Latest / She's On The Money / Moving on out (of home for the first time)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: She's on the Money.
- 0:02Speaker 2: She's on the Money.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast
- 0:32Speaker 1: for millennials who want financial freedom. Moving out of home
- 0:35Speaker 1: is an incredibly exciting step. There's the independence, the freedom,
- 0:39Speaker 1: the thrill of living with mates for the first time.
- 0:42Speaker 1: But as I quickly learned when I moved out for
- 0:45Speaker 1: the first time, along with all of that excitement comes
- 0:47Speaker 1: a whole lot of expense.
- 0:49Speaker 3: It's real, Yeah, it really is.
- 0:52Speaker 1: So today we'll be talking you through the A to
- 0:54Speaker 1: z of how to prepare financially before you take the
- 0:57Speaker 1: leap and move out. Plus, we'll be listing our top
- 1:00Speaker 1: tips and some tips from the community for frugal living
- 1:03Speaker 1: when you're set up and in your new home. My
- 1:06Speaker 1: name is Georgia King, and joining me as always is
- 1:10Speaker 1: financial advisor Vicki.
- 1:11Speaker 3: D hill v. They're still using that name.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Have we noticed that it's taken off a little bit?
- 1:18Speaker 1: Like it's really it took off ages ago and now
- 1:20Speaker 1: it's really up in the dem sky.
- 1:22Speaker 3: I feel like our community kind of act like friends
- 1:25Speaker 3: but also siblings to me, Like you know how they
- 1:28Speaker 3: use like annoying nicknames that they know you don't like,
- 1:31Speaker 3: but they're like but she'll put up with it because
- 1:33Speaker 3: like she tells stuff like yeah, I get it, like
- 1:36Speaker 3: it's endearing, but it's just it's just not my national.
- 1:38Speaker 1: She loves it. Guys, keep on, keep on keeping on.
- 1:41Speaker 1: So V there is a lot to consider when it
- 1:44Speaker 1: comes to moving out of home.
- 1:45Speaker 3: There is what do we need.
- 1:46Speaker 1: To factor in from a financial perspective before we move out?
- 1:50Speaker 3: Well, if we're in the position where we are thinking
- 1:52Speaker 3: about moving out of home, some of us were forced
- 1:54Speaker 3: into it. So I just want to like acknowledge that
- 1:56Speaker 3: this podcast, I guess this specific topic has come from
- 2:00Speaker 3: an overwhelming amount of people in our community being like
- 2:03Speaker 3: we need help, what is going on? What is this?
- 2:05Speaker 3: But I think we also need to acknowledge that to
- 2:07Speaker 3: make the conscious decision to plan to move out of
- 2:10Speaker 3: home and go okay, well can I afford it or
- 2:13Speaker 3: not is not afforded to absolutely everybody, And some people
- 2:16Speaker 3: were forced out of home. Some people were kicked out
- 2:19Speaker 3: of home, some people didn't have a home. So I
- 2:21Speaker 3: just want to acknowledge that we're not so naive that
- 2:24Speaker 3: we don't know that this is not the quote usual process.
- 2:28Speaker 3: But this pod is literally to talk about the costs
- 2:32Speaker 3: of moving out of home for the very first time,
- 2:34Speaker 3: whether that is you being a unie student or you've
- 2:37Speaker 3: got your first job and you're finally doing it like
- 2:39Speaker 3: this pod is I guess a little bit more specific.
- 2:42Speaker 3: I mean, it's still going to be useful information for anybody,
- 2:44Speaker 3: but I didn't want to just dive straight in and say, oh, well,
- 2:47Speaker 3: this is the process and this is how it works,
- 2:49Speaker 3: like we're not silly a guy.
- 2:51Speaker 1: No, that's really good to make clear at the top.
- 2:53Speaker 3: But first things first, back to your question, gking, what
- 2:56Speaker 3: do we need to consider first, which I remember being
- 3:00Speaker 3: really stumped by because it was like me too, I
- 3:02Speaker 3: didn't see it coming, like just kind of like came
- 3:04Speaker 3: out of nowhere and hit me in the face. The bond,
- 3:08Speaker 3: So the bond is usually a month's worth of rent
- 3:11Speaker 3: that you have to pay in advance that gets held
- 3:14Speaker 3: as kind of like a security over the property in
- 3:16Speaker 3: case you like damage it and then run away. They
- 3:18Speaker 3: can use the bond to fix the property. So that
- 3:22Speaker 3: to me ended up being far more expensive than I
- 3:24Speaker 3: thought it was going to be. So it's usually four weeks,
- 3:27Speaker 3: can be six weeks, can be more. It's actually up
- 3:29Speaker 3: to the landlord how much bond they want to take
- 3:32Speaker 3: for the specific property, Like if you were going to
- 3:34Speaker 3: rent a mega mansion, maybe the bond would be a
- 3:36Speaker 3: bit more because there's a lot of costs, but usually
- 3:38Speaker 3: between four and six weeks worth of rent and you
- 3:42Speaker 3: have to pay that upfront in addition to paying a
- 3:44Speaker 3: month's rent up front.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Yes, that's a lot from the outset, isn't it.
- 3:48Speaker 3: It's speno And you know, it's really overwhelmed me because
- 3:51Speaker 3: sometimes when you're just thinking about moving out of home,
- 3:53Speaker 3: you're like, oh, well, I can afford two hundred dollars
- 3:55Speaker 3: a week if that's what your rent is like. We
- 3:56Speaker 3: often don't consider that we need to save for a
- 3:59Speaker 3: bond and make sure that we have the first month
- 4:01Speaker 3: of rent in advance to pay. It can just feel like,
- 4:04Speaker 3: oh my gosh, this got really expensive really quickly. Then
- 4:08Speaker 3: there's bills. Sometimes you get lucky and some of them
- 4:10Speaker 3: are included in rent. Definitely have a look at that.
- 4:13Speaker 3: My last rental, we didn't have to pay a water
- 4:16Speaker 3: bill really because it was like in a townhouse complex
- 4:19Speaker 3: and the water bill was paid by body corporate money wins.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Do you have to pay a body corporate piece?
