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- 0:00SPEAKER_05: Marazote rama mara nyingi, pale mbapu mtumume na mtu mukio napu kutana kwa jilia kwwanzisha familia, kupata wa toto kwani inakwani kati ale malengo maku, ama yale malengo ya muhimu, ja kuwa pa mwjela.
- 0:13SPEAKER_05: Kini sivio bahati, si wa tuwote huwa wana pata hio huo wezo wa kupata wa totu la kini yuko mungine, anaw tayari ana wwezo huo wa kupata mtotu la kini, akatamani kuwongeza familia, nje ile mbayo, yukunayo na hapon di yo unakuje ule utaratibu, ambao unafahami kaza idi kama adoption.
- 0:36SPEAKER_05: Kwaluwa eki swahili, kuwa sili.
- 0:38SPEAKER_05: Ambapu siku kadaze, li zopita kama simi ezi kada ili opita, la iso ja mhuria mungano wa tanzania li fanyye hivyopia, kwa yule mtoto ambaia li kwa nimtoto mchanga, li kwa me tele kezwa, na waza ziwaki, alienda kwacho tu sehem.
- 0:52SPEAKER_05: A kamchiku wa kamfanyye sehem ye familija yake, nahapon dipo ili neno kwa sili, kuwa sili likadje, wwengio katamani kufahamo.
- 1:00SPEAKER_05: Kwani kwa sili ni nini, nane naweza kwa sili.
- 1:03SPEAKER_05: Ama eyeali weza kuwa dob tko sababi yna fasijake.
- 1:06SPEAKER_05: A saukeli ni kwamba oyota naweza kufanya hive.
- 1:09SPEAKER_05: Na kwa kuwa elimuhini pana, tu meketi hapana mtalam kutoka ustay wa jami.
- 1:16SPEAKER_05: Yeni a fisa usaywa jami mwandamizi, bi ludovika samari.
- 1:20SPEAKER_05: Mbay tzunggumzanevi tuvingi sana, kusiana nahili, la ku asili mtoto.
- 1:25SPEAKER_05: Bi ludovika karibu sana mailezo podcast.
- 1:27SPEAKER_01: Asanti sana.
- 1:28SPEAKER_05: Sisitwuna furahi kuwa ku nawe.
- 1:30SPEAKER_05: Usay wa jami sasahivi, uhiongozo na wazili mwyedamana, mposana, yane mposana kwany mitanda kijana.
- 1:38SPEAKER_03: Sana sana.
- 1:39SPEAKER_05: En sasaivi uki uki taka kuona vila mbavio, unaweza kupishana usayi wa jami, yambola korifike mtandaon.
- 1:47SPEAKER_05: Sasa.
- 1:47SPEAKER_05: Mona piata uh mtani uku.
- 1:50SPEAKER_05: Sasaivi ukatili, watu elim wangalawi mianza, kuwafikia, hongere ni kuhilo.
- 1:56SPEAKER_01: Namshkuru mwishmio wazi kwa sidea sana.
- 1:59SPEAKER_05: Kabisa, mm presence mba kuna presence mtanda mtandaonya nasem.
- 2:03SPEAKER_05: Wa no na inaside.
- 2:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, inasidea sana, anatusa idea fishy elim sana tu nabitu vingi anwasidia kuelewa.
- 2:10SPEAKER_01: Uh bilan boba tuli takiok fanya sisi susaya natusa idea pakyasikuwa na uzulu na mwangalia o li wengi ko nyumbo napika kereis.
- 2:17SPEAKER_05: Twanzia konyehili la ku asili mtoto ama ku adopt.
- 2:22SPEAKER_05: Niele wenini kosabiuko mungina naweza kawa haja adopt la kini kokua hafahamu kuasili ni nini akahisi mimi memuasiliu.
- 2:31SPEAKER_05: Ali mleya mtoto wa kakayake, ama ali kutana namtoto konye kitua flancha kulilea, toto ya tima, uh, akamchiku amani mtoto wajiraniake, hanababa, wala mama, penginea wazazi, lakini ayuko konye kitucha kuleleo, totua tima kakanaya, kam sumesha, akahise mekusha kuasili.
- 2:49SPEAKER_05: Kwasili ni nini kwa.
- 2:51SPEAKER_01: Kwa sili ni mchakatuwa k shiria.
- 2:53SPEAKER_01: Lazimu pitiem chakatu akisheria, uhi natorioni kwa mujibu akiria mtoto, uhula nabakumi na tatu.
- 3:01SPEAKER_01: Pikenda pamuja na kanunie, yaku yaza wasi uwa toto.
- 3:05SPEAKER_01: Kwayo katika wum chakatu ak shiria inamana kuna tuam tu antakiozi pitiye, navalu napoka miliche in a manana hakizote zamsingi zamzazi, zina mia kwamzazi mwa siri.
- 3:16SPEAKER_01: Kwazi kiamya na mana kwamzazi mwasi na mana ulim totu nata kyoko kanai ma shakoyote.
- 3:22SPEAKER_01: Yani wuna pe unampa maleziya kudumu.
- 3:24SPEAKER_01: Kwaena manana hadi haki zote ambazu nata kyoko mpatiam ttuako, zina mia pia kumtotohuyo.
- 3:30SPEAKER_05: Ukusema hakizote, uhimeona, wengiya kifanyahive komfano tu to mietu scenario ya pa moshimiorais.
- 3:38SPEAKER_05: Jina la uem toto lambele, anab ali kwana baba, anamama, lakini gina aluem toto mbele, ri kabadilishoni la zima kufanyvo.
- 3:46SPEAKER_01: Hm uh, kwenilo sio la zima, kwa sababu navo kami shamchakato mishwa siku napewa cheti.
- 3:52SPEAKER_01: Kakupitiya rita.
- 3:53SPEAKER_01: Kwa kile cheti in dokita kuta brucha weekama, ytoto ambia siliwa.
- 3:57SPEAKER_01: Lakini kwa walio wengi kwasasa wanapenda kuabadilisha majina.
- 4:01SPEAKER_01: Kwa walio wengi wanafanyyevo nabadisha majina.
- 4:03SPEAKER_05: Tuna badisha jina la kwanza ma la musho.
- 4:05SPEAKER_01: Ubiniwako.
