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E 242: The Power of Horses: Stress Management and Self-Awareness w Guest Sue Willoughby · Adult Child of Dysfunction

• 0:47
  Well,
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  good
• 0:47
  morning
• 0:47
  everybody,
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  and
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  welcome
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  back
• 0:48
  to
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  another
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  episode
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  of
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  Adult
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  Child
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  of
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  Dysfunction.
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  Today
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  we
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  have
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  with
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  us
• 0:52
  Susan
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  Willoughby.
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  And
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  this
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  is
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  going
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  to
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  be
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  such
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  a
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  fun
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  one.
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  Susan
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  is
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  an
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  equus
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  coach,
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  a
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  truth
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  teller
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  and
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  reinvention
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  expert,
• 1:00
  helping
• 1:00
  women
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  over
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  40
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  ditch
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  the
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  burnout,
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  trust
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  their
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  gut,
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  and
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  live
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  boldly
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  with
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  horses
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  as
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  their
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  guides.
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  I
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  love
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  this
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  sentence
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  too.
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  She
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  turns
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  midlife
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  meh
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  into
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  powerful,
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  purposeful
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  change.
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  Welcome,
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  Susan.
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  How
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  are
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  you
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  today?
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  I'm
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  well,
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  thank
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  you
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  so
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  much,
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  Tammy,
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  for
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  having
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  me
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  on.
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  You
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  are
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  very
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  welcome.
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  So
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  I'm
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  just
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  going
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  to
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  jump
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  right
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  into
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  it
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  because
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  I
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  love
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  my
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  dog.
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  First
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  of
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  all,
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  my
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  daughter
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  loves
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  horses.
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  I
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  actually
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  got
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  thrown
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  from
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  an
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  Arabian.
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  I
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  was
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  thought
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  I
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  was
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  gonna
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  ride
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  this
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  hardly
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  ever
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  been
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  ridden
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  horse
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  when
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  I
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  was
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  about
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  12
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  years
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  old
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  and
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  got
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  thrown.
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  Well,
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  didn't
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  even
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  get
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  thrown.
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  Died
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  throat
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  tossed,
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  foot
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  caught
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  in
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  the
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  stirrup,
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  kicked
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  about
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  18
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  times.
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  Didn't
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  get
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  back
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  on
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  a
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  horse
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  until,
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  oh
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  gosh,
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  when
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  I
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  went
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  horseback
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  riding
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  like
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  35,
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  40
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  years
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  later.
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  So.
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  But
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  my
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  daughter
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  absolutely
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  loves
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  horses
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  and
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  I
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  watched
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  her
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  and
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  what
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  she
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  wanted
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  to
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  do
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  was
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  worth
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  work
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  with
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  autistic
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  children
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  through
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  horses
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  and
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  I
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  thought,
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  how
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  crazy.
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  Like
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  how,
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  how,
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  what's
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  good
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  therapy?
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  You
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  know,
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  I,
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  and
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  I
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  watch
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  on
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  TikTok
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  all
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  these
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  videos
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  of
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  people
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  like
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  little
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  kids
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  hugging
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  their
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  horses
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  and
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  children
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  with
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  down
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  syndrome
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  just
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  like
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  feeding
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  the,
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  like
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  feeling
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  the
• 2:10
  energy.
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  And
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  so
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  I'm,
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  I'm
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  enthralled,
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  but
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  I
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  know
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  absolutely
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  nothing
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  about
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  the
• 2:14
  topic.
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  So
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  I'm
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  excited
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  to
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  have
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  you
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  here.
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  Yeah.
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  So
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  what,
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  what
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  exactly
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  is
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  equus
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  coaching?
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  Let's
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  start
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  there.
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  Yeah.
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  So
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  equus
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  coaching
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  is
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  a
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  partnership
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  with
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  my
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  equine
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  counterparts
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  to
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  work
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  in,
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  in
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  tandem
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  to
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  help
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  clients
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  realize
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  their
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  own
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  potential,
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  their
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  own
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  answers
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  and
• 2:42
  everything
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  that
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  lies
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  within
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  them.
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  So
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  horses
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  act
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  as
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  a
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  sort
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  of
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  a
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  feedback
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  loop,
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  you
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  might
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  say,
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  because
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  I'm
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  watching
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  the
• 2:55
  horse's
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  behavior
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  as
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  they're
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  interacting
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  with
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  the
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  clients
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  and
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  that
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  gives
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  me
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  some
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  really
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  valuable
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  information
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  on
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  how
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  to
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  ask
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  really
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  good
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  open
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  ended
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  coaching
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  questions
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  and
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  get
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  to
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  sort
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  of
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  the
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  crux
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  of
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  the
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  issue
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  or
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  what
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  somebody
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  is
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  really
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  struggling
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  with
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  rather
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  than
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  what
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  they're
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  telling
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  me
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  they're
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  struggling
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  with
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  through
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  their
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  connection
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  with
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  the
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  horse.
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  So
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  that's,
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  that's
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  it
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  in
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  a
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  nutshell.
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  Right,
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  Right.
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  And
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  I'm
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  sure
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  it's
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  way
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  more
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  complicated
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  than
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  that.
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  And
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  is
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  it
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  give.
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  Tell
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  me,
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  I
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  mean,
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  why
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  our
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  horse?
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  Do
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  horses
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  have
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  a
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  spiritual
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  kind
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  of
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  instinctual
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  vibe,
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  kind
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  of
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  like
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  dogs
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  do
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  different?
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  Yes.
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  And
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  it's
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  one
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  of
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  those
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  yes
• 3:38
  and
• 3:39
  answers
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  horses,
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  because
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  they
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  are
• 3:42
  prey
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  animals,
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  right?
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  Horse,
• 3:44
  our
• 3:45
  dogs,
• 3:45
  are
• 3:45
  predators,
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  right?
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  Their
• 3:46
  eyes
• 3:47
  are
• 3:47
  in
• 3:47
  the
• 3:47
  front
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  of
• 3:47
  their
• 3:47
  head.
• 3:47
  Horses
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  are
• 3:48
  prey
• 3:48
  animals.
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  So
• 3:49
  everything
• 3:50
  about
• 3:50
  their
• 3:51
  being
• 3:52
  is
• 3:52
  about
• 3:53
  survival.
• 3:53
  All
• 3:54
  of
• 3:54
  the
• 3:54
  information
• 3:54
  that
• 3:55
  they
• 3:55
  take
• 3:55
  in
• 3:55
  through
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  all
• 3:56
  of
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  their
• 3:56
  senses,
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  including
• 3:57
  every
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  cell
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  of
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  their
• 3:59
  skin.
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  You
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  know,
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  they
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  can
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  sense
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  a
• 4:01
  little
• 4:01
  tiny
• 4:01
  fly
• 4:02
  in
• 4:02
  their
• 4:02
  butt
• 4:02
  and
• 4:02
  just
• 4:02
  twitch
• 4:03
  that
• 4:03
  little
• 4:03
  area
• 4:03
  of
• 4:04
  skin
• 4:04
  to
• 4:04
  get
• 4:04
  it
• 4:04
  off.
• 4:05
  But
• 4:06
  they're
• 4:06
  taking
• 4:06
  in
• 4:07
  information
• 4:08
  constantly
• 4:09
  and
• 4:09
  they're
• 4:09
  processing
• 4:10
  it
• 4:10
  because
• 4:10
  they
• 4:11
  want
• 4:11
  to
• 4:11
  know,
• 4:11
  am
• 4:11
  I
• 4:11
  safe?
• 4:12
  Is
• 4:12
  this
• 4:13
  thing
• 4:13
  or
• 4:14
  this
• 4:14
  person
• 4:14
  or
• 4:15
  this
• 4:15
  other
• 4:15
  horse
• 4:16
  going
• 4:16
  to
• 4:16
  be
• 4:16
  a
• 4:16
  threat
• 4:16
  to
• 4:17
  me
• 4:17
  or
• 4:17
  is
• 4:17
  there
• 4:18
  some
• 4:18
  predator
• 4:18
  that's
• 4:19
  stalking
• 4:19
  me?
• 4:20
  So
• 4:20
  they're
• 4:20
  taking
• 4:20
  in
• 4:21
  information
• 4:21
  all
• 4:21
  the
• 4:22
  time.
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  And,
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  and
• 4:23
  when
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  they
• 4:24
  do
• 4:24
  that,
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  and
• 4:25
  when
• 4:26
  they
• 4:26
  communicate
• 4:26
  with
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  their
• 4:27
  herd
• 4:27
  members,
• 4:27
  because
• 4:28
  they're
• 4:28
  also
• 4:28
  herd
• 4:29
  animals,
• 4:30
  they
• 4:30
  have
• 4:31
  this
• 4:31
  beautiful
• 4:32
  non
• 4:32
  verbal
• 4:32
  communication
• 4:33
  with
• 4:34
  the
• 4:34
  other
• 4:34
  members
• 4:35
  of
• 4:35
  their
• 4:35
  herd.
• 4:36
  And
• 4:36
  when
• 4:36
  we
• 4:37
  are
• 4:37
  in
• 4:37
  their,
• 4:38
  you
• 4:38
  know,
• 4:39
  their,
• 4:39
  their
• 4:39
  bubble,
• 4:40
  their
• 4:40
  space,
• 4:41
  we're
• 4:41
  one
• 4:41
  of
• 4:41
  the
• 4:42
  herd
• 4:42
  members.
• 4:43
  And
• 4:43
  so
• 4:43
  they're
• 4:44
  assessing,
• 4:45
  you
• 4:45
  know,
• 4:45
  from
• 4:45
  a
• 4:47
  point
• 4:47
  of,
• 4:48
  you
• 4:48
  know,
• 4:48
  heart
• 4:48
  connection,
• 4:49
  biorhythms,
• 4:51
  they're,
• 4:52
  they're
• 4:52
  sensing
• 4:52
  what
• 4:53
  is
• 4:53
  coming
• 4:53
  from
• 4:54
  inside
• 4:54
  of
• 4:54
  us,
• 4:55
  not
• 4:55
  the
• 4:56
  face
• 4:56
  that
• 4:56
  we
• 4:57
  present
• 4:57
  to
• 4:57
  the
• 4:58
  world.
• 4:58
  They
• 4:58
  don't
• 4:59
  even
• 4:59
  see
• 4:59
  that,
• 5:00
  you
• 5:00
  know,
• 5:00
  they,
• 5:01
  they
• 5:01
  connect
• 5:01
  with
• 5:01
  us
• 5:02
  on
• 5:02
  a
• 5:02
  much
• 5:02
  deeper
• 5:03
  level.
• 5:03
  So
• 5:03
  when
• 5:03
  you
• 5:04
  were
• 5:04
  talking
• 5:04
  about,
• 5:05
  you
• 5:05
  know,
• 5:06
  autistic
• 5:06
  children
• 5:07
  or
• 5:07
  children
• 5:08
  with,
• 5:08
  you
• 5:08
  know,
• 5:08
  special
• 5:09
  needs,
• 5:09
  I
• 5:09
  mean,
• 5:09
  that's
• 5:10
  how
• 5:10
  I
• 5:10
  kind
• 5:10
  of
• 5:11
  got
• 5:11
  started
• 5:11
  connecting
• 5:12
  horses
• 5:12
  with
• 5:13
  humans
• 5:14
  back
• 5:14
  when
• 5:15
  I
• 5:15
  was
• 5:15
  a
• 5:15
  teenager
• 5:16
  working
• 5:16
  at
• 5:16
  a
• 5:16
  summer
• 5:17
  camp
• 5:17
  for
• 5:17
  individuals
• 5:18
  with
• 5:18
  special
• 5:18
  needs.
• 5:19
  Horses
• 5:20
  connect
• 5:21
  on
• 5:21
  a
• 5:21
  way
• 5:21
  that
• 5:22
  individuals
• 5:23
  that
• 5:24
  may
• 5:24
  not
• 5:24
  be
• 5:24
  able
• 5:24
  to
• 5:25
  communicate
• 5:26
  through
• 5:26
  autism
• 5:27
  or
• 5:27
  whatever
• 5:28
  that
• 5:28
  are
• 5:28
  nonverbal
• 5:29
  can
• 5:29
  connect
• 5:30
  with
• 5:30
  the
• 5:30
  horse
• 5:31
  in
• 5:31
  a
• 5:31
  beautiful
• 5:31
  way
• 5:31
  because
• 5:32
  the
• 5:32
  horse
• 5:32
  does
• 5:32
  not
• 5:32
  understand.
• 5:33
  We
• 5:34
  can
• 5:34
  talk
• 5:34
  to
• 5:34
  the
• 5:34
  horse
• 5:34
  all
• 5:35
  day
• 5:35
  long,
• 5:35
  but
• 5:36
  a
• 5:36
  nonverbal
• 5:38
  person
• 5:39
  communicates
• 5:40
  with
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  horse
• 5:40
  on
• 5:40
  a
• 5:40
  different
• 5:41
  level.
• 5:41
  So
• 5:41
  when
• 5:42
  horses
• 5:42
  are
• 5:43
  communicating
• 5:43
  with
• 5:44
  us
• 5:44
  or
• 5:45
  taking
• 5:46
  in
• 5:46
  information
• 5:47
  from
• 5:47
  us,
• 5:48
  it's
• 5:48
  all
• 5:49
  at
• 5:49
  a,
• 5:50
  at
• 5:50
  a
• 5:50
  deep,
• 5:52
  you
• 5:52
  know,
• 5:53
  physical
• 5:53
  level
• 5:54
  so
• 5:54
  they
• 5:54
  can
• 5:54
  get
• 5:55
  us
• 5:55
  out
• 5:55
  of
• 5:55
  our
• 5:55
  heads
• 5:55
  and
• 5:56
  into
• 5:56
  our
• 5:56
  bodies.
• 5:57
  So
• 5:57
  many
• 5:57
  amazing
• 5:58
  things.
• 5:58
  So
• 5:59
  that's
• 5:59
  kind
• 5:59
  of
• 5:59
  a
• 6:00
  broad
• 6:00
  brush.
• 6:01
  Yeah.
• 6:02
  No,
• 6:02
  I
• 6:02
  mean,
• 6:02
  I
• 6:02
  think
• 6:03
  all
• 6:03
  of
• 6:03
  this
• 6:03
  is
• 6:03
  going
• 6:03
  to
• 6:03
  be
• 6:03
  a
• 6:04
  big,
• 6:04
  you
• 6:04
  know,
• 6:04
  the
• 6:04
  big
• 6:05
  picture
• 6:05
  kind
• 6:06
  of
• 6:06
  just
• 6:06
  generalization,
• 6:07
  because
• 6:08
  I
• 6:09
  didn't.
• 6:09
  I
• 6:09
  don't
• 6:10
  know.
• 6:10
  Yeah,
• 6:10
  I
• 6:10
  do.
• 6:11
  You
• 6:11
  know,
• 6:11
  it's
• 6:11
  kind
• 6:11
  of.
• 6:12
  But
• 6:12
  I
• 6:12
  feel
• 6:12
  like
• 6:13
  it's
• 6:13
  almost
• 6:13
  like,
• 6:14
  I
• 6:14
  mean,
• 6:14
  a
• 6:14
  horse
• 6:16
  to
• 6:16
  me.
• 6:17
  I
• 6:17
  feel
• 6:17
  like
• 6:17
  it's
• 6:18
  almost
• 6:18
  like,
• 6:18
  like
• 6:18
  I
• 6:18
  said,
• 6:19
  my
• 6:19
  dog,
• 6:19
  like
• 6:19
  my
• 6:19
  dog
• 6:20
  knows
• 6:20
  when
• 6:20
  I'm
• 6:20
  sick.
• 6:21
  I
• 6:21
  don't
• 6:21
  have
• 6:21
  to
• 6:21
  say
• 6:21
  I
• 6:21
  don't
• 6:22
  feel
• 6:22
  Good.
• 6:22
  She
• 6:22
  senses
• 6:23
  it
• 6:23
  and
• 6:23
  she.
• 6:24
  And
• 6:24
  the
• 6:25
  end,
• 6:25
  she
• 6:25
  reacts
• 6:26
  to
• 6:26
  that.
• 6:27
  So
• 6:27
  what
• 6:27
  are
• 6:27
  some,
• 6:28
  like,
• 6:28
  what
• 6:28
  would
• 6:28
  give
• 6:28
  me
• 6:28
  an
• 6:29
  example
• 6:29
  of.
• 6:30
  Let's
• 6:30
  say
• 6:30
  you're
• 6:30
  working
• 6:30
  with
• 6:31
  a
• 6:31
  client
• 6:32
  and
• 6:32
  that
• 6:33
  client
• 6:33
  is
• 6:34
  really
• 6:34
  torn
• 6:35
  up,
• 6:35
  like
• 6:35
  just
• 6:36
  really,
• 6:37
  really
• 6:37
  distraught.
• 6:38
  What
• 6:38
  are
• 6:39
  some
• 6:39
  things
• 6:39
  you
• 6:39
  would
• 6:39
  look
• 6:39
  for
• 6:40
  in
• 6:40
  the
• 6:40
  horse
• 6:40
  to
• 6:41
  where
• 6:41
  those
• 6:42
  aware
• 6:42
  that
• 6:42
  would
• 6:43
  make
• 6:43
  you
• 6:43
  aware.
• 6:44
  As
• 6:44
  you
• 6:44
  said,
• 6:44
  you
• 6:45
  kind
• 6:45
  of
• 6:45
  use
• 6:45
  the
• 6:45
  horse's
• 6:46
  cues
• 6:46
  to
• 6:47
  see
• 6:47
  what's
• 6:48
  really
• 6:48
  going
• 6:48
  on.