- 4:24Speaker 3: No? Because I was renting, and that was that was
- 4:27Speaker 3: a cost that the landlord had to thank you money win.
- 4:30Speaker 3: But you'll have things like electricity and gas and Wi
- 4:33Speaker 3: Fi and water and potentially insurances that you want to
- 4:37Speaker 3: set up, but we'll talk about them in a hot minute. Then,
- 4:39Speaker 3: if you don't have family or mates that have big
- 4:42Speaker 3: station wagons, you can chuck all this stuff in the
- 4:44Speaker 3: back of or like me when I first moved out
- 4:46Speaker 3: of home, a two door, tiny coupe car that you like,
- 4:50Speaker 3: put the seats in the back down and stuff full
- 4:52Speaker 3: and do one hundred trips back and forth. I'm not
- 4:55Speaker 3: paying a removal list, but you might need to pay
- 4:57Speaker 3: a removal list. And then a really niche one is
- 5:00Speaker 3: parking permits. So if you're moving into a CBD location
- 5:04Speaker 3: that has a permit on the property that maybe doesn't
- 5:07Speaker 3: already exist, you'll have to pay to apply for the permit.
- 5:10Speaker 3: If you want that parking space, again, ask your real
- 5:13Speaker 3: estate agent. They'll no more than me. But I remember
- 5:15Speaker 3: being super surprised when I moved out of home to
- 5:18Speaker 3: the city and I was like, what do you mean,
- 5:20Speaker 3: what's a parking permit? Like how does that work? And
- 5:23Speaker 3: just being genuinely shook that you had to pay for
- 5:26Speaker 3: that as rude.
- 5:27Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I think from memory it's about one
- 5:29Speaker 1: hundred dollars a year for a parking permit.
- 5:31Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's not heaps, but like when you're moving
- 5:33Speaker 3: down another one hundred dollars on top of everything else
- 5:36Speaker 3: you're already paying, and how much you've already spent it
- 5:38Speaker 3: came out it's a lot, Georgia.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Okay. So they're the main things we need to factor
- 5:44Speaker 1: in before we've moved out. What about when we're in,
- 5:47Speaker 1: we live in, we're doing it, what should we expect
- 5:49Speaker 1: to pay then?
- 5:50Speaker 3: So obviously rent, like we need to consistently pay that.
- 5:54Speaker 3: That was the agreement. You'll have bills obviously again mention
- 5:58Speaker 3: them already, but there'll be things that are ongoing and
- 6:01Speaker 3: things that fluctuate. Important to understand as well, like sometimes
- 6:05Speaker 3: you have to overbudget because you don't know what the
- 6:09Speaker 3: electricity bill is going to be, especially in that first
- 6:11Speaker 3: year of moving out. You're kind of like, well, I've
- 6:13Speaker 3: never lived in a house with two other people, and
- 6:15Speaker 3: I don't know what that's going to look like. It
- 6:18Speaker 3: makes sense, so sometimes you have to overbudget to make
- 6:21Speaker 3: sure that you can afford the bills because electricity is
- 6:24Speaker 3: based on consumption, whereas like your phone bill, you might
- 6:27Speaker 3: be fifty bucks a month and you just know that
- 6:29Speaker 3: for sure. So it's about understanding your bills and then
- 6:32Speaker 3: you know if you are a bit confused. I've said
- 6:34Speaker 3: this about insurances, I've said this about super call the
- 6:38Speaker 3: call center. Call up Red Energy and be like, hey,
- 6:40Speaker 3: Red Energy, I leave in Richmond and I have two housemates.
- 6:44Speaker 3: Can you give me an idea of what my electricity
- 6:46Speaker 3: bill is going to be. It will help you and
- 6:49Speaker 3: they will know because they'll have all the averages and
- 6:51Speaker 3: all the research and they will know or ask your
- 6:53Speaker 3: friends that live in a similar area. You also have groceries,
- 6:57Speaker 3: so food, obviously you got to eat it. I was
- 7:00Speaker 3: really good at Ramen at UNI. Like every stereotypical university
- 7:05Speaker 3: student raman frozen vegetables. You have got yourself a krem
- 7:08Speaker 3: Del fremmeal. But you'll also have ongoing costs which can
- 7:13Speaker 3: be causes the tension in relationships with your housemates, which
- 7:18Speaker 3: I think we covered recently. Yeah, because I was talking
- 7:22Speaker 3: about my quote fake housemate Chloe. That's correct, her name's
- 7:26Speaker 3: not Chloe, but interesting. But you'll have household expenses like
- 7:31Speaker 3: toilet paper and cleaning items, and maybe you have instant
- 7:34Speaker 3: coffee that you all share. And if you're living with housemates,
- 7:37Speaker 3: it's going to be up to you on how you
- 7:38Speaker 3: do groceries, Like you might just do a big shop
- 7:41Speaker 3: together and share those things, or you might have your
- 7:44Speaker 3: separate shelves in the fridge and you eat your flour
- 7:46Speaker 3: and I ate mine and we don't cross over, but
- 7:49Speaker 3: maybe we share the salt and pepper. Like this is
- 7:51Speaker 3: where communication is really important to understand the expectations of
- 7:54Speaker 3: your future housemates. And it's something that I didn't have
- 7:58Speaker 3: that conversation when I moved out for the first time.
- 8:01Speaker 3: I just didn't know I needed to. Like, I moved
- 8:04Speaker 3: out and it was all sunshine and roses, and I
- 8:05Speaker 3: was so excited because we had this apartment. I was
- 8:08Speaker 3: eighteen and that was just like so cool and I
- 8:10Speaker 3: was like, all my friends can come up on the weekend.
- 8:13Speaker 3: That was all I cared about. But then having a
- 8:15Speaker 3: discussion around grocery bills, we ended up doing it as
- 8:19Speaker 3: a house I don't eat meat, yeah, so that made
- 8:23Speaker 3: it really expensive and I was paying for something that
- 8:26Speaker 3: I wasn't consuming or using. And then other people liked
- 8:29Speaker 3: like chips and snacks and stuff, but mine were different.
- 8:32Speaker 3: And I think it's just important to set those expectations
- 8:35Speaker 3: and know what that really means. So in theory, great,
- 8:38Speaker 3: I'd love to share the grocery bill, do you though?
