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Best of 2026 | How Gratitude Can Quiet Your Anxiety (Plus Reclaimed Beanies & Going to Movies) · Talk About That

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Speaker 1: Hey out there to all of our friends from Banter Town,
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Speaker 1: this is John. As you've probably heard by now after
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Speaker 1: 10 years of Talk About That episodes airing most every week,
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Speaker 1: Johnny and I have hit an especially busy season in
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Speaker 1: both of our lives that has required us to take
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Speaker 1: a little hiatus from weekly episodes. Hey, but fear not.
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Speaker 1: We'd still like to bring you some of the best
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Speaker 1: of Talk About That. These are some of our most
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Speaker 2: Today on Talk About That, John thinks he worries better
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Speaker 2: than you do and finds a magical hat in the
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Speaker 2: strangest place. Meanwhile, I have an idea how to bring
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Speaker 2: folks back to the movie theater and tell you how
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Speaker 2: the U.S. almost got a pinstriped flag. Plus, a conversation
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Speaker 2: about gratitude and actively looking for the good in the
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Speaker 2: world as an antidote to anxiety. Today's episode is not
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Speaker 1: Johnny, it's a new year, but the same quality podcast
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Speaker 1: to talk about that. We're bringing it back for another year.
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Speaker 1: Let's run it back, bro.
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Speaker 2: You just want to, so you're saying we're just going
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Speaker 2: to coast?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do the same over and over again.
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Speaker 2: That needs to be, nobody's ever done that. Nobody's ever
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Speaker 2: said like, hey, new year, hey, same you.
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Speaker 1: Hey, we're doing pretty good.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Planet Fitness would say that to me
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Speaker 2: because I've not canceled, so I'm still paying my fat
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Speaker 2: tax or whatever.
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Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 2: Because it's auto-draft. And I don't have the guts to
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Speaker 2: cancel it because it feels like you're giving up on
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Speaker 2: your life.
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Speaker 1: And they don't have to clean off another bench.
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Speaker 2: That's right. They don't have to do anything except for
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Speaker 2: just like, hey, this guy.
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Speaker 1: You'd be funny if behind the scenes they're all hoping
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Speaker 1: people just pay.
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Speaker 2: That's all they do.
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Speaker 1: They don't actually come.
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Speaker 2: Can you imagine if everybody that had a gym membership
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Speaker 2: came at once? It would be a fire marshal issue.
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Speaker 1: Guys, can you imagine everybody who had a church membership
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Speaker 1: came at once? Come on now.
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Speaker 2: Hey, won't that?
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Speaker 1: Won't it though? Guys, that's our episode.
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Speaker 2: And we'll see you Sunday morning.
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Speaker 1: You know my rule of church membership.
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Speaker 2: What's that?
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Speaker 1: I never preach about it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. You know why?
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Speaker 1: Why? Everyone who's here is not there. Yeah. Everyone who's there.
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Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say, we call it covenant.
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Speaker 2: We don't call it membership. We call it.
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Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying like, why would you, I don't
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Speaker 1: talk about it.
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Speaker 2: We call it a blood oath.
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Speaker 1: I talk about membership. I don't talk about like attendance.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: If you're not here.
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Speaker 2: That's kind of true of church. Yeah. Like, The pastors
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Speaker 2: that get up and yell at everybody for not being
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Speaker 2: whatever faithful enough or being consumer mindset. It's like the
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Speaker 2: people who need to hear that are there. And so
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Speaker 2: what are you doing? You're just beating the people down
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Speaker 2: that got up and came in.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Somebody I was having breakfast with a mutual friend
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Speaker 1: this morning and he was talking about a preacher he
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Speaker 1: heard and he was talking about how he. He stops
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Speaker 1: and asks himself questions in the middle of the message.
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Speaker 1: And he goes, why? It was cracking me up so much.
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Speaker 2: That's the main thing you can do as a preacher.
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Speaker 2: That's really what differentiates a preacher from a TED Talk,
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Speaker 2: is you ask a question, then you go, why? Why
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Speaker 2: do I do that? Right. And then you say, answer yourself.
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Speaker 1: Well, Brother John, but why would you even, like you
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Speaker 1: go into this.
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Speaker 2: You might say to me.
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Speaker 1: But this guy was rebuking the proverbial answer.
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Speaker 2: Oh, right. He sets up his own straw man in
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Speaker 2: the sermon.
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Speaker 1: Right. And then rebuke the people as if they asked it,
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Speaker 1: but he's the one who asked it.
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Speaker 2: And they're in the audience like, I can't believe we
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Speaker 2: said that. Like, wait a minute, we.
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Speaker 1: Didn't say it. We were laughing so hard.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a big one. And again, that's just
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Speaker 2: a style. And you might even say that it comes
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Speaker 2: from the Pauline epistles, because Paul wrote a lot that way.
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Speaker 2: He would write knowing like, I have to presuppose some
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Speaker 2: of these questions that are going to be coming at me.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So I got to answer them in advance. Yeah. You know,
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Speaker 2: you might say to me, Paul.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: You know, whatever. And he's like, look, idiots.
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Speaker 1: I know what you guys say.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he has to shut them down.
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Speaker 1: He writes really strong, but when he's here, he's real wimpy.
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Speaker 1: You know, he was all those kinds of things.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Is that what he said? Wimpy? Is that from
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Speaker 2: the Greek?
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Speaker 1: It's wimpeo in the Greek. Hey, so it's cold. Yes.
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Speaker 1: And I'm in my winter uniform.
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Speaker 2: The fingerless gloves are back. You look like an idiot.
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Speaker 1: I've got, well, I'm working this keyboard over here with
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Speaker 1: no problems.
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Speaker 2: You've got a weird, like, the beanie is pulled down
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Speaker 2: almost over your eyes. Like Mushmouth from the Pat Albert show.
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Speaker 1: The front of my head gets cold, too.
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Speaker 2: That reference data does, I apologize.
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Speaker 1: But this particular beanie, there's a story behind it. Oh, boy.
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Speaker 1: And I do have permission to tell this story.
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Speaker 2: Do you have a beanie story?
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Speaker 1: I have a beanie story.
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Speaker 2: So this is a North Face. Let me have permission
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Speaker 2: to tell it.
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Speaker 1: Well, you'll know why. This is a North Face beanie.
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Speaker 1: And I usually have one every year.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And I usually lose it after winter. Yeah. And I
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Speaker 1: don't have it. And I go back and Amazon.
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Speaker 2: Because you get it somewhere, you set it on the table,
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Speaker 2: whatever it is.
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Speaker 1: I reorder it, you know. So I haven't, I don't
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Speaker 1: have one this year. Uh-huh. And like, literally, we're coming
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Speaker 1: home from Christmas in Crossville, as they call it. Oh,
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Speaker 1: it's beautiful. It's this special on Christmas.
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Speaker 2: It's where you want to be.
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Speaker 1: Beautiful Christmas in Crossbow. And so we stop at the
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Speaker 1: Starbucks and we pull up and there's a beanie laying
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Speaker 1: on the ground.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Like right in the parking lot that someone has left.
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Speaker 1: And my wife, this is what's crazy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: She picks it up.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: That this sounds like something.
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Speaker 2: I would do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: A perfectly good beanie.
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Speaker 1: And so we have like this. this whole conversation i.
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Speaker 2: Mean sure it's riddled with lice but other than that
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Speaker 2: perfectly great it.
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Speaker 1: Had been run over by a car oh man you
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Speaker 1: know the whole deal and like we had this hilarious
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Speaker 1: yeah sort of interaction i'm like who are you like
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Speaker 1: we've traded roles now like if i stopped and did this.
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Speaker 2: We have beanie money now she is that what you
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Speaker 2: would say john to her He'd say, I think we're
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Speaker 2: doing okay.
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Speaker 1: We're doing pretty good.
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Speaker 2: We got beanie money.
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Speaker 1: We got $ 30.
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Speaker 2: And so, like— How many— you' re buying a $ 30 beanie now?
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Speaker 1: This North Face. Now, if you wanted those South Faces
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Speaker 1: or West Faces, those are like $ 20.
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Speaker 2: That's different. But anyway— It's just a North Face, but
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Speaker 2: it's turned 40 degrees.
