.
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  SPEAKER_01: I will like because no, I totally agree.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think like the care, the transfer, the transferability, the carryover, the versatility.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, I definitely like it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I've I've talked with like scouts and I've heard other opinions from high-level athletes and stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're like, yeah, these guys, like the the high-level coaches and scouts look for multi-sport athletes because they know that they um they're just well-rounded, they have a good athleticism, and the skills transfer a lot better.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, uh, because I played and it was a weird combo.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, I played volleyball and football in college, but there's a lot of very a lot of similarities.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I personally I just enjoyed like the the change, you know, like I enjoyed the change.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like football season, cool, it's over.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now I'm excited to get my shoes on, go inside, and then do volleyball.
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  SPEAKER_01: But the uh there's a lot of similarities with like short burst explosion, um, the power, you know, output, um, and the vertical, you know, leap, of course, all that stuff, you know, quickness.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, all that there's similarities, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I feel like I transferred pretty well.
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  SPEAKER_00: Of course.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and I bet that those skills, you were still touching in those skills in each sport, but without thinking this is just for football.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, like this would be helpful to fall up, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Totally.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the mindset stuff too, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: But also there's a value to like the adaptability.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, can you change an adapt course?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, okay, you just finished basketball season, now can you go into baseball?
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, how well can you manage that adapt the adaptation?
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's happened with within sports.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um how can, like, for instance, uh, you could be an outfielder and then all of a sudden you become a pitcher, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: How can you adapt to that within the sport in itself?
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  SPEAKER_01: And if you're like one, if you're just bred and just led into be like one thing only over and over again, once you're outside that comfort zone lane, you're just like useless, you know.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's just not gonna help a value for a person and also just development, you know, for the future.
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  SPEAKER_01: What do you what do you tell people, like your athletes?
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  SPEAKER_01: Coach every time Coach, should I specialize or not?
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: They I don't honestly, I don't I don't think I have ever had one athlete coming with that specific question.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know, because they don't we use a um hey coach, uh can I normally they'll say um honestly they don't.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: They I have to say, hey man, um what what's going on?
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: Are we playing other sports?
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, my dad, or no, no, no, we have travel, oh no, we are in season.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um so there's they just don't know.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: They're not even aware.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: And that's a thing.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: Then we have some that they're asked, Coach, I play football, and I say, Yes.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: Totally.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: Well, my dad.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: And then when I talk to parents, they just don't want that to happen because they're afraid of the sport, you know, it's getting injured contact.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, hindering their other sport.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like I've said to people, like, it's gonna make you a better other sport person.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like if you play baseball or basketball, it's like, well, should I play football?
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, no, I don't want you to get hurt.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, it's good playing that other sport's gonna make you better at basketball.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but you know this more than I do.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: So, what are the chances for them to really get injured playing the sport?
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: They might blow their knee just going down the stairs.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: Right exactly 100%, right?
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: The chances are higher.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, so anything can happen.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and are just in their own sport, but also the specialization increases the risk of injury as well because it's a repetitive use and then lack of rest.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_01: So anyway, I'm anyway.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_01: I'm an advocate.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: We're on the same team for sure.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: Me too.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_01: So, what was it like growing up in Portugal?
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: Because you're outside a lot playing a ton of different things.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: You played baseball, volleyball, soccer.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, not really soccer at the time that I was in college was starting growing.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: So when I was in my under during my undergrad, um, you know, it was started becoming very popular, you know.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um soccer was always seen during my time as a child, you know, something that was done in other parts of the world.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, interesting.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it wasn't huh.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: So you played, but you grew up, I mean, you're yeah, but you kick a ball here and there, you know, like um, but you're outside all day.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: Mainly handball.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you know, uh, we'll play basketball, volleyball, um, frisbee, uh tag, you know.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, we're just running around in the bike, but skateboarding.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: Social media wasn't a thing yet.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: Or cell phones.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: No, he wasn't.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh skateboarding, you know, rollerblading, all that stuff.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: And think about how it's transferred when it comes to balance and coordination.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: Totally, you know.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: So I want to get I want to get my kids or my daughter, because she's the oldest right now, but into um figure skating.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, so I think I think be really good for balance and coordination.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yes, because she and also she's similar from right now, she's only five, right?
