Latest / Shawna and LaLa: Life Beyond The Mic / Police at the Hotel, Trouble in the Skies & AI Everywhere
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up? You're listening to Shauna and Lala. Check us
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- 0:10Speaker 1: You could follow me on Instagram at therealshaunamay.
- 0:14Speaker 2: And check me out at bella _ _ lala125. I
- 0:15Speaker 2: am finally back from vacation.
- 0:18Speaker 1: And Obviously, I came back sick. What else is new?
- 0:27Speaker 1: I just, I cannot believe that I got sick on
- 0:31Speaker 1: the last day.
- 0:32Speaker 2: At least it was the last day and not the
- 0:34Speaker 2: whole trip because that would have really sucked, you know?
- 0:37Speaker 1: Yeah. My allergies, let's just say South Carolina is not
- 0:41Speaker 1: for me. My allergies were so bad. Really? Yeah.
- 0:48Speaker 2: It must be some kind of plant. You know, I
- 0:50Speaker 2: know certain parts of Florida you are allergic to, too.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Yeah, West Palm Beach. My favorite part.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Oh, my God. That sucks.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Yeah. But I swear, like, I don't know if it
- 1:01Speaker 1: was an allergic reaction. Because when I came home, I
- 1:05Speaker 1: was sick. Although, this time, I went to Myrtle Beach.
- 1:11Speaker 1: And I was just so stuffy. And then I went
- 1:14Speaker 1: to my cousin's in North Carolina.
- 1:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:17Speaker 1: And that day, that next morning, I woke up sick
- 1:22Speaker 1: as a dog.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going around. I'm still fighting off a cold.
- 1:28Speaker 2: And I had similar to you, the congestion. My kids
- 1:31Speaker 2: had it. It was like school starts and all the
- 1:33Speaker 2: germs are just everywhere. So it's everywhere. You're bound to
- 1:37Speaker 2: catch it. And at least you're on the mend and
- 1:40Speaker 2: getting better.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Yeah, thank God.
- 1:43Speaker 2: So how was the drive? I know you were having
- 1:45Speaker 2: severe anxiety. about that trip before you left.
- 1:49Speaker 1: The drive the first day was not bad at all
- 1:54Speaker 1: uh we drove about nine hours uh we stopped to
- 1:58Speaker 1: see my mom's friend in uh pennsylvania on the border
- 2:02Speaker 1: of pennsylvania and maryland so to kind of like break
- 2:06Speaker 1: it up a little bit which was nice it was
- 2:08Speaker 1: nice to see her and her new house um the
- 2:11Speaker 1: dramamine definitely worked oh good So that was a plus.
- 2:16Speaker 1: Thank God.
- 2:16Speaker 4: Yes.
- 2:18Speaker 1: And my IBS was fine. You know, I only had
- 2:25Speaker 1: one episode during the whole trip.
- 2:27Speaker 2: That's good.
- 2:28Speaker 1: So, yeah, I think I just worked myself up beforehand. Oh, yeah.
- 2:34Speaker 2: That's what I was telling you. I said, you're making
- 2:36Speaker 2: yourself worse. And I get it. I've been there. It's hard.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Our brain is so powerful and it takes over, you know.
- 2:44Speaker 2: And it's very hard to fight your brain when your
- 2:46Speaker 2: brain's telling you, nope, nope, nope, we're not doing that.
- 2:48Speaker 2: It's going to be bad. It's going to this. It's
- 2:50Speaker 2: going to that. It's really hard to fight that. But
- 2:54Speaker 2: now you can tell yourself, hey, brain, you were wrong.
- 2:57Speaker 2: I was fine. And you've got to remember that for
- 2:59Speaker 2: the next time. And that's how you fight anxiety is
- 3:02Speaker 2: finding that comfort of, no, I was fine last time.
- 3:04Speaker 2: I'm going to be fine this time and telling yourself
- 3:06Speaker 2: that every single time. Yeah.
- 3:08Speaker 1: It definitely helped. I played music pretty much the whole
- 3:12Speaker 1: way down. and just tried not to think about it. Yeah.
- 3:17Speaker 1: It was hard because, you know, you're trapped in a
- 3:19Speaker 1: car for however long. But the first day really wasn't bad.
- 3:24Speaker 1: After we left my mom's friend's house, we drove through Washington, D.C.,
- 3:31Speaker 1: and we got a hotel in Virginia. And the first
- 3:34Speaker 1: hotel that we went to was a Holiday Inn Express.
- 3:36Speaker 1: I figured there's a dime a dozen hotels around here.
- 3:41Speaker 1: There's got to be rooms, you know. So we just
- 3:42Speaker 1: pulled in. And we couldn't find a parking spot. And
- 3:46Speaker 1: we finally found a parking spot. And there was homeless
- 3:49Speaker 1: people standing outside. So my mom said, before we walk
- 3:54Speaker 1: in there with all of our stuff, make sure they
- 3:57Speaker 1: have a room. So I said, okay. So I called.
- 3:59Speaker 1: I'm like, hi. I'm like, do you have a room, blah, blah, blah.
- 4:02Speaker 1: And the lady's like, we're sold out. I'm like, okay.
- 4:06Speaker 1: I said, do you know of any other hotels around here?
- 4:10Speaker 1: She's like, they're all sold out. She's like, I don't
- 4:13Speaker 1: know what's going on in this area, but they're all
- 4:16Speaker 1: sold out. Oh, my God. So, I'm like, okay. So,
- 4:19Speaker 1: I just Googled a hotel and found one. They had
- 4:23Speaker 1: an opening. They had a room available. And it was
- 4:28Speaker 1: the Best Western. So, I figured, like, you know, Best Western,
- 4:33Speaker 1: they have a good reputation.
- 4:34Speaker 2: They used to be really nice, yeah.
- 4:35Speaker 1: They've been around for hundreds of years. So... We go
- 4:40Speaker 1: there and the check-in guy was like super, super nice.
- 4:44Speaker 1: The hotel was nice. And we're sitting there checking in
- 4:49Speaker 1: and the police show up.
- 4:50Speaker 2: Oh, geez.
- 4:52Speaker 1: And they say, we're looking for a female. And my
- 4:56Speaker 1: mom goes, there she is. She's right here.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Oh, God.
- 5:00Speaker 1: And they just look at me.
- 5:02Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:03Speaker 1: And the guy says that he obviously knew who he
- 5:08Speaker 1: was looking for.
- 5:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 5:11Speaker 1: He was looking for an EDP. Mm-hmm. And they said...
- 5:16Speaker 1: The guy's like, don't worry, there's no warrant. He said,
- 5:19Speaker 1: but we need to speak to whoever this person was.
- 5:23Speaker 1: So all of a sudden... That was two cops. All
- 5:27Speaker 1: of a sudden, within five minutes, six cops show up. Oh, jeez.
- 5:30Speaker 1: And they're all outside the perimeter of the hotel looking
- 5:35Speaker 1: for this person. And all of a sudden, the person...
- 5:39Speaker 1: comes walking down the sidewalk with like a bunch of
- 5:42Speaker 1: people and they're like there she is she's coming down
- 5:46Speaker 1: the sidewalk and they're on their radios and like it
- 5:49Speaker 1: was just insane to see like it actually happening yeah
- 5:52Speaker 1: i felt like i was on like a cops episode
- 5:55Speaker 1: like or just watching a cops episode it's crazy so
- 5:59Speaker 1: we get up to the hotel and the room is
- 6:03Speaker 1: just pitch black there's one light that works The lamps
- 6:08Speaker 1: don't work.
- 6:08Speaker 2: Oh, God.