- 4:06SPEAKER_01: Naba of kwa zeta la kwanza inategi me makia wa totoengiambo hassa wali o kwa tikkama kawa toto, wanakwa lyo koton wakapua given name, so majjina, arisi.
- 4:14SPEAKER_01: Komze aneza kamchikuwa ki wam chanka kamuwa kumpatia jinam prapendizwana.
- 4:18SPEAKER_05: Nakunyehili pia mtoto mwye umbrigani anaweza kuasilio naweza ngautana mtoto na miyakazake kumi, uka mwa kumuasilia makumu adopt inarusu akabisa, yanim tototoyote ali chin ulu miakakumina nani kamashirina kosema.
- 4:34SPEAKER_01: Totoyote anata kiwa nawena umbri chinia, miya kumina nane komtotoyote na rusuakwasilio.
- 4:39SPEAKER_05: Tuna pato hapi uhoto to na pente kes one sostarajami.
- 4:44SPEAKER_01: Mhm I've saw stuja me at uh fanya uchungguzuake, wengi amini almasha winy one ofuana ta y wanalistia wa toto andbona sifasaku wasil.
- 4:53SPEAKER_01: Co I saw straw ya mindu at a pentekesa pingini kutuka katika makawa toto, uhutoka mtu tunu to kwa minika, our piya andiza kamtua katika familia pingini umbo, to nasema ina ina changamoto kiuchumi wasazu nyu na rizia kumtuam toto.
- 5:08SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 5:09SPEAKER_05: Tubaki kwenye hilo kwans.
- 5:11SPEAKER_05: Yani unawazo kua sili mtoto mbaye babayake yupo, mamayake yupo la kini kosawabuya, maisha magum i me kadi mtu emtu petisha.
- 5:20SPEAKER_01: Pengina unakutalaba mzazia nashindo ku kidi maitadia mtoto.
- 5:25SPEAKER_01: Naime tokiya ku namutu ananiya penginea kumpatia umaitajiyote.
- 5:29SPEAKER_01: Kom zazi ya na rusiwa kumtoyum totu kwa kutua riza.
- 5:32SPEAKER_01: Anatwa liza yake aksheliya lakini, akitoyo liza ina mana kwamba, haki zote iznamia ko uli mzazi mwasi.
- 5:39SPEAKER_01: Kwena bidiya ayrimisho viakutosha, akirimisho viakutosha na sostoa yamina kakubaliana na ilo, ana rusiwa mtuto kuchikuliono yumtu pengini.
- 5:46SPEAKER_01: Lakini haki zoti zamsingi zamzaz.
- 5:49SPEAKER_01: Lazima ziya mye kumtoto.
- 5:50SPEAKER_01: Nazikshia miyaku mtoto, inamana kwamba, hakizako emtoto sasa kwa kuule koilliumzza zwako awali, zna siz.
- 5:56SPEAKER_01: Twasema wna kwa wuna haki ten nazaksheria ku kule ko inapotokia laba, eki tokia ta ikiwa wazazi awapote na dunyani, nata shele mesha se makabisa, uki shapewa haki katika upanto wa mzezwakwa kwa sili, a ilusi we kupata hakizako tena kwa wilemza zwaku wawadi.
- 6:11SPEAKER_01: Inamana mzazwa kbayrojia.
- 6:13SPEAKER_05: Yani ikatoke ule mzazazi mbay amemwasili mtoto, uhai alikona wazazi kabla, akafariki mtoto hawezi kurudi tena kupata hakizake, kuha wazazi eenu iina itwa hakuna kurudi nyi amkunakuri nyu mayani yme meshend mbere kabisa.
- 6:29SPEAKER_01: Ko ina mana hakizako zoto tazi pata, kuwa mzazi wako huyu humpia uku, izna kwazi mesis.
- 6:35SPEAKER_05: Ah, niliwahi kusikia mahali, kama si ku kutazama na dani.
- 6:40SPEAKER_05: Nikomba ikitokeme mwa sili mtoto umba labda ali kwa konye umri mbao hakuana ji faham.
- 6:49SPEAKER_05: Asema si sawa, bada ye kuja kumwambia iokitu.
- 6:53SPEAKER_05: Em ni ni tu e kesawa kwahiri utaratibu mtoto kumfa hamisha amakuto kumfahamisha.
- 7:00SPEAKER_01: Ah, sheriya na dani imetoa, imetoa room kwa mzazu elia siri.
- 7:06SPEAKER_01: Pengina rimchwam to tuakiwa mchanga.
- 7:08SPEAKER_01: Mm, uh, walio wenge watamani sana kwa ambia watoto kumba mimi suma mayako.
- 7:13SPEAKER_01: Dumana tukiangarawa te jetuengi wanataka sana wa tu wamboniwa.
- 7:16SPEAKER_01: Oko chine miakamitano wambobado jipato found vizui kwa sabu wanataka yami jue nimtuake, neme wenye piam totu wajuye kumba e ni mzazuaki, walio wengi.
- 7:26SPEAKER_01: Lakini haki mtoto kuyua uhyyake, kone shire peli imetamka ni mui mumtoto kujuye istoriake, kujuwayeye wazazuaki background diake wasazwake niwakinanani, pengine pamujiatana utamaduniwake, inarusiwa.
- 7:40SPEAKER_01: Lakini metokia katika wazazuenge wa kwasiliwa awapendezu nechokito.
- 7:45SPEAKER_01: Na wunakuto sowengi oruasiwa, our farm kamo nyo masiwa.
- 7:50SPEAKER_05: Mtoto bado na kuana hake kujuye background diyake, kujuwa andu guzake.
- 7:55SPEAKER_01: Kisheria nayo hake.
- 7:56SPEAKER_01: Lakini pia io shelye memrusu nzazi mwye mwa siri, aweze kuamua, kumuereza, ha ukuto mwereza.
- 8:05SPEAKER_01: Bana bado sa kisheria kituke alaba ni mtu mwinine andenda kutua information nyo komtoto.
- 8:10SPEAKER_01: Yo nikosak sheri.
- 8:11SPEAKER_05: Tite to pite hapu kwanza.
- 8:13SPEAKER_05: Mhm.
- 8:13SPEAKER_05: Mtu tu wekesawa msemani hakiya yule mtoto, kufahamo background yake ma histori, akia numa uhama duni wake, lakini antakua faham kutoko komtu moja tu.