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Speaker 1: And so she insisted. Like, it's been a whole thing.
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Speaker 1: And I'm wearing it right now.
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Speaker 2: Wait a minute.
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Speaker 1: Hold on. Hey.
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Speaker 2: You're wearing a parking lot beanie?
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Speaker 1: I'm wearing it. Did you launder this beanie? Of course.
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Speaker 1: She took it home. She washed it.
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Speaker 2: Did you check it for?
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Speaker 1: For what? It's been washed and sanitized.
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Speaker 2: But I mean, it might have microscopic little bugs or something.
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Speaker 1: Sanitized. What do you know? And there's like.
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Speaker 2: What do you mean? You dunked it in water?
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Speaker 1: It's like saying you can't use. You think these lice
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Speaker 1: can't swim? This means like you can't use a glass
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Speaker 1: or a plate at a restaurant because someone else used it.
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Speaker 1: They wash it.
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Speaker 2: If that plate was run over in the parking lot.
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Speaker 1: That's a little different. But I just was like, honey,
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Speaker 1: I have to tell the world because this is not,
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Speaker 1: this feels.
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Speaker 2: Do you need some help? Just be honest with me
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Speaker 2: right now. Do I need to loan you some money? Johnny.
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Speaker 2: Are you all in trouble?
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Speaker 1: I just think.
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Speaker 2: Guys, if you'd want to become a patron of the
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Speaker 2: show at this point, this is a good time to
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Speaker 2: bring this up. Where would they go, John?
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Speaker 1: They'd go to talkaboutthatpodcast.com.
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Speaker 2: Send us a message to it. Hello. I talk about
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Speaker 2: that podcast.com. Send John a beanie because evidently he's in trouble.
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Speaker 1: I have a feeling that this beanie, because it has
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Speaker 1: such a storied history now in our family.
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Speaker 2: You won't lose it.
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Speaker 1: I won't lose it. Yeah. This will be the one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Every year. But I love my wife. This was just
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Speaker 1: so funny. And at first I was like, I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to. I got to talk about this in the podcast.
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Speaker 1: She was like, no, don't. Finally, yesterday, she goes, all right,
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Speaker 1: you can do it. It's fine.
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Speaker 2: I don't understand why she would be... You got... Because
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Speaker 2: she pointed it out.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to make fun of her for picking up
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Speaker 1: a parking lot beanie in a Starbucks.
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Speaker 2: I think that's just... She needs to understand that's part
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Speaker 2: of the thing. Like, when your husband has a podcast,
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Speaker 2: you're every now and again going to be fodder for
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Speaker 2: the podcast. And if you say or do something a
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Speaker 2: little bit weird or dumb, it's going to happen. I
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Speaker 2: think I generally tell... Good stories about Laura. I think
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Speaker 2: generally it's insane. I think people think she floats on
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Speaker 2: a cloud and walks on water. No. She won't say anything.
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Speaker 1: She can hop on water.
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Speaker 2: Okay, fine.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't walk.
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Speaker 2: But she also is a garbage person that wants you
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Speaker 2: to wear clothing that she pulled out of a dumpster.
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Speaker 1: I just....
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Speaker 2: No offense, Laura.
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Speaker 1: It was just so funny to me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is odd for a woman to be like, hey,
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Speaker 2: perfectly good beanie. Yeah, I was like. It's like she's
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Speaker 2: going to go find you a porch couch now.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: Look at this couch. Can you believe? She used to laugh.
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Speaker 2: This one cushion looks like it was on fire. But
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Speaker 2: other than that.
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Speaker 1: She said growing up. Her dad, like, you know, I
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Speaker 1: could see my dad doing this, too. Like, if there
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Speaker 1: was a perfectly good, like, strap.
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Speaker 2: That's right. It's a dad move.
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Speaker 1: Like a tie-down strap left on the side of the
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Speaker 1: road when someone stopped. He'll stop and pick it up,
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Speaker 1: you know? Yeah. I was like, you have never been
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Speaker 1: more like your dad than you are right now. And
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Speaker 1: she laughed pretty hard at that.
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Speaker 2: That's what it is. It's not even a manner of feeling.
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Speaker 2: It's an old person thing of like, man, this generation
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Speaker 2: is so wasteful. They walked away from this beanie. I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to lie, though. And it's a found thing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, it actually is lined on the inside. I
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Speaker 1: don't think my old ones were. I think that she
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Speaker 1: knew this was better somehow.
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Speaker 2: It's like that old story. Roy used to tell this story,
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Speaker 2: and I'm sure it's just a street joke, but he
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Speaker 2: would tell it like it happened to them. And it
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Speaker 2: was that his dad, they were in the carnival. Our
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Speaker 2: children's pastor, former children's pastor Roy Stone, was in the
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Speaker 2: carnival with his dad. His dad was one of those, like,
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Speaker 2: Midway Games, Huckster kind of guys. you know? And so,
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Speaker 2: you know, his, uh, sister was the, you know, the
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Speaker 2: snake girl and the, she would put on the gorilla
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Speaker 2: costume and shake the bars. And it was all the crazy,
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Speaker 2: I mean, all the things, all the stories. Yep. And
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Speaker 2: so they would get into these hijinks. They pick up
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Speaker 2: hitchhikers all the time. And Roy told me they picked
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Speaker 2: up a hitchhiker one time and the guy had one shoe.
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Speaker 2: And so they just picked him up, like pick him up, whatever.
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Speaker 2: And they get about five miles down the road. And
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Speaker 2: Roy said his dad finally couldn't take it anymore. And
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Speaker 2: he goes, I'm sorry. I got to ask. Did you
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Speaker 2: lose your shoe? And the guy goes, nope, found one.
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Speaker 2: That's what happened. You're the beanie guy. You're like, wait
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Speaker 2: till I tell you about this magic beanie.
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Speaker 1: It's the magic beanie.
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Speaker 2: It is. It's beautiful. It's really a great story. I
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Speaker 2: like how you called it the one a few minutes ago.
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Speaker 2: You were like, no, this beanie may be the one.
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Speaker 2: Like it's the chosen one. The chosen hat.
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Speaker 1: For bald people, that's a thing.
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Speaker 2: That's true. Okay.
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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, my head's cold all the time.
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Speaker 2: Oh, so you don't ever develop like a resistance to,
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Speaker 2: I figured it, it just feels cold all the time.
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Speaker 2: All the time. Yeah. Man, that's a bummer.
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Speaker 1: Like at night, like if I sit in the bed,
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Speaker 1: like I have to put a hoodie on. Yeah. In
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Speaker 1: the summer, like all the time.
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Speaker 2: Right. So. I just, I'm so glad I have a
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Speaker 2: head of lustrous, lustrous hair.
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Speaker 1: It's really not fair. It's really not fair because I
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Speaker 1: have a lot of friends with, with just great hair. Right.
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Speaker 2: I understand.
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Speaker 1: What did I do wrong? You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I can't write books. No. No.
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Speaker 1: You probably could, actually. You're probably better at it.
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Speaker 2: Well, just a few keywords into chat.
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Speaker 1: Now that you have AI, yeah.
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Speaker 2: I know what's going on.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to tell the world because I don't
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Speaker 1: want them to go try.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think the world could do my job now.
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Speaker 2: Oh, no.
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Speaker 1: But I'm not sure. I mean, they won't know what
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Speaker 1: they're missing. It'll just sound okay. Would it be as good? Probably.
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Speaker 2: You know what would be good, John?
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Speaker 1: What's that?
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Speaker 2: A word. from a few of our fine sponsors. We've
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Speaker 2: got to keep these lights on, so let's take a break.
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Speaker 1: And we're back, Joey.
12:36
Speaker 2: You told me that you saw the new Wicked movie.
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Speaker 1: I did.
