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#102 - Nate Palmer & Peter Ho - Living a Healthier Life · The Chris and Mike Show

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  We'll talk about equipment at some point.
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  There you. Go nature, I can see that.
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  Yeah, I still owe Peter a copy of this.
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  I'll get it to you. Oh yeah.
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  That's still always the best way to start the show.
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  This is the Chris and Mike show on Chris.
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  He's Mike over there. We got Nate Palmer, the
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  $1,000,000 body. And then we have health and
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  Wellness coach Peter Ho. And it's a landmark occasion.
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  If you're not realizing this, boys and girls, number one, this
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  is our 100th episode and #2 it's the first time we've had two
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  guests on at the same time. Yeah, this is awesome.
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  This is really cool, so I'm excited.
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  What? Did you mean when you said that
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  me and Peter had to fight before this episode?
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  Why did you say that? It was.
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  It was a royal. Rumble, you know, could you?
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  Get an instigator. You're, you're like you're like
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  you're, you're what did I, I explained this to Mike.
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  You're like the fitness. I don't want to say guru, 'cause
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  I put you in a box, but you're, you're like a very dialed in
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  focus fitness guy, 'cause you from when you're on our show
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  before you've been there, done that.
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  You've failed so many times, but those failures have led to
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  successful ventures and things like you.
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  You talked about writing books, but nobody wanted the book you
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  wrote, you know, so you have all these stepping stones you've
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  come across to be the the $1,000,000 body trainer that you
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  are. And then we have, we have Peter
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  Ho, who's who's. I don't know how long you've
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  been in the health and fitness, but it's kind of relatively new
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  thing, right? I've been, I've been in it for
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  five years. OK, so five years.
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  Gotcha. Gotcha.
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  But so it's just it's just one of those things that that when I
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  when I asked Nate, I said, hey, dude, is it OK if Peter Ho, the
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  health and illness coach, comes on the show?
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  He's like, yeah, can I pick a fight?
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  Peter, did he just lightly roast both of us?
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  Was he just like these? Yeah, like it was not like a
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  real underhanded compliment. Did you get that too?
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  What? Are you talking?
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  About that. You guys are awesome.
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  That's why you're here, man. And MM had technical
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  difficulties when Nate was on the first time.
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  So this is kind of cool, Nate, that now Mike can actually
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  engage in conversation and not just sit there and all of a
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  sudden go out, go out, go out with, you know, Internet.
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  And just so people know, I'm in Arizona, Nate's in Arizona,
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  Mike's in Illinois and Peter Hose in Socal, right?
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  So that's that's the beautiful thing about.
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  That we have almost stretched the entire country.
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  We have, we have, we have. I see you stepping back there,
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  Nate. So go ahead.
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  We're going to talk about it, man.
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  So oh, oh, Peter. So we did the we did the we're
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  still doing the, the no, the no bread, no bad starch, the
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  crackers, tortillas, chips. Ironically enough, this is going
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  to trip you out probably to Nate.
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  I talked to Mike about it. So I had the degenerating
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  vertebrae in my neck and I'm and and 990.
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  I don't know. Since I got off my boot, I've
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  always been in pain like this, just constant dull, fuck you
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  pain. Since I stopped the bread and
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  the bad starch, the crackers and stuff, I legit haven't had no
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  pain at all. I've had a couple little
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  episodes where it was like it was tingling, but like a
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  legitimate there's been no neck pain.
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  That's amazing, right? I'm not super surprised, but
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  honestly, that's incredible and I'm so excited for you.
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  Plus, I don't want to, I don't want to say this like up front
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  and like, you know, you know, inflate your ego.
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  But your arms are looking really good too.
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  So holy. Shit, I work out.
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  I work out, you know I. Can see it and then like you're
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  just like I like I feel like in the last month or so, your arms
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  love looked a lot bigger because you dropped fat.
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  A lot of people don't realize like you if you drop fat, you
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  actually guys will ask you like how what are you doing?
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  Did you gain some size? Because you just revealed the
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  muscle underneath, right? No, I just stopped.
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  Eating. Can you just stay flexing the
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  whole episode? That'd.
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  Be cool. So the other, the other thing we
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  did, the other thing we did was, was sugar.
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  So so Nikki was always putting sugar in her tea.
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  Let's switch it up and so we could take our shirts off and a
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  flex off Nate, don't tell me what's a good time NATO beat me,
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  Nate score is fucking amazing. But we also stopped sugar.
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  So no, I wasn't somebody that put sugar in coffee.
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  I've always put put honey in my honey in my coffee, but I have
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  put soy milk and things like that.
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  So I stopped that completely. So did Nikki and I stopped
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  having my Oreos every night. So, so since the Sunday after
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  you were on, we quartered you, Peter, we've done no bread and
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  no like bullshit sugar as far as adding sugar, you can't, you
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  know, sugars and shit, you eat right?
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  And we also tried to pay attention more to the whole food
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  side of life. So instead of I stopped rice
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  too, by the way, which was really fucking hard, Replaced
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  that with quinoa and then any starches at dinner would have
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  been sweet potatoes or regular potatoes.
