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- speaker-0: We're born authentic. We didn't care what people thought. We just did what felt right. That authenticity still s is there. It's more like it's covered with layers of programming and conditioning over the years. How much am I really being myself on a daily basis? How much each day am I speaking even more from being truthful? The minute I took that flashlight and turned it one eighty towards myself. That's when things really started to not just change but transform. speaker-1: How can you trust your intuition and trust yourself to follow through on it? speaker-0: Choosing to ignore that is you basically ignoring the deeper part of you and I would question what's the price I pay for not following that. speaker-1: Today's guest is Linda Leonce. Linda is an authenticity coach and author who helps people question the fear and subconscious conditioning that makes it harder to hear what you actually want. In our conversation, we discuss how to tell the difference between fear and intuition, how to practice following small sparks of interest, how conditioning cover ups your authentic self, and what it costs to keep ignoring that part of you. If you get value from this conversation, be sure to subscribe and share it with a friend. And now please enjoy my conversation with Linda Leonce. Linda, thank you so much for being here. speaker-0: Thank you for having me, I appreciate it, Ian. speaker-1: Absolutely. So Linda, you talk about trusting the deeper signal within us rather than automatically just following our thoughts or the conditioning, the subconscious conditioning that we've picked up throughout our life. But in a real decision, right, like in the moment where you're deciding whether to leave your job, to start a business, make a decision within your business, or make a decision just in day to day life, fear can feel as strong and convincing as intuition. So how can somebody tell the difference between Their intuition and fear. speaker-0: I would say what's driving you like get curious about that. So let's say I have to leave this job or I can't work here an a day longer. Get curious practically, like, what is that about? Am I coming from just not wanting to be there? And if you boil it down, it's like a fear of being in an environment that just doesn't work for you or or being stuck somewhere that you don't want to be. Or if you boil it down, is it coming from this deeper part of you that's being driven or being led or passionate or just has that knowing that it wants to do something more meaningful. And once you're clear on that, you're clear on what's coming from basically your mind made sense of self, which is based in fear, or you're coming from alignment with the deeper part of you, the real self. That's not that talking commentary voice in our head. And I feel like once you're clear on which version of you is driving and making that decision, then you know where you're whether you're in alignment and making a decision from alignment. speaker-1: Mm-hmm. Are there common ways that, you know, fear based thoughts or fear based decisions kind of show up? Are there like common terms and language that a fear based decision might sound like or rhyme with versus ⁓ versus one coming from your intuition? speaker-0: Yeah. I would say things like what I just said, like, I can't stand being here any longer or you'll know that it's coming from fear because it won't feel abundant, it won't feel expansive, it'll feel like like you're believing something that's a story that's limiting. So like if I stay here, it's going to be blah blah blah and then I'll be stuck forever or blah blah blah. So it's just A story we're telling ourselves. However, if it's coming from the real you and it's expansive, it'll feel like a more like large feeling, like I can't wait to go see what's possible if I go do this thing that means so much to me. That feels big. That feels like, wow, who knows where that can go. But the limited version, it's it's like a story we're holding on to and it usually doesn't feel good. It feels like it's either this or that, you know? Either I stay here or I don't. speaker-1: Yeah. That makes sense. And it's as you were explaining that, an interesting idea came to me where it's like, you know, the intuition and the fear based interpretation might lead you to do the same thing. Like might l lead you to like both instances, if you listen to your intuition, if you listen to your fear, might both ultimately lend you to taking the action of leaving your job, for example. But if you follow your intuition versus following your fear, like the perception on what is gonna come after is gonna be completely different, which will the story will play out much differently from after you make the decision, right? After you make that choice, how you lead moving forward, which is a curious little little instance to to explore. But I guess maybe going back to something even more fundamental. Why do you believe it's so important to listen to that intuition, to find that intuition, to hear that part of you in your life? speaker-0: Well, yeah, I can speak to my own experience where when I didn't listen to that, I was basically following ideas of what I should be doing, what I was maybe obligated to do or expected to do. And when I was taking action from that place where I was following all these this ⁓ imaginary script