- 6:09Speaker 1: We couldn't figure out how to turn the TV on.
- 6:11Speaker 1: I finally figured it out. Then I tried to plug
- 6:15Speaker 1: my phone into charge. It doesn't work.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
- 6:19Speaker 1: And my mom is, like, flipping out at this point
- 6:22Speaker 1: because we're exhausted. Yeah. And she's like, what do you
- 6:25Speaker 1: mean the lamps don't work? I said, do we really
- 6:27Speaker 1: need the lamps? Like, we don't need the lamps. We
- 6:30Speaker 1: have a light.
- 6:31Speaker 2: You just need the charger to work.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Yeah, we just need the chargers to work. So we
- 6:36Speaker 1: finally get the chargers to work on a different outlet.
- 6:39Speaker 1: And my mom's like, how much was this room? How
- 6:41Speaker 1: much was this room? And I'm like, oh my God.
- 6:43Speaker 1: I'm like, I just want to go to bed. I know.
- 6:45Speaker 1: So I go to bed. I wake up and my
- 6:49Speaker 1: hand feels weird. I'm like, what the heck? And it's hot. Well,
- 6:54Speaker 1: I got bit by something in the middle of the night.
- 6:57Speaker 1: Had an allergic reaction. Didn't know. And the whole rest
- 7:02Speaker 1: of the day, my arm was just. Like, three times
- 7:05Speaker 1: the size. I'm walking and holding on to, like, a
- 7:08Speaker 1: cup of ice. And throughout the hotel, everyone is, like,
- 7:12Speaker 1: looking at me. And I'm like, I just cannot win.
- 7:15Speaker 1: I cannot win. And, you know, we left. We had breakfast.
- 7:21Speaker 1: And on our way. And, you know, there was so
- 7:25Speaker 1: much construction. I thought, like, our area had a lot
- 7:28Speaker 1: of construction. But, man, it is throughout. the East coast.
- 7:32Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 7:33Speaker 2: It's, it's, it's never ending and never.
- 7:36Speaker 4: No.
- 7:37Speaker 1: So, but long story short, the trip was good. It
- 7:40Speaker 1: was good to see my family. It was good to
- 7:41Speaker 1: see my aunts, um, and my cousins. Um, I will
- 7:46Speaker 1: never take the road trip ever again. Um, and I
- 7:50Speaker 1: am flying from now on.
- 7:52Speaker 3: I know.
- 7:52Speaker 2: That's what I said to my husband. He's like, Oh geez,
- 7:56Speaker 2: it's a, it's a lot. It's really a lot. And
- 7:57Speaker 2: when you have kids too, you imagine how many times
- 8:00Speaker 2: you got to stop for kids. Everyone's on a different
- 8:02Speaker 2: peace schedule. Everyone's hungry and they're fighting and they're bored.
- 8:06Speaker 2: I'm like, let's just go on the plane.
- 8:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 8:10Speaker 1: So we stopped pretty much every two hours except the
- 8:13Speaker 1: last day. We stopped a lot because I was just
- 8:16Speaker 1: I was miserable. We had to find a CVS. I
- 8:19Speaker 1: thought I bought like all my medication that I needed. Yeah,
- 8:22Speaker 1: I didn't. I missed my allergy medicine and my nose spray. Oh, geez.
- 8:27Speaker 1: And my mom didn't have any cough drops, which is
- 8:30Speaker 1: like rare for her. So we had to find a CVS.
- 8:34Speaker 1: And that took up about, you know, an extra half hour.
- 8:38Speaker 3: Yeah, well.
- 8:41Speaker 2: At least you're on the road, right? And I always say,
- 8:43Speaker 2: at least you're in the country. You could stop at
- 8:45Speaker 2: regular stores and get what you need. That's the nice part.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really nice.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Traveling out of the country is hard when you forget things. Like, well,
- 8:52Speaker 2: I'm shit out of luck.
- 8:54Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 8:55Speaker 1: But it was really nice. I actually met a really
- 8:59Speaker 1: nice person. We went shopping because when we came back
- 9:02Speaker 1: from Florida, I figured I would spend at least two
- 9:05Speaker 1: days on the beach in Myrtle Beach and just relax. Well,
- 9:08Speaker 1: that wasn't happening because the storm, it hit Myrtle Beach first. Yeah.
- 9:14Speaker 1: And it just poured. And so we went shopping and
- 9:18Speaker 1: I met this really nice lady. People down there are
- 9:21Speaker 1: so friendly. And it's just slow, like slow paced. And
- 9:26Speaker 1: this lady, she just started talking to me about this
- 9:29Speaker 1: cutting board that was on sale. It was in the
- 9:32Speaker 1: shape of a Christmas tree. They had Christmas stuff out already.
- 9:36Speaker 1: And she's like, She goes, oh, it's from India. She said,
- 9:39Speaker 1: I'll take it. And she looks at me and she goes,
- 9:41Speaker 1: I don't buy things from China. So I started laughing.
- 9:46Speaker 1: And she said, I make it a game for myself.
- 9:50Speaker 1: She's like, to make it fun, that I don't buy
- 9:53Speaker 1: anything from China. So I was like, oh, okay. She's like,
- 9:57Speaker 1: you know, you really need to get this cutting board.
- 9:59Speaker 1: It $ 16. 99.
- 10:01Speaker 2: Oh my god.
- 10:02Speaker 1: So I said, I was like, yeah, my mom would
- 10:05Speaker 1: kill me if I have another cutting board. Or anything
- 10:08Speaker 1: for like holiday decor.
- 10:10Speaker 4: Yes.
- 10:12Speaker 1: And so she was just really funny. And she's like,
- 10:15Speaker 1: she goes, where are you from? I said, New York.
- 10:18Speaker 1: She's like... are you coming back before Christmas? I said,
- 10:22Speaker 1: I don't know, I might. She said, can you bring
- 10:25Speaker 1: me back a shovel? What? And I was like, what?
- 10:30Speaker 2: What?
- 10:30Speaker 1: I said, can't you order it on Amazon? And she goes, no,
- 10:36Speaker 1: I don't order off of Amazon. Jeff Bezos is disgusting.
- 10:41Speaker 1: She goes, I refuse to order off of Amazon. Go
- 10:45Speaker 1: to Walmart. I said, um, oh, well, there's always like
- 10:49Speaker 1: Home Depot and Lowe's and Walmart, Sam's Club. Yeah. They
- 10:56Speaker 1: have a Costco down there. And she goes, yeah, but
- 10:59Speaker 1: she's like, we're in South Carolina. They don't sell shovels.
- 11:03Speaker 2: She wants a snow shovel?
- 11:04Speaker 3: Yes.
- 11:05Speaker 1: Why? Because it snowed last year.
- 11:07Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it does snow here and there. Well, she
- 11:09Speaker 2: can order through Walmart. And it'll come delivered, you know,
- 11:13Speaker 2: or Home Depot.
- 11:13Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was thinking. I'm like, lady, I'm
- 11:15Speaker 1: not getting on a plane or shuttle. I don't even
- 11:17Speaker 1: know you. Yeah, it was just, it was really funny.
- 11:22Speaker 1: But the stores there are so clean.
- 11:25Speaker 2: I know.
- 11:26Speaker 1: So nice. And very well stocked.
- 11:31Speaker 2: I love, I, when we go to Florida, we love
- 11:33Speaker 2: going to, well, Sarasota, their stores are Just gorgeous. They
- 11:38Speaker 2: make every store, even TJ Maxx, look like luxury. So
- 11:43Speaker 2: I do love checking out the stores. It's just different.