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  Stopped using all the oils. We got the avocado oil I
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  actually boiled This is pretty cool.
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  I boiled some potatoes, OK potatoes from the motherland.
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  I boiled the potatoes, I sliced them up into wedges and then I
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  put them on, did the pan with the avocado oil and just crisp
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  them up like. A little home fry action.
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  Oh dude, you ever do those good? Roasted potatoes in the oven are
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  bomb. OK, we'll try those.
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  There was. That's so good.
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  Also, I got a hot take for you. Yeah, Quinoa's bullshit.
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  Hot take for you. Quinoa's bullshit.
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  And Tupac's not even on the on the same level as big as
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  Notorious BIG. Hot takes, hot takes right off
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  the bat. I don't like quinoa because look
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  at this because you ate quinoa win last night.
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  I didn't eat it last night. We've just used it.
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  I we've eaten it. We've eaten it off and on for
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  the last couple weeks. Whenever, whenever I would make
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  my burritos for lunch. Right.
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  So I replace my tortillas with egg wraps, per Peter.
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  Amazing. Fucking solid Peter.
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  It it's legit. There you go.
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  Put them in what brand you. Use.
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  That's solid. Yeah, I don't know what brand it
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  is, but I know it's it's it's just egg white basically in a
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  tortilla. So if you don't know that people
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  egg wrap, Mike's sitting here like, what the fuck do you guys
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  talking about? I eat burritos every day.
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  Oh yeah, wow, just like just drowning out the roast.
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  OK, I'm glad because Peter and I got it early.
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  Now Mike can get it, but here's here's what you look at quinoa.
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  You eat quinoa at night time. Tomorrow morning you see quinoa
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  in the toilet like it didn't digest.
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  That's got a hard shell on it. You know, it's like corn.
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  I'm not a huge fan of quinoa for that reason.
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  Plus some people who have like the gastrointestinal, like a the
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  like it where it can actually get caught up in your small
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  intestine, large intestine like yes, you.
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  Mean or yeah, irritable bowel or whatever.
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  Yeah, it's something it's it's called, it's some.
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  There's a specific word. I'm I'm blanking on it right
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  now. But but I like rice.
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  I think rice is fine. Brown rice is fine, white rice
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  is fine. There's no difference between
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  the two really. And yeah, I feel like it's a
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  very innocuous carb. What do you have to say about
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  that, Peter? Yeah, rebuttal, rebuttal.
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  It's. Still a bad car.
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  I mean, it depends on how, how it processes your body.
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  Because I feel like everyone's gastro test is it's different,
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  you know, and I feel like for for Chris, obviously it's
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  working for him if he's thinking all bad starch and everything is
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  he feels really good about it. But I feel like everyone's body
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  is very different when it comes to, you know, processing those
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  foods and digesting those foods. The other weird thing is I'm 55.
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  That is weird. Yeah.
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  Now thanks for acknowledging that we actually all got
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  together to talk about it. You.
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  Know you're welcome. I'm Chris, I'm 55.
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  I have a problem. So but the but what I'm what
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  I've noticed what I've he does like burritos.
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  What I've noticed is I don't I'm not tired like like right.
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  So so I legit I would nap. I would even if it was just 20
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  minute nap every day. I would just I would take 20
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  minute nap, sometimes 45 minute nap, no naps since since I did
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  the whole no starch, no bread, no bad.
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  And I'm and when I talked about before was just so people
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  understand bread Ritz's Triscuits and saltines were and
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  tortillas were everyday diet. That was everyday.
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  I'd have the the tortilla for lunch.
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  I would have that medley of crackers for an afternoon snack.
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  I'd have what? You're just, you're just like
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  eating saltine crackers. I would, I would eat.
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  Yeah, I would just. That's unhinged behavior, bro.
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  You're eating saltine crackers. You just have like a gallon of
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  water there. You're just punishing yourself.
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  What's going on? Are you OK?
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  I think twice if Nikki's hitting you.
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  No, no peanut butter. I would just just, I would take
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  legit, I would take probably 3 or 4 of each of those crackers,
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  put them in a baggie. So then when I at the office
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  Monday, Wednesdays, that's part of my my snack.
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  You're like, oh, let me let me pick the four worst crackers and
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  demand. Right.
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  But I didn't know. I didn't know they were bad.
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  Now I do. Now I'm kind of.
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  Fucking no. I'm saying they taste bad.
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  I'm saying they're, they're not. There's nothing redeeming about
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  them. Well, I don't know.
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  I. Like it's like, I just hate
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  having all this moisture in my mouth.
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  What can I do to get rid of that?
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  Well, your wife's. Got the water?
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  You know, you you, you know. Just go grab your wife man
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  honey. Honey, honey spit in my mouth.
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  What? What are we talking about?
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  I was more referencing going downtown but OK but I'm bump.
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  Everyone has every gastrointestinal tract we
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  already established. Hey, a healthy sex life leads to
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  a healthy life. Like it it it it it it.