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm like, maybe in a year or two, you know, like we'll dabble in because we went to ice skate with a friend or something like that.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_01: She loved it.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I was standing behind, I'm not I am not a good skater.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like I the the two the two things I never really played was um hockey and tennis.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: Other than that, I usually I played something of a lot, a little bit of everything else, you know.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but those two things I'm like totally bad, you know, incompetent.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: But um, so skating, I'm like terrible.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: So we went we went to ice skating with some friends at like the skate zone, you know, West Palm.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: She loved it.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I we're she has like the slider walker thing that for beginners, and I'm hanging on to it too.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm standing behind her, like we're going around cruising, and uh, she's trying to like take her hands off.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, good job.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: She turns around, looks at me, and she goes, Dad, and I'm like, Yeah, what's up?
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, Can you back up and like leave me leave me alone?
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, Yeah, totally.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go, you know, go ahead.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_02: No way.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_01: And this this was two years ago, so it was three, three and a half.
• 19:55
  unknown: Yeah.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: And you'd be taking her since?
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, unfortunately.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: Because we just uh we just you know we have three kids, it's hard, you know.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: But uh is she the oldest?
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: She's the oldest.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: So anyway, I want to go back and I'm like because of that experience, she loves she still talks about it.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I think that'd be really cool.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_01: But for the balance and stability and coordination, hard work, just discipline, yeah, it could be one facet of her athletic development that could be you know helpful.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, you know, of course.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: Then self-discovery, right?
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: So when my I had two daughters, uh, one is a sophomore in college, plays volleyball, and they both played play volleyball, but the other one is a senior in high school.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: And um when they were uh little, we exposed them to dance and soccer and basketball, and they did all the sports because I'm a big advocate of that, you know, multi sport.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: But um, after that, they just fell in love with volleyball.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: They just naturally gravitate towards that.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: And then even in high school, um, I said, hey, weightlifting, let's go, you know, track, do something.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and they would do it.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but then they would do it less and less because the time was more restricted, you know.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: I will will conflict with my my club practice or this and that.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: So interesting.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: It was it it is hard because that's how I education or parent education is key, but the reality is as they get older, they will want to specialize.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: They'll want to do what they just naturally are interested in.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: More and more.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: And then if if your heart is not in in another sport, then you can pick.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I guess that's why probably fitness could be an option.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, if you look at it as a sport, right?
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: My strength and conditioning path could be something that in my offseason I go there and I'm just gonna throw weights and learn how to balance and jump and run and change direction and things like that.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I feel like we, if we remove the the concept off season training for this young athlete, and I say, hey, I'm gonna do you know, an extension of P or or AP, AP weight training, like I call it, right?
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like advanced, right?
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's like class.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like a like like something that they could do and um and really improve their skills, you know.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: And if we programmed it right, then to be able to improve and do something.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, love that.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: I um another thing I was just thinking about too, with like having an off-season or changing seasons, it's this burnout.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you get you just like it becomes mundane and you just don't like it.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_01: The fire is gone, the passion.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: I always definitely reinvigorated a passion for whatever I was doing.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, when something ended and the new thing changed.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: And anyway, that's another opinion.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I don't know if it happened to you, but it used to happen to me when I was growing up in Puerto Rico, the summers, they're so long to me.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: So long that in July you're like, man, when's school's gonna start?
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: You know, yes, yes.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: I can always sleep in so much.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: So I feel like the same when you go from one sport to the next, so then you feel like, okay, uh, oh man, season is over.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: I can't wait for the next sport to start.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: So I guess reignite that passion.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's it's cool.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: When did you start noticing um your daughters like weaning and growing into like this is what I like to do the most?
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like what age?
