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[13/25] The Flight of the Garuda — Session 11 (May 2021) · Lama Lena Teachings

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SPEAKER_00: You are life.
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SPEAKER_01: Good morning.
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SPEAKER_01: I think we're somewhere in the middle of chapter 10.
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SPEAKER_01: Is that what you think?
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SPEAKER_01: While I do the preliminary and beginning prayers,
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SPEAKER_01: mon lam, somebody type in where they think we are.
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SPEAKER_01: That will help.
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SPEAKER_01: Shukku kunduzong po gompo yin dorji sempa gyarab dorji dang.
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SPEAKER_01: Shere singgibharjushin lapdi, dedong lapsam tata tu sum chi.
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SPEAKER_01: Zogchen jupay lama la sol wa deb.
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SPEAKER_01: Urgyan pema juni la sol wa deb.
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SPEAKER_01: Dorjichang,
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SPEAKER_01: Citilu Narodang,
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SPEAKER_01: Marpa Milagompo Tsatsapa,
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SPEAKER_01: Na Pupadang, Palden Drupadsog, Ka Gyo Lama Namla Solvade,
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SPEAKER_01: Ochen Lama Namla Solvade,
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SPEAKER_01: Drupchen Lama Namla Sol Vadebh,
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SPEAKER_01: Kaginwate Lama Namla Sol Vadebh,
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SPEAKER_01: Sakya Lama Namla Sol Vadebh,
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SPEAKER_01: Nyan Du Dang Yantran Lama Namla Sol Vah Deva.
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SPEAKER_01: Al Kwan Du Joong Dang Yer Me Pa,
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SPEAKER_01: Gan Garap Dwarji Jintrat Pa, Jethi Dang Nisume Pa Vahyi,
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SPEAKER_01: Palamanam Chetante,
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SPEAKER_01: Chong.
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SPEAKER_01: Mind.
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SPEAKER_01: Very little word for a very big knot thing.
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SPEAKER_01: Almost a catch-all.
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SPEAKER_01: For the whereabouts of thoughts,
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SPEAKER_01: feelings,
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SPEAKER_01: and perceptions,
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SPEAKER_01: which obviously arise in mind and disperse in mind,
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SPEAKER_01: and also obviously,
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SPEAKER_01: if you examine them carefully, have neither substance nor duration.
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SPEAKER_01: Did you find anyone answer my question?
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SPEAKER_00: Best guess is end of chapter 10, beginning of 11.
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SPEAKER_01: And you have to realize just how big,
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SPEAKER_01: how...
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SPEAKER_01: Vast beyond your ability to conceptualize.
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SPEAKER_01: We only actually count up to three.
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SPEAKER_01: One, two, three, many.
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SPEAKER_01: The rest is learned, is intellectual, but is not intuitive.
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SPEAKER_01: Really, it's bigger than three.
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SPEAKER_01: It is said in the scriptures that the three dimensions of microcosmic world systems
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SPEAKER_01: of suffering beings,
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SPEAKER_01: samsaric beings,
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SPEAKER_01: exist in a single speck of pollen on a pistil of the lotus that St.
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SPEAKER_01: Mountain Lake Muni Hamavastara holds in his hand in the macrocosm.
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SPEAKER_01: Smaller and bigger are a direction you can go in.
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SPEAKER_01: Just another dimension.
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SPEAKER_01: The scriptures also assert that when a yogin is adept on the path
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SPEAKER_01: of immediate crossing and has fully potentialized his vision of reality
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SPEAKER_01: as total presence,
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SPEAKER_01: The perception is of boundless Buddha fields and also boundless fields of residents
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SPEAKER_01: of sentient beings of the six types in each and every pore of the body.
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SPEAKER_01: Into each of the six realms, one projects emanations to transform the different beings.
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SPEAKER_01: And the ultimate purpose of all those beings is served as in a dream.
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SPEAKER_01: To experience this directly as an experience,
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SPEAKER_01: which you will not be able to remember all of because it won't fit into
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SPEAKER_01: a homosapien nervous system,
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SPEAKER_01: not without considerable changes that you have not made yet.
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SPEAKER_01: But to experience this, join me in the dream time.
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SPEAKER_01: I'll show you and take a trip up into macro and micro.
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SPEAKER_01: Can see
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SPEAKER_01: the body as a vast ecology of bits.
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SPEAKER_01: And no one there.
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SPEAKER_01: And there is no thing such as mind you will notice.
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SPEAKER_01: Not thing.
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SPEAKER_01: Not solid.
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SPEAKER_01: The difference between here and dreamtime
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe not so much.
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SPEAKER_01: You're still in both, limited by what you think you can do.
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SPEAKER_01: And if in a dream you think you can fly, fly you do.
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SPEAKER_01: Here, occasionally people have taken drugs to find that they think they can fly
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SPEAKER_01: and done themselves a serious mischief by stepping out the window.
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SPEAKER_00: Because you see, they think they're alone.
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SPEAKER_01: They think that the reality is spun by themselves alone as if they were an entity.
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SPEAKER_01: And if you look carefully, you will notice that we're all in this together.
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SPEAKER_01: You must understand the nature of mind from the beginning.
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SPEAKER_01: Is like that of space.
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SPEAKER_01: Not a thing, but an absence of thing.
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SPEAKER_01: Not even an absence of thing, for it contains the thing.
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SPEAKER_01: Space.
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SPEAKER_01: Nauka.
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SPEAKER_01: Empty space.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, there's air molecules in the atmosphere.
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SPEAKER_01: But in between them.
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SPEAKER_01: Space.
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SPEAKER_01: And all things occupy space.
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SPEAKER_01: That is the nature of thingness.
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SPEAKER_01: If it's a thing, it's going to occupy some amount of space.
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SPEAKER_01: Have form, matter, thoughts, feelings, perceptions.
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SPEAKER_01: Do not occupy space.
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SPEAKER_01: When you do the inner mind rushen as a practice to facilitate your being able
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SPEAKER_01: to perceive and receive the pointing out,
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SPEAKER_01: you will find in seeking your mind that there is no thing to be found.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's often for people after a great deal of seeking
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SPEAKER_01: Before they can actually come to the perception of no thing.
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SPEAKER_01: Mind you, the perception of no thing is not no thing.
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SPEAKER_01: It is a perception.
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SPEAKER_01: But it's some place to start.
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SPEAKER_01: You can't stabilize a perception.
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SPEAKER_01: Perceptions are moving.
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SPEAKER_01: They come and go,
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SPEAKER_01: they change,
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SPEAKER_01: look over there,
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SPEAKER_01: perceive one set of things, look over here, perceive another set of things.
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SPEAKER_01: Perceptions are simply sensations in your sixth sense organs
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SPEAKER_01: combined
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SPEAKER_01: with automatic descriptions of what those sensations mean.
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SPEAKER_01: They now have the ability To give hearing to many deaf people.
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SPEAKER_01: However,
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SPEAKER_01: not all choose to have it done because the amount of effort to retrain
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SPEAKER_01: and relearn how to interpret sound once you have the sensation of sound
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SPEAKER_01: as language is years worth of work.
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SPEAKER_01: You don't automatically understand sound.
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SPEAKER_01: When you first perceive it, you learn that.
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SPEAKER_01: The same with sight.
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SPEAKER_01: You learn to interpret this set of colors and shape as a small cream picture.
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SPEAKER_01: Without that learning, you don't interpret that.
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SPEAKER_01: When the Tibetans were fresh out of Tibet,
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SPEAKER_01: which was a vastly different culture,
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SPEAKER_01: many things occurred that they were unable to interpret.
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SPEAKER_01: They couldn't see photographs.
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SPEAKER_01: You could show a person a photograph of their brother and they could not parse
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SPEAKER_01: the blotches of color and shape in that flatness as an image of a human being.
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SPEAKER_01: So what we had to do in those days So that we could see a photo if we had one is
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SPEAKER_01: to roll up a piece of paper, shut one eye and look at the photo through it.
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SPEAKER_01: Look at the world through it.
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SPEAKER_01: It makes everything flat and singular.
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SPEAKER_01: And then look at the photo through it,
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SPEAKER_01: not seeing the surrounding at all,
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SPEAKER_01: just the photo as if you're looking through a tube at a reality.
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SPEAKER_01: And that way, some people were able to perceive photos.
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SPEAKER_01: Many other things occurred.
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SPEAKER_01: One time I had a friend from the cave up the way come to me.
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SPEAKER_01: There had been a Westerner making retreat,
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SPEAKER_01: Frenchman,
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SPEAKER_01: in a cave near to her cave and she came running down to my cave one morning going,
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SPEAKER_01: Lena, Lena, the Westerner has gone mad and I'm terrified.
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SPEAKER_01: I said, Oh, well, Westerners do go mad in retreat.
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SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
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SPEAKER_01: What's he doing that leads you to believe he's gone mad?
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SPEAKER_01: He's waving his arms around in the air and jumping about and grunting like a pig.
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SPEAKER_01: So here I'm thinking, what is completely normal for a French person?
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SPEAKER_01: That that would be the interpretation on perceiving it that a Tibetan would have.
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SPEAKER_01: Can you think of anything?
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SPEAKER_01: I couldn't think of anything.
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SPEAKER_01: I said, I gotta see this.
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SPEAKER_01: So I followed her back up.
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SPEAKER_01: She's sort of hiding behind me because, I mean, he's a big guy and she thinks he's gone mad.
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SPEAKER_01: And there I see in front of his cave a young Frenchman doing calisthenics
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SPEAKER_01: and counting in French.
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SPEAKER_01: Un, deux, trois.
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SPEAKER_01: And to a Tibetan, he was jumping around waving his arms in the air and grunting like a pig.
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SPEAKER_01: Exercise for the sake of health is not known in that culture
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SPEAKER_01: because just surviving provides quite sufficient exercise.
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SPEAKER_01: Once I actually managed to scrape myself off the ground,
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SPEAKER_01: into which I'd fallen in laughter when I saw this,
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SPEAKER_01: now she thought it was contagious and I'd flipped too,
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SPEAKER_01: and explained to her what he was doing,
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SPEAKER_01: she suggested that instead of wasting his breath,
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SPEAKER_01: waving his arms in the air and grunting like a pig for his health,
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SPEAKER_01: he could go down to the spring and bring her a jerry can of water.
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SPEAKER_01: I suggested this to him and in fact he did and found it altogether too much exercise.
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SPEAKER_01: Interpretations.
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SPEAKER_01: You walk through a world made of your own interpretations and
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SPEAKER_01: when you have trained your mind sufficiently to focus attention where you choose,
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SPEAKER_01: You can change your reality somewhat
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SPEAKER_01: by changing your interpretation.
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SPEAKER_01: But since we're all in this together,
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SPEAKER_01: all the other people are holding realities that they believe in too.
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SPEAKER_01: And to go against them is difficult.
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SPEAKER_01: Doable.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, look at Trump.
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SPEAKER_01: Idiot entertainer managed to convince everybody he was a president.
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SPEAKER_01: Almost managed to convince everybody he was still a president even after having lost
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SPEAKER_01: the election.
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SPEAKER_01: Came close, convinced about 35, 40% of the people of that.
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SPEAKER_01: If he'd convinced more than 50% of the people of that, He might have been able to make it so.
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SPEAKER_01: Scary thought, isn't it?
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SPEAKER_01: This is why, at least in America, we do ceremonies during elections, as well as voting.
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SPEAKER_01: Look at your mind.