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  It makes you live longer it lives, gives you less stress,
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  less anxiety. So I'm a big proponent and
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  having regular sex so that you guys that are not married down
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  here go out, find some hookers, get some natural blow, OK, not
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  the bad stuff, get the good. Stuff the organic the organic
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  blow only from Columbia and Peru.
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  And have fun man, maybe. The health advice you didn't
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  know you needed Chris sex question.
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  Are you like off the cuff impromptu like like ROM com
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  style sex guy or are you like, hey, on Wednesday nights we have
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  sex like do you have it planned in?
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  We are very active in our 30 plus years together, probably
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  three to five times a week. Once summer starts, it can end
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  up about four or five. So it just depends.
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  You know, there's, there's days where I'll just shoot her a
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  text. Hey, explain something and then
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  you know. Eggplant emoji, right?
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  Got it. Right.
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  So, so there's, there's, there's random, there's planned,
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  there's, you know, it's that's. Everything in between.
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  It's the one, it's the, I don't know, this is all about you.
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  This is one of the things I think that makes the mayor
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  successful. Like you still, you still love
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  your spouse, but you're also still in love with your spouse
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  and you still find your spouse sexually attractive.
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  So you still have that connection.
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  And and people don't believe me when I say it, but it's.
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  Well said. Separate comforters, OK, I don't
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  touch the laundry. And we make sure that we are
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  both satisfied when we're naked, meaning that you don't, you know
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  the stereotype. Oh, you know, the guy's 30
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  seconds later and the wife's sitting there holding her hands
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  like Peg and Bundy, right? Peg and Al Bundy, right?
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  Even though that in most of America, that's not my America.
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  Like we, we make sure that you know.
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  All she's taken care of. My kids are, my kids are
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  knocking. She comes first.
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  That's right. She does, absolutely.
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  Yeah. OK, The woman has to come first.
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  All right, OK. So I've been married 14 years.
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  OK, I don't know about you. Congratulations.
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  I don't know about you, but I'm 3030 a 30 year, like a 30 year
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  marriage is incredible. Thank you SO.
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  Congratulations on that. What tips would you have for us
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  besides besides five times a week of sex?
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  Which sounds well, again, it's it's separate comforters.
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  Separate comforters because. You're the only person I've ever
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  heard who say that. And I love, I love this.
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  I always. Do the same thing the first time
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  you said it. Yeah, separate comforters
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  number. One, we've been doing this for
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  years and it's amazing. Right, because then you have
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  your own cocoon that you can because I don't, I don't like I
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  don't sleep with anything on. So when I have the comforter,
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  it's it's because I sleep hot. I'm a hot sleeper.
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  Prove it, Send pics right? Nikki Nikki's always cold.
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  So it works. It's always just working.
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  That's been that way. I mean, God, I can't even
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  remember us having one comforter ever.
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  Maybe the first couple weeks. And that's like, yeah, this
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  doesn't work. She does the laundry, so I do
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  the dishes. Like legit, that's kind of how
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  it's been. If if, if you know, whoever
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  makes dinner, the other person cleans up dinner.
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  But then I'll run the dishwasher when it's full night, empty
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  dishwasher when it's full because, you know, that's I do
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  all the outside landscape stuff. She doesn't, she kind of
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  maintains the everything inside except for my little space,
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  which is here never go to bed angry, OK.
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  And then we just, we find things to do together.
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  Like once my first neck surgery was done at 14 and I was cleared
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  in 15, we started running. I started running with her.
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  And so we've kind of, I mean, we probably did 6070 half marathons
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  since 2015. And that started with probably,
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  I don't know, 40 or 55K10 KS and, and a couple 15 KS start in
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  the mix. So, and now we work out together
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  at EOS and, and you know, I'm training her and kind, you know
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  what I mean? So it's just you find, you find
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  common things to do together, but then you also have to have
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  your own space, right? You have to, you know, she does
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  her thing with her job. I do my thing with my job and so
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  that we're not on top of each other all the time, but we truly
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  because we have no really outside family interference.
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  It's just us and our kids. And now, now Skyler's husband,
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  Michael and, and you know what I mean, it's just our little group
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  and, and we're just really tight and got each other's back and.
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  I think that right there, you know, is a key that a lot of
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  people listening to this would say.
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  That's huge. Which part?
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  That got each other's back Because that's what's done to
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  me, yeah. No, the one before that.
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  They have no outside influence. They.
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  Oh yeah. They don't have any in laws like
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  breathing down their necks. And why are you doing this with
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  the kids? Why are you doing that with the
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  kids? You know we taught you better
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  than that. Yeah.
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  Yeah, but I love also like we got each other's backs and I
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  feel like if you can create a family culture that's like we're
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  on the same team, we all are in it with each other, I think
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  that's amazing. And that's something that I'm
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  aspiring to. I have AI, have a like a 7 year
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  old and a four year old now. And I keep reinforcing like,
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  hey, this is the Palmer team, this is how Palmer's act, This
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  is what we do. That's good.
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  So. Yeah, yeah.
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  And see, now that I have, I have, I've had little man, which
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  is my my oldest grandson, he just turned he was he's 5 1/2
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  just graduated preschool Wednesday, but I've had him
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  every day since he's 3 weeks old, like Monday through Friday.