- 11:45Speaker 2: Even the hospitals. The hospitals are so clean. I mean,
- 11:49Speaker 2: I guess it depends on the area you're in, but
- 11:52Speaker 2: oh my God, we raved about the hospital in Sarasota.
- 11:54Speaker 2: We still talk about how clean it was, how nice
- 11:57Speaker 2: everyone was, how like the slow pace, but they got
- 12:00Speaker 2: you in right away and they were so friendly. Like
- 12:03Speaker 2: you don't see that in New York.
- 12:05Speaker 1: No, you don't. Even in Georgia, we went to the
- 12:07Speaker 1: Welcome Center just to, you know, stretch our feet. And
- 12:11Speaker 1: we couldn't even, like, get away from the lady that
- 12:13Speaker 1: was just, like, talking our ear off. Oh, yeah.
- 12:16Speaker 2: The South is different. It's just they're so amazing. They're
- 12:19Speaker 2: so nice. So sweet, talkative, friendly. Like, it is a
- 12:24Speaker 2: shock when you come from New York how no one
- 12:27Speaker 2: wants to talk to you or even staff at a
- 12:29Speaker 2: restaurant or a drive-thru. They just don't respond to you.
- 12:33Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, thank you. And they just look
- 12:34Speaker 2: at you. But down south is like they're starting conversations
- 12:38Speaker 2: with you and they're smiling and they're saying thank you
- 12:40Speaker 2: and please and hi, how are you doing? And they
- 12:42Speaker 2: really want to know. It's not like they just say it.
- 12:46Speaker 2: They really want to know how you're doing.
- 12:48Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:49Speaker 1: And they kept filling my aunt's cup up with refills. Yeah.
- 12:55Speaker 1: And she wasn't even asking. So then all of a
- 12:57Speaker 1: sudden I get a refill. My soda wasn't even like
- 13:00Speaker 1: halfway done. And I said, I didn't ask for this.
- 13:04Speaker 1: And my aunt's like, you don't ask for it either.
- 13:07Speaker 1: They just refill it. She's like, and you say thank you.
- 13:10Speaker 1: And she goes, you don't say I don't want it.
- 13:11Speaker 1: I said, obviously, I didn't say it to the guy. But,
- 13:16Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, I'll be flowing.
- 13:19Speaker 2: I loved it, though, because I always, I hope you
- 13:23Speaker 2: got sweet tea and not just soda. Did you get
- 13:25Speaker 2: any sweet tea down south?
- 13:26Speaker 1: I did.
- 13:27Speaker 2: It was not good?
- 13:28Speaker 1: It was not good.
- 13:29Speaker 3: What?
- 13:30Speaker 2: Where, where'd you, I mean, we, the sweet tea was
- 13:33Speaker 2: amazing everywhere we went. That's crazy.
- 13:35Speaker 1: Yeah. Very strange because when I was in Nashville with you,
- 13:40Speaker 1: that's all I got.
- 13:41Speaker 2: It's so good down South. I mean, I don't know
- 13:43Speaker 2: where you went, but South Carolina, Georgia, North Carolina, I
- 13:47Speaker 2: don't know about North, but South Carolina, Georgia and Florida.
- 13:51Speaker 2: I love their sweet tea. And they just, like you said,
- 13:53Speaker 2: they refill it and refill it and it's free. Like
- 13:56Speaker 2: free refills, but they just kept coming over and I'm like,
- 13:58Speaker 2: I'm going to just piss myself like on the way home.
- 14:02Speaker 1: So we went to a really nice restaurant with my
- 14:05Speaker 1: brother in Florida and I got raspberry tea because they
- 14:10Speaker 1: didn't have sweet tea. It was so strong. It tasted
- 14:14Speaker 1: like prednisone.
- 14:16Speaker 2: What the hell? That's weird. Maybe they didn't make it fresh.
- 14:20Speaker 2: Maybe it was like a.
- 14:21Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 14:22Speaker 2: Yeah, because if they didn't have regular sweet tea, then
- 14:24Speaker 2: maybe they're not even making it. They're just... getting a
- 14:26Speaker 2: container you know.
- 14:28Speaker 1: I don't know but i couldn't drink it and you
- 14:31Speaker 1: know that that was the joke at the table um
- 14:35Speaker 1: so the lady's like do you want to try another
- 14:36Speaker 1: iced tea and i said no i'll just have a.
- 14:39Speaker 2: Soda well anyway but yeah normally normally it's good but
- 14:45Speaker 2: yeah i was a little.
- 14:46Speaker 1: Shocked that um it wasn't it wasn't great.
- 14:50Speaker 2: Well i'm glad i'm glad it was overall a And
- 14:56Speaker 2: even me. But, you know... But, like I said, flying
- 14:59Speaker 2: comes with anxiety and fears, too. You know what I mean?
- 15:02Speaker 2: And just actually two days ago, there was a... Or yesterday,
- 15:05Speaker 2: maybe it was. A hijacking of a... Did you see that?
- 15:08Speaker 2: A hijacking of a Dubai air flight?
- 15:12Speaker 1: I didn't see it, but you had sent it to me. Yeah.
- 15:15Speaker 1: And my friend actually posted about it. And he said
- 15:19Speaker 1: that it's not really on national news. No.
- 15:23Speaker 2: Because it's insane. They're not even... Some news stations that
- 15:27Speaker 2: are reporting it aren't even calling it a terrorist attack.
- 15:29Speaker 2: They're calling it an altercation of pilots. And that's not
- 15:33Speaker 2: what happened. It was a, the co-pilot was a terrorist.
- 15:38Speaker 2: And the co-pilot wanted to crash the plane and started
- 15:41Speaker 2: stabbing the pilot as they were flying. And they started fighting, obviously,
- 15:46Speaker 2: because the pilot's being stabbed. And then the co-pilot made
- 15:50Speaker 2: the plane, he was trying to smash the equipment and
- 15:52Speaker 2: made the plane go nose down. So the plane dropped,
- 15:55Speaker 2: I think they said 18,000 feet in like 1.2, I
- 15:59Speaker 2: don't know how fast. It was fast though, you know?
- 16:01Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
- 16:02Speaker 2: And everyone, the videos, I've seen people are screaming. They
- 16:05Speaker 2: don't know what's going on. And the pilot had enough
- 16:08Speaker 2: strength to unlock the door to the cockpit. And that's
- 16:13Speaker 2: when passengers barged through and saw what was happening. And
- 16:17Speaker 2: they wrestled the terrorist out. And the one guy, he
- 16:20Speaker 2: pulled the nose up. And he's not a pilot. And
- 16:22Speaker 2: everyone asked him, I was watching the interview, like, how'd
- 16:25Speaker 2: you know to do that? He's like, I saw it
- 16:27Speaker 2: on TV. So he pulled the joysticks or whatever up.
- 16:32Speaker 2: And then luckily there was two other pilots on as
- 16:36Speaker 2: passengers for a different airline, I think. They were just
- 16:38Speaker 2: passengers flying. And they ran and flew the plane and
- 16:42Speaker 2: landed it. So thank God. Thank God. But yeah, it's scary.
- 16:46Speaker 2: It really is. And I love, though, how... because 9-11
- 16:51Speaker 2: was horrible, but because of 9-11, it's like now everyone's
- 16:56Speaker 2: on guard and they're ready to fight for their life.
- 16:58Speaker 2: And I think that's a positive that came out of it.
- 17:01Speaker 2: Not that we should have to do that, but that
- 17:03Speaker 2: these passengers are like, nope, not letting this happen again.
