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Bonus Episode - Kick-Ass · Cage Match: A Roundabout Way of Meeting Nicolas Cage

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Oh, God. Oh, my God.
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Yeah, if I pull my wiener out, it's a new episode.
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And we're already on the third episode this minute.
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Double duck it. Yeah. Oh, perfect.
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Welcome back to Cage Match, a roundabout way of meeting Nicolas Cage.
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I'm your host, Sean, here with my co-host Nick and our producer Peter.
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Hello. And this week we are discussing the movie Kick Ass.
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Welcome back, Eric.
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I believe it's actually kick ass, kick ass, kick ass kick ass kick ass.
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Ass kick.
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It doesn't make sense to know.
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I thought that was a solid joke.
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That was a good one. It's a very good dad joke, at least.
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He was proud of himself.
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And that's what's important with dad jokes.
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Also the mustache. Great. Great. Dad's dash.
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Why is his name Big Daddy?
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Oh, I wouldn't.
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I can't figure that out.
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If you have a little girl sidekick, like who is the sidekick in this situation, too?
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I mean, it was Hit Girl.
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Big Big Daddy is the sidekick.
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Yeah. Well, he's like a mentor, right?
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I mean, like he's he's trying to get around. He's growing.
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Yes, exactly.
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He's Big Daddy's grooming.
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I mean, at least unlike the last time we watched Nicolas Cage get called daddy,
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it wasn't with weird sexual energy.
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When was the last time you got called daddy?
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Fucking matchstick man.
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Oh, well.
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Daddy.
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Was that the the con the con man movie?
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Yeah. OK, gotcha.
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So, Eric, you had seen Kick Ass before.
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Right. I had seen Kick Ass before.
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And maybe like you guys, you remember enjoying it more.
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When when did this come out? 2010.
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See, that makes sense.
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I would have enjoyed this more in 2010.
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I didn't do it more in 2010.
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I think I was on the opposite side of it.
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In 2010, I thought it was too much of a try hard movie.
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And I was like, I was too cool for it.
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I actually have a little anecdote about seeing this movie
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because I loved the comic when it first came out.
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Mark Millar, John Romita, Jr.
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But the comic shop I used to shop at comic outpost rest in peace
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was having a crappy superhero like costume contest to get early screening tickets.
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So my buddy Justin and I decided we were going to like dress up
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as like shitty superheroes.
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The only rule is your costume had to cost less than twenty dollars.
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So I took my old wetsuit that didn't fit me anymore,
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made a mask out of a scarf, put on like a Russian furry hat that I had.
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And I just cut out like a Safeway paper bag and slapped a D on the front of it.
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I was D bag. No words. And I won.
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Oh, good. Justin was my sidekick plaid lad.
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He just put on a bunch of plaid.
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But my battle cry was I'm going to punch you in the dick.
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And then the owner of the comic outpost
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and later that night went home, got into a fight with his wife
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and told her in the day told her I'm going to punch you in the dick.
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And she's like, where do you learn this?
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And he proudly said D bag.
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And then I got to see kick ass a week early in theaters.
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That's the best anecdote that you've ever told.
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That's really like that. That's better than this movie.
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I had never seen this movie and I actually really enjoyed it.
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I mean, I agree.
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I think it is kind of a try hard of that era, but it was a lot of fun.
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I mean, all it was missing was a fucking what's a serial eaten comedian
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who is awful and somehow still has a career.
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I think his name is Carrot Top.
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No, Carrot Top is amazing.
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Fucking shut up.
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I don't know. He always like Count Chocula made a thing.
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He's like, oh, you feel.
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I don't know. What are you talking about?
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Is this Cheddar Goblin?
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No, Cheddar Goblin is cool, though.
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I miss Cheddar Goblin.
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We all miss. I'm going to remember his name like halfway through this episode.
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And I'll tell you that. Shout it out.
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Yeah. Everyone shut the fuck up.