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  And I still that's like our thing.
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  So that helps because then you have he's different with me than
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  he is with with Skyler, obviously, because I'm pop up
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  and she's mom, right. But the discipline goes both
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  ways, which is kind of cool. So I'll put him in check and
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  I'll let her know I put him in check.
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  So she knows and he's at that age now.
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  He's kind of wrapping his head around and understanding it and
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  then he remembers things, which is kind of cool because you see
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  you processes it before he does something now.
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  But it's cool, cool because it truly can take a village, you
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  know, to raise a child And and our village is just this tight
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  knit village, which is kind of cool.
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  It's cool. What about you?
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  What are your what are your, what do you feel is successful
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  to have have have, you know strong?
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  I mean 14 years is no is no laughing matter either in this
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  day and age. The biggest thing for me is
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  communications and setting clear expectations.
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  I think that like, so we got married in 2011 and 2012, we
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  moved to Seattle and we didn't know anyone there.
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  So all my family is here, all her family is here.
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  And I just felt like if we didn't leave, we were going to
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  end up like 10 years down the road being like, oh, we're
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  roommates because you go do your thing with your family and your
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  friends and your work. And I do my thing and like, and
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  then we kind of just ships in the night.
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  That's cool. So we literally like uprooted
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  our life, sold all of our stuff, quit our jobs and moved out to
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  Seattle without knowing anyone. And we had to really rely on
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  each other. And what I, what it kind of we
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  learned in that process was that if we had like, if we did not
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  set clear expectations, I'm going to be home around this
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  time. This is my plans for Saturday.
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  There's a lot of like disappointment and unmet
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  expectations, which is kind of like just like led to a little
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  bit of conflict. And so it, it really helped us
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  dial in our communication strategies and how we speak to
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  each other. That's cool.
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  And I feel like since then we have not really ever had a
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  fight. We talk things out, we may argue
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  a little bit, but like the, even the arguments are respectful and
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  like trying to see each other's point of view because it's like
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  there's this level of trust built up that it's like, I know
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  this person is never going to be malicious.
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  I know they always want what's best for me.
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  And, and for that reason, I can hear them out.
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  Whatever, even if they're what they're saying sounds crazy to
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  me. And I think that's, that's one
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  of my favorite things. And then I just love laughing
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  with my wife. We crack up.
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  We're always like laughing about something, laughing at our kids,
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  laughing at whatever's going on. And I think that like, you know,
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  just being able to have those moments where we're just like
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  fully joyful, living in the moment together is like creates
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  a really strong foundation. Yeah, one thing you one thing
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  that stood out that you talked about right there was you are
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  your arguments. Believe it or not, Nikki and I
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  don't argue like since once I even when I was drinking, we
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  never really argued. It came to a head towards the
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  last the last couple weeks of it and there was a blow up, which
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  was rare for us, which is what led me to stop.
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  So we do have discussions, but legit like Mike and I have
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  talked about this before where you'll see this perfect life on
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  Facebook and social media, right?
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  Like all this couple, Oh, everything's you know, you've
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  probably seen it too, Peter, like everybody's oh, look at our
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  perfect life, you know, love, love, love, love, love.
• 17:43
  And then they're then they're dark for like a week and then
• 17:44
  all of a sudden, fuck you world like he's a piece of shit.
• 17:49
  I can't believe. And it's all of a sudden this
• 17:51
  spiraling downward, just chaos because everything they were,
• 17:55
  they were portraying was just fake and, and fairy tale.
• 17:58
  And that's just not life. Life is not fairy tale.
• 18:02
  It's it's struggles and it's, it's speed bumps.
• 18:06
  And you know, not every day is planned, not every day is
• 18:09
  smooth. You know, it's just there's so
• 18:10
  many things. And I think so many couples let
• 18:12
  that kind of beat them down. Thinking that it should be like
• 18:17
  again, it's not that expectations it should be it's
• 18:19
  Prince Charming and it's not therefore am I did I failed, I
• 18:23
  choose the wrong partner, not understanding that they have to
• 18:25
  like actually work on their. Relationship People got to work.
• 18:27
  Right. And get back to get like get,
• 18:29
  get centered. Like, you know, those times when
• 18:31
  you're like, we're on the different pages, we're just not
• 18:33
  seeing eye to eye reconnect and like sometimes you got to eat a
• 18:37
  shit sandwich to get there. You know what?
• 18:39
  I mean, and I think the benefit for Nikki and I, we started out
• 18:42
  so young. We were 20 and 25.
• 18:44
  We were, we were I met her on her 20th birthday and and we
• 18:48
  both came from just fractured homes.
• 18:51
  So we both really were just accustomed to kind of fending
• 18:55
  for ourselves. And we were just opposite enough
• 18:58
  that it worked and that, you know, that's the cool thing
• 19:01
  about us. It just worked because of that
• 19:04
  that found. And the name was Shotgun
• 19:05
  Wedding. So yeah, everything was stacked
• 19:07
  against us for being successful. Like, there's no way.
