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April Fools, Pseudonyms, and Noisy Gongs · Talk About That

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  Speaker 1: Life audio.
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  Speaker 2: Today, I don't talk about that. John prepares for his
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl and adds a middle initial to his books. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: I channel my inner Chris Farley for a church skit
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  Speaker 2: and tell you the tale of the Spaghetti treat hoax,
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  Speaker 2: plus a conversation about love and the Gospel and why
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  Speaker 2: how we present it shows whether or not we really
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  Speaker 1: What's upb out there? I'm John, This is Johnny. Let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about that. Your favorite neighborhood podcast.
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  Speaker 2: We're just we're providing a service if you will. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're good people.
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  Speaker 1: Well, well we're people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. This is a big week for you as a
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  Speaker 2: church leader. Easter Week. It is big one. That's when
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  Speaker 2: you get your creastors in here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you people, you probably hurt us. We it's our
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  Speaker 1: big joke around here because in the church world. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's a common saying in the hell.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess, guys, this is our super Bowl. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think I remember this.
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  Speaker 1: We don't say it, but yeah, we've heard it said
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  Speaker 1: so many times, like this is our super Bowl, and
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  Speaker 1: we're like, yeah, like the resurrection of the Son of
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  Speaker 1: God that redeemed all of creation and humanity, right, and
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  Speaker 1: it is progressively doing so as compared to the largest
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  Speaker 1: football game in America.
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  Speaker 2: I think the idea of it is that if you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have it, like church has become more of like
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  Speaker 2: a show to people, so like you're gonna say, this
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  Speaker 2: is the big this is the spectacle, this is the
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  Speaker 2: time when we really need to try to retain these people.
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  Speaker 2: So like, okay, so they can give an example, so
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  Speaker 2: the super Bowl. Even casual fans watch the super Bowl. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so my wife will watch the super Bowl. Yeah, could
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  Speaker 2: not care less about NFL football, but she'll watch the
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  Speaker 2: super Bowl. So I think that's that's probably the meaning
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  Speaker 2: behind it is like if we're going to ever get
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  Speaker 2: these casual fans to become real bands of Jesus, we
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  Speaker 2: got to get them on this Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: I know this, I know the meaning.
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  Speaker 2: I just just it is a little offensive. Well said
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  Speaker 2: that about the super Bowl. Guys, this is our super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: No, this is our Easter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Easter.
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  Speaker 1: I want to if they ever have me come speak
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  Speaker 1: to a team for the Super Bowls. Like, guys, I
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  Speaker 1: just want you to know this is our No. I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's one of those like I know what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: I have this and you know this. I have this
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  Speaker 1: complicated relationship with the idea of church growth. Did I
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  Speaker 1: ever send you the thing that it gave me on
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  Speaker 1: LinkedIn that day? I don't know, you know, because it
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  Speaker 1: has all your skills you put in and everything when
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  Speaker 1: I've built the profile and years ago.
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  Speaker 2: It sent me a thing because I'm as an.
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  Speaker 1: Executive pastor and collaborative writer and all these different things
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  Speaker 1: on there. And it said, and people can give you skills.
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  Speaker 1: People can like they can justify or they can quote.
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  Speaker 1: I think John's a good speaker or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I see, yeah, they're giving you like recommendations.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't screenshot it. Yeah, because it said,
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  Speaker 1: John Driver, you are missing one critical skill church growth. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, boy, am I ever how did
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  Speaker 1: you know? But like just that idea?
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  Speaker 2: Who else was Corinth? No, I don't know, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: don't I never went to the church at Corinth. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: well it's Sunday School numbers were atrocious.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't want to like I want to. I
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  Speaker 1: want to grow, yeah, but I really want to be
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  Speaker 1: authentic in the Gospel more than I want to grow now.
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  Speaker 1: I really really do. And that's it's easy to say
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  Speaker 1: for a guy, is that we don't grow much anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I can say that, but we grow and then it
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  Speaker 1: changes and people move away, or things happen, or they
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  Speaker 1: get mad and they don't like her. Whatever that happens,
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  Speaker 1: it's just church.
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  Speaker 2: With I got mad and didn't like you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to deal. I don't want to worry
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  Speaker 1: about that anymore. It's what it is, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: all right, I want to worry about Johnny Salvage. That's
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  Speaker 1: the real.
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  Speaker 2: Probab that said come visit this Easter. And John's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I give up.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even care, No, I di I care. I
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  Speaker 1: just that's that's what's crazy. It's like I talked to
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  Speaker 1: the I talked to the staff a lot about the
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  Speaker 1: the parish model throughout history. Be in your community, Be
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  Speaker 1: a place where the poor are fed, where the Gospel
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  Speaker 1: is preached. Where there when your kids are born, we help.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever it's time to re commit someone's body to the ground.