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like 13.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: 13, okay.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like early adolescence.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's when they started.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I feel like I should have done a better job probably pushing other sports equally at the time.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: But the younger they were, you know, also was dealing with building the business at the same time and trying to like create a career for myself to provide for them.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, as a parent, it was it was tough as well.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: So totally tough.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's hard, it's a hard balance.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: Tough.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: I I feel like I I always like I I'm trying to reflect as best I can, which all we can do is just up reflect and have awareness.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, where do where is my mind?
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like what first thing in the morning, what am I thinking about before I go to bed?
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: What am I thinking?
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what am I what am I absorbed in?
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_01: And it's usually like the practice, the business, you know, followed by my own workouts.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, I'm just absorbed, I'm like, man, because it's it's super important for the whole, like for the for the survival of my family, right?
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: But um, but anyway, like, no, no, no, don't think about it right now.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: Be with my kids, you know, like I put this aside.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I've learned it, it's it's it's been hard for me, man, to be honest.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: That was that was a part the because now the older you get, you appreciate time a lot more.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: They there's things that you missed that now you can you can never go back.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: And now you want to make up for that.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: And then at the end of the day, the question is, was it worth it?
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a tough question too.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's a tough question because you wouldn't be, you have to have the means first.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: First, for sure.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_01: And as a man, uh this is what it is, this is my opinion again.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: Our first usual thoughts are provide and protect, protect, yes, be their security rock foundation.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_01: And if you don't, then you're a failure.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: You feel like oh my gosh, that'd be the worst.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: I dealt with that so many, and there's a lot of risk and overhead involved, of course, with owning a business, and other people too, because you want to make sure that the people that are believing in your vision, yeah, the mission, they say, okay, all right, I want to follow Coach here because he knows where he's going.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: And if you don't have that clear, yeah, you know.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_01: But but anyway, I I mean, I'm always open for advice because you have kids, you're more experienced than I am as a dad and a business owner.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: But um, I mean, I feel it's it has to be a balance.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: We're like, okay, it's understandable.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_01: Give yourself some grace where it's like you need to grind and you need to make sure things are in order, but then also not lose sight of like the all the little moments growing up with the kids and playing on Saturday or not staying too late.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like it has what do you anyway, what do you would you say?
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: What do you suggest?
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man, um, I guess because there is uh some regrets there in that department.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: And the other day, I'll say coaching my my daughter, when I use the word coaching, is because when they turn a certain age, then you your role as a dad changes.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_00: They're over 18, 19, 20.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_00: Now you you want to become a mentor.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: Uh somebody said, Hey, listen, this is what I will do.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: Then you know uh in the council of many, you find wisdom.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: So I hope that you listen and then you make your own decisions.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: However, it's hard because um, you know, there's a lot of regrets.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I was I was I was telling her that the worst feeling a human being can have is the feeling of regret.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I mean, I don't disagree.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: It hunts you, man.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: And um, even though you can say, Yeah, you gotta move on, yes, but you always because there's something that you cannot go back, you can create something new, yeah, but you cannot go back.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: You can't change it.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: And if it's there's relationships that they were affected or lost, then you just can't go back.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you can move on.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: You're not gonna be, you know, having a pity party over that, but it's it's a bad feeling, you know.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: So because there were many of those, I'll say to have a mentor uh sooner than later, and and whatever you're doing, you're pursuing is key that will keep you in unchecked, you know.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um I know that you you mentioned that you do uh devotionals and spins Bible studies and stuff and baseball chapel um and mentoring other people.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: Was that something that you sought out for your kids to be like, I'm your dad, I'm your rock, I'm your mentor totally.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but I also did you try to find another mentor like that for them as well to get a different to get different perspectives 100.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_00: So my my brother, he is uh like my best friend and my sister as well.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_00: And then some people they they it is easy to to tell them or to advise them that this is the right way to go because they have seen it.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: They know, oh puppy, when he he goes consult or he goes meet with someone, so it's easier to say, hey, um, and we're pretty tight family, so they go and have their lunch or a dinner with uh with their uncles, and but it's more like for mentorship, you know, whether it's a pastor or youth pastor, somebody like that.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, you know, it's uh it's always good.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_00: We need to have them.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it takes a village man to raise a kid.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that so it's important to have the right people though.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: The right people.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'd rather have one than 10 that you know, I want one that is quality, right?