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Oh, wake your baby upstairs.
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Just good.
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Shouting this shitty comedian's name.
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Demetri Martin.
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Might be it. No, no.
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I like Demetri Martin.
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Is there a Dante guy, something Dante?
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Tell me about this movie.
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Well, again, I feel like for me who saw it
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or remember seeing it back in the day,
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I recall just like the best parts of like Nick Cage, like just being more prominent.
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I thought that was like more of the film and that and I wish it was more of the film.
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Same. I remember him having a much bigger role in this movie than he does.
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Yeah. So when I when I rewatched, it was like it took a really long time
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until he like jumped in there at all.
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That first scene that's that he's in there is is tremendous.
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I love it. Oh, where he shoots his daughter, where he shoots his daughter.
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Yeah. As a father of of a daughter, not much younger than than her.
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I don't know. Fantasy's have been had.
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That would be fun for the whole family. Yeah.
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Mostly you therapeutic.
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He looks like he's having a blast.
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So the cast of this one.
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So you've got Aaron Johnson, who I don't know if he did anything
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other than the two kick ass movies.
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He's he was Quicksilver in the age of Ultron.
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That's right. So he's Dave and also kick ass kick ass.
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Christopher Mintz, plus who everyone thinks that I look like him
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is Chris D'Amico and or Red Mist.
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Mark Strong is his dad, Frank D'Amico and Chloe Grace
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Moretz is Mindy McCready slash Hit Girl.
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And then Nick Cage is Big Bang Daddy.
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Rick Gotter. Daddy.
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Nick Cage did have a name in this, didn't he?
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Well, yeah, he's a there was so much.
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McCready. Oh, OK.
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Damon. OK, he did say that.
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Marcus most importantly.
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Yeah, Marcus is the good cop.
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Yeah, most importantly, the big tatter.
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The biggest daddy kick ass young.
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What we're doing, we're doing a high school movie.
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He wants to what superhero fantasy.
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He wants to be a vigilante.
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Somebody needs to do something.
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His friends talk him out of it.
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They say you would get your ass kicked.
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You would die. And what he tries to help somebody
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and he gets his ass kicked and he almost dies.
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It's stabbed and hit by a car. Yeah. Yeah. But.
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Stop going down that alley.
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Stop going down that one specific alley where there's two guys
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always fucking jumpy.
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But it's the shortcut.
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That's where what that's probably where like the fake kick ass got killed to.
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It's the same alley.
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That is crime alley.
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That's where fucking Batman's parents die.
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Oh, man. Oh, it's a bunch of stray pearls everywhere.
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So what he gets the he gets the nerve damage so that he is.
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I don't know.
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He can handle more.
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He can take more hits and he gets a metal implant.
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So so apparently could take some more damage, too.
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But still, he gets his ass kicked like a lot.
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You know, knowing old people who have fake hips, those things are not that sturdy.
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No, I don't think they're improvements usually.
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You're usually worse off.
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Yeah. So I guess my favorite.
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OK, this does my favorite part is, yeah.
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So after he gets mugged and gets a superpowers
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superpowers of being a dude who got mugged, a dude that got mugged.
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What? He can just get his ass kicked harder.
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The whole high school, because he was they think he was sexually assaulted.
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Think that he's gay now.
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Oh, yeah. Which is which is pretty generous of them.
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What his new best friend, Katie, comes up, not because she is worried about him
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because she thinks that he was just sexually assaulted and beat up in the street
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and left naked and for dead.
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And I was really she's excited to have a gay friend
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and has always wanted a gay friend ever since she was a child.
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I was waiting for the shoe to drop that she had other gay friends
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who just kept turning out to like be straight.
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And she was worried that she was turning all the gay men straight.
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And it's her own superpower. Yeah.
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So it's like really tearing her apart.
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It's the opposite of my superpower.
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I've always wanted a gay friend, but
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this piss is too good and it keeps just driving the men wild.