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Speaker 2: And so good luck making heaven. But I had a
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Speaker 2: thought today about, because I thought about today, because Curry
12:46
Speaker 2: and I are kind of, we have to leave for
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Speaker 2: the road tomorrow. We've been on and off the road,
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Speaker 2: and it's been kind of a crazy season. Which is great,
12:52
Speaker 2: and I'm very grateful for it. But also, when we're home,
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Speaker 2: we're home together now because Curry travels with me. So
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Speaker 2: today would be a day where we'll finish the podcast
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Speaker 2: and I'll have like seven or eight hours to go
13:03
Speaker 2: catch up on things, get packed. But also, normally we
13:05
Speaker 2: would go to the movies, but I've not been to
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Speaker 2: the movies in so long because there's not been any
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Speaker 2: great things. I know Wicked's out now. I want to
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Speaker 2: go see it, but Curry saw it without me, so
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Speaker 2: never mind. But I will say this. I had a
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Speaker 2: thought today. I was like, why don't we go to
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Speaker 2: the movies anymore? And people blame like But I think
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Speaker 2: there's a shift in culture. People blame the pandemic because
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Speaker 2: that's when it really officially got killed off, right? Because
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Speaker 2: people were more homebound and streaming just really took over,
13:28
Speaker 2: all that. And people do like the comfort of their
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Speaker 2: own living rooms, and I'll give you that. But I
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Speaker 2: think the shift is because of attention spans is the
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Speaker 2: main thing. Attention spans and we're spoiled because we can
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Speaker 2: just pause it and bathroom breaks. So I think what's
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Speaker 2: happening is, because we've made that joke before how You
13:48
Speaker 2: don't want to invest in a three-hour Kevin Costner epic
13:50
Speaker 2: movie about the Old West, but you'll watch like 12
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Speaker 2: episodes in a row of The Office. You'll sit in
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Speaker 2: your room, watch The Office, and you just go, and
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Speaker 2: you look up and you go, it's been four hours.
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Speaker 2: We could have watched Wyatt Earp. So what I think
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Speaker 2: needs to happen is television needs to become, or movies
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Speaker 2: need to become more episodic. So when you go to
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Speaker 2: the movie, you already know that it's going to be
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Speaker 2: broken up into five parts with a bathroom break in
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Speaker 2: each part. Huh. And so you go, hey, that was
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Speaker 2: part one of the movie. And you go to the bathroom.
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Speaker 1: Do you have a commercial?
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Speaker 2: I don't know. You have the option, I guess, to
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Speaker 2: put a commercial there, but knowing that people are going
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Speaker 2: to go into the lobby.
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Speaker 1: Interesting.
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Speaker 2: And you would sell more snacks. Because now they know
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Speaker 2: they're not missing anything.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Because we talked about building in some kind of technology
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Speaker 2: where they can carry their phone and the movie keeps streaming.
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Speaker 1: I think I called that the live streaming.
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Speaker 2: Live streaming.
14:41
Speaker 1: While you're, yeah.
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Speaker 2: But I like the idea of, instead of, in other words-
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Speaker 2: We could just get mad at it like we talked
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Speaker 2: about preachers earlier. They get mad at consumer culture and say, oh,
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Speaker 2: these people don't even care about the Lord anymore. It's like, no,
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Speaker 2: it's just that culture shifts and whatever. And you can
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Speaker 2: either go just get mad at everybody and be like,
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Speaker 2: people don't even love the Lord anymore. They won't come
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Speaker 2: to a Sunday night service. We're going to keep doing it.
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Speaker 2: Or you can just be like, we're going to do
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Speaker 2: two Sunday mornings. We're going to do our thing. We're
15:06
Speaker 2: going to try to catch people on Saturday night. We're
15:08
Speaker 2: going to widen the net. We're going to figure out
15:09
Speaker 2: how to meet people where they are. Okay, you can
15:12
Speaker 2: do that.
15:13
Speaker 1: Right, compromise. Right.
15:15
Speaker 2: So– What I think needs to happen with movies is
15:17
Speaker 2: instead of being like, God, people's attention spans. They don't
15:19
Speaker 2: want to sit down for a two-hour movie anymore. Just
15:22
Speaker 2: forget them. Like, no. Let's figure out what do they
15:25
Speaker 2: want to do. Now, it could go too far where
15:27
Speaker 2: you're just like, it's just a TikTok scroll of eight-second movies.
15:30
Speaker 1: You're literally just going to the movies to do what
15:32
Speaker 1: you could do at home. That's the thing. If you
15:34
Speaker 1: do it too much. But the screen's bigger regardless.
15:37
Speaker 2: You have to tell me that I can't get this
15:39
Speaker 2: on Netflix in a month. Like it's never coming to Netflix.
15:44
Speaker 2: So if you don't go see the new Mark Wahlberg, whatever. Yeah.
15:47
Speaker 2: That's cut into five pieces.
15:49
Speaker 1: Well, that's the crazy like with Wicked. It's in the
15:51
Speaker 1: theater and you can also get it on Amazon. Right.
15:53
Speaker 2: They knew they knew like this is the audience and
15:55
Speaker 2: we're going to have to do this. Plus, people want
15:57
Speaker 2: to sing along at home. That's part of it with Wicked.
15:59
Speaker 2: It's a little bit different is.
16:00
Speaker 1: Yeah.
16:00
Speaker 2: People go to the movies and they can't be their
16:04
Speaker 2: full selves because they've memorized all these songs now and
16:08
Speaker 2: they want to just belt them out. And people have
16:10
Speaker 2: to put flyers up. I've seen these theaters. We walked
16:12
Speaker 2: by a theater the other day and it had signs.
16:13
Speaker 2: We know you love Wicked. We love that you love Wicked.
16:17
Speaker 2: Please don't sing out in the movie. And we want
16:20
Speaker 2: other people to enjoy this. And you're like, wow, they
16:22
Speaker 2: wrote that sign for a reason. What did I go to?
16:24
Speaker 2: I don't know what I went to. I think you
16:26
Speaker 2: were supposed to sing along, possibly.
16:28
Speaker 1: We went to the Taylor Swift documentary that was in
16:30
Speaker 1: the theaters.
16:31
Speaker 2: Oh, it was a sing-along kind of thing with a
16:32
Speaker 2: bouncing ball?
16:33
Speaker 1: But I remember it was only us and two other
16:35
Speaker 1: people because it had been out a long time. in
16:37
Speaker 1: the whole theater.
16:38
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift is struggling.
16:39
Speaker 1: And nobody, yeah, she's really, and nobody else, nobody was singing.
16:43
Speaker 1: And it was interesting to me. I think that they intended,
16:46
Speaker 1: because there was like videos online, a bunch of people,
16:48
Speaker 1: the whole theater singing the song, as if they're at
16:49
Speaker 1: the concert. But that was not our theater experience. I mean,
16:54
Speaker 1: I still sing really, really loud.
16:55
Speaker 2: It's weird because when you go to the movies, I
16:58
Speaker 2: used to like going, knowing there'd be a theater full
17:00
Speaker 2: of people. And now when I go, I hope that
17:03
Speaker 2: it's empty.
17:03
Speaker 1: Yeah.
17:04
Speaker 2: Because I want the experience of being in my own
17:07
Speaker 2: little man cave but I want to experience the big
17:10
Speaker 2: screen movie experience but really the movie experience includes other
17:12
Speaker 2: people it's almost like again it's a broader cultural thing
17:16
Speaker 2: about collectivism versus individualism like we don't like experiencing things
17:21
Speaker 2: as a group necessarily anymore now I will say live
17:23
Speaker 2: music is pretty great with a big group and it
17:25
Speaker 2: is different like if I do a comedy show and
17:28
Speaker 2: there's it seats 150 people and there's 30 people there
17:32
Speaker 2: it's a bummer in a way that a movie would
17:35
Speaker 2: not be a bummer right Because nothing draws a crowd
17:38
Speaker 2: like a crowd, and people look around, and they see
17:40
Speaker 2: only 30 people, and they go, well, is this going
17:42
Speaker 2: to be any good?
17:43
Speaker 1: Yeah.
17:43
Speaker 2: Versus if you go to a movie, and you go, well, look,
17:45
Speaker 2: the movie's going to be what it is.
17:46
Speaker 1: Yeah.
17:47
Speaker 2: You know.
17:48
Speaker 1: Right, because you're experiencing it individually.
17:50
Speaker 2: But I did a show in Lowell, Arkansas, and the
17:53
Speaker 2: last two shows, Friday and Saturday, were both sold out,
17:55
Speaker 2: and it was a lot of fun. And they were
17:57
Speaker 2: packed in there, and there's an energy that when you
18:00
Speaker 2: walk out, it just feels like a party in a
18:02
Speaker 2: different way for comedy. So live entertainment, you definitely... It's
18:06
Speaker 2: still there. It's happening.