- 8:24SPEAKER_05: Uhwaye ni mzazele mwa sili.
- 8:27SPEAKER_05: Ndio kwa akifam kuto komtu anje imekaji.
- 8:30SPEAKER_01: Io tali nichangam ku nichangamoto, uy mzazi mwa sili nzakamstaki.
- 8:35SPEAKER_01: Eh, kishirya kabise na kiwa ma ienze kanakamu akamstaki.
- 8:38SPEAKER_01: Kwa sababu, ye pekeakindu anhaki ya kummu reza mtoto pengi naka maka siliwa awajia siliu.
- 8:44SPEAKER_05: Tuno kotu no kuepanini nia po kwenye kumfanya mtupeke mye wezo kwi shape am kumwambia historiya yake awen mzazi re mwsi.
- 8:52SPEAKER_05: Tuno kotuna kuepani ni kumbasi mbiona outside mamtu wanji.
- 8:56SPEAKER_01: Nadaniye neneza kamo thili pia ki psychologia yeye pa mwye na mzazi pia.
- 9:01SPEAKER_01: Sasawe nafamu babayangwa fumtubaki anakuyana kumbbi a sivio.
- 9:05SPEAKER_01: Atilistu kemby na babako mwye inakwa atilisti inasai dia.
- 9:08SPEAKER_01: Kuliko kupyowa namtu ambe.
- 9:12SPEAKER_05: Ambay sio sio mzazi mbe u naishina.
- 9:15SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 9:15SPEAKER_05: Banahini malezo podcast.
- 9:17SPEAKER_05: Ifia na sulema ni kohapa ni meketi nabiludovika samare, eni afisa ustawi mwwandamizi.
- 9:23SPEAKER_05: Afisa ustawi wajami mwwandamizi.
- 9:25SPEAKER_05: Kutoka wizara ya ustawi wwajami.
- 9:28SPEAKER_05: Kuba mbaltu na zungkumzia wizaraya wizaraya maindeleo ya jami.
- 9:33SPEAKER_05: Na, ivi vitu na dani konza kablaf jendambali.
- 9:36SPEAKER_05: Tofauti ya maindelewa jami, na ustawi wwami.
- 9:39SPEAKER_05: Kosabu kustawi ni kukua.
- 9:41SPEAKER_05: Lakini maindeleo pia the sam.
- 9:43SPEAKER_05: Tofauti vivitu.
- 9:44SPEAKER_05: Kosabu na kumuka tuna ungeof mike ilikuwa hi pia inatoke marakuma.
- 9:49SPEAKER_01: Izi nikada nbili tofauti, ustay wa jami nikade tofauti na maindelewa jami nikada tofauti na kila mto na majikuumu tofauti kabisa.
- 9:58SPEAKER_01: Seme mekwa tuki tunafanya kaze kwa kuširi kiana, muda mwgi tukowote tuko wizara moja kwa se nkine na yta konfusion lakini ni wantua wili tofauti.
- 10:06SPEAKER_05: Kwye konye konyehi ya uh ya kuadopt, inangukia kunye ustaywa jamina siyo.
- 10:13SPEAKER_01: Makuye ustawa jamina mwenye the mana ki sheri, kutowa kibaricha elvicha kuwa sili pa mojana na marezia kambo, ni kamisha ustawa jami.
- 10:23SPEAKER_05: Ah, wwana.
- 10:24SPEAKER_05: Twendeleya kujifunza kila siku na sema elimuni bahari, kwa ivo, sisiya tutu acha kuyu gelea, haina mwisho, na kila siku nawzidikwa nawzidi kufumbuakina kipya, andelea tu kufuatana na sisi hapa.
- 10:37SPEAKER_05: Kuna hili mbalo uhamantu le yuwe hivisasa.
- 10:41SPEAKER_05: Nani mbaya na toa uhana anatwa kibali ume umuekusha liweka wazi ha.
- 10:49SPEAKER_05: Kito kingini pia mbacho ni kwa na tamani, kunakito mezungum zapa, kuna malezia kambo, pamuye na kwa sili mtoto.
- 10:58SPEAKER_05: Tofautiaken ninin.
- 11:00SPEAKER_01: Uh Malezia kambo naye na tuloko mujibwa shiria, na kanunia malezia za malezi ya kambo zamake kupirina kumina meli.
- 11:06SPEAKER_01: Na kamisional stadiamindu anetu waki baricha malezia kambo.
- 11:10SPEAKER_01: Lakini imalezia kambo tuna semani ya muda.
- 11:13SPEAKER_01: Ya ntuasemani malezi ya muda, wuduma ya muda mbo mlezi amini mleziwa kambo anamu kuito, kwa yariake mwye, kwaamtoto.
- 11:21SPEAKER_01: Ana eza kakana uyumtoto, ni uduma bona jitegeme namana, lakini anzakakana uyum toto, adia taka ikafia muda kuditambua, pingine na kujitegemea.
- 11:31SPEAKER_01: Lakini hawezi kubadili sheri statasi yamtoto kisheria.
- 11:34SPEAKER_01: Lakini tukeda kwye kwa sili sasa statasis zamtoto kisheria z nabadilishua.
- 11:39SPEAKER_05: Anakwani mtoto wako.
- 11:41SPEAKER_01: Anakwani mtutuako kabisa, wakudum, lakini kwa upanto wa malezia kambo inakwa niya muda.
- 11:46SPEAKER_05: Blabda labda nikupe scenario a lafun ni mbie ini kwa silia mani malezia kambo.
- 11:51SPEAKER_05: Kuna mkua wilaya kisarawe di si maguti, uh ali mchikko kuna kijana moje alionekana kunye video clip ana akilikuba sana e niali wezo kujeleze na vitu kamahivio.
- 12:06SPEAKER_05: Lakini natuke konyye mazingira magum, akajitolea kwamba atamchkuwa, atakanae nyumbbanikwake, na atam saidia kumsomesham paka fike levo fulane, swan sema kamuasiri, ama ni mlezi wa kambo.
- 12:22SPEAKER_01: Ah, tu rezatu kasema inese ke ndana na ezi udumambili, nkwba kwa mana kombea uuleziwa uleziwa kambo, lakini mtu adiku itwa mlezi wa kambo kishelia, nazima piti uli mchakatu.