• 19:10
  And here we are 30 years later with only one glitch really,
• 19:12
  which was when I when I stopped drinking, we kind of parted ways
• 19:16
  for about 3 months because I couldn't be talked to his drunk
• 19:20
  Chris. So it took her a while to
• 19:21
  understand that OK, sober Chris is cool.
• 19:23
  Sober Chris I can communicate with.
• 19:25
  OK, then you know, life's going to go on as it was because of my
• 19:28
  change that I made and I stuck with it.
• 19:29
  I mean as I just passed 20 years in February.
• 19:32
  You're a monster. You're, you are like so
• 19:35
  consistent, Chris. There's so many things that
• 19:37
  you've said in your life that like, Dang, she's showing the,
• 19:40
  he's showing the coins right now.
• 19:41
  Yeah, So this is this is relations, this is thank you.
• 19:43
  This is like this is what I gave Nikki after the first year.
• 19:46
  So the top of it, it says a promise made.
• 19:48
  The bottom is a promise kept. And it has each, each, each
• 19:51
  coin, the 24 months, I mean, the 24 hours, the 30 days, the the
• 19:58
  two months, three months, six months and a year.
• 20:00
  I'm sorry, nine months because then I gave, I gave her this and
• 20:04
  then she got the year coin. That's awesome.
• 20:07
  Yeah. Thank you.
• 20:07
  In the middle of it's just a serenity prayer that you say at
• 20:10
  a a so and that's kind of the basis of what Mike and I started
• 20:14
  this thing, four of us just helping people recover and, you
• 20:16
  know, just more life stuff. So, Peter and Mike, you've been
• 20:20
  very quiet. You guys just stole the show
• 20:24
  you. Know yeah, we all can't talk
• 20:26
  over the top of each other. There's four of us.
• 20:28
  Let's let's dive into the whole, you know, the whole supplement
• 20:32
  stuff, you know, and, and just the health and Wellness side of
• 20:34
  life because Nate's got a really good take on stuff.
• 20:37
  Obviously, Peter, you got a great take on stuff I've done.
• 20:40
  And just to be fair, I did Nate's thing.
• 20:41
  Nate's one of Nate's thing that stood out to me on the 1st show
• 20:44
  he and I did because Mike had his difficulties was the
• 20:47
  fasting. So Nikki and I did two weeks of
• 20:48
  fasting this Sunday through Monday, which Peter, I, I, I
• 20:52
  alluded to that, 'cause we started that night and then, you
• 20:55
  know, we did it to the following night and that worked great.
• 20:57
  I, we both saw kind of results. The doing your thing with the,
• 21:03
  the no bad starches and breads and things like that.
• 21:04
  I've seen a little bit of of like Nate said, little leanness,
• 21:08
  but down, down on that little, you know, the I don't really
• 21:13
  have fat, but you know the little.
• 21:15
  What do you. It's not love handles.
• 21:16
  I don't only have love handles. Pooch.
• 21:18
  Yeah. Just a tiny little pooch that's
• 21:19
  gone down from not eating bread and.
• 21:21
  Sugars, right? That's always the hardest plane
• 21:23
  to get rid of too, yeah. It's so difficult, so, so
• 21:26
  difficult. And then not that it's not that
• 21:27
  it's like it was ever boomed, but it's just, you know, you can
• 21:30
  look down and say, oh, you know, I have a tattoo in a certain
• 21:32
  spot. If I look down I can see it.
• 21:35
  Really. Let's see.
• 21:38
  But on camera. The ratings went.
• 21:43
  Through the ratings went through the roof we're.
• 21:47
  Spiking in Taiwan right now it's.
• 21:48
  We are. We are man.
• 21:53
  So go ahead you 2 talk about your health and Wellness stuff.
• 21:56
  Peter, I'd love to hear a little bit about like kind of your
• 21:59
  take, your maybe your philosophy on fitness, nutrition, if you
• 22:02
  had like any sort of like steps that you follow or things that
• 22:04
  you put people through or what's really worked well for you, kind
• 22:07
  of like where, where are you at? You know, I, I believe in taking
• 22:10
  the right supplements. I feel like, you know, I said
• 22:12
  supplement world is very, I would say the biggest scam in
• 22:15
  the world just because we don't really know what's in it due to
• 22:19
  the fact of like, hey, there's, there's not that much studies on
• 22:21
  each supplement. There's no, we don't know really
• 22:24
  what's inside it, you know, and that's how I got into what I do
• 22:28
  now is to help people balance hormones.
• 22:30
  I focus on really hormone balancing and understanding
• 22:32
  people's chemical functions in their body.
• 22:36
  What I told cribs was like, I just help people get rid of the
• 22:38
  bad starches, the bad sugars, and make sure that the body
• 22:42
  doesn't get inflamed and bloated.
• 22:43
  So that's my take usually on the nutrition side of it and just
• 22:46
  focus. Like I really don't exercise.
• 22:48
  I'll be honest, Nate, I don't exercise.
• 22:50
  I just drink my water, take my drops and lose weight and eat
• 22:55
  right. That's what it is.
