Latest / The Real Estate Agent Playbook / The Agent's Role in High-Rate, High-Price Markets
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- 0:00I get it, I have Agents all the time being like is now really a good time
- 0:06to buy and the minute that you set down That confidence and your ability to
- 0:11provide value for your clients And you're unsure of the market and unsure of how
- 0:17to advise people properly That's when you set down your ability to be your
- 0:22very best and step up in a time of need.
- 0:25We're going to go into all of this.
- 0:27We're going to talk a lot about the market, the high interest rates, the
- 0:29high appreciation, the high prices.
- 0:31So stay tuned.
- 0:37What's up guys.
- 0:37Jeremy Kane, real estate agent playbook.
- 0:39This one is something that I get often from my agents and sometimes I felt myself
- 0:45like is now really a good time to buy.
- 0:47And.
- 0:48I pride myself on being able to just advise, provide the facts, stick to the
- 0:53facts, know the facts, know the market.
- 0:55And that's exactly what we're going to talk about as we always do.
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- 1:13So let's kind of talk about this.
- 1:15And first and foremost, we have to get an overview of the market conditions.
- 1:19I'll give you a quick one, but you should know your hyper local market for sure.
- 1:22In Denver, we've seen record appreciation over the last four or five years.
- 1:26The last year or two going on 18 months, we've kind of seen high interest rates
- 1:30kind of creep in and that has really stagnated our price appreciation.
- 1:34I think last year we were, you know, two or 3 percent up overall.
- 1:39And you're talking median and it's a little less so, you know, for the most
- 1:42part we're pretty flat, which is okay.
- 1:44Especially considering what we've gone through over the last, really, 10 to
- 1:4815 years, in our real estate market.
- 1:50And so, if that's what's been going on in your market, which I assume it
- 1:53has, because those lower interest rates really jacked up the price, we're now
- 1:57left to sit here and be like, okay.
- 1:59We have this crazy appreciation.
- 2:00The cost of living is, is going up.
- 2:02The cost of milk is high.
- 2:04The cost of everything's high and the cost of the mortgage is high.
- 2:07Imagine that.
- 2:08And so as we continue to break that down, it certainly, puts people in a little
- 2:13bit tighter spot, when we're talking about it, but here in our market, when
- 2:17compared to rents, sure, your mortgage is going to be maybe two, three, 400
- 2:21higher than your rents, but people are making rent happen like crazy.
- 2:25And you really have no control over it.
- 2:28And so those rents tick up just as, just as the mortgage prices, just as the milk
- 2:32prices, everything kind of ticks up.
- 2:35And at the end of the day, we have to have somewhere to live.
- 2:37We have to have a roof over our head.
- 2:39And so as an agent, if you take a step back and you're like,
- 2:42okay, my job's to help people build wealth through real estate.
- 2:45My job is to help people make positive decisions.
- 2:47Now, certainly we're not going to be in a market where.
- 2:51This is going to be the greatest investment that doubles, you know,
- 2:54when you take a 250, 000 house and all of a sudden it's 450, 500, 000
- 2:58in a few years, like that, that's not realistic and that's not real.
- 3:02And we can't sell that.
- 3:04But what we can sell is a, a super secure, shelter over people's
- 3:08heads that traditionally is.
- 3:10In our market has appreciated between four and 6%, on the dot over 60
- 3:15years, pretty good investment, pretty safe place to lay your head.
- 3:20And so that's where we have to really talk about it.
- 3:22But in your market, those numbers might be different.
- 3:24So really dial in those numbers and just have that as a matter of
- 3:28fact, what we have done recently.
- 3:31Is really look at the investment and we talk about it and the appreciation
- 3:34and getting in and being able to get all your mortgage insurance off, you
- 3:38know, in a year or two when it should take seven and, and all of those things.
- 3:42And we, as agents don't really know what to do, right?
- 3:46I've coached agents who are like, I'm actually not.