- 17:05Speaker 2: And they got that guy and took him out of
- 17:08Speaker 2: the cockpit.
- 17:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:10Speaker 1: I think every plane should have police on it. Yeah.
- 17:13Speaker 1: I don't know why they don't.
- 17:15Speaker 2: They used to. After 9-11, they had secret I don't
- 17:19Speaker 2: want to call them police. They were kind of like,
- 17:21Speaker 2: but like that had a gun on them.
- 17:23Speaker 1: Like undercover?
- 17:24Speaker 2: Undercover. So you didn't know who it was. They would
- 17:25Speaker 2: look like a normal passenger. And then if something happened,
- 17:29Speaker 2: they had a weapon on them and they could take.
- 17:31Speaker 2: But I think that it became maybe expensive. I don't know.
- 17:34Speaker 2: I don't know if they still do it. Maybe they do.
- 17:36Speaker 2: And it's like secret.
- 17:37Speaker 1: But let me tell you something. I would pay extra
- 17:40Speaker 1: for a flight to pay that guy's salary.
- 17:43Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 17:44Speaker 3: Right. Right.
- 17:45Speaker 2: Peace of mind.
- 17:47Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 17:47Speaker 2: And if he could fly the plane, even better because
- 17:49Speaker 2: then if something happens, like this one, there was pilots
- 17:52Speaker 2: because I was like, what if there wasn't any pilots
- 17:55Speaker 2: on the plane? Who's flying that thing? Who's landing that thing? That's,
- 17:59Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, that would be really scary
- 18:02Speaker 2: because a regular person wouldn't know how to do that.
- 18:05Speaker 2: They probably could try and walk someone through it, but
- 18:08Speaker 2: there's so much training that goes into that. I just, it,
- 18:12Speaker 2: they're lucky. That's all I can say.
- 18:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:14Speaker 1: It's not like a, Regular driver's license. No, no.
- 18:18Speaker 2: And oh my God, you know, something else that's been really,
- 18:21Speaker 2: really annoying me lately is all this AI crap. And
- 18:25Speaker 2: now listen, AI has been amazing. It's helped me with
- 18:28Speaker 2: my business. It's helped us sometimes with our show. You know, I've,
- 18:33Speaker 2: I've in the beginning when AI was started getting popular.
- 18:35Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:36Speaker 2: I used it to make some promo stuff.
- 18:38Speaker 1: It was great.
- 18:39Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my God, this is amazing. But now
- 18:41Speaker 2: it's getting out of control.
- 18:43Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, everybody's using it. It's oversaturated. There's way
- 18:48Speaker 1: too many different programs out there. And you can't tell
- 18:53Speaker 1: what's real and what's fake.
- 18:54Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:56Speaker 2: And then sometimes you can, and you're like, do these
- 19:00Speaker 2: people think we're dumb?
- 19:02Speaker 1: That too.
- 19:03Speaker 2: We know that that's AI. We know that that flyer
- 19:07Speaker 2: or that picture is AI. We know it.
- 19:10Speaker 5: And.
- 19:11Speaker 1: Like, I posted Leo's birthday today, my cat, and I
- 19:15Speaker 1: posted a picture of him with a birthday hat on
- 19:19Speaker 1: and a little card that says happy birthday. Yeah. I mean,
- 19:22Speaker 1: obviously that's AI.
- 19:23Speaker 2: Yeah, and stuff like that's funny. It's cute. But people
- 19:26Speaker 2: that are using it for, like, professional stuff or for
- 19:29Speaker 2: businesses constantly or flyers. Oh, the flyers. I can't deal
- 19:35Speaker 2: with the flyers anymore. Everyone's flyer looks exactly the same,
- 19:39Speaker 2: just different colorings. It's like, don't they realize that every
- 19:43Speaker 2: business's flyer right now looks the same? Have you noticed that?
- 19:46Speaker 2: They all look the same. Yeah. Just obviously different wordings.
- 19:50Speaker 2: or different event, but it's the same format, the same.
- 19:54Speaker 2: So much is going on on that page where your
- 19:56Speaker 2: eyes don't know where to look.
- 19:57Speaker 1: Yes.
- 19:58Speaker 2: Where's the location? What the hell's going on? It looks cool,
- 20:01Speaker 2: but it's too busy.
- 20:03Speaker 4: Too much.
- 20:03Speaker 2: Yeah, too busy.
- 20:05Speaker 1: And a lot of- You know what really drives me nuts?
- 20:08Speaker 1: Not to cut you off. the emails that we get
- 20:10Speaker 1: from people like pitches uh-huh you could totally tell that
- 20:14Speaker 1: they are from like chat gbt oh my god because
- 20:18Speaker 1: they're like hey shauna and lala we loved your episode
- 20:21Speaker 1: about blah blah blah blah um you know this would
- 20:26Speaker 1: be our product would be a great fit for blah
- 20:29Speaker 1: blah you know for you guys blah blah blah blah
- 20:31Speaker 1: because of this episode and i'm like this episode has
- 20:34Speaker 1: nothing to do with your product.
- 20:37Speaker 2: Yeah, they put it into GVJ and said, write me
- 20:40Speaker 2: an email. I know. And it's getting bad. And they're
- 20:45Speaker 2: saying that people are losing, we're going to lose our
- 20:48Speaker 2: ability to write, to respond, to think, to create. I
- 20:53Speaker 2: used to make flyers. I've been making flyers since my
- 20:56Speaker 2: teen years because I used to work for clubs. I
- 20:58Speaker 2: made all their flyers. And I had a band. I
- 21:00Speaker 2: made all the flyers. And then, I don't really use
- 21:04Speaker 2: it to make flyers anymore, but there was a point
- 21:06Speaker 2: where I was starting to use it for more of
- 21:08Speaker 2: my creative stuff for my business. And I said, I
- 21:11Speaker 2: got to stop because this is not good. You know,
- 21:14Speaker 2: it might look cool, but I got to stop. And
- 21:17Speaker 2: I did. But I'm seeing all these people are complaining. Now,
- 21:20Speaker 2: when I see a business use an AI flyer, I'm
- 21:22Speaker 2: going to be honest. It might sound ridiculous, but it
- 21:25Speaker 2: turns me off to the business. It turns me off.
- 21:28Speaker 2: And I'm like, I can't trust anything that they're doing
- 21:31Speaker 2: because everything's AI. or they'll post pictures of their products
- 21:35Speaker 2: in their business or something that their business is offering,
- 21:38Speaker 2: and you know it's AI. You could tell it's AI,
- 21:41Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah, I don't trust your business now
- 21:43Speaker 2: because this is all fake. I have a cannoli business, right,
- 21:49Speaker 2: and an Italian dessert business. All my pictures are real.
- 21:55Speaker 2: I think the only thing I've used AI on is
- 21:58Speaker 2: my banner on my website at the time because that
- 22:00Speaker 2: was when it first came out. two years ago whatever
- 22:04Speaker 2: and just my car it's my real car but I
- 22:06Speaker 2: said hey make it look like it's sitting in an
- 22:09Speaker 2: Italian you know whatever and you can tell it's AI
- 22:12Speaker 2: I'm not hiding it it's obviously kind of cartoony and
- 22:15Speaker 2: that's fine but all my product pictures they're my own
- 22:20Speaker 2: you know I'm not using AI I think I only
- 22:22Speaker 2: use AI for one to put a logo on my
- 22:24Speaker 2: tiramisu cup because I didn't have a low my logo
- 22:27Speaker 2: stickers didn't come in yet but it was my tiramisu
- 22:29Speaker 2: cup you know what I'm saying so it's like I
- 22:32Speaker 2: see there's a local business by me that does coffee.