18:09
Speaker 1: It is. It is.
18:10
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah.
18:12
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of what other.
18:13
Speaker 2: But some things you want to go and you go,
18:15
Speaker 2: I hope nobody else is.
18:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
18:17
Speaker 2: I hope when we go to this restaurant, it's easy
18:19
Speaker 2: to get a table and I hope it's empty. And
18:21
Speaker 2: I hope the food's great, like a great restaurant would
18:23
Speaker 2: be that would be full. Right. But I hope we
18:25
Speaker 2: caught them on a night where it's empty.
18:28
Speaker 1: I think in the movies, the one thing I don't want,
18:29
Speaker 1: I can handle more people. I just don't want to
18:31
Speaker 1: have to stand up when they have to go to
18:32
Speaker 1: the bathroom.
18:34
Speaker 2: Wait a minute. You want to, oh, okay.
18:36
Speaker 1: To let him out of the aisle.
18:37
Speaker 2: I thought you meant you don't want to stand up
18:38
Speaker 2: when you have to go. I was like, wait a minute, John.
18:41
Speaker 2: I just want to sit there and go in my
18:43
Speaker 2: seat and then just like, that just be part of
18:46
Speaker 2: the theater experience.
18:46
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Why do they keep kicking me out?
18:48
Speaker 2: What I want is a theater full of toilets. And
18:51
Speaker 2: if we could somehow, and I think that's where it's headed, John.
18:54
Speaker 1: I think it is, Johnny.
18:55
Speaker 2: That's going to be, that's the grossest theater I've ever
18:58
Speaker 2: heard of. That's weird.
19:02
Speaker 1: Hey, it's about that time, Josh.
19:02
Speaker 2: Oh, is it?
19:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little segment. It's my quote of the week.
19:05
Speaker 1: We call it, They Talked About That. I don't speak French.
19:23
Speaker 2: Okay.
19:24
Speaker 1: But I'm assuming this is Michelle de Montague.
19:28
Speaker 2: Montague? Montague?
19:29
Speaker 1: No, it's M-O-N-T-A-I-G-N-E.
19:33
Speaker 2: Oh, Montaigne.
19:34
Speaker 1: Montaigne, possibly.
19:36
Speaker 2: Yeah.
19:37
Speaker 1: A 1580 would be when he was born, yeah. This
19:40
Speaker 1: is great. This is great for New Year's, I think.
19:42
Speaker 1: He who fears he shall suffer already suffers what he fears.
19:48
Speaker 2: That's good.
19:48
Speaker 1: Yeah.
19:49
Speaker 2: And there's a similar quote like that from Corrie ten
19:52
Speaker 2: Boom that's something about like worry doesn't rob. tomorrow of
19:58
Speaker 2: its sorrow it robs today of its strength yeah so
20:02
Speaker 2: she totally ripped off this montaigne.
20:03
Speaker 1: Guy i'm not even sure that's really hers either okay
20:06
Speaker 1: i feel like that i have that from earlier um.
20:11
Speaker 2: But yeah it's a similar thought it's a it's good
20:13
Speaker 2: it's the idea of like yeah you we do and
20:17
Speaker 2: it's interesting that something the 15 a's would be writing
20:19
Speaker 2: about what essentially is anxiety because we think of i
20:23
Speaker 2: think this is the most anxious generation that we've ever
20:26
Speaker 2: had in america for sure. And social media, the very
20:32
Speaker 2: online nature, the immediacy, the access to everyone's opinions and
20:39
Speaker 2: problems that we didn't. But it's always interesting to think,
20:42
Speaker 2: because I guess I idealize the distant past as some
20:47
Speaker 2: culture that like oh well they had stuff and they
20:50
Speaker 2: had you know they had the dark ages and they
20:52
Speaker 2: had scarlet fever right right but it was like a
20:56
Speaker 2: very specific right common thing.
21:00
Speaker 1: We had human right i mean and you can i
21:02
Speaker 1: think that's one thing i want to read history that
21:04
Speaker 1: really helps because that there is a modern bias yeah
21:07
Speaker 1: that can get reversed like you said into a a
21:12
Speaker 1: historical bias And that you believe everything that we make
21:15
Speaker 1: today is better, but you believe people are better or
21:18
Speaker 1: didn't struggle with what we struggled with in the past.
21:20
Speaker 1: That's sort of the make whatever this is like it
21:23
Speaker 1: used to be again kind of idea.
21:25
Speaker 2: I wonder why we do that. There's got to be
21:27
Speaker 2: something that's self-protective into why we do that.
21:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's because we just take kids on
21:33
Speaker 1: youth group trips and all these difficult things would happen.
21:38
Speaker 1: And just give it about six weeks afterwards and their
21:40
Speaker 1: memories are only of the good things generally. Yeah. It's,
21:44
Speaker 1: you know, they are.
21:46
Speaker 2: Or even the bad thing is now this adventure that
21:48
Speaker 2: we had.
21:48
Speaker 1: Right.
21:48
Speaker 2: We got a flat and I couldn't believe so and
21:50
Speaker 2: so didn't get hit by the passing car.
21:52
Speaker 1: But sometimes the kids attitudes were awful when it was happening. Yeah,
21:55
Speaker 1: for sure. And I think I see that as a dad.
21:57
Speaker 1: So I do think some people, they only remember the negative.
22:00
Speaker 2: Right.
22:00
Speaker 1: But most of us, as life gets ahead, I think
22:02
Speaker 1: maybe it's some sort of part of our chemistry.
22:04
Speaker 2: Yeah.
22:05
Speaker 1: Our brain says, I'm only going to store here. Unless
22:08
Speaker 1: it's trauma or whatever. But if it's just like an experience,
22:11
Speaker 1: I'm going to store what was most positive.
22:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just weird, though, like to go through. I
22:15
Speaker 2: think it can be good. It's like you said, it's self-protective.
22:18
Speaker 2: And that's a good thing where we go like, I'm
22:20
Speaker 2: going to remember this fondly. Even the bad stuff, even
22:24
Speaker 2: being broken. Like people, I see comedians all the time.
22:26
Speaker 2: They talk about how broke we were as kids. My
22:28
Speaker 2: dad didn't blah, blah, blah. And there's funny anecdotes and
22:31
Speaker 2: people can relate to it. But nobody wants to be
22:34
Speaker 2: poor as a kid.
22:35
Speaker 1: Right.
22:35
Speaker 2: There's some protective thing that your brain does that goes, yeah,
22:39
Speaker 2: we didn't have much, but with the stuff we did have,
22:42
Speaker 2: we appreciated it or we're better than those rich people
22:44
Speaker 2: that are spoiled and they don't even appreciate the stuff
22:46
Speaker 2: they have or whatever it is. You're kind of making
22:48
Speaker 2: yourself superior in a way by doing that. There's not,
22:52
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with it, but
22:53
Speaker 2: it is fascinating to me why we do it and
22:56
Speaker 2: how your brain works. Like the, the idealized mythical past
23:01
Speaker 2: thing that we do.
23:03
Speaker 1: It's interesting because when you said that, it's another quote.
23:07
Speaker 1: Tim Keller was quoting Proust when he said, he's talking
23:10
Speaker 1: about wisdom, but he says, it can only be discovered, quote,
23:13
Speaker 1: after a journey through the wilderness which no one can
23:16
Speaker 1: make for us and which no one can spare us.
23:19
Speaker 1: So I do think the reason we look back is
23:21
Speaker 1: people see what's good in it now because they've been
23:23
Speaker 1: through the wilderness and they're on the other side. So
23:26
Speaker 1: when a person who grew up in poverty now has enough,
23:29
Speaker 1: the poverty no longer has control over them. They don't
23:32
Speaker 1: have to be afraid of it anymore anymore. So now
23:34
Speaker 1: they can look at it and go, oh, one, there's
23:36
Speaker 1: the benefit of grit and coming through and I survived,
23:41
Speaker 1: that you can now see what's positive about it, removing
23:44
Speaker 1: the negative. And I think worry is one of those,
23:46
Speaker 1: it is a universal thing, there's no doubt. Because if
23:49
Speaker 1: you think about how much scripture says, you know, it
23:52
Speaker 1: talks in the ancient times about not being anxious for anything, right?