- 3:48Super excited to make that call and pick up the phone and, and
- 3:52have the conversation that their house hasn't appreciated X, Y, Z.
- 3:56Well, step back and understand that right in that moment, that's when you're
- 4:01able to be a resource to those people.
- 4:03That's when you are most valuable when the decisions are harder, not when.
- 4:07You know, you can get into a house and it, you know, appreciates and,
- 4:11and everybody's happy and you can get, you know, your mortgage insurance,
- 4:13you can get, you know, you have 20%, you know, loan to value immediately
- 4:17and all the things like that's not really, and truthfully, that wasn't us.
- 4:22That was us just winning the bidding war to getting him in the
- 4:25house and then the market took it.
- 4:27So don't own it 100%, don't own the market, right?
- 4:31It wasn't your fault that they made so much money.
- 4:34It also isn't your fault when they.
- 4:35Don't make any money or they maybe lose a little because, you know, if they
- 4:40picked you up and called you right now and, you know, said, I need to sell
- 4:43this house, I just bought it last month.
- 4:45Well, there's no way that they're going to make the money after the
- 4:47fees and all that stuff, in reality.
- 4:49And even in those crazy markets, they didn't.
- 4:51So kind of take a step back as an agent and just be a resource for people, talk
- 4:55them through it, counsel them through it.
- 4:57If it's, you know, a divorce or, you know, they absolutely cannot stay in that house,
- 5:01for some reason that life came along.
- 5:04Like help them rent it, look at their options, right?
- 5:07People did actually used to take a loss when they, when they sold the
- 5:10home, not to say that's great, but in case of a life change like that, and
- 5:15they have to make a move, well, let's, let's exhaust all options, right?
- 5:20Head on over, try and try and rent it out for what you're.
- 5:23You know, paying.
- 5:24And right now the problem is that you can't rent your house out for probably
- 5:28what a zero down payment mortgage looks like, especially the next day.
- 5:33So you're going to have to do some things.
- 5:35You're going to have to figure out when the rates go down, refinance, and then
- 5:38those properties become, you know, break even or cashflow properties, but you
- 5:42can't promise those things up front.
- 5:44And so know that, and know getting into it, but also be
- 5:47a, be a problem solver, right?
- 5:51At the end of the day, the buyers make a commitment to pay that
- 5:54loan at that amount for 30 years.
- 5:57Whatever they have to do to make that happen, they can do it.
- 6:00You don't have to rent your house out so it cash flows or,
- 6:03you know, covers your mortgage.
- 6:05If it's that dire of a situation, maybe you're taking a hit.
- 6:08In fact, on my first rental, when I moved out of it, I was a terrible tenant,
- 6:12and there needed to be a lot done.
- 6:14There was somebody that was building a house in the, you know, canyon
- 6:17above, you know, Fort Collins.
- 6:19He wanted to move in.
- 6:20He said, this is what I can afford because this is what I'm doing, but
- 6:23I will, you know, take care of this.
- 6:24We'll get new carpet in, we'll paint, we'll do a lot of things.
- 6:27So he's using some of his extra supplies from his house to better my home.
- 6:31I paid for that.
- 6:33Right.
- 6:33I paid in the form of covering the mortgage and the difference.
- 6:36He was a great tenant, completely turned that house around for me.
- 6:39And so there are options, right?
- 6:41Sometimes we get so caught up in this, you know, we have to cashflow.
- 6:45It has to be this.
- 6:45It has to be that there's so many benefits to home ownership.
- 6:48And so when we, as agents are like, Ooh, it's a high, high interest
- 6:53rate, high price market, like, it's, it's just not a good time to buy.
- 6:57Well, Like if you're renting in my market, you're throwing
- 7:00away 000 a year to nothing.
- 7:03If you get into a, if you get in a home, maybe you have to have roommates and
- 7:08they're helping you out, you know, but if you're going to rent with roommates,
- 7:11I mean, maybe, maybe this works.
- 7:13Maybe that's an option.
- 7:15Right.