- 22:37Speaker 2: And their pitchers, they're not their own. And it's just
- 22:41Speaker 2: a turnoff to me. You have the product, right? Are
- 22:44Speaker 2: you making the product? Because maybe you're just getting it
- 22:46Speaker 2: from the store. I don't know. That's a fake pitcher.
- 22:48Speaker 2: Why are you using AI? I lose trust in a
- 22:52Speaker 2: business when they're doing that.
- 22:55Speaker 1: You should really do a photo shoot.
- 22:57Speaker 2: I had one photo shoot... back in may was it
- 23:02Speaker 2: at angry orchard so i should post those pictures but
- 23:05Speaker 2: i do i do want to do a big photo
- 23:08Speaker 2: shoot um have a content creator come and film more
- 23:12Speaker 2: of my stuff because i'm my own content creator i
- 23:14Speaker 2: hired a content creator once and it was it was
- 23:17Speaker 2: really well worth it but it's just hard when i
- 23:20Speaker 2: have so many events going on like to hire people
- 23:22Speaker 2: and get that it's just it's a nightmare so yes
- 23:26Speaker 2: i do have to do a brand another photo shoot
- 23:28Speaker 2: maybe with my gelato cart or my Cheesecake bar or
- 23:31Speaker 2: something like that.
- 23:33Speaker 1: Which I am so excited for. You didn't even tell me.
- 23:35Speaker 3: Yes.
- 23:35Speaker 2: It's been in the works.
- 23:38Speaker 1: I found out by going... She wanted me to look
- 23:41Speaker 1: at her website and tell her how it looked. And I'm, like,
- 23:45Speaker 1: going through it and I'm telling her. And I'm like,
- 23:47Speaker 1: you have a cheesecake bar? You didn't tell me that.
- 23:51Speaker 2: Shona loves cheesecake. Yeah, it's my mom's recipe.
- 23:54Speaker 1: And it was.
- 23:56Speaker 2: Any family that runs into me or friends of my mom,
- 23:59Speaker 2: all they... One of the things they always bring up
- 24:01Speaker 2: in conversation was, I miss your mom's cheesecake. And my
- 24:04Speaker 2: mom's cheesecake was out of this world. I've never tasted
- 24:06Speaker 2: a cheesecake like it before.
- 24:08Speaker 1: But you don't like baking.
- 24:10Speaker 2: I don't like baking. I hate it. And that's what
- 24:12Speaker 2: I said to my husband. I said, I hate baking.
- 24:14Speaker 2: And now my company is turning into more desserts, which
- 24:17Speaker 2: I don't, I'm not a dessert eater. I hardly ever
- 24:20Speaker 2: eat my product. And it's not because it's bad. I'm just,
- 24:22Speaker 2: sweets make me sick. Cheesecake, I'll have a slice. Cannoli,
- 24:27Speaker 2: I really don't eat it. I like the way my
- 24:30Speaker 2: cannoli tastes, but it's not something I could sit, like
- 24:32Speaker 2: my brother will sit there, my sister, and they will
- 24:35Speaker 2: squeeze a whole bag of my cannoli cream down their mouth.
- 24:37Speaker 2: And I'm like, I want to throw up. Not because
- 24:39Speaker 2: it's bad, but because sugar makes me feel sick, you know?
- 24:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:42Speaker 2: But it's funny to me, like you said, I hate baking.
- 24:45Speaker 2: And it's, but what makes me do it is the love. Like,
- 24:50Speaker 2: I feel like I'm bringing my mom back to life,
- 24:52Speaker 2: like not back to life, but she's living on through this.
- 24:55Speaker 2: And to me, that's important. So I put that love
- 24:58Speaker 2: into making my stuff and it's like honoring my mother.
- 25:02Speaker 2: So that's what I love about it. But baking for me,
- 25:05Speaker 2: like I always say, the reason I don't like baking
- 25:09Speaker 2: is because it's so precise. And when I cook, I
- 25:12Speaker 2: cook with just throwing ingredients together. I don't measure anything.
- 25:16Speaker 2: So I love that way of cooking. But with baking,
- 25:18Speaker 2: you got to measure. You got to measure everything to
- 25:21Speaker 2: the point. And that's where I don't like. So it's
- 25:24Speaker 2: not that I hate baking. It's I hate how structured
- 25:26Speaker 2: it is because i'm not a structured person.
- 25:29Speaker 1: See and i am yeah i can't just throw a
- 25:33Speaker 1: little bit of this in there a little bit of
- 25:34Speaker 1: that yeah i need to know precise directions even though
- 25:38Speaker 1: i get them wrong half the time i need to
- 25:41Speaker 1: know half a cup of this tablespoon of this okay.
- 25:45Speaker 2: Yep and a lot of people are like that i
- 25:48Speaker 2: i have add so me following rules and and ingredients
- 25:53Speaker 2: is it's just, it's too much for my brain, so
- 25:55Speaker 2: that's why I cook with just a little of this,
- 25:58Speaker 2: and then, but listen, it's amazing, the cheesecake, the cannoli, tiramisu,
- 26:04Speaker 2: I do it, and it's not as, tiramisu, I don't
- 26:07Speaker 2: have to bake at least, it's just putting the ingredients together,
- 26:10Speaker 2: and that I kind of do my own thing with,
- 26:12Speaker 2: but the cheesecake, my mom's recipe, nope, I gotta stick
- 26:15Speaker 2: to that, boom, boom, boom, everything has to be exact,
- 26:18Speaker 2: because if it's not, it won't taste like hers, but
- 26:22Speaker 2: the point I was making with that was I start,
- 26:23Speaker 2: I made it for my husband's, um, all the chief
- 26:26Speaker 2: of the police. I made it for them and they
- 26:29Speaker 2: were raving about it. And they're like, is she selling this?
- 26:32Speaker 2: Because she needs it. They love my cannoli. Like she
- 26:34Speaker 2: needs to sell this now. She needs to sell this
- 26:36Speaker 2: because this is the best cheesecake I've ever had. So
- 26:40Speaker 2: Mike told me that. And I said, all right, you
- 26:42Speaker 2: know what? Um, mom, I'm, I have your cannoli recipe here.
- 26:46Speaker 2: I'm bringing in your cheesecake. And my husband, Oh Jesus,
- 26:49Speaker 2: I shouldn't have told you that. But yeah, so that's
- 26:53Speaker 2: what I'm offering now is the cheesecake bar.
- 26:56Speaker 1: So maybe what you could do, just a thought, the
- 26:59Speaker 1: kitchen that you cook out of, maybe you could sell
- 27:03Speaker 1: it there.
- 27:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking of asking her. She would be
- 27:06Speaker 2: fine with it. She sells all baked goods there. She
- 27:08Speaker 2: does croissants and she does cinnabons. They're so good. Breads.
- 27:12Speaker 2: So cheesecake would go perfectly. And especially with the holidays
- 27:16Speaker 2: coming up. So I was thinking of, she does pop-ups there.
- 27:18Speaker 2: So I'm going to do a pop-up and have people...
- 27:21Speaker 2: maybe pre-order cheesecakes for Thanksgiving or, you know what I mean? Yeah. Um,
- 27:26Speaker 2: and I'll have to make one. I'm going to make
- 27:28Speaker 2: one this weekend for Gio's birthday and I'll bring it
- 27:31Speaker 2: in so you can be a taste tester of the cheesecake.
- 27:34Speaker 1: Yes, definitely. I will never forget. You probably will never
- 27:38Speaker 1: let me live it down. The cheesecake recipe that we
- 27:42Speaker 1: made for some holiday. Oh yeah. For the show. And
- 27:46Speaker 1: it took three days.