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They got all this milkshake.
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That's what that's what they should have gone with. Yeah.
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Oh, you turn you turn me straight.
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What am I supposed to do? We have to check.
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I can't confirm that I'm straight.
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Well, turns out I am. Yeah.
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Oh, so what Dave's been going, going, going.
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Dave starts going on vigilante justice missions or what?
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Just one via my space. OK, wait.
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No. So he has a my space account.
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But really. OK, so who does he go and talk to for Katie?
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Right. Oh, Raul. Raul. Raul. Raul. Raul. Raul.
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Oh, right.
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And were they were they an item?
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Ra's so cool.
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You know, it never clarifies like it really seems like it's just a hardcore
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drug dealer or something.
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I don't understand why they were hiding.
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She volunteers at the needle bank.
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Yeah. Suicide hotline and that kind of stuff.
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And Katie got in deep like she was fucking that dude. Yeah.
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So what? Up to this point, Dave has been, you know, what?
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Slap it. Slap in people in the street.
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Oh, yeah. Stuff like that.
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With his baton with it with his baton. Yeah.
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My favorite line from this film is like right before he gets into his
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like second major fight is kick ass.
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The one that makes him famous is he's trying to save a cat
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and just and right before he falls like that's how it happened.
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Yeah. Right before he falls off a billboard thing, he's just like,
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fuck you, Mr. Bidey.
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I love that the cat's name is Mr. Bidey, though.
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That's good. Why would you even go looking for that cat?
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Fuck that cat. That's what made him a hero.
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He's going to go save Mr. Bidey.
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Nobody else would help Mr. Bidey.
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They say fuck that cat. Yep.
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Turns out Mr. Bidey didn't deserve it.
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What? So Dave goes and confronts Razul in his like crime gang.
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Who? Kade is pretty sure that's who is still still weird that they that they hung out.
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I don't I don't know how they got involved.
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Like he sounded just like a junkie off the street, like he was in
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and slipped in the bushes or something like that, but he was moving weight.
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He worked for D'Amico.
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He worked for D'Amico. He was a made man.
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He had a doorman with a gun. Yeah.
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Like in their shitty.
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Like what is this guy doing in the needle exchange?
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He's giving them out with samples.
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He's there. He confronts Razul, says, you know, leave Katie alone
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and then tases Razul in the face. Face tases him.
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Yeah. And then that's a fucking you're starting a fight.
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Yeah. And then he gets like held down
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and Razul gets out the big knife
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and then gets stabbed through with this shitty CG sword.
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Yeah. But then we get the best scene in the film.
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Absolutely. Of Hit Girl just murdering three gang bangers
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and then killing a sex worker and a just guy who was just doing nothing.
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She she told me she was a sex worker.
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Are you just making assumptions now? Yes, I am actually.
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At least the woman did like pull like smash a bottle and pull a bottle.
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Yeah, I think the guy on meth just wanted to continue out of the bathroom
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and was like, oh, no, no.
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The meth guy was just there.
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There was another guy in the bathroom who just walked out.
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Oh, you're talking about the only white guy in the guy came out of the bathroom
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was also white, I think.
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He pulled a knife. He pulled a butterfly.
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You think just the white guy lived?
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Is what you think? No, he didn't. OK.
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No one lived. I think that the lady would have been OK, but she like
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she pulled a bottle. She was like, come at me.
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She got aggressive. Yeah, she did.
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You should have just begged.
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You beg for your life in that situation.
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I don't care how big I don't care how big a bodyguard you are
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or how big your gun is.
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If I saw two like bloody katana blades come through a door, I'm like,
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not paid enough for this. I just walk away and come back tomorrow.
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And that that woman, she watches all these guys get murdered,
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like in front of her, and they fought hard.
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And she's like, all right, like now you're now you're in for it.
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Yeah. Heineken bottle.
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But yeah, it was terrific.
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Seen what that was like Heineken.
