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- 0:03We're gonna cover all things tech boom, specifically to the
- 0:04northwest, 'cause it's booming.
- 0:04Yeah.
- 0:05Right?
- 0:05All things kinda AI, defense, tech, um- Space.
- 0:08And we're… Yeah, space.
- 0:09We're gonna walk through the deals going on, 'cause it's, it's significant.
- 0:13I'd say this is the most significant thing, I'd say, since the COVID boom.
- 0:16Yeah.
- 0:17Right?
- 0:17Yeah.
- 0:17It's interesting, we saw this kind of happen in San Francisco over
- 0:20the last- Yes … six to 12 months.
- 0:22So we figured, we usually lag those markets, so we figured this was
- 0:25coming, and now we're fully seeing it.
- 0:27I mean b- d- like overnight.
- 0:43Welcome to the Industrial Advisors podcast.
- 0:46Uh, you've got your hosts here, Matt McGregor and Kyle Beck.
- 0:49Welcome, Kyle.
- 0:50Thank you.
- 0:51Appreciate it.
- 0:51Uh, we're gonna cover all things tech boom, specifically to the
- 0:55northwest, 'cause it's booming.
- 0:56Yeah.
- 0:56Right?
- 0:57All things kinda AI, defense, tech.
- 0:59Um- Space … and we're, yeah, space.
- 1:01We're gonna walk through the deals going on, 'cause it's, it's significant.
- 1:05I'd say this is the most significant thing, I'd say, since the COVID boom.
- 1:08Yeah.
- 1:08Right?
- 1:09Yeah.
- 1:09It's interesting, we saw this kind of happen in San Francisco over the last- Yes
- 1:12… six to 12 months, so we figured we usually lag those markets, so we figured this was
- 1:17coming, and now we're fully seeing it.
- 1:18I mean b- d- like overnight, right?
- 1:20Quickly.
- 1:20Yeah, yeah.
- 1:21Crazy.
- 1:22Uh, well let's talk about the deals going on out there.
- 1:24Yeah.
- 1:25The first one I think is the most exciting and probably the newest
- 1:28one is Shield AI at Panattoni's Des Moines Creek West building.
- 1:32Finally announced this morning.
- 1:33Finally.
- 1:33'Cause everybody thought it was Anduril.
- 1:35Right.
- 1:35Right.
- 1:35For a long time everyone thought it was.
- 1:37This is- Including myself.
- 1:38Yeah.
- 1:38This is a super cool company.
- 1:40They leased the full building.
- 1:42Shield AI will be producing and manufacturing autonomous fighter jets,
- 1:47which will be about half the size of an F-35, so only 26 feet long.
- 1:51They'll take off and land vertically- It's crazy
- 1:53which is crazy, like a rocket ship, so you don't need a runway- Yeah … which
- 1:56changes the game in terms of warfare.
- 1:58They'll look to add an additional million square feet in our region
- 2:01over the next couple years, so they're gonna grow very, very quickly.
- 2:03I read they just raised about $2 billion in VC money, and they're valued at almost
- 2:0813 billion, so a big, big AI startup.
- 2:11And what's the hiring look like?
- 2:13'Cause they, they came here for labor.
- 2:14They looked at over a dozen site locations and came to Seattle
- 2:17because of our labor pool.
- 2:18Obviously with Boeing, Blue Origin here, SpaceX with a presence
- 2:22and a lot of space companies.
- 2:23They came here for that labor pool, and it's the reason they wanted to
- 2:26stay kinda near the Kent Valley, right?
- 2:28To tap that Blue Origin- Yep … and Boeing labor pool.
- 2:31I think I read it'll add about a 4,000 jobs im- almost immediately
- 2:34over the next couple years.
- 2:36Oof.
- 2:36And over the next 20 years, indirect and direct, could add over 25,000
- 2:40jobs over the next 20 years.
- 2:42So a huge impact to the market.
- 2:44I mean, this has to be the most significant, you know, job growth
- 2:47since we've had, probably since Blue Origin went down to Kent- Yeah
- 2:50you know, and exploded down there- No question … you know, 10 years ago.
- 2:53No question.
- 2:54Yeah.
- 2:54So, huge.
- 2:55And they expect the first jet to roll off the line in 2028, only two years-
- 2:59That's insane … down the road.
- 3:00And then kind of ramp up production by 2030.
- 3:03What a cool deal.
- 3:04Yeah.
- 3:04That's awesome.
- 3:04Really, really cool deal.
- 3:05Congratulations to Panattoni- Yeah … uh, knocking that deal out.
- 3:08Next one up, this one, uh, you know, a- as we all know, it's, it's rumor mill, right?
- 3:13This could be one and the same or it could be two deals, right?