- 8:41Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 8:42Speaker 3: So I think it's really important. And we mentioned last
- 8:44Speaker 3: time as well the apps split wise flagged before really
- 8:48Speaker 3: great up not sponsored. Wish we were, we could do
- 8:51Speaker 3: such great promos for that business. But split wise is
- 8:54Speaker 3: a really good app to keep track of your spending
- 8:56Speaker 3: and make sure that you're not having to text Gking
- 8:59Speaker 3: fifty times and like, how's just wondering? Yeah, can you
- 9:02Speaker 3: please transfer me X for the grocery bill or for
- 9:05Speaker 3: electricity or whatever like, and it just doesn't get lost.
- 9:07Speaker 3: Really helpful.
- 9:09Speaker 1: So what is the easiest way to manage our expenses? Then? VD,
- 9:14Speaker 1: we're young, we're out of home, and now we're like,
- 9:17Speaker 1: oh my hat life, it's expensive. How do we deal
- 9:21Speaker 1: with that?
- 9:21Speaker 3: You have a budget And I'm sorry that that's so bland,
- 9:24Speaker 3: but a budget is just going to tell you what
- 9:27Speaker 3: to expect. There's a free one on the She's on
- 9:29Speaker 3: the money website, download it, use it. I've put as
- 9:32Speaker 3: many categories in as I think are necessary completely editable,
- 9:36Speaker 3: though you can add your own categories. You can delete
- 9:39Speaker 3: all mine if you think they're terrible. But it will
- 9:42Speaker 3: show you what your income is, It will show you
- 9:44Speaker 3: what your expenses are, and you could even play around
- 9:46Speaker 3: with that budget and just put in pretend expenses, like
- 9:50Speaker 3: do a mock budget, Like that's something that I think
- 9:53Speaker 3: is a really good tool. If you're thinking about moving
- 9:55Speaker 3: out or even thinking about leasing somewhere more expensive, put
- 9:59Speaker 3: in the new expenses and see what that does to
- 10:00Speaker 3: your cash flow and how much you'll be able to
- 10:02Speaker 3: save or how much you'll be able to live on
- 10:04Speaker 3: for groceries or whatever that looks like. But I do
- 10:08Speaker 3: genuinely think you need to plan and actually just break
- 10:11Speaker 3: it down, like we can't not have a budget. A
- 10:14Speaker 3: budget is not something that's restrictive. It's actually something that
- 10:18Speaker 3: tells you how much money is going into your bank
- 10:19Speaker 3: account and how much is coming out and do I
- 10:22Speaker 3: have enough to meet my commitments? Like it's not actually
- 10:25Speaker 3: going well, actually, Georgia, you only have fifty dollars a
- 10:28Speaker 3: week for groceries. It's how much are you spending on groceries?
- 10:31Speaker 3: And is that stopping you from paying the electricity bill,
- 10:34Speaker 3: because if it is, you're not going to have electricity
- 10:36Speaker 3: or you might get kicked out of your house. Like,
- 10:38Speaker 3: it's actually really important for you to understand how much
- 10:41Speaker 3: money you have coming in and how much you have
- 10:44Speaker 3: going out, even if you're at UNI, even if you're
- 10:46Speaker 3: casually employed and just do a few shifts here and there,
- 10:49Speaker 3: even if you're on centlink, it doesn't matter. You just
- 10:52Speaker 3: need to understand how much do I have each and
- 10:54Speaker 3: every single week to allocate towards the expenses that I
- 10:57Speaker 3: have in my life. That's as simple as it gets.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Probably as well be assume the worst with those fluctuating
- 11:04Speaker 1: bills just as expensive as I always like to build
- 11:09Speaker 1: in a buffer and make sure I have a little
- 11:11Speaker 1: bit more. And I know that's a luxury that not
- 11:14Speaker 1: everyone can afford. But if you can build in a buffer, great,
- 11:18Speaker 1: And if you can have your emergency account, that's also
- 11:21Speaker 1: really important. And I'd actually like to go back right now,
- 11:24Speaker 1: so like pretend there's like a little rewind sound and
- 11:27Speaker 1: go back to the top of the podcast where I said,
- 11:29Speaker 1: what are expenses that you'd want to have before you're
- 11:31Speaker 1: moving out? If you have the grace of time to
- 11:35Speaker 1: plan and save before you're moving out. Save your emergency fund,
- 11:39Speaker 1: put it to the side. You're going to feel a
- 11:41Speaker 1: million times better. You're going to feel financially secure if
- 11:44Speaker 1: you don't pick up a shift at work or something changes,
- 11:47Speaker 1: or you know, you break a light and you have
- 11:49Speaker 1: to replace it and then you have to split it
- 11:51Speaker 1: between the housemates, Like, you're not stressed about those costs.
- 11:55Speaker 1: So how much rent is too much? Rent? Is percentage
- 12:00Speaker 1: of our income? I know you're gonna say no.
- 12:03Speaker 3: I don't like percentages, and I just don't like percentages
- 12:06Speaker 3: because it makes you compare yourself to other people. So
- 12:10Speaker 3: it's immediately saying, well, that's the expectation, compare yourself to that.
- 12:13Speaker 3: Are you meeting that expectation when in reality that's not
- 12:17Speaker 3: the case. Like I've said this before, but say I
- 12:20Speaker 3: said to you the optimal amount Georgia to save is
- 12:24Speaker 3: twenty percent of your income, You'd be like, okay, great,
- 12:27Speaker 3: love having a goal, But if you earn four hundred
- 12:30Speaker 3: thousand dollars a year, I'd want you to be saving
- 12:32Speaker 3: a lot more than that, because obviously that's a lot
- 12:34Speaker 3: of cash flow. But if you're a single mum, and
- 12:38Speaker 3: you earn forty grand a year. That's an expectation that
- 12:40Speaker 3: you're putting on yourself. That just makes you feel terrible
- 12:43Speaker 3: about yourself because that's not possible. So that's why we
- 12:46Speaker 3: don't like percentages. But working out what your goals and
- 12:50Speaker 3: what your cash flow is and what you're comfortable is
- 12:52Speaker 3: is really important. Now to completely contradict myself, I would
- 12:58Speaker 3: never want to see you paying like more more than
- 13:00Speaker 3: thirty percent of your income towards rent. But I have
- 13:03Speaker 3: seen friends, I've seen people in the community who are
- 13:05Speaker 3: paying fifty percent of their income towards rent or sixty
- 13:08Speaker 3: percent of their income towards rent, And you know what,
- 13:11Speaker 3: in some situations, completely unavoidable. Like I'm not judging it,
- 13:15Speaker 3: but it is not constructive. You need to really re
- 13:18Speaker 3: evaluate that because that's a lot of money for rent.