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Flowy Grace Mertz is a big debut right there.
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I mean, she really was made a giant name for herself.
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Just murdering people.
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The insane cunt, the graphic violence and language
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was so shocking that it was just fun, fun for the family,
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for their family.
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I mean, she really kind of is the main character of the story.
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She's the one who has kind of the arc, like loses her father, gets revenge
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in the story that you wanted to follow.
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And that one random.
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Sorry, it was Dan Cook.
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What do you mean?
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Uh, Dan Cook was the shitty comedian
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that I was thinking would fit perfect in this movie.
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They absolutely didn't cook in cereal.
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Yeah. Didn't he do a thing where you're like, I don't know.
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I don't like his comedy.
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So like, I only kind of remember from college, like people.
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And he's like, oh, I love you, people.
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They're all.
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You know, I. OK, I hear it now.
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I totally I knew it was going to be named Cook,
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but I wanted to see if he'd find it.
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We got there.
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I had to go back through waiting.
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I knew he was in waiting and I had to work through that one.
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You had been a little tuned out for a while.
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Also, Luis Guzman was in waiting.
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Yeah, it's true.
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Oh, man, I love it when Luis Guzman shows up.
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Oh, he's don't.
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You don't. You know, Peter hates Luis Guzman performing in a movie.
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You haven't listened to our last episode.
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Yeah. Fucking Luis Guzman.
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What?
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I was talking about like kick ass.
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Just killed people. Yeah.
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Nick Cage in this is the best part of this film.
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He's not in it a lot, but he is the best.
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No, he's got like he got to do whatever he wanted.
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Yeah. It's like you get to be you got like five scenes.
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It's just like just ham it up.
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Eat, chew scenery.
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Like, I don't think anybody asked him to do Adam West.
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Why did he have kind of the Batman costume?
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Like, I don't know.
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I love it. I love how when they're interrogating that guy is like, no,
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but it's not Batman.
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I never said Batman is like Batman.
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Like him really similar.
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But we're not talking about Batman.
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And then the boss just goes, OK, so then Superman.
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No, it was Batman. It wasn't bad.
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I never said Batman.
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I loved it. I loved the detail with the mustache, the dustache.
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That's a good way to like disguise your personality.
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If the only thing that's going to be seen on your face is like your mouth area.
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But so and you're committed to having a mustache.
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He has distinctive facial hair. He has the proper like dad sash
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just like bushy just above the lip.
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But when he goes into superhero mode, he puts on like fake
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spirit gummed Fumanchu attachments.
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Oh, wow. Yeah.
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So and like we get to put it on part of the movie.
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And it made me think of this really shitty 90s like pornography TV,
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like superhero TV show Night Man,
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who was like a jazz musician by day and was a superhero by night.
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But his costume had a wig on it so people wouldn't recognize his hair. Sorry.
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He must have been a shitty jazz musician if he had to play jazz during the day.
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They like only good jazz musicians at night.
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So he's he's like daytime like he's the guy that does the intros on.
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He's just like,
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well, hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to my NPR show where I talk about the plants I'm growing.
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Exactly. Yeah.
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So I did it. I did.
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I did like the send five dollars, the mustache detail.
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It is valuable.
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I also didn't notice the mustache.
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The only time in a superhero movie where we see someone apply the eye black.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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What? So I don't much.
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I mean, OK, what guy, guy that Peter that people think looks like Chris
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for Mitzvah, I think that's unfortunate that they make that red mist.
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That they say that.
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I think you look so much like that other guy.
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I've absolutely also looks like Chris from Mitzvah.
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Wait, which one are you talking about, Tim Curry?
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Are you talking about?
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Oh, you're talking about Charlie Kaufman.
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But I'm not talking about Charlie Kaufman.
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He's going to find it.
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You're talking about Donald Kaufman. I get it. Yeah.
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No, that's me.
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What he comes in and as as red mist, I really didn't like him in the whole movie.