• 6:49
  Yes.
• 6:50
  So
• 6:50
  I
• 6:50
  would
• 6:50
  have
• 6:51
  had
• 6:51
  a
• 6:51
  conversation
• 6:52
  with
• 6:52
  the
• 6:52
  client
• 6:52
  and
• 6:53
  they
• 6:53
  may,
• 6:53
  there
• 6:53
  may
• 6:54
  be
• 6:54
  something
• 6:54
  that
• 6:54
  they
• 6:55
  are,
• 6:55
  they're
• 6:55
  working
• 6:55
  on.
• 6:56
  I
• 6:56
  don't
• 6:56
  know
• 6:56
  if
• 6:56
  it's
• 6:56
  grief
• 6:57
  or
• 6:57
  if
• 6:57
  it's
• 6:57
  something
• 6:58
  else.
• 6:58
  Now
• 6:58
  I'm
• 6:58
  not
• 6:58
  a
• 6:58
  licensed
• 6:59
  therapist,
• 6:59
  so
• 7:00
  I
• 7:00
  don't
• 7:00
  work
• 7:00
  with
• 7:01
  deep
• 7:01
  trauma.
• 7:02
  However,
• 7:03
  if
• 7:03
  someone
• 7:04
  has
• 7:05
  been
• 7:05
  in
• 7:05
  a
• 7:05
  trauma
• 7:06
  situation
• 7:06
  and
• 7:06
  is
• 7:07
  working
• 7:07
  through
• 7:07
  that
• 7:08
  with
• 7:08
  a
• 7:08
  therapist,
• 7:08
  they
• 7:09
  may
• 7:09
  come
• 7:09
  to
• 7:09
  have
• 7:10
  a
• 7:10
  little
• 7:10
  bit
• 7:11
  more
• 7:11
  of
• 7:11
  a
• 7:11
  deeper
• 7:12
  connection
• 7:13
  or
• 7:13
  get
• 7:14
  over
• 7:15
  a
• 7:15
  plateau
• 7:16
  or
• 7:16
  something.
• 7:17
  So
• 7:17
  if
• 7:17
  someone
• 7:17
  comes
• 7:18
  in
• 7:18
  there,
• 7:18
  they're
• 7:19
  having
• 7:19
  some
• 7:19
  emotional
• 7:21
  things
• 7:22
  that
• 7:22
  they're
• 7:22
  dealing
• 7:22
  with,
• 7:23
  whatever
• 7:23
  that
• 7:23
  is
• 7:24
  in
• 7:24
  their
• 7:24
  life,
• 7:24
  maybe
• 7:25
  divorce,
• 7:25
  maybe
• 7:26
  something
• 7:26
  else,
• 7:27
  who
• 7:27
  knows,
• 7:27
  right.
• 7:27
  Whatever
• 7:28
  it
• 7:28
  is,
• 7:30
  it
• 7:30
  depends
• 7:31
  on
• 7:31
  what,
• 7:32
  how
• 7:32
  they're
• 7:32
  presenting
• 7:33
  and
• 7:33
  what
• 7:33
  they're
• 7:34
  actually
• 7:34
  feeling.
• 7:35
  So
• 7:36
  by
• 7:36
  working
• 7:36
  with
• 7:37
  the
• 7:37
  horse,
• 7:39
  they
• 7:39
  may
• 7:39
  be,
• 7:40
  they
• 7:40
  may
• 7:40
  have
• 7:41
  been
• 7:41
  pushing
• 7:41
  all
• 7:42
  of
• 7:42
  these
• 7:42
  feelings
• 7:42
  or
• 7:43
  this
• 7:43
  emotional
• 7:45
  whatever
• 7:45
  it
• 7:46
  is
• 7:46
  that
• 7:46
  they're
• 7:46
  dealing
• 7:46
  with,
• 7:46
  they
• 7:47
  may
• 7:47
  have
• 7:47
  been
• 7:47
  pushing
• 7:47
  it
• 7:47
  down
• 7:49
  the
• 7:49
  horse
• 7:50
  can
• 7:50
  through
• 7:51
  the
• 7:51
  pure
• 7:52
  essence
• 7:52
  of
• 7:53
  being
• 7:53
  a
• 7:53
  horse.
• 7:54
  And
• 7:54
  that's
• 7:54
  the
• 7:55
  thing.
• 7:55
  They
• 7:55
  don't
• 7:55
  need
• 7:55
  any
• 7:56
  special
• 7:56
  training.
• 7:57
  They,
• 7:57
  they're
• 7:57
  just
• 7:58
  sensing,
• 7:59
  processing
• 8:00
  and
• 8:01
  reacting
• 8:02
  in
• 8:02
  accordance
• 8:03
  to
• 8:03
  what
• 8:04
  the
• 8:04
  other
• 8:04
  herd
• 8:04
  mate.
• 8:05
  In
• 8:05
  this
• 8:05
  sense,
• 8:06
  it
• 8:06
  would
• 8:06
  be
• 8:06
  the
• 8:06
  client
• 8:07
  is
• 8:08
  feeling
• 8:09
  and
• 8:09
  how,
• 8:10
  it's
• 8:10
  how
• 8:11
  what's
• 8:11
  going
• 8:11
  on
• 8:11
  inside
• 8:12
  their
• 8:12
  body.
• 8:13
  So
• 8:13
  people
• 8:13
  may
• 8:13
  not
• 8:14
  quite
• 8:14
  understand.
• 8:14
  Right.
• 8:15
  Because
• 8:15
  we
• 8:15
  spend
• 8:15
  a
• 8:15
  lot
• 8:15
  of
• 8:16
  time
• 8:16
  in
• 8:16
  our
• 8:16
  heads,
• 8:16
  let's
• 8:16
  face
• 8:17
  it.
• 8:17
  Right?
• 8:18
  Yeah.
• 8:19
  They're
• 8:19
  walking
• 8:20
  around
• 8:20
  and
• 8:20
  we're
• 8:20
  just
• 8:20
  like
• 8:20
  a
• 8:20
  head
• 8:21
  bobbing
• 8:21
  around.
• 8:22
  The
• 8:22
  horses,
• 8:23
  because
• 8:23
  they're
• 8:24
  present
• 8:24
  in
• 8:24
  every
• 8:24
  moment
• 8:25
  of
• 8:25
  their
• 8:25
  existence,
• 8:27
  force
• 8:27
  us
• 8:27
  to
• 8:28
  be
• 8:28
  as
• 8:29
  well.
• 8:30
  So
• 8:30
  they,
• 8:31
  they
• 8:31
  help
• 8:32
  us
• 8:32
  get
• 8:32
  grounded,
• 8:33
  they
• 8:33
  help
• 8:33
  us
• 8:34
  get
• 8:34
  back
• 8:34
  in
• 8:34
  our
• 8:34
  bodies.
• 8:36
  And
• 8:36
  so
• 8:36
  if
• 8:36
  I
• 8:37
  see
• 8:39
  a
• 8:39
  client
• 8:39
  that
• 8:40
  is
• 8:40
  expressing
• 8:41
  some
• 8:42
  emotion
• 8:42
  or
• 8:42
  something,
• 8:43
  I
• 8:43
  will
• 8:43
  ask
• 8:44
  them
• 8:44
  how
• 8:44
  they're
• 8:44
  feeling
• 8:45
  and
• 8:45
  if
• 8:45
  they
• 8:46
  come
• 8:46
  back
• 8:46
  with
• 8:46
  a
• 8:46
  word,
• 8:47
  I'll
• 8:47
  ask
• 8:48
  them
• 8:48
  again,
• 8:49
  what
• 8:49
  are
• 8:49
  you
• 8:50
  feeling?
• 8:50
  Where
• 8:51
  is
• 8:51
  this
• 8:52
  thing
• 8:53
  coming
• 8:53
  from
• 8:54
  in
• 8:54
  your
• 8:54
  body
• 8:55
  and
• 8:55
  what
• 8:55
  does
• 8:55
  it
• 8:55
  feel
• 8:56
  like?
• 8:57
  And
• 8:57
  that
• 8:57
  is
• 8:58
  it.
• 8:58
  That
• 8:58
  takes
• 8:59
  a
• 8:59
  minute.
• 8:59
  If,
• 8:59
  if
• 8:59
  you've
• 9:00
  not
• 9:00
  been
• 9:01
  processing
• 9:02
  your
• 9:02
  emotions
• 9:02
  and
• 9:03
  your,
• 9:03
  you
• 9:03
  know,
• 9:03
  all
• 9:04
  of
• 9:04
  the
• 9:04
  things
• 9:04
  that,
• 9:06
  that
• 9:06
  have
• 9:06
  happened
• 9:07
  to
• 9:07
  you
• 9:08
  on
• 9:08
  that
• 9:09
  level,
• 9:10
  it's
• 9:10
  going
• 9:10
  to
• 9:10
  Take
• 9:10
  a
• 9:11
  minute.
• 9:11
  And
• 9:11
  it
• 9:11
  could
• 9:12
  also
• 9:12
  just
• 9:13
  open
• 9:13
  a
• 9:14
  floodgate,
• 9:14
  literally
• 9:15
  and
• 9:15
  figuratively.
• 9:16
  And
• 9:17
  the
• 9:17
  horse,
• 9:18
  if
• 9:18
  they
• 9:19
  don't
• 9:19
  care
• 9:19
  what
• 9:20
  you're
• 9:20
  going
• 9:20
  through,
• 9:20
  they
• 9:21
  don't
• 9:21
  care
• 9:21
  if
• 9:21
  you're
• 9:21
  scared,
• 9:22
  they
• 9:22
  don't
• 9:22
  care
• 9:22
  if
• 9:22
  you're
• 9:22
  mad,
• 9:23
  they
• 9:23
  don't
• 9:23
  care
• 9:23
  if
• 9:23
  you're
• 9:23
  whatever.
• 9:24
  What
• 9:24
  they
• 9:24
  care
• 9:24
  about
• 9:25
  is
• 9:25
  if
• 9:25
  you're
• 9:25
  being
• 9:26
  honest
• 9:26
  and
• 9:27
  if
• 9:27
  you're
• 9:27
  being
• 9:27
  congruent
• 9:29
  and
• 9:30
  if
• 9:30
  you're
• 9:30
  putting
• 9:31
  up
• 9:31
  one
• 9:32
  facade
• 9:33
  I
• 9:33
  like,
• 9:33
  you
• 9:33
  know,
• 9:34
  because
• 9:34
  that's
• 9:34
  basically
• 9:35
  what
• 9:35
  it
• 9:35
  is.
• 9:35
  If
• 9:35
  you're
• 9:35
  putting
• 9:36
  up
• 9:36
  this
• 9:36
  facade
• 9:36
  or
• 9:37
  this
• 9:37
  wall,
• 9:39
  the
• 9:39
  horse
• 9:39
  may
• 9:40
  keep
• 9:41
  its
• 9:41
  distance
• 9:41
  because
• 9:42
  it
• 9:42
  doesn't
• 9:42
  feel
• 9:42
  safe.
• 9:43
  It.
• 9:43
  It's
• 9:43
  sensing
• 9:44
  that
• 9:44
  there's
• 9:45
  incongruency
• 9:46
  in
• 9:46
  how
• 9:46
  you
• 9:47
  are
• 9:47
  presenting
• 9:48
  and
• 9:48
  what
• 9:48
  is
• 9:49
  really.
• 9:50
  So
• 9:51
  by,
• 9:52
  you
• 9:52
  know,
• 9:52
  observing
• 9:53
  where
• 9:53
  the
• 9:53
  horse
• 9:54
  is
• 9:54
  and
• 9:54
  how
• 9:54
  they're
• 9:54
  reacting
• 9:55
  with
• 9:55
  the
• 9:55
  human,
• 9:56
  I
• 9:57
  can
• 9:58
  say,
• 9:58
  okay,
• 9:58
  what
• 9:58
  are
• 9:59
  you
• 9:59
  feeling?
• 9:59
  What
• 9:59
  is
• 10:00
  this
• 10:00
  thing
• 10:00
  that,
• 10:00
  you
• 10:01
  know,
• 10:01
  what,
• 10:02
  where
• 10:02
  in
• 10:02
  your
• 10:02
  body
• 10:02
  do
• 10:03
  you
• 10:03
  feel
• 10:03
  this?
• 10:04
  And
• 10:04
  once
• 10:04
  they
• 10:05
  can
• 10:05
  sort
• 10:05
  of
• 10:05
  let
• 10:06
  go,
• 10:06
  relax,
• 10:07
  get
• 10:07
  grounded
• 10:08
  and
• 10:10
  let
• 10:11
  some
• 10:11
  of
• 10:11
  that
• 10:12
  guard
• 10:12
  fall
• 10:13
  away,
• 10:14
  the
• 10:14
  horse
• 10:15
  will
• 10:15
  be
• 10:15
  more
• 10:15
  willing
• 10:15
  to
• 10:15
  interact
• 10:16
  and
• 10:16
  then
• 10:16
  they
• 10:17
  can,
• 10:17
  you
• 10:17
  know,
• 10:17
  the
• 10:18
  horse
• 10:18
  may
• 10:18
  come
• 10:18
  over
• 10:18
  and
• 10:18
  just
• 10:19
  stand
• 10:19
  by
• 10:19
  them.
• 10:20
  The
• 10:20
  horse
• 10:20
  may,
• 10:21
  you
• 10:21
  know,
• 10:21
  come
• 10:22
  up
• 10:22
  and,
• 10:22
  you
• 10:22
  know,
• 10:22
  put
• 10:23
  their
• 10:23
  head
• 10:23
  on
• 10:23
  their
• 10:23
  shoulder.
• 10:24
  It.
• 10:24
  It
• 10:25
  just
• 10:25
  depends.
• 10:26
  So
• 10:26
  it's
• 10:26
  a
• 10:26
  big,
• 10:26
  huge
• 10:27
  form
• 10:27
  of
• 10:27
  muscle
• 10:28
  testing
• 10:28
  a
• 10:29
  little
• 10:29
  bit.
• 10:29
  Yeah,
• 10:30
  you're
• 10:30
  using
• 10:31
  the
• 10:31
  horse's
• 10:31
  muscles,
• 10:32
  so
• 10:32
  I
• 10:32
  mean,
• 10:33
  that
• 10:33
  makes
• 10:33
  sense.
• 10:33
  So
• 10:33
  I
• 10:33
  guess
• 10:34
  because
• 10:34
  like
• 10:34
  you
• 10:34
  said,
• 10:34
  they
• 10:35
  are
• 10:35
  prey,
• 10:35
  so
• 10:36
  they
• 10:36
  are
• 10:36
  in
• 10:37
  survive,
• 10:37
  not
• 10:37
  in
• 10:38
  survival
• 10:38
  mode.
• 10:38
  But
• 10:38
  they
• 10:38
  are
• 10:39
  geared
• 10:39
  to
• 10:39
  be
• 10:39
  intuitive.
• 10:40
  I
• 10:40
  mean,
• 10:40
  that's
• 10:40
  how
• 10:41
  they're
• 10:41
  wired.
• 10:41
  That's
• 10:41
  how
• 10:42
  they're
• 10:42
  born.
• 10:43
  Completely
• 10:43
  intuitive.
• 10:44
  And
• 10:44
  that's
• 10:44
  interesting.
• 10:45
  So.
• 10:47
  So
• 10:47
  if
• 10:47
  you.
• 10:48
  Information
• 10:48
  very
• 10:49
  quickly,
• 10:49
  you
• 10:49
  know,
• 10:49
  they
• 10:50
  take
• 10:50
  it
• 10:50
  in,
• 10:50
  they
• 10:50
  let
• 10:50
  it
• 10:51
  go.
• 10:51
  They
• 10:51
  take
• 10:51
  it
• 10:51
  in,
• 10:51
  they
• 10:51
  let
• 10:52
  it
• 10:52
  go.
• 10:52
  As
• 10:52
  long
• 10:52
  as
• 10:52
  that,
• 10:53
  you
• 10:53
  know,
• 10:53
  they're
• 10:53
  like,
• 10:53
  safe,
• 10:54
  not
• 10:54
  safe,
• 10:54
  safe,
• 10:54
  not
• 10:54
  safe.
• 10:55
  You
• 10:55
  know,
• 10:55
  threat,
• 10:55
  not
• 10:56
  threat.
• 10:57
  Interesting.
• 10:57
  So
• 10:58
  if
• 10:58
  somebody
• 10:58
  comes
• 10:58
  up
• 10:58
  to
• 10:59
  them
• 10:59
  and
• 10:59
  they
• 10:59
  go
• 10:59
  to
• 10:59
  like,
• 11:00
  hug
• 11:00
  them
• 11:00
  and
• 11:00
  they've
• 11:01
  got
• 11:01
  a
• 11:01
  big
• 11:01
  old
• 11:01
  smile
• 11:02
  and
• 11:02
  they're
• 11:02
  like,
• 11:03
  angry
• 11:03
  inside,
• 11:04
  that
• 11:04
  horse
• 11:04
  might.
• 11:05
  Could
• 11:05
  back
• 11:05
  up
• 11:05
  or
• 11:06
  stiffen
• 11:07
  or.
• 11:08
  Yeah,
• 11:08
  so
• 11:09
  those
• 11:09
  are
• 11:09
  kind
• 11:09
  of
• 11:09
  the
• 11:10
  signals
• 11:10
  you're
• 11:10
  looking
• 11:11
  for.
• 11:12
  Yeah.
• 11:12
  And
• 11:12
  I
• 11:13
  also
• 11:13
  teach
• 11:13
  people
• 11:13
  how
• 11:13
  to,
• 11:14
  like,
• 11:14
  approach
• 11:14
  the
• 11:14
  horse
• 11:15
  in
• 11:15
  a
• 11:15
  way
• 11:15
  that.