- 12:34SPEAKER_01: Paka napioa kibali na kamishno stadia mi.
- 12:36SPEAKER_01: Lakini utuki ankala kone jamyetu, kuna vitu vinki bina ndele, ata mimi nawe kone familia zetu, kuna watotu wambo pengine walifia na wazaze wandu zetu, wakamwaku lilewa katiko familia, io tuneta kinship care, kumba maleziya ndugo.
- 12:51SPEAKER_01: Hio ipole yapu kuwahayu ay ideawali gre ksi ki kisheria, lakini ipone inafanika na ipokatika, jami zetu mone, kwa kukuna katika jami kumekwakuna haiu mambo pia.
- 13:02SPEAKER_01: Kwambo wna kuta kwene jami, mtoto pengine hana wazazi kwasasa, amekwa ki tangatanga, akini familia moje inamokumchikuwa, kuishinaye.
- 13:09SPEAKER_01: Kwa kunavitu vingi bndea wone jami, vingine biendi kisheria kabisa kumampovo sisis tuna bis mami ya lakini pepo, na vina nendelea.
- 13:17SPEAKER_05: Tuna tuna bariki iyo amatuna yika tunaipinga vika.
- 13:22SPEAKER_01: A tunaybariki vizuri sana, nika mamtu ananiye njema na naiza kutua udumayo kwam totu tuna mlusu vizuri sana kwa sababu mtoto anapo ishika tika makawa wa tototo, ye utuneta ufenenji centra zamano kwa kita ivo.
- 13:33SPEAKER_01: Anapokaku ni makawa yama ya wa tototo tuna sema sio seem sarama na nina takewe amuda.
- 13:38SPEAKER_01: Sasena potoke familia inamokumchikuam totu nakumpa meja jiote msingi, io nizuri kabisa na tunaybariki kabisa.
- 13:44SPEAKER_05: Kwa kwahivo wakatifla niatek katoke kama mtona nianjema ta kamaha kufuata ule utara tibu, wamoje kwa mojela kini kama tuna wona maindeleo wala usewa jamiya.
- 13:55SPEAKER_01: Shidana ndu manasema kuna yuduma z nende rakenship kea, kweni community una kuta kuna ekuna kwen kuna jami zingiu nakuto nautala tibuwa wa kule wa totutu mbowa na kwasamarezi.
- 14:04SPEAKER_01: E konfono koko nyi masai sociality wana e wwana uta la tibuwao.
- 14:08SPEAKER_01: Kama mtutuwa na kwa samalezi, kunawatu wamboa na pewa kulewa wa toto.
- 14:11SPEAKER_01: Ko inarusu ka bisa.
- 14:12SPEAKER_01: Koko nabitu vijete mweviyache bien dele kuwa siliake.
- 14:15SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 14:16SPEAKER_05: Hapo hapo.
- 14:17SPEAKER_05: Miku nakitu de natamani kukidiwa, kati naza kuzunggumza hapa, uhawikawazi kumba waku kumbao wana asili wa tototo kwasababu ya ye wwa wanandoa, ama ile familia, hawana uwezo kupa tamtoto, lakinikuwa namtoto, nikatya sehemia malengoyao, lakini ku na mwingine, anatamani tu kwa sababia uwezu wake anatamani kusa idea, yuku mungine alelewa kunye kitucha nini tu nasema ma makazia watoto mmakawe wa toto, anatamani pia na e aje kurudisha kwa kufanyyehivyu.
- 14:49SPEAKER_05: Nisab nawe uku uko se muiyo mbayo watuna kuja kuasili wa tototo nabitu kwa mahivy.
- 14:55SPEAKER_05: Sababu kuki ukitazama yu kwa he sabuzako za haraka haraka, kuena kwaan nini.
- 15:00SPEAKER_05: Sabab wwengio na ukujani, wwale mbao, uh, hawana uwezo kukupata watoto, ama wale mbawa natamani tu, kongeza familia.
- 15:09SPEAKER_01: Okay, kwa sili kuko kwainambili.
- 15:11SPEAKER_01: Kuna kwa sili kwandugugu, duga wana rusuaku mwasiri mtoto mtutu wanduyake, lakini kuna kwa sili kwakawaida tunasema.
- 15:18SPEAKER_01: Kwamba mtuana uusianu kabisa namtoto anamu kumwa sili.
- 15:21SPEAKER_01: Lakini katikam chakato wa kwa sili, tukiangaliya, kutukana natakumi mwale watu wengi wa no kuja mtuote ambea na niye kwasili anarusio.
- 15:29SPEAKER_01: Ajaarisha namtoto, a idea risia nam toto, aidia risia na uwezo, yenye mwye matuasema niki pichayari.
- 15:35SPEAKER_01: Mwana komtuyota na rusio.
- 15:37SPEAKER_01: Kosa sawali owengiwa na kuja mboa na changoto zawzazi.
- 15:40SPEAKER_01: Lakini wukowa kwa ucha wapwa no kujiamboa na niya, yakwa sili ku mana komba yakusa idea.
- 15:46SPEAKER_01: Wapo, wunakuta na wato wata wane, lakini uzwake ni mkubu, lakini antaka kongesa mto mwgine anarusu apia, kwaha kuna limitation nikabisa.
- 15:54SPEAKER_01: Ila tukiangariya tuku ataku mize tutunu wana kumba wengiwao.
- 15:57SPEAKER_01: Waki ukiona sababu ni kwa sababu.
- 16:00SPEAKER_01: Ajefani kioko patam toto.
- 16:02SPEAKER_05: Sa, nemailezo podcast ifia na sulema ni kohapa ni meketina biludovika samare e huni afisa usay wajami mwanda mizi, uhuna zunggumziya jua ba kwa sili wa totu wama kwa sili mtoto wengiwa ki fahamo za idi uhama adoption.
- 16:20SPEAKER_05: U kisia kumba fla ni ka adopt mtoto na vitu kama hivyu, tuna fahamo hileo.
- 16:24SPEAKER_05: Sasa hivi natamantu gusiye sasa vigezo via mtuambae anatakiwa ku kwasili mtoto sasa.
- 16:32SPEAKER_05: U kwena vigezo vipia ma uzingatevi to gene ili wena hizo sifa za kwa sili mtoto.