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SPEAKER_01: This is not you
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SPEAKER_01: looking at your mind.
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SPEAKER_01: This is mind-mind looking where your mind directly
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SPEAKER_00: perceives itself.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's a perception.
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SPEAKER_01: No, it won't stabilize, but it's a beginning.
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SPEAKER_01: Start there.
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SPEAKER_01: You've got to start somewhere.
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SPEAKER_01: Sometimes Before you can even have such a perception, you have to start with a feeling.
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SPEAKER_01: So you, instead of intellectualizing,
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SPEAKER_01: which you've been doing all your life
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SPEAKER_01: to overage all you overeducated literate folks,
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SPEAKER_01: instead of that, and in fact, in order to control your mind, we have to change.
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SPEAKER_01: A certain wiring that we created when we became literate.
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SPEAKER_01: We have to shift that.
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SPEAKER_01: That's why sometimes it's easier to teach a cowherd to see mind with mind than
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SPEAKER_01: a Westerner who has been through,
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SPEAKER_01: oh, the whole gamut of the many years of literate education.
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SPEAKER_01: It doesn't mean become illiterate or that that is better, just different.
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SPEAKER_01: So you
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SPEAKER_01: have to set down your intellect as a tool and pick up your feelings as a tool
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SPEAKER_01: and feel around for where your thoughts are happening.
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SPEAKER_01: Don't try to think around for where you think they're happening.
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SPEAKER_01: Nuh-uh.
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SPEAKER_01: Won't work.
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SPEAKER_01: Feel for it.
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SPEAKER_01: Not what you are thinking.
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SPEAKER_01: Doesn't matter.
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SPEAKER_01: Think of a shoe.
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SPEAKER_01: Think of a persimmon.
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SPEAKER_01: Anything.
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SPEAKER_01: Where those thoughts are occurring.
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SPEAKER_01: And if you find a specific place,
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SPEAKER_01: You are in error, keep looking.
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SPEAKER_01: Mind, mind looking is mind looking at itself.
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SPEAKER_01: It is an empty mirror reflecting itself.
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SPEAKER_01: It is the key
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SPEAKER_01: to opening up an entire universe of magical phenomena.
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SPEAKER_01: Dzogchen, Chagchen.
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SPEAKER_01: The mind like an artist.
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SPEAKER_01: Creates the body and all the many worlds existing in the three dimensions
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SPEAKER_01: of microcosmic world systems, all drawn by mind.
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SPEAKER_01: But mind is neither singular nor multiple.
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SPEAKER_01: Mind.
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SPEAKER_01: Neither one nor many.
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SPEAKER_01: Your personality is not it.
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SPEAKER_01: Keep looking.
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SPEAKER_01: It is of crucial importance to cultivate absolute conviction
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SPEAKER_01: that all things are illusory magical displays of the mind.
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SPEAKER_01: You will not cultivate absolute conviction by reading books about it.
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SPEAKER_01: Books lie.
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SPEAKER_01: You will not Create absolute conviction by Googling it.
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SPEAKER_01: Nobody believes everything they read on the internet.
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SPEAKER_01: Good Lord.
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SPEAKER_01: It is only by repeated personal experience that you will develop a certainty
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SPEAKER_01: beyond conscious thought, like your certainty in the
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SPEAKER_00: law of gravity.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, you intellectually understand a 32 feet per minute square
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SPEAKER_01: object falls in
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SPEAKER_01: the gravity of this planet, that it varies from planet to planet.
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SPEAKER_01: Sure, you intellectually understand all of that.
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SPEAKER_01: But even before you learned that in fourth grade physics,
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SPEAKER_01: you knew
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SPEAKER_01: That in order to walk across the room, you learned this in your first year or two of life.
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SPEAKER_01: In order to walk across the room,
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SPEAKER_01: you lift up one foot,
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SPEAKER_01: stick it in front of the other one and lean towards it,
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SPEAKER_01: allowing gravity to bring it down and shift your weight to the front foot,
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SPEAKER_01: lifting the back foot and bringing it forward.
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SPEAKER_01: That's how you walk.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah?
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SPEAKER_01: Go on, get up and walk around for a moment.
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SPEAKER_01: Look at how you do it.
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SPEAKER_01: You are utterly certain and relying on gravity without thinking about it.
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SPEAKER_01: And since we signed on here,
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SPEAKER_01: not a single one of you has been worried about drifting off and bumping your head on
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SPEAKER_01: the ceiling.
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SPEAKER_01: You're sure.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the sure I'm talking about.
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SPEAKER_01: That kind of sure.
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SPEAKER_01: That all things,
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SPEAKER_01: all phenomena,
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SPEAKER_01: both inner and outer,
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SPEAKER_01: thoughts,
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SPEAKER_01: feelings,
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SPEAKER_01: and perceptions
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SPEAKER_01: arise in mind and dissolve in mind and have never been under
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the mind.
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SPEAKER_01: This conviction, certainty, below intellect,
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SPEAKER_01: is the key to every other possibility.
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SPEAKER_01: So work on it by looking to see where phenomena occurs.
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SPEAKER_01: Start with inner thoughts.
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SPEAKER_01: Where you be thinking those thoughts?
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SPEAKER_01: Once that is utterly clear to you that all thoughts arise in mind and dissolve
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SPEAKER_01: in mind and have never been made of any substance other than mind,
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SPEAKER_01: and you're sure by repeated experience,
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SPEAKER_01: by repeated personal seeing,
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SPEAKER_01: not because I said so or you read it somewhere, that this is so, examine feelings.
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SPEAKER_01: Where do they occur?
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SPEAKER_01: And when you are certain,
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SPEAKER_01: beyond a shadow of doubt,
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SPEAKER_01: not intellectually from having read it somewhere or heard it from someone you trust,
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SPEAKER_01: but by your own experience that all feelings arise in mind and dissolve in mind,
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SPEAKER_01: and have never been made of anything other than mind,
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SPEAKER_01: Then examine your perceptions.
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SPEAKER_01: Your retina inside your eyeballs has cones and rods.
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SPEAKER_01: The cones react to presence and absence of light.
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SPEAKER_01: Now it's the other way around.
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SPEAKER_01: The cones react to wavelength of light and the rods react to presence and absence of light.
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SPEAKER_01: Both of these send a little puffs of Qi
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SPEAKER_01: Through your Tsar.
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SPEAKER_01: And as it moves through here,
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SPEAKER_01: those two things, presence and absence and wavelength, are correlated into an image.
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SPEAKER_01: And as it moves down through here, the image is labeled.
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SPEAKER_01: Can't not.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm going to lift something.
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SPEAKER_01: I want you to not think what it is.
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SPEAKER_01: Don't label it.
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SPEAKER_01: Those of you who are familiar with such objects will have not been able to not label it.
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SPEAKER_01: Those of you who've never used or seen a candle snuffer,
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SPEAKER_01: since it's inauspicious to blow out candles, and yet I live in a wood house.
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SPEAKER_01: Let me pick something you all are much more familiar with.
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SPEAKER_01: See?
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SPEAKER_01: Moves really fast.
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SPEAKER_01: Actually, we say little puffs of electricity or little puffs of chi moving through the tsa.
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SPEAKER_01: But you can also say neuronal
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SPEAKER_01: cells making a pathway that goes here
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SPEAKER_01: and exchanging neurotransmitters Via the electron cycle if you want to talk
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SPEAKER_01: about molecular biology.
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SPEAKER_00: Not quite.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Conjo kindly offering me more coffee so that I stay awake this morning.
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SPEAKER_01: My two cats spent the night fighting with something in the yard.
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SPEAKER_01: And they usually don't bother the possums and the raccoons, just other cats.
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SPEAKER_01: So, perceptions.
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SPEAKER_01: A stimulation of the sense organ.
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SPEAKER_01: In your ears,
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SPEAKER_01: there is a tympanic membrane, also known as an ear drum.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a very thin membrane that vibrates when puffs of air hit it.
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SPEAKER_01: Those vibrations are picked up by a little hammer and transmitted through a bunch
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SPEAKER_01: of little hairs into some tsa or some neurons,
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SPEAKER_01: depending on which map you're looking at,
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SPEAKER_01: which particular worldview you're subscribing to today.
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SPEAKER_01: And those are translated back, the tsar comes up here.
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SPEAKER_01: Here is where language is interpreted.
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SPEAKER_01: If these areas of the tsar are broken,
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SPEAKER_01: if the tsar that go through here are broken,
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SPEAKER_01: then you will hear sounds,
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SPEAKER_01: but not be able to interpret them as a language,
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SPEAKER_01: as if you were hearing English as a foreign language.
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SPEAKER_01: From there,
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SPEAKER_01: that transmission goes down through here,
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SPEAKER_01: where goes down through the channel behind the throat.
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SPEAKER_01: In that area, you begin to talk to yourself about what is heard.
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SPEAKER_01: They go down to here where you begin to Feel feelings about what you told yourself was heard.
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SPEAKER_01: Interpretation.
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SPEAKER_01: Perception.
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SPEAKER_01: So is true for sight and sound.
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SPEAKER_01: It is also going to be true for scent and texture and rel.
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SPEAKER_01: Emotions.
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SPEAKER_01: Are considered on one level a perception that you perceive with your Yi
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SPEAKER_01: which is here
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SPEAKER_01: because all of the sense organs connect to a very big chakra
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SPEAKER_01: in this place which is approximately behind the xiphoid process about
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SPEAKER_01: where you would feel the apical pulse
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SPEAKER_01: It's called the heart chakra.
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SPEAKER_01: It does a great deal of correlation
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SPEAKER_01: in the body
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SPEAKER_01: of the input coming in all of the channels.
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SPEAKER_01: Correlation of thoughts, feelings, and perceptions.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not where they're happening.
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SPEAKER_01: It is a muscle that correlates them together.
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SPEAKER_01: Or, if you wish to perceive it,
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SPEAKER_01: a sense organ that works with the correlation bringing forth feelings,
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SPEAKER_01: if you wish to perceive it in Western sense rather than Asian,
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SPEAKER_01: you would perceive it as a large mass of neural tissue,
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SPEAKER_01: the mesenteric neuronal tissue surrounding the gut,
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SPEAKER_01: which is extremely sensitive to neurotransmitters.
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SPEAKER_01: In Tibet, we'd just call it the Yi.
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SPEAKER_01: And consider it a sixth sense organ.
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SPEAKER_01: It is sensitive as you will notice eventually not only to your neurotransmitters,
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SPEAKER_01: but to those being released around you.
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SPEAKER_01: So when there's somebody behind you staring at the back of your head,
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SPEAKER_01: that's how you know you feel it with your Yi.
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SPEAKER_01: You've all had that experience.
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SPEAKER_01: Start with thoughts.
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SPEAKER_01: Follow them home.
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SPEAKER_01: Then feelings.
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SPEAKER_01: And finally perceptions.
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SPEAKER_01: You can't do perceptions first.
32:48
SPEAKER_01: And it won't work well if you don't have thoughts down completely first.
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SPEAKER_01: Because if you don't, you'll find yourself thinking about it.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's a distraction.
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SPEAKER_01: Even feeling about it is a distraction.
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SPEAKER_01: Even perceiving about it is a distraction.
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SPEAKER_00: There is something beyond that.
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SPEAKER_01: Where the awareness is aware of itself in every moment.
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SPEAKER_01: And that was Chapter 10.