- 27:47Speaker 2: Oh my God. Was it Cheesecake Factory we were trying
- 27:50Speaker 2: to mimic?
- 27:51Speaker 1: I think so.
- 27:52Speaker 2: Listen, I love Cheesecake Factory's vanilla bean cheesecake.
- 27:55Speaker 1: That's what it was.
- 27:56Speaker 2: Yes. I love it. And it's different than my mom's.
- 28:00Speaker 2: My mom's is different. My mom's is good, but I
- 28:02Speaker 2: love cheesecake, the vanilla bean one. So Shota wanted to
- 28:04Speaker 2: make it. I was like, oh, you know I hate baking,
- 28:07Speaker 2: but okay. This thing had like 30 steps and three
- 28:11Speaker 2: days worth of stuff and peeling vanilla bean stalks and
- 28:16Speaker 2: scraping out the seeds. And I just was like giving
- 28:18Speaker 2: her the look of death the whole time. so luckily
- 28:23Speaker 2: my mom's is not that complicated it is a it's
- 28:25Speaker 2: a little more complicated than a traditional cheesecake but not
- 28:28Speaker 2: that recipe that recipe is insane but it was good
- 28:32Speaker 2: tasted good at the end but i'm like i can
- 28:33Speaker 2: never i'm never taking that many days to do that
- 28:36Speaker 2: it was not worth it no no too much work
- 28:39Speaker 2: just go to cheesecake factory and get it because it's
- 28:42Speaker 2: delicious but too.
- 28:43Speaker 1: Much work seventeen dollars a slice i'm pretty.
- 28:45Speaker 2: Sure yeah it's expensive I think my mother-in-law, she wants
- 28:50Speaker 2: to order one for Christmas. And I'm like, I can't
- 28:52Speaker 2: even imagine how a whole cake would cost from Cheesecake Factory.
- 28:56Speaker 2: So she wants to get the vanilla bean whole pie.
- 28:59Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, my God. Like, that must cost a
- 29:01Speaker 2: lot of money.
- 29:03Speaker 5: We have Mary Claire here. And we met in Nashville
- 29:07Speaker 5: last year. And all of the memories have just been, like,
- 29:12Speaker 5: popping up the past, like, two weeks.
- 29:14Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Because I guess it's.
- 29:15Speaker 1: Been, like, a year since we've done this.
- 29:16Speaker 5: In August.
- 29:16Speaker 2: We went in August.
- 29:17Speaker 5: Yeah. So it's crazy. And so you are back. And
- 29:23Speaker 5: you have been up to.
- 29:24Speaker 1: A ton of stuff.
- 29:26Speaker 5: We follow each other on Instagram. And you are just
- 29:30Speaker 5: performing everywhere. And you went to the Dove Awards. And
- 29:34Speaker 5: you have music videos out and new music. So you've
- 29:39Speaker 5: been really really busy well.
- 29:41Speaker 3: First of all it's just so good to be back
- 29:43Speaker 3: with you guys i mean the first time we met
- 29:45Speaker 3: it was so much fun you guys you just made
- 29:47Speaker 3: it feel like a hangout.
- 29:48Speaker 4: So it's so good to talk to you guys again. Um,
- 29:51Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean, life has.
- 29:53Speaker 3: Been good, you know, God has been answering so many
- 29:56Speaker 3: prayers and there've been some fun things happening. Um, I
- 30:00Speaker 3: put out a song with Stephen Malcolm who he's just
- 30:02Speaker 3: so fun. I mean, he's like got the R and
- 30:05Speaker 3: B rap vibe that I cannot bring. So we made
- 30:09Speaker 3: a song together and that was so much fun. That
- 30:11Speaker 3: was such a blessing. The dev awards were great, you know?
- 30:14Speaker 4: So yeah, But yeah, it's just good to talk to
- 30:16Speaker 4: you guys again. This is such a blessing.
- 30:18Speaker 5: I had never heard of the Dove Awards until you
- 30:23Speaker 5: posted about it. So I had Googled it and I
- 30:25Speaker 5: was like, oh my God, there's so many people that
- 30:28Speaker 5: we've interviewed and that we know that attend the Dove Awards.
- 30:32Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's, I mean.
- 30:34Speaker 3: it's one of those places where you look around and
- 30:36Speaker 3: you're like, Oh, that's that person. That's, you know, you
- 30:38Speaker 3: recognize so many faces. It's such a fun event.
- 30:41Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely.
- 30:42Speaker 5: Is it like a networking event? Would you say like,
- 30:44Speaker 5: could you go up to people like on the carpet
- 30:47Speaker 5: and like talk to them and network? Or is it like,
- 30:50Speaker 5: is that like shunned upon?
- 30:52Speaker 3: So I mean, it's a Christian award show. So just
- 30:54Speaker 3: like any award show, there's going to be a certain
- 30:56Speaker 3: degree of mingling. But for the most part, everyone's there
- 30:59Speaker 3: to you know, walk the red carpet, the artists are
- 31:02Speaker 3: talking to press. And then when the show is happening,
- 31:05Speaker 3: it's pretty fast moving, but of course there's time to
- 31:08Speaker 3: hang out and see people. And I mean, I'm sure
- 31:10Speaker 3: you guys would love it and you'd be great there.
- 31:12Speaker 3: It'd be such a good environment.
- 31:14Speaker 5: We've never done an award show.
- 31:16Speaker 2: I know that'd be really cool.
- 31:17Speaker 1: That would be, that's crazy.
- 31:19Speaker 2: Yeah. Red carpet stuff, but never, it was not for awards.
- 31:22Speaker 1: It was just, yeah.
- 31:23Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 31:24Speaker 2: But that, that'd be really cool.
- 31:25Speaker 5: That would be, yeah.
- 31:27Speaker 1: That'd be awesome.
- 31:28Speaker 5: So what have you been up to besides recording new music?
- 31:32Speaker 5: So you have a song called Rise Up, and it's
- 31:36Speaker 5: obviously uplifting. But everyone has moments where they don't feel
- 31:42Speaker 5: their strongest and they don't feel positive. So when you're
- 31:48Speaker 5: personally having a rough day, what helps you find encouragement
- 31:53Speaker 5: for yourself?
- 31:54Speaker 4: Well, you know what?
- 31:55Speaker 3: When I was younger and I would have a hard
- 31:57Speaker 3: time or a hard day or something would happen that
- 32:00Speaker 3: would just set me off track, my initial reaction was
- 32:03Speaker 3: to just distract myself or to turn on the fun
- 32:06Speaker 3: music and pretend like it never happened. And the older
- 32:09Speaker 3: I get, I'm kind of realizing that the best thing
- 32:12Speaker 3: for me is to just go right through it. Like
- 32:14Speaker 3: if I'm feeling sad, I just got to turn on
- 32:16Speaker 3: the sad music or if a friend, you know, does
- 32:19Speaker 3: something or a family member or something happens, I just
- 32:23Speaker 3: have to be like, okay, I'm just going to sit
- 32:25Speaker 3: in this. I'm just going to cry it out. I'm
- 32:27Speaker 3: going to be sad because honestly that gets me through
- 32:30Speaker 3: quicker than trying to suppress all those emotions. So when
- 32:33Speaker 3: hard days come, I just embrace it. I just turn
- 32:36Speaker 3: on the fray and cry it out.
- 32:38Speaker 5: And that is, that's so funny that you said the
- 32:43Speaker 5: fray because I used to, um, I suffer from anxiety
- 32:47Speaker 5: and depression and that, that is what I used to just.