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: Solid.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, solid.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: I've heard that um, yeah, the most influential component of like a kid getting re raised like in the village is who their parents are of their friends.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, oh, that's interesting.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_01: So there's a filter involved now of decision making of like where are we gonna hang out, you know what I mean?
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like us as as an as adults, we need to also clean up our closet every now and then of the people that are around us.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: Totally.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: Because they continue to see that and how we respond to life and who do we gravitate to, uh, who are our circle friends.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: And every now and then, I mean, you gotta do a cleanup, man.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: Say I don't need that friendship anymore.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_01: Totally.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta move on, which is hard.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I feel like I didn't really have a I had an epiphany maybe a couple of years ago, where I was like, I don't have to hang out with anybody I don't want to hang out with.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't even realize that until like a couple of years ago.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: Some kind of obligation or expectation.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't realize I was like, oh yeah, I could, I could could totally control my own life with who I surround myself with.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't have to hang out with people that I don't want to hang out with.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_00: This is awesome.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_00: I start with that too, because it was hard for me to say no.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's something that we need to learn and we need to teach our kids how to say no.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: Did you have that same epiphany?
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like, when was that for you?
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: Or am I late in the game?
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_01: No, no.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: It happened to me uh actually as a high schooler.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_00: I will say yes to everything and then I won't show up.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: So you just be like, yeah, yeah, sure.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: And then be like, I don't subconsciously, I don't want to go.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: But then that was that wasn't right neither, because they were expecting me and then they stopped inviting me.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_00: And then said, you know, it's okay to say no.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_00: And then you at the beginning it costs you, you know, to say no.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: But then then you learn, can we do that?
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even have to lie about the the reasons for it.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, I'm good.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_00: And that's it.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: They should respect that as well.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: And it'd be interesting to see like if they if a person doesn't respect that, then like, oh, thank you for letting me know where you're at.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: That just solidified me knowing more that I don't want to hang out with you.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not a bad thing, but just like, just not for me.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's fine.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like I'm gonna grab a move different directions.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I guess that if we continue to use the uh the sport terms, I need enough season.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's a great, I've never heard that before.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: I need enough season.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: That makes sense.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: That makes more sense now.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that doesn't mean that we're not going to ever probably spend time with that person or or go out.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_00: It just they may have enough season.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm overwhelmed with your presence.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's a great, it's great.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_01: I love that, you know.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: I um do you like I there's a I like Ryan Holliday a lot with Stoicism.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_01: He's he just writes Stoicism and he's like he's a younger dude, too.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_01: He's like late 30s.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like you expect like ancient philosophy, like, oh, he's in his 60s, this is a younger guy.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but this I listened to his podcast, some of his stuff, I like it.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_01: And there's something he said where he was like um talking to friends or people, the hardest thing is saying no.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_01: So, two things he did that I was like, I like that.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he put the word no on his wall, and then he put photos of his kids next to it.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: And he says, if I don't say no, like if I say yes to these obligations or work or whatever, which I need to, it's appropriate, but it's a balance.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: But if I say yes to that stuff, I'm saying no to them.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: So, what would what's the balance?
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like what's the trade-off?
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_01: There's sometimes you gotta say yeah, totally, but then if I do, that means I'm saying no.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_01: Is that worth it to say no to my kids?
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: And imagine if I do that consistently, year after year after year, it just leads to no relationship, which sucks and a consistency.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_00: And and I feel too that that's why it's so important to to have a daily approach to life, meaning a daily plan, you know, like I know, like I knew this was a thing today for for a couple weeks or for probably for a month.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: And it was a couple weeks out, yeah.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, so I I put it on my calendar and then it was on my to-do list.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: And even on today's activities, it was on my to-do list since last night, right?