- 7:15So you gotta be very particular.
- 7:17You have to focus on affordability.
- 7:19I don't know how many times I've said, you know, call this lender,
- 7:22talk to him, but make sure you're talking about your monthly payment
- 7:26and what you're comfortable with.
- 7:27And granted, a lot of people are like, Hey, I need that
- 7:29payment under a thousand dollars.
- 7:30Well, that's not realistic, right?
- 7:32But we have to work through this.
- 7:34We have to make some sacrifices, maybe slow down on the Starbucks
- 7:37or, you know, the gaming memberships or whatever that is.
- 7:41And we can get in to get you a new home.
- 7:44So as an agent, we have to be able to counsel.
- 7:46We have to be able to talk.
- 7:48If you notice I'm not selling a property, I'm not selling a house, right?
- 7:52Look at it, make sure that, you know, it's in the affordable range, make sure that
- 7:57it fits all of their must haves, whether it's rooms for kids or extra bathrooms
- 8:01or whatever, and be that resource to help get them to the finish line.
- 8:07On that house that they choose and yeah, it's, it's expensive.
- 8:12I tell people all the time, there's not a time in the last three or four years that
- 8:17I've seen a mortgage payment come across the closing desk that is less than mine.
- 8:22And I have a 3, 600 square foot house in this nice suburb in Denver, right?
- 8:26And so that's where we have to really focus in and be like,
- 8:29okay, what's this look like?
- 8:31What's the outer world look like?
- 8:32What are they used to paying for rent?
- 8:33Yeah.
- 8:34And you're talking through this and you have to bring in the benefits, right?
- 8:39The benefits are no longer that it's going to double in value in
- 8:42three, four, five years, right?
- 8:43That those days are gone.
- 8:45The low interest rates are gone.
- 8:46It's also not really a benefit that, Hey, yeah, we can.
- 8:50Offer 100, 000 over and this is only going to affect your payment this much because
- 8:54the interest rates this like those days are gone So let's really look at it.
- 8:58Let's see what we're doing right because if we can educate and communicate
- 9:03the properly There's all kinds of resources There's money and concessions
- 9:07that we can build in to the offer that'll get the interest rate to an
- 9:10affordable rate They'll make sure that that mortgage pays off Payment
- 9:13on the monthly is obtainable, right?
- 9:16And it might not be uber comfortable, but can you do it?
- 9:20Can you commit to doing it for 30 years?
- 9:23Because if you do it, you get X, Y, Z.
- 9:27It's also important as an agent in these markets.
- 9:30High price markets, you know, higher interest rate.
- 9:33What's this look like?
- 9:34Because if we're pushing the limit on, you know, the monthly payment and your
- 9:38client is pushing the limit on that, not just what they're approved for, but
- 9:42what they're comfortable with, then we have to make sure that they are aware,
- 9:45Oh, that furnace is avocado green.
- 9:47Like the inspector said that that furnace is well past his life expectancy.
- 9:52The water heater could go, what's going to come up in these next, you
- 9:55know, five to 10 years where this payment is, you know, a little bit,
- 10:00you know, intrusive that we have to do.
- 10:03Your house has to have a furnace, your house have to do this.
- 10:05And so we also want to look at options, right?
- 10:08It may be a little higher monthly payment, but you're not completely blowing your
- 10:11entire savings account is the answer.
- 10:13Maybe you can get into a chaff alone here in Colorado or a down payment assistance
- 10:17loan somewhere else where you have the opportunity to keep that cash in case
- 10:21of emergencies, your rainy day fund.
- 10:23So these are the things that I'm talking to my clients about.
- 10:26And then it makes sense, right?
- 10:29It's like, okay, like, this is why I'm doing it because then just then we get
- 10:33to, you know, the 40 times greater wealth.
- 10:36This isn't a, you know, quick hit day trade, you know, crypto
- 10:40crypto boom thing, right?
- 10:41This is a place you get to live in.
- 10:43You get to make it your own.