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SPEAKER_01: Emma Ho, listen further, noble beloved sons and daughters of my heart.
33:42
SPEAKER_01: The Buddha taught that the creator of all these appearances mentioned above,
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SPEAKER_01: mind in itself has no knowledge essence
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SPEAKER_01: and has no knowable essence
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SPEAKER_01: and neither color nor shape.
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SPEAKER_01: Nor any other characteristic.
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SPEAKER_01: So if you're finding a thing that's big or small,
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SPEAKER_01: blue or red, here or there, now or then, you've missed the point.
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SPEAKER_01: Keep looking.
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SPEAKER_01: From the beginning empty and intangible like the sky.
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SPEAKER_01: The nature of mind is unquestionably empty and baseless.
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SPEAKER_01: And the sky is not a blue dome up there.
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SPEAKER_00: The sky is the space around us.
34:51
SPEAKER_01: It was a trick question on a third-grade earth science exam.
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SPEAKER_01: Where does the sky begin?
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SPEAKER_01: At the earth.
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SPEAKER_01: Where does it end?
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SPEAKER_01: It does not.
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SPEAKER_01: I used to love my science teachers in first and second and third grade.
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SPEAKER_01: They were the only ones that made any sense.
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SPEAKER_01: The history teachers were obviously talking through their hat.
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SPEAKER_01: But the science teachers seemed to know what they were saying.
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SPEAKER_01: That was a digression.
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SPEAKER_01: I do those.
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SPEAKER_01: However,
35:42
SPEAKER_01: although we may use the sky as a metaphor indicating the nature of mind,
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SPEAKER_01: it is only pointing at mind's emptiness.
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SPEAKER_01: The sky is non-cognitive, an empty blank nothingness.
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SPEAKER_01: The sky, therefore, does not illustrate the nature of mind.
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SPEAKER_01: That's under debate in Mahamudra, the great debate.
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SPEAKER_01: Is whether the sky is the mind or the sky is like the mind.
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SPEAKER_01: Debaters have fun with that one.
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SPEAKER_01: This text is going, the sky is like the mind, but it is not the mind.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, that's under debate.
36:32
SPEAKER_01: You better check for yourself.
36:34
SPEAKER_01: Don't go believing a text just because it's in the text.
36:38
SPEAKER_01: It's been through at least two levels of translation, first of all.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, it was written, I think this one was actually written in Tibetan.
36:48
SPEAKER_01: So one layer of translation, two if you're listening to this in Spanish.
36:56
SPEAKER_01: Hey, salt it.
37:00
SPEAKER_01: We are not fundamentalists here.
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SPEAKER_01: Or at least I'm not.
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SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_01: Used to drive me nuts.
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SPEAKER_01: Or maybe he just pretended to be.
37:18
SPEAKER_01: To get my goat.
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SPEAKER_01: He did a lot of stuff like that.
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SPEAKER_01: Who knows?
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SPEAKER_01: One can never really know what one's teacher is thinking.
37:31
SPEAKER_01: It's all guesses.
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SPEAKER_01: There is no non-numo.
37:51
SPEAKER_01: Oh my, somebody used big words.
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SPEAKER_01: There is no inner and outer manifestation whatsoever that is not mind.
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SPEAKER_01: The mind is like an artist it creates.
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SPEAKER_01: Body is created by mind and creates mind.
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SPEAKER_01: It doesn't go just one way.
38:18
SPEAKER_01: Yes, you dream the body you wear, but you are the dream.
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SPEAKER_01: And the body you wear creates the you who dreams.
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SPEAKER_01: It's called interconnectivity.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: And it's everywhere.
38:39
SPEAKER_00: You think you're an entity.
38:43
SPEAKER_01: It's relatively easy to recognize that you're not an entity, you're an ecology.
38:49
SPEAKER_01: Just learn a bit about the bio and how the different bacteria living in your gut
38:58
SPEAKER_01: and overgrowths of this or overgrowths of that affect your feelings and thoughts
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SPEAKER_01: to realize that your mind ain't yours.
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SPEAKER_01: It's ours.
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SPEAKER_01: You're a plurality, not a singularity.
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SPEAKER_01: And within that, you are changed by your experiences.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, that's how you mature, grow up, learn.
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SPEAKER_01: You're not the same person you were at 12.
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SPEAKER_01: So being changed by your experiences...
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SPEAKER_01: Which you are making up.
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SPEAKER_01: Do you see the mirror reflecting itself?
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SPEAKER_01: You are created by your experiences and you create your experiences at the same time.
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SPEAKER_01: There's nobody in there.
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SPEAKER_01: There's nobody out there.
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SPEAKER_01: Just pure interaction.
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SPEAKER_01: And when that pure interaction is perceived exactly as it is,
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SPEAKER_01: it is the clear light of vitality,
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SPEAKER_01: of aliveness of the universe,
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SPEAKER_01: which is also known as Bodhisitta, Buddha consciousness.
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SPEAKER_01: Love.
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SPEAKER_01: Is a pale reflection
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SPEAKER_01: of the totality of this innate vitality symbolized by clear light.
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SPEAKER_01: The light by which the seer sees.
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SPEAKER_00: Are we beginning to make any sense to you here?
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SPEAKER_01: Go find where your thoughts be happening.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the beginning.
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SPEAKER_01: Step one, very clear.
41:13
SPEAKER_01: Step two, become very familiar with that by repeating it again and again until you're sure.
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SPEAKER_01: And then we'll talk more about what comes next.
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SPEAKER_01: Mind.
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SPEAKER_01: The nature of mind is empty.
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SPEAKER_01: It is not a thing.
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SPEAKER_01: Do you all have any questions here?
41:55
SPEAKER_01: We finished Song 11 and are moving on to 12.
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SPEAKER_01: Song 11 is short?
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SPEAKER_01: It is.
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SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Some of them are.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: So one question we have...
42:15
SPEAKER_00: The text mentions emanations.
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SPEAKER_00: Versions of myself have been splitting and going to different directions or realms for teaching.
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SPEAKER_00: Is this that?
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SPEAKER_00: Is this what emanations are?
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
42:36
SPEAKER_00: That was too easy.
42:37
SPEAKER_00: Next question.
42:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, a related question is how to meet up with you in the dream time.
42:49
SPEAKER_01: Call my name out.
42:50
SPEAKER_01: Once you're lucid in the dream time, call my name out loud three times and start walking.
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SPEAKER_01: You'll come to wherever I am.
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SPEAKER_01: Or
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SPEAKER_01: there is
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SPEAKER_01: place.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not a real place.
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SPEAKER_01: It is beside the ocean.
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SPEAKER_01: It has many pillars and arches.
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SPEAKER_01: It is made of a reddish brown stone.
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SPEAKER_01: It is a group construct of many people.
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SPEAKER_01: If you can find that place, I am often there as are others.
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SPEAKER_01: There is a more traditional to earth place, which is called by the river.
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SPEAKER_01: Find a running water in your dream.
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SPEAKER_01: Call three times the one you want to turn up and then wait.
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SPEAKER_01: That will often work.
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SPEAKER_01: The places of the Dreamtime are not real places.
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SPEAKER_01: However,
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SPEAKER_01: there are some agreed upon constructs which are designed
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SPEAKER_01: to help beginners find their way there.
44:38
SPEAKER_01: I've offered you a few of the more friendly ones.
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SPEAKER_01: There are some unfriendly constructs designed by people who like Dungeons
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SPEAKER_01: and Dragons type adventures better than just learning.
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SPEAKER_01: So you can find that too.
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SPEAKER_01: These are basic.
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SPEAKER_01: The first one, the one by the ocean, by the sea, is symbolic for many species.
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SPEAKER_01: So you won't meet just Homo sapiens there.
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SPEAKER_01: The by the river is predominantly Western homo sapien culture.
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SPEAKER_01: Tibetans do not have one of those.
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SPEAKER_01: They have a different way of doing that involving simply visualizing the teacher and
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SPEAKER_01: then you just do prostrations until they get there.
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SPEAKER_01: In the dream.
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SPEAKER_01: Or calling the teacher's name again and again while walking forward as the scenery changes.
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SPEAKER_01: Those are Tibetan.
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SPEAKER_01: So take your pick.
45:55
SPEAKER_01: First, you need to develop lucidity.
45:59
SPEAKER_01: The teachings on the whole process of that I've been able to record for you.
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SPEAKER_01: So at your own rate, you can work through the process.
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SPEAKER_01: They go in order, one, two, three, and four, and four is done.
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SPEAKER_01: I requested Yeshe Tenzin Wanjil Rinpoche to do number four
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SPEAKER_01: because there is some bond chakra work that he is ever so much better at than me
46:28
SPEAKER_01: that was not part of my training, but is very effective.
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SPEAKER_01: So even just through three will do it, but four will do it even more so.
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SPEAKER_01: I'll see you out there.
46:44
SPEAKER_01: I do not make it out there every night.
46:47
SPEAKER_01: Last night, too many catfights.
46:51
SPEAKER_01: I barely slept, and what sleep I did was probably just a bit of feta, which you need for health.
47:09
SPEAKER_01: Dreamtime does not have the same temporal and physical strictures of this side.
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SPEAKER_01: Think of it as another dimension.
47:13
SPEAKER_01: Other questions?
47:14
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
47:36
SPEAKER_00: As a Mahamudra practitioner,
47:38
SPEAKER_00: to what extent is the flight of the Garuda applicable to my practice?
47:44
SPEAKER_01: Depends on where you are in Mahamudra.
47:47
SPEAKER_01: If you are in Laktong, it's perfectly applicable.
47:52
SPEAKER_01: If you are before Laktong,
47:55
SPEAKER_01: well, it gives you a bit of a map, but that's not where your practice is right now.
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SPEAKER_01: Shinai.
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SPEAKER_01: Goes through sine with an object to sine without an object to separating the moving
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SPEAKER_01: from the stillness to the yoga of moving stillness where you recognize
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SPEAKER_01: that they are inseparable after you've learned the difference.
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SPEAKER_01: Do that in order.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's after Trultra Naljora,
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SPEAKER_01: yoga of dancing stillness in Mahamudra, That you can enter into Laktong.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the gate to Laktong.
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SPEAKER_01: Once you're in Laktong, this will make perfect sense.
48:43
SPEAKER_01: So it really depends on what stage you're at in your Maha Mudra practice.
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SPEAKER_01: Are you still working with the pebble?
48:50
SPEAKER_01: Are you working without the pebble?
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SPEAKER_01: Have you managed to clearly perceive the difference between what is stillness
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SPEAKER_01: and what is moving?
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SPEAKER_01: Have you managed to clearly perceive the not difference between what is stillness
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SPEAKER_01: and what is moving?
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SPEAKER_01: Having done so, Lacton arises directly.
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SPEAKER_01: Lacton.
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SPEAKER_01: Direct seeing.
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SPEAKER_01: Which is treacherous.
49:25
SPEAKER_01: Same thing.
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SPEAKER_01: And Lactog and Treksha together mature through one taste.
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SPEAKER_01: Next question.
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SPEAKER_00: When you read the text and say the word mind,
49:42
SPEAKER_00: which Tibetan words are you referring to when you say mind?
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SPEAKER_01: Sem.
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SPEAKER_01: Next.
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SPEAKER_00: That was easy.
49:52
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
49:53
SPEAKER_00: A follow-up question on emanations.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
49:58
SPEAKER_00: And the question is, how does one practice or work with them?
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SPEAKER_00: I guess once you've seen them or identified them.