23:55
Speaker 1: How many times, I just talked about this a lot
23:57
Speaker 1: during Advent, every time there was an angelic messenger to someone,
24:02
Speaker 1: the first words out of out of his mouth is
24:06
Speaker 1: don't be afraid.
24:07
Speaker 2: Right.
24:08
Speaker 1: So there's a fear thing that, that's constant. Um, but
24:12
Speaker 1: I think this idea that when I am worrying about something,
24:15
Speaker 1: I am already, I mean, it's, this is maybe the
24:18
Speaker 1: most profound way I've heard it said in a long time.
24:20
Speaker 1: I'm already suffering from what I fear. Like I'm, I'm
24:23
Speaker 1: already suffering that thing and it hasn't happened in advance. Yeah.
24:27
Speaker 1: I'm a perennial worrier. Like I'm, I'm, I'm built, I'm
24:31
Speaker 1: Enneagram six, right? So anxiety and anxiousness is kind of
24:34
Speaker 1: a thing.
24:36
Speaker 2: I think it's one thing to be a perennial worrier
24:38
Speaker 2: like we are. It's another thing to, again, the defense
24:41
Speaker 2: of the worry is I am doing it better than
24:45
Speaker 2: the people who aren't worried. If you're not worried, what's
24:49
Speaker 2: wrong with you? That's the thing that we think that
24:52
Speaker 2: other people don't necessarily think is like, aren't you guys
24:55
Speaker 2: seeing that the world's on fire?
24:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
24:58
Speaker 2: And so it's like, it's almost like an arrogance built
25:00
Speaker 2: into the word.
25:00
Speaker 1: So funny enough, my wife the other day said something.
25:04
Speaker 1: Parenthood makes us both like the other more. It's really crazy. Yeah.
25:08
Speaker 1: She's naturally more, she feels first, you know, she's in
25:12
Speaker 1: a heart triad. I'm in a, in a mind triad.
25:15
Speaker 2: And, um, these are, these are cults, John.
25:19
Speaker 1: Although as a, as a dad, I was like, I
25:22
Speaker 1: feel kind of what she feels like. I feel this pain.
25:27
Speaker 1: If my kid for, for my kid, it's not intellectual.
25:30
Speaker 1: Like I feel this thing and I'm like, this must
25:32
Speaker 1: be what it feels like to feel like you sometimes.
25:34
Speaker 1: And she thinks through a lot of the worries that
25:38
Speaker 1: she wouldn't normally do. But again, your kid seems to
25:40
Speaker 1: bring out these things. The other day, she said something
25:42
Speaker 1: the other day and I was like, man, you're just like,
25:45
Speaker 1: you're being an amateur right now with your forecasting of disaster.
25:48
Speaker 1: Cause what she forecasted was like some extreme disaster. I
25:51
Speaker 1: was like, okay, first of all, leave the worrying to
25:54
Speaker 1: the professionals. Those of us who think all the time
25:57
Speaker 1: about what's going to go wrong, we would never go
25:59
Speaker 1: that far. Cause that's not even, that's not even reasonable, logical, rational.
26:04
Speaker 1: Like we think within a rational place and we, but
26:06
Speaker 1: I was laughing because I was, I was saying, I
26:08
Speaker 1: worry better than you. I know that I do. And
26:11
Speaker 1: you feel better than I do. I worry better than
26:12
Speaker 1: you do, but it's, it's just a.
26:15
Speaker 2: She's better at picking out hats. I will give her that.
26:19
Speaker 1: I want, I see this. If one thing I learned
26:22
Speaker 1: from 12 steps here, and I know if someone's doing
26:24
Speaker 1: the bingo card, I've hit a lot of them so far,
26:26
Speaker 1: Enneagram and 12 steps, but something that really, really got
26:30
Speaker 1: me was is sobriety happens 24 hours at a time.
26:33
Speaker 1: And in sobriety, one of the things I am in
26:36
Speaker 1: recovery from is anxiousness and fear and worry. And the
26:41
Speaker 1: goal would be, You're not going to spend, like, there
26:45
Speaker 1: was another quote we read last year, I think. I
26:47
Speaker 1: didn't use it this year, about a guy saying, I
26:48
Speaker 1: really don't live according to a year-long resolution, but more
26:53
Speaker 1: just a daily resolution. Like, I make resolutions for today,
26:55
Speaker 1: not for the year.
26:56
Speaker 2: Yeah.
26:57
Speaker 1: Because you're not going to do it. Like, it's not
26:59
Speaker 1: going to work.
26:59
Speaker 2: I want to do daily resolutions, but I want it
27:01
Speaker 2: to be every day to lose 50 pounds. I want,
27:06
Speaker 2: within a week, I won't be here, John.
27:07
Speaker 1: Well, again, daily resolutions put on top of each other, right?
27:10
Speaker 1: Make a long-term goal. So that idea of I would
27:15
Speaker 1: love to be sober from worry today so that I
27:19
Speaker 1: don't suffer what I fear. And I think, Johnny, the
27:22
Speaker 1: easiest way, because just tell someone, don't worry. It's offensive.
27:28
Speaker 1: It's offensive when I'm really in my headspace.
27:30
Speaker 2: Shout out to Bobby McFerrin. Turns out John's super offended
27:34
Speaker 2: by you. How could you just walk in here and
27:37
Speaker 2: whistle and say, don't worry, comma, be happy.
27:41
Speaker 1: Jeez, I'm sick of it.
27:42
Speaker 2: Get out of here. Get some instruments, you loser. Mouth
27:46
Speaker 2: noise making.
27:47
Speaker 1: Okay. I think that this telling someone doesn't do it.
27:51
Speaker 1: You have to do something. You can't just not do something.
27:53
Speaker 2: What's the proactive step?
27:54
Speaker 1: I think it's gratitude. Okay. I think if you can
27:57
Speaker 1: find what it is in your life that's already good,
28:01
Speaker 1: that isn't So if humanity has a suffering to use,
28:06
Speaker 1: you know, this quote, I mean, humanity also has beauty.
28:11
Speaker 1: I think it was Keller who said in that same book,
28:13
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, look, the world is both
28:15
Speaker 1: beautiful and terrible. And like when you when you understand
28:18
Speaker 1: that you live in wisdom, when you don't just expect
28:21
Speaker 1: it to only be terrible or expect it to only
28:23
Speaker 1: be beautiful, but be OK with the tension of the two. Right.
28:26
Speaker 1: That you're living in between. But you have to find
28:29
Speaker 1: what is beautiful. And that's what to be grateful for.
28:31
Speaker 1: So gratitude being this action you take to really pay
28:35
Speaker 1: attention and not just count your blessings. I mean, it's
28:37
Speaker 1: okay if that's the word you want to use for it.
28:39
Speaker 1: But those of us who grew up in the faith,
28:42
Speaker 1: that kind of just rings hollow like a platitude. I'm
28:45
Speaker 1: not just counting. I want to be intentional about what
28:48
Speaker 1: makes my life full and complete today that God has
28:52
Speaker 1: given in my relationship with him and then the blessings
28:55
Speaker 1: that flow down from it to others. And I think
28:57
Speaker 1: being grateful for that will hopefully replace worry. Because remember
29:00
Speaker 1: when Jesus said, this seems dark, when he cast out
29:03
Speaker 1: a demon one time, he said, when this happens, it's
29:07
Speaker 1: like that demon goes to the wilderness. And then it's
29:09
Speaker 1: like this home, this mind, this person is like swept
29:13
Speaker 1: and clean. But if something doesn't come and occupy, then
29:17
Speaker 1: that will come back and bring worse things with it.
29:19
Speaker 1: So we're not made to be empty. We're made to
29:21
Speaker 1: be occupied by something, right? So I think that's the
29:24
Speaker 1: same thing. You can't just get rid of worry. Something
29:26
Speaker 1: else has to sit in its seat.
29:28
Speaker 2: To push it out with gratitude.
29:29
Speaker 1: Yeah.
29:30
Speaker 2: You have to give worry the eviction notice by being
29:33
Speaker 2: thankful and grateful. Right.
29:34
Speaker 1: And let something else live there. So when worry comes back,
29:37
Speaker 1: there's no room for it.