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_00: I knew this is this is it.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_00: So I know that that's gonna dictate if it was there because I already made a commitment to that, but then that's gonna probably allow me to say no to three or four things that they're that they could wait.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_00: Make sense?
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: So I feel like that planning will also help you stay your course and and see when you're gonna say yes and when you're gonna say no.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_01: That makes some sense.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: 100%.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, totally.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, and I want to ask one more thing I was gonna say is the second thing that I like with Ryan Holliday was occasionally his calendar is empty, and then he'll show, he'll be like, people like, hey, can you do this?
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_01: Can you do that?
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_01: And he's like, I want to show you something real quick.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: This is my calendar, and it's blank.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_01: I want to keep it like that today.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: So that's my plan.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_01: My plan is to keep it empty today.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to add anything.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe next week or the week we can plan, but today or and to maybe tomorrow, like it's empty, and that's how it's gonna stay for right now.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I like that, which is saying, no, which is hard, you know.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, all right, so daily uh daily plan.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_01: Your daily devotional part of that.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, is that what you mean by that, too?
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that's the first thing.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like it, and this is this comes out of discipline, not emotion, because I don't feel to do it, but I have to do it for my mental health and my spiritual health as well.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_00: So something that works for me.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and um and hopefully that's something that will transfer indirectly to my generation, my spouse, you know, your kids, my wife, my kids.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_01: Because you'll see that.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, leaders lead by example.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_01: What uh what's it look like?
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like what's your daily routine look like for that?
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_01: So how do you fit it in?
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh first thing in the morning, you know, uh you have to I had I had to decide to make room for it.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: If it's uh I remember a mentor of mine said, if it's not in your in your schedule, your agenda, it's not important.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_00: So I fit it in.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: And then if I had to then need to wake up earlier, then let it be.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_00: So what time do you wake up?
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: Uh early, like I mean, not at five in the morning anymore, but like at seven, I'm up and that's the first thing I do.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: I just, you know, get up, get myself ready, and I have a designated area in my house for that.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like a quiet area.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like a quiet area, a little loft couch.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: I have already everything set up.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: And you have to be intentional.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: This is what I mean.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: So the night before, when I, you know, I go home late.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: So if I 9:30, stand, boom, I'm doing my thing.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: Then when I go upstairs, then I take my stuff, even the headset, because I don't want to wake up people when I'm listening to something or putting a little lo-fi music or something like that.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: I like lo-fi.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's very it gets in its own.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, of course.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I go there and I set up for the next day.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_00: So I have to be intentional about the next day, the day prior.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: So I wake up and then I have a um like a devotion.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's a notebook.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's a blank notebook, and that's where I put my stuff.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_01: Journaling.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_00: But my to-do list, little square, devo first, then study for this, study for that, read this, read that, then do this, do that, prep that program, blah, blah, blah, call these people, and then priority.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: And then now, I guess because of my oldest, she's very artistic when it comes to that.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: She every month she has a blank calendar.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: She just decorated with markers and colorful mark markers.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't like that, but I kind of like it now.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I just bought myself different colored pens and then I just go, yeah, go, okay, this is important, you know, high priority, you know, can wait.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_00: And then if I don't get to it, then I put an arrow in the box, meaning that goes to the next day.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: If it gets canceled, then I put an X.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_00: That wasn't that important.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: And if I I'm halfway through, so then I fill the box halfway.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: Keeps me accountable.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: I live with that.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_01: I've I've heard that.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's the second time I heard that from somebody that, you know, like a mentor figure that does very consistently.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_01: And they're like, have a have an area that's like your quiet area, your safe area, that's it, your comfort area, where you can do devotionals and meditate or meditate, mindful breathing, which I like value that so much.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_01: By no means am I practical.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_01: I need to get better at this, like totally, right?