- 16:38SPEAKER_01: Okay, ja konza mtute mweta bianjema kwediami anarusua kwasili.
- 16:43SPEAKER_01: Awe ana umri kwa zemia kashina tano pakastina tano.
- 16:46SPEAKER_01: Uh naiza kawa mtubi nafsi kumana wwanamke anarusua kwasili epekiake, bilandoa lakini uhke na mume wana rusuakwa sili, uhini pia laya mba si uatanzania wanarusuak wasiri, lakini kwakigeso kwamba mojawa wa meshi atlisti miakamita tum fulizo, Tanzania, lakini pia wa Tanzania mbosiwa wakazi, naya na rusuaku kwa sili.
- 17:14SPEAKER_05: Kwenye hapu msema kwambaye si raya wa Tanzania ani ikitokea wa tua wili.
- 17:21SPEAKER_05: Nama soli mawiliap.
- 17:22SPEAKER_05: Ikitokeya watua wili, ama mtu mumen amtu mke wwaka chaguwa kwasili mtoto mba si u raya u Tanzania.
- 17:31SPEAKER_05: Manake mnapoto wa ki bali cha wa ku kumwa sili uli mtoto na mtoto tuna badili shia uraya manake.
- 17:39SPEAKER_01: Eh, anaiza kenda kubadisha ulaya.
- 17:42SPEAKER_01: Inamana tuna uraya sisi, atunu laya pacha.
- 17:45SPEAKER_01: Lakini kisheria, mpaka mtoto na tuka nji, inamana tuna mwa akasiliwa e kuku njianchi na mana kumba tumita futa njia zotezi rizopondani.
- 17:55SPEAKER_01: Zime kosekana.
- 17:57SPEAKER_01: Sasando tuneza to kampatia uyo mzaziwa ambeni sielsi ora ya wa tanzania.
- 18:03SPEAKER_01: Aha, lakini kwa kufanya u twasima tunafanya mchakatumref sana na inachikuwa muda sana, pakatu jiri dishe tupateta a rifa kutoka nji, yaki mba ya siri, kwaambi watuambie kwa wa natambo wa siri wetu.
- 18:17SPEAKER_01: Mone, kuo wakisha tujibu sisi kwamba watambo wa sili wa Tanzania, na kwa ufatiliya jiku pitiya barozi, basi tu na mkabizi yule mtoto.
- 18:26SPEAKER_05: Apo wapia.
- 18:28SPEAKER_05: Uh ninani kumbuka akisha kuwa tanzania manaki na kwanira hisi, watu wa na umzunguka kuywa mendeleu l mtoto na ni.
- 18:37SPEAKER_05: Bado usayu wa jami mnakwa na yikumula kufatilia maindeleu l mtoto bada.
- 18:42SPEAKER_01: Yes, tuna kwa nele jikumu na tume kwa tuna wasiriana na barozi kupitia wizara mambiange na u shelikiano afrika masharik, ili kupata ta alifaza mendero wa toto.
- 18:52SPEAKER_01: Kwa tu nafata wase kwa sa saivi bado tunafane tunafanya mwa kufu ituntuwafani twafanya fatilia ji kupitia baroze kupitia wizara mambianji.
- 19:01SPEAKER_05: Mwakate tuna zunggumza pia hapa.
- 19:03SPEAKER_05: Kma katia sifa zamtu nayuza kuasili tulisema ama uli weka wazi kwambani watu mbao awako kunyendoa wanandoa.
- 19:12SPEAKER_05: Sifa nyingino kasema awe mwamamke atakama haiku kunyendowa.
- 19:16SPEAKER_05: Kwanini mwamamke kawekwa, mwanaume kwanini awizi kuwa sili e kwepeke.
- 19:20SPEAKER_01: Tuna mini kwamba mwamke dumlezi.
- 19:22SPEAKER_01: Eh, mone, tuna mini mwamamke ni mlezi.
- 19:24SPEAKER_01: Nyumba i kiwa na mama.
- 19:26SPEAKER_01: Hm, aneza kamle ulimtoto, pengine kamchikuwa kiwa five, badu mdogo kabisa naza kamlea.
- 19:32SPEAKER_01: Eye pekia ken pakakafikia.
- 19:33SPEAKER_01: Topauti na baba.
- 19:35SPEAKER_05: Baba naza kutafuta pia, mlezi pale nyumbane.
- 19:37SPEAKER_05: Sikuza wusonia kawa, amakatafuta mtuakazi.
- 19:41SPEAKER_01: Kwa sasa tuna mwamini mwanamke kwaza.
- 19:45SPEAKER_05: Hili nta si ji nili wekaj ntajita hidi niliweke vizuri.
- 19:49SPEAKER_05: Uh, kwa kwa tanzania sisi, ikwa wazi kabisa, mapeziya jinsiya mwja ndoa yanam nakama yuha itambuliki kabisa.
- 19:58SPEAKER_05: Umueka wazi kwamba raya wa inje wwana wwezu wa kumwa sili mtoto mbayani wwaki tanzania.
- 20:04SPEAKER_05: Kwa shiriaza ukule wawa naza kumtambua mtumume namtu mume kama wanandoa.
- 20:10SPEAKER_05: Ama mtu mumke namtu mke kama wanandoa.
- 20:13SPEAKER_05: Ii kovipituna wwezo uh wakutowa ki bali kony mazingira kamaha.
- 20:18SPEAKER_01: Mkwa mtu mume nam tumume.
- 20:20SPEAKER_01: Eh, apa na kwetu wairusi.
- 20:22SPEAKER_05: Mtu mumke nam tumke?
- 20:23SPEAKER_01: Airusi.
- 20:24SPEAKER_05: Raya wange.
- 20:25SPEAKER_01: Airusi.
- 20:26SPEAKER_01: Nayu kabisa ni shere kwausi kabisi nye taki wa mke na mume imgea kabisa.
- 20:32SPEAKER_01: Ni mke na mume.
- 20:33SPEAKER_01: Yes?
- 20:34SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
- 20:35SPEAKER_05: Yo, yo mimi ni me nime ichko.
- 20:37SPEAKER_05: Sasa, ukisha kwana hivi vigezu.