29:38
Speaker 2: I think we solved it.
29:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, guys. I'm not going to worry
29:40
Speaker 1: at all this year.
29:43
Speaker 2: I'm going to go ahead and.
29:45
Speaker 1: John, I'm already worried about that.
29:46
Speaker 2: I'm worried about your claims. Void in Tennessee. There you go. No,
29:52
Speaker 2: it's a good one, though. I don't really do resolutions anymore,
29:56
Speaker 2: but if there's one, I do think I really have
29:58
Speaker 2: tried in my career when I started this, because we
30:04
Speaker 2: did the band thing, and it felt like we were
30:06
Speaker 2: so wrapped up in making it or whatever that meant
30:09
Speaker 2: that we would just live in these weird highs and lows,
30:11
Speaker 2: a roller coaster of life. Somebody's going to discover us
30:14
Speaker 2: and all that. And when I started doing comedy, it
30:16
Speaker 2: felt like I just discovered this weird gift that I
30:19
Speaker 2: did not expect at all and I was always so
30:22
Speaker 2: surprised by it and I wanted to maintain that surprise
30:27
Speaker 2: and not have an expectation of what it could be
30:30
Speaker 2: and so I made up my mind I would always
30:31
Speaker 2: kind of like stop and appreciate these moments that I
30:34
Speaker 2: was given because they're just total gifts along the way
30:37
Speaker 2: and not expect everything to be this like, this will
30:40
Speaker 2: mean I'm a real boy now, if I can have
30:43
Speaker 2: this moment. And I just really, I think I've kept
30:46
Speaker 2: that promise for the most part. That's not to say
30:48
Speaker 2: I've never been envious of another comedian, or I've never
30:52
Speaker 2: wanted something I didn't get or been mad. That has happened.
30:54
Speaker 2: But generally, compared to my music stuff, it's been a
30:59
Speaker 2: lot different. My attitude has been one of more gratitude
31:03
Speaker 2: and more like, Can you believe this happened? Yeah. Even
31:06
Speaker 2: if it's like a weekend of shows at the Chuckle
31:09
Speaker 2: Hut in Boise, you're just still like, yeah, but I
31:12
Speaker 2: got to go do that. I wasn't, you know, somewhere
31:15
Speaker 2: else in a cubicle doing a job that I didn't want.
31:18
Speaker 1: When some of that, like I said, comes with adulthood,
31:20
Speaker 1: I think, and maturity, it doesn't have to. You can
31:23
Speaker 1: get chronologically older and not more mature emotionally. That's very possible.
31:27
Speaker 1: But someone who's worked at Home Depot. Right.
31:30
Speaker 2: Right.
31:31
Speaker 1: You go, okay, I know. That's a great job. Look
31:34
Speaker 1: what I get to do. How many people— and we talk
31:36
Speaker 1: about that all the time. You and I get to
31:37
Speaker 1: use— we somehow, up to this point, it may not always
31:40
Speaker 1: be this way. Right. We get to use our brains. Yeah. Right?
31:45
Speaker 2: In as much as they are.
31:46
Speaker 1: Jokes on you guys.
31:48
Speaker 2: People, though they may be.
31:49
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, like— and that is, I think, to
31:52
Speaker 1: keep— my dad worked three jobs. He was a pastor. Same
31:55
Speaker 1: kind of thing. I never thought that would be my
31:58
Speaker 1: main job.
31:59
Speaker 2: Yeah.
32:00
Speaker 1: I'm still surprised to this day.
32:01
Speaker 2: And it's not that I don't feel like I work
32:03
Speaker 2: hard or don't deserve, earn, deserve what I got. It's
32:05
Speaker 2: not that it's who deserves anything, but it's that thing
32:08
Speaker 2: of like, there is a weird sense of it. Like
32:11
Speaker 2: when I go out and I tell the first joke
32:14
Speaker 2: to a crowd and if it gets a laugh, it's
32:19
Speaker 2: not like I feel surprised, but I immediately feel relieved. Yeah. Like, okay,
32:24
Speaker 2: if they laughed at that, they'll probably laugh at this
32:26
Speaker 2: next thing. And then you just are off to the races.
32:28
Speaker 2: But like, that feeling never really went away for me.
32:31
Speaker 2: I still have that same feeling. So that's such a,
32:35
Speaker 2: a gift. And I try to stay grateful for it. And, uh,
32:38
Speaker 2: but again, I don't know. It's, I think that's the
32:40
Speaker 2: closest thing to a resolution that I would say I
32:42
Speaker 2: make is like, I want to really appreciate this time,
32:45
Speaker 2: especially right now. Curry's traveling with me and that's been
32:47
Speaker 2: so cool. And I know that it won't be this
32:50
Speaker 2: way forever. It's a season that we're in. And so, um,
32:54
Speaker 2: I really am. That's pretty cool that I don't have
32:57
Speaker 2: to be like, Hey, sorry, I'll see you. in four days,
33:00
Speaker 2: like I had been doing for years, you know, where
33:02
Speaker 2: I'll just, I'm gone. And then it's just like, I
33:04
Speaker 2: have to come home and tell her like, what did
33:06
Speaker 2: you do? And she'll tell me about her job. And
33:07
Speaker 2: I'll be like, oh, I did this. And they're totally like,
33:09
Speaker 2: you have to kind of catch up. It's just a weird,
33:12
Speaker 2: we don't really have to do that now. We're in
33:13
Speaker 2: this season right now where we're just, we're going to Shreveport,
33:17
Speaker 2: but we're going together. So Shreveport may not be whatever,
33:20
Speaker 2: but we're going to be together in the airport in Shreveport.
33:23
Speaker 1: The airport in Shreveport. Come on now.
33:26
Speaker 2: That's of course where they ship all the Shreves. I
33:28
Speaker 2: don't know if you knew. anything about Shreveport, but every
33:31
Speaker 2: day they come running down to the Shreve docks.
33:34
Speaker 1: I'm telling you.
33:34
Speaker 2: And it is, the Shreve boats are coming in and
33:37
Speaker 2: they do a dance. It's amazing. Really, honestly. Yeah.
33:42
Speaker 1: I think I said that Sunday, like, hey, most important
33:44
Speaker 1: thing right now I'm feeling is know yourself and know
33:46
Speaker 1: your season.
33:47
Speaker 2: Yeah.
33:47
Speaker 1: If you expect the self you are in a different
33:50
Speaker 1: season to experience everything as you did, you'll be constantly
33:54
Speaker 1: disappointed or putting something else on like, Like, hey, so
33:59
Speaker 1: if you can know yourself and know your season, then
34:01
Speaker 1: you can actually enjoy life. But if not, you'll always
34:03
Speaker 1: be comparing to a season you think you should be
34:05
Speaker 1: or one that you were in and you won't know yourself.
34:07
Speaker 1: So I love that you're enjoying that with your wife.
34:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a great advice. Don't wait to
34:12
Speaker 2: be like you can't. There is a there is a
34:15
Speaker 2: happiness you can just choose. There really is. Look on
34:18
Speaker 2: look on something that is good. I always feel a
34:21
Speaker 2: little bit weird about it because that part of me goes, well,
34:24
Speaker 2: all I'm doing is looking away from the bad things
34:26
Speaker 2: that are happening. There's wildfires in LA right now. So
34:29
Speaker 2: if I pretend to focus on the good thing, aren't
34:31
Speaker 2: I ignoring the wildfires? There's that part of me that
34:34
Speaker 2: always is going to do that.
34:35
Speaker 1: That's the assumption though. The assumption there is that the
34:37
Speaker 1: negative things are more true than the positive. I found
34:40
Speaker 1: that assumption in life and in people. And that's hit
34:43
Speaker 1: me in the last year. We act as if what's
34:46
Speaker 1: negative because it it hits us harder. Right.
34:49
Speaker 2: It feels more powerful.
34:50
Speaker 1: It feels more powerful or more true, but it's not,
34:53
Speaker 1: it might, it might affect your life more, but it's
34:55
Speaker 1: not more true.
34:56
Speaker 2: Yeah.
34:56
Speaker 1: To see what's real and true. That's positive is not
34:59
Speaker 1: more real and true than what's negative.
35:01
Speaker 2: I think we fixed it. We really did.