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SPEAKER_01: You use them to create more Gewa and then offer the Gewa back out to the universe.
50:27
SPEAKER_01: That was an easy answer.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
50:30
SPEAKER_00: There was another question.
50:32
SPEAKER_00: Well, once you got onto the story of perceptions and the story of the Frenchman,
50:39
SPEAKER_00: you also talked about,
50:41
SPEAKER_00: you said that we could change our ways, our patterns of thinking.
50:49
SPEAKER_00: And what do we do to change patterns of thinking?
50:56
SPEAKER_00: How do we do that?
50:57
SPEAKER_01: Meditate.
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SPEAKER_01: First, you have to get loose from the patterns you are embroiled in that you think are real.
51:08
SPEAKER_01: The way to do that is by meditating.
51:13
SPEAKER_01: Then you
51:17
SPEAKER_01: might choose a different one, such as the pattern of bodhicitta or the pattern
51:36
SPEAKER_01: You can, through certain tantras, also make these adjustments.
51:43
SPEAKER_01: We're in a Zogchen text, so I wasn't describing the tantric methods.
51:48
SPEAKER_01: But if you have a pattern that repeatedly troubles you,
51:53
SPEAKER_01: such as You hold a pattern belief system that you are very bad at mathematics
52:01
SPEAKER_01: and this bothers you.
52:03
SPEAKER_01: Some people are quite okay with being bad at mathematics or good at mathematics.
52:08
SPEAKER_01: Or you hold a pattern that you cannot repair your own car.
52:12
SPEAKER_01: You do not understand internal combustion engines.
52:16
SPEAKER_01: Well, now it's all computerized and you don't have the computer to repair it,
52:20
SPEAKER_01: but you should be able to understand what's in there.
52:24
SPEAKER_01: If you hold the pattern that you can't,
52:30
SPEAKER_01: you can actually wash that out with Vajrasattva with a process of recapitulation
52:38
SPEAKER_01: or re-awaring, re-bringing to conscious awareness where you got that pattern.
52:43
SPEAKER_01: Who first told you that, oh, girls don't do auto mechanics or...
52:51
SPEAKER_01: You're not a mechanical type of guy.
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SPEAKER_01: Or you chose that pattern early in life because everyone expected you as
53:08
SPEAKER_01: an Afro-American man to grow up and work with your hands and you weren't having none
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SPEAKER_01: of it.
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SPEAKER_01: So you taught your hands to be incompetent.
53:20
SPEAKER_01: James.
53:23
SPEAKER_01: Right?
53:24
SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: Last time he cooked in my kitchen.
53:31
SPEAKER_01: He actually managed to get green stuff stuck to the ceiling and I have no idea how he did that.
53:44
SPEAKER_01: Refresh me with the question.
53:45
SPEAKER_01: I want to make sure I'm not going off track.
53:48
SPEAKER_00: Um...
53:49
SPEAKER_00: You're talking about ways to change our ways or patterns of perception.
53:56
SPEAKER_00: What can we do to... Vajrasattva.
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SPEAKER_00: Confession.
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SPEAKER_01: Wash it out.
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SPEAKER_01: Tantra.
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SPEAKER_01: On a more global scale,
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SPEAKER_01: let's say you have a pattern of timidity,
54:17
SPEAKER_01: which is too damn big to try to trace down where you got it.
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SPEAKER_01: You are timid and your timidity is beginning to bother you in your 40s or your 20s.
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SPEAKER_01: So shy and so timid that you can't assert yourself and people get to abuse you all the time.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's a pattern that you can see and you would really like to change it.
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SPEAKER_01: So what do you do?
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SPEAKER_01: Tantra, visualize yourself as a fierce archetype.
54:49
SPEAKER_01: Day and night maintain that visualization with all phenomena surrounding you as
54:55
SPEAKER_01: the mandala of the archetype and you as the archetype.
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SPEAKER_01: One of the Taras is great for that among the 21.
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SPEAKER_01: Pick one.
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SPEAKER_01: Learn more about her.
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SPEAKER_01: In all of that,
55:16
SPEAKER_01: by doing that practice,
55:19
SPEAKER_01: you will change the big pattern that's too big for you to just trace the lines down
55:25
SPEAKER_01: for the specifics where you got the impression that you couldn't cook
55:29
SPEAKER_01: or you couldn't fix cars or you couldn't do this or you couldn't do that.
55:37
SPEAKER_00: Do you see?
55:40
SPEAKER_01: Next question.
55:41
SPEAKER_00: A follow-up is, can it help to loosen the patterns by traveling to other places or cultures?
55:48
SPEAKER_01: Oh yes, very much so.
55:52
SPEAKER_01: In fact,
55:54
SPEAKER_01: the instructions for any beginning practitioner,
55:58
SPEAKER_01: the first instruction is, leave your home and family.
56:04
SPEAKER_01: This is geared towards the ones who are about 19 or 20, maybe 25.
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SPEAKER_01: Once you have kids, don't do that.
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SPEAKER_01: Then it's a different path.
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SPEAKER_01: But if you don't have them yet, leave.
56:27
SPEAKER_01: COVID will end.
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SPEAKER_01: There'll be a gap before the next one.
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SPEAKER_01: Take advantage of that gap.
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SPEAKER_01: Leave home.
56:36
SPEAKER_01: Leave the known and go to the unknown.
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SPEAKER_01: Where no one looking at you will hold your pattern.
56:44
SPEAKER_01: Right now your whole family has an idea of who you are.
56:48
SPEAKER_01: They are holding that.
56:50
SPEAKER_01: So that even if you get loose of it,
56:52
SPEAKER_01: they're going to stick it right back on because they believe in it.
56:56
SPEAKER_01: Leave home.
56:59
SPEAKER_01: But if you have children, you can't do that until they're in college.
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SPEAKER_01: Don't even try.
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SPEAKER_01: It creates more digpa than it resolves.
57:17
SPEAKER_01: Next question.
57:20
SPEAKER_00: One moment, I had it in front of me.
57:24
SPEAKER_00: When following the thought home, sometimes I, quote, lose my mind, end of quote, and it's scary.
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SPEAKER_00: Any ways to remove this obstacle?
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: You're missing that losing, that sensation, that scary, that void.
57:53
SPEAKER_01: Has to do with insufficient Sambhogakaya awareness.
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SPEAKER_01: Go do for... Can I have some more coffee?
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SPEAKER_01: Of course.
58:05
SPEAKER_01: Go do the Chenrezig Sadhana for weeks or months and try again.
58:18
SPEAKER_01: That should get you past the scary because the Chenrezig sadhana points directly at
58:25
SPEAKER_01: the Sambhogakaya, thousand arm Chenrezig.
58:29
SPEAKER_01: Jan's got an ongoing group.
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SPEAKER_01: The actual teaching is up on the website for anyone who wants it.
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SPEAKER_01: It is a direct introduction.
58:42
SPEAKER_01: The practice itself is a direct introduction to the Sambhogakaya.
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SPEAKER_01: The innate awareness of open awareness.
58:54
SPEAKER_01: When we say the phrase open awareness in all its creativity,
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SPEAKER_01: the word open refers to Dharmakaya nature of mind.
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SPEAKER_01: The word awareness refers to Sambhogakaya nature of mind.
59:14
SPEAKER_01: The word Creativity refers to nirmanakaya nature of mind.
59:24
SPEAKER_01: Understand dharmakaya, sambhogakaya, nirmanakaya are not really nouns.
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SPEAKER_01: They're more adjectives that describe mind, aspects of mind.
59:39
SPEAKER_01: It's not different minds.
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SPEAKER_01: It's different It's ways of emphasizing different qualities of the innate
59:54
SPEAKER_01: and naturally creative open awareness.
1:00:02
SPEAKER_01: Not three different things.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_01: One thing in particular.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_01: As well as all things in particular.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_01: Because of the nature of our language in the Romance Latin derivative languages such
1:00:27
SPEAKER_01: as English, Spanish, and French Portuguese too probably.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_01: This is different in Mandarin.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_01: There is a great deal of either-or-ness
1:00:47
SPEAKER_01: Either there are many of those or there is one of those.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_01: However, those are cultural belief systems
1:01:03
SPEAKER_01: that many precludes one and one precludes many.
1:01:11
SPEAKER_01: Part of the patterns that you will have to get over
1:01:23
SPEAKER_00: Next question.
1:01:25
SPEAKER_00: Can you do the chin raising visualization while doing traction?
1:01:31
SPEAKER_01: No.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_01: They are different practices.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_01: You do the chin raising visualization while doing the dishes, taking a walk, etc.
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SPEAKER_01: There is no visualization in Treksha.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_01: They are different.
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SPEAKER_01: One is Tantra, path of accumulation, accumulation stage.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_01: And one is Dzogchen, path of actualization or actualization stage.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_01: Next question.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_00: I haven't been able to glimpse Tawa as easily as before a surgery I had one week ago.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_00: Can you recommend anything to help?
1:02:28
SPEAKER_01: Yes,
1:02:28
SPEAKER_01: eat a nutritious diet of generally good foods with all the micronutrients to help
1:02:37
SPEAKER_01: with your healing.
1:02:38
SPEAKER_01: Drink enough liquids, preferably water, and get enough rest and sleep.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_01: Your body is healing and your energy is there.
1:02:48
SPEAKER_01: When your body has managed to complete its healing,
1:02:52
SPEAKER_01: you will find the same ease that you had before.
1:02:57
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes when the body has been traumatized by a serious accident or a surgery
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SPEAKER_01: or something else, all the
1:03:10
SPEAKER_01: subliminal microattentions
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SPEAKER_01: are towards healing that.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_01: And you need to respect that.
1:03:19
SPEAKER_01: You need to respect the body and further the healing.
1:03:29
SPEAKER_01: Even if you are vegetarian, it is recommended that you eat some meat broth after surgery.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_01: This is for building back what is needed and what is lost in surgery.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_01: The channels themselves also need to regrow if they've been cut through.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_01: They do.
1:03:58
SPEAKER_01: Takes a little time.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_01: So the idea while the channels are healing is don't stress them.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_01: They heal better when relaxed.
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SPEAKER_01: So pretty simple.
1:04:12
SPEAKER_01: Do all those good things that your doc told you to do.
1:04:17
SPEAKER_00: Next question.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_00: If perceptions are a result of visual receptors that detect light
1:04:24
SPEAKER_00: or presence slash absence, is there something out there for the mind to detect?
1:04:32
SPEAKER_00: Is there an external reality?
1:04:36
SPEAKER_01: Ah, the old debate.
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SPEAKER_01: The answer is mu in Japanese.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, but it's not what you think it is and you will never,
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SPEAKER_01: short of enlightenment, be able to perceive it.
1:04:57
SPEAKER_01: Since it is not perceivable by anyone, who cares if it exists or not?
1:05:08
SPEAKER_01: Whether there is one reality or two realities is a marvelous debate that goes on in
1:05:13
SPEAKER_01: the Galupa systems.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_01: Actually, between Glukpa and Nyingma too, where the Glukpas say there are two realities.
1:05:23
SPEAKER_01: There is a real relative reality as well as a false relative reality as well as
1:05:30
SPEAKER_01: a real reality that isn't relative.
1:05:32
SPEAKER_01: So the existence of a real relative reality is argued for in the Glukpa system of Majamika.