• 22:56
  Talk, talk a little bit about like the the hormonal side of
• 23:00
  things as it relates to starches.
• 23:02
  What do you notice? What's the what does the science
• 23:05
  show us? Like why, why cut those out?
• 23:08
  And what does that do for for us from a like a hormonal
• 23:10
  perspective outside of even just weight loss?
• 23:12
  Yeah, I mean in terms of you know, how it affects the the
• 23:15
  hormones is actually it causes the hormones to be very
• 23:17
  imbalanced especially when it comes to tiredness, lack of
• 23:20
  sleep, hard time sleeping, having a break, good night's
• 23:23
  sleep. And also because of the
• 23:26
  inflammation it has, it makes the body heart to more recover,
• 23:30
  especially in throughout injuries that you may have.
• 23:34
  I feel like the bad starches really affect the recovery rate
• 23:38
  in in terms of that. When you say bad starches, I
• 23:41
  don't like using bad and good a lot of a lot of times.
• 23:44
  Can you like, can you unpack that a little?
• 23:46
  Bit yeah, so let me be up in terms of my bad starches.
• 23:50
  It's processed food, processed starches, rice, noodles,
• 23:54
  tortillas. Rice is processed.
• 23:55
  I mean, it's barely processed. I feel like it's processed
• 23:58
  enough where like you're not really getting the whole figure
• 24:01
  of it in terms of the whole food of it.
• 24:04
  That's just, that's just in my take.
• 24:05
  Like I've noticed, like if I eat rice and noodles, like my body's
• 24:08
  inflamed to like the Max and I look like an Oompa Loompa.
• 24:11
  Or do you notice it in the mirror?
• 24:14
  Yeah, I look in the mirror, I mean.
• 24:15
  Even with rice, do you have a Do you have a grass allergy?
• 24:17
  I I don't actually, I don't have the only allergies I have is
• 24:20
  dust, but I've noticed that every time I eat like these
• 24:23
  processed, you know, carbs or starches, but my face just gets
• 24:27
  bloated. See, I've noticed, I noticed
• 24:30
  that with, with stopping starches and breads, all my
• 24:34
  crackers and stuff that my the, the face kind of thinned out
• 24:37
  right, Just not massively. But you can tell.
• 24:41
  I can tell looking in the mirror after a week like oh go.
• 24:44
  Ahead, that was one of the things we talked about the first
• 24:46
  time that caught my ear when we were talking just breads and
• 24:50
  starches and grains in general, as I've heard that over and over
• 24:54
  and not just from Peter, I mean from people who have been in the
• 24:58
  business forever, that that causes more inflammation than
• 25:02
  any other thing you're putting in your body.
• 25:04
  Right, which I which knew neither one of us knew that
• 25:06
  like, and then I think that correlates to the neck pain
• 25:10
  because it was inflaming along the, the, the, the, you know,
• 25:14
  the one to five vertebrae where the, where the pain was
• 25:16
  centered. And that's just it's.
• 25:18
  I have a very similar injury to Chris.
• 25:20
  So we, you know, we have that constant pain in in common and
• 25:25
  whatever you can do to alleviate that.
• 25:27
  I mean, I, I admitted on that show I'm guilty of based
• 25:32
  basically poisoning myself every day, right, Because I listened
• 25:36
  to hundreds of hours of these kind of talks.
• 25:39
  I'm not into fitness like you guys are, but luckily I was
• 25:42
  naturally gifted with not being able to gain weight.
• 25:46
  I have the opposite problem, right?
• 25:47
  If I don't continue to eat, I have a high metabolism, which is
• 25:51
  the opposite of most people. So.
• 25:55
  Yep. So going back to the starches,
• 25:57
  though, I feel like I like to, I like to kind of break this down
• 25:59
  in my head. I call it dehydrated starches
• 26:02
  because again, like especially when I'm talking to my kids, I
• 26:03
  don't want to say good foods, bad foods.
• 26:05
  That makes, I don't like, I'll say sometimes foods and always
• 26:07
  foods. It's like that's how I, the
• 26:09
  language is with them. But for when I'm talking to
• 26:11
  adults and clients, I talk about dehydrated starches.
• 26:13
  That's your cereals, your granolas, your pastas, your
• 26:15
  bagels, your breads, OK, some of those sorts of things.
• 26:17
  I, I, I'm agree to disagree on the, on the rices though,
• 26:20
  because I feel like that is a fairly unprocessed and like
• 26:23
  anything you get in a bag is going to have some level of
• 26:25
  processing. White rice is polished, but
• 26:28
  there's not a lot going on with rice.
• 26:29
  And then if you look at the difference between a brown rice
• 26:32
  and a white rice from the brown rice, some people can argue this
• 26:34
  more of the whole food than the white rice.
• 26:37
  Like from a from a vitamin and mineral standpoint, they are
• 26:39
  basically identical. That's a tiny bit.
• 26:42
  I'm not giving up rice. I could give up bread and
• 26:44
  bagels, I think I could do that, but I'm not.
• 26:48
  I I like rice too much. I think that like a lot of times
• 26:50
  with the when you see these like inflammation and pain, a lot of
• 26:53
  people will go gluten free and they're like, maybe I have a
• 26:56
  gluten intolerance. That's what I celiacs.