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  Speaker 1: We're there when you're in trouble, and we helped create
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  Speaker 1: community and we all kind of live in that community
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  Speaker 1: together now, don't. I don't know if some you know,
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  Speaker 1: middle aged, I mean, I'm like in the dark ages
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, if they had a perish somewhere in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of England, if they were really that worried about
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  Speaker 1: their parish being bigger than the villages perish one town
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  Speaker 1: over or not.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to imagine because I mean, yeah, the church
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  Speaker 2: culture has changed so much, but yeah, was there that
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  Speaker 2: exceptionalism where you're like, we have to be doing this
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  Speaker 2: better than the next person. It seems like with human
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  Speaker 2: nature it would have happened.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Did Paul ever write about that the other churches like
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  Speaker 2: stop competing with each other?
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  Speaker 1: Not well, I mean, yes, dissensions and jealousies and factions.
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  Speaker 1: He talked. It was more theological dissensions than it was
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  Speaker 1: based upon the quantifiable outcome.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't like him calling out emphasis but like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're growing, but you're not doing it the right way.
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  Speaker 2: Like you're growing. But yeah, dude, this is all he
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  Speaker 2: was always That's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Was only one church in those towns, right, and then
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  Speaker 1: the home church is as much a model as anything.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: That's something by the way that Francis Chan, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he was a megachurch guy. I love Francis Chan,
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  Speaker 1: and he wrote a book called Crazy Love that was
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  Speaker 1: like a huge bestseller. He went on that megachurch pastor
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  Speaker 1: journey a little bit, and he's in California. And of
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  Speaker 1: course I've written for a lot of megachurch pastors and
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  Speaker 1: so've I've been around that world a lot, and.
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  Speaker 2: He really he just he walked away.
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  Speaker 1: If only guy wanted to be done with that and
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  Speaker 1: went to a homeh church model, yeah, and decided, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you really talk to him or listen to what
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  Speaker 1: he says, there's just he I don't know. And I
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  Speaker 1: know megachurch pastors at the time that were like on
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  Speaker 1: the one guy that I knew real well, and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: I think Francis just didn't get it. We can we
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  Speaker 1: can have this feel with this good community within Mega
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  Speaker 1: and I believe that everybody's called the different things.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's okay. I would never just throw everybody
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  Speaker 2: in the same pot. That's just because they're a large
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  Speaker 2: church that they're doing corporate Christianity and it's it's not
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  Speaker 2: the same, or it's they don't care about the people.
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  Speaker 1: They're better at the growth side of church than I am.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm okay with that. We have different games.
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  Speaker 2: I've been in some big churches that really do care
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  Speaker 2: about the people, and I've seen I mean, I've been
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  Speaker 2: in megachurches where I was in meetings before I was
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  Speaker 2: doing a big event for them, and they were like
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  Speaker 2: weeping about like baptisms that it just happened. They were
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  Speaker 2: like so dialed in. But I've also seen the corporate
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  Speaker 2: side of it that's gross, and I wish that I'd
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  Speaker 2: seen some things I wish I hadn't seen too well.
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  Speaker 1: Again, the church. I had a lot of friends down
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  Speaker 1: in Dallas at Watermark Church. I mean that church is
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  Speaker 1: more committed tommunity and transformation in the community and serving
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  Speaker 1: the poor. I mean then, I mean, and they're huge
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  Speaker 1: and they're twenty thousand people, but they had, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they they had the right emphasis and the right things.
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  Speaker 1: It taught us a lot.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know, It's just one of those things.
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  Speaker 1: Johnny. It's kind of like I could, I can, I
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  Speaker 1: can stop writing because I worry about honey, I sell, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: or I can try to write the best that I
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  Speaker 1: can and know that that I get to I get
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  Speaker 1: to do that.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what I feel about pastors. Better to write
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  Speaker 2: for yourself and have no public than to write for
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  Speaker 2: the public and have no sense of yourself. Wow, like that?
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  Speaker 1: Who was that?
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember that. It might be caurek a guard Okay,
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  Speaker 2: one of those.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, And that might not be necessarily be a ministry
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  Speaker 2: model because you're supposed to be writing for other people.
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  Speaker 2: Technically you're writing with them in mind. Yeah, but you're
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  Speaker 2: writing in other words. Don't change who you are just
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  Speaker 2: to get a public, right, don't You got stuff on
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  Speaker 2: your screen that's not you had the what was that?
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  Speaker 2: But I hope it wasn't secret top secret things John's
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  Speaker 2: got zooming in on the video. John had the screen,
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  Speaker 2: our our logos screen on our video.
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  Speaker 1: And that's always funny because people always let people when
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  Speaker 1: we first started songwriting, you need to get this on letterhead.
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  Speaker 1: Someone will steal your song. And I was like, even
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  Speaker 1: back then, I think I knew no one's gonna steal this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that good one. Come on, if I
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  Speaker 2: think it's good.