1:05:39
SPEAKER_01: However, in the Nyingma system,
1:05:47
SPEAKER_01: That is slightly laughed at.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_01: There is form, but form arises in mind.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_01: Nonetheless, form also creates mind.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_01: So all ises and isn'ts aren't, quote from Saraha.
1:06:21
SPEAKER_01: Mu is your answer.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_01: In beginning Dzogchen,
1:06:32
SPEAKER_01: before you get up into the togel and levels of working with perception directly,
1:06:42
SPEAKER_01: It is taught that all phenomena arises in mind.
1:06:46
SPEAKER_01: That is an oversimplification.
1:06:50
SPEAKER_01: But it is a useful oversimplification for most of you for now.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_01: It's not untrue.
1:07:03
SPEAKER_01: It's just a little bit overly simple.
1:07:07
SPEAKER_01: It assumes there is a mind.
1:07:10
SPEAKER_01: Other than everything arising.
1:07:14
SPEAKER_01: For everything to arise in it.
1:07:18
SPEAKER_01: Whereas actually everything arises as it.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_01: And the mountain is dreaming you.
1:07:30
SPEAKER_01: And it's as real as you are.
1:07:35
SPEAKER_01: Next question.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_00: My vision seems to white out progressively, especially when deeply viewing the mind.
1:07:44
SPEAKER_00: Is this a nyam?
1:07:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it does that.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_01: This is caused by the fact that when you really relax and detracture,
1:07:52
SPEAKER_01: very often the irises of your eyes will dilate,
1:07:57
SPEAKER_01: which causes you to experience the light.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_01: It's becoming brighter and whiter and getting this white-out sensation.
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SPEAKER_01: It is unimportant.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_01: Do remember to blink from time to time so your eyeballs don't dry out.
1:08:17
SPEAKER_01: I found the missing page.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_01: Yes, there is more to this chapter.
1:08:24
SPEAKER_01: It's due to the fact that I've not seen well without my glasses on today.
1:08:32
SPEAKER_01: I'm actually not seeing that well with them on.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_01: Now, what on earth was that in Tibetan?
1:08:43
SPEAKER_01: The spontaneous efflorescence of the empty radiance of mind's nature manifests
1:08:51
SPEAKER_01: the infinite diversity of all and everything.
1:08:59
SPEAKER_01: God, Keith, you like big words.
1:09:05
SPEAKER_01: Spontaneously arising
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SPEAKER_01: Glow, clear light nature.
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SPEAKER_01: Vitality
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SPEAKER_01: of the empty radiance of mind
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SPEAKER_01: is what manifests as the infinite diversity
1:09:28
SPEAKER_01: of all and everything.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_01: The light is a symbol of vitality.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_01: The vitality is a symbol of the ability to be alive and think.
1:09:49
SPEAKER_01: The lucidity.
1:09:51
SPEAKER_01: It is that very lucidity that manifests as the creativity which creates all and everything.
1:10:01
SPEAKER_01: That lucidity is the natural nature of the vastness.
1:10:08
SPEAKER_01: If that were not The case there would only be a big black old void.
1:10:14
SPEAKER_01: No life.
1:10:16
SPEAKER_01: No awareness.
1:10:19
SPEAKER_01: No sentient beings.
1:10:22
SPEAKER_01: No buddhas.
1:10:24
SPEAKER_01: No matter.
1:10:26
SPEAKER_01: No form.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_01: No movement.
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SPEAKER_01: Big dead old dark void.
1:10:35
SPEAKER_01: Without that clear light nature.
1:10:39
SPEAKER_01: And it is obviously there because you can think, feel, and perceive.
1:10:47
SPEAKER_01: Feel it.
1:10:47
SPEAKER_01: Feel yourself thinking, feeling, and perceiving.
1:10:51
SPEAKER_01: So you know that there is lucidity.
1:10:55
SPEAKER_01: Clear light is simply the symbol of that lucidity.
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SPEAKER_01: The spaciousness all around you, the sky itself,
1:11:08
SPEAKER_01: It is of the nature of that lucidity and thereby able to think,
1:11:16
SPEAKER_01: feel, and perceive, being able to do it, it do that.
1:11:21
SPEAKER_01: And that gives birth to the form, the creativity of the universe.
1:11:29
SPEAKER_01: The energy channels are infinite and open.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_01: The innate vitality is the chi that runs through them
1:11:45
SPEAKER_01: to every when, everywhere.
1:11:49
SPEAKER_01: And the tigli is the very innate creativity of that lucidity arising as all
1:11:58
SPEAKER_01: and everything manifest
1:12:02
SPEAKER_00: of the nature of bodhicitta,
1:12:05
SPEAKER_01: which is the pattern of that vitality.
1:12:14
SPEAKER_01: Whatever arises seems like the reflection in a mirror.
1:12:20
SPEAKER_01: But there is no duality of viewer and vision, mirror and reflected object.
1:12:28
SPEAKER_01: They are not separate.
1:12:35
SPEAKER_01: One in the space of emptiness.
1:12:40
SPEAKER_01: Such is my introduction to initiating recognition of emptiness as appearance.
1:12:47
SPEAKER_00: Look out there
1:12:48
SPEAKER_01: at all that you see.
1:12:55
SPEAKER_01: The seer is what it sees.
1:12:59
SPEAKER_01: That very visual field is creating you the perceiver of the visual field because
1:13:05
SPEAKER_01: in this moment that's what you are.
1:13:07
SPEAKER_01: You are perceiving that visual field.
1:13:13
SPEAKER_01: And having thoughts about it and feelings about it.
1:13:20
SPEAKER_01: It made you up as much as you're making it up.
1:13:34
SPEAKER_01: From the beginning appearances and emptiness are indivisible.
1:13:40
SPEAKER_01: Because the mind is empty, appearances are unimpeded.
1:13:46
SPEAKER_01: Go right through.
1:13:47
SPEAKER_01: Don't stick.
1:13:51
SPEAKER_01: And ungraspable phenomena arise in the dimension of emptiness as variegated radiance.
1:13:59
SPEAKER_01: Appearances, on the other hand, do not obstruct or fill emptiness.
1:14:06
SPEAKER_01: Although they manifest, their nature is originally empty.
1:14:11
SPEAKER_01: The symbol of this is the space between the atoms.
1:14:18
SPEAKER_01: Any object
1:14:25
SPEAKER_01: of form and solidity apparent is actually mostly empty space.
1:14:35
SPEAKER_01: Space between the molecules and within the molecules space between the
1:14:43
SPEAKER_01: Atoms sharing electrons making up the molecule and within the atom space between
1:14:50
SPEAKER_01: the neutrons and the protons and the electrons and within the neutrons space between
1:14:59
SPEAKER_01: the clorax and the gluons and all those other itty bits of nothing spinning.
1:15:12
SPEAKER_01: Space.
1:15:16
SPEAKER_01: Full of space.
1:15:25
SPEAKER_01: As well as good fresh coffee.
1:15:27
SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Nyando.
1:15:35
SPEAKER_01: For the Yogan who realizes the indivisibility of phenomena and emptiness,
1:15:41
SPEAKER_01: like a rainbow in the sky or a reflection of the moon in water,
1:15:47
SPEAKER_01: Every experience of samsara and nirvana is the play of a magical illusion.
1:15:55
SPEAKER_01: You don't think it is like that on purpose.
1:16:01
SPEAKER_01: Realize that it really is that.
1:16:11
SPEAKER_01: Watching the play of indivisible appearance and emptiness,
1:16:15
SPEAKER_01: the yoga whose intellect and mental processes are still is content.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_01: So by that it means when you recognize this,
1:16:27
SPEAKER_01: you no longer have to figure out what the fuck it's doing,
1:16:31
SPEAKER_01: what the fuck it's going to do next, or how you should relate to it.
1:16:39
SPEAKER_01: It's just a bunch of holograms in a play, in a story.
1:16:51
SPEAKER_01: Much easier to be equanimous once you have noticed the reality of that.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_01: Not impose that idea on your own belief systems, but actually notice that it is so.
1:17:12
SPEAKER_01: There is an exercise done in dream yoga where you go about all day remembering
1:17:20
SPEAKER_01: to repeatedly think that you are dreaming.
1:17:27
SPEAKER_01: There is an exercise in Treksha called short moments.
1:17:37
SPEAKER_01: The first one in dream yoga, it's called acknowledging the dream.
1:17:41
SPEAKER_01: You go about all the time in awareness that this itself is a dream.
1:17:46
SPEAKER_01: Helps you attain lucidity in the dream time.
1:17:54
SPEAKER_01: In Treksha, there is an exercise
1:18:01
SPEAKER_01: called short moments or brief glimpses or glancing.
1:18:08
SPEAKER_01: That I often describe as repeatedly check and see if your mind is still there.
1:18:14
SPEAKER_01: This exercise is for the purpose of stability of Treksha,
1:18:20
SPEAKER_01: to stabilize Treksha,
1:18:22
SPEAKER_01: which is imperative before you begin Dogel, working with phenomena directly.
1:18:33
SPEAKER_01: So...
1:18:42
SPEAKER_01: In this practice,
1:18:46
SPEAKER_01: you continuously,
1:18:47
SPEAKER_01: as you do other things throughout the day,
1:18:49
SPEAKER_01: walking,
1:18:50
SPEAKER_01: talking,
1:18:51
SPEAKER_01: getting up or sitting down,
1:18:53
SPEAKER_01: eating your food, taking a dump, whatever you're doing while you're doing it.
1:19:01
SPEAKER_01: I think I just quoted Jungchuk Dorji, one of my teachers' teachers on that.
1:19:08
SPEAKER_01: Whatever you're doing while you're doing it,
1:19:13
SPEAKER_01: You repeatedly,
1:19:14
SPEAKER_01: for a brief moment,
1:19:16
SPEAKER_01: relax into open awareness and notice dharmakaya nature of mind,
1:19:24
SPEAKER_01: also known as tawa,
1:19:26
SPEAKER_01: which is actually a more complete word because it includes sambhogakaya,
1:19:31
SPEAKER_01: nirmanakaya nature of mind.
1:19:34
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't separate out,
1:19:35
SPEAKER_01: just focus on the emptiness,
1:19:38
SPEAKER_01: which is what one does in the beginning, just focus on the stillness.
1:19:44
SPEAKER_01: So repeatedly during the day, it is not a saying to yourself, repeating the thought.
1:19:54
SPEAKER_01: It is not a re-feeling or even a re-perceiving.
1:20:00
SPEAKER_01: It is a noticing, just as you could do an exercise.
1:20:06
SPEAKER_01: In fact, this is one which is done at some point as one of the rushens.
1:20:12
SPEAKER_01: Where you walk about looking at objects and noticing the space around them.
1:20:18
SPEAKER_01: Or frequently during the day you bring your attention to notice the sky and its color.
1:20:26
SPEAKER_01: Whether it's got clouds, no clouds, whether it's bright, dark.
1:20:32
SPEAKER_01: All of these are learning and part of exercises to quickly shift your attention as you like to.
1:20:42
SPEAKER_01: Developing that skill.
1:20:45
SPEAKER_01: In this exercise of,
1:20:48
SPEAKER_01: in the practice of stabilizing Tawa,
1:20:53
SPEAKER_01: or stabilizing Treksha,
1:20:58
SPEAKER_01: the action, the practice, is to repeatedly check on it.
1:21:08
SPEAKER_01: Repeatedly open your attention into the vastness of natural mind
1:21:14
SPEAKER_01: without grasping it, defining it, naming it, or trying to hold the feel of it.