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No, well, he's kind of a cunt.
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He is. And he was he was a perfect.
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He was a perfect McLovin.
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Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
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Yeah. He did great role models.
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I don't know. Christopher Mitzvah.
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Yeah. But other than that, yeah, I thought I didn't like him.
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And I didn't like scenes with him in there.
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He was a character with a face that was perfect for punching.
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And he got very little punches to the face.
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Not enough punches.
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He does have a punchable face.
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Wait, fuck. Do I have a punchable face?
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Oh, no, not like that.
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Oh, thank God.
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Have you guys your face is punchable for different reasons. Excellent.
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Have you guys seen the what kick ass to never know?
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I saw a trailer for it to buff it.
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It's way they Peters look alike.
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I have a hard time learning the Christmas class.
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I it's the three names.
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It's always serial killers. Yeah.
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It's just extra effort.
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He's just so much worse in that one.
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They just make him so much more annoying.
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It's terrible. So I'm glad that says something because he is quite annoying.
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He's annoying.
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But like it's just like they just take it up to like a volume level.
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That's just really obnoxious.
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And just he's just yelling all the time and he shouldn't be yelling.
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He's just like more of a little shit in this one.
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Just me. It was funny when he jumped off the dumpster and he's like, Oh, fuck.
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I think I bet you I have a feeling like that was like not in there.
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And he's like, Oh, shit, that hurt a little bit.
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What do you think of the violence in this?
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What it was definitely made to be shocking.
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And it was fun when it was, especially when you had a little girl doing it.
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That was the that was the big thing of the movie.
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I thought it was just like little girls swearing and murdering.
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Yeah, you're hyper violent.
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Jay Barichel. Oh, yeah.
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I mean, more than Christopher Mintz plot.
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I think that one's way more fair.
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Yeah. Yeah. All right.
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Just without the voice.
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Oh, yes. The violence was I mean, no, this was this was meant to be like shock value.
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Like they gave the you know, the big black bodyguard bazooka.
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That was all the best. He never got to use it.
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It was his dream and it got taken away from him.
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D'Amico getting killed with the bazooka was it was a cool death at the end.
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That was a pretty decent way to go.
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I do appreciate this.
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I learned this from mythbusters that, you know, like with RPGs and like artillery
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like that, they have to travel a certain amount before they're armed.
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So like he gets hit in the hit in the chest of the shell.
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It flies him out of the building before it explodes
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because it would take that long to like trigger.
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I appreciated the attention to detail.
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I mean, that might not have been attention to detail.
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They might have just been like,
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wouldn't it be so much cooler if it tossed him outside and then exploded?
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If they didn't like blow up everybody in the same room. Right.
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Yeah, but it is nice.
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I'm like, that's true or not.
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So let's leave a sequel open.
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I did. I did really love the comic when it came out.
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I haven't read it since.
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I don't think it'll hold up.
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But this movie is barely grounded for the most part.
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I was going to say they lost me as soon as he named himself kick ass.
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Like he's sitting there and he's like workshopping names in his thing.
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And he's just like, it wasn't one of them like nighty night.
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Oh, God.
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I was like a night ass or like
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a night kicker or something like that.
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I would hope everything just ended with ass night.
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Yes. Well, again, what it was just so.
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Did you know something really?
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I don't know. Low hanging fruit to increase the shock value.
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But like this movie does try to like stay relatively grounded
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up until they give him a jet pack with fucking mini guns on it.
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I thought that's where he became a superhero. Really?
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I mean, that's when you started doing like some something
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other than just baton and people.
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Yeah, that's when he stopped sucking.
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Yeah. And started killing.
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He started. Yeah. He said he's calling like a last.
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Oh, he got OK with murder.
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You know, he fucking Gatlin a bunch of guys.
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He sure did. Yeah.
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That was the coolest thing he did in the whole movie.
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Yeah. No, he didn't hesitate.