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_01: Because I'm uh we're drowning right now.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like what I mean is like we're just doing a lot.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_01: With the kids.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_01: We've got an 11-month-old, a three-year-old, and a five-year-old.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_01: My wife's drowning more than I am.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I'm thinking I can be out here and with adults, you know, she's just drowning.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_01: But um, but I uh really value that because I think it's um so helpful for mental clarity, uh staying level-headed and reflecting on what's important.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and also just awareness, you know.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then your kids, like I've I've heard this from multiple people, like the your kids will notice it.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_01: You don't have to say anything, just do it, and then they'll just follow suit.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, Dad does it, I want to do that, or that's just that's how we are, you know, that's just a norm.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I would love that for them, you know, because otherwise, what are you gonna do?
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's gonna run around like all the stuff on your list will just be chaotic and crazy all the time.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, it make me think about this term the girls developed that it's not positive, it is not, but they say every time we go on vacation, they go, Yeah, vacation poppy.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_00: What does that mean?
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_00: What does that mean?
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, because they see they see poppy stressed throughout the week, and then how can I bring vacation poppy into my daily routine?
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: You know?
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: Vacation.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_01: So what yeah, what's vacation dad versus man?
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_00: At the moment I'm in the cart and we're traveling, we're flying anywhere.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_00: I I'm not I'm not thinking about anything, and I could be that's a true true me.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's that's who I am.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm joking around or we're laughing, we're having a good time, literally.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um and then then you have the other, the other side where the stress, or you know, so it's hard to have a balance, but that's why you have to be intentional because it's my mind and my spirit is rife from the get go.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_00: I can attack the difficulties of the day, you know, the phone calls of the clients or the cancellation.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_00: Or here, there, or this you gotta fix this, or you know, because they're always gonna come to you.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_01: Totally.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_00: And then you're the chapel for baseball community with PVA or with who?
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, with Major League.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I do it uh through Baseball Chapel, which is uh an organization uh nationwide, uh internationally as well.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_00: So during spring training, I serve the Washington Nationals, but they're here.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the big club and uh the minor league.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: And then during the season, I go to the Palm Beach Cardinals in Jupiter.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I you know, and I serve there through throughout the season.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_00: Do you go like to their facility to uh your house?
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_00: I go to the facility to the clubhouse.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_00: And they know that I'm coming, they just gather, you know, the cafeteria and then I do my teaching and you know, with them for half hour.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_01: Cool, you know, so that'll start up in February.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_01: I might need to go with you.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, check it out.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_00: Whenever.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: That'd be cool.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that it's awesome.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's just a great experience.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because I mean, those are the things that like really there's nothing, there's no return.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, eternal return or spiritual return or emotional return, but there's nothing that you're doing for, oh, I gotta do this for work.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this is gonna produce my ROI, none of that.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_00: It is totally for the love of the game, meaning people.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_01: You're not expecting anything.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah, yeah, yes.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's just I love doing it.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_00: And it is also sacrificial because uh, for example, the Palm Beach Cardinals, they like their divos when they're home on Sundays early in the morning.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_00: So on Sunday, I gotta wake up early, gotta go there, but it's worth it, man.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_00: Connecting with people, the hard part is you start connecting with these players, and then some of them get promoted, which is what you want to see.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_00: And some of them get released, and then you get that you know, a text or hey, yeah, it was nice meeting you, but I got released.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's uh that's hard.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so it's it's tough.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um, well, let's uh let's land the plane.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_01: We'll have to get you back and do it, do it again.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_01: One last question.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_01: What message would you give uh parents of athletes who want to excel in their sport and just grow?
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_01: What would you suggest?
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_00: Man, that's a deep question.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because I I think the first thing that comes to mind is deeper communication.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_00: And this is what I mean.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of times parents uh take the kids to sports and they see the their development and they see that they have probably a future, right?
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_00: Whether it is high school and college, and probably professionally, they're there and they're they communicate superficially.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_00: Meaning, hey, how how was how do you feeling?
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_00: And what do you think the answer is gonna be?
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_00: Good, correct, short, and they keep going.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_00: And the reason I say that, that to be to have more profound or or deeper communication.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, I remember that I started this with my daughters because I understood that it was going that way when they started growing up and get into high school.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, how was your day at school?