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  Speaker 1: But two, wouldn't it be the best thing that ever
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  Speaker 1: happened to us if we had something worth stealing.
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  Speaker 2: I saw this tweet about Easter Week at a church
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  Speaker 2: and they were like, it was funny to me, and
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to say, this is why I brought it
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  Speaker 2: up to you today. They said, this is where you
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  Speaker 2: find out if you're on the A team or the
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  Speaker 2: B team worship wise, because if you know, if you
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  Speaker 2: don't get the invite to do Easter, you're like, boy,
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  Speaker 2: but you guys have a pretty slim You guys have
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  Speaker 2: like a nice skeleton career anyway, So it's like all
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  Speaker 2: hands on deck, right.
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  Speaker 1: No, we have we have three bass players.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do have one drummer. If you're the third choice, buddy,
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  Speaker 2: you need to step it up. Well we have.
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  Speaker 1: We can now bring our other drummer back up from
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  Speaker 1: children's because we have. We chatted to the staff and so.
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  Speaker 2: A children's drummer. He's a little boy.
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  Speaker 1: He's just he's at.
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  Speaker 2: He does. He has no gift to bring. Literally, he's
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  Speaker 2: that bad. He has no gift, no gift at all.
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  Speaker 2: He has no gift for drumming. Honestly, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Know are you gonna be here?
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  Speaker 2: No, I just this is like a tiny break in
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  Speaker 2: our schedule, and so we're going to take a little trip,
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  Speaker 2: take a little trip. Hey.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know who didn't take a little trip out
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  Speaker 1: of town when they were tired around Eastern Jeez? His
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  Speaker 1: name was Jesus, and.
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  Speaker 2: You know the little trip he took. He went to
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  Speaker 2: Hell and fought the devil and got the keys to death,
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  Speaker 2: Hell and the grave.
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  Speaker 1: So why what are you doing? You're trying to just
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  Speaker 1: go out of town.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm excited for you. I think you need
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  Speaker 2: the break.
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  Speaker 1: No jealousy and me at all.
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  Speaker 2: You know what we I think the show needs a
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  Speaker 2: break right now. So let's take a break and here
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  Speaker 2: from a few of our fine sponsors, and we're back.
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  Speaker 1: I know I am excited for you.
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  Speaker 2: And I know you're not, but it's okay. I mean
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  Speaker 2: I don't need your excitement you. Let me say this though,
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  Speaker 2: as we record this tonight, you're gonna get to meet
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  Speaker 2: Stephen Coast Chapman because of me.
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  Speaker 1: No, probably, I'm aware. And you paid for lunch today too.
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  Speaker 2: I did pay for lunch today.
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  Speaker 1: That was not intentional.
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to pay for I'm very magnanimous as
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  Speaker 2: a person. I just I love people.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to do good.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even want credit. No, you would even mention it.
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  Speaker 2: You would even I would never even say it into
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  Speaker 2: a microphone.
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  Speaker 1: Right for millions of listeners to hear, millions and millions
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  Speaker 1: all the good things.
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  Speaker 2: That you know. But yeah, you're gonna get to meet
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  Speaker 2: the SCC tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I think I met him once in passing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not the same.
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  Speaker 1: I wrote for a guy and he passed away last
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  Speaker 1: year named Mike Hamilton, who was the former athletic director
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  Speaker 1: right the University of Tennessee, and actually was one of
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: those weird things where I just approached him at an
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  Speaker 1: event and it was like, because I really wanted to write,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Tennessee stuff. And we became friends and we'd
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  Speaker 1: hang out and the book never took off that we
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  Speaker 1: were trying to write. Pitched it and did different things,
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  Speaker 1: but became a pretty good friends. But he became the
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  Speaker 1: executive director of Show Hope Agency for the Chapmans, and
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  Speaker 1: I think I had some meetings over there and saw
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  Speaker 1: maybe shook his hand or something walking past kind of thing,
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  Speaker 1: you know, So I put it.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember when I was a youth leader. We
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  Speaker 2: were both youth leaders for our buddy Brian, who was
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  Speaker 2: the youth pastor of Tennessee, and I would I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: doing comedy yet at all, but every now and again
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  Speaker 2: I would get a while here to do like a
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  Speaker 2: skit before church. And one time I found this really
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  Speaker 2: obnoxious looking suit at Goodwill and and I was heavy then,
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  Speaker 2: I was probably two eighty, and I was like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to do Matt Foley. And so I did like
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  Speaker 2: a Matt Foley. Do you remember this Chris Farley, Matt
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  Speaker 2: fall I. I did Matt Foley before or like a
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  Speaker 2: youth He had some Brian wrote some spiritual tie into it.