- 13:22Speaker 3: Like and I don't see rent money as dead money.
- 13:25Speaker 3: That is not how we view rent. Is you choosing
- 13:27Speaker 3: a lifestyle you could choose to live in the city.
- 13:30Speaker 3: That is your investment in that lifestyle and living your
- 13:33Speaker 3: best life, and you know your mental health in your
- 13:36Speaker 3: living experience. That's really important. But I think it's also
- 13:39Speaker 3: really important to go Okay, cool, Like how much money
- 13:41Speaker 3: do you actually have coming in? Are you a real
- 13:44Speaker 3: Wrencher UNI student, so it doesn't matter so much, so
- 13:46Speaker 3: you can have the nicer apartment. Like how much can
- 13:49Speaker 3: you personally afford out of your cash flow? Is it
- 13:51Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty dollars a week? Is it three
- 13:53Speaker 3: hundred dollars a week? Just work out what that is
- 13:56Speaker 3: and then go from there.
- 13:58Speaker 1: You hear a little bit about Renter's insurance fee. Yes,
- 14:02Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on that? Is that something that
- 14:03Speaker 1: we should be I.
- 14:05Speaker 3: Love insurance, Yeah, because I'm very averse to risk, and
- 14:08Speaker 3: I like to cover any risk that I have. Renter's
- 14:11Speaker 3: insurance is not going to cover the property, but it
- 14:14Speaker 3: will cover your assets if there's a fire in the
- 14:16Speaker 3: property and they get damaged, or flood in the property
- 14:19Speaker 3: and it gets damaged, or a burglar breaks in steals
- 14:21Speaker 3: your iMac. So I think it's important to have because
- 14:24Speaker 3: it's just protecting yourself. And Renter's insurance can actually be
- 14:27Speaker 3: quite reasonable. Like you might not have looked into it
- 14:29Speaker 3: because you're like, I cannot afford another cost. I get it,
- 14:33Speaker 3: but average from our research Georgia King, and I mean
- 14:36Speaker 3: we could have been more comprehensive here, but we weren't.
- 14:39Speaker 3: Is about one hundred and fifty dollars a year, so
- 14:42Speaker 3: that's pretty reasonable, especially when.
- 14:44Speaker 1: You split it between multiple housemates or you and your
- 14:46Speaker 1: partner whatever it means.
- 14:47Speaker 3: Yes, and that's the important thing with Renter's insurance. You
- 14:50Speaker 3: can't just get it for Georgia King's bedroom like you can't.
- 14:54Speaker 3: It's for that house. So you could choose to split
- 14:57Speaker 3: it between your housemates and go cool, three me fifty
- 15:00Speaker 3: dollars and then we've got insurance, or you could pay
- 15:04Speaker 3: for it outright if your housemates don't want it and
- 15:06Speaker 3: just not list their items or you know, it's your insurance,
- 15:09Speaker 3: but it does cover the whole house. I urge towards
- 15:12Speaker 3: having it because I like peace of mind to know
- 15:14Speaker 3: that it's protected. And if you're a UNI student or
- 15:16Speaker 3: you're like moving out for the first time, like a
- 15:19Speaker 3: three thousand dollars MacBook, going missing is seriously going to
- 15:22Speaker 3: impact your budgeting, and knowing that you've got an insurance
- 15:25Speaker 3: policy that just protects that, to me is really important. Yeah,
- 15:29Speaker 3: And I mean I have a lot of nice shoes,
- 15:31Speaker 3: so I want to make sure they were protected.
- 15:32Speaker 1: Too, and some nice earrings which I saw earlier.
- 15:35Speaker 3: They were on my desk.
- 15:36Speaker 1: Lovely. All right, let's leave it there for now, but
- 15:39Speaker 1: after the break we will be chatting through our tips
- 15:41Speaker 1: and the tips from the Shoes on the Money community
- 15:43Speaker 1: on how to save when you're out of home. So please, guys,
- 15:47Speaker 1: do not go anywhere. Let's get straight into it. We've
- 15:59Speaker 1: knocked our heads together, we've had to look through the group.
- 16:02Speaker 1: Let's talk about how to save when we're out of home.
- 16:05Speaker 3: Okay, we could consider having that conversation. I was really bad,
- 16:10Speaker 3: did it? Yeah? Look, I was really bad at saving.
- 16:13Speaker 3: But here's an aspirational list of things Victoria wished she
- 16:17Speaker 3: did when she was between the ages of eighteen and
- 16:19Speaker 3: twenty three.
- 16:20Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, hey, I've got some tips. Remember my tip
- 16:22Speaker 1: from Friday drinks, eat your mango, ditch lunch with your friends.
- 16:26Speaker 1: Just have your dried mango from your back.
- 16:27Speaker 3: Look, if you were in a position where that was necessary,
- 16:31Speaker 3: I would totally agree and be like, you know what,
- 16:33Speaker 3: you're doing the best thing for you at that point
- 16:34Speaker 3: in time. But knowing you, okay, Georgia, of course you did.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Yeah, that could have been the most boring story I've
- 16:41Speaker 1: ever told on the podcast as well. So apologies, guys.
- 16:44Speaker 3: That's not the case. But I know you went through
- 16:46Speaker 3: the Facebook group and got a couple of tips and
- 16:48Speaker 3: tricks from our community. What are they?
- 16:50Speaker 1: Okay, So we've broken this up. So the first section
- 16:53Speaker 1: is home day call and essential. So because you do
- 16:57Speaker 1: have to style your place, you it has to look cute, yeah,
- 17:00Speaker 1: like obviously not like we haven't gone straight into the
- 17:03Speaker 1: essentials of like cool, you need to buy a toilet
- 17:05Speaker 1: brush and please have a mattress like bedframe negotiable, not necessary.