• 11:15
  Because
• 11:16
  you're.
• 11:17
  It's
• 11:17
  how
• 11:17
  you're
• 11:17
  showing
• 11:18
  up
• 11:18
  in
• 11:18
  relationship.
• 11:19
  Because
• 11:19
  this
• 11:20
  is
• 11:20
  what
• 11:20
  it
• 11:20
  is.
• 11:20
  It's
• 11:20
  a
• 11:21
  relationship
• 11:21
  with
• 11:22
  this
• 11:22
  animal,
• 11:23
  with
• 11:23
  this
• 11:23
  creature,
• 11:24
  with
• 11:24
  this
• 11:24
  being.
• 11:25
  And
• 11:25
  how
• 11:25
  you
• 11:25
  show
• 11:26
  up
• 11:26
  with
• 11:26
  the
• 11:26
  horse
• 11:26
  is
• 11:27
  probably
• 11:27
  going
• 11:27
  to
• 11:27
  be
• 11:28
  how
• 11:28
  you
• 11:28
  show
• 11:28
  up
• 11:28
  in
• 11:28
  relationship
• 11:30
  anywhere.
• 11:31
  Interesting.
• 11:33
  Very
• 11:33
  interesting.
• 11:34
  I
• 11:34
  always
• 11:34
  Wondered
• 11:35
  like
• 11:35
  that's.
• 11:35
  Like
• 11:35
  I
• 11:35
  said,
• 11:36
  I
• 11:36
  know
• 11:36
  why,
• 11:36
  but
• 11:37
  now
• 11:37
  that,
• 11:37
  that
• 11:38
  clears
• 11:38
  up
• 11:38
  so.
• 11:39
  So
• 11:39
  many
• 11:39
  hundreds
• 11:39
  of
• 11:39
  questions
• 11:40
  I've
• 11:40
  had
• 11:40
  throughout
• 11:40
  the
• 11:40
  years
• 11:41
  about
• 11:41
  why
• 11:41
  people
• 11:42
  happy
• 11:42
  to
• 11:42
  do
• 11:42
  that,
• 11:43
  you
• 11:43
  know.
• 11:44
  Well,
• 11:44
  thank
• 11:44
  you
• 11:44
  for
• 11:45
  that.
• 11:45
  So,
• 11:46
  so
• 11:47
  what,
• 11:47
  what
• 11:47
  does
• 11:48
  a,
• 11:48
  a
• 11:48
  session
• 11:48
  look
• 11:49
  like
• 11:49
  with
• 11:49
  you?
• 11:49
  What
• 11:49
  is
• 11:50
  that?
• 11:50
  How
• 11:50
  do
• 11:50
  you
• 11:51
  walk
• 11:51
  through?
• 11:51
  Like,
• 11:51
  just
• 11:52
  the
• 11:52
  basics,
• 11:52
  obviously,
• 11:53
  not
• 11:53
  the
• 11:53
  whole
• 11:53
  thing.
• 11:54
  Yeah,
• 11:54
  I
• 11:54
  want,
• 11:54
  on
• 11:54
  a
• 11:54
  one
• 11:55
  on
• 11:55
  one
• 11:55
  session
• 11:55
  would
• 11:56
  be
• 11:56
  the
• 11:57
  client,
• 11:57
  myself
• 11:58
  and
• 11:58
  the
• 11:58
  horse.
• 11:59
  And
• 11:59
  the
• 12:00
  client
• 12:00
  and
• 12:00
  the
• 12:00
  horse
• 12:01
  are
• 12:01
  in
• 12:01
  a
• 12:03
  round
• 12:03
  pen
• 12:04
  usually
• 12:04
  if,
• 12:05
  if
• 12:05
  one
• 12:05
  is
• 12:05
  available,
• 12:06
  or
• 12:06
  a
• 12:07
  smaller
• 12:07
  enclosed
• 12:08
  arena
• 12:08
  so
• 12:09
  that
• 12:09
  the
• 12:09
  horse
• 12:09
  is.
• 12:10
  The
• 12:10
  horse
• 12:11
  doesn't
• 12:11
  have
• 12:11
  a
• 12:11
  bridle
• 12:11
  or
• 12:12
  a
• 12:12
  saddle
• 12:12
  or
• 12:12
  anything.
• 12:12
  There's
• 12:13
  no
• 12:13
  riding
• 12:13
  involved.
• 12:14
  The
• 12:14
  horse
• 12:15
  is
• 12:15
  at
• 12:15
  liberty,
• 12:16
  free
• 12:16
  to
• 12:16
  move
• 12:16
  about
• 12:17
  at,
• 12:17
  at
• 12:18
  will.
• 12:19
  And
• 12:19
  then,
• 12:19
  you
• 12:20
  know,
• 12:20
  I
• 12:20
  obviously
• 12:20
  go
• 12:21
  through
• 12:21
  a
• 12:21
  safety
• 12:21
  demo
• 12:21
  because
• 12:22
  I
• 12:22
  want
• 12:22
  people
• 12:22
  to
• 12:22
  feel
• 12:23
  safe
• 12:23
  and
• 12:25
  show
• 12:25
  them
• 12:25
  a
• 12:25
  couple
• 12:26
  of
• 12:26
  ways
• 12:26
  that
• 12:26
  they
• 12:27
  can
• 12:27
  interact
• 12:28
  with
• 12:28
  the
• 12:28
  horse.
• 12:28
  If
• 12:29
  they
• 12:29
  want
• 12:29
  to
• 12:30
  try
• 12:30
  and
• 12:30
  move
• 12:30
  the
• 12:31
  horse,
• 12:32
  it
• 12:33
  just
• 12:33
  gives
• 12:33
  them
• 12:33
  something
• 12:34
  else
• 12:34
  to
• 12:35
  think
• 12:35
  about.
• 12:35
  So
• 12:36
  it's
• 12:36
  not
• 12:36
  about
• 12:37
  the
• 12:37
  task,
• 12:38
  it's
• 12:38
  not
• 12:39
  about
• 12:39
  the
• 12:39
  activity.
• 12:40
  It
• 12:41
  just
• 12:41
  gives
• 12:41
  them
• 12:41
  some
• 12:42
  ways
• 12:42
  to
• 12:42
  interact.
• 12:43
  And
• 12:43
  then
• 12:44
  as
• 12:44
  they're
• 12:45
  interacting
• 12:45
  with
• 12:45
  the
• 12:45
  horse,
• 12:47
  I'm
• 12:47
  watching
• 12:48
  the
• 12:48
  horse's
• 12:49
  behavior.
• 12:50
  I'm
• 12:50
  watching
• 12:50
  the
• 12:50
  person's
• 12:51
  behavior.
• 12:52
  What.
• 12:52
  Maybe
• 12:52
  they're,
• 12:53
  what
• 12:53
  they're
• 12:53
  saying
• 12:53
  because,
• 12:54
  you
• 12:54
  know,
• 12:54
  let's
• 12:55
  face
• 12:55
  it,
• 12:55
  we
• 12:55
  like
• 12:55
  to
• 12:55
  talk
• 12:56
  because
• 12:56
  we
• 12:56
  have
• 12:56
  mouths
• 12:56
  and.
• 12:57
  Right,
• 12:57
  right.
• 12:59
  They
• 12:59
  may
• 12:59
  be
• 12:59
  talking
• 12:59
  a
• 13:00
  blue
• 13:00
  streak
• 13:00
  to
• 13:00
  the
• 13:00
  horse.
• 13:00
  The
• 13:00
  horse
• 13:01
  is
• 13:01
  like,
• 13:01
  whatever.
• 13:04
  And
• 13:04
  then
• 13:04
  that
• 13:04
  gives
• 13:04
  me
• 13:04
  the
• 13:04
  opportunity
• 13:05
  to,
• 13:05
  you
• 13:06
  know,
• 13:06
  that
• 13:06
  someone
• 13:07
  may
• 13:07
  have
• 13:07
  set
• 13:07
  an
• 13:07
  intention
• 13:08
  for
• 13:08
  the,
• 13:09
  for,
• 13:10
  for
• 13:10
  the
• 13:10
  session.
• 13:11
  Or
• 13:11
  sometimes
• 13:11
  I
• 13:12
  like
• 13:12
  it
• 13:12
  to
• 13:12
  just
• 13:12
  be
• 13:12
  organic
• 13:13
  and
• 13:13
  see
• 13:14
  maybe,
• 13:14
  you
• 13:14
  know,
• 13:14
  just
• 13:14
  a
• 13:15
  broad
• 13:16
  topic
• 13:16
  that
• 13:16
  they
• 13:16
  want
• 13:17
  to
• 13:17
  explore.
• 13:18
  And
• 13:18
  then
• 13:18
  I
• 13:18
  let
• 13:19
  them
• 13:19
  explore
• 13:19
  and
• 13:19
  I
• 13:19
  let
• 13:20
  them
• 13:20
  interact
• 13:20
  with
• 13:20
  the
• 13:20
  horse
• 13:21
  and
• 13:21
  see
• 13:21
  what
• 13:21
  comes
• 13:22
  up
• 13:22
  and
• 13:22
  see
• 13:22
  how
• 13:23
  the
• 13:23
  horse
• 13:23
  is
• 13:23
  reacting
• 13:25
  to
• 13:25
  their
• 13:26
  interaction
• 13:27
  and
• 13:27
  how
• 13:27
  they're
• 13:27
  showing
• 13:28
  up
• 13:28
  and
• 13:28
  how
• 13:28
  the
• 13:29
  horse
• 13:29
  is
• 13:29
  showing
• 13:29
  up.
• 13:30
  And
• 13:30
  I'm
• 13:31
  outside
• 13:31
  of
• 13:31
  the
• 13:31
  conversation,
• 13:32
  so
• 13:32
  I'm
• 13:33
  just
• 13:33
  observing.
• 13:34
  And
• 13:35
  I
• 13:36
  may
• 13:36
  at
• 13:36
  some
• 13:36
  point
• 13:37
  interact
• 13:38
  and
• 13:38
  say,
• 13:39
  you
• 13:39
  know,
• 13:39
  what,
• 13:40
  what's
• 13:40
  coming
• 13:40
  up
• 13:40
  for
• 13:41
  you?
• 13:41
  Because
• 13:41
  I'm
• 13:42
  watching
• 13:42
  the
• 13:42
  horse
• 13:42
  and
• 13:42
  I
• 13:42
  want
• 13:43
  to
• 13:43
  know
• 13:44
  if
• 13:44
  the
• 13:45
  person
• 13:45
  understands
• 13:46
  or
• 13:47
  can
• 13:47
  sense
• 13:47
  and
• 13:48
  especially
• 13:48
  can
• 13:49
  feel
• 13:51
  what
• 13:51
  is
• 13:51
  happening
• 13:52
  to
• 13:52
  them
• 13:52
  in
• 13:52
  a
• 13:53
  specific
• 13:53
  moment.
• 13:54
  Like
• 13:54
  if
• 13:54
  the
• 13:54
  horse
• 13:55
  all
• 13:55
  of
• 13:55
  a
• 13:55
  sudden
• 13:56
  breaks
• 13:57
  contact
• 13:57
  and
• 13:57
  walks
• 13:58
  away,
• 13:58
  I
• 13:58
  may
• 13:59
  say,
• 13:59
  what
• 13:59
  just
• 13:59
  happened
• 14:00
  there?
• 14:01
  Right.
• 14:01
  You
• 14:01
  know,
• 14:02
  what,
• 14:02
  just
• 14:02
  how,
• 14:03
  how
• 14:03
  did
• 14:03
  that
• 14:03
  relationship
• 14:04
  break
• 14:04
  away?
• 14:05
  You
• 14:06
  know,
• 14:06
  you
• 14:06
  didn't
• 14:06
  send
• 14:07
  the
• 14:07
  horse
• 14:07
  away.
• 14:07
  The
• 14:08
  horse
• 14:08
  just
• 14:08
  decided
• 14:09
  to
• 14:09
  disconnect.
• 14:10
  And
• 14:11
  they're
• 14:11
  like,
• 14:11
  oh,
• 14:11
  well,
• 14:12
  I,
• 14:12
  you
• 14:12
  know,
• 14:12
  whatever.
• 14:13
  They
• 14:13
  may
• 14:13
  come
• 14:13
  up
• 14:14
  with
• 14:14
  like,
• 14:14
  I
• 14:15
  started
• 14:15
  thinking
• 14:15
  about
• 14:16
  something
• 14:16
  or
• 14:16
  I
• 14:17
  started
• 14:17
  feeling
• 14:17
  a
• 14:18
  certain
• 14:18
  way
• 14:18
  or,
• 14:18
  or,
• 14:19
  you
• 14:19
  know,
• 14:19
  so
• 14:20
  it's,
• 14:21
  it's
• 14:21
  very
• 14:21
  simple,
• 14:22
  it's
• 14:22
  very
• 14:22
  organic
• 14:24
  and
• 14:24
  it's
• 14:24
  also
• 14:25
  very
• 14:25
  powerful.
• 14:27
  Yeah.
• 14:27
  So
• 14:27
  how
• 14:28
  would
• 14:28
  you,
• 14:28
  how,
• 14:29
  like,
• 14:29
  how
• 14:30
  does
• 14:30
  it
• 14:30
  work
• 14:30
  for
• 14:30
  like
• 14:31
  stress
• 14:31
  relief?
• 14:33
  Do
• 14:33
  people
• 14:33
  come.
• 14:34
  Is
• 14:35
  it
• 14:35
  just
• 14:35
  because
• 14:35
  a
• 14:35
  horse
• 14:36
  is
• 14:36
  calming
• 14:36
  or
• 14:36
  is
• 14:36
  it
• 14:37
  because
• 14:37
  there's
• 14:37
  like
• 14:38
  this
• 14:38
  reciprocating
• 14:39
  back
• 14:39
  and
• 14:40
  forth
• 14:40
  energy?
• 14:42
  Yes.
• 14:43
  And
• 14:44
  all
• 14:44
  of
• 14:44
  the
• 14:44
  above.
• 14:45
  I
• 14:45
  know
• 14:45
  I'm
• 14:45
  asking
• 14:46
  a
• 14:46
  lot
• 14:46
  of
• 14:46
  questions
• 14:46
  in
• 14:46
  one
• 14:47
  thing
• 14:47
  because
• 14:47
  I'm,
• 14:48
  I'm
• 14:48
  learning
• 14:48
  a
• 14:48
  lot.
• 14:48
  This
• 14:49
  is
• 14:49
  really
• 14:49
  intriguing
• 14:50
  me.
• 14:50
  I
• 14:50
  love
• 14:50
  that.
• 14:51
  So
• 14:51
  for
• 14:51
  stress
• 14:52
  relief,
• 14:52
  I
• 14:53
  mean,
• 14:53
  where
• 14:53
  does
• 14:54
  stress
• 14:54
  come
• 14:54
  from?
• 14:54
  Where
• 14:55
  does
• 14:55
  it
• 14:55
  originate?
• 14:55
  Is
• 14:56
  it,
• 14:56
  you
• 14:56
  know,
• 14:56
  where
• 14:56
  in
• 14:57
  our
• 14:57
  body
• 14:57
  is
• 14:57
  it
• 14:58
  showing
• 14:58
  up?
• 14:58
  And
• 14:59
  the
• 14:59
  horses
• 14:59
  can
• 14:59
  be
• 15:00
  really
• 15:00
  helpful
• 15:00
  with
• 15:00
  that.
• 15:03
  Releasing,
• 15:04
  allowing
• 15:04
  people
• 15:05
  to
• 15:05
  build
• 15:05
  an
• 15:05
  awareness
• 15:06
  of
• 15:06
  what's
• 15:07
  going
• 15:07
  on
• 15:07
  inside
• 15:08
  them
• 15:09
  rather
• 15:09
  than
• 15:09
  just
• 15:10
  spiraling
• 15:11
  off
• 15:11
  in
• 15:11
  some,
• 15:12
  you
• 15:12
  know,
• 15:12
  story
• 15:13
  thought,
• 15:14
  you
• 15:15
  know,
• 15:15
  spin
• 15:15
  out.
• 15:16
  Oh,
• 15:17
  you
• 15:17
  know,
• 15:17
  once
• 15:17
  you
• 15:17
  get,
• 15:18
  you
• 15:18
  know,
• 15:18
  because
• 15:18
  it's,
• 15:18
  it's
• 15:19
  like
• 15:19
  a
• 15:19
  domino
• 15:19
  effect,
• 15:20
  right.
• 15:20
  Once
• 15:20
  you
• 15:20
  start
• 15:20
  thinking
• 15:21
  about
• 15:21
  something,
• 15:21
  then
• 15:22
  you
• 15:22
  start
• 15:22
  thinking
• 15:22
  about
• 15:23
  that
• 15:23
  and
• 15:23
  that
• 15:23
  and
• 15:23
  that
• 15:23
  and
• 15:24
  that
• 15:24
  and
• 15:24
  that.
• 15:24
  And
• 15:24
  then
• 15:24
  before
• 15:25
  you
• 15:25
  know
• 15:25
  it,
• 15:25
  you're
• 15:26
  like
• 15:26
  off
• 15:27
  to
• 15:27
  the
• 15:27
  races
• 15:28
  with
• 15:28
  some
• 15:29
  crazy
• 15:29
  thought
• 15:29
  that
• 15:30
  you
• 15:30
  had.
• 15:31
  Right.