of how life was supposed to go. It didn't feel like me. It didn't feel like it was coming from me. It felt like I was doing things based on an idea of what my life should be. And when you're doing things from the alignment, from the passion, from the intuition, it feels like you are making decisions that are coming from a deeper place that mean something to you that drive you regardless of whatever challenges might come your way. you're ready to face them head on and grow through them because you know it's through the challenges along the way perhaps of following that intuition that things you're constantly being led in a way that feels purposeful, meaningful, exciting, adventurous. And so to me those are two different ways of living life and taking action daily. speaker-1: I couldn't agree more. Like that intuition, like following that intuition is gonna lead you to a place that feels more natural to you, more expansive. It's gonna be more energetic. You're gonna show up more engaged. And you know, I've had small instances in my life, like little anecdotal moments in my life where I've listened to that intuition and I've followed it and it's led me to do things that just light me up and have led to some of my, you know, best performances or whatever that may be. And it's it's those moments And it it shows up in all aspects of life. Like I often use golf as an example. I'm a big golfer. But it is like that feel. It's like a very feely kind of sport. And as soon as you stop like thinking and worrying about like what could go wrong in the instance of this shot, right? You just allow that intuition to just kind of take over, like feel the swing and get out of your own cerebral, get out of your get out of your own head, ⁓ it leads to better outcomes. But in your experience, what can you do to allow yourself to hear that intuition? speaker-0: like to share something we can all play, like a little game you can play with ourselves. So if you have a day where you're not busy, where you don't have a lot to do, no work, why not take that day and when you wake up, start off the day with getting in touch with what feels exciting or passionate for you right then and there. So maybe you wake up, you're like, hmm feels good to go have a cup of coffee at this nice coffee shop. Go do that. And don't allow your mind to talk you out of it. Don't allow any excuses like I have other things. Like that's all mind-based stuff. Just follow that passion, that excitement for whatever it is. Go have the coffee and really enjoy yourself. Enjoy the experience. Then when you're done, what else feels good? What else feels exciting? And follow that. And I feel like if we l we spend a whole day living that way, following our excitement, following our passion, no matter what it is, if it's having coffee or writing or drawing or whatever, you get in touch with what it feels like to live from that passion, that spark, that inner like, aha, yes, this is for me. That's following our spark, our joy, our intuition. So I feel like once we taste that, we get to see and experience tangibly and practically. Maybe it's not like the life vision or mission, but it's the little things that we're getting in touch with that the real self wants to experience moment to moment. And I feel like that's a great doorway into living life from that state. speaker-1: Yeah, absolutely. It's a good opportunity to kind of flex that muscle, if you will, of using your intuition as like the the North Star of like guiding your day to day action. And I think there's an interesting balance to explore with that because if I imagine myself, you know, I like to think that I've I've made progress in this. But let's say just for my own comfort, I guess is the word that I'm finding. Like I I'd like to think that this isn't what it would be for me now, but let's just say me five years ago. I wake up on a Saturday and like if I'm deciding that that day I just want to do whatever it is that I want to do, that might not be the most, you know, healthy things or like productive things. And maybe those are just like the mind based, you know, fears ⁓ that I've been, you know, subconscious that I've subconsciously picked up. But like for me five years ago that might have looked like, okay, if I just wanna wake up and just do what I want to do today, I could have just spent all day watching YouTube. Like I guess is there a problem with that? Is there like a right or wrong? Is there a balance that you kinda have to to have with it or what is your how do you interpret that? speaker-0: Yeah, I would say check in, like is that genuinely what you wanna be doing? Maybe it's a s a period of time where you really wanna have rest and recharge and if it's coming from there, if it's like I'm not feeling like I'm avoiding myself and my passion, I'm not in a state of resistance to whatever it is ⁓ that means the most to me, if I genuinely feel like right now There's no spark for anything other than to just sit and watch T V. Then that's authentic and genuine. So why not? Just let go and not let the mind talk you out of it. Yeah. speaker-1: I love that. And this reminds me of I can't remember if it was in the book or not, but Naval Ravakant talks about this idea a lot and he uses this philosophy in how he raises his his children. I don't have kids, so I had up no idea what that looks like. But he he talks about he raises his kids. He just lets them do