- 17:11Speaker 1: I had a housemate for a while who had milk crates. Yeah.
- 17:13Speaker 3: Also fine, they work, Yeah, they work, they do the job.
- 17:17Speaker 3: But yeah, I think this conversation is just about, like,
- 17:18Speaker 3: how do you actually save while also having a whole
- 17:21Speaker 3: ep of overheads that you've never had before.
- 17:23Speaker 1: Precisely so Joanne from our group. She suggested the brilliant,
- 17:27Speaker 1: the obvious gum Tree marketplace and eBay for those bigger
- 17:31Speaker 1: items like couches, TVs, fridges, washing machines.
- 17:34Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's actually one of the best ways to
- 17:37Speaker 3: do it. So, like, I remember you and I having
- 17:39Speaker 3: this conversation, and my sister has done this as well.
- 17:42Speaker 3: She's a little horder. I love it. But before she
- 17:45Speaker 3: moved out, she started collecting things and stealing things from
- 17:48Speaker 3: my mum and putting them in her box in her
- 17:50Speaker 3: bedroom for her future kitchen. She's like, oh, you have
- 17:53Speaker 3: two colanders. What a co inky dink? You now have one,
- 17:56Speaker 3: but preparing for it before you move out great idea.
- 18:00Speaker 3: Like if you go to op shops, you can get cutlery,
- 18:02Speaker 3: you can get plates and bowls and like look around.
- 18:05Speaker 3: That is how I furnished my first house because I
- 18:07Speaker 3: also had the privilege of taking things from my mum's
- 18:10Speaker 3: kitchen that I knew she wasn't using. But how good
- 18:13Speaker 3: is it to get secondhand stuff? Like usually you can
- 18:16Speaker 3: get a pretty good quality count that's the cost of
- 18:19Speaker 3: an Ica one? Like sure for me, Yeah, I like
- 18:22Speaker 3: to have a look around though, but it does take
- 18:24Speaker 3: a lot more effort than just going on the Ikea
- 18:27Speaker 3: website and having one delivered. I'm not saying that that's
- 18:30Speaker 3: what you should do. I'm just saying more a really
- 18:32Speaker 3: nice one.
- 18:33Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I mean there's so much choice on
- 18:36Speaker 1: there and you can get pretty much everything that you need.
- 18:39Speaker 1: Thoughts on mattresses, I think a mattress is a good investment.
- 18:43Speaker 3: I don't know who told me this. I feel like
- 18:45Speaker 3: it was my dad, but I don't know. But whoever,
- 18:48Speaker 3: this smart person was said that you should save money
- 18:53Speaker 3: on everything that doesn't separate you from the ground. So
- 18:57Speaker 3: you should buy good mattresses, good wheels for your car.
- 19:00Speaker 3: You should buy good shoes because they impact your posture.
- 19:03Speaker 1: And I just thought that was smart from Papa Eric.
- 19:06Speaker 3: Maybe Papa Eric, We don't know. Maybe Dad, Yeah, maybe Dad,
- 19:09Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll confirm with him later. We'll just
- 19:12Speaker 3: give him the credit because that's a good tip.
- 19:16Speaker 1: The obvious here as well is Camart. Guys.
- 19:19Speaker 3: Look, I know that Camart is great. We all love it,
- 19:21Speaker 3: we all go there. If you're in a position where
- 19:24Speaker 3: you can be more sustainable and buy more things, I
- 19:27Speaker 3: think that is great. But I also think it's just
- 19:30Speaker 3: about being a little bit more conscious with our spending.
- 19:33Speaker 3: Like Camart's really accessible, and if you're going to be
- 19:36Speaker 3: using this item all the time and it's going to
- 19:38Speaker 3: break every two months and you go buy a new one,
- 19:40Speaker 3: I'd probably err towards saying, well, Georgia, buy the more
- 19:43Speaker 3: expensive can opener, like buy the thing that keeps breaking,
- 19:46Speaker 3: Like stop being disposable about it. But do you know
- 19:49Speaker 3: how much stuff I have in my kitchen that's from
- 19:51Speaker 3: Kmart like ten years ago. I still use it, I
- 19:53Speaker 3: still love it. I'm not going to get rid of it.
- 19:55Speaker 3: And I think that it's just about making the decision
- 19:58Speaker 3: that's right for you, not necessarily what everybody else thinks.
- 20:02Speaker 1: The number one essential to home decor is, of course, plants.
- 20:06Speaker 1: V day, I'm gonna handball this one to you.
- 20:08Speaker 3: Why are you going to hand all it to me?
- 20:09Speaker 3: Because you are the plant lord I am. I actually
- 20:12Speaker 3: thought you were going to say, because you take clippings
- 20:15Speaker 3: of everybody else's plants and therefore you get free plants.
- 20:17Speaker 3: Precisely true. But in my opinion, plants are essential apart
- 20:23Speaker 3: from like a mattress also essential. But obviously Bunning's really
- 20:27Speaker 3: great place. Really cheap plants at Ikea. Yeah, really cheap
- 20:31Speaker 3: plants on Facebook marketplace as well. I feel like I'm biased,
- 20:37Speaker 3: but if you're moving out of home, don't have a
- 20:39Speaker 3: lot of decre like a plant might be fifteen bucks,
- 20:42Speaker 3: but it adds a lot to the space to make
- 20:44Speaker 3: it feel a little bit more homey, a little bit
- 20:45Speaker 3: more comfortable. Again. Personal opinion I mean, you probably are
- 20:49Speaker 3: listening to this podcast trying to get legit advice, being
- 20:52Speaker 3: like Victoria, how much do I need to say, buy
- 20:55Speaker 3: a plant or marketplace?
- 20:56Speaker 1: Head to Bunning.