- 32:51Speaker 1: Play all the time.
- 32:52Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely. It's It's so good.
- 32:55Speaker 5: Her big music for it.
- 32:56Speaker 4: That's right.
- 32:58Speaker 2: I go to like Celine Dion because I'm a little older.
- 33:01Speaker 4: I love Celine.
- 33:05Speaker 2: I do too. Her songs are so emotional. Sometimes I
- 33:07Speaker 2: can just cry from hearing her voice because it's just
- 33:11Speaker 2: spiritual and magical. There's nothing about her and Dolly Parton. Yeah.
- 33:15Speaker 2: They have good hearts. I know.
- 33:18Speaker 4: I can't believe she's gone. I mean, do you guys
- 33:20Speaker 4: remember where you were when you found out about Dolly?
- 33:23Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 33:23Speaker 5: In the studio.
- 33:24Speaker 2: We were in the studio and, and we had just,
- 33:26Speaker 2: when we went to Nashville to, you know, when we
- 33:29Speaker 2: met with you, um, we went to her grand opening
- 33:32Speaker 2: of her show down there and it was amazing. Like
- 33:35Speaker 2: I didn't think I was going to like it. I
- 33:37Speaker 2: liked Dolly, but not, but I never knew all that
- 33:41Speaker 2: about her life. And it's, if you haven't seen it yet,
- 33:42Speaker 2: I don't know if you have, it's, it's absolutely amazing.
- 33:46Speaker 2: So I'm glad that we got to do that last year.
- 33:49Speaker 2: And then she had that, you know, we went to
- 33:51Speaker 2: the hall of fame, right. And we sold her outfits
- 33:53Speaker 2: and really, I'm really glad that we got to do that.
- 33:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 33:57Speaker 4: I can't believe she's gone.
- 33:58Speaker 3: I know.
- 33:59Speaker 5: I just, I, it hasn't registered.
- 34:01Speaker 1: I don't think.
- 34:02Speaker 2: And it's like, well, my husband said, he's like, you
- 34:05Speaker 2: can't believe it. She was 80 or whatever. I'm like,
- 34:07Speaker 2: I know, but some people you think are going to
- 34:09Speaker 2: live forever.
- 34:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:10Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 34:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 34:12Speaker 4: She's a national treasure for sure.
- 34:15Speaker 5: Yes. She definitely is.
- 34:17Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
- 34:18Speaker 5: And so you recently hosted your first ever summer house
- 34:23Speaker 5: show and you brought a lot of artists together in
- 34:27Speaker 5: a much more intimate setting. And what made you want
- 34:31Speaker 5: to create something like that?
- 34:33Speaker 4: Well, you know what?
- 34:34Speaker 3: I just have so many friends in Nashville that are,
- 34:37Speaker 3: you know, new artists and we're all kind of doing
- 34:39Speaker 3: the same thing.
- 34:40Speaker 4: We're trying to book shows. We're trying to get our
- 34:42Speaker 4: names out there.
- 34:43Speaker 3: And I thought, if I've got a backyard that's big
- 34:46Speaker 3: enough to fit a bunch of people, I might as
- 34:47Speaker 3: well just invite all these friends over and we just.
- 34:50Speaker 4: Play for whoever shows up. So it was a real
- 34:54Speaker 4: house party. It really was.
- 34:56Speaker 3: I mean, I think everyone sang about four or five
- 34:59Speaker 3: songs and it was just a blast. There was no pressure.
- 35:02Speaker 3: We just had so much fun. But yeah, I've got
- 35:05Speaker 3: my next one scheduled for October 3rd and the flyers
- 35:09Speaker 3: on my Instagram.
- 35:10Speaker 4: If anyone is interested, come on over and jam out. Yeah,
- 35:13Speaker 4: it's so much fun.
- 35:14Speaker 2: Yeah, you're so hospitable because when we were there interviewing her,
- 35:17Speaker 2: she's like, you want to come back to our house?
- 35:19Speaker 2: And I was like, yes, I do.
- 35:21Speaker 3: I do.
- 35:22Speaker 2: I wish we had more time.
- 35:24Speaker 5: We do, but we didn't have time.
- 35:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 35:26Speaker 2: So that's great. We'll see you up on that for
- 35:29Speaker 2: next time.
- 35:30Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.
- 35:32Speaker 2: But that just shows the kind of person you are.
- 35:35Speaker 2: So that's great.
- 35:36Speaker 5: I love it.
- 35:36Speaker 2: Don't ever change, you know?
- 35:39Speaker 3: I always just, I think about, you know, when God says,
- 35:43Speaker 3: in the Bible, like to be a good steward of
- 35:45Speaker 3: whatever we have, you know? And so my, my mindset
- 35:49Speaker 3: is if I can just, you know, give away things
- 35:51Speaker 3: that I have and share as much as I can, then,
- 35:54Speaker 3: then hopefully I'll keep being in a position where I
- 35:57Speaker 3: do have these things to, you know, let others be involved.
- 36:00Speaker 3: And so that's just the heart behind it, but I
- 36:02Speaker 3: hope one day it doesn't bite me in.
- 36:03Speaker 4: The butt, you know, weirdos coming over, but we'll see.
- 36:08Speaker 4: We'll see.
- 36:08Speaker 2: It happens. It happens.
- 36:11Speaker 3: Sometimes.
- 36:12Speaker 5: Me and Lala are too nice.
- 36:15Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 36:16Speaker 2: And you learn, you live and learn. Then you tweak
- 36:18Speaker 2: things a little bit and you're like, all right, you know,
- 36:20Speaker 2: maybe we do some background checks.
- 36:22Speaker 4: That's right.
- 36:24Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 36:24Speaker 3: Exactly.
- 36:25Speaker 4: That's so real.
- 36:26Speaker 5: Do some social media investigation. Yeah.
- 36:29Speaker 2: Yeah. But yeah, you live and you learn and it's good.
- 36:32Speaker 2: You know, you're going to get burnt sometimes, but I
- 36:35Speaker 2: think that is, yeah. When I was younger, I used to,
- 36:38Speaker 2: or the teenager, I used to always give money to
- 36:40Speaker 2: the homeless and, No matter what, they come up to me.
- 36:43Speaker 2: And I remember my friends and my family saying, why
- 36:45Speaker 2: are you doing that? They're just going to buy alcohol.
- 36:47Speaker 2: They're just going to buy drugs. And I said, well,
- 36:50Speaker 2: in the off chance that they're not or that they
- 36:51Speaker 2: need food, I'm glad that I was able to provide,
- 36:54Speaker 2: you know, give them money. And that's how I think
- 36:56Speaker 2: I view things a lot, too, is, yeah, you're taking
- 36:58Speaker 2: a risk. You're taking a chance. But if your heart
- 37:00Speaker 2: is in the right place, I think that in the end,
- 37:02Speaker 2: you're blessed.
- 37:02Speaker 5: Remember the guy, you bought a taco and he threw
- 37:04Speaker 5: it out in front of you?
- 37:05Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, darn.
- 37:07Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 37:08Speaker 5: Want that?
- 37:09Speaker 2: I wanted money.
- 37:10Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 37:10Speaker 4: But you were hungry.
- 37:12Speaker 2: Your sign said you were hungry.
- 37:13Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 37:13Speaker 1: I bought you a taco.
- 37:16Speaker 4: That's so sad.
- 37:17Speaker 2: That's so sad.
- 37:18Speaker 4: But yeah, you did the right thing then.
- 37:19Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
- 37:21Speaker 5: And I like your sign behind you. Pray for no rain.