kind of like whatever they want to do. Right. Like he has one kid that literally does just watch YouTube all day. ⁓ he has another kid that just kind of, you know, is pursuing, you know, mathematics and like getting into that stuff because he just genuinely wants to do it. He just kind of like lets his kids go and do what they want and just be free in ⁓ in that pursuit and just following of the things that they want to do. Which is very different, right? It's very different and I think that's the point, right? Like it's different because the norms of society that we live in tell us that that's bad, that that's the wrong thing to do, that we should be optimizing and and striving for other things that isn't us living in alignment. It should be pursuing material, external success. So I guess like even in in me asking that question earlier, I was like, ⁓ I'm gonna give myself the comfort of like, 'cause this sounds so bad, like I probably shouldn't be doing that. But that's kind of a ⁓ symptom of the problem, right? Of ⁓ that tends to get in the way of us following that intuition on a day to day basis. speaker-0: Yeah. That's so true. Yeah. speaker-1: I love it. So let's say somebody takes that and they start to they have one day, right? They take one day where they just kinda let their intuition the things that they genuinely, authentically want to do, steer the ship for the day, right? Just kind of decide what it is that that they're gonna do ⁓ throughout that day. Are there things that they could look for, pay attention to that will give them signals of like, okay, maybe we could start to do more of this? Or kind of like what should they look out for in that day where they're just letting the intuition go? speaker-0: Yeah. maybe in that day if they wanna go deeper into it, have a journal with you and connect with or write down like what else. Maybe you have like two or three ideas, but you would choose one of them. So jot down all of the things that you feel that spark for, that joy. And I feel like the choices of what we do in those moments are It's like a feeling in the body of like, Wow, I can't wait to do this or I'm so excited. It's like your body you feel like a jolt of energy almost for passion for something, if that makes sense. So that's the excitement and the joy of the true self, right? And so get curious about what that feels like in your body, like where do you feel it? Like how does it show up and what situations, is it when I'm like really calm and relaxed? Or maybe I see something and then boom, I feel that jolt of energy. Like really get curious about the moments when that happens and just get in touch with it more and more, I would say, and really be aware on that day of how that whole experience is for you. So yeah, I love that question to go a little deeper into it. speaker-1: Yeah. So how do you like what was your journey to this realization? Because this is a concept, this idea of, you know, the spark within you tapping into your intuition or things that I've kind of picked up from different books and things and people that I've read. Like the most obvious example for me was this book, ⁓ Return to Love by Marion Williamson, which I've brought up seemingly on every podcast episode over the last couple of months since I picked it up. But like what was your journey to discovering this and finding this for yourself? speaker-0: Yeah, I would say in my twenties I was always like I I followed what I thought I should be doing. I went and I did the smart thing, I got the business degree and what I thought would be financially wise in terms of career. Meanwhile I minored in social psychology. So there was always this curiosity for the inner world, but I didn't feel like I could fully give that my attention and focus. and basically like do well financially, I guess, if I'm looking at it from back then. And so I was always drawn to wisdom teachers, teachings that really opened me up to things, especially along the lines of being present, not being in your mind, being here and now and noticing that voice in the head that never stops talking and seeing it for what it is, knowing we're not our thoughts, we're not our emotions, we're the awareness of it. So as I was through my twenties and thirties working towards all the promotions and doing great. And I was so grateful for my career, I always had that passion and curiosity. And I would say around twenty nineteen, I had an opportunity to go into a parenting and life coaching certification. And that was where I really allowed myself for the first time to invest in something that was deeply meaningful to me outside of the script of what I thought life was supposed to be like. Like these are the things you do in life. I chose something out of the norm where I didn't necessarily know how knew how it would turn out, but it felt exciting and I couldn't wait to see where it would lead. And so I feel like the minute I chose to do something along the lines of being authentic and what mattered to me and invest in it, that's when things started to shift. That's when I really got to see how I like the analogy of a flashlight. For most of my life, my flashlight was shining the light outside of me. So my career, raising my kids, finances, I was always focused on the outer world. The minute I took that flashlight and turned it 180 towards myself and allowed my awareness to shine the light on the inner world. on when