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And he looked like he was having fun at that point.
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Yeah. Like he's like, why didn't I start murdering ages ago?
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He sort of overall sucks shit, right? Yeah. Yeah.
20:13
Yeah. It's a weird protagonist. Yeah.
20:15
Again, like the story is really a hit girl story. Yeah. Yeah.
20:18
She comes in and she's the real story.
20:21
And that opening scene, you're shooting his daughter in the chest.
20:25
It was such a good and they have a lot of good father daughter moments.
20:28
They play it really well.
20:29
I also want to say this movie does do one thing where it's like kind of Bucks
20:32
tradition where you have like the mafia father who's like ashamed of his son.
20:36
Now you have a very supportive mafia father.
20:38
Yeah. Who likes his kid and takes him to the movies and gets him popcorn.
20:41
Nice little mafia family unit. Yeah.
20:43
But you knew he was a monster because he got Twizzlers.
20:47
I love Mark Strong.
20:48
Explain his movie theater. Yeah.
20:51
I enjoyed him at the like theater, but like I I really liked him
20:56
going through his order of like that's what I'm talking about.
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You get this and this getting a Twizzlers and some this and slushy
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and slushy red mix with blue.
21:06
Oh, man. You remember when he's going through
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he's chasing the fake kick ass. Yeah.
21:11
And kick ass gets like a couple high fives and he's like high fives.
21:14
What the fuck is this high five motherfucker?
21:17
I'll give you a high five. High five your mother.
21:23
You really went OK.
21:24
Mark Strong is so good.
21:25
I keep thinking that he and Cage had another movie overlap,
21:28
but it's because I keep mixing it up with the dude that was in the Humanity Bureau.
21:32
Oh, yeah. Definitely not the same guy.
21:35
The guy's wait, Matt Damon.
21:39
Different. You're going to have a different humanity.
21:41
There are different things.
21:42
Who was in that? You're thinking of this cage was.
21:44
And I know what you're thinking of a different humanity or a different
21:47
beer, humanity report that now it was a bureau something.
21:52
Yeah, it was a beer.
21:53
Something might have just been the bureau.
21:55
So what do we think in terms of the Venn diagram?
21:58
Good cage, bad cage, good movie, bad movie, good, bad, bad, good, bad, bad, good, bad.
22:03
Well, again, man, Nick Cage made the movie better.
22:07
Yeah, every way.
22:08
And he should have been in there more.
22:10
Also, one of his best death scenes to date.
22:12
Oh, absolutely. Good Lord.
22:14
I like burning and shit.
22:16
He's yes, he's.
22:17
Oh, that's true.
22:18
Kryptonite.
22:20
Kryptonite. Oh, my.
22:23
That's the delivery still hurts me.
22:26
I don't like that at all.
22:27
I remember when I saw it the first time, it's just like, couldn't you prioritize
22:31
like putting out daddy fire first?
22:34
Like, that's what I tell my kids if I'm going to teach him anything.
22:37
If daddy's on fire, pee on him.
22:39
Daddy's on fire and kill everybody.
22:41
I mean, what the hell for the schools were around them.
22:44
She could have at least not be burned and knocked him out of the fiery area.
22:49
Right. Just not the chair back burning underneath him.
22:52
Yeah, I do.
22:52
And then you start.
22:53
I do like the doom style first person like night vision, like, oh, no murder scene.
22:57
Little the little girl murder scene.
22:59
Yes, whenever she was killing people.
23:01
Great. Yeah. Her fight.
23:03
Mark Strong, like just like, oh, man, that is a child.
23:06
Like when he just like grabs you by the throat and she's like
23:08
dangling two feet off the ground.
23:10
Oh, it's while getting punched.
23:11
It's the reality of the situation.
23:14
She's just a little girl.
23:16
Yeah, but then he's a Mark Strong man.
23:18
Oh, eventually you're going to hit back.