1:21:24
SPEAKER_01: Check, release.
1:21:26
SPEAKER_01: Check, release.
1:21:29
SPEAKER_01: What this does is it leads to a certain certainty.
1:21:34
SPEAKER_01: That it doesn't come and go and is inherently stable because every time you check
1:21:39
SPEAKER_01: on it, it's still there.
1:21:41
SPEAKER_01: It hasn't moved and it isn't different.
1:21:45
SPEAKER_01: So you get sure by your own experience that it's always there and isn't different.
1:21:53
SPEAKER_01: And thereby you can rely on it.
1:22:14
SPEAKER_01: Are your mind still in this moment, my beloved children?
1:22:19
SPEAKER_01: Look to see if the empty appearances of your mind can actually be divided.
1:22:27
SPEAKER_01: Appearance and emptiness are indivisible.
1:22:31
SPEAKER_01: Triltra Naljur.
1:22:33
SPEAKER_01: Appearance is moving.
1:22:35
SPEAKER_01: They're always changing.
1:22:37
SPEAKER_01: Emptiness is stillness, forever unchanging, unmoving, no thing to move.
1:22:44
SPEAKER_01: No place to go.
1:22:47
SPEAKER_01: Are they different?
1:22:50
SPEAKER_01: Look for yourself.
1:22:52
SPEAKER_01: In all the moving, what actual thing moves?
1:22:59
SPEAKER_01: If you're really into Western science and Western belief systems,
1:23:03
SPEAKER_01: go read a book on quantum physics and get back to me.
1:23:09
SPEAKER_01: It will tell you the exact same thing it's telling you here.
1:23:14
SPEAKER_01: No thing actually moves.
1:23:19
SPEAKER_01: There ain't nothing in there except space and stillness.
1:23:26
SPEAKER_01: And yet the appearance of movement arises in the vitality, the lucidity of life.
1:23:39
SPEAKER_01: Go look right now.
1:23:42
SPEAKER_01: Mind, mind looking.
1:23:48
SPEAKER_01: Is your mind moving?
1:23:52
SPEAKER_01: Or is it still?
1:23:56
SPEAKER_01: Or is it neither moving nor still?
1:24:01
SPEAKER_01: Or is it both moving and still?
1:24:08
SPEAKER_01: Look for yourself.
1:24:10
SPEAKER_01: Don't take my word on any of this.
1:24:26
SPEAKER_01: The dance of the dream moves always.
1:24:31
SPEAKER_01: This is the beauty of the dance in its four-dimensional construct.
1:24:43
SPEAKER_01: The stillness of the spaciousness,
1:24:48
SPEAKER_01: always and forever present in the moving.
1:24:53
SPEAKER_01: For how could it move if there was no still space to move in?
1:25:03
SPEAKER_00: And yet,
1:25:06
SPEAKER_01: no thingness.
1:25:13
SPEAKER_01: Look at your mind with your mind.
1:25:33
SPEAKER_01: Don't try to think about this.
1:25:36
SPEAKER_01: Thoughts won't go there.
1:25:38
SPEAKER_01: They're too small.
1:26:11
SPEAKER_01: Even feelings don't feel this.
1:26:16
SPEAKER_01: Too small, too weakly.
1:26:24
SPEAKER_01: Beyond the duality of perception and perceiver.
1:26:35
SPEAKER_01: Perception perceives itself in infinite openness.
1:26:40
SPEAKER_01: Dancing the dance of stillness.
1:26:53
SPEAKER_01: Always was and will be this.
1:26:57
SPEAKER_01: Not coming and going, not gained and lost.
1:27:01
SPEAKER_01: There is no attainment or lack of attainment.
1:27:06
SPEAKER_01: This is the nature of all beings and always has been.
1:27:12
SPEAKER_01: You don't create this, or attain this,
1:27:18
SPEAKER_01: or develop this, or get good enough for this.
1:27:25
SPEAKER_01: You simply notice it.
1:27:48
SPEAKER_01: It follows then that naturally indivisible appearance and emptiness,
1:27:55
SPEAKER_01: the inherent radiance of self-existent total presence, clear, alert, awake, aware,
1:28:05
SPEAKER_01: constitutes the three modes of Buddha being, Dharmakaya, Sambhogakaya, Nermanakaya.
1:28:12
SPEAKER_01: That are spontaneously originated in their dynamic.
1:28:22
SPEAKER_01: Oh, he's got some big words.
1:28:25
SPEAKER_01: The infinite openness is itself aware and awake and lucid.
1:28:33
SPEAKER_01: And as such, lucid means can think, can feel, can perceive.
1:28:42
SPEAKER_01: So of course, since it can, there be.
1:28:45
SPEAKER_01: So the feelings,
1:28:48
SPEAKER_01: thoughts,
1:28:48
SPEAKER_01: and perceptions arise and vanish in no thing as nowhere as the innate nature of
1:28:55
SPEAKER_01: the luminous lucidity of the spaciousness of open awareness
1:29:01
SPEAKER_01: in its singular multiplicity.
1:29:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you.
1:29:19
SPEAKER_01: Therefore,
1:29:20
SPEAKER_01: children of my heart,
1:29:21
SPEAKER_01: without regard for sessions and intervals of formal practice,
1:29:28
SPEAKER_01: in constant meditation, recognize this day and night.
1:29:37
SPEAKER_01: Not sustain a moving thing Such is the idea of this,
1:29:45
SPEAKER_01: the feeling of this,
1:29:46
SPEAKER_01: or even the perception of this,
1:29:48
SPEAKER_01: but rather re-notice
1:29:53
SPEAKER_01: again and again until certainty is inevitable.
1:30:01
SPEAKER_01: Such is my introduction initiating recognition of natural spontaneous Gnostic liberation
1:30:22
SPEAKER_01: They're all good words, but sometimes I think he swallowed a dictionary.
1:30:28
SPEAKER_01: And I'm just an old street kid,
1:30:31
SPEAKER_01: raised on the street sale kitchen in New York and then a cave yogi,
1:30:35
SPEAKER_01: so I don't know all them highfalutin words.
1:30:39
SPEAKER_01: But if you do, you will very much enjoy this text.
1:30:46
SPEAKER_01: And this is the best translation I've found.
1:30:59
SPEAKER_01: Are there questions?
1:31:00
SPEAKER_01: We now really have completed song 11 and we'll be starting song 12 next week.
1:31:10
SPEAKER_00: What do they mean when they talk about the youthful vase body?
1:31:21
SPEAKER_01: I will have to tell you a story to illustrate that.
1:31:28
SPEAKER_01: In the beginning,
1:31:29
SPEAKER_01: which was not long,
1:31:30
SPEAKER_01: long ago or far,
1:31:32
SPEAKER_01: far away,
1:31:33
SPEAKER_01: but is actually the beginning of every existent moment throughout time and space.
1:31:42
SPEAKER_01: But, for ease of speaking, we will simply say, in the beginning.
1:31:51
SPEAKER_01: When the clear light nature of infinite openness Struck the crystal of awake, aware lucidity.
1:32:06
SPEAKER_01: The light fragments, striking the prism, into the multicolored rainbow.
1:32:15
SPEAKER_01: At this time,
1:32:17
SPEAKER_01: Kuntuzangpo,
1:32:18
SPEAKER_01: Kuntuzangmo,
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SPEAKER_01: Primordial Buddha,
1:32:22
SPEAKER_01: recognizing himself as the clear light nature of the open awareness
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SPEAKER_01: in all its lucidity and creativity.
1:32:37
SPEAKER_01: Recognize the rainbow lights of this phenomenal process as one and the same with himself.
1:32:48
SPEAKER_01: And so has never known confusion and remains enlightened throughout each and every moment.
1:32:59
SPEAKER_01: Sentient beings,
1:33:00
SPEAKER_01: however,
1:33:02
SPEAKER_01: like a baby seeing the reflection of Mama's diamond wedding ring on the wall,
1:33:08
SPEAKER_01: tries to reach out and catch the little rainbows.
1:33:13
SPEAKER_01: I remember doing that while nursing on a sunny day.
1:33:19
SPEAKER_01: Trying to,
1:33:20
SPEAKER_01: with my very poor coordination of like a six-month-old,
1:33:23
SPEAKER_01: trying to catch those rainbows on the wall and pick them up and stick them
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SPEAKER_01: in my mouth.
1:33:30
SPEAKER_01: Or like a kitten with laser pointer.
1:33:33
SPEAKER_01: Didn't work on my cats.
1:33:35
SPEAKER_01: They soon learned to pounce my hand.
1:33:37
SPEAKER_01: But like a dumb kitten with a laser pointer.
1:33:46
SPEAKER_01: The...
1:33:51
SPEAKER_01: Sentient beings were confused by these rainbow colored lights,
1:33:57
SPEAKER_01: which simply arose from their own clear light nature intersecting
1:34:01
SPEAKER_01: with their own lucidity.
1:34:06
SPEAKER_01: Spinning the illusions,
1:34:08
SPEAKER_01: but seeing those lights as appearing to be outside of themselves,
1:34:13
SPEAKER_01: reached out to grasp the rainbow.
1:34:18
SPEAKER_01: And so by performing action created karma,
1:34:22
SPEAKER_01: which created more sensations,
1:34:27
SPEAKER_01: which created more karma until it proliferated into all this crap.
1:34:37
SPEAKER_01: What we call that is the breaking of the youthful base body.
1:34:42
SPEAKER_01: That first action.
1:34:46
SPEAKER_01: Reaching for the rainbow.
1:34:50
SPEAKER_01: Beginning the chain of karma,
1:34:53
SPEAKER_01: that first action of grasping or rejecting based on the misperception
1:35:00
SPEAKER_01: of duality creates the time-space continuum.
1:35:07
SPEAKER_01: And that creation breaks the youthful vase body.
1:35:11
SPEAKER_01: Which is simply a very pretty symbolic way of speaking of outside of time, outside of space.
1:35:23
SPEAKER_01: Where has never known confusion.
1:35:28
SPEAKER_01: The moment there is movement, there is duality.
1:35:35
SPEAKER_01: The moment there is duality of self and other perception.
1:35:40
SPEAKER_01: There is grasping and rejecting,
1:35:43
SPEAKER_01: which creates the movement, which creates the karma, which proliferates infinitely.
1:35:58
SPEAKER_01: So the youthful base body simply refers
1:36:03
SPEAKER_01: to Beyond time and space and the creation of
1:36:07
SPEAKER_01: the time-space continuum,
1:36:09
SPEAKER_01: where there's point A and point B and something over a duration moves from point A
1:36:13
SPEAKER_01: to point B, which means there's time, duration and space, point A and B.
1:36:19
SPEAKER_01: That's called the breaking of the youthful face body.
1:36:24
SPEAKER_01: So when you see white Tara with a vase,
1:36:32
SPEAKER_01: And that is the vase of immortality.
1:36:35
SPEAKER_01: It is the youthful vase body.
1:36:37
SPEAKER_01: It is a symbol of this.
1:36:43
SPEAKER_01: Amitayas also holds the vase, the youthful vase body beyond time and space.
1:36:50
SPEAKER_01: You can see how this became associated with long life symbolically.
1:36:59
SPEAKER_01: But that's not what it's about.
1:37:04
SPEAKER_01: This moment is forever.
1:37:08
SPEAKER_01: Life is infinite.
1:37:12
SPEAKER_00: Next question.