- 20:57Speaker 3: I have no regrets about that though, but yeah, again
- 21:01Speaker 3: worth it obviously, but again, don't feel pressure to have
- 21:05Speaker 3: your home ready for the architectural design tour. Like just
- 21:09Speaker 3: make it your home and your stuff. And I guess
- 21:12Speaker 3: that's why I really liked when I was first moving
- 21:14Speaker 3: out of home looking at op shops and like, I
- 21:17Speaker 3: had the grace of time on my side, so I
- 21:19Speaker 3: knew I was going to move out, so I could
- 21:21Speaker 3: go to lots of different op shops and I wasn't
- 21:23Speaker 3: like desperate to get stuff in a week. Like for
- 21:26Speaker 3: the six months before I moved out, I was looking
- 21:28Speaker 3: online and I was going to different op shops and
- 21:31Speaker 3: browsing around, and I had a list of things I
- 21:33Speaker 3: wanted to get, and op shops were really great, Like
- 21:36Speaker 3: I remember picking up a really sick looking coffee table
- 21:39Speaker 3: that my last housemates doll So that was good.
- 21:43Speaker 1: The next lot giv is bill management.
- 21:46Speaker 3: Yeah, that one's a tough one.
- 21:47Speaker 1: We did touch on it earlier. But what's the best
- 21:50Speaker 1: way for us to keep costs down when it comes
- 21:52Speaker 1: to our bills.
- 21:53Speaker 3: Being savvy. So when I say being savvy, obviously keeping
- 21:56Speaker 3: a budget and knowing what your expenses are going to be,
- 22:00Speaker 3: but also just being curious, like can I get a
- 22:02Speaker 3: better deal, what's going on over there, how much of
- 22:04Speaker 3: my friend's paying yea, and just being on top of
- 22:07Speaker 3: it because so many times, good example of this is
- 22:10Speaker 3: my phone bill. I thought I was getting a really
- 22:13Speaker 3: good deal because I broke it, this good deal like
- 22:15Speaker 3: two and a half years ago or something on the
- 22:17Speaker 3: phone with the guy from my phone provider, and I
- 22:21Speaker 3: was really happy with it, so I didn't think about
- 22:23Speaker 3: it again. But it had been two and a half years.
- 22:26Speaker 3: So my friends were getting a better deal, and when
- 22:28Speaker 3: we're at brunch one time, they were like, oh yeah,
- 22:30Speaker 3: like my phone plans like thirty bucks and I have
- 22:32Speaker 3: unlimited data. And I was like, wait, what, Like mine's
- 22:35Speaker 3: like fifty dollars and I have like two gigs of data.
- 22:39Speaker 3: So I think it's just important that even though you
- 22:41Speaker 3: got a good deal in the first place, at that
- 22:43Speaker 3: point in time, renewing and refreshing things often is really important.
- 22:48Speaker 3: And this is not a sponsored mention. I just think
- 22:51Speaker 3: is a really good recommendation. We do work with them, though.
- 22:55Speaker 3: Get reminded the app. You can download it and put
- 22:58Speaker 3: all of your reminders in, and it's not reminding you
- 23:01Speaker 3: that your bill's do you can set it up for that,
- 23:03Speaker 3: but it will remind you in twelve months to be like, hey, ge,
- 23:06Speaker 3: you last reviewed your electricity twelve months ago. Spend five minutes,
- 23:11Speaker 3: go do a quick quote comparison. Do the same for
- 23:13Speaker 3: your car insurance and make sure you're always getting the
- 23:16Speaker 3: best deal. And I think there's also a lot of
- 23:19Speaker 3: power even if you can't find a better deal online.
- 23:22Speaker 3: Once a year, give them a buzz. Hello. I am
- 23:25Speaker 3: a very valued customer of yours, and I was just wondering,
- 23:28Speaker 3: am I eligible for any discounts or any you know,
- 23:31Speaker 3: rebates or anything like that, or is there a better
- 23:34Speaker 3: deal that you could do? And if you're kind on
- 23:36Speaker 3: the phone, that person's probably very likely to be like, oh,
- 23:39Speaker 3: this girl's nice, I'd love to help her out. So
- 23:42Speaker 3: I think that there's a lot of power in just
- 23:45Speaker 3: being curious and on top of it and never feeling
- 23:48Speaker 3: like you are a burden. Does that make sense? Like
- 23:50Speaker 3: so many times we're like, oh my gosh, I don't
- 23:52Speaker 3: want to call. It's literally the people on the other
- 23:54Speaker 3: end of the line's job, and hopefully they like their
- 23:57Speaker 3: jobs and they want to have a chat with you.
- 24:00Speaker 3: Otherwise they wouldn't have applied for that job.
- 24:02Speaker 1: And they want to keep you on board. They want
- 24:04Speaker 1: to give you a good deal so you stay with them.
- 24:05Speaker 3: And a couple of Friday episodes ago, we were talking
- 24:08Speaker 3: and Ryan John said, like, it's not like you're picking
- 24:11Speaker 3: up the phone and the CEO answers, like, they're people
- 24:15Speaker 3: like you and I and they're people in our community,
- 24:18Speaker 3: and I just think, Yeah, it's not as scary to call.
- 24:20Speaker 1: I promise definitely not. The next point here is from Nikita,
- 24:25Speaker 1: and she said, to help keep bills down, turn off
- 24:27Speaker 1: power when you're not using it. Yeah, only use the
- 24:30Speaker 1: heater when you really need it, Okay, jump.
- 24:33Speaker 3: Here on really important. Yeah, the heater in winter really
- 24:36Speaker 3: does add up, and also the aircn in summer. Like,
- 24:40Speaker 3: I feel like there's a lot there to unpack.
- 24:43Speaker 1: And have the chat with your housemates as well, because
- 24:46Speaker 1: if one of you is working from home and the
- 24:48Speaker 1: others are in the office, but that person has a
- 24:49Speaker 1: heater on all days.
- 24:51Speaker 3: Does that look like ya, and to be honest, it
- 24:54Speaker 3: can be really frustrating, Like if you haven't moved out
- 24:56Speaker 3: of home yet, you're like, oh, I'll be chill. These
- 24:59Speaker 3: things that up and they grind your gears and they
- 25:02Speaker 3: create unnecessary frustration with your housemates. It is better to
- 25:06Speaker 3: just have a conversation and say, hey, like your home
- 25:09Speaker 3: all the time, what are we going to do about it?