I was getting triggered if something came up, on when I was feeling limited or stuck or like other people knew how to do things and I didn't. That's when things really started to not just change but transform because I was getting to the heart of how my life is being created. It's through the inner how I see myself, the identity that I'm holding on to. And once I put the focus there primarily and sort of allowed the outer world to be on backburner, but also take care of it. That's when everything really started to shift and become even more aligned and even more authentically me. speaker-1: Mm. Yeah. The first thing that you opened with, you know, what society would consider smart moves, you know, going to business school, getting that business degree. You know, you had that inkling of of passion with the psychology and the inner work, but you know, society places so much emphasis on make the right moves for financial reasons, right? Make the right money moves is another one of those things that we could maybe add to that list of how can you recognize whether you're making decisions based on like the mind based, like the fear based kind of ideas. I would say like if a if high up on your list for reasons you're doing something is because of the money, I think that's probably pretty disconnected from the intuition aut authentic version of yourself. It's like if you're making a decision based purely on money or this idea of should do something, I think that if any of your reasons rhyme with one of those two reasons, it's probably Coming from fear and from the mind-based thinking. Meanwhile, if it's just if it's more of a want, if it's more of a want or something that like excites you, you're looking forward to doing it, that's also a clear signal that it's something that you is more aligned with with the authentic version of you. Another idea that I'd love to explore with you a little bit is this idea of, you know, does everybody have this in them, right? Is this is this something that exists naturally, you know, within everybody? Like there is an authentic version of everyone in there kind of looking to come out. speaker-0: Yeah. Great question. I the way I see it is it's like we're born authentic. Like in those early years of childhood. We didn't care what people thought. We just did what felt right. We were so joyful. We would just like run to our parents, our loved ones, and just fall on them. Like we didn't care about personal boundaries. We were just connected to everything and everyone and just feeling worthy. Like we didn't feel like we were un unworthy. We We're embodying that. We were authentic. And what I like to describe it as is over the years, that authenticity still s is there. It's more like it's covered with layers of programming and conditioning over the years. So it happens through childhood with how we're raised, how we're our schooling is, the society, the culture we live in. And so the layers of conditioning and programming just kinda Cover up what's already there, but it's never not there. It's always there. It's like layers on top of the diamond that's already there. And so I feel like if we get to a point where it's enough pain, enough struggle, enough feeling of being disconnected from ourselves, then that's when we really start to do the work to transform, to remove the layers and the conditioning. And that's when we start to bring ourselves back into or just get more back into touch with our authentic self which is always there. It's never not there. speaker-1: I couldn't agree more, right? The authentic version of you has always been there, will always be there. And the process of finding and uncovering it is more of an unlearning process than it is a learning or discovery process, right? It's there for you to find. It's but you have to kind of strip away the things that you've picked up over the years that have strayed you off that course. Right. This again rhymes with a lot of the conversations that we've had recently. And I've you know, I'm sixty episodes into this podcast and it's really interesting to kind of see how the the conversation themes start to kind of weave together and it's almost like there's kind of ⁓ flows of narratives that kind of go for two weeks at a time. It's very interesting. And like one of those narratives and the conversation themes that have weaved together over the last couple of weeks is this idea where if you set this incentive, right? I've had a lot of conversations about purpose and trying to find your authentic self just 'cause it's something that I'm curious and trying to find for myself. And I know it's the most important question that you can ask and and ⁓ search of your life, I guess. But anyways, this idea that if your incentive for life, like what you're optimizing everything for, is for dollars, that is going to steer you off course, right? It's going turn you into a sheep that just, you know, it's not going to bring you closer to who you are authentically. So then we've been exploring this question in the last few conversations of okay, if optimizing everything in your life for money And that is your incentive that you make every decision in service of, right? The pursuit of more and more dollars steers you off course. What is that incentive, that thing that you can optimize for, strive for, that if you set that as your incentive or what you're optimizing for, you make decisions in service