• 15:32
  So
• 15:32
  the
• 15:32
  horses
• 15:32
  can
• 15:33
  help
• 15:33
  to
• 15:33
  break
• 15:33
  that
• 15:33
  thought
• 15:34
  pattern
• 15:34
  and
• 15:34
  get
• 15:34
  you
• 15:35
  back
• 15:35
  in
• 15:35
  your
• 15:35
  body
• 15:36
  and
• 15:36
  start
• 15:36
  thinking
• 15:36
  about,
• 15:37
  how
• 15:37
  do
• 15:37
  I
• 15:38
  feel?
• 15:39
  You
• 15:39
  know,
• 15:39
  let
• 15:39
  me
• 15:40
  take
• 15:40
  a
• 15:40
  beat
• 15:41
  and
• 15:41
  think
• 15:41
  about
• 15:42
  how
• 15:42
  I
• 15:42
  feel
• 15:42
  before
• 15:43
  I
• 15:43
  react,
• 15:44
  before
• 15:44
  I
• 15:45
  spin
• 15:45
  out,
• 15:46
  before
• 15:46
  I
• 15:46
  have
• 15:47
  an
• 15:47
  anxiety
• 15:47
  attack,
• 15:48
  you
• 15:48
  know,
• 15:48
  before
• 15:48
  I
• 15:48
  get
• 15:49
  all
• 15:49
  balled
• 15:50
  up
• 15:50
  and
• 15:50
  stressed
• 15:50
  out.
• 15:51
  You
• 15:51
  know,
• 15:51
  because
• 15:53
  sometimes
• 15:54
  you
• 15:54
  can
• 15:54
  just
• 15:54
  be
• 15:55
  so
• 15:55
  wound
• 15:56
  so
• 15:56
  tightly
• 15:56
  that
• 15:57
  if
• 15:57
  you
• 15:57
  knock
• 15:58
  your
• 15:58
  coffee
• 15:58
  over
• 15:58
  in
• 15:59
  the
• 15:59
  morning,
• 15:59
  well,
• 16:00
  that's
• 16:00
  it.
• 16:00
  My
• 16:01
  day
• 16:01
  is
• 16:01
  ruined.
• 16:01
  You
• 16:01
  know,
• 16:02
  my,
• 16:02
  the
• 16:02
  rest
• 16:02
  of
• 16:02
  the
• 16:02
  day
• 16:03
  is
• 16:03
  just
• 16:03
  going
• 16:03
  to
• 16:03
  be
• 16:03
  crap.
• 16:04
  And,
• 16:04
  you
• 16:04
  know,
• 16:04
  all
• 16:05
  of
• 16:05
  that,
• 16:06
  this
• 16:07
  kind
• 16:07
  of,
• 16:07
  you
• 16:07
  know,
• 16:08
  like,
• 16:08
  oh,
• 16:08
  I
• 16:09
  spilled
• 16:09
  my
• 16:09
  coffee,
• 16:09
  I
• 16:10
  guess
• 16:10
  I
• 16:10
  gotta
• 16:10
  make
• 16:10
  another
• 16:10
  cup.
• 16:11
  Let
• 16:11
  me
• 16:11
  clean
• 16:11
  this
• 16:11
  up.
• 16:11
  And
• 16:12
  right,
• 16:13
  so
• 16:13
  it
• 16:13
  can
• 16:13
  calm
• 16:13
  your,
• 16:14
  help
• 16:14
  calm
• 16:14
  your
• 16:14
  nervous
• 16:15
  system
• 16:15
  and
• 16:15
  give
• 16:15
  you
• 16:15
  some
• 16:16
  tools
• 16:17
  to
• 16:18
  start
• 16:19
  to
• 16:19
  build
• 16:19
  that
• 16:19
  awareness.
• 16:20
  Like
• 16:20
  the
• 16:21
  horse,
• 16:21
  right?
• 16:21
  I
• 16:21
  would
• 16:22
  say
• 16:22
  be
• 16:22
  the
• 16:22
  horse.
• 16:23
  When,
• 16:23
  when
• 16:24
  something
• 16:25
  causes
• 16:25
  the
• 16:25
  horse
• 16:26
  to
• 16:26
  startle
• 16:26
  out
• 16:26
  in
• 16:27
  the
• 16:27
  pasture,
• 16:27
  they're
• 16:28
  going
• 16:28
  to
• 16:28
  look
• 16:28
  around,
• 16:28
  they're
• 16:28
  going
• 16:29
  to
• 16:29
  listen,
• 16:29
  they're
• 16:29
  going
• 16:29
  to,
• 16:30
  you
• 16:30
  know,
• 16:30
  they're
• 16:30
  going
• 16:30
  to
• 16:30
  take
• 16:31
  a
• 16:31
  moment
• 16:31
  to
• 16:31
  be
• 16:31
  like,
• 16:31
  okay,
• 16:32
  what's
• 16:32
  going
• 16:32
  on?
• 16:33
  And
• 16:33
  if
• 16:33
  their
• 16:33
  heart
• 16:34
  starts
• 16:34
  racing,
• 16:34
  if,
• 16:35
  you
• 16:35
  know,
• 16:35
  whatever,
• 16:35
  what
• 16:36
  does
• 16:36
  that
• 16:36
  feel
• 16:36
  like?
• 16:37
  How
• 16:37
  can
• 16:38
  I,
• 16:38
  how
• 16:38
  can
• 16:38
  I
• 16:39
  take
• 16:39
  that
• 16:39
  physical
• 16:40
  information
• 16:41
  and
• 16:41
  process
• 16:42
  it
• 16:42
  in
• 16:42
  a
• 16:42
  way
• 16:43
  that
• 16:44
  will
• 16:44
  inform
• 16:45
  my
• 16:45
  next
• 16:45
  move?
• 16:46
  That
• 16:46
  Will
• 16:46
  inform
• 16:47
  my
• 16:47
  reaction.
• 16:48
  So
• 16:49
  it.
• 16:50
  It
• 16:50
  really
• 16:50
  does.
• 16:51
  If
• 16:51
  you're
• 16:52
  interesting
• 16:52
  thinking,
• 16:53
  if
• 16:53
  you're
• 16:54
  acting,
• 16:55
  you
• 16:55
  know,
• 16:55
  processing
• 16:56
  things
• 16:57
  physically,
• 16:58
  it
• 16:59
  gives
• 16:59
  you
• 16:59
  that
• 16:59
  moment
• 16:59
  to,
• 17:00
  you
• 17:00
  know,
• 17:00
  because
• 17:00
  if
• 17:01
  somebody
• 17:01
  makes
• 17:01
  you
• 17:01
  mad,
• 17:02
  if
• 17:02
  somebody,
• 17:03
  you
• 17:03
  know,
• 17:03
  upsets
• 17:04
  you,
• 17:05
  you
• 17:05
  feel
• 17:05
  it.
• 17:06
  Right.
• 17:07
  And
• 17:07
  most
• 17:07
  of
• 17:07
  us
• 17:08
  don't
• 17:08
  take
• 17:08
  the
• 17:09
  time
• 17:09
  to.
• 17:10
  They
• 17:10
  just
• 17:10
  react.
• 17:11
  You
• 17:11
  just
• 17:11
  react.
• 17:11
  You're
• 17:12
  like,
• 17:12
  you
• 17:12
  hurt
• 17:12
  my
• 17:12
  feelings
• 17:13
  or,
• 17:13
  you
• 17:13
  know,
• 17:13
  whatever,
• 17:14
  and
• 17:14
  Right.
• 17:15
  Lunge
• 17:16
  at
• 17:16
  them.
• 17:18
  This
• 17:19
  gives
• 17:19
  us
• 17:19
  a
• 17:19
  moment
• 17:20
  to,
• 17:21
  you
• 17:21
  know,
• 17:21
  build
• 17:21
  those
• 17:22
  awareness
• 17:23
  skills
• 17:23
  and
• 17:24
  start
• 17:24
  to
• 17:25
  feel
• 17:26
  before
• 17:26
  we
• 17:27
  react.
• 17:28
  Right.
• 17:29
  And
• 17:29
  I
• 17:30
  can
• 17:30
  see,
• 17:30
  too,
• 17:30
  it
• 17:31
  kind
• 17:31
  of
• 17:31
  works
• 17:31
  like
• 17:32
  the.
• 17:32
  The
• 17:32
  other
• 17:33
  way
• 17:33
  around
• 17:33
  too,
• 17:33
  because
• 17:34
  I'm
• 17:34
  with.
• 17:34
  If
• 17:34
  I'm
• 17:34
  with
• 17:35
  a
• 17:35
  horse
• 17:35
  and
• 17:35
  I'm
• 17:35
  hugging
• 17:36
  his
• 17:36
  head
• 17:36
  and
• 17:37
  I'm
• 17:37
  talking
• 17:38
  to
• 17:38
  him,
• 17:38
  or
• 17:38
  I'm
• 17:38
  just
• 17:39
  thinking,
• 17:39
  whatever.
• 17:39
  And
• 17:40
  then
• 17:40
  all
• 17:40
  of
• 17:40
  a
• 17:40
  sudden
• 17:40
  he
• 17:41
  tenses.
• 17:42
  Then
• 17:42
  you.
• 17:42
  Like,
• 17:42
  you're
• 17:43
  right.
• 17:43
  Like,
• 17:43
  it's
• 17:43
  like
• 17:43
  I
• 17:44
  have
• 17:44
  to
• 17:44
  think
• 17:44
  about,
• 17:44
  why
• 17:44
  did
• 17:45
  he
• 17:45
  do
• 17:45
  that?
• 17:45
  Like,
• 17:46
  what?
• 17:46
  So
• 17:47
  that
• 17:47
  is
• 17:47
  part.
• 17:47
  I
• 17:47
  guess
• 17:48
  that's.
• 17:48
  Is
• 17:48
  that
• 17:49
  the
• 17:49
  basic
• 17:49
  gist
• 17:50
  of
• 17:50
  part
• 17:50
  of
• 17:50
  how
• 17:51
  it
• 17:51
  works
• 17:51
  too?
• 17:52
  Because
• 17:52
  I'm
• 17:52
  picturing
• 17:53
  me
• 17:53
  being
• 17:53
  with
• 17:53
  the
• 17:53
  horse.
• 17:54
  Like,
• 17:54
  if
• 17:54
  the
• 17:54
  horse
• 17:54
  all
• 17:54
  of
• 17:54
  a
• 17:54
  sudden
• 17:55
  backs
• 17:55
  away,
• 17:55
  I'll
• 17:55
  be
• 17:55
  like,
• 17:55
  okay,
• 17:56
  what's
• 17:56
  going
• 17:56
  on
• 17:56
  with
• 17:56
  me
• 17:57
  here
• 17:57
  that
• 17:57
  I
• 17:57
  have
• 17:57
  to.
• 17:58
  That
• 17:58
  I'm
• 17:58
  scaring
• 17:58
  this
• 17:59
  horse?
• 17:59
  Right.
• 18:00
  Like
• 18:00
  what?
• 18:00
  You
• 18:00
  know
• 18:01
  what?
• 18:01
  Because
• 18:01
  now
• 18:02
  by
• 18:02
  this
• 18:02
  point
• 18:03
  inside
• 18:04
  me.
• 18:04
  Right,
• 18:04
  right,
• 18:05
  right.
• 18:05
  And
• 18:05
  I'm
• 18:05
  sure.
• 18:06
  I'm
• 18:06
  sure
• 18:06
  you.
• 18:06
  Oh,
• 18:07
  sorry,
• 18:07
  go
• 18:07
  ahead.
• 18:08
  No,
• 18:08
  because
• 18:08
  you.
• 18:08
  You're
• 18:09
  right,
• 18:09
  May
• 18:09
  something
• 18:10
  physically
• 18:10
  changed
• 18:11
  inside
• 18:11
  you
• 18:12
  that,
• 18:12
  you
• 18:12
  know,
• 18:12
  you
• 18:12
  weren't
• 18:13
  aware
• 18:13
  of,
• 18:13
  because
• 18:14
  in
• 18:14
  that
• 18:14
  moment
• 18:15
  when
• 18:15
  you
• 18:15
  were
• 18:15
  close
• 18:16
  to
• 18:16
  the
• 18:16
  horse,
• 18:17
  it
• 18:17
  may
• 18:17
  have
• 18:18
  triggered
• 18:18
  something
• 18:18
  inside
• 18:19
  you
• 18:19
  that
• 18:19
  you're
• 18:20
  kind
• 18:20
  of
• 18:20
  unaware
• 18:21
  of.
• 18:21
  Right.
• 18:21
  But
• 18:21
  you're
• 18:22
  like,
• 18:22
  oh,
• 18:22
  oh,
• 18:23
  Now
• 18:23
  I
• 18:23
  feel
• 18:23
  like
• 18:23
  this
• 18:23
  kind
• 18:23
  of
• 18:24
  icky
• 18:24
  feeling
• 18:25
  in
• 18:25
  my
• 18:25
  gut
• 18:25
  or.
• 18:26
  Or.
• 18:26
  Or
• 18:27
  my
• 18:27
  heart's.
• 18:27
  You
• 18:28
  know,
• 18:28
  my
• 18:28
  chest
• 18:28
  feels
• 18:29
  pressure.
• 18:29
  Why
• 18:30
  am
• 18:30
  I
• 18:30
  feeling
• 18:30
  that?
• 18:30
  So
• 18:31
  it
• 18:31
  makes
• 18:31
  you
• 18:32
  curious,
• 18:33
  like,
• 18:33
  if
• 18:33
  the
• 18:33
  horse
• 18:34
  is
• 18:34
  gonna
• 18:35
  move
• 18:35
  away
• 18:35
  from
• 18:35
  you,
• 18:36
  it
• 18:36
  must
• 18:36
  have
• 18:37
  been
• 18:37
  pretty
• 18:37
  intense
• 18:37
  because
• 18:38
  otherwise,
• 18:39
  you
• 18:39
  know,
• 18:39
  that
• 18:41
  they
• 18:41
  may
• 18:41
  feel
• 18:41
  it
• 18:41
  before
• 18:41
  you
• 18:42
  feel
• 18:42
  it.
• 18:43
  It's.
• 18:43
  Yeah,
• 18:43
  well,
• 18:44
  exactly.
• 18:44
  And,
• 18:45
  you
• 18:45
  know,
• 18:45
  you
• 18:45
  understand
• 18:46
  it.
• 18:46
  Yeah,
• 18:47
  Right.
• 18:47
  And
• 18:47
  I'm
• 18:47
  just
• 18:48
  kind
• 18:48
  of
• 18:48
  now,
• 18:48
  like,
• 18:49
  really
• 18:49
  getting
• 18:49
  into
• 18:49
  the
• 18:49
  whole
• 18:50
  energetic
• 18:50
  thing.
• 18:51
  So,
• 18:51
  I
• 18:51
  mean,
• 18:51
  it
• 18:52
  makes
• 18:52
  sense.
• 18:52
  Like,
• 18:52
  it's.
• 18:53
  It
• 18:53
  makes
• 18:54
  total
• 18:54
  sense.
• 18:54
  And
• 18:55
  being.
• 18:55
  It's
• 18:55
  like
• 18:55
  the
• 18:55
  horse
• 18:56
  is
• 18:56
  this
• 18:56
  huge
• 18:57
  300.
• 18:57
  I
• 18:58
  don't
• 18:58
  know
• 18:58
  how
• 18:58
  much
• 18:58
  a
• 18:58
  horse
• 18:58
  weighs,
• 18:59
  but
• 18:59
  three
• 18:59
  or
• 18:59
  400
• 19:00
  pound.
• 19:00
  Empath.
• 19:02
  Twelve
• 19:02
  hundred
• 19:02
  pounds.
• 19:03
  Twelve
• 19:03
  hundred
• 19:03
  pounds.
• 19:04
  Twelve
• 19:04
  hundred.
• 19:04
  Yeah.
• 19:06
  Yes.
• 19:07
  No.
• 19:07
  Okay.
• 19:07
  So
• 19:07
  I
• 19:07
  have
• 19:08
  no
• 19:08
  idea
• 19:08
  how
• 19:08
  much.
• 19:08
  I
• 19:09
  guess
• 19:09
  that
• 19:09
  makes
• 19:09
  sense,
• 19:09
  but
• 19:10
  yeah,
• 19:10
  so
• 19:11
  that
• 19:11
  oh
• 19:11
  my
• 19:11
  gosh,
• 19:12
  that
• 19:12
  makes
• 19:12
  so
• 19:12
  much
• 19:12
  sense.
• 19:13
  So
• 19:13
  you
• 19:14
  work
• 19:14
  with
• 19:14
  mostly
• 19:14
  people
• 19:15
  over
• 19:15
  40.
• 19:16
  Is,
• 19:17
  is
• 19:17
  it
• 19:17
  just
• 19:17
  because
• 19:17
  that's
• 19:18
  kind
• 19:18
  of
• 19:18
  when
• 19:18
  you
• 19:18
  had
• 19:18
  reinvented
• 19:19
  yourself
• 19:19
  or
• 19:20
  is
• 19:20
  it
• 19:20
  just
• 19:21
  of
• 19:21
  the
• 19:21
  age
• 19:21
  where
• 19:21
  you
• 19:21
  realize
• 19:22
  how
• 19:22
  many
• 19:22
  people
• 19:22
  are
• 19:23
  in
• 19:23
  this
• 19:23
  stuckness?
• 19:25
  Yeah,
• 19:25
  yeah,
• 19:26
  I've
• 19:26
  reinvented
• 19:27
  myself
• 19:27
  so
• 19:27
  many
• 19:27
  times
• 19:28
  over
• 19:28
  the
• 19:28
  years.