• 26:58
  That's what make you sure like maybe you have gluten tolerance.
• 27:01
  But what, what they're, what we're seeing now a lot more is
• 27:03
  that people are not necessarily seeing as like, oh, you don't
• 27:05
  have a gluten intolerance, you have a, you are just getting too
• 27:09
  much glyphosate. And what they're doing is
• 27:11
  they're spraying glyphosate, which is in Roundup and, and
• 27:13
  weed killer on the, on these plants, on these agriculture.
• 27:17
  And so we're getting a lot of that in our foods in our waters.
• 27:20
  Like even if you look at like within 2 miles of a golf course,
• 27:24
  you have a. If you live within 2 miles of a
• 27:25
  golf course, you have a 74% higher chance of getting
• 27:27
  Parkinson's due to all the pesticides I.
• 27:30
  Just saw that, Nate. Wow.
• 27:32
  So like there's a lot of, there's a lot of stuff even
• 27:35
  outside of like the specific like phytonutrients and
• 27:38
  micronutrient breakdowns of specific foods that are that is
• 27:41
  are playing into it. Well, here I'll, I'll reinforce
• 27:44
  that point for it because I live in agriculture USA, right?
• 27:48
  I'm surrounded by farmland. This particular plot of
• 27:52
  farmland, I don't know how, if it's this county or just maybe
• 27:57
  central Illinois in general, I think they have it down to this
• 28:00
  county has the highest cancer rate of any other plot of land
• 28:04
  in the United States. Oh sheesh, say that.
• 28:07
  Again, actually no real estate agent.
• 28:09
  What have they been? What have they been doing for
• 28:14
  eons now? Spraying chemicals on right so
• 28:18
  you're not eating. I agree with you.
• 28:19
  You are not eating the same foods that our parents ate when
• 28:23
  they were growing up. Right, because.
• 28:25
  They weren't doing that. People were walking the beans,
• 28:28
  they were detasseling corn. Now all that stuff is either
• 28:32
  done with chemicals or by machines, right?
• 28:34
  And, and here's something that stuck out when Nate was on the
• 28:36
  show before. Oh, fuck, what was it was
• 28:40
  really? Oh, fast food burgers.
• 28:43
  You take a fast food burger, you can chew it up and swallow it in
• 28:45
  two bites, right? Yeah.
• 28:47
  So last time Nikki and I made burgers at home, I made middle
• 28:51
  note. How many bites is it going to
• 28:52
  take me to chew this thing up? A swat?
• 28:54
  It's probably 10 to 15. A lot, yes.
• 28:56
  But that's so that's amazing. That to me was.
• 28:58
  Like, I paid attention to that, too when I listened to that show
• 29:00
  back, Nate. I was like, I'm going to because
• 29:02
  occasionally I'll, you know, I have guilty pleasures too.
• 29:05
  Maybe once, twice a month, probably not even that often,
• 29:09
  I'll stop at Wendy's and get one of those little hamburgers.
• 29:12
  The Junior. One right, right, right, right,
• 29:13
  right, right. Yeah, you can chew that.
• 29:16
  You can chew that thing one time, can swallow it.
• 29:19
  Now. The burger I make on the grill
• 29:20
  is made out of steak burger, right?
• 29:22
  You got to put some work into that and it tastes good, right?
• 29:25
  And you what's crazy about that is that like, since we were born
• 29:27
  to chew meat essentially, that's why we have canines and molars,
• 29:31
  correct? Like our faces.
• 29:33
  Our faces are going through a de evolution right now.
• 29:35
  Since the 60s. Our faces are getting smaller,
• 29:38
  more narrow. Our pallets are narrowing.
• 29:40
  People are needing to pull more teeth because of the crowding in
• 29:42
  there. Really.
• 29:43
  Airways are getting blocked. Me.
• 29:44
  Yeah, because we're not. They had to pull.
• 29:47
  Eight of my SO, my wisdom teeth, plus four of my permanent teeth.
• 29:52
  Four of my permanent teeth went before they could put my braces
• 29:55
  on because my jaw was too small, right?
• 29:57
  So like, well, a lot of that is just from us only eating soft
• 30:02
  foods back in the day, you know, like if you're living.
• 30:04
  In 100% I'm agreeing with you for sure.
• 30:06
  Yeah. And like, they even say that
• 30:08
  like the like, with the creation of fire and cooking our foods,
• 30:11
  our faces narrowed and that we went from like a real square
• 30:14
  Neanderthal face to like, more of like a really what we know
• 30:16
  today. Yeah.
• 30:17
  But now we see kids with just receding jaw lines, really small
• 30:22
  faces, really no like, jaw at all.
• 30:24
  You can see kind of like, it goes right next to chin.
• 30:26
  Yeah. And it's just from never having
• 30:28
  to chew anything. Wow.
• 30:32
  So we need to start, we need to start injecting crunchy foods
• 30:34
  into our kids diets like carrots and celery, steaks, steak, real
• 30:39
  burgers, not chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
• 30:43
  chicken. So.