1:37:15
SPEAKER_00: Once thoughts,
1:37:16
SPEAKER_00: feelings,
1:37:17
SPEAKER_00: and perceptions do not benefit or harm much,
1:37:21
SPEAKER_00: does that mean that treksha is, quote, accomplished, end of quote?
1:37:28
SPEAKER_00: And if so, what should the main practice be?
1:37:36
SPEAKER_01: It is not enough that they simply do not benefit much or harm much one's thoughts,
1:37:44
SPEAKER_01: feelings, and perceptions.
1:37:47
SPEAKER_01: But this awareness needs to be of course
1:37:56
SPEAKER_01: rather than a push.
1:37:59
SPEAKER_01: The awareness of natural mind needs to be an of course.
1:38:08
SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, treksha is not real treksha.
1:38:13
SPEAKER_01: It's preliminary treksha.
1:38:16
SPEAKER_01: It's a made thing.
1:38:19
SPEAKER_01: You must proceed past meditation to non-meditation, into not doing.
1:38:29
SPEAKER_01: There's a rushen to teach you that, how to not do.
1:38:36
SPEAKER_01: Hopefully next year in Poland.
1:38:38
SPEAKER_01: It's one I won't teach online.
1:38:40
SPEAKER_01: It's too buggy.
1:38:41
SPEAKER_01: People get into trouble with it.
1:38:44
SPEAKER_01: I don't feel comfortable teaching it outside of certain very specific environments.
1:38:50
SPEAKER_01: And you have to set up the mandala in certain ways and do certain things.
1:38:54
SPEAKER_01: One Lama forgot a piece and died in Europe some years back.
1:39:01
SPEAKER_01: And we all heard about it.
1:39:02
SPEAKER_01: It's like, oops, he forgot to make the spirit offerings.
1:39:07
SPEAKER_01: It's a dicey retreat.
1:39:11
SPEAKER_01: We're planning it for Poland
1:39:16
SPEAKER_01: next year and then we'll rotate around.
1:39:20
SPEAKER_01: We did it first in South America and then in Canada and then it gets done in Europe
1:39:29
SPEAKER_01: and then we're back to perhaps South America if facilities open up for it.
1:39:38
SPEAKER_01: Right now we don't have a good place in South America.
1:39:42
SPEAKER_01: We do have in North America, up in Canada, a place that works quite well for it.
1:39:51
SPEAKER_01: And we've heard that this place in Europe works quite well for it, in Poland.
1:39:57
SPEAKER_01: The place we used in South America last time I believe has been sold.
1:40:04
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know quite how that would happen again.
1:40:09
SPEAKER_01: But it's an excellent practice.
1:40:13
SPEAKER_01: And it gets you from the doing of a done meditation
1:40:21
SPEAKER_01: to the not doing of an of course.
1:40:27
SPEAKER_01: And that's a hard step for people to make because you can't do it.
1:40:35
SPEAKER_01: How are you going to do not doing?
1:40:38
SPEAKER_01: Everything you do is doing.
1:40:39
SPEAKER_01: Your practice is doing.
1:40:42
SPEAKER_01: To make that transference without stopping doing.
1:40:49
SPEAKER_01: Yes, sticky wicket.
1:40:50
SPEAKER_01: That's why we have a retreat for the purpose.
1:40:55
SPEAKER_01: And no, I can't tell you what we do in the retreat because it's secret.
1:40:58
SPEAKER_01: You sign up like a pig in a poke.
1:41:01
SPEAKER_01: And you're not allowed to do it within a year of a serious traumatic experience.
1:41:08
SPEAKER_01: Such as a death in the family of someone close, giving birth.
1:41:15
SPEAKER_01: Doesn't have to be a bad trauma.
1:41:18
SPEAKER_01: Retiring, not within a year if you've worked all your life.
1:41:27
SPEAKER_01: It's not that it'll hurt you if you do that, it's just that it won't work.
1:41:32
SPEAKER_01: And why waste your time on 11 to 30 days, 11 or 21 days of practice that isn't gonna work?
1:41:49
SPEAKER_00: Next question.
1:41:51
SPEAKER_00: I feel Tawa as a sensation or feeling of warmth with a strange experience of focusing.
1:42:00
SPEAKER_00: It is still, and I also noticed the moving from within it.
1:42:05
SPEAKER_00: How do I know if this is truly Tawa?
1:42:08
SPEAKER_00: It isn't.
1:42:09
SPEAKER_00: It has characteristics.
1:42:14
SPEAKER_01: Keep practicing.
1:42:15
SPEAKER_01: Hit it with peh.
1:42:18
SPEAKER_01: Or, you got two methods here.
1:42:20
SPEAKER_01: One is peh from three words of Garibdurji, Tziksunadeb text, and is common in the Nyingma line.
1:42:31
SPEAKER_01: And the other is a form of guru yoga in which you place your hands in this position,
1:42:37
SPEAKER_01: pressing on them considerably.
1:42:41
SPEAKER_01: And utilizing your speech chakra,
1:42:44
SPEAKER_01: which means out loud,
1:42:48
SPEAKER_01: pray to your teacher to enter your mindstream and bless you with
1:42:55
SPEAKER_01: the true realization transcending the experience.
1:43:01
SPEAKER_01: You have to do it out loud.
1:43:02
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't have to be complex.
1:43:08
SPEAKER_01: For instance, one of my favorite is, Help!
1:43:14
SPEAKER_01: I'm stuck.
1:43:14
SPEAKER_01: I'm stuck.
1:43:15
SPEAKER_01: This nyam is stuck.
1:43:16
SPEAKER_01: I can't get past it, please.
1:43:18
SPEAKER_01: Help!
1:43:22
SPEAKER_01: Sit at length for a while and then relax.
1:43:28
SPEAKER_01: Or there are many guru yoga prayers you may recite.
1:43:33
SPEAKER_01: They're all over the place.
1:43:37
SPEAKER_01: If you would rather use a script.
1:43:41
SPEAKER_01: Tibetans prefer to use a script.
1:43:44
SPEAKER_01: Westerners, not so much.
1:43:48
SPEAKER_01: If it has characteristics, it is this or that.
1:43:55
SPEAKER_01: If it is warm, it is not cold.
1:43:58
SPEAKER_01: You missed.
1:44:00
SPEAKER_01: You're caught in is's and isn't's.
1:44:05
SPEAKER_01: And they all aren't.
1:44:10
SPEAKER_00: Next question.
1:44:13
SPEAKER_00: What is the difference between mind and brain?
1:44:17
SPEAKER_00: And how do they interrelate?
1:44:21
SPEAKER_01: Brain is a solid object.
1:44:24
SPEAKER_01: Made up of a complexity of fat, meat, tissues, blood vessels.
1:44:34
SPEAKER_01: It can be damaged.
1:44:36
SPEAKER_01: It can be squished.
1:44:39
SPEAKER_01: It has a beginning in time and an end in time.
1:44:43
SPEAKER_01: It's an organ like a heart, a liver, a spleen, and it has certain functions.
1:44:53
SPEAKER_01: It is within the channels that run through the area of the brain that most of
1:45:00
SPEAKER_01: the sensory input is coordinated, not touch.
1:45:06
SPEAKER_01: That's coordinated more lower.
1:45:10
SPEAKER_01: But sight, sound, scent, and taste are all coordinated.
1:45:15
SPEAKER_01: The beginning of their coordination is in the head.
1:45:20
SPEAKER_01: The channels which happen in the head.
1:45:23
SPEAKER_01: Which exist in the same spatial environment as the brain.
1:45:29
SPEAKER_01: An organ of meat.
1:45:32
SPEAKER_01: Mind is another matter altogether.
1:45:37
SPEAKER_01: It does not have a beginning or an end.
1:45:43
SPEAKER_01: It is not yours or not yours.
1:45:49
SPEAKER_01: It lacks totally in
1:45:57
SPEAKER_01: It lacks totally in matter or shape.
1:46:03
SPEAKER_01: It's not round or triangular.
1:46:06
SPEAKER_01: Completely different mind and brain.
1:46:12
SPEAKER_01: There is an ignorant superstition common in the West.
1:46:18
SPEAKER_01: That they are the same.
1:46:20
SPEAKER_01: But if you examine their functions, you will clearly see this not to be correct.
1:46:27
SPEAKER_01: Next question.
1:46:38
SPEAKER_00: Does the thought of I come after the actual phenomenon?
1:46:43
SPEAKER_00: Where does the future concept of I plan or I intend to do something come from?
1:46:52
SPEAKER_01: Karma.
1:46:55
SPEAKER_01: The moment in the beginning
1:47:01
SPEAKER_01: that the perception of I and then their rainbows Causes
1:47:09
SPEAKER_01: the moment of the experience of grasping something outside of oneself.
1:47:15
SPEAKER_01: The duality, which is the separation of subject and object, arises.
1:47:20
SPEAKER_01: And that very duality is the concept of I.
1:47:25
SPEAKER_01: So it's old.
1:47:27
SPEAKER_01: Not real, but very, very old.
1:47:35
SPEAKER_01: And I'll take one more,
1:47:36
SPEAKER_01: and then I think we might be done for today, if we've got one or two good ones.
1:47:41
SPEAKER_00: Yes, we do.
1:47:42
SPEAKER_00: One off-topic question that's come up more than once is, how are the people in Sopima doing?
1:47:50
SPEAKER_00: People would really like an update on how they're holding up under the conditions
1:47:55
SPEAKER_00: in India
1:47:56
SPEAKER_01: right now.
1:47:56
SPEAKER_01: As well as might be expected.
1:47:59
SPEAKER_01: Those who are small shopkeepers...
1:48:03
SPEAKER_01: And I'm thinking of a particular student
1:48:08
SPEAKER_01: who is really heavy duty Dharma practitioner, old woman.
1:48:13
SPEAKER_01: Children are grown.
1:48:15
SPEAKER_01: All her time is spent in sadhana and practice and she supports herself with a tiny little shop.
1:48:21
SPEAKER_01: Well, of course, that's been closed for a year.
1:48:24
SPEAKER_01: So part of it is just making sure all these little shopkeepers,
1:48:30
SPEAKER_01: many of whom are heavy duty practitioners,
1:48:33
SPEAKER_01: Have food because they can't sell their shoes or jackets or whatever little thing
1:48:40
SPEAKER_01: that they normally sell to earn a living.
1:48:43
SPEAKER_01: It's really hard now.
1:48:46
SPEAKER_01: Medically, we do have oxygen.
1:48:51
SPEAKER_01: We do have COVID in town.
1:48:53
SPEAKER_01: We are in complete lockdown.
1:48:56
SPEAKER_01: Pretty much everybody is in retreat.
1:48:58
SPEAKER_01: I was talking to people yesterday.
1:49:01
SPEAKER_01: And nobody is going out or a few people do Cora,
1:49:04
SPEAKER_01: walk around the lake just to get a walk in with mask on early,
1:49:10
SPEAKER_01: early at dawn and with social distancing, but they're very careful.
1:49:15
SPEAKER_01: Three hours a day allows vegetable sellers are allowed to sell vegetables.
1:49:22
SPEAKER_01: I think only food sellers and pharmacies are allowed to open it all and do business.
1:49:28
SPEAKER_01: And that's only for three hours of the day.
1:49:31
SPEAKER_01: So you've got to get whatever you're going to do during those three hours.
1:49:36
SPEAKER_01: And I've got photos of town.
1:49:38
SPEAKER_01: It's utterly deserted.