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  Speaker 2: He just wanted to see me do Matt Foley. And
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: I came out and I said something. I was doing
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  Speaker 2: the whole like VANDWM by the river thing. And then
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  Speaker 2: the thing I remember is I go, uh. I walk
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  Speaker 2: over to you, and I go, what do you want
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  Speaker 2: to be when you grow up? Young man? You're probably
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: twenty two or whatever, and you go, actually, I want
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  Speaker 2: to be a Christian musician. And I go, well, why
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  Speaker 2: do you freaking not? I walk over to Brian and
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  Speaker 2: I go I can't see you real good days. That
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  Speaker 2: Steve Chapman over there, and I had my glasses. Is
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: that Steve Chapman over there? Actually we've encouraged John's songwriting.
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  Speaker 2: I wish you would just shut your big Yeah. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: it was a total ripoff of this sketch. But I
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  Speaker 2: just remember saying, Steve Chapman. May it made me last
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: because he said Bill Shank said Bill Shakes. Is that
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: Bill Shakespeare over there? Oh? Yes, anyway, you get to
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  Speaker 2: meet Steve Chapman and I I want you to call
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: him Steve Chapman.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there is a Steve Chapman who's.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: Oh Steve and Chapman. That's that's probably why he was
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: Stephen Curtis. Probably I need to ask him that question,
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: because that's true.
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  Speaker 1: There's like a it's like a Jesus open up blood feud.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I had to be Curtish.
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  Speaker 1: He must be stopped.
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  Speaker 2: It's like Michael J. Fox. He's Michael J. Fox. Because
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: when you go down to like register your name with
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: SAG to become an actor, you get your book, your
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  Speaker 2: first role, they go like okay, and they look your
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: name up in the database. Even back in the day
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  Speaker 2: pre computers. They would go, we already got a Michael
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  Speaker 2: Fox and you go what yeah, and they go, what's
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  Speaker 2: your middle initial on you?
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  Speaker 1: Jay?
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  Speaker 2: You're Michael J. Fox now, And so that's what happened
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  Speaker 2: to Michael Keaton. Michael Keaton was Michael Douglas, but there
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  Speaker 2: already was at Michael Douglas.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: So he just couldn't be Michael Douglas. And one of
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  Speaker 2: his favorite actresses was Diane Keaton. So he goes, I'll
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  Speaker 2: be Michael Keaton.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that. Yeah, Well did you know that
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  Speaker 1: Ulysses S. Grant his middle initials not really as.
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  Speaker 2: Ris Stephen Curtis Grantman.
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  Speaker 1: When he went to his dad had made him go military, sure,
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  Speaker 1: to the academy Military Academy. He didn't want to. When
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: he went to West Point right and they were like
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  Speaker 1: they just put s in there and he.
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  Speaker 2: No, he was like, that's not really because it's a
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  Speaker 2: lot too much.
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  Speaker 1: Well, but it's he became then U. S.
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  Speaker 2: Grant U. S.
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  Speaker 1: Grant, which is a big part of like the.
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  Speaker 2: Name, like it sounds very American, the most American.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that they used it like that for all
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  Speaker 1: their propaganda.
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  Speaker 2: Call yourself dollar Bill, you know what I'm saying, like
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna win the election.
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  Speaker 1: Here's my uncle uncle Sam.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild.
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  Speaker 1: And also you know where I had to see you
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  Speaker 1: in my name now for a lot of times because
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  Speaker 1: of the other John Driver John C. Driver, because they
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  Speaker 1: so some of my things will have John C. Driver
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  Speaker 1: now and some will have Johndre.
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  Speaker 2: I think you seem like a Keaton to me, John,
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: John C. John. That guy knows how to theologize.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: I do have a pseudonym idea. You know how to
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: make your pseudonym, right, you take your middle name.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: In the street.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: You grew up in your mom's maiden name. Okay, so
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: what would be your pseudonym if your middle.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Name My middle name is Terry and my its main
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: name was Rhymer, So be Terry Rhymer.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no one would ever know.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can write whatever you want. That's how I
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: check into hotels now, Terry Terry Rymer is it? No?