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_00: Good, kept walking.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_00: And then I used to say this, hey, how was your day at school?
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_00: Good.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_00: No, I don't want to hear that.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh just start with I walked in as uh 745, put my backpack in the corner.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like we like I just started saying that to them so they knew that I won't specific.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_00: And before you know it, conversations start going for 35 minutes.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_00: And then we we were involved.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_00: Because a lot of times, then as a coach, some of these athletes will come in and they'll tell me these things.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_00: Because I asked them in the gym the same thing.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm an extension, like a village, right?
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm an extension of their parents.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_00: How was your day today?
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: Good classes are good.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_00: How many classes are you taking?
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I am delving deeper into my questioning.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_00: What classes are you taking?
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_00: I remember, but oh yeah, AP and how's that going?
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we had a test today and this and that, and then we start going and then we see, but I wasn't feeling good today.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I haven't even asked them about anything, how their body physically feels, but then that probably will get me into them saying, Yeah, and if it's a female, sometimes we have developed the the trust that they say yes, and yeah, I'm on my period today.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: And then that'll tell me something about what we're about to do.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the performance might be affected emotionally, so many things.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not having a good day before you know it.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_00: You start gathering this information that if you need to auto-regulate that day for training, then you do so and so be it.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what one training set session is going to do when it comes to the vertical of the strength?
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_00: Really, nothing, right?
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_00: That day.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_00: So that that's something that I've learned throughout.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_00: And so the question I'll say deeper communication, so they know.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um they'll open up about what they're struggling with, what they like, they don't like.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, I didn't even know you didn't like playing soccer or baseball or basketball or volleyball or whatever.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_00: I've been pushing that because you know, I want to fulfill my dreams and you or something like that.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_01: Or if they're like, I'm really into this, and like, oh, let's double down and like let's really hit the gas pedal on that.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_00: Correct.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_00: And some of them they do a good job, but I feel like um that's the main thing that'll say uh deeper communication so you know.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because sometimes the kids don't want to tell the coach, hey man, um I'm really hurting.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_00: And then the the parent got to step in and have that communication with the coach, you know.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_01: So cool.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we'll let uh we'll have to get you in and we can dive more into like specifics of like kinesiology and training.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we didn't talk anything about that.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: We'll get you in again, we'll do it again.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh where how can people find you?
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like they want to call you, hit you up.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and we uh our website and our Instagram at 1822 fitness.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_00: 1822 fitness and 1822fitness.com.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_00: And then I have also my own professional account, coach.joel Molina, as well, where I put my content for athletes and we got something called Mo Mondays.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_00: We try to like Mo Mondays, yeah, yeah.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_00: Something out there, kind of like in the same line of what we're doing in here.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_00: Any any topic, mental, you know, uh performance, things like that.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_00: I think there's so much uh in social media, so much that we just gotta be careful, right?
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_00: Because a lot of the a lot of the kids they come with high expectation.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_00: I want to do this uh seven inches in 30 days.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I go, like, really?
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like the expectation is high because oh, but can we do these exercises that I see in this account?
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_00: I said, hey, you cannot even touch your toes.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, not yet.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_00: You know, yeah, come on, yeah, you know, so it's hard because we're fighting, it's good.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I use it.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, social media is powerful, it has a role.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it has a role, but we got to be be smart, mindful and cool.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_01: All right, well, so they can shoot you a DM, visit your website, yeah, call you guys.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, awesome, yes, yes, yes.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, well, thanks for coming in.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, my pleasure, honored.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_01: And if you have any questions out there, if comments, questions, concerns, conflicting opinions, don't hesitate to reach out.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_01: We're always open to uh ideas, podcast ideas, podcast guests.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_01: And if you're battling any pain specifically, we'd love to help you.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_01: Feel free to call.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_01: We can at least talk on the phone and see like where you're at or what we might be able to help you with or direct you in a certain path.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_01: And uh yeah, don't hesitate to reach out if you need anything or coach Mo if you need anything from him.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_01: And we'll catch y'all next time.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_01: All right, guys.