35:03
Speaker 1: We did a lot.
35:03
Speaker 2: This is great. Let's, uh, let's go back and do
35:06
Speaker 2: my segment. Johnny's old jokes. We call it joke about that. Uh, John,
35:16
Speaker 2: I got a couple, um, street jokes that I found. Again,
35:20
Speaker 2: I didn't write these. I don't know why I need
35:22
Speaker 2: to preface this.
35:23
Speaker 1: Please don't hold Johnny responsible.
35:25
Speaker 2: These guys are, three guys are newbies in Metro Police
35:28
Speaker 2: and they're passing their first test. Their commander in chief
35:31
Speaker 2: shows a pic of a scumbag and says the following,
35:33
Speaker 2: is there any feature in this guy's face if you
35:34
Speaker 2: were looking for a criminal suspect? And then one says,
35:38
Speaker 2: he's got just one eye. And stupid, it's a profile pic.
35:43
Speaker 2: Can't you see that? He's got just one ear, said
35:46
Speaker 2: the second guy. Are you kidding me? I told you, idiots.
35:49
Speaker 2: That's a profile pic, left profile to be exact. He's
35:52
Speaker 2: using contact lenses, sir, said the third guy. Brilliant. How
35:55
Speaker 2: did you come to that conclusion with just a profile pic?
35:57
Speaker 2: How the heck could he keep his glasses in place
35:59
Speaker 2: with just one eye and one ear? Okay, that's stupid. John,
36:03
Speaker 2: a rich playboy had so many girlfriends that he hadn't
36:05
Speaker 2: enough time to entertain them all, so he made a
36:07
Speaker 2: research lab, an offer they couldn't refuse, and got them
36:10
Speaker 2: to clone him. This is very timely. Oh, wow. However,
36:14
Speaker 2: the cloning technique hadn't been perfected, causing his double to
36:17
Speaker 2: suffer from Tourette's syndrome. And the clone's foul language caused
36:25
Speaker 2: the girlfriends to run away. Eventually, the playboy decided something
36:29
Speaker 2: had to be done. So he took him to a
36:31
Speaker 2: remote part of the Grand Canyon, pushed him over a cliff.
36:34
Speaker 2: He thought he'd gotten away with it. But shortly after,
36:36
Speaker 2: the police arrested him for making an obscene clone fall.
36:44
Speaker 2: I did not expect, like, was that going to be
36:47
Speaker 2: a wordplay or a pun? Yeah.
36:48
Speaker 1: I don't know which one it is.
36:50
Speaker 2: John finally, a dumb man, went ice fishing. He'd seen
36:53
Speaker 2: many books on the subject. And finally, after getting all
36:55
Speaker 2: the necessary tools together, he made for the nearest frozen lake.
36:59
Speaker 2: After positioning his comfy stool, he started to make a
37:01
Speaker 2: circular cut in the ice. Suddenly from the sky, a
37:03
Speaker 2: voice boomed. There are no fish under the ice. The
37:07
Speaker 2: dumb man, not quite worried, moved way down to the
37:09
Speaker 2: opposite end of the ice. Swigged down another beer and
37:12
Speaker 2: tried to cut his hole again. The voice came down
37:14
Speaker 2: once more. There are no fish under the ice. He stopped,
37:17
Speaker 2: looked skyward, and said, Is that you, Lord? The voice replied, No,
37:21
Speaker 2: I'm the ice rink manager. John, let's do this week
37:25
Speaker 2: in history. We call it Talk About Then. John, this week, 2012.
37:36
Speaker 1: They gave me time to keep laughing.
37:38
Speaker 2: This week, 2012. You were done. This week, 2012, I
37:42
Speaker 2: didn't know about this, was called the John 3-16 game.
37:46
Speaker 2: Do you know about this? Do you remember the Tim
37:48
Speaker 2: Tebow game where they inexplicably beat the Pittsburgh Steelers? It
37:51
Speaker 2: was the season Tim Tebow had all these fourth quarter comebacks.
37:54
Speaker 1: In the playoffs, right?
37:55
Speaker 2: In the playoffs. So he got them to a playoff game.
37:57
Speaker 2: This Denver team was kind of hapless. Tebow willed them
38:00
Speaker 2: into the playoffs. And then they beat the Steelers and
38:02
Speaker 2: then got hammered by the Pats the next week. But
38:04
Speaker 2: that game was known as the John 3-16 game. And
38:07
Speaker 2: I did not know that that was a thing. But
38:09
Speaker 2: the reason is, Because Heisman Trophy winner Tim Tebow was
38:13
Speaker 2: quarterbacking for the Denver Broncos against the Pittsburgh Steelers during
38:16
Speaker 2: the NFL playoffs. He had worn John 316 on his
38:19
Speaker 2: eye paint in a college playoff game exactly three years earlier.
38:23
Speaker 2: Tebow's passing yards were 316. Tebow's yards per completion, 31.6.
38:28
Speaker 2: Yards per rush, 3.16. The only interception of the game
38:32
Speaker 2: was against the Steelers on 3rd and 16. Steelers' time
38:35
Speaker 2: of possession was 31 minutes, 6 seconds. The Nielsen ratings...
38:38
Speaker 2: For the game peaked at 31.6. The Broncos lost their
38:43
Speaker 2: previous three games by an average of 16 points.
38:45
Speaker 1: I don't know.
38:45
Speaker 2: That last one was a little bit. That's a stretch.
38:48
Speaker 2: But that's a little bit weird. A couple of presidential ones, John.
38:51
Speaker 2: This week, 1992, George Bush vomited on the prime minister.
38:54
Speaker 2: Do you remember this? U.S. President George Bush vomits in
38:57
Speaker 2: the lap of the Japanese prime minister and collapses to
39:01
Speaker 2: the floor. Bush had ignored a physician's warning to stay
39:03
Speaker 2: in bed. So I guess he was a summit kind
39:05
Speaker 2: of a thing. And he's like, will through it. Make
39:07
Speaker 2: yourself go. He had some bad clams and whammo, whatever.
39:11
Speaker 2: That's a weird– Clammo. Clammo. That's a weird thing to
39:14
Speaker 2: have happen at a– like maybe that's– I don't even
39:17
Speaker 2: know what that means to the Japanese prime minister. You
39:19
Speaker 2: could mean the whole thing, vomiting in the lap. That could–
39:21
Speaker 2: you don't know. Maybe that's– Maybe it's a compliment?
39:23
Speaker 1: Yeah.
39:23
Speaker 2: I don't know. We don't know anything about Japanese culture,
39:26
Speaker 2: and I apologize to our Japanese listeners. I think vomiting
39:29
Speaker 2: in somebody's lap is bad no matter where you live.
39:31
Speaker 1: I think it's bad universally.
39:32
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. No, heaven's me. The prophecy has been fulfilled. John,
39:39
Speaker 2: this week, 2007, a universal device was a landmark device
39:47
Speaker 2: was unveiled. Do you remember this? The iPhone. The first
39:50
Speaker 2: iPhone was unveiled to the public by Steve Jobs at
39:52
Speaker 2: the Macworld Convention in San Francisco. It would go on
39:55
Speaker 2: sale in June and retail for, do you want to
39:57
Speaker 2: guess the retail, original retail price of $ 2, 007? Is that,
39:59
Speaker 2: you're asking me.
40:00
Speaker 1: If I want to guess that?
40:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want you to guess the retail price of
40:05
Speaker 2: the iPhone in 2007 in that.
40:07
Speaker 1: You just said $ 2, 007. Oh, I was like, you just
40:09
Speaker 1: told me 2007.
40:09
Speaker 2: I want you to know it didn't cost $ 2, 007.
40:11
Speaker 1: I think it was like a 700.
40:11
Speaker 2: It was between four 99 and five 99.
40:12
Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
40:12
Speaker 2: Okay. But again, that's easily a thousand dollars now. Yeah. Um,
40:14
Speaker 2: 2007 dollars and someone some might ask okay another presidential
40:30
Speaker 2: one that is odd because that was bush senior that
40:33
Speaker 2: threw up in the lap did you know that george
40:35
Speaker 2: i did not know this story george w passed out
40:40
Speaker 2: this week 2002 after choking on a pretzel while watching
40:43
Speaker 2: a football game did you know this no they called
40:45
Speaker 2: this story bush versus pretzel after fainting the president tumbled
40:50
Speaker 2: to the floor From a couch, bruising his lower lip
40:53
Speaker 2: and suffering an abrasion the size of a half dollar
40:55
Speaker 2: on his left cheek. So I guess they had to
40:57
Speaker 2: kind of.