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, I just use my name because nobody cares. Listen,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna reveal my pseudonym. Oh well, because I
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: really may. I have some ideas to write some things
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: that maybe I maybe I don't want.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Is that a norm? Plume, a pen name plume.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't want recognition, or maybe I don't want.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: I don't I think if you didn't need attention, we
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: would not be doing this show. You've got to You've
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: got a real problem. But it's okay, John.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: And on that note, listen to my segment we call it.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: They talked about that. I gotta say my voice. I'm
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: leaning worship or easter.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Boddy, you're on the A team.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: This is like the halftime show. Okay, oswaldt Chambers.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Said, wasn't he? The hold on Oswald Chambers was the
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: my utmost for you'd get that book when you graduated
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: a lot. That was a big graduation in the nineties.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: My utmost for his highest Yeah. Yeah, big devotional guy.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, we have shown our ignorance of him,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: this Jesus. We have shown our ignorance of him in
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the very way we determined to serve him. We serve
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Jesus in a spirit that is not his. We hurt
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: him by our advocacy for him. We push his claims
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: in the spirit of the devil. Our words sound all right,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: but our spirit is that of an enemy.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: This really struck me. It seems so kind of prescient,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: and I think, you know, it's good to remember when
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: we feel panicked in the modern whatever our modern thing
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: is that the spirit of the enemy, and you know,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: the the temptation to try to use the name of
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Jesus to gain things we shouldn't gain.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Right as like a club, it's always been there, using
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: the Gospel as a club for people, right a club
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: to club somebody with not a club, like join a club.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: But like we're battering people with the gospel sometimes, I
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: think that's what he means, Like your tone is important,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: this idea that like, well it's the truth, it hurts,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: it's working.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Come on, man, Yeah, if there is no love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, face, inness,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: or self control in your version of the gospel that
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: you're that you're speaking audibly, that it cannot be the gospel.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: It cannot be even if you I'm not saying there
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: not a time to call something right or wrong. But
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: if you look at how Jesus did that with people,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: he always did it with love and joy and peace
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: and patience and kindness and goodness, even if he was rebuking.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: But the understand when he was rebuking it were. It
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: was the people doing this.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: It was usually the most religious people. Yeah, it was.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: It was the people doing this were who were using
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: the name of his father in a spirit that's not
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: his father's.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: But I thought the one to get me that really
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: got me was we hurt him by her advocacy for him.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: And I've said that to the church without using this quote, like,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: it would be better for us to stop if we're
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: going to speak in ways or about things towards people
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: that don't love people in the way that Jesus loves
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: them present tense, then it would be better for us
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: to stop claim.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: You were a Christian if you're going to act that
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: way in public.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Because they think that's how Jesus is, which is how
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Jesus set it up. He set it up as us
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: to be his body. They will know who you are
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: by your love right, which means they're going to know
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: who Jesus is because they recognize the love of Jesus
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: in you, and not just the love of Jesus from
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: you towards them, but the love of Jesus they see
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: between you and other believers. More specifically, so, the way
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: that we handle our conflict, the way that we lash
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: out or don't lash out, the way that we repent
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: when we hurt someone, because we still make those mistakes.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: But advocating for Jesus in manners that are contrary to
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: let's not just say the personality, but to the spirit
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: of Christ. And again the spirit of Christ. That list
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I just rattled off, Yeah, like that's not one of
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: those I think we hear something. It sounds just flowery
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: to us. And scripture like that is the deepest of
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: theology possible in terms of orthopraxy, like the way that
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: you live out the things you believe. What Paul is
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: saying is is, look, these are specific ways, he says,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: and against these there's no law. There's no law against these,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: meaning like the law the way of the law is
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: not it doesn't. Oh you can't you can't find something
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: legalistic to overcome these things with. You can't say yeah, yeah,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: But this topic is the issue of our day. The
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: issue of our day is always for the believer. Am
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I being transformed by Jesus into the manner of looking
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: more like him? How do what I know that I
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: look like him? Because I will bear the same fruit
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: he bears by the same spirit that is within him,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: that's within me, and that fruit will look like love, joy, peace, patience,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: and so like the time spent meditating on those things
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: or evaluating our lives, Like if you really evaluated your life, Johnny,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: as a believer, what do we look at? We look
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: at church attendants and prayer, and we look at giving
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: and all those things, and those are great. But basically
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: even first John talks about this, but if you do
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: all those things and you still hate a brother or sister,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you still hate another human who you have seen, then
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: there's a lie happening within you to say that you
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: love a God that you have not seen. Those two
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: things cannot go because the love of God cannot have
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: a terminal point in your life. And it's not the
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: love of God you're experiencing. That the love of God,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: by its transformational nature, must go through you to others.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: It is the way, not only he intends it, it's
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the way he commands it. That that is the number
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: one command. And I think there's a dis ordering of