of to bring you closer to who you are authentically. Like what is that alternative to dollars that you could, you know, use to measure the success of of how closer you're getting to yourself? If if that question makes sense. speaker-0: Yeah, it does. I would say the measure is from my own experiences, like how much am I really being myself on a daily basis? How much each day am I speaking even more from being truthful, from saying yes when it's really yes and no when it's really no, telling people what you really want and being clear about it and not feeling like you have to hold back or hesitate or just care what anyone thinks. Feeling like your passion matters to you and is worth putting full frontal above all else, above anything else in life, how much deeper into authenticity I can go on a daily basis. And to me, when I keep that as the primary focus, a byproduct of that is everything that I'm wanting in the outer world in terms of better relationships, wealth, all of that. speaker-1: Just comes naturally, right? Because it's the like that energy that comes from living from that divine spark within you is the the purest of energy, right? And it's the the I'm trying to think of the term I don't know enough enough about like fuel types to know like that's like the best energy source, right? If you're operating from that as like your gas tank. Yeah, the cleanest energy, exactly for sure. Where it's gonna make it easy to 'Cause you you want to do these things. So it's gonna make it easy to do the things required in order to kind of move things forward and and have that success. I love that. Thank you for contributing to that conversation. I think the closest thing that we had gotten so far to this point, everything that you said rhymed very much with this idea of, okay, instead of counting how many dollars you've made, 'cause that incentive steers you off course, it's the idea of counting like how many people have you served, like how many people have you helped, counting that as the incentive, like what you're optimizing for, because if you are operating from a place of authentic you, you're going to be able to serve and impact and help more people because what you're doing is a again, like you care a lot more about it. I'm not sure. Definitely a question that we'll continue to explore here. Yeah. speaker-0: I guess what I would add is like even that becomes a by product of authenticity. It's like if I'm focused on being the best version of myself and measuring that as my primary criteria for success, then naturally I feel the right clients will come effortlessly, the right finances, all of it. It's it's kinda like the driving force, the authenticity. speaker-1: It's pretty cool. I love it. So in your earlier like a few moments ago, you you brought up this idea of worthy, right? Like I'm not maybe that like somebody might consider like they're not worthy for for certain things. So where does this idea of being worthy come into the equation and come into the process of of trying to live this authentic self, right? Like maybe somebody just doesn't think like I'm not worthy of these things. Like where does that idea come into play? Where does it come from, too? speaker-0: Yeah. I would question it, like what part of you feels like it's not worthy? Where is that coming from? Is it the real you? Can the real you even be unworthy? Or is that just more of that mind made, lack based sense of self, just yammering away again saying, Hey, I don't feel worthy? Question it. Who who feels unworthy? That's is that even me? And do I want to even believe that story, right? speaker-1: Yeah. Absolutely. And ⁓ I think, you know, that people call it imposter syndrome. But there's another great quote from this book of ⁓ like it's almost like a fear of like this quote, right, is our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. Where it's like almost scary to like see ourselves as doing those big things, those big authentic things that we dream of doing. that we feel called to do, it just feels like scary. It's like Am I really that big, that powerful, like that capable? Like it's a scary idea. speaker-0: Hmm. Again I would go back to who feels scared? What part of me feels scared because are you really scared? Who's scared? I don't know. Right. speaker-1: Yeah, I agree. And it's just kind of getting out of your own way and again it's that unlearning from that these things that we've picked up subconsciously through living in the society and culture that we do. And this is one question that I really haven't had the ⁓ I don't know, I didn't want to get too on the toes or on the on my front foot with asking this question, but like it feels like there's so much about the way society has been set up. And our culture, like what we optimize for, what we incentivize, what we all really care about, that is just so disconnected from, you know, what we are innately, right, as humans. Like this idea of just like material money. So like, why do you think society was kind of dis like, do you think that society was intentionally designed this way to kind of install this, like program us in this way? Or do you think it just kind of came as like a natural byproduct of like the incentive structures that were created through capitalism. ⁓ and like the different I know that that's a big question. speaker-0: Yeah, I yeah, I can't say I know exactly. But I do appreciate the question. I I honestly don't know. Yeah. Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah, big question. So what else do you see are some of those things that we can just kind of pick up subconsciously for those that live in, you know, the Western world? What are those things that we can kind of just pick up subconsciously through living and growing in this society, in this culture that might be those things that we might need to unlearn? So we talked a lot about this idea of, you know, material success, money. Are there any other things that that you've noticed frequently that are those things that kind of need to be unlearned, investigated more seriously for each individual? speaker-0: Yeah, it's just unlearning like at the core of it, feeling unworthy, right? And feeling not good enough. At the heart it's like we feel this like other people know more than I do or other people can do it better. Or maybe it's the opposite, like we feel like this sense of superiority. That's also ego. That's also that mind mate sensor self. So yeah, just getting curious and having a healthy or more aware relationship with ourselves. Yeah, I think that goes a long way. Cool. speaker-1: So I think I can definitely recognize a few things that I know. Like you your story from college sounds a lot like mine. Like I studied business marketing in school and I minored in philosophy. And philosophy was this thing that I studied in school that I just fell in love with the first day. I was the classic cliche college kid showing up to college, taking philosophy one on one and being like, This is all I wanna do. I just wanna think about these things. And talk about these ideas. But then like the finite the idea of like, well, how am I gonna make money doing that kind of got in the way. So I think everybody can recognize a few of those things that we noticed like lit us up that we're just excited to do. Like I love just talking to people about engaging difficult ideas, kind of like finding the like walking through and trying to find the balance of the nuance of like complicated subjects and ideas and just Interesting conversations, like it's my favorite thing to do. So I love doing this podcast for for that reason. But I would imagine that everybody can probably recognize a few things in their life that they've done that that just light them up, but they kind of disregard it as something that it's hey, I can't make money doing that. Would you agree with that idea that most people have like something that they could recognize? speaker-0: Yeah, or maybe like something when they were a kid that they could spend hours doing but they discounted it along the way, felt like, Well, I can't really make that into something a career, you know? Yeah. speaker-1: And I think ⁓ that's like one of the beautiful parts about the world that we live in today, that you can really make money doing absolutely anything. Like and I think that's another idea from Naval Rabakant that the internet democratizes consumption, but it makes if you're the best in the world at doing a certain thing, you can do it for absolutely everybody. Right. And I think that there is every individual is ⁓ you know, uniquely qualified to be the best version at something like themselves, for example. You're you're uniquely qualified to be the best in the world at being yourself and you have something unique and amazing to bring to the world and contribute to the world and that's another part and listeners will recognize this idea as something that I've brought up many times before of I like the optimistic side of me is very excited about this transition that we're going through of AI is going to, I think, force a lot of people to have to figure out how to create their own value for the world. Right. Like a c like job loss, right? Like More people are going to be put in situations where they have to figure it out on their own. Right. And think a big part of that is going to be people having to figure out like what is like what can I do? Like what do I want to do? What can I do sustainably over time to bring to the world? So I'm excited about what that future might look like. And I think the work that you're doing, conversation that we're having, the questions that we're asking, the ability to list like hear your intuition and trust yourself enough to be able to follow through on that is a big part of of figuring that out. And I guess maybe that's a that's a good next question is is there a challenge? Like I know I can experience this. Like I hear my intuition and it it wants me to do these things, but it's hard for me to like trust that part of myself. Like how can you kind of get over that? How can you trust your intuition and like trust yourself to follow through on it? speaker-0: least from the way it was for me, you get to a point where you know like that is the way forward. Not trusting that, not being in alignment with that, choosing to ignore that is you basically ignoring the deeper part of you and I mean you can keep going in that old script way of scripted way of following how life should be, but is that really bringing you joy? Making you feel alive, passionate about life. So I would question what's the price I pay for not following that, you know? Yeah. speaker-1: Right. Yeah. As with so many things, in life, if you just intentionally take this idea, this belief that you have, and then just think about it a little bit more