- 20:40SPEAKER_05: Ivi uhye konye hivi vigezo kablas deenda kosab ni takani kuliza komba ukisha kwa na hivi vigezo uh unanzia wwapi nchakatu ani unenda wapi.
- 20:50SPEAKER_05: Lakini apuapu kanijiye kitu.
- 20:52SPEAKER_05: Nloahikuskia komba la zima uwe uhipatu kunyweza kidogo na ambatanisha na ile onitanini sa uhama statement ya kipato chako.
- 21:04SPEAKER_01: Uh tuna tamani kujuwa kipatochako, lakini seo komba tu naitaji tajiri.
- 21:08SPEAKER_01: Tunaitajitu mtuambaneza kakim maitaji mtoto.
- 21:12SPEAKER_01: Kwayo mtotea asi a seoge kuja seo komba tu nagupa taya tunaitaji tajiriya pana.
- 21:17SPEAKER_01: Ili mladitu wana uwezu wa kukizi maitaji nafustara yamia tata kyotu kutu antikiata rifa na kuttibitishia kwamba pamoja ku nauchungguzwaku kiamia mebuntuwa kumba u yumtu anuwezu aku, timiza maitajje ulimtoto.
- 21:29SPEAKER_05: Uwezo tuna upima kwyanini.
- 21:31SPEAKER_01: Mm whateva ka lazima wwwa ukunakitu wbachokina kwingizia.
- 21:36SPEAKER_01: Ehhe, so lazima wemwa jiwa pengina laba wanafanya biashala, akintu na wakika kwamba kunakitu na ngiza kwa jilia kukim maitajye familia.
- 21:44SPEAKER_05: Twende sasakunyeswala msingi mesha kwa na vigiezu tayari, uhimi nina akiliti mamo, miyakeshirinatano na zaidi, uhama niwana mke basi ni wwanamke, tabian jema ipo, kama ni wwanaume basi yukona mkeo taiari.
- 21:59SPEAKER_05: Nanzi.
- 22:17SPEAKER_05: Upita kumwasi.
- 22:18SPEAKER_01: Uta kumwasi, yes.
- 22:19SPEAKER_05: Apotunacho ki kwepa kama siku ki linda nekituge.
- 22:23SPEAKER_01: Tunamini ukiwa na miyakeshina modja, any mepishana miyakaashina modja, kweli uneza ukawa kweli mzazi kwali pengini lava nenzekano kazam toto nakumlea, kombi uuo, yes.
- 22:34SPEAKER_01: Lakini kwa kusema miakeshina tanawa na chkomtu miakumi nkama kachwam doguaki.
- 22:38SPEAKER_01: Ye.
- 22:38SPEAKER_05: Kwa putuna kotupatiale malezia kumba mzaz.
- 22:43SPEAKER_01: Kwauto atuwa te gemiya kwa tu apok patia mtoto eukakti kama mzaz.
- 22:46SPEAKER_01: Sasa unapewa mtoto ambeni mdoguako inakwasio.
- 22:50SPEAKER_01: Kola zimu pitam tumi akeshina modia.
- 22:52SPEAKER_05: Nakajuo pia tuna likimbiya l mtukuba delisha.
- 22:54SPEAKER_01: Nakingina kamana mia kamsini anatakyoko kuchwa mtoto kwanzia miakumi.
- 23:01SPEAKER_01: Mone.
- 23:02SPEAKER_01: Anta kyokchwam tuto kwanzia miakakumi.
- 23:04SPEAKER_01: Kwwanizum ttumchanga.
- 23:05SPEAKER_01: Tuna tuna minia kichikua kwanzia mtu miya kakumi, atakuana uteva wakati, yenu kichukwa ule mtutu wambeni mdogo sana umechafikishemya kamsini, labu muchikwom ttuo miyaka labba miaka mini mwakamodja.
- 23:20SPEAKER_01: Adi ki fika miya kastini na mana we mtutu na miakakumi, pengina labakama ntumishu menda kustafu ngu wuzaku zina isha kwza kumku mudumieye ule mtoto.
- 23:28SPEAKER_01: Menieleo.
- 23:29SPEAKER_01: Kwasa sa kichikuwa atilisti miyakakumi, tunkiye sabia nabu endelak wishinaya pwinakwa, atilisti na eza kumudumiye.
- 23:36SPEAKER_05: Apkuna wwale lakini, komfano ni ni ilikwani imetokeni scenario na dani ni stori il kwa kububu sana uli mwangguni.
- 23:45SPEAKER_05: Ni katia matajiri ba of koziana ana ukwa si wakutosha, hasa hakutaka, hakwana mke walandubu yoyote na hakutaka ndubu siwa doguzaki wa shhiriki kwye kuriti malizake, li kwana umri umeenda ki dogu.
- 24:01SPEAKER_05: A kataka kwa sili mtoto ika shindikana baake utajiriwake kampa pakawake na kumbuka.
- 24:09SPEAKER_05: Hasa konye mazingira kamaha.
- 24:11SPEAKER_05: Uko mgile na sili tumtoto ana umri taiari na zaili me kasina tano, u kwa si upo.
- 24:17SPEAKER_05: Lakini lengola kwa sili mtotu niataka tu ule utajiri mba yko na mazemali rizonazo, zimirikyo na mtu mwinggine mbay sise hemia u totuake.
- 24:27SPEAKER_05: Konyye pyey watu na yangalia.
- 24:29SPEAKER_01: Ah, sisi tuna mini tunau mpatia mtoto wasili.
- 24:32SPEAKER_01: Sana tunacho kiangalia nichotutunacho kifanya kwa mtoto la zima twangalima salayake, best interestia mtoto.
- 24:38SPEAKER_01: Sasa tuna po yaribu, kutaka kumpatiya mzazi pengine kamo nafusema labla na anamari nyingi.
- 24:46SPEAKER_01: A kini kwa kwangalia wa ki pindicio pengine labla tana miyakasabini.
- 24:51SPEAKER_01: A na natunacho wangaliya mtoto, apate mlezi, apate familia, kwanza kabla ya mari.
- 24:58SPEAKER_01: Tunamini familia nikitu chamsingi za idi.
- 25:00SPEAKER_01: Kwa bi nadami yyote kachaku kuwa kiakili, wuteva kidia mi mone, ko tunaangalia kwanza sasasa fi so stori nta kiwa fanyo chungguziya jwe, apa best interest yamtoto nipi.