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: our commandments where we go, Oh, I can skip as
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: long as okay, I'm doing these other things. It's like no, no, no,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: He's saying doesn't matter if you have those other things.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: It's just it's just a loud clanging gong. Now it's
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: just a symbol. It's just making noise. It's not doing
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: his things. So anyway, Johnny, I thought the way you
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: treat people now, someone should say something, and I thought
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Oswald really came.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: He did, he nailed it. And what's funny is I
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: play the loud clanging gong for the worship team and
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I did not get an invite to Easter too. I
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: didn't get the planning center. Well, well, planning center is
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: kind of inside baseball for people who don't on a
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: church staff. That's the email system that churches used to
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: plan their services. It's your app.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it tells youation.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: You get to check the box yes or no. Are
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: you willing to play guitar this Sunday? Can we can
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: we mark you down for these next three and you
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: go yes no, And then they go to triage. Is
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: to the next person if you say no. So, yeah,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I didn't get the plane. A loud clanging gong turns
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: out not absolutely necessary.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: You know, they should throw some relational stuff into that app,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: like swipe right. If you're willing to play.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I think people. Yeah, make it more of a game,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: make it feel more Yeah, if they church swipes right
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: on YouTube, is it left right? Like? I don't know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I really don't know.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: It's been a long time since it has been Yeah dated.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: It's been a long time. Thank the Lord for that.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Thank you Curry, Yes, for keeping me off the market.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: John thinking Curry, Dan, it's weird.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I could not handle this guy.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: You know, you're probably right, John. Let's do my single.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Let's start with old jokes. We call it joke about that. John.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: You know what really boils my blood. Faulty spacesuits. It's
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: a dark one. We're starting. I like it. I like it.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna we're going to orbit the Moon
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: for the first time in a while. We're sending man made,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: man made, man manned spaceships to the man made, man
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: man made man spaceships to the Moon, and we're going
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: to land on the Moon within the year. I think
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: we're going back to the move for the first time
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: since the seventies. I think. So. It's an interesting time
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: and NASA culture at large. But anyway, faulty spacesuits. John.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: At the end of his service, the Minister told his congregation.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Next week, I plan to preach about the sin of lying.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: To help you understand my sermon, I want you all
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: to read Mark seventeen. The following Sunday, as he prepares
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: to deliver his sermon, the minister asked for a show
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: of hands. He wanted to know how many had read
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Mark seventeen. Every hand went up. The mister smiled and said,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: seeing as Mark has only sixteen chapters, I will now
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: proceed with my sermon on the sin of lyne. You
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: knew it right away. John's like a sword drill you
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: like you seventeen? Good day? Like I'm using that. I'm
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: doing that next time, you bunch of liars.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: How many of you guys have read in the Book
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: of a Hezekaya?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Your second opinion? Second opinions? First condominiums. John. A guy
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: in court. A guy's in court facing murder charges. The
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: judge says, you're charged with murdering your wife with an axe.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: A guy at the back of the court yells you monster.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: The judge then says you're also charged with murdering your
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: mother in law with an axe. The guy at the
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: back of the court again yells you monster. The judge
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: addresses that got the back and says, sir, I realized
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: the charges are upsetting, but please refrain yourself. The man replies,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: you don't understand, judge. I lived next door to this
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: man for ten years, and every time I asked to
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: borrow an axe, he said he didn't have one. These
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: are some dark jokes today, It's okay, except for the
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: lying when that was just kind of tame. John upon
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: seeing his new store. On seeing upon opening his new store,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: sorry and reading these. Upon opening his new store, a
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: man received a bouquet of flowers. He became very dismayed
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: after reading the enclosed card, though our deepest sympathies. Suddenly
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: his phone running. Surprisingly, it was the florist calling to
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: apologize for having sent the wrong card with the flowers.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Oh it's all right, said the shopkeeper. I'm a businessman
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: and I understand how these things can happen. But asked
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: the floorst I think I accidentally sent your card to
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: a funeral party. I'm sure it's no big deal. What
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: did What did it say? Asked the storekeeper. Congratulations on
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: your new location, which is kind of app honestly sounds
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: a new location. Yeah, or I'll headed to a new
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: location upon death. That'll preach on it, John, boy, this
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: will this is a easter. John. Let's do my final
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: segment this week in history, we call it talk about
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Then John. This week I had a couple of April
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Fools moments because this is April Fools Day as we
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: record this. Are you a big April Fools prankster? No,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: you don't do it. Never posted a faulty. No, Laura
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: and I are pregnant again. I've never done the thing,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: and goes, oh, holy moly.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I don't have time.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I just don't.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: It's just you're never you do You never practical joke
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: to anybody except like maybe high school.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean you and I are kind of the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: same in this. You're always I'm always worried that the
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: person that practical joke will be more serious than I am.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: In the turn, they'll jump a level, go psycho on you. Yeah,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: you don't. You never know.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: You used to have a joke with that.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: What was you would say? You start off simple, like
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I put cheese was on your door handle, I shut
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: shaven on your mirror. You're like I toilet paper as
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: your law. They're like I poisoned your ferret. Yeah, I