1:49:41
SPEAKER_01: You see almost no people on the streets.
1:49:43
SPEAKER_01: Everything's shuttered.
1:49:46
SPEAKER_01: So it's a hard time over there.
1:49:49
SPEAKER_01: If any of you who are listening would like to adopt a person,
1:49:54
SPEAKER_01: maybe one of the practicing practitioner shopkeepers,
1:50:01
SPEAKER_01: Who are particularly hard-headed at the moment.
1:50:05
SPEAKER_01: Or a yogi or a nun or a monk.
1:50:13
SPEAKER_01: Please contact me, send me an email, but send me it separate from your practice questions.
1:50:22
SPEAKER_01: I have a team that helps me keep track of who's in need in the given moment
1:50:26
SPEAKER_01: because I can be a little spacey about things sometimes like losing the page
1:50:31
SPEAKER_01: that was right in front of me and thinking it didn't exist.
1:50:36
SPEAKER_01: So I have a team that helps me with that but I don't want
1:50:39
SPEAKER_01: to necessarily share your practice questions with them because that's personal
1:50:43
SPEAKER_01: and only I see those.
1:50:45
SPEAKER_01: So separate emails for I would like to sponsor someone And I'm stuck on XYZ.
1:50:54
SPEAKER_01: But if you can afford it, it's about 25 bucks a month.
1:50:59
SPEAKER_01: That'll keep somebody in food,
1:51:00
SPEAKER_01: although prices are going through the roof at the moment out there.
1:51:04
SPEAKER_01: And 30 would be better.
1:51:08
SPEAKER_01: But even 20 will make a big difference.
1:51:17
SPEAKER_01: These are hard times, and we're all in it together.
1:51:21
SPEAKER_01: The other lineage holder,
1:51:23
SPEAKER_01: Rinpoche's other lineage holder,
1:51:25
SPEAKER_01: Annie Boom Chung, is not really well, having trouble walking, very weak.
1:51:31
SPEAKER_01: She's back up in the caves.
1:51:36
SPEAKER_01: She is the teacher of the retro these days,
1:51:38
SPEAKER_01: and I do not know if she will live until I can get there and see her again,
1:51:43
SPEAKER_01: and she's my best friend.
1:51:49
SPEAKER_01: Impermanency is.
1:51:51
SPEAKER_01: I have no concern about her death.
1:51:53
SPEAKER_01: She'll be fine.
1:51:55
SPEAKER_01: She's already in her 90s.
1:51:56
SPEAKER_01: She's one of the great practitioners.
1:51:58
SPEAKER_01: She holds Rinpoche's lineage among the Tibetans.
1:52:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, two lineage holders, myself and her and Tsopema.
1:52:07
SPEAKER_01: I hold for the Westerners,
1:52:08
SPEAKER_01: she holds for the Tibetans,
1:52:11
SPEAKER_01: linguistically,
1:52:12
SPEAKER_01: although she has Western students and I have Tibetan students,
1:52:15
SPEAKER_01: so it's not like completely separate.
1:52:18
SPEAKER_01: We share.
1:52:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, hard times.
1:52:27
SPEAKER_01: If you want to help, send me an email to that fact.
1:52:30
SPEAKER_01: There are a couple of different things you can do.
1:52:36
SPEAKER_01: You can...
1:52:37
SPEAKER_01: We're pretty much okay on medical right now.
1:52:39
SPEAKER_01: Medical fund is nice, but you can add to it if you wish.
1:52:45
SPEAKER_01: Send me an email that you want to do that.
1:52:48
SPEAKER_01: We buy medicine.
1:52:50
SPEAKER_01: Currently, we're paying for Annie Boomchin's $65 injections for her lupus.
1:52:57
SPEAKER_01: We've got two oxygen tanks in town for emergencies.
1:53:01
SPEAKER_01: We've got the entire town being freely given masks and hand sanitizers,
1:53:07
SPEAKER_01: and all old people in the entire town receiving,
1:53:10
SPEAKER_01: who want it,
1:53:11
SPEAKER_01: receiving vitamin D.
1:53:14
SPEAKER_01: And we also have a stock of medications used to treat COVID,
1:53:19
SPEAKER_01: although none of them perfect,
1:53:21
SPEAKER_01: the steroids traditionally used if somebody's COVID goes bad.
1:53:28
SPEAKER_01: All of that we've already got.
1:53:31
SPEAKER_01: I don't think there are needs at the moment,
1:53:33
SPEAKER_01: but of course all of that will be used and consumed and eventually have
1:53:37
SPEAKER_01: to be replaced.
1:53:39
SPEAKER_01: If you wish to contribute to medical funds, send me an email that you wish to do that.
1:53:44
SPEAKER_01: No, my PayPal button is for personal offerings to me that you may wish to make
1:53:50
SPEAKER_01: because you want to.
1:53:53
SPEAKER_01: I am really not a good enough accountant to take all that that comes in.
1:53:58
SPEAKER_01: Through Lotus Kompa.
1:54:01
SPEAKER_01: And keep track of what goes here and what goes there.
1:54:06
SPEAKER_01: So please send me an email and I will tell you where to send monies
1:54:12
SPEAKER_01: for other purposes to support the yogis, to have prayers done.
1:54:18
SPEAKER_01: That's a big thing you can do.
1:54:20
SPEAKER_01: You can send money to the cave community or to the groups in town.
1:54:26
SPEAKER_01: Although they do not gather in groups,
1:54:29
SPEAKER_01: they all have cell phones and they all have text each other and they will sit down
1:54:34
SPEAKER_01: at the same time but in their own caves and do practices for people
1:54:40
SPEAKER_01: and I often send them phones.
1:54:42
SPEAKER_01: Specifically, if I get a bunch of requests for prayer, I think they're better at it than I am.
1:54:48
SPEAKER_01: So although I will do prayers for your relatives,
1:54:52
SPEAKER_01: I will also Send their names over there with a bit of funds
1:54:58
SPEAKER_01: and have prayers done there.
1:55:00
SPEAKER_01: That's how I spend my money.
1:55:02
SPEAKER_01: That's the fun thing to do with it.
1:55:03
SPEAKER_01: Everybody's got a hobby.
1:55:06
SPEAKER_01: That and cooking.
1:55:10
SPEAKER_01: You should see my spice rack.
1:55:14
SPEAKER_01: I digress.
1:55:15
SPEAKER_01: Do we have any other good questions?
1:55:18
SPEAKER_00: You brought up not being able to sleep earlier,
1:55:22
SPEAKER_00: and somebody actually had a question about is there a practice to work
1:55:29
SPEAKER_00: with having incessant insomnia?
1:55:31
SPEAKER_00: She's been suffering from it for a while.
1:55:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sit and track you instead.
1:55:37
SPEAKER_01: Or lie and track you.
1:55:40
SPEAKER_01: But if you've got a nice, comfortable seat that'll give you the proper position...
1:55:45
SPEAKER_01: Sit up in Treksha until such time as you feel the need and ability to sleep and
1:55:51
SPEAKER_01: then lie down and take a nap.
1:55:54
SPEAKER_01: If you do Treksha right with enough relaxation,
1:56:00
SPEAKER_01: although it is not a nap,
1:56:03
SPEAKER_01: it will benefit the body almost as much as real sleep will.
1:56:12
SPEAKER_01: And you can enter dream time from Trektya.
1:56:20
SPEAKER_01: A little bit more conscious, a little bit more aware.
1:56:23
SPEAKER_01: Not as easy as doing it from sleep, but doable.
1:56:31
SPEAKER_01: It's a vision instead of a dream, but it's the same thing.
1:56:34
SPEAKER_01: You see it, touch it.
1:56:36
SPEAKER_01: It's all there for you.
1:56:41
SPEAKER_00: One more if there's a good one.
1:56:45
SPEAKER_00: Holding my guru in my mind or repeating their name deepens my devotion.
1:56:50
SPEAKER_00: Is there anything else I should be aware of?
1:56:56
SPEAKER_01: Yes,
1:56:57
SPEAKER_01: it is necessary if you become close to the individual who you perceive as your guru
1:57:03
SPEAKER_01: that you recognize that it is the lineage that you are devoted to
1:57:10
SPEAKER_01: Which is always there, unchanging.
1:57:15
SPEAKER_01: The Buddha nature, not the personality which is in a state of flux and gets grumpy at times.
1:57:24
SPEAKER_01: And keep that in mind.
1:57:26
SPEAKER_01: Otherwise,
1:57:27
SPEAKER_01: if you actually do become close to that individual and get to know them
1:57:32
SPEAKER_01: and they grump at you, you're going to take it way too seriously.
1:57:39
SPEAKER_01: And I apologize to the last three people who got emails
1:57:43
SPEAKER_01: from me yesterday answering old questions.
1:57:46
SPEAKER_01: I was getting a bit tired and abrupt by then.
1:57:52
SPEAKER_01: So if it was kind of harsh and abrupt, please salt it.
1:57:59
SPEAKER_01: At least I did get back to you.
1:58:04
SPEAKER_01: Unless there is something pressing, I think we're done for today.
1:58:09
SPEAKER_00: There's a number of off-topic questions.
1:58:12
SPEAKER_01: Anything pressing?
1:58:15
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I had it in front of me for just a moment.
1:58:21
SPEAKER_00: Give me just one quick minute to find it.
1:58:25
SPEAKER_00: Can I use a yak bone mala for a fierce yidom?
1:58:28
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
1:58:31
SPEAKER_01: Especially suitable if the bones are a little bit rough.
1:58:37
SPEAKER_01: As in have like eyes carved in them or some bit of carving.
1:58:44
SPEAKER_01: It is considered unsuitable to use a rough textured mala on a peaceful yidim.
1:58:58
SPEAKER_01: The sensation of running the rough beads like rudratras which are rough
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SPEAKER_01: Through your fingers is very specific and goes with fierce archetypes,
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SPEAKER_01: not with peaceful archetypes.
1:59:15
SPEAKER_01: The smooth sensation goes with peaceful archetypes.
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SPEAKER_01: So to use a smooth mala with a fierce archetype is okay,
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SPEAKER_01: but not the reverse to use a rough mala with a peaceful archetype.
1:59:33
SPEAKER_01: And it is better to use a mala with some texture.
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SPEAKER_01: So have a look at how that mala is made.
1:59:40
SPEAKER_01: Some of them have textures, some don't.
1:59:46
SPEAKER_01: Anything else that seems pertinent and necessary before we close?
1:59:58
SPEAKER_00: I think we've addressed the more pressing questions.
2:00:03
SPEAKER_00: So I think we're good to close here.
2:00:08
SPEAKER_01: And I will see you all next week for Q&A next weekend.
2:00:14
SPEAKER_01: I think that's on next weekend.
2:00:17
SPEAKER_00: So any questions that you haven't gotten to today?
2:00:20
SPEAKER_01: You can put them up there when we start next time and we'll get to them then.
2:00:27
SPEAKER_00: We're all in this together.
2:00:30
SPEAKER_01: Us and our bugs.
2:00:33
SPEAKER_01: Remember that.
2:00:37
SPEAKER_02: Gye Wandi
2:00:41
SPEAKER_01: Nyur
2:00:44
SPEAKER_01: Duda
2:00:48
SPEAKER_01: Chichi
2:00:53
SPEAKER_01: Sala
2:00:56
SPEAKER_02: Gopashu
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SPEAKER_01: I'll see you all next time.