- 10:44You get to improve along the way.
- 10:46And if you improve it, you take care of it along the way in our market in
- 10:49Denver, you're going to reap the benefits.
- 10:52But at the same time, we just can't be put ourselves in a position to
- 10:56have to sell when the market's down.
- 10:58And so these are the things that I'm talking to my clients about.
- 11:01And then at the end of the day, They're saying, okay, cool.
- 11:05And then the market is our friend, right?
- 11:07Because if the market goes up, that's great.
- 11:10They're, they're banking on that appreciation.
- 11:12They're getting there.
- 11:12They're building that loan to value up.
- 11:14They're going to get rid of their mortgage insurance when they get to that 80,
- 11:1720, and we're going to be ready to go.
- 11:19But if it's flat, you've prepared them, right?
- 11:22So who cares if you pick up the phone and say, Hey, how you doing?
- 11:25This is kind of what the market value is a little bit less than you bought it for.
- 11:29However, you still have a pretty big loan on that.
- 11:32And if you're just continuing to pay those mortgage payments, we're going to be okay.
- 11:35Is there anything that I can help you with, with the home?
- 11:37Like, you know, are you looking to do some improvements?
- 11:39Are you looking to, you know, make this home work for somewhere?
- 11:43We're looking to turn that office into a bedroom or, you know, things like that.
- 11:47And then I'm helping them manage the asset.
- 11:49If you can be a resource to them, no matter if they've made a hundred
- 11:53million dollars on their appreciation or their flat, or maybe lost a little,
- 11:57just help counsel them, be a resource because eventually the market will turn.
- 12:02Right through the worst downturn and you know the history of real estate homes have
- 12:06appreciated more than double What they were before the crash and so it's about
- 12:13not selling when it's low And if you do have to move you have to have somebody to
- 12:17talk to What are all my options because a lot of people think well, I can't sell
- 12:22it So I just quit paying the payments and foreclosure and all the things right?
- 12:26Let's look to rent it Let's couple it up, right?
- 12:29Maybe you have to rent it for this amount of money because this
- 12:32amount of money is this and you have to have money to live, right?
- 12:35Let's look at the budget.
- 12:36Let's see what we can do.
- 12:37Maybe you parse it out and rent it by room, right?
- 12:39In Denver, I know if you rent homes by room, you get a little bit more overall.
- 12:43It's a little bit more chaotic, a little bit more work, legwork.
- 12:46But at the end of the day, it might be worth it.
- 12:48And so just be that resource and don't be afraid to call people
- 12:52and have conversations because they need you more than ever.
- 12:55They don't need me when I'm calling them and be like, well, it's another
- 12:58year and you gained another a hundred K on your, your house value.
- 13:01That's pretty cool.
- 13:02Right?
- 13:03Oh, you need to refinance.
- 13:04Great.
- 13:05The interest rates are two and a half, right?
- 13:06It's not that anymore.
- 13:07So they need strategic partners and that's exactly what you can do.
- 13:11And that's exactly why you should be the one that's helping people buy in
- 13:15these higher interest rates, higher.
- 13:17Price markets, because certainly higher price markets, I guarantee
- 13:21you in California, they didn't think the first time home buyer
- 13:24was going to be spending 1.
- 13:252 million on their first home, right?
- 13:28Talk about a difficult market to break into.
- 13:30So let's talk about that.
- 13:31Let's be a resource and let's continue to help people understand and Gain the
- 13:37American dream, which is homeownership.
- 13:39So I hope this helps.
- 13:41I hope I gave you a few nuggets.
- 13:42If you have any questions or you would like to book a game plan, call with me.
- 13:45I'd love to talk to you about your business and help you understand
- 13:48and help prop you up and understand it's all going to be okay.
- 13:52Lots of changes coming, but this one will never change.
- 13:55Show up for your buyers, show up for your sellers, and you
- 13:58will be rewarded handsomely.
- 14:01We'll talk to you soon.