- 25:11SPEAKER_01: Sawa, pingine ezi mali wenezu kachi wafu kabaki peki ako.
- 25:15SPEAKER_01: Suna nielewa.
- 25:16SPEAKER_01: Eyu ilemausianu e dia mi familia inakwa diapo.
- 25:20SPEAKER_01: Ko yenicho chotekinacho fanyika kwam toto.
- 25:23SPEAKER_01: Afso stojja mia twa y atu a tuwakikishia kwa ini for the best interest yamtoto.
- 25:28SPEAKER_01: Okay, neme mele ka.
- 25:30SPEAKER_05: Apo apo minimim kupatavizu.
- 25:32SPEAKER_05: Twende sasaku nyye uh wapi naanzia wu mchakato oke naivo viote natakio kwa na nini kamaneviambatanisho na wapi mchakato na wanzia wapina malizie.
- 25:42SPEAKER_01: Mm tiote mwye niya na najuwa kwamba anai yuko na niye kuchikuam toto, wateva katika kwa siri, awaleziakambo, anatakua kwenda officisa almashaudi.
- 25:55SPEAKER_01: Katike niolaki.
- 25:56SPEAKER_01: Offices amkulugensi to semi.
- 25:58SPEAKER_01: And awkifika offices amkulugenzi, ukifika ulizie kitengo chostawa jami.
- 26:04SPEAKER_01: As ukifika kumma sostua jami wata kupa nchakatumzima.
- 26:07SPEAKER_01: Of cozef so stori utakapu mweleze yo nia, inamana utaenda nabarua, ye ku omba, kumba unataka yo duma, inamana so stoga jami, daniya mezi milia andatakiwa kufanyo fatilia sasa, atata kya kufika kunyeo lawiumtu anolo ishi, it is awe the kui tibitishi, a kwambawiumtu kwia noiza kaki the mytaji mtoto, la kini kunafo tatakuwa kujaza form numba moja, kutuka katakakanunya marizia kambo, lakini atatayu kuja na tib tishucha kiongozua ki waewa analo issu iswakiji, uhini pia atakyokuleta wa the miniwa tatatu.
- 26:47SPEAKER_01: Katya wataminiya how, a wepo kiongozuwa ine u sika, uhini awepojilani sewa watatu lakinuzaka wka ukaleta with minata z idea watatu.
- 26:59SPEAKER_01: Uh, io nia mwim san.
- 27:01SPEAKER_01: Kwa so studiamia kisha pata baluza izuzawa twa tatu in a manakatikama tembizaka nyumbania lazima ta ki kisha kumbana fanya diliano nawa the mini.
- 27:10SPEAKER_01: Ko yea tatua bata ni shia tarifayake, yemunya lichokiona, nama pendehezoyaki.
- 27:16SPEAKER_01: Pamujiya na isi io form niyosema, akini form naba pimbiriam bauni uchungguzi, a lakini pia tatakiwa kuletesu baluza wa mini watatu, pia poliswa tata kyoko tutibi dishia, makazia mumbbaji amnamtu mwambea aliwe kushitakiwa pengine ku makose ya ukatili didia watotu.
- 27:33SPEAKER_01: Au makosa mingineoteari.
- 27:35SPEAKER_01: Lakini pia dakelwa afia akiliri.
- 27:38SPEAKER_01: Atutibi tishia kwamba katika makazia uamnamtu mbe na changoto ya afia akiliri.
- 27:43SPEAKER_05: Katika makazi kuzunguka makazia.
- 27:45SPEAKER_05: Makazia mumbba, yaya kienda ku.
- 27:47SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 27:48SPEAKER_01: Kwa jile u salamo mtoto.
- 27:50SPEAKER_05: Kwamba mtoto aneza kuzuru anamtu munggini.
- 27:53SPEAKER_01: Yani mum memchiku awewe mimi namchkua mtoto lakini ndania makazi ku namtuwa na changoto anneza kumzurum totu.
- 28:00unknown: Yes.
- 28:00SPEAKER_01: Kwevo voto tnaviangalia.
- 28:02SPEAKER_01: Kovi ki shakuja kama m kuyomtu pia namtoto mbea namieka kumi nan nena kwendele.
- 28:06SPEAKER_01: Ana anatakua tweliza.
- 28:08SPEAKER_01: Apotuna angalia pia ma oni mtoto.
- 28:11SPEAKER_01: Sa baba na mamwa mekubari giem totu anan neana lithia u kureetiwa mdoguaki.
- 28:16SPEAKER_01: Maken neza nikaleta mtoto, na nikam badilisha ubin na nini mshua siku mimina mimi nam kewa mimina mewankuwa ya tu potena dunyani.
- 28:25SPEAKER_01: Yule neza stoshiri kiano kwuye kimpia.
- 28:27SPEAKER_01: Koni mwimsa na neetu paterida yake.
- 28:29SPEAKER_01: Kama yukokatika umli oktua.
- 28:31SPEAKER_05: Apa hapa mesema miyaka kumina nne kwende nakwedeleya.
- 28:37SPEAKER_05: Kizokea wum tota mieka kuminane na nae asiliwani zaidia miyaka kuminane amam kubo kohu mtoto mba yukoko nya familia.
- 28:46SPEAKER_05: Bado swendela na mchakato.
- 28:48SPEAKER_01: Eh, bado riza yakuna itany.
- 28:50SPEAKER_01: Kwa sosa jamila zima atpanya ujiya no na naekwa kuzingatiya umrialio na.
- 28:55SPEAKER_01: Aha, na kujuwa kamane, amilidia, uumchakato kwenderia.
- 28:59SPEAKER_05: Uki shapu mtoto sasa.
- 29:01SPEAKER_05: Ame kuani sehemia familia yako.
- 29:05SPEAKER_05: Apsemini maliako kosaba bado tabaki kuwa malia yemhuri.
- 29:10SPEAKER_05: Ame shakua sehemia familia ako.
- 29:12SPEAKER_05: Kurakitugen kingina bachuntakyoko kuki fine.
- 29:15SPEAKER_01: Wanza paru napu a sili mtotu wambesi indugu, nila zimu pite mchakato a maliziya kambo kwa mezi sita.
- 29:22SPEAKER_01: Mm.