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: don't have a ferret. John. This week nineteen ninety six today,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six, April first, As part of an April
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Fools Day joke, Taco Bell takes out ads in seven
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: leading newspapers announcing they had purchased the Liberty Bell to
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: quote reduced the country's debt and had renamed it the
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Taco Liberty Bell. In response to public concerns, White House
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Press Secretary Mike McCurry stated that the federal government was
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: also quote selling the Lincoln Memorial to Ford Motor Company
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: and renaming it the Lincoln Mercury Memorial. The prank was
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: successful in that it only cost the US three hundred
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars, but generated a sales increase exceeding one million
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: dollars for the first two days in April, along with
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: a large amount of free publicity. It's seeing the US
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: wow cost the US that I'm think. I'm thinking that
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: means Taco Bell was successful in doing it. Okay, so
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I'll say, what what the US spending money too? Yeah,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: that's weird. I think this means because this is a
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: RUSS I get these out the internet, off the web,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: and so I'm sure. This means that Taco Bell spent
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: three hundred grand but made a million dollars in sales.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: What do we think that I remember the Taco Liberty Bell.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I remember it being a thing in the newspaper ninety six,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: the Taco Liberty Bell. Yeah, and people are like, come
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: on real, walk them on.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: You know, they stopped making Mexi melks. That's the best
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: thing that happened, you know what. I love the chilito,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the chili cheese burrito.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Gosh, man, you could. You needed to be near
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: a bathroom, but man, that was good. The Mexi melt
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I'm with you, Mexi mount was whyse never come back?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: They do all these like eighty cents.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: We're bringing them back, your favorites over the decades, and
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: then never bring back Mexi melts.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Guys do better.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you're listening, algorithm, yeah, someone tell Taco Bell.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: So we the other night, Curry goes, I go, where
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: do you want to go to dinner? And she goes,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I just kind of want something, and she goes, I'm
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: afraid to say it. I go what she goes, I
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: want Taco Bell. We went to Taco Bell and sat down. Hey,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: we ate in a taco bell.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Listen, it's really good. I hate it is really good.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: It's a little more expensive than it ever has been,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: so you can't just eat like five pounds of food
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: for twelve dollars. It was like it wasn't It was
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: more expensive, but not as expensive as like a sit
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: down place would have been a real sit down.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Do you get a Mexican pizza?
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: No?
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Do you get a nachos belgrande?
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I got a ksadach in case of dia and a
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: hard shell taco. Wow, I'm not I don't. I don't
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: like the fancies fan I didn't have. I didn't have
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: a crunch wrap chance to go and do something special.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I know I do like a Mexican pizza every now
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: and again. And those went away for a while too,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: and they brought him back popular demand. Maybe if we
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: if we get a petition together, Mexi mount Guy's Mexi.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: You never had one. You don't know. It's unbelievable.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: It was very good. It was very good. John This Week,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six. Apple Computer is founded by Steve Jobs,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Steve Wozniak, and Ronald Wayne. You don't hear about Ronald
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Wayne a lot. I wonder what happened with them. I'm
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: sure an Apple, an Apple nerd is going to like
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: try to email the show and tell us what happened,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: because you're about Waz and you hear he was kind
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: of the brains and Steve Jobs was like he had
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: the public facing persona and the drive right, you know,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: and but who's wrong Wayne? What happened to him? Their
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: first product? This is why it makes the list. Their
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: first product was named the Apple one Personal Computer Kid,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: and it's sold for a price of six hundred and
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: sixty six dollars and sixty six cents. Now, listen, John, Wow,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: you already live in a world at this time in
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six where people are like, yeah, the mark
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: of the Beast. It was the kind of the seeds
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: of the Satanic panic were starting. Yeah, and you're gonna
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: sell a computer which people think is going to usher
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: in the Antichrist. Probably, let's sell it for six hundred
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: and sixty six dollars and sixty six cents. What are
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: you crazy?
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I technically you're adding two more sixes, but.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: That makes it all the worse.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe I think it I don't know
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: it's anyway.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: They'll never be they'll never go anywhere. No, obviously that
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Apple computer from the beginning, that's not great. John This Week,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: nineteen fifty seven. The spaghetti tree hoax occurred nineteen fifty seven.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: The BBC aired as an April Fool's quote news story
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: about the spaghetti harvest in Switzerland. It purported to show
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: spaghetti being harvested from trees and laid out to dry as,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: and claimed that spaghetti trees had been specially bred in
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Switzerland to produce such uniform length spaghetti strands. After the broadcast,
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  Speaker 2: hundreds of people called in to find out how they
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  Speaker 2: too could obtain their own spaghetti trees. To make it
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: sound more authoritative, the voiceover was done by respected broadcaster
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  Speaker 2: Richard Dimpledby Dimplebee, the idea was the brainchild of panoramic
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: cameramen Charles D. Yeager, who came up with the idea
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: for the hoax after remembering how teachers at his school
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: teased classmates for being so stupid that if they were
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: told spaghetti grow on trees, they would believe it. No,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: listen these teachers, Yeah, it's really that's not very Just
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: do a better job. Let me tell you why you're stupid.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: You're so stupid, young person. I'm charged with your education.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: But it is interesting to BBC. You know these English
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: people are you know Britain. They're supposed to be like
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: the New Americans with you, and they fell for this.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: They were calling in the station. How do I get
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: my very own? Sorry?