critically, which is the value of working with somebody like yourself through this process, is in working with somebody like you, you can slow things down, question those ideas, those beliefs that we just kinda take as like we don't even consider, like we don't even think about. ⁓ and kind of holding them up to the light and being like, Is this Real? Is this like really serving you? Where is this coming from? Like is there actually any validity to this? And you know, it's a another one of those things that comes from the mind mindfulness practice that anybody who practices mindfulness will recognize the idea of as soon as you become aware of something, it just falls away, right? Like you you notice the thought, you notice the emotion, you notice this thing, you hear this thing and it you can just see that it, you know, just kind of passes away the moment that you kind of bring it into awareness. It's the same thing with these beliefs that can Can get in the way sometimes. speaker-0: Yeah, well said. Yeah. speaker-1: I love it. Linda, thank you so much for the time. I have one final question for you. It's a recurring question I ask every guest, but before I get to that, how can people find you? speaker-0: Yeah, sure. So ⁓ the website is livefromyourtruth.com. There you can find ways to message me. If you'd like to meet one on one, I would love to connect with anyone that feels a resonance and in alignment with the things that I'm sharing and work that I do. There's also the book there, ⁓ Inside Out Creation. So yeah, multiple ways to connect and ⁓ look forward to speaking with anyone that's interested. speaker-1: Love it. We'll have the links to everything in the description. ⁓ definitely go check that out. If anything that we talked about resonated with you or you want some, you know, initial guidance and just kinda how to get started on this process of finding the authentic version of yourself, which again I think is probably the most important pursuit that you could have. Not to put any ⁓ like subconscious beliefs on top of everything, but yeah, go go check out ⁓ Linda's work. But Linda, my final question for you is if you had a giant billboard That everyone in the world could see for ten seconds with like one message that you wanted to say to the world, what would it say and why? speaker-0: Yeah, I love it. I would say the minute we really get and let it land that going back to the flashlight analogy, when we stop focusing so much on the career, the parenting, the relationships, the finances, all the outer, the minute we put that a little bit on the back burner and put the focus on ourselves and really just like you said, just become aware of what's going on inside. That alone can start to transform a lot of the feelings of not maybe feeling stuck, feeling disconnected. So I feel like if we really let that sink in, then things can really start to shift if we're open to and ready for it. speaker-1: Amazing. Linda, thank you so much for the time. speaker-0: You're welcome. Thank you for having me. speaker-1: Thank you for listening. The main thing that I'm taking away from Linda, my conversation with Linda, is the fact that I cannot always think my way into certainty, if really ever. Like I don't think there's many situations where you can just fully think your way into being certain about a thing. But my gut instinct is when I am unsure is to stay in my head and keep looking for enough reasons to make the decision feel safe and like give me enough to to make the decision. But I think that comes down to like the willingness to act and move without having full confidence or full information, I suppose, just comes down to getting over the fear, I guess, of what other people think in a lot of different situations. Then also realizing that most decisions are what Jeff Bezos calls two way doors, where it's like, Okay, if I go and try something, if we go and make some decision, typically you can kind of walk it back. Like it's not the end of the world if you end up being wrong. So Just trying to be more intentional about those two things and realizing that success rewards action, if that's not too much of a cliche or a buzzword, but you know, nothing's gonna get done if I just sit here and keep thinking about doing stuff. You know, you gotta actually get out there and start doing things. And then that doing of stuff will breed the best information that I could ever use. Right. So having that information that comes from evidence of action, that's gonna be the most useful information that I could get from Instead of just like, you know, chatting with AI or just sitting here and thinking about it. So thank you for that, Linda. ⁓ if you want to get connected with Linda and you want your anything that we talked about resonated, you want help kind of finding your authentic self, I encourage you to check out Linda and her website. You can find the link to her book and website in the description. And if you're an author, coach, or course creator and you want to make it easier for your clients to engage with your ideas and apply your methodology and get results, download the free program execution system toolkit in the description. It'll show you how to install what I call execution infrastructure through building out a library of AI guides for your program, which will help your clients follow through and get results. Thank you for listening, and I'll see you in the next one.