• 19:29
  But
• 19:30
  I
• 19:31
  think
• 19:31
  that
• 19:32
  women,
• 19:32
  especially
• 19:33
  in
• 19:34
  that
• 19:34
  midlife
• 19:34
  and
• 19:35
  that
• 19:35
  can
• 19:35
  be
• 19:35
  anywhere
• 19:35
  from
• 19:36
  35
• 19:36
  to
• 19:36
  70,
• 19:37
  you
• 19:37
  know,
• 19:37
  whatever,
• 19:40
  have
• 19:40
  this
• 19:42
  period
• 19:42
  where
• 19:43
  they
• 19:43
  start
• 19:44
  questioning
• 19:44
  their
• 19:45
  current
• 19:45
  identity
• 19:45
  and
• 19:46
  they,
• 19:46
  they
• 19:46
  may
• 19:46
  have
• 19:46
  spent
• 19:47
  so
• 19:47
  much
• 19:47
  time
• 19:48
  as,
• 19:48
  you
• 19:49
  know,
• 19:49
  a
• 19:50
  mom,
• 19:50
  a
• 19:51
  caregiver,
• 19:52
  you
• 19:53
  know,
• 19:53
  take
• 19:53
  whatever
• 19:54
  being
• 19:54
  in
• 19:55
  corporate
• 19:55
  America
• 19:56
  and
• 19:56
  they're
• 19:57
  like,
• 19:57
  is
• 19:57
  this
• 19:57
  all
• 19:58
  there
• 19:58
  is?
• 19:58
  And
• 19:58
  you
• 19:59
  know,
• 19:59
  what
• 19:59
  am
• 19:59
  I
• 19:59
  going
• 19:59
  to
• 19:59
  do
• 20:00
  with
• 20:00
  the
• 20:00
  next
• 20:00
  phase
• 20:01
  of
• 20:01
  my
• 20:01
  life?
• 20:01
  They
• 20:01
  may
• 20:01
  be
• 20:01
  looking
• 20:02
  at
• 20:02
  retirement.
• 20:02
  They
• 20:02
  maybe,
• 20:03
  you
• 20:03
  know,
• 20:03
  so
• 20:04
  I
• 20:04
  feel
• 20:05
  that
• 20:05
  it
• 20:05
  is
• 20:05
  that
• 20:06
  time
• 20:06
  of
• 20:06
  questioning,
• 20:08
  right?
• 20:08
  What,
• 20:09
  what's
• 20:09
  next?
• 20:10
  And
• 20:12
  that
• 20:12
  is
• 20:12
  a
• 20:13
  difficult
• 20:13
  time
• 20:14
  because
• 20:15
  I
• 20:15
  also
• 20:15
  think
• 20:15
  that
• 20:15
  sometimes
• 20:16
  women
• 20:16
  feel
• 20:17
  when
• 20:17
  they
• 20:17
  reach
• 20:17
  a
• 20:18
  certain
• 20:18
  age
• 20:18
  that
• 20:18
  they
• 20:18
  become
• 20:19
  invisible
• 20:19
  and
• 20:20
  that
• 20:20
  they
• 20:21
  don't,
• 20:23
  they're
• 20:23
  not
• 20:23
  seen
• 20:24
  the
• 20:24
  same
• 20:24
  way
• 20:24
  or
• 20:24
  not
• 20:25
  seen
• 20:25
  at
• 20:25
  all
• 20:26
  and
• 20:26
  they
• 20:28
  don't
• 20:28
  feel
• 20:28
  like
• 20:29
  they
• 20:29
  have
• 20:29
  much
• 20:29
  worth
• 20:31
  or
• 20:31
  well,
• 20:32
  I'll
• 20:32
  just
• 20:32
  sort
• 20:32
  of
• 20:32
  fade
• 20:33
  into
• 20:33
  the,
• 20:33
  fade
• 20:34
  into
• 20:34
  the
• 20:35
  abyss
• 20:35
  and
• 20:36
  it
• 20:37
  doesn't
• 20:37
  really
• 20:37
  matter.
• 20:38
  But
• 20:38
  it's
• 20:39
  reinvention.
• 20:40
  It's,
• 20:40
  you
• 20:40
  know,
• 20:40
  it's
• 20:41
  like
• 20:41
  it's
• 20:41
  a
• 20:41
  time
• 20:42
  to,
• 20:42
  to
• 20:42
  reassess
• 20:43
  things
• 20:43
  and
• 20:44
  be,
• 20:45
  what
• 20:45
  else?
• 20:45
  What
• 20:45
  can
• 20:46
  I
• 20:46
  do?
• 20:46
  Let's
• 20:46
  get
• 20:46
  curious,
• 20:47
  let's
• 20:47
  get,
• 20:48
  you
• 20:48
  know,
• 20:48
  build
• 20:48
  that
• 20:49
  awareness,
• 20:49
  build
• 20:49
  that
• 20:49
  curiosity
• 20:50
  and
• 20:51
  think
• 20:51
  about
• 20:51
  what
• 20:51
  you
• 20:52
  could,
• 20:52
  you
• 20:53
  know,
• 20:53
  feel
• 20:53
  into
• 20:54
  what
• 20:54
  you
• 20:54
  could
• 20:54
  do
• 20:54
  next.
• 20:56
  Right?
• 20:57
  So
• 20:57
  what
• 20:57
  do
• 20:58
  you
• 20:58
  tell
• 20:58
  those
• 20:58
  people
• 20:58
  that
• 20:58
  are
• 20:59
  absolutely
• 20:59
  just
• 21:00
  terrified
• 21:00
  to
• 21:00
  make
• 21:01
  changes
• 21:01
  to.
• 21:02
  Because
• 21:02
  I
• 21:02
  feel
• 21:02
  like
• 21:03
  a
• 21:03
  lot
• 21:03
  of
• 21:03
  people,
• 21:03
  I
• 21:04
  mean,
• 21:04
  40s
• 21:04
  is
• 21:05
  a
• 21:06
  good
• 21:06
  example
• 21:07
  because
• 21:07
  a
• 21:07
  lot
• 21:07
  of
• 21:07
  people,
• 21:08
  their
• 21:08
  kids
• 21:08
  just
• 21:09
  went
• 21:09
  off
• 21:09
  to
• 21:09
  college
• 21:10
  or,
• 21:11
  you
• 21:11
  know,
• 21:11
  they're
• 21:11
  empty
• 21:11
  nesters,
• 21:12
  they're
• 21:12
  not
• 21:12
  a
• 21:12
  mom,
• 21:13
  quote,
• 21:13
  unquote,
• 21:14
  not
• 21:14
  a
• 21:14
  mom
• 21:14
  anymore.
• 21:15
  That's
• 21:15
  not
• 21:15
  their
• 21:16
  job,
• 21:16
  that's
• 21:16
  not
• 21:16
  their
• 21:16
  identity.
• 21:17
  So
• 21:17
  they
• 21:17
  kind
• 21:18
  of
• 21:18
  lose
• 21:18
  that.
• 21:18
  What
• 21:19
  do
• 21:19
  you,
• 21:19
  what
• 21:19
  do
• 21:19
  you
• 21:19
  say
• 21:20
  and
• 21:20
  how
• 21:20
  do
• 21:20
  you
• 21:20
  help
• 21:20
  people
• 21:21
  through
• 21:21
  the
• 21:22
  I'm
• 21:22
  afraid
• 21:23
  to
• 21:23
  make
• 21:23
  changes
• 21:24
  kind
• 21:24
  of
• 21:24
  stage?
• 21:25
  I
• 21:26
  think
• 21:26
  everybody's
• 21:26
  afraid
• 21:27
  to
• 21:27
  make
• 21:27
  a
• 21:27
  change
• 21:28
  no
• 21:28
  matter
• 21:28
  what
• 21:28
  it
• 21:28
  is.
• 21:29
  And
• 21:30
  that's
• 21:30
  just
• 21:31
  fear
• 21:31
  of
• 21:31
  the
• 21:31
  unknown.
• 21:32
  And
• 21:32
  I
• 21:33
  think
• 21:33
  the
• 21:33
  other
• 21:33
  big
• 21:34
  thing
• 21:34
  about
• 21:34
  it
• 21:34
  is
• 21:35
  that
• 21:35
  if
• 21:35
  you
• 21:36
  have
• 21:36
  been
• 21:38
  so
• 21:38
  focused
• 21:38
  and
• 21:39
  so
• 21:39
  wrapped
• 21:40
  up
• 21:40
  in
• 21:40
  your
• 21:41
  identity
• 21:42
  as
• 21:42
  whatever
• 21:44
  mom,
• 21:45
  corporate
• 21:45
  executive,
• 21:46
  whatever
• 21:47
  it
• 21:47
  is,
• 21:48
  that
• 21:49
  you
• 21:49
  don't
• 21:50
  know
• 21:50
  what
• 21:50
  is
• 21:51
  on
• 21:51
  the
• 21:51
  other
• 21:51
  side
• 21:52
  of
• 21:52
  that.
• 21:53
  So
• 21:53
  it's
• 21:53
  scary.
• 21:54
  And
• 21:54
  the
• 21:55
  biggest
• 21:56
  Biggest
• 21:56
  fear,
• 21:56
  the
• 21:57
  biggest
• 21:57
  thing
• 21:57
  that's
• 21:58
  scary
• 21:58
  is,
• 21:58
  like
• 21:59
  I
• 21:59
  said,
• 21:59
  the
• 21:59
  unknown.
• 22:00
  The
• 22:00
  other
• 22:00
  thing
• 22:01
  is,
• 22:01
  if
• 22:01
  you're
• 22:02
  going
• 22:02
  to
• 22:02
  try
• 22:02
  something
• 22:02
  new,
• 22:04
  nobody
• 22:04
  likes
• 22:04
  to
• 22:04
  look
• 22:04
  like
• 22:05
  a
• 22:05
  beginner.
• 22:05
  Nobody
• 22:06
  likes
• 22:06
  to.
• 22:07
  You
• 22:07
  know,
• 22:07
  it's
• 22:08
  like,
• 22:08
  I
• 22:08
  don't
• 22:08
  want
• 22:09
  to.
• 22:09
  I'm
• 22:09
  gonna
• 22:09
  look
• 22:09
  stupid.
• 22:10
  My
• 22:10
  friends
• 22:10
  are
• 22:11
  gonna
• 22:11
  think
• 22:11
  I'm
• 22:11
  crazy.
• 22:13
  It's
• 22:13
  all
• 22:13
  about
• 22:13
  other
• 22:14
  people's
• 22:14
  perceptions,
• 22:15
  which
• 22:16
  is
• 22:16
  a
• 22:16
  beautiful
• 22:16
  thing
• 22:17
  about
• 22:17
  the
• 22:17
  horses,
• 22:18
  because
• 22:18
  they
• 22:18
  don't
• 22:19
  judge.
• 22:19
  They
• 22:20
  don't
• 22:20
  care.
• 22:21
  They
• 22:21
  don't
• 22:21
  care.
• 22:22
  So
• 22:22
  if
• 22:22
  you
• 22:22
  want
• 22:22
  to,
• 22:23
  you
• 22:23
  know,
• 22:24
  experiment,
• 22:25
  you
• 22:25
  know,
• 22:25
  think
• 22:25
  about,
• 22:26
  like,
• 22:26
  I'm
• 22:27
  gonna
• 22:27
  skip
• 22:28
  around
• 22:28
  the
• 22:28
  arena,
• 22:29
  or
• 22:29
  I'm
• 22:29
  gonna,
• 22:29
  you
• 22:29
  know,
• 22:30
  just
• 22:30
  sort
• 22:30
  of
• 22:31
  let
• 22:31
  my
• 22:31
  hair
• 22:31
  down
• 22:31
  and.
• 22:32
  And
• 22:32
  enjoy
• 22:33
  myself
• 22:33
  and
• 22:34
  explore
• 22:35
  what
• 22:35
  might
• 22:35
  be.
• 22:36
  What
• 22:36
  might
• 22:36
  bring
• 22:36
  passion
• 22:37
  to
• 22:37
  me.
• 22:38
  The
• 22:38
  horses
• 22:38
  be
• 22:39
  like,
• 22:39
  yeah,
• 22:39
  let's.
• 22:39
  I'm.
• 22:40
  I'm
• 22:40
  in.
• 22:40
  Let's
• 22:40
  do
• 22:41
  it.
• 22:41
  You
• 22:41
  know,
• 22:41
  let's.
• 22:42
  Let's
• 22:42
  be.
• 22:42
  Let's
• 22:43
  be
• 22:43
  true
• 22:43
  to
• 22:43
  yourself.
• 22:44
  Right.
• 22:44
  They're
• 22:45
  feeling
• 22:45
  the
• 22:45
  positivity
• 22:46
  and
• 22:46
  the
• 22:46
  joy
• 22:47
  in
• 22:47
  that,
• 22:47
  not
• 22:47
  the
• 22:48
  weirdness.
• 22:49
  Yeah.
• 22:50
  They're
• 22:50
  not
• 22:50
  going
• 22:50
  to
• 22:51
  judge
• 22:51
  you.
• 22:51
  They're
• 22:52
  not
• 22:52
  judging
• 22:52
  you.
• 22:52
  Yeah.
• 22:53
  So
• 22:53
  I
• 22:53
  think
• 22:54
  I'd
• 22:54
  say,
• 22:54
  you
• 22:54
  know,
• 22:55
  back
• 22:55
  to
• 22:55
  your
• 22:56
  question.
• 22:56
  What.
• 22:57
  What
• 22:57
  would
• 22:57
  I.
• 22:57
  What
• 22:57
  do
• 22:58
  I
• 22:58
  tell
• 22:58
  people?
• 22:58
  Like,
• 22:59
  you
• 23:00
  know,
• 23:00
  take
• 23:00
  off
• 23:01
  your
• 23:01
  identity
• 23:01
  glasses,
• 23:02
  put
• 23:02
  on
• 23:02
  your.
• 23:03
  I'm
• 23:03
  looking
• 23:03
  at
• 23:04
  things
• 23:04
  through
• 23:04
  beginner
• 23:05
  eyes,
• 23:06
  and
• 23:07
  remember
• 23:08
  how
• 23:08
  much
• 23:08
  fun
• 23:09
  it
• 23:09
  is
• 23:09
  to
• 23:10
  actually
• 23:10
  learn
• 23:11
  something
• 23:11
  new
• 23:12
  or
• 23:12
  to
• 23:12
  try
• 23:13
  something
• 23:13
  new.
• 23:14
  It
• 23:14
  can
• 23:14
  be
• 23:14
  very
• 23:15
  exciting
• 23:15
  and
• 23:15
  very
• 23:16
  invigorating
• 23:17
  and
• 23:18
  put
• 23:18
  the
• 23:18
  fear
• 23:19
  aside
• 23:20
  if
• 23:21
  you
• 23:21
  try
• 23:21
  something,
• 23:21
  you
• 23:21
  know.
• 23:22
  And
• 23:22
  the
• 23:22
  other
• 23:22
  thing
• 23:22
  is,
• 23:22
  I
• 23:22
  think
• 23:23
  people
• 23:23
  think,
• 23:24
  oh,
• 23:24
  if
• 23:24
  I
• 23:24
  do
• 23:24
  this
• 23:25
  thing,
• 23:25
  I'm
• 23:25
  gonna
• 23:25
  have
• 23:25
  to
• 23:26
  put
• 23:26
  in
• 23:26
  the
• 23:26
  10,000
• 23:26
  hours.
• 23:27
  I'm
• 23:27
  gonna
• 23:27
  have
• 23:27
  to
• 23:27
  be,
• 23:28
  you
• 23:28
  know,
• 23:29
  expert
• 23:29
  at
• 23:29
  that.
• 23:30
  And
• 23:30
  you're
• 23:30
  not.
• 23:30
  I
• 23:31
  mean,
• 23:31
  I've
• 23:31
  done
• 23:32
  a
• 23:32
  lot
• 23:32
  of
• 23:32
  things,
• 23:34
  you
• 23:34
  know,
• 23:34
  learning
• 23:35
  to
• 23:35
  fly
• 23:35
  a
• 23:35
  plane,
• 23:36
  you
• 23:36
  know,
• 23:38
  learning
• 23:38
  to
• 23:38
  play
• 23:39
  polo
• 23:39
  at
• 23:39
  63.
• 23:40
  I
• 23:40
  mean,
• 23:41
  these
• 23:41
  are
• 23:42
  all
• 23:42
  things
• 23:42
  that,
• 23:43
  you
• 23:43
  know,
• 23:43
  if
• 23:44
  you
• 23:44
  do
• 23:44
  it,
• 23:44
  great.
• 23:44
  If
• 23:45
  you
• 23:45
  just
• 23:45
  try
• 23:45
  it
• 23:46
  and
• 23:46
  enjoy
• 23:47
  the
• 23:47
  experience
• 23:49
  that
• 23:49
  is
• 23:50
  in
• 23:50
  itself
• 23:51
  beautiful.
• 23:51
  If
• 23:52
  you
• 23:52
  can
• 23:52
  just
• 23:53
  let
• 23:53
  go
• 23:53
  and
• 23:53
  enjoy
• 23:54
  the
• 23:54
  experience,
• 23:54
  it
• 23:55
  doesn't
• 23:55
  matter
• 23:55
  how
• 23:55
  silly
• 23:56
  you
• 23:56
  look
• 23:58
  or
• 23:58
  whatever,
• 23:59
  nobody's
• 23:59
  going
• 24:00
  to
• 24:00
  judge
• 24:00
  you.
• 24:00
  And
• 24:00
  if
• 24:00
  they
• 24:01
  do,
• 24:01
  that's
• 24:01
  on
• 24:02
  them.
• 24:02
  That's
• 24:02
  not
• 24:03
  your
• 24:03
  thing,
• 24:03
  Right,
• 24:04
  Right.