- 3:16Yep.
- 3:17Kinda think it's one and the same.
- 3:18Yeah.
- 3:18But we understood there is another tech company that is taking down 400,000 feet
- 3:23in the, in the north part of the valley.
- 3:25We also heard Blue Origin's taking down 300,000 feet.
- 3:28This might be one and the same, right?
- 3:31Yeah.
- 3:31Yeah.
- 3:31Definitely could be, but an immediate deal.
- 3:33Yeah.
- 3:33Blue Origin's kinda pump-faked the market several times over the last three years.
- 3:37Right.
- 3:38This one looks like it's real.
- 3:39Yeah.
- 3:40Right?
- 3:40So another space-related deal.
- 3:41Yeah.
- 3:41So it's either 3 to 400,000.
- 3:44We think it's one deal.
- 3:45We think it's Blue Origin.
- 3:46We've got that from about three different sources, but there could be two deals.
- 3:50Yep.
- 3:50Yes.
- 3:51On, on that specific one.
- 3:52Yeah.
- 3:52And then the next one, uh, I think, uh, most people know about this one.
- 3:56Stoke A- A- what are they?
- 3:58Stoke Aerospace or what are they?
- 3:59Stoke Space.
- 3:59Space.
- 4:00Yep.
- 4:00Yeah.
- 4:00So the Pacific racetrack went up for sale recently.
- 4:05They have a interesting zoning code because the noise ordinance u- up there.
- 4:09Yep.
- 4:10Right?
- 4:10So they, whatever… I, I read this years ago, but, uh, they have very specific
- 4:15and unique zoning overlays related with the racetrack noise ordinances.
- 4:20So when they went out to market for this, they found Stoke, and I think
- 4:23they're interested in testing some sort of rocket launchers, right?
- 4:27Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 4:27When you say noise ordinance, you can be loud out there- Loud, yes … actually.
- 4:30Yes.
- 4:30Not, not quiet.
- 4:31'Cause it's rural.
- 4:32Right.
- 4:32Yeah.
- 4:32Right.
- 4:32It, it's north of Auburn, up by Highway 18 in, in, uh, unincorporated King County.
- 4:38Yeah, it sounds like they're gonna build a big bomber of a building up
- 4:41there, and then also test rockets, which will be a massive deal.
- 4:43Yeah.
- 4:44Do we know if the racetrack will continue, or is that gonna probably end?
- 4:47Yeah, I'm not sure.
- 4:48Okay.
- 4:48It's a good question.
- 4:49Yeah.
- 4:49So, uh, in any event, that's the rumor mill that we think
- 4:52they're gonna be up there.
- 4:53We think they're under contract, and we think they're gonna test very loud rockets
- 4:58up in unincorporated King County- Yeah … on the current- Pacific Raceways site.
- 5:03Uh, next- Ne- … we move to Everett.
- 5:05Yeah, we'll go to the north end and hit ano- yeah, another space company.
- 5:08Actually, a satellite company this time called Kupper, who already occupied about
- 5:12250,000 square feet up in that north end part of the market, but just took
- 5:16an additional 91,000 square feet with a pretty big office build-out, I think
- 5:19almost 10,000 square feet of office.
- 5:21So another, you know, satellite space company growing.
- 5:25Likely with that office count, I'm sure they're adding a good amount
- 5:28of jobs to that facility as well.
- 5:30So just more growth in that space sector that we're seeing.
- 5:32That's right.
- 5:33And then I think, uh, it's probably not the last one, but the last big
- 5:37one is, uh, it's called RAM, right?
- 5:39RAM, Project RAM.
- 5:41Yep.
- 5:41Project RAM is coming through the Economic Development Council of
- 5:46Pierce County, so they're leading it.
- 5:48It looks like they're in the immediate need of at least 150,000 square feet
- 5:52of space, but on 50 to 100 extra acres of land with a ton of power.
- 5:58Yeah.
- 5:59So that is a requirement that's been widely broadcasted.
- 6:03I think sites were due last Friday.
- 6:05Yep.
- 6:05It looks like they wanna be in Pierce County.
- 6:07Could be du- du- due to the power rates down there.
- 6:10Tacoma Power's, uh, you know, cheapest power in, in the region, right?
- 6:13Yeah.
- 6:14And so that could be a driving, uh, point.
- 6:16They won't have a lot of options, mostly if they wanna occupy and have that
- 6:19kinda significant, uh, yard area, right?
- 6:22Or n- whatever- Right.
- 6:23Whatever it is … what- whatever it is, drones, whatever it is.
- 6:26Uh, but a bi- it's gonna be a monster of a deal.