- 37:24Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
- 37:25Speaker 3: That was from the first house show. It was raining
- 37:27Speaker 3: all day. And I was like, I think we might
- 37:29Speaker 3: have to move this inside. And so I just, I
- 37:31Speaker 3: grabbed a piece of paper. I wrote, pray for no rain.
- 37:33Speaker 3: And the rain stayed away the whole night. So that's
- 37:35Speaker 3: my lucky sign. Yes.
- 37:36Speaker 2: Keep that next party.
- 37:39Speaker 4: That's right.
- 37:39Speaker 1: That's right.
- 37:40Speaker 5: You should just make copies of it and just send
- 37:42Speaker 5: it all over to us because.
- 37:44Speaker 4: We need it.
- 37:45Speaker 2: Yeah. It's been around every day.
- 37:46Speaker 5: Things like nonstop here.
- 37:49Speaker 1: Oh, no.
- 37:50Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 37:50Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 37:50Speaker 4: I'll send you guys a few.
- 37:52Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 37:53Speaker 3: Of course.
- 37:54Speaker 2: So I know you're already back to writing new music.
- 37:56Speaker 2: Do you feel like the Mary Claire writing these new
- 37:59Speaker 2: songs is different from the Mary Claire who wrote Enough?
- 38:04Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 38:04Speaker 3: I mean, I think with all the songs that I
- 38:07Speaker 3: wrote for that first album last year, I was pretty nervous.
- 38:12Speaker 4: Just to fail.
- 38:15Speaker 3: Or to be myself, there was just so many nerves.
- 38:17Speaker 3: And I didn't know how much I could be myself
- 38:20Speaker 3: without crossing the line. And I wanted to stay Christian,
- 38:23Speaker 3: but I love pop.
- 38:24Speaker 4: There were just so many things.
- 38:25Speaker 3: And so now I think I found more of a
- 38:28Speaker 3: sense of who I am and, um, I can be
- 38:31Speaker 3: more vulnerable now, uh, just in my lyrics and, and
- 38:34Speaker 3: my music. And so I'm excited for what's to come. Um,
- 38:37Speaker 3: cause I think it'll just be more me and more
- 38:40Speaker 3: open and confident. Yeah.
- 38:42Speaker 2: The real you like, you know, so that I find
- 38:45Speaker 2: that with a lot of artists that we do interview,
- 38:47Speaker 2: it's how they change from the beginning. It's trying to
- 38:50Speaker 2: fit into a mold and, and, and everyone's telling them
- 38:53Speaker 2: what to do, what to be, how to act. And
- 38:55Speaker 2: you're trying to fit. And then you get to the
- 38:57Speaker 2: point where you're like, no, no, this is not me
- 38:59Speaker 2: or this is not what I want. And then, then
- 39:02Speaker 2: everything starts to take off because they're authentic. The real
- 39:06Speaker 2: you comes out, you know?
- 39:07Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 39:08Speaker 5: I find that have found so many people are leaving
- 39:13Speaker 5: major labels and going and doing their own projects.
- 39:21Speaker 3: I mean, I think that artists just get tired of
- 39:24Speaker 3: having to run every idea by someone else or.
- 39:28Speaker 4: Getting ideas approved. I mean, artists are so creative.
- 39:31Speaker 3: They want to just be able to do what they
- 39:33Speaker 3: feel and what the inspiration is that day. And if
- 39:36Speaker 3: they constantly have to deal with someone else saying, I
- 39:39Speaker 3: don't think so, or not right now, or try this,
- 39:41Speaker 3: you know, we need you to fit this mold. I
- 39:43Speaker 3: think that just gets old. And so a lot of
- 39:46Speaker 3: artists are just deciding, Hey, as long as I have,
- 39:48Speaker 3: you know, content on social media that takes care of
- 39:51Speaker 3: 90% of the job.
- 39:53Speaker 4: So times are changing. Times are changing for sure.
- 39:55Speaker 1: Yes, they really are.
- 39:57Speaker 5: Now, are you on your own label or do you
- 39:59Speaker 5: have a label that you're assigned to?
- 40:01Speaker 4: Technically I am independent.
- 40:03Speaker 3: I'm an indie artist, but I do have like a
- 40:05Speaker 3: distribution company that helps with getting my music out there
- 40:09Speaker 3: to the world. But when it comes to like advertising
- 40:11Speaker 3: and all of that, that's, me so I've got help
- 40:14Speaker 3: I definitely feel support but I still get that freedom
- 40:17Speaker 3: to be independent.
- 40:18Speaker 5: And do what you want not yeah that's awesome so
- 40:22Speaker 5: that's that's a.
- 40:23Speaker 2: Good thing yeah so we read that you're you were
- 40:27Speaker 2: nominated for the new artist to watch in 2026 for
- 40:29Speaker 2: Christian Entertainment.
- 40:31Speaker 3: Yeah that was such a cool award it was um
- 40:36Speaker 3: it was earlier it was a few months ago and
- 40:39Speaker 3: I mean, just to be nominated for something as such
- 40:42Speaker 3: a new artist was so cool. I mean, we live
- 40:45Speaker 3: streamed the awards and they happen. The host just live
- 40:48Speaker 3: streams it. So it's not a real award show, but
- 40:51Speaker 3: it's it was live streamed. And I just remember me
- 40:54Speaker 3: and my family were sitting on the couch and I
- 40:56Speaker 3: knew that I wasn't going to win because I'm so new.
- 40:58Speaker 3: But just to, you know, see them say the nominees
- 41:01Speaker 3: and my picture popped up. I mean, first award to
- 41:03Speaker 3: be nominated for. It was so much fun, so much fun.
- 41:06Speaker 3: So it was a good experience.
- 41:07Speaker 5: That's, that's, that's really cool. Especially being a new artist,
- 41:11Speaker 5: you know, like how many other new artists do you
- 41:14Speaker 5: have to apply? I mean, I'm sure you, you do.
- 41:17Speaker 4: I think so. I'm not quite sure, but I'm, I mean, probably.
- 41:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 41:22Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 41:23Speaker 2: So where can our listeners find your music or check
- 41:26Speaker 2: out more about you?
- 41:28Speaker 4: On my website at Mary Claire music.com.
- 41:32Speaker 3: And then all of my social media, Instagram, Tik TOK, YouTube,
- 41:35Speaker 3: it's all Mary Claire music.
- 41:37Speaker 1: So.
- 41:37Speaker 4: It's same thing across the board. Mary Claire Music.
- 41:41Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Mary and Claire. It's been great
- 41:44Speaker 2: seeing you again. Like we said, we met her in
- 41:46Speaker 2: Nashville and she's a sweetheart, such a sweetheart. And you
- 41:49Speaker 2: feel like she's like that you've known us for years
- 41:52Speaker 2: when we met you that day. Like I said, inviting
- 41:54Speaker 2: us over, just talking to us like we were. friends
- 41:57Speaker 2: forever so don't don't ever change no matter how big
- 42:00Speaker 2: you get don't ever change that about yourself.
- 42:02Speaker 3: You got it it's so good to see you guys
- 42:05Speaker 3: and just hear your voices thank you so much for
- 42:07Speaker 3: talking to me again I'm just I'm so thankful for
- 42:09Speaker 3: our time.
- 42:10Speaker 1: And that's our show for this week thank you so
- 42:12Speaker 1: much for tuning in be sure to follow us at shaunaandlala.com
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- 42:22Speaker 1: me on instagram at therealshaunamay.
- 42:25Speaker 2: And check me out at Bella underscore Lala 125.
- 42:28Speaker 1: We will see you next week.