• 24:05
  Absolutely.
• 24:06
  I.
• 24:06
  And
• 24:06
  I
• 24:06
  love,
• 24:06
  though,
• 24:06
  that
• 24:07
  you
• 24:07
  said
• 24:07
  that
• 24:07
  the
• 24:07
  horses,
• 24:08
  they
• 24:08
  don't
• 24:08
  judge,
• 24:08
  they
• 24:09
  don't
• 24:09
  care,
• 24:09
  and
• 24:09
  they're.
• 24:10
  They're
• 24:11
  feeling
• 24:11
  the
• 24:11
  energy,
• 24:11
  which
• 24:12
  is
• 24:12
  making
• 24:12
  them
• 24:12
  feel
• 24:13
  safe
• 24:13
  and
• 24:13
  making
• 24:13
  you
• 24:13
  feel
• 24:14
  safe,
• 24:14
  so.
• 24:15
  Or
• 24:15
  them.
• 24:16
  The
• 24:16
  women
• 24:16
  feel
• 24:17
  safe.
• 24:19
  What
• 24:19
  do
• 24:19
  you
• 24:20
  talk
• 24:20
  to
• 24:20
  about
• 24:21
  your
• 24:21
  clients
• 24:21
  or
• 24:22
  what
• 24:22
  are
• 24:22
  some
• 24:22
  things
• 24:22
  with
• 24:23
  your
• 24:23
  Clients
• 24:23
  that
• 24:24
  are,
• 24:24
  like,
• 24:25
  breakthroughs
• 24:26
  that
• 24:26
  they've
• 24:26
  had
• 24:27
  while
• 24:27
  dealing
• 24:27
  with
• 24:27
  the
• 24:28
  horses
• 24:28
  are
• 24:28
  there.
• 24:29
  Give
• 24:29
  me
• 24:29
  a
• 24:30
  couple
• 24:30
  examples,
• 24:30
  because
• 24:30
  I'm.
• 24:31
  I'm
• 24:31
  very
• 24:31
  intrigued
• 24:32
  with
• 24:32
  this.
• 24:32
  Like,
• 24:33
  some
• 24:33
  things
• 24:33
  that
• 24:33
  they
• 24:33
  found
• 24:33
  out
• 24:34
  about
• 24:34
  themselves
• 24:34
  or
• 24:34
  discovered
• 24:35
  about
• 24:35
  themselves
• 24:35
  just
• 24:36
  because
• 24:36
  they
• 24:36
  were
• 24:36
  with
• 24:37
  this
• 24:37
  gigantic,
• 24:40
  joyful
• 24:40
  animal.
• 24:44
  A
• 24:45
  lot
• 24:45
  of
• 24:45
  times,
• 24:46
  some
• 24:46
  of
• 24:46
  the
• 24:46
  things
• 24:46
  maybe,
• 24:47
  you
• 24:47
  know,
• 24:48
  women
• 24:48
  especially
• 24:49
  tend
• 24:49
  to
• 24:49
  be
• 24:49
  people
• 24:50
  pleasers.
• 24:51
  Right.
• 24:51
  And
• 24:53
  making
• 24:54
  sure
• 24:54
  everybody
• 24:54
  else
• 24:54
  is
• 24:54
  taking
• 24:55
  care
• 24:55
  of
• 24:55
  and
• 24:55
  not
• 24:55
  taking
• 24:55
  care
• 24:56
  of
• 24:56
  themselves.
• 24:56
  So
• 24:57
  that,
• 24:58
  in
• 24:58
  and
• 24:58
  of
• 24:59
  itself,
• 24:59
  is
• 25:00
  an
• 25:00
  issue
• 25:00
  with
• 25:00
  boundaries
• 25:01
  and
• 25:01
  saying
• 25:02
  no.
• 25:02
  And
• 25:03
  horses
• 25:04
  are
• 25:04
  very
• 25:04
  good
• 25:04
  at
• 25:05
  testing
• 25:05
  and
• 25:06
  pushing
• 25:06
  your
• 25:06
  boundaries
• 25:07
  and
• 25:08
  helping
• 25:08
  you
• 25:09
  be
• 25:09
  aware
• 25:10
  that
• 25:10
  you
• 25:11
  have
• 25:11
  a
• 25:11
  boundary
• 25:11
  issue.
• 25:13
  For
• 25:13
  example,
• 25:15
  someone
• 25:15
  may
• 25:15
  be
• 25:16
  interacting
• 25:16
  with
• 25:16
  the
• 25:16
  horse,
• 25:17
  and
• 25:17
  the
• 25:17
  horse
• 25:17
  is
• 25:18
  very
• 25:19
  close
• 25:19
  to
• 25:19
  them
• 25:20
  and
• 25:20
  keeps
• 25:20
  getting
• 25:21
  closer.
• 25:21
  And
• 25:22
  at
• 25:22
  first.
• 25:23
  And
• 25:24
  I
• 25:24
  may
• 25:24
  say,
• 25:24
  so
• 25:24
  how.
• 25:25
  How
• 25:25
  does
• 25:25
  that
• 25:25
  feel?
• 25:26
  Oh,
• 25:27
  that's.
• 25:27
  You
• 25:27
  know,
• 25:28
  the
• 25:28
  client
• 25:28
  may
• 25:28
  say,
• 25:28
  oh,
• 25:29
  that's
• 25:29
  great.
• 25:29
  You
• 25:29
  know,
• 25:29
  they're
• 25:29
  just
• 25:30
  being
• 25:30
  snuggly.
• 25:31
  And
• 25:31
  I'm
• 25:31
  like,
• 25:31
  okay,
• 25:32
  we'll
• 25:32
  see.
• 25:34
  Right.
• 25:34
  And
• 25:34
  the
• 25:34
  horse
• 25:35
  may,
• 25:35
  you
• 25:35
  know,
• 25:35
  get
• 25:36
  to
• 25:36
  the
• 25:36
  point
• 25:36
  where
• 25:36
  they're
• 25:36
  nudging
• 25:37
  them
• 25:37
  with
• 25:37
  their
• 25:37
  head
• 25:38
  or
• 25:38
  they're
• 25:38
  nibbling
• 25:39
  at
• 25:39
  their
• 25:39
  jacket
• 25:40
  or.
• 25:41
  Or
• 25:41
  something
• 25:41
  else.
• 25:42
  And
• 25:42
  they
• 25:42
  may
• 25:42
  just
• 25:42
  get
• 25:42
  to
• 25:42
  the
• 25:42
  point
• 25:42
  where
• 25:43
  they're
• 25:43
  just
• 25:43
  being
• 25:43
  a
• 25:43
  little
• 25:43
  pushy.
• 25:44
  And
• 25:44
  I'll
• 25:44
  ask
• 25:44
  again,
• 25:45
  how
• 25:45
  does
• 25:46
  that
• 25:46
  feel
• 25:46
  now?
• 25:47
  Or
• 25:48
  how
• 25:48
  does
• 25:48
  that
• 25:48
  feel?
• 25:50
  And
• 25:50
  then
• 25:50
  they're
• 25:51
  like,
• 25:51
  not
• 25:51
  so
• 25:51
  good.
• 25:52
  It
• 25:52
  feels
• 25:52
  a
• 25:52
  little
• 25:53
  invasive.
• 25:53
  Oh,
• 25:54
  okay.
• 25:56
  What
• 25:56
  can
• 25:56
  you
• 25:56
  do?
• 25:57
  Right.
• 25:58
  And
• 25:58
  what
• 25:58
  can
• 25:59
  you
• 25:59
  do
• 25:59
  to.
• 26:01
  To
• 26:01
  change
• 26:01
  that
• 26:02
  scenario?
• 26:03
  Well,
• 26:04
  I
• 26:04
  don't
• 26:04
  want
• 26:04
  to
• 26:04
  hurt
• 26:04
  the
• 26:04
  horse's
• 26:05
  feelings.
• 26:07
  Okay.
• 26:08
  That's
• 26:08
  an
• 26:08
  interesting
• 26:09
  response.
• 26:09
  Red
• 26:10
  flag.
• 26:10
  Yeah,
• 26:10
  that's
• 26:10
  right.
• 26:11
  That's
• 26:11
  a
• 26:11
  very.
• 26:12
  Yes.
• 26:12
  And
• 26:12
  that's
• 26:12
  exactly
• 26:13
  what
• 26:13
  I
• 26:13
  would
• 26:13
  expect
• 26:13
  as
• 26:14
  a
• 26:14
  response.
• 26:15
  Yeah,
• 26:15
  I
• 26:16
  don't
• 26:16
  want
• 26:16
  to
• 26:16
  hurt
• 26:16
  the
• 26:16
  horse's
• 26:17
  feelings.
• 26:17
  I
• 26:17
  don't
• 26:18
  want
• 26:18
  to
• 26:18
  send
• 26:18
  the
• 26:18
  horse
• 26:18
  away.
• 26:19
  I
• 26:19
  don't
• 26:19
  want
• 26:19
  to
• 26:19
  push
• 26:19
  the
• 26:19
  horse
• 26:20
  away
• 26:20
  because
• 26:20
  they
• 26:20
  think
• 26:20
  maybe
• 26:21
  the
• 26:21
  horse
• 26:21
  won't
• 26:21
  come
• 26:21
  back
• 26:22
  and
• 26:22
  snuggle
• 26:22
  when
• 26:22
  they
• 26:22
  actually
• 26:23
  want
• 26:24
  it
• 26:24
  to.
• 26:25
  And
• 26:26
  so
• 26:26
  we'll
• 26:26
  go
• 26:27
  through
• 26:27
  some
• 26:27
  exercises
• 26:28
  about,
• 26:28
  you
• 26:29
  know,
• 26:29
  creating
• 26:29
  safe
• 26:30
  and
• 26:30
  healthy
• 26:31
  boundaries.
• 26:32
  So
• 26:32
  that's
• 26:32
  a
• 26:32
  really
• 26:32
  good
• 26:33
  one.
• 26:33
  And
• 26:33
  that
• 26:33
  comes
• 26:34
  up
• 26:34
  a
• 26:34
  lot,
• 26:35
  I'm
• 26:35
  sure.
• 26:37
  Yeah.
• 26:37
  I'm
• 26:38
  gonna
• 26:38
  test
• 26:38
  your
• 26:38
  boundaries
• 26:39
  for
• 26:39
  sure.
• 26:42
  Another
• 26:42
  one,
• 26:42
  you
• 26:43
  know,
• 26:43
  might
• 26:43
  be
• 26:43
  something
• 26:44
  like,
• 26:44
  you
• 26:44
  know,
• 26:44
  people
• 26:44
  are
• 26:45
  transferring
• 26:46
  their
• 26:46
  stuff
• 26:46
  onto
• 26:47
  the
• 26:47
  horse.
• 26:48
  The
• 26:49
  horse
• 26:49
  may
• 26:49
  be.
• 26:49
  For
• 26:50
  no
• 26:50
  other
• 26:51
  reason.
• 26:51
  Not
• 26:52
  that
• 26:52
  they
• 26:52
  don't
• 26:52
  feel
• 26:52
  safe
• 26:53
  or
• 26:53
  anything
• 26:53
  else,
• 26:53
  but.
• 26:54
  Sorry,
• 26:54
  my
• 26:54
  dog
• 26:54
  is
• 26:54
  barking.
• 26:56
  Hold
• 26:57
  on
• 26:57
  one
• 26:57
  second.
• 26:58
  Molly,
• 26:58
  stop.
• 27:01
  Sorry
• 27:01
  about
• 27:01
  that.
• 27:03
  My
• 27:03
  dog.
• 27:04
  Yeah,
• 27:05
  lover.
• 27:08
  So
• 27:08
  I'll
• 27:08
  go
• 27:08
  ahead.
• 27:09
  I'm
• 27:09
  sorry.
• 27:11
  So
• 27:11
  the
• 27:12
  Other.
• 27:12
  Another
• 27:12
  one
• 27:12
  is
• 27:13
  that,
• 27:13
  you
• 27:13
  know,
• 27:13
  transferring
• 27:14
  of
• 27:16
  what
• 27:16
  you're
• 27:16
  feeling
• 27:17
  and
• 27:17
  things
• 27:17
  that
• 27:17
  are
• 27:17
  bothering
• 27:18
  you
• 27:18
  onto
• 27:18
  the
• 27:18
  horse.
• 27:19
  Like
• 27:19
  it's.
• 27:19
  The
• 27:19
  horse
• 27:19
  is
• 27:20
  doing
• 27:20
  this.
• 27:20
  So,
• 27:20
  for
• 27:20
  example,
• 27:21
  if
• 27:22
  the
• 27:22
  horse
• 27:22
  is
• 27:22
  just
• 27:23
  being
• 27:23
  horse
• 27:23
  over
• 27:24
  in
• 27:24
  the
• 27:24
  corner
• 27:24
  of
• 27:24
  the
• 27:24
  arena,
• 27:27
  the
• 27:27
  person
• 27:27
  may
• 27:28
  immediately
• 27:28
  start
• 27:28
  talking
• 27:29
  about
• 27:29
  the
• 27:29
  horse.
• 27:31
  Right.
• 27:31
  Horse
• 27:32
  doesn't
• 27:32
  like
• 27:32
  me,
• 27:35
  is
• 27:35
  bored.
• 27:36
  The
• 27:36
  horse
• 27:37
  is
• 27:38
  ignoring
• 27:39
  me.
• 27:40
  The
• 27:40
  horse
• 27:40
  is
• 27:40
  this.
• 27:41
  The
• 27:41
  horse.
• 27:41
  Is
• 27:42
  that
• 27:42
  the.
• 27:44
  So
• 27:45
  it's
• 27:45
  everybody
• 27:45
  else's
• 27:45
  fault,
• 27:46
  but
• 27:46
  theirs.
• 27:47
  Tell
• 27:48
  me
• 27:48
  more
• 27:48
  about
• 27:48
  that.
• 27:49
  Right?
• 27:49
  Why.
• 27:49
  Why
• 27:50
  do
• 27:50
  you
• 27:50
  feel.
• 27:51
  Why
• 27:51
  do
• 27:51
  you
• 27:51
  feel
• 27:51
  that?
• 27:53
  Well,
• 27:53
  the
• 27:53
  horse
• 27:53
  is
• 27:53
  standing
• 27:54
  over
• 27:54
  there
• 27:54
  in
• 27:54
  the
• 27:54
  corner
• 27:54
  and
• 27:54
  they're
• 27:55
  not
• 27:55
  coming
• 27:55
  right
• 27:55
  up
• 27:55
  to
• 27:55
  me
• 27:56
  and
• 27:56
  they're
• 27:56
  not,
• 27:56
  you
• 27:56
  know,
• 27:57
  and
• 27:57
  they're
• 27:57
  not
• 27:57
  interacting
• 27:58
  with
• 27:58
  me
• 27:58
  and
• 27:58
  they're
• 27:58
  not.
• 27:59
  Oh,
• 27:59
  okay,
• 28:02
  tell
• 28:02
  me
• 28:02
  more.
• 28:03
  Right?
• 28:03
  Why
• 28:04
  do
• 28:04
  you
• 28:04
  feel
• 28:04
  that?
• 28:04
  Why
• 28:05
  do
• 28:05
  you
• 28:05
  feel
• 28:05
  like
• 28:05
  the
• 28:05
  horse
• 28:06
  is
• 28:06
  ignoring
• 28:06
  you?
• 28:06
  Well,
• 28:06
  he's
• 28:07
  just
• 28:07
  standing
• 28:07
  over
• 28:07
  there,
• 28:08
  you
• 28:08
  know,
• 28:08
  and
• 28:08
  so
• 28:09
  it
• 28:09
  begins.
• 28:10
  Does
• 28:10
  that
• 28:11
  have,
• 28:11
  you
• 28:11
  know,
• 28:11
  how
• 28:12
  does
• 28:12
  that
• 28:12
  translate
• 28:14
  to
• 28:14
  you
• 28:14
  on
• 28:15
  a
• 28:15
  regular
• 28:15
  basis?
• 28:15
  And
• 28:15
  then
• 28:16
  they're
• 28:16
  like,
• 28:16
  oh,
• 28:18
  oh,
• 28:19
  yeah,
• 28:21
  yeah.
• 28:21
  So
• 28:22
  it's
• 28:22
  like.
• 28:22
  Then
• 28:22
  they
• 28:23
  realize
• 28:23
  that
• 28:24
  this
• 28:25
  is
• 28:25
  how
• 28:25
  they
• 28:25
  feel
• 28:26
  in
• 28:26
  real
• 28:26
  life.
• 28:27
  And
• 28:27
  this
• 28:28
  is.
• 28:28
  They
• 28:28
  feel
• 28:28
  that
• 28:29
  people
• 28:29
  don't
• 28:30
  like
• 28:30
  them.
• 28:30
  They
• 28:31
  feel
• 28:31
  that.
• 28:31
  So
• 28:32
  of
• 28:32
  course
• 28:32
  that
• 28:33
  you're
• 28:33
  going
• 28:33
  to
• 28:33
  internalize
• 28:34
  all
• 28:34
  those
• 28:34
  things
• 28:35
  and
• 28:35
  put
• 28:35
  up
• 28:36
  walls
• 28:36
  so
• 28:37
  that
• 28:37
  you're
• 28:38
  going
• 28:38
  to
• 28:39
  push
• 28:39
  people
• 28:39
  away
• 28:42
  because
• 28:42
  you
• 28:42
  already
• 28:42
  assume
• 28:43
  that
• 28:43
  they're
• 28:43
  not
• 28:43
  going
• 28:43
  to
• 28:43
  like
• 28:44
  you
• 28:44
  or
• 28:44
  that
• 28:44
  you're
• 28:44
  boring
• 28:45
  or
• 28:45
  that
• 28:45
  you're.