23:20
Oh, man. In the comics, though, like when Hit Girl gets captured, like
23:23
they take a tenderizer to her face.
23:25
I'm not familiar with the source material.
23:28
It's again, I remember enjoying it when I read it and I read it
23:31
before the movie came out.
23:32
So I'm sure my opinions will have changed.
23:34
But also John Amita Jr.
23:35
Drew it, who did all the art for the movie.
23:37
And I absolutely love John Amita Jr. I think Good Cage.
23:41
I'm going to say Good Movie. Good Cage.
23:43
Fine movie. Oh, what?
23:45
I definitely say Good Cage.
23:47
Fine movie. OK, good, good movie.
23:49
Those those quintessential cage moments of him screaming,
23:52
him just being wacky for no reason, just introducing character traits
23:57
that maybe nobody asked for, you know, all good things.
24:01
If this movie was on TV and I came across it on or near a scene
24:06
with Nicolas Cage, I would watch it.
24:07
But if I was just scrolling through and it was just like kick ass
24:13
talking about stuff, I might just come back later.
24:17
Right. That's not what's going to grab you.
24:19
Yeah, no.
24:19
So it's not enough reason to stop and watch the movie.
24:22
But Nicolas Cage would be.
24:24
I do want to point out one difference between the movie and the comic.
24:27
And the comic would make more sense with the Adam West presentation.
24:31
Because in the comic, he's just like a weird super fan,
24:34
like weird comic fan.
24:36
And when Nicolas Cage's character.
24:38
Yeah. Big Daddy.
24:39
And when like D'Amico's people like finally capture him
24:42
and they like open up like his bag of guns,
24:44
it is just like first edition Spider-Man's.
24:47
Like he's not a cop.
24:48
He has no like crime fighting history.
24:50
He's just a fucking guy who wanted to be a superhero.
24:53
The cop angle, I think, makes more sense for how deadly he actually is.
24:56
Yeah, it makes more sense for this movie, or at least makes it more fun.
25:00
It was strange that he was watercolor painting
25:03
all of the good at it, too. Yeah.
25:05
And that's all John Amita Junior.
25:07
But yeah, how often do you have somebody write their confession in comic form?
25:13
But when Marcus shows up at the at the safe house, Marcus reads the comic
25:18
that is the origin of Big Daddy and Hit Girl.
25:21
Not only did you write a confession, you illustrated it and water colored it.
25:25
Yeah. Here's a storyboard.
25:27
And then it's going to get burned.
25:28
And then later on, Hit Girl just reading it.
25:30
Mindy's just reading it.
25:32
Oh, Big Daddy. Big Daddy. Big Daddy.
25:36
Oh, I hate it. I hate it so much.
25:39
I'm going to send you a Christmas card this year and be like,
25:42
Merry Christmas, Big Daddy.
25:44
Oh, no. Rachel's going to be so confused.
25:48
And it'll just be a picture of me and Sean laying on a bed like looking at hamsters.
25:52
Yeah. Gazing lovely at guinea pigs.
25:56
I don't know. Just just a watercolor Nick Cage face with that mustache would be.
26:00
That's all I need. Would be just fine.
26:02
That gets me over the edge every time.
26:05
Hmm. And then Big Daddy.
26:09
OK, how do we wrap that one up?
26:11
Yeah, that that wrapped itself up.
26:13
Yeah, I think we're good then.
26:15
Yeah. Cut right in the middle of one of those big daddies.
26:18
Big Daddy. Oh, God.
26:21
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26:24
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26:26
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26:35
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26:47
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26:55
Big Daddy. Big Daddy.
26:58
Indeed.
26:59
And everybody biggest that is.
27:12
That sounds like a John Grisham book, the Bureau.
27:16
I think it probably was.
27:17
No, that was the firm.
27:19
The firm, what?
27:21
Oh, nice.
27:23
The firm Pelicans briefs.
27:25
Yeah, nice.