- 25:11Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 25:11Speaker 3: I think hot tip here not related to cost, but
- 25:15Speaker 3: more related to communication. When it comes to talking to
- 25:18Speaker 3: potential housemates, don't accuse them of something. Use a motive
- 25:23Speaker 3: language like oh, I feel like you're potentially using more electricity.
- 25:27Speaker 3: That's much easier to have a proper adult conversation than Georgia,
- 25:31Speaker 3: you work from home and you use more electricity, Like,
- 25:34Speaker 3: that's you going in really confrontationally. So I think thinking
- 25:38Speaker 3: about our language before we want to have a conversation
- 25:40Speaker 3: with a housemate is going to pay off because we've
- 25:43Speaker 3: all been in a situation where you're frustrated with a housemate,
- 25:46Speaker 3: because lord knows, they can get really frustrating. But having
- 25:50Speaker 3: an adult conversation and approaching it from a position like hey,
- 25:53Speaker 3: it's actually you and I against the problem, not you
- 25:56Speaker 3: and I against each other, So how are we going
- 25:59Speaker 3: to deal with It's like, what's the most fair way
- 26:02Speaker 3: to split the electricity? J You work from home five
- 26:05Speaker 3: days a week and I don't yeap. Like that's an
- 26:07Speaker 3: adult and very helpful conversation to have instead of getting
- 26:11Speaker 3: frustrated and being like Georgia, you work from home and
- 26:14Speaker 3: you use more electricity and it's unfair.
- 26:17Speaker 1: Yeah, and they might not have even thought about it exactly,
- 26:19Speaker 1: just like have the chat. Don't let resentment build for
- 26:21Speaker 1: no reason.
- 26:22Speaker 3: Yeah, And nine times out of ten the other person's
- 26:24Speaker 3: just oblivious. Yeah.
- 26:25Speaker 1: And you're like, I can't believe they're audacity and they
- 26:27Speaker 1: it's like they don't know, Like just tell them, yeah,
- 26:30Speaker 1: yeah for sure. Okay. The next lot here is our
- 26:33Speaker 1: food tips. V Lord Courtney in our group said that
- 26:36Speaker 1: when it comes to food, it really pays to be
- 26:38Speaker 1: as organized as you can, which really makes sense. Plan
- 26:41Speaker 1: ahead so that you don't end up at the supermarket
- 26:44Speaker 1: night after night by yeah, you know, more chips.
- 26:47Speaker 3: Yeah. And one hot tip that I have is have
- 26:50Speaker 3: a few backup meals in the pantry, things that last.
- 26:53Speaker 3: So have some pasta and a few like packet sources,
- 26:57Speaker 3: and I know that. You know, maybe you're a good
- 26:59Speaker 3: chef and you want to cook everything from scratch, but
- 27:02Speaker 3: I guarantee you if you've just come home from work
- 27:04Speaker 3: or UNI or whatever you've been doing that day and
- 27:06Speaker 3: you're exhausting, you're like, I don't want to go to
- 27:08Speaker 3: the supermarket. You've got a back up. It was a
- 27:10Speaker 3: really cost effective backup that's in the pantry for the
- 27:13Speaker 3: times where you're just a bit tired, don't want to
- 27:15Speaker 3: go and do the supermarket, but would have leaned on
- 27:17Speaker 3: New Breats.
- 27:18Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
- 27:18Speaker 3: So have a few backup meals and factor that into
- 27:21Speaker 3: the budget to have in the pantry. Make sure they're
- 27:24Speaker 3: long lasting though, because you don't want to go to
- 27:25Speaker 3: the supermarket everywhere and be like, oh, heaps of fresh
- 27:27Speaker 3: produce and veggies and then they go off and you're
- 27:30Speaker 3: throwing them out. Like we're thinking long term, So like
- 27:32Speaker 3: frozen veggies in the freezer, which.
- 27:34Speaker 1: Are really good sources of nutrients, and having like some
- 27:38Speaker 1: pasta and like maybe some sauces that you can use,
- 27:40Speaker 1: which I think are really helpful or better yet, if.
- 27:44Speaker 3: You're cooking, always cook an extra meal and chuck it
- 27:46Speaker 3: in the freezer. Much She's gonna thank you for that one.
- 27:49Speaker 1: And we're all about future you aren't we you? We
- 27:51Speaker 1: absolutely are sticking to a price limit on groceries. Also
- 27:54Speaker 1: a hot tip that I used to try and do.
- 27:57Speaker 1: I think i'd stick around the sixty to eighty a week. Yeah,
- 28:01Speaker 1: that's pretty all right. Yeah, and I'd be like, oh,
- 28:03Speaker 1: do you need that extra thing? Maybe not?
- 28:05Speaker 3: Yeah? And hot tip to make you think about it
- 28:08Speaker 3: more while you're actually shopping, because it's so easy to
- 28:10Speaker 3: slip another block of chocolate into the cart, take the
- 28:13Speaker 3: cash out, Yeah, spend that for a while. Yet know
- 28:16Speaker 3: that that eighty bucks is in your wallet and you
- 28:18Speaker 3: can't go over it because you don't have anymore. So
- 28:20Speaker 3: you're going to be more conscious going around the supermarke
- 28:23Speaker 3: and be like, oh do I need it? Yeah, I've
- 28:25Speaker 3: got that. And you might know that you've only spent
- 28:27Speaker 3: sixty bucks so you can have the chocolate. Yeah, exactly.
- 28:30Speaker 3: We just don't want unnecessary spending.
- 28:32Speaker 1: Yeah. Final tip is, of course, to get around gossips
- 28:35Speaker 1: wine four dollars a bottle Georgia. You're gonna love it,
- 28:38Speaker 1: are you. We used to pretend we were just cooking
- 28:41Speaker 1: a stew. Your sister and I yeah, of course you were.
- 28:44Speaker 1: We just need the six we're making a stewicer. Oh
- 28:47Speaker 1: and ye that'll be twenty dollars.
- 28:49Speaker 3: You cheap, cheap lady. I don't think I could get
- 28:53Speaker 3: around Gossip's wine.