• 28:45
  Whatever.
• 28:46
  So
• 28:47
  not
• 28:47
  about
• 28:47
  this.
• 28:48
  Yeah,
• 28:48
  I
• 28:48
  mean,
• 28:48
  it's
• 28:49
  just
• 28:49
  like
• 28:49
  a
• 28:49
  great
• 28:50
  big.
• 28:50
  I
• 28:50
  mean,
• 28:50
  it's.
• 28:50
  Mirror,
• 28:52
  mirror,
• 28:52
  mirror.
• 28:53
  Exactly,
• 28:54
  I
• 28:54
  was
• 28:54
  gonna
• 28:54
  say.
• 28:54
  And
• 28:55
  not
• 28:55
  only
• 28:55
  that,
• 28:56
  but
• 28:56
  like,
• 28:56
  it's
• 28:56
  like,
• 28:56
  okay,
• 28:57
  so
• 28:57
  then
• 28:57
  when
• 28:57
  you
• 28:57
  explain,
• 28:58
  hey,
• 28:58
  this
• 28:59
  is
• 28:59
  how
• 28:59
  horses
• 28:59
  work.
• 29:00
  They're
• 29:00
  feeding
• 29:01
  off
• 29:01
  your
• 29:01
  energy.
• 29:02
  They're
• 29:03
  like,
• 29:03
  maybe
• 29:03
  the
• 29:03
  horse
• 29:04
  is,
• 29:04
  you
• 29:04
  know,
• 29:04
  and.
• 29:05
  And
• 29:05
  then
• 29:05
  you.
• 29:05
  You
• 29:06
  open
• 29:06
  yourself
• 29:06
  to
• 29:07
  a
• 29:07
  whole
• 29:07
  can
• 29:07
  of
• 29:07
  worms
• 29:08
  of.
• 29:08
  You
• 29:08
  have
• 29:09
  to
• 29:09
  be
• 29:09
  self
• 29:09
  aware.
• 29:09
  You
• 29:10
  have
• 29:10
  no
• 29:10
  choice
• 29:11
  at
• 29:11
  this
• 29:11
  point
• 29:11
  because
• 29:12
  I
• 29:12
  came
• 29:12
  here
• 29:12
  to
• 29:12
  play
• 29:12
  with
• 29:13
  this
• 29:13
  horse
• 29:13
  and
• 29:13
  the
• 29:13
  horse
• 29:13
  doesn't
• 29:13
  even
• 29:14
  like
• 29:14
  me.
• 29:15
  So
• 29:15
  what,
• 29:15
  you
• 29:15
  know,
• 29:15
  it's.
• 29:16
  Oh,
• 29:16
  my
• 29:16
  goodness.
• 29:16
  It's
• 29:17
  just
• 29:17
  complicated.
• 29:18
  We're
• 29:18
  complicated.
• 29:19
  Very
• 29:19
  complicated,
• 29:20
  but
• 29:20
  yet.
• 29:21
  It's
• 29:21
  very
• 29:21
  complicated,
• 29:22
  but
• 29:22
  yet
• 29:22
  the
• 29:23
  big
• 29:23
  picture
• 29:23
  of
• 29:24
  it
• 29:24
  is
• 29:25
  kind
• 29:25
  of
• 29:25
  simple
• 29:26
  in
• 29:26
  a
• 29:26
  way.
• 29:26
  It's
• 29:27
  really
• 29:27
  simple.
• 29:27
  Yeah,
• 29:27
  I
• 29:28
  mean,
• 29:28
  it
• 29:28
  is
• 29:28
  really
• 29:28
  simple.
• 29:29
  I
• 29:29
  mean,
• 29:30
  the
• 29:30
  horses,
• 29:32
  to
• 29:32
  take
• 29:32
  responsibility
• 29:33
  for
• 29:33
  yourself,
• 29:34
  they
• 29:34
  teach
• 29:35
  you
• 29:35
  to
• 29:35
  be
• 29:35
  more
• 29:35
  aware
• 29:36
  of
• 29:36
  what's
• 29:37
  actually
• 29:37
  going
• 29:37
  on
• 29:38
  with
• 29:38
  you.
• 29:39
  The
• 29:39
  thing
• 29:40
  is,
• 29:40
  like
• 29:40
  I
• 29:40
  said,
• 29:40
  horses
• 29:41
  are
• 29:41
  just
• 29:42
  information
• 29:42
  processors,
• 29:44
  right?
• 29:44
  If,
• 29:44
  you
• 29:45
  know,
• 29:45
  they
• 29:45
  take
• 29:46
  things
• 29:46
  in
• 29:47
  and
• 29:47
  they
• 29:47
  process
• 29:48
  them
• 29:48
  and
• 29:48
  then
• 29:48
  they
• 29:49
  Let
• 29:49
  them
• 29:49
  go.
• 29:49
  And
• 29:50
  that's
• 29:50
  the
• 29:50
  other
• 29:50
  big
• 29:51
  takeaway
• 29:51
  that
• 29:51
  we
• 29:52
  can
• 29:52
  get
• 29:52
  from
• 29:52
  horses
• 29:53
  is
• 29:53
  they
• 29:53
  don't
• 29:54
  typically
• 29:54
  hang
• 29:55
  on
• 29:55
  to
• 29:55
  things.
• 29:55
  Now,
• 29:56
  have
• 29:56
  horses
• 29:58
  hold.
• 29:59
  Can
• 29:59
  horses
• 29:59
  hold
• 30:00
  on
• 30:00
  to
• 30:00
  trauma?
• 30:00
  Absolutely,
• 30:01
  if
• 30:02
  they've
• 30:02
  been
• 30:02
  abused
• 30:03
  or
• 30:03
  neglected
• 30:03
  or
• 30:04
  whatever.
• 30:04
  So
• 30:04
  it
• 30:05
  may
• 30:05
  take
• 30:05
  a
• 30:05
  long
• 30:06
  time
• 30:06
  to
• 30:06
  reconnect
• 30:07
  with
• 30:07
  that
• 30:07
  horse
• 30:07
  and
• 30:07
  bring
• 30:08
  that
• 30:08
  horse
• 30:09
  back
• 30:09
  into
• 30:09
  themselves
• 30:10
  where
• 30:10
  they
• 30:10
  feel
• 30:11
  safe
• 30:11
  and
• 30:11
  they
• 30:11
  feel
• 30:11
  comfortable,
• 30:12
  just
• 30:12
  like
• 30:12
  humans.
• 30:13
  Right.
• 30:14
  But
• 30:15
  they're
• 30:15
  really
• 30:16
  good
• 30:16
  at
• 30:17
  getting
• 30:17
  a
• 30:17
  message
• 30:18
  from
• 30:18
  another
• 30:19
  individual
• 30:19
  in
• 30:19
  their
• 30:20
  herd
• 30:20
  and
• 30:20
  getting
• 30:21
  like,
• 30:21
  okay,
• 30:22
  I
• 30:22
  got
• 30:22
  you.
• 30:22
  I
• 30:23
  will
• 30:23
  not
• 30:23
  eat
• 30:23
  your
• 30:23
  hay
• 30:24
  anymore
• 30:24
  because
• 30:25
  you
• 30:25
  just
• 30:25
  kicked
• 30:25
  me
• 30:25
  in
• 30:26
  the
• 30:26
  butt.
• 30:27
  So
• 30:29
  they're
• 30:29
  not
• 30:29
  gonna
• 30:30
  then,
• 30:30
  you
• 30:30
  know,
• 30:30
  go
• 30:31
  back
• 30:31
  to
• 30:31
  their
• 30:31
  other
• 30:32
  herd
• 30:32
  mates
• 30:32
  and
• 30:32
  be
• 30:33
  like,
• 30:33
  you
• 30:34
  know,
• 30:35
  Sally
• 30:36
  over
• 30:36
  there
• 30:36
  kicked
• 30:37
  me
• 30:37
  in
• 30:37
  the
• 30:37
  butt,
• 30:38
  and
• 30:38
  now
• 30:38
  she's
• 30:39
  just
• 30:39
  ignoring
• 30:39
  me
• 30:40
  and
• 30:40
  blah,
• 30:40
  blah,
• 30:40
  blah,
• 30:41
  and
• 30:41
  making
• 30:41
  up
• 30:41
  this
• 30:41
  whole
• 30:42
  story
• 30:42
  about
• 30:42
  the.
• 30:43
  That
• 30:43
  incident.
• 30:43
  Right.
• 30:44
  And
• 30:44
  then
• 30:44
  relating
• 30:45
  it
• 30:45
  and
• 30:45
  building
• 30:46
  on
• 30:46
  it
• 30:46
  and
• 30:46
  just
• 30:47
  living
• 30:47
  in
• 30:47
  that
• 30:48
  loop.
• 30:49
  They're
• 30:50
  just
• 30:50
  like,
• 30:50
  okay,
• 30:50
  I
• 30:50
  know
• 30:51
  Sally
• 30:51
  gonna.
• 30:51
  Sally's
• 30:52
  gonna
• 30:52
  push
• 30:52
  me
• 30:52
  off
• 30:53
  the
• 30:53
  hay
• 30:53
  pile.
• 30:54
  Right.
• 30:55
  I
• 30:55
  gotta
• 30:55
  go
• 30:55
  find
• 30:56
  my
• 30:56
  own
• 30:56
  hay
• 30:56
  pile.
• 30:58
  Message
• 30:59
  received.
• 31:00
  Right,
• 31:00
  Right.
• 31:01
  So
• 31:01
  if
• 31:01
  people
• 31:02
  are
• 31:02
  listening
• 31:02
  to
• 31:02
  this
• 31:03
  and
• 31:03
  people
• 31:03
  are
• 31:03
  like,
• 31:03
  wow,
• 31:03
  this
• 31:03
  sounds
• 31:04
  amazing.
• 31:06
  Are.
• 31:06
  I've
• 31:07
  never
• 31:07
  heard
• 31:07
  of
• 31:07
  an
• 31:08
  Equus
• 31:09
  coach.
• 31:11
  Are
• 31:11
  there
• 31:11
  a
• 31:12
  lot
• 31:12
  of
• 31:12
  you
• 31:12
  out
• 31:12
  there?
• 31:14
  There
• 31:14
  are.
• 31:15
  And
• 31:15
  actually,
• 31:15
  I
• 31:15
  mean,
• 31:16
  depending
• 31:16
  on
• 31:16
  what
• 31:16
  area
• 31:16
  you're
• 31:17
  in.
• 31:17
  So
• 31:17
  I'm
• 31:17
  in
• 31:17
  the
• 31:17
  Pacific
• 31:18
  Northwest.
• 31:19
  I
• 31:20
  also
• 31:20
  have
• 31:20
  retreats
• 31:21
  periodically
• 31:21
  in
• 31:22
  various
• 31:22
  places
• 31:23
  in
• 31:23
  California
• 31:24
  and
• 31:24
  so
• 31:24
  forth.
• 31:25
  But
• 31:26
  we
• 31:26
  do
• 31:26
  also
• 31:27
  have
• 31:27
  a
• 31:27
  database
• 31:28
  on
• 31:28
  our
• 31:28
  website,
• 31:30
  center
• 31:30
  for
• 31:30
  Equus
• 31:31
  Coaching.
• 31:31
  If
• 31:32
  you're
• 31:32
  looking
• 31:32
  for
• 31:32
  someone
• 31:33
  in
• 31:33
  your
• 31:33
  area,
• 31:35
  you
• 31:35
  can
• 31:35
  also
• 31:35
  Google
• 31:36
  Equus
• 31:36
  coaching
• 31:37
  or
• 31:37
  Equine
• 31:37
  assisted
• 31:38
  coaching
• 31:39
  to
• 31:40
  find
• 31:40
  someone
• 31:40
  who
• 31:41
  does
• 31:41
  this
• 31:41
  type
• 31:42
  of
• 31:42
  connection
• 31:43
  with
• 31:43
  horses
• 31:45
  near
• 31:45
  you.
• 31:46
  Okay.
• 31:47
  And
• 31:47
  would
• 31:47
  you
• 31:48
  suggest
• 31:48
  getting
• 31:49
  familiar
• 31:49
  with
• 31:49
  horses
• 31:50
  in
• 31:50
  general
• 31:50
  before
• 31:50
  you
• 31:51
  try
• 31:51
  to
• 31:51
  do
• 31:51
  this
• 31:51
  so
• 31:52
  that
• 31:52
  you
• 31:52
  don't
• 31:52
  go
• 31:52
  in
• 31:52
  and
• 31:53
  petrified?
• 31:54
  No,
• 31:55
  no,
• 31:55
  not
• 31:55
  necessarily.
• 31:56
  Because
• 31:57
  when
• 31:57
  you're
• 31:58
  with
• 31:58
  the
• 31:58
  horse,
• 31:59
  if
• 31:59
  you're
• 31:59
  scared,
• 31:59
  it's
• 32:00
  okay.
• 32:00
  You
• 32:01
  know,
• 32:01
  the.
• 32:01
  Whoever
• 32:01
  the
• 32:02
  practitioner
• 32:03
  is
• 32:03
  is
• 32:03
  going
• 32:04
  to
• 32:05
  teach
• 32:05
  you
• 32:06
  some
• 32:06
  safe
• 32:07
  interactions
• 32:08
  and
• 32:09
  show
• 32:09
  you
• 32:09
  how
• 32:09
  to
• 32:09
  be
• 32:09
  safe.
• 32:10
  And
• 32:10
  they're
• 32:10
  also
• 32:10
  not
• 32:10
  going
• 32:11
  to
• 32:11
  let
• 32:11
  you
• 32:11
  get,
• 32:12
  you
• 32:12
  know,
• 32:12
  hurt.
• 32:13
  And
• 32:14
  if
• 32:14
  you
• 32:14
  do
• 32:14
  have
• 32:15
  a
• 32:15
  fear
• 32:15
  of
• 32:15
  horses,
• 32:16
  that's
• 32:16
  okay.
• 32:17
  Maybe
• 32:17
  you
• 32:17
  just
• 32:17
  start
• 32:17
  out
• 32:18
  by
• 32:18
  brushing
• 32:18
  the
• 32:18
  horse
• 32:19
  and
• 32:19
  being
• 32:19
  close
• 32:19
  to
• 32:19
  the
• 32:20
  horse.
• 32:20
  That
• 32:21
  is
• 32:21
  a
• 32:21
  huge
• 32:21
  interaction
• 32:22
  right
• 32:22
  there
• 32:22
  because
• 32:23
  that
• 32:23
  in
• 32:23
  and
• 32:23
  of
• 32:23
  itself
• 32:24
  will
• 32:25
  calm
• 32:25
  your
• 32:25
  nervous
• 32:26
  system.
• 32:26
  I
• 32:26
  was.
• 32:26
  I
• 32:27
  was
• 32:27
  gonna
• 32:27
  say
• 32:27
  just.
• 32:27
  Yeah,
• 32:28
  just
• 32:28
  like
• 32:28
  petting
• 32:28
  a
• 32:29
  dog
• 32:29
  or
• 32:29
  they
• 32:29
  say,
• 32:30
  snuggle
• 32:30
  with
• 32:30
  your
• 32:30
  dog.
• 32:30
  It
• 32:31
  drops
• 32:31
  your
• 32:31
  cortisol
• 32:31
  levels
• 32:32
  by
• 32:32
  like,
• 32:32
  20.
• 32:34
  Yeah,
• 32:34
  exactly.
• 32:35
  Exactly.
• 32:36
  So
• 32:36
  there's
• 32:37
  lots
• 32:37
  of
• 32:37
  ways
• 32:37
  that
• 32:37
  you
• 32:38
  can
• 32:38
  be
• 32:38
  with
• 32:38
  horses
• 32:39
  that
• 32:39
  it's
• 32:39
  not
• 32:40
  scary
• 32:40
  or
• 32:40
  threatening.
• 32:42
  You
• 32:42
  know,
• 32:42
  no
• 32:42
  one's
• 32:43
  going
• 32:43
  to
• 32:43
  put
• 32:43
  you
• 32:43
  in
• 32:43
  harm's
• 32:44
  way
• 32:44
  or
• 32:44
  have
• 32:45
  you
• 32:45
  interact
• 32:45
  with
• 32:45
  a
• 32:45
  horse.
• 32:46
  That's
• 32:46
  unsafe.
• 32:47
  That's
• 32:48
  amazing.
• 32:49
  So
• 32:49
  if
• 32:49
  you
• 32:49
  had
• 32:49
  to
• 32:50
  sum
• 32:50
  up
• 32:50
  all
• 32:50
  of
• 32:50
  your
• 32:50
  jobs,
• 32:51
  all
• 32:51
  of
• 32:51
  your
• 32:51
  experiences,
• 32:52
  I
• 32:52
  mean,
• 32:52
  I'm
• 32:53
  looking
• 32:53
  at
• 32:53
  your
• 32:53
  thing,
• 32:53
  and
• 32:53
  you've
• 32:54
  been
• 32:54
  a
• 32:54
  dj,
• 32:54
  a
• 32:54
  comic,
• 32:55
  a
• 32:55
  pilot,
• 32:55
  a
• 32:56
  coach,
• 32:56
  like,
• 32:56
  you
• 32:56
  do
• 32:56
  all
• 32:57
  kinds
• 32:57
  of
• 32:57
  stuff.
• 32:58
  How
• 32:58
  would
• 32:59
  you
• 32:59
  put
• 32:59
  that
• 32:59
  into
• 32:59
  one
• 33:00
  big
• 33:00
  package?