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I remember my.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Wife telling me that she had a girl in her class.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Once asked if there were cheese trees? So was this
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: senior year? Yeah? This was It was old. It was
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: old enough that people turned around and stared, Yeah, where
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: does cheese come from? Cheese cheese trees? John. Finally, the
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  Speaker 2: first portable cell phone call occurred this week, nineteen seventy three.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: The first portable cell phone call is made, and this
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: is why it makes the list. I love it. General
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: manager of Motorola's Communications system division called. Do you want
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: to guess who he called? Because it had to be
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: somebody else with a portable cell phone? Right? Or maybe
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I guess you could call a landline. I guess you'd
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: call Aline. But who would you call? If you had
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: disinvented something that you had a feeling was going to
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: change the world, you'd probably call your mom. You're not
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: gonna believe this, right, or you call my wife. Call
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: your wife. They called their arrival at AT and T's
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Bell Labs from the streets of New York City.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: So they basically call, you know, they're like, it's working,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: you're going down. They to taunt them.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Wowm that cool, that's cool.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: That's some hater aid right there. I don't know, you
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: don't like that because when you know, Alexander Graham Bell
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: was like what half god rot, you know, it was
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: a big like hmm yeah, and you can get your
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: own for six hundred and sixty six. No. He They
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: called their rival they called the old which that's kind
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: of an old that's an old school hater rut there.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Montreolla is onlyer around, right, I don't They probably have
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: been absorbed and they still exist in some other conglomerate form.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like AT and T still is that's true?
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Who's the last one standing?
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Who had the last still?
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Could maybe Motorola maybe they got maybe they turned into
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Horizon or something.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Motorola was absorbed by somebody and then
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: they were absorbed and absorbed.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: And what was the name of Horizon before his Hoverizon.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: It was a next till singular?
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Oh singular?
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Was it?
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We don't have any information. We'll look
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: it up and we'll tell you next week. On John,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: How would you send a note to the show and
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: correct all of our many many errors.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Just send an email to Hello talk about that podcast
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• 33:10
  Speaker 2: If you go to talk about that podcast dot com, John,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: you can find so many of our archived episodes, over
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: four hundred episodes to listen to. Maybe you're on your
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: spring break trip, maybe you're headed out for summer vacation soon.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: What a better way than to just you know, pass
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: the time. Yeah, because otherwise you're gonna stick your hand
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: out the window and do one of those things.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to be doing that'll do that.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: It's a waste of your energy. Pull out your device.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh put in sound canceling headphones. You can't
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: even hear the kids scream in the backs?
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Can more?
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Maybe they're asking for food,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: but they have to go to the bathroom. But you're
• 33:43
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• 33:46
  Speaker 2: It is safe.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not advocating.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, come on, but yeah, I have a have a
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: listen and we appreciate our fine listeners and it means
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: a lot to us. John, I am on tour, yeah
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: a lot this year. Yeah, And I wanted to give
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: a few of my tour dates if I could. I mean,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: it's weird to kind of you know, ah wow it
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: for yourself. But the Live and Laughing Tour rolls on
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: April twenty third, Thursday, pri twenty third, Magnolia, Arkansas. That's
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: with my buddy Adam Bush, who helps produce this show actually,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: and Christian McCartney, who's like a big viral. I mean,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: he has six million TikTok followers. This guy's great. He's
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: young too, so he brings it young energy, crackling energy
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: to the show that it desperately needs. Come see us
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: in Magnolia, Arkansas, April twenty third. April twenty fourth, Cleburne, Texas.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: That's a suburb of Fort Worth, I believe, so Dallas
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Fort Worth area, Come on out, Dallas people. Crosby, Texas,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: which is a suburb of Houston. It's north of Houston.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: That's April twenty fifth. And then Jonesboro, Arkansas, Sunday, April
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: twenty sixth. I'm also gonna be in West Bend, Wisconsin
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: April eleventh, Yes, April eleventh, So come see me there
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: West Bend at the Bend Theater. That's coming up very
• 35:01
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• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's exciting, it's exciting times.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: A lot going on.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: People are loving the show. We're hearing great things.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: People like the show. And people at my show talk
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: about this show. Yeah, they go, hey, we love this show.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Where's John I know he's in the backpack, he's Yeah,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: you did need to come out. You said you were
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: gonna come on one of the bus tour runs, and
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I think you're running that time.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I think it's the fall legg we're out of travel sea.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: They cancel these fall dates. Oh no, that'll be the
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: worst you would have missed out. I don't know. It
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: was a volleyball. I hope you're happy. I'm not. That's good.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: It makes me happy there. I want you to be
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: a little churning. Yeah, that's fine.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Well, it was a fun day, guys. Thanks for all
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: the time you gave us. Let's do it again next week.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: You're on talk about that.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: That's the.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Butt, pas a past that
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  Speaker 1: Does not