- 28:54Speaker 1: Probably not. Now to the finer things, yeah, the finer
- 28:58Speaker 1: things in life, like six dollar bottles, But yeah, I
- 29:01Speaker 1: think I think that's one thing that can really add up.
- 29:04Speaker 1: And you know, again, when I was at UNI, food
- 29:07Speaker 1: did get out of control quite often. I'm someone who
- 29:10Speaker 1: loves having my friends over and entertaining, and I'd always
- 29:14Speaker 1: feel like, oh, I had to cook them the meal.
- 29:16Speaker 1: So get around it. If someone's going to come.
- 29:18Speaker 3: Over, hey, gee, you bring the wine, I'll cook dinner.
- 29:21Speaker 3: And just like have conversations that are a little bit
- 29:23Speaker 3: more money conscious because they're going to pay off in
- 29:25Speaker 3: the long term and make everybody feel a little bit
- 29:27Speaker 3: more equitable.
- 29:29Speaker 1: And also remember we did that a cookbook online last year.
- 29:33Speaker 3: We tell friend Millie Padulla, who is one of the
- 29:36Speaker 3: most delightful humans an angel. I follow her on Instagram.
- 29:38Speaker 3: She's getting like real popular.
- 29:40Speaker 1: She is Dietitian edition if you want to follow her.
- 29:42Speaker 1: But we we collaborated last year and did a big
- 29:46Speaker 1: cookbook with lots of budget recipes, which, yeah, now she's
- 29:49Speaker 1: gone viral. Love Your Meal v. To round out today's show,
- 29:55Speaker 1: there was a final tip from Jess in our group,
- 29:58Speaker 1: who said that we do need to be careful about
- 30:00Speaker 1: who we choose to live with, because it's true living
- 30:02Speaker 1: with friends can be risky.
- 30:04Speaker 3: Any thoughts on that really hard again communication. I've seen
- 30:08Speaker 3: a lot of friendships dissolve completely because they've moved out
- 30:11Speaker 3: with their best friend ever and then it's hit the fan.
- 30:16Speaker 3: I think you just need to be really conscious of
- 30:18Speaker 3: it because it can be really hard. I have lived
- 30:21Speaker 3: with my best friend, so Steph and I live together
- 30:23Speaker 3: for like three years or just over that, which I
- 30:26Speaker 3: is a pretty good stint when it comes to having
- 30:28Speaker 3: a housemate, and there were some hot times where it's
- 30:31Speaker 3: got a little bit spicy between the two of us,
- 30:34Speaker 3: but I guess both of us having psychology degrees and
- 30:37Speaker 3: being relatively good at communicating, they never lasted too long.
- 30:41Speaker 3: But I think you need to really evaluate who you
- 30:43Speaker 3: do live with because it can get pretty nasty if not.
- 30:47Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be scary, but like, if you
- 30:49Speaker 3: really value that friendship and don't want to put it
- 30:51Speaker 3: at risk, Like saying that is putting that relationship first,
- 30:56Speaker 3: and I think that's really nice. I feel like, oh,
- 30:57Speaker 3: I would never want to lose that friend. We both
- 31:00Speaker 3: be hot headed and I just don't want it to
- 31:03Speaker 3: blow up. I think it's really important but also really
- 31:05Speaker 3: important to remember that more often than not, your housemate
- 31:08Speaker 3: is very unaware of how your pentapanger is building up,
- 31:11Speaker 3: Like they don't know, they've got no idea. Talk to them,
- 31:14Speaker 3: Like so many times. I remember when I was like eighteen,
- 31:18Speaker 3: just moved out. I moved out with like a relatively
- 31:20Speaker 3: large group of people and not always be so frustrated,
- 31:22Speaker 3: but no one knew.
- 31:23Speaker 1: I was frostrated.
- 31:25Speaker 3: So yeah, talk to them, have chats, be good at communication,
- 31:29Speaker 3: and don't be accusatory when trying to have discussions because regardless,
- 31:34Speaker 3: like now this is a relationships podcast, but in any situation,
- 31:39Speaker 3: whether that is work or life or with your partner,
- 31:41Speaker 3: Like if you accuse someone of something, they're gonna immediately
- 31:44Speaker 3: be defensive. Because if I go, Georgia, you did X.
- 31:47Speaker 3: If you did it, you're gonna be like, oh, I
- 31:49Speaker 3: have to be defensive because like they're seeing this is
- 31:52Speaker 3: a bad thing. If they didn't do it. They're going
- 31:54Speaker 3: to be defensive because they have to defend themselves because
- 31:57Speaker 3: you've just said something incorrect. Whereas if you go, hey,
- 32:00Speaker 3: I feel, and the I feel comments are really helpful,
- 32:03Speaker 3: especially when it comes to housemates or hey, there's this
- 32:07Speaker 3: issue that we need to solve together, is really helpful.
- 32:10Speaker 3: Sounds a bit fluffy, but I promise you it will
- 32:12Speaker 3: come in handy.
- 32:12Speaker 1: It's good and face to face. Don't don't be sending
- 32:14Speaker 1: those passive messages girls.
- 32:17Speaker 3: No passive aggressive Facebook messages to the group. Once you've
- 32:20Speaker 3: left the house. No passive aggressive notes left in the fridge.
- 32:24Speaker 3: You talk to your housemate like the person that they are.
- 32:27Speaker 3: If we could do an entire housemate Tales podcast, wouldn't
- 32:31Speaker 3: we just It wouldn't even just be an episode. It
- 32:33Speaker 3: to be a serious.
- 32:34Speaker 1: Week past past housemates in on the mi.
- 32:37Speaker 3: Like money da stories about our housemates. We are done here,
- 32:41Speaker 3: have fun moving out friends and share all your money
- 32:44Speaker 3: saving tips and tricks with us in the Facebook group.
- 32:46Speaker 3: But we want to hear it.
- 32:47Speaker 1: We love it absolutely.
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- 33:38Speaker 3: She'd be a great housemate, I think she would. She
- 33:41Speaker 3: makes a really good spicy margarita and that is very
- 33:44Speaker 3: good trait for any.
- 33:46Speaker 1: Oh speak of the devil.
- 33:47Speaker 3: She's just walked in.
- 33:48Speaker 1: We have happeny to go bye bye bye