• 33:00
  I
• 33:00
  mean,
• 33:00
  how
• 33:01
  does
• 33:01
  that
• 33:01
  shape
• 33:01
  you?
• 33:02
  Like
• 33:02
  to
• 33:02
  work
• 33:02
  with
• 33:03
  your
• 33:03
  clients?
• 33:05
  Yeah,
• 33:06
  I'm.
• 33:06
  I'm.
• 33:06
  You've
• 33:07
  done
• 33:07
  a
• 33:07
  lot.
• 33:08
  I'm.
• 33:08
  I.
• 33:09
  And.
• 33:09
  And
• 33:09
  it's
• 33:10
  out
• 33:10
  of
• 33:10
  curiosity.
• 33:10
  It's
• 33:11
  out
• 33:11
  of
• 33:11
  exploration.
• 33:12
  It's
• 33:12
  out
• 33:13
  of
• 33:13
  just
• 33:14
  being
• 33:14
  like,
• 33:14
  I
• 33:15
  want
• 33:16
  to
• 33:16
  explore
• 33:18
  that
• 33:19
  thing
• 33:20
  that
• 33:20
  is.
• 33:21
  Has
• 33:21
  come.
• 33:21
  It's.
• 33:22
  It's
• 33:22
  about
• 33:23
  being
• 33:23
  open.
• 33:24
  And
• 33:24
  I
• 33:24
  think
• 33:24
  if
• 33:25
  you're
• 33:25
  open,
• 33:26
  you're
• 33:26
  going
• 33:27
  to
• 33:27
  have
• 33:27
  more
• 33:27
  things
• 33:28
  presented
• 33:29
  to
• 33:29
  you.
• 33:29
  And,
• 33:30
  And.
• 33:30
  And
• 33:31
  when
• 33:31
  you're
• 33:31
  open,
• 33:32
  you
• 33:32
  can
• 33:33
  be
• 33:33
  more
• 33:33
  aware
• 33:33
  of
• 33:34
  what's
• 33:34
  coming
• 33:34
  in
• 33:35
  into
• 33:36
  your.
• 33:36
  Into
• 33:36
  your,
• 33:37
  you
• 33:37
  know,
• 33:37
  your.
• 33:38
  Your
• 33:38
  realm,
• 33:39
  your
• 33:39
  bubble,
• 33:39
  your
• 33:40
  whatever.
• 33:41
  Expand
• 33:41
  that
• 33:41
  bubble.
• 33:42
  You
• 33:42
  know,
• 33:42
  be
• 33:43
  expansive,
• 33:43
  be
• 33:43
  curious,
• 33:45
  explore
• 33:46
  and,
• 33:47
  you
• 33:47
  know,
• 33:47
  build
• 33:48
  some
• 33:48
  awareness.
• 33:48
  And
• 33:49
  don't
• 33:49
  be
• 33:49
  afraid
• 33:49
  to
• 33:51
  try
• 33:51
  new
• 33:52
  things
• 33:53
  with
• 33:53
  beginner
• 33:54
  eyes.
• 33:54
  Even
• 33:55
  if
• 33:55
  it's
• 33:55
  something
• 33:56
  very
• 33:56
  routine
• 33:57
  that
• 33:57
  you
• 33:58
  do,
• 33:58
  like
• 33:59
  drive
• 33:59
  to
• 33:59
  a
• 33:59
  certain
• 34:00
  place,
• 34:00
  take
• 34:01
  a
• 34:01
  different
• 34:01
  route,
• 34:02
  open
• 34:02
  your
• 34:02
  eyes
• 34:03
  and
• 34:03
  be
• 34:03
  like,
• 34:03
  oh.
• 34:04
  Or
• 34:04
  take
• 34:04
  the
• 34:04
  same
• 34:05
  route
• 34:05
  and
• 34:05
  just
• 34:05
  notice
• 34:06
  one
• 34:06
  thing
• 34:07
  that
• 34:07
  you
• 34:07
  have
• 34:08
  never
• 34:08
  noticed
• 34:08
  before
• 34:09
  or
• 34:09
  that
• 34:09
  you've
• 34:10
  just
• 34:10
  taken
• 34:10
  for
• 34:11
  granted.
• 34:11
  I
• 34:11
  think
• 34:12
  if
• 34:12
  we
• 34:12
  start
• 34:13
  looking
• 34:13
  at
• 34:13
  life
• 34:14
  as
• 34:14
  an
• 34:14
  experience,
• 34:17
  it's.
• 34:17
  It's
• 34:18
  a
• 34:18
  lot
• 34:18
  healthier
• 34:18
  way
• 34:18
  to
• 34:19
  go
• 34:19
  through.
• 34:19
  Go
• 34:19
  through
• 34:20
  life.
• 34:20
  So
• 34:20
  I've
• 34:20
  had
• 34:20
  a
• 34:21
  lot
• 34:21
  of
• 34:21
  experiences
• 34:21
  that
• 34:22
  I
• 34:22
  just
• 34:22
  love,
• 34:22
  and,
• 34:23
  you
• 34:23
  know.
• 34:24
  It'S
• 34:24
  all
• 34:24
  good
• 34:25
  and
• 34:25
  good,
• 34:25
  bad,
• 34:26
  ugly.
• 34:26
  I
• 34:26
  mean,
• 34:27
  you
• 34:27
  got
• 34:27
  to
• 34:27
  learn
• 34:27
  how
• 34:27
  to
• 34:27
  navigate
• 34:28
  them
• 34:28
  all.
• 34:28
  It's
• 34:29
  the
• 34:29
  journey.
• 34:29
  Yeah,
• 34:29
  exactly.
• 34:30
  The
• 34:30
  journey.
• 34:31
  So
• 34:31
  tell
• 34:32
  people
• 34:32
  where
• 34:33
  that.
• 34:33
  How
• 34:33
  they
• 34:33
  can
• 34:33
  work
• 34:33
  with
• 34:34
  you,
• 34:34
  how
• 34:34
  they
• 34:34
  can
• 34:34
  find
• 34:34
  out
• 34:35
  about
• 34:35
  you,
• 34:35
  where
• 34:35
  they
• 34:35
  go
• 34:36
  to
• 34:36
  find.
• 34:36
  To
• 34:37
  talk
• 34:37
  to
• 34:37
  you.
• 34:37
  Yeah,
• 34:38
  that's
• 34:38
  great.
• 34:38
  You
• 34:38
  can
• 34:38
  go
• 34:39
  to
• 34:39
  my
• 34:39
  website,
• 34:39
  Willoughby
• 34:40
  coaching.com
• 34:41
  I'm
• 34:42
  also
• 34:42
  on
• 34:42
  Instagram
• 34:43
  at
• 34:43
  Sue
• 34:44
  Willoughby.
• 34:44
  And
• 34:44
  if
• 34:45
  you
• 34:45
  like,
• 34:45
  you
• 34:45
  can
• 34:45
  check
• 34:46
  out
• 34:46
  my
• 34:46
  podcast,
• 34:46
  Midlife
• 34:47
  Strategies
• 34:47
  for
• 34:48
  Badass
• 34:48
  Women.
• 34:49
  Okay.
• 34:50
  And
• 34:50
  all
• 34:50
  of
• 34:50
  that
• 34:50
  will
• 34:50
  be
• 34:51
  in
• 34:51
  the
• 34:51
  show
• 34:51
  notes.
• 34:52
  And
• 34:52
  you
• 34:52
  also
• 34:52
  said
• 34:53
  you
• 34:53
  had
• 34:53
  something
• 34:53
  that
• 34:54
  you
• 34:54
  would
• 34:54
  like
• 34:54
  to
• 34:54
  offer,
• 34:55
  something
• 34:55
  fun.
• 34:57
  Tell
• 34:57
  us
• 34:57
  about
• 34:57
  that.
• 34:58
  Kind
• 34:58
  of
• 34:58
  off
• 34:58
  the
• 34:59
  topic
• 34:59
  of
• 34:59
  horses.
• 35:00
  It's
• 35:00
  not
• 35:00
  about
• 35:00
  the
• 35:01
  topic
• 35:01
  of
• 35:01
  horses,
• 35:02
  but
• 35:02
  it
• 35:02
  does
• 35:02
  go
• 35:02
  along
• 35:02
  with
• 35:03
  coaching
• 35:03
  and
• 35:04
  personal
• 35:04
  development
• 35:05
  and
• 35:05
  professional
• 35:06
  development.
• 35:07
  I
• 35:08
  have
• 35:08
  over
• 35:08
  a
• 35:08
  decade
• 35:09
  of
• 35:09
  real
• 35:09
  estate
• 35:10
  experience,
• 35:11
  and
• 35:11
  I
• 35:11
  love
• 35:12
  podcasting.
• 35:12
  It
• 35:13
  has
• 35:13
  been
• 35:13
  such
• 35:13
  an
• 35:14
  amazing
• 35:14
  way
• 35:14
  for
• 35:14
  me
• 35:15
  to
• 35:15
  connect
• 35:15
  with
• 35:15
  people
• 35:16
  all
• 35:16
  over
• 35:16
  the
• 35:16
  world.
• 35:17
  Uh,
• 35:17
  so
• 35:18
  I
• 35:18
  love
• 35:18
  it,
• 35:18
  being
• 35:18
  both
• 35:19
  as
• 35:19
  a
• 35:19
  guest
• 35:19
  and
• 35:20
  a
• 35:20
  host,
• 35:20
  and
• 35:21
  I
• 35:21
  wanted
• 35:21
  to
• 35:22
  open
• 35:22
  that
• 35:23
  up
• 35:23
  to
• 35:24
  real
• 35:24
  estate
• 35:24
  agents.
• 35:25
  And
• 35:26
  so
• 35:26
  I
• 35:26
  have
• 35:26
  created
• 35:27
  a
• 35:27
  limited
• 35:27
  series
• 35:28
  podcast
• 35:28
  called
• 35:29
  Podcasting
• 35:30
  for
• 35:30
  Real
• 35:30
  Estate
• 35:31
  Pros.
• 35:32
  And
• 35:32
  it's
• 35:33
  21
• 35:34
  really
• 35:34
  short
• 35:34
  episodes
• 35:35
  to
• 35:35
  walk
• 35:35
  you
• 35:36
  through
• 35:36
  the
• 35:36
  process
• 35:36
  of
• 35:37
  creating
• 35:39
  a
• 35:39
  podcast
• 35:40
  and
• 35:40
  using
• 35:40
  it
• 35:41
  as
• 35:41
  a
• 35:41
  marketing
• 35:42
  tool.
• 35:42
  So
• 35:43
  while
• 35:43
  it
• 35:43
  may
• 35:44
  be
• 35:44
  geared
• 35:45
  a
• 35:45
  little
• 35:45
  bit
• 35:46
  towards
• 35:46
  real
• 35:47
  estate
• 35:47
  agents,
• 35:48
  anybody
• 35:48
  in
• 35:48
  the
• 35:48
  entrepreneurial
• 35:49
  space,
• 35:49
  or
• 35:50
  any
• 35:50
  midlife
• 35:51
  person,
• 35:51
  woman,
• 35:52
  whatever,
• 35:52
  if
• 35:52
  you're
• 35:52
  thinking
• 35:53
  about
• 35:53
  creating
• 35:53
  a
• 35:53
  podcast,
• 35:54
  go
• 35:54
  give
• 35:54
  it
• 35:55
  a
• 35:55
  listen.
• 35:55
  It's
• 35:55
  on
• 35:56
  Apple,
• 35:56
  Spotify.
• 35:57
  It's
• 35:57
  called
• 35:57
  Podcasting
• 35:58
  for
• 35:58
  Real
• 35:58
  Estate
• 35:59
  Pros.
• 35:59
  There's
• 36:00
  also
• 36:00
  a
• 36:00
  free.
• 36:01
  It's
• 36:01
  free.
• 36:02
  It's
• 36:02
  a
• 36:02
  downloadable
• 36:03
  resource.
• 36:03
  I've
• 36:04
  got
• 36:04
  a
• 36:04
  workbook
• 36:04
  that
• 36:04
  walks
• 36:05
  you
• 36:05
  through,
• 36:05
  gives
• 36:06
  you
• 36:06
  actionable
• 36:06
  steps
• 36:07
  to
• 36:07
  actually
• 36:08
  create
• 36:08
  a
• 36:08
  podcast,
• 36:09
  and
• 36:09
  21
• 36:09
  episodes.
• 36:10
  So
• 36:10
  it's.
• 36:10
  It's
• 36:11
  a
• 36:11
  pretty
• 36:11
  fun
• 36:11
  little
• 36:11
  adventure.
• 36:12
  Very
• 36:13
  cool.
• 36:13
  And
• 36:13
  I'll
• 36:13
  put
• 36:13
  that.
• 36:14
  Can
• 36:14
  I
• 36:14
  put
• 36:14
  that
• 36:14
  in
• 36:14
  the
• 36:14
  show
• 36:14
  notes,
• 36:15
  too?
• 36:15
  Yeah,
• 36:15
  absolutely.
• 36:16
  Okay,
• 36:16
  perfect.
• 36:16
  Perfect.
• 36:18
  So.
• 36:18
  Well,
• 36:18
  this
• 36:18
  was
• 36:19
  fun.
• 36:19
  So
• 36:19
  I
• 36:19
  really,
• 36:20
  like
• 36:20
  I
• 36:20
  said,
• 36:20
  I
• 36:20
  came
• 36:21
  into
• 36:21
  this
• 36:21
  completely
• 36:22
  curious
• 36:22
  and
• 36:23
  ready
• 36:24
  to
• 36:24
  learn,
• 36:24
  and
• 36:24
  I
• 36:24
  learned
• 36:25
  a
• 36:25
  whole,
• 36:25
  whole
• 36:26
  lot.
• 36:26
  So
• 36:26
  thank
• 36:27
  you.
• 36:28
  You're
• 36:28
  welcome.
• 36:28
  It's
• 36:28
  my
• 36:29
  pleasure.
• 36:29
  I
• 36:29
  love
• 36:29
  talking
• 36:29
  about
• 36:30
  horses
• 36:30
  and
• 36:31
  how
• 36:31
  cool
• 36:32
  they
• 36:32
  are.
• 36:32
  Yeah,
• 36:33
  absolutely.
• 36:34
  And
• 36:34
  if
• 36:34
  you
• 36:34
  could.
• 36:35
  You're
• 36:35
  not
• 36:35
  off
• 36:35
  the
• 36:35
  hook
• 36:35
  yet,
• 36:35
  though.
• 36:36
  So
• 36:36
  if
• 36:36
  you
• 36:37
  could
• 36:37
  give
• 36:37
  the
• 36:37
  audience
• 36:38
  one
• 36:39
  tip,
• 36:39
  trick
• 36:40
  strategy,
• 36:41
  or
• 36:41
  words
• 36:41
  of
• 36:41
  wisdom
• 36:41
  from
• 36:42
  Sue
• 36:42
  Willoughby,
• 36:43
  what
• 36:43
  would
• 36:43
  it
• 36:43
  be?
• 36:44
  Well,
• 36:45
  I
• 36:45
  think
• 36:45
  it's
• 36:45
  kind
• 36:45
  of
• 36:46
  that
• 36:46
  same
• 36:46
  theme
• 36:46
  that
• 36:46
  I've
• 36:47
  been
• 36:47
  talking
• 36:47
  about
• 36:47
  the
• 36:47
  whole
• 36:48
  time
• 36:48
  is
• 36:48
  be
• 36:49
  curious,
• 36:50
  abc.
• 36:51
  Always
• 36:51
  be
• 36:52
  curious.
• 36:52
  Be
• 36:53
  curious
• 36:53
  about
• 36:53
  your
• 36:54
  surroundings.
• 36:55
  Be
• 36:55
  curious
• 36:55
  about
• 36:56
  what
• 36:56
  you're
• 36:57
  feeling.
• 36:57
  Be
• 36:58
  curious
• 36:58
  about
• 36:58
  what
• 36:59
  lights
• 36:59
  you
• 36:59
  up.
• 37:00
  Be
• 37:00
  curious
• 37:00
  about
• 37:01
  what
• 37:01
  makes
• 37:01
  you
• 37:01
  react
• 37:02
  and
• 37:02
  why.
• 37:03
  So,
• 37:04
  abc,
• 37:04
  always
• 37:05
  be
• 37:05
  curious,
• 37:05
  abc.
• 37:06
  I
• 37:06
  love
• 37:06
  that.
• 37:07
  Thank
• 37:07
  you
• 37:07
  so,
• 37:08
  so
• 37:08
  much
• 37:08
  for
• 37:08
  coming.
• 37:09
  Yeah,
• 37:09
  thank
• 37:10
  you.
• 37:10
  And
• 37:11
  for
• 37:11
  everybody
• 37:11
  else
• 37:11
  out
• 37:11
  there
• 37:12
  listening,
• 37:12
  you
• 37:12
  heard
• 37:12
  it.
• 37:12
  Go
• 37:13
  check
• 37:13
  her
• 37:13
  out
• 37:13
  and
• 37:13
  learn
• 37:14
  more
• 37:14
  about
• 37:14
  this,
• 37:15
  because
• 37:15
  it
• 37:15
  is
• 37:15
  absolutely
• 37:16
  fascinating.
• 37:16
  And
• 37:17
  check
• 37:18
  her
• 37:18
  out.
• 37:18
  And
• 37:18
  you
• 37:18
  guys
• 37:19
  have
• 37:19
  a
• 37:19
  blessed
• 37:19
  day,
• 37:20
  and
• 37:20
  I
• 37:20
  will
• 37:20
  see
• 37:20
  you
• 37:20
  back
• 37:21
  next
• 37:21
  week.
• 37:22
  Thank
• 37:22
  you.