- 29:23SPEAKER_01: Kwa katio mezis sita so stwa yemia takwana fanyo fatilia yikatika makazi.
- 29:27SPEAKER_01: Kwangalia mainderoya mtoto.
- 29:31SPEAKER_01: Akiri disha sasasa tatuanti kieta na talifa pamujiana mainderoya mtoto.
- 29:36SPEAKER_01: Naku, pende keza kwambawi mutu sasasa, aneza kwasili.
- 29:41SPEAKER_01: Kwa sisi ka sisi tutandabi bali na kamishina tasai.
- 29:45SPEAKER_01: Na tasai ngwanda makamani.
- 29:47SPEAKER_01: Kwa sabu kamishneya natuki bali chakwa sili, makamani.
- 29:50SPEAKER_01: Kwa twa y na kamerikia, makamani.
- 29:53SPEAKER_01: Na bade rita.
- 29:55SPEAKER_05: Leo tulukotu na azungumziya juia elimu ya uwasili uamtoto makwa sili mtoto wengiwa kifahamu kama adoption.
- 30:04SPEAKER_05: Tumeguusia bitu vingi kwelikweli.
- 30:07SPEAKER_05: Tangu kigezu chamtoto mba.
- 30:09SPEAKER_05: Wap nini manya kwa sili, lakinipia tu megusia juya ulezi wa kambo, wapiu ta wapataha wa toto wa kwa sili, amaikio nataka kwasili mtoto.
- 30:20SPEAKER_05: Lakinipia mchakato mzima.
- 30:22SPEAKER_05: Ama kunakitu kingile tu mekisaha wambakuo nichamuhimu kwili kweli.
- 30:26SPEAKER_05: Untakio kwa mbatanisha.
- 30:28SPEAKER_05: Amando kile untakyo kwambatanisha ki pato chako pia.
- 30:31SPEAKER_01: Nakaki pato, asma kinyyewe yes.
- 30:34SPEAKER_01: Kwakunakitu na ngisa kumwese.
- 30:37SPEAKER_05: Tulikwana bi ludovika samare eni, afisa usta ywa jami mwanda mizi, tumezunggumza mengi kulikeli.
- 30:44SPEAKER_05: Kitugene mbachuli tamani sana tu kigusie juya uwasili w mtotu kosab lengu li kwani watu wa faham, kitugene nbachu na dani tu m atuye kigusia kabisa na u natamani watanzaniye wkiski.
- 30:56SPEAKER_01: Nadani menge tu mezunggumza lakini chya kukazia zaidi labla ineola wasiu wandugu.
- 31:01SPEAKER_01: Tumekwa tuki pata uasi wengi wanokudiak wasiri, upandu wandrugu labla anatamani kum katia mtoto bi myafia anatamani kum wengizakatika benefits officiake, lakini wanashindo ku kufwasi, kwangarian bele.
- 31:18SPEAKER_01: Kwamba unapu mwa sili ulimtoto teli na manana nabidu kamilish and paka wati certificate tile, yeah adoption.
- 31:24SPEAKER_01: Sasa anapo kamilisha ulem chakatu na shki shelia o nasema kwamba.
- 31:28SPEAKER_01: Sa wpengin wanashwomtuamza yuwa nduguyaku kwakua hakuwa mwajiliwa, awpengini ni mwajilia kine ofisiake empi benefis si zil andbazunas patawe.
- 31:37SPEAKER_01: Lakini nangarian bele.
- 31:38SPEAKER_01: Kwamba ikitokea, kosabu shelia nasema kwaamba haki zamzazura awaliznai iz naz na kwa z na kwaki komu parepari.
- 31:45SPEAKER_01: Umefikili mbele, kwamba pali napo mwa sili uimtoto.
- 31:50SPEAKER_01: Ye nikoteari mpaka na marizang.
- 31:52SPEAKER_01: Saivi nangarya bi myafe nicheev.
- 31:55SPEAKER_01: Yee nikoteali kwamba u yumtoto sasa aye shem paka marizangu rithy wangu uritoto tuanguna na nawatoto angu.
- 32:04SPEAKER_01: Make wengi wanangaria sasaivi wangare na atapata bina bi myafia, atapata benefisa offis.
- 32:10SPEAKER_01: Ye bada yapu badai.
- 32:12SPEAKER_01: Komtoyote napotaka kuye kamandugu kwa sili.
- 32:16SPEAKER_01: Aya weke yombeli.
- 32:17SPEAKER_01: Kwamba ki ajuwe kwamba, napompa mtoto, haki akwa siliwa.
- 32:21SPEAKER_01: Inamana kinacho fwata kwambana ile mipankoyaki uamini zile hakizake zot, zam totuwaki ye, znatakwa ziye miye kwaki.
- 32:30SPEAKER_01: Na akizake zoto u mtoto zime kwa makule.
- 32:32SPEAKER_01: Inamana endu wa natakiwa mpatie, ki lakitu kama muttuwaki okuza.
- 32:36SPEAKER_05: Meme kuškurusana nayotumekusie, kilambacho nkwa natamani tu ki gusieye kwyehili.
- 32:42SPEAKER_05: Angalao, uhanaelezo podcast mtakum me pata, elimwia kwa sili mtoto uh na A B Cs.
- 32:51SPEAKER_05: Wapu naza kupata hudumahiya mamaelezo zaidi, basuneza ku onana nafishaustaywa jami katikalma shouya.
- 32:59SPEAKER_05: Kwye halmasha urihusika.
- 33:01SPEAKER_05: Io ni levo ya chini kabisa ya maafishaustayo jamiu navo patikana.
- 33:04SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 33:05SPEAKER_01: Wa wapu anopatika na katikakata, katiba badiya mikoi kemo dalislam do doma pia bazi akata.
- 33:11SPEAKER_01: Fakini katikalmashauri nyingi badu waku katika, officiam kulu.
- 33:14SPEAKER_05: Kwye officiam kubienzo halmasha uri husika.
- 33:17SPEAKER_05: Mem ni kushkurusana, kwa ku kuwa nasisya.
- 33:19SPEAKER_05: Sante sana kwa kutufatilia jinalanguri piana sleyman pako katimangini to taketi nanani hapabasendelea kufotilia myelezo podcast.
- 33:27SPEAKER_05: Kwa heri kosasa.