- 6:28Big deal, and their timing is Q3 of next year, which, you know,
- 6:31that's gonna be very hard to hit.
- 6:32Yeah.
- 6:32Especially with that power requirement.
- 6:34That's right.
- 6:34Pulling that much power, so we'll see if they actually hit that timing,
- 6:36but it's good to see that, you know, again, immediate investment wanting
- 6:40to be placed here in, in our region.
- 6:42Yeah.
- 6:42The one, uh, uh, going back that we skipped to, uh, moving into South
- 6:47Seattle, again, this is a little outside of aerospace, because all
- 6:51these other ones are robotics, aerospace, and- Kind of goes back to
- 6:54AI … yeah, but it does go back to AI.
- 6:55Yeah.
- 6:56Which is Waymo.
- 6:56Right.
- 6:57So Waymo is rumored to be taking down about 150,000 feet.
- 7:01I forget the size of that building.
- 7:02Yeah, 145.
- 7:03The new Emerald Building in South Seattle that Prologis built.
- 7:06Yeah, 145.
- 7:07145. Yep.
- 7:07So, uh, this would be, is it the kind of their, more of their service center?
- 7:12Exactly.
- 7:12Uh, yeah.
- 7:13Yeah.
- 7:13Cars maybe drive themselves down there if they need tire rep- you know, tire
- 7:16replacements, things like that, or maybe get towed down if they get into a wreck.
- 7:19Yeah.
- 7:19Um, but their service center.
- 7:20Rivian has a service center there in that same park, so a logical choice for Waymo.
- 7:24Yeah, yeah.
- 7:24I think it's a good location, easy access to highways there.
- 7:28I had heard, interestingly enough, yesterday, that they, uh, were looking
- 7:31at a building closer into the city, believe it or not, because there was
- 7:35so much transient activity around it.
- 7:38The programs for the cars were having a problem- Oh,
- 7:40interesting … because of campings and RVs and people walking around.
- 7:43And so it was i- interesting listening to, to that.
- 7:46But it makes sense to go down there.
- 7:48I think you have less of it there, and you're much closer to Highway access Yeah.
- 7:52Yeah, and from what we've heard, that'll be a great rate for the market.
- 7:55So ProLogis- Yeah, it'll be great … will do great there.
- 7:56Yeah, absolutely.
- 7:58But here's the crazy thing.
- 7:59I mean, if you look at this across the board, and there's probably
- 8:01more that we don't know, right?
- 8:03We've dug, right?
- 8:04Yeah, yeah.
- 8:04And just to throw it out, Cowboy Space obviously just took
- 8:06300,000 square feet- That's right
- 8:07another space deal in the Kent Valley.
- 8:09Yeah.
- 8:09But yeah, go on.
- 8:10W- okay, so if you look at all this, this has really been… I, I would say
- 8:15w- i- if you looked at this list six months ago, what would've been on here?
- 8:20Well, first of all, we wouldn't have recognized the names
- 8:22Cowboy Space, Shield AI.
- 8:24Stoke Space we know, but they're, they were smaller- Yes
- 8:26right?
- 8:27Yeah.
- 8:27In the Kent Valley.
- 8:27Waymo wasn't in our market.
- 8:29No.
- 8:29These are all new to market deals.
- 8:30Yes.
- 8:30And you would have more, you know, your, your typical distribution 3PLs, maybe
- 8:35some e-commerce users on this list.
- 8:37Yeah.
- 8:38So imagine, 'cause we heard, you know, when we were watching, you know,
- 8:41kind of the greater San Francisco market six months ago, and we were
- 8:44like, "Where are all the deals?"
- 8:45Imagine what this might look like in a few more months if we look at this and say,
- 8:50"All of these deals look imminent." Yeah.
- 8:53And none of them existed i- six months ago, maybe with the exception of Stoke.
- 8:58But Stoke, I think, came in because of an unique opportunity.
- 9:03Right.
- 9:03Right?
- 9:03And I think Waymo was in the market quietly, but- Yeah
- 9:05still it's a, it's a new- Yeah … to market deal.
- 9:07But the majority of this square footage wasn't on any paperwork-
- 9:11Right … six months ago.
- 9:12Yeah, no question.
- 9:13And the tech is moving so fast.
- 9:14I mean, who knows what's gonna be on this list in six months.
- 9:16That's right.
- 9:17Crazy.
- 9:17So.
- 9:18Crazy tech boom.
- 9:19We needed it.
- 9:20Yeah.
- 9:20Right?
- 9:20This will be a nice lift for our market, a welcome change, and, um,
- 9:25yeah, this is, uh, interesting times.
- 9:27Fun times, and yeah, we're looking forward to seeing what else happens.
- 9:30All right.
- 9:30Happy Friday.