40:58
Speaker 1: How did they get the... I mean, you don't just
41:00
Speaker 1: pass out, you die if they don't get the pretzel out.
41:03
Speaker 2: Well, I guess they figured it out and they Heimliched him, maybe?
41:05
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe.
41:07
Speaker 1: Maybe the pretzel dissolved.
41:09
Speaker 2: Are you saying George W. didn't make it and they
41:12
Speaker 2: put in a weird dummy ringer?
41:13
Speaker 1: He's a clone.
41:15
Speaker 2: Anyway. John, the... This week, 1920, the New York Times
41:22
Speaker 2: editorial mocked Robert Goddard stating that rockets will never fly
41:27
Speaker 2: in space and saying that, quote, he only seems to
41:30
Speaker 2: lack the knowledge ladled out daily in high schools. Goddard's
41:33
Speaker 2: response was, every vision is a joke until the first
41:36
Speaker 2: man accomplishes it once realized it becomes commonplace. They issued
41:41
Speaker 2: an apology in 1969 after the Apollo 11 flight to
41:44
Speaker 2: the moon. One might say they had to Apollo, John.
41:48
Speaker 2: That's what it says in the book. Hey, unfortunately, Goddard
41:53
Speaker 2: had died in 1945.
41:54
Speaker 1: Okay, a little late for that.
41:56
Speaker 2: Posthumous apology. Hey, sorry about saying you were an idiot.
42:00
Speaker 2: Now that we landed on the moon.
42:02
Speaker 1: Hope he didn't die bitter.
42:07
Speaker 2: John, finally, I don't know if you knew this story,
42:09
Speaker 2: because you're an American history guy. And you're kind of
42:12
Speaker 2: a flag guy. Because of the whole Old Glory connection
42:15
Speaker 2: with Captain William Driver. Listen to earlier episodes if you
42:18
Speaker 2: want to know the history of that. They're boring. But
42:22
Speaker 2: this week, 1794, two stars and stripes were added, making
42:28
Speaker 2: 15 stars and stripes because of Kentucky and Vermont. Did
42:31
Speaker 2: you know this? The practice of adding a stripe for
42:34
Speaker 2: each new state entering the Union was eventually deemed impractical.
42:39
Speaker 2: And the Flag Act of 1818 specified that a flag
42:42
Speaker 2: of 13 stripes won for each original colony and 20
42:45
Speaker 2: stars won for each state currently in the Union. With
42:47
Speaker 2: new stars to be added as new states. So they
42:50
Speaker 2: weren't just adding stars. They were adding a stripe per state.
42:52
Speaker 1: I did not know that.
42:52
Speaker 2: Then they thought, well, this is going to look like
42:54
Speaker 2: a pinstripe suit if we just keep going. It's going
42:57
Speaker 2: to be a weird.
42:57
Speaker 1: You won't be able to tell what it is. Yeah.
42:59
Speaker 2: Wow. So they started out with a different idea of like, well, look,
43:02
Speaker 2: we added. And these states were like, hey, where's our stripe?
43:05
Speaker 1: Yeah.
43:06
Speaker 2: And they're like, look, you'll get a star. Calm down.
43:08
Speaker 1: Right. But you're not going to get a stripe now.
43:10
Speaker 2: So the Flag Act of 1818. But this happened in
43:13
Speaker 2: 1794 that Kentucky and Vermont was like, we did it.
43:17
Speaker 2: were on the.
43:18
Speaker 1: Wow.
43:18
Speaker 2: And then they were promptly removed.
43:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, there should be some sort of retribution for that.
43:23
Speaker 2: I think you're right. Yeah. Kentucky, Vermont, if you think
43:26
Speaker 2: you're entitled to compensation.
43:28
Speaker 1: Call. Go to talkaboutthatpodcast.com.
43:31
Speaker 2: That's right, where you can find over 300 archived episodes.
43:35
Speaker 2: Almost none of them talk about Kentucky and Vermont, but
43:37
Speaker 2: we do love our listeners there, and thanks so much
43:39
Speaker 2: for being a part of the show. By the way,
43:41
Speaker 2: send us a message. We love hearing from our listeners.
43:43
Speaker 2: We've heard From several, you know, I've been seeing podcast
43:46
Speaker 2: listeners at shows, at comedy shows, John, in the real world.
43:49
Speaker 2: And some of them want to know why you're not
43:51
Speaker 2: at my shows. I think they think we hang out
43:53
Speaker 2: in real life like Pat Morita and Ralph Macchio from
43:57
Speaker 2: Karate Kid. They always said like, how's, how are the other?
44:00
Speaker 2: They thought that in real life. But John and I
44:02
Speaker 2: are bitter, bitter. Yeah, this is all, these are just characters.
44:05
Speaker 2: This is a professional relationship.
44:07
Speaker 1: Yeah.
44:07
Speaker 2: That makes us almost no money. And yet we sustain it.
44:11
Speaker 2: We maintain it.
44:13
Speaker 1: I think almost is a stretch. I think it loses
44:16
Speaker 1: us money.
44:16
Speaker 2: No, come on. We love it. But listen to this, John.
44:20
Speaker 2: People come to me and they say, where's John? Or
44:22
Speaker 2: they say like, oh, they've read your books. They're very excited.
44:26
Speaker 1: No, they have not.
44:27
Speaker 2: They have. Okay. They bought them in the discount bin
44:31
Speaker 2: of their local McKay's.
44:33
Speaker 1: Whatever works.
44:34
Speaker 2: That's just as good. No, you got nothing from that purchase.
44:37
Speaker 2: But no, people are excited. And it's cool to see
44:40
Speaker 2: people that That's the thing about online stuff. Like we
44:43
Speaker 2: rail against it in some ways, but the only thing
44:46
Speaker 2: I like about online is when it connects to the
44:49
Speaker 2: real world.
44:50
Speaker 1: Yeah.
44:50
Speaker 2: Like if you have an online experience that you wouldn't
44:52
Speaker 2: have otherwise had, like I never would have met person
44:55
Speaker 2: X in the 1950s, but I've established a relationship. They
44:58
Speaker 2: saw a clip and then they followed up. And now
45:01
Speaker 2: in real life, they come to a show and they
45:03
Speaker 2: brought their family or whatever. Now it's like, Oh, I
45:07
Speaker 2: get why this is better. And that's why I don't
45:08
Speaker 2: like that whole, we talked about looking back and imagining
45:11
Speaker 2: only the bad things about the world's going, it's on fire.
45:14
Speaker 2: There's so much good, but I like when you see
45:17
Speaker 2: those moments of technology turning into a living, breathing interaction.
45:21
Speaker 1: Yeah.
45:22
Speaker 2: That's what does it for me. When it just stays digital,
45:25
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily love it as much. Because it feels
45:27
Speaker 2: like people can hide behind their keyboard and say mean things. Mm-hmm.
45:31
Speaker 2: I only like when they hide behind my keyboard and
45:32
Speaker 2: say nice things.
45:34
Speaker 1: That's right.
45:34
Speaker 2: Because those people know what's up. They get it. Yeah.
45:36
Speaker 1: Yes. They're the right kind of people.
45:38
Speaker 2: The other people are just trolls.
45:39
Speaker 1: And speaking of, you should go to our podcast, wherever
45:42
Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts, and leave a review. Oh, yeah.
45:44
Speaker 2: That's right. That's how people find the show. Go to johnnyw.com.
45:47
Speaker 2: You can find new tour dates. They're going up every day.
45:49
Speaker 2: We're adding cities. And 2025 is already looking great. And
45:54
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see you out there all across
45:57
Speaker 2: the fruited plain.
45:58
Speaker 1: It's going to be great, guys. Hey, stay warm out there.
46:01
Speaker 1: We know it's cold and we wish you a happy
46:03
Speaker 1: new year. And we look forward to doing this all year.
46:06
Speaker 1: And we'll start again next week here on Talk About Family.