• 30:43
  I want to hear Peter's rebuttal on the rice.
• 30:46
  Rebuttal, Rebuttal Rebuttal. Peter.
• 30:50
  Because we're not arguing here, We're having a, we're having a
• 30:52
  friendly debate. Exactly.
• 30:53
  These are two both really like we.
• 30:56
  Educated people. Exactly who know what the hell
• 30:58
  they're talking about. South, Nate.
• 30:59
  Loves and I want to keep eating rice right.
• 31:03
  I mean, Nate, it's right, you know, in terms of, you know, how
• 31:04
  it all depends on how people process food, right?
• 31:07
  Like how he said like, oh, some people go with it free.
• 31:09
  So I would say it just depends on people's bodies.
• 31:12
  Like, I'm OK, I for me myself, I can't process rice as I, I
• 31:16
  should be, but hey, that's what it is for me.
• 31:19
  But a lot of people, they don't even know they have gluten
• 31:21
  allergies until they eat the food.
• 31:22
  Then let me ask you this. Let's go ahead.
• 31:25
  So 1 camp says only white rice, the other camp says only brown
• 31:30
  rice. What is the benefit of one
• 31:33
  versus the other in your guys's opinion?
• 31:38
  Got to pull the sleeves. That's my question I guess.
• 31:40
  Pull the sleeves that make Show the guns man.
• 31:41
  Come on, show the guns. There you go.
• 31:44
  This is this is body built by Rice.
• 31:48
  So, so I've had, I've trained like probably touching like 1500
• 31:52
  clients now, like in person online.
• 31:54
  And I've had two people who had had a rice or a like a grass
• 31:58
  allergy and couldn't eat it could their bodies couldn't.
• 32:00
  Process. That's understandable.
• 32:01
  I'm allergic to dairy, right? I can't have any dairy, I know.
• 32:06
  But but in terms of white rice versus brown rice, yes, there's
• 32:09
  really no difference. Like if you pull up like a
• 32:11
  nutrition facts that actually looks at the vitamins, the
• 32:13
  minerals and the phytonutrients, all the things and there's just
• 32:17
  it's so minuscule what the actual difference is across the
• 32:20
  board. And I think this is one of the
• 32:22
  things that like I, I hate the missing the forest for the trees
• 32:26
  mentality and fitness where people are like, how many
• 32:28
  minutes should I cold plunge? I'm like, bitch, you don't walk
• 32:32
  like you haven't had a glass of water today.
• 32:35
  Like you don't need to cold plunge.
• 32:37
  So they're like, should I have brown rice or white rice?
• 32:38
  I'm like, just have rice and stop eating.
• 32:41
  Stop eating French fries. Like can we start with French
• 32:43
  fries and then like then move to rice?
• 32:45
  Like don't stress too much about these little little ass things
• 32:48
  that are not actually making a big difference in the grand.
• 32:50
  OK, then let me ask Peter one one question on that subject.
• 32:53
  Would you not agree that in Nate and Chris's case that they could
• 32:58
  probably eat all the rice they want because they're exercise
• 33:01
  freaks, right? It's probably not going to hurt
• 33:04
  them where you and I are maybe a little more sedentary.
• 33:08
  I walk a lot. I do probably average 5 miles a
• 33:11
  day walking. So that's another reason I don't
• 33:14
  gain a lot of weight. But I'm thinking that if you're
• 33:18
  a fitness freak, you probably rice isn't going to hurt you,
• 33:21
  right? As much as bread and bagels and
• 33:23
  cereal and, you know, bad, right?
• 33:30
  I mean, you're exercising, you're going to burn all that
• 33:31
  calorie off really quick, especially if you're, do you eat
• 33:35
  rice at night or do you just eat rice towards the morning before
• 33:39
  a certain time. So I do what I call energy first
• 33:42
  fat loss or like a low carb back loading.
• 33:45
  So I essentially put all of my carbohydrates around my workouts
• 33:47
  and then the PM. And so I do that in order to as
• 33:50
  like, like, you know, even if Mike is going on five mile walks
• 33:53
  per day, you know, Chris and I are working out or whatever,
• 33:55
  We're burning through our muscle glycogen, right?
• 33:57
  So our muscles can hold about 11 grams of glycogen per pound.
• 34:00
  Our liver holds about 110 grams of glycogen in total.
• 34:02
  Glycogen is blood sugar or energy and it fuels our muscles.
• 34:06
  So if you go through that your day and you burn through that,
• 34:09
  then you go have a big pile of rice, potatoes, whatever it is,
• 34:12
  even if it's bread. And it's like, you know, not
• 34:14
  like filled with chemicals that is going to break down into
• 34:17
  glucose or blood sugar and it is going to go into your muscle
• 34:20
  tissue. So the more muscle tissue, the
• 34:22
  more tacos you can eat. This is This is.
• 34:25
  That mic hear that mic? The more muscle tissue, the more
• 34:28
  tacos you can eat, brother. So if you kind of like if you
• 34:30
  kind of use your body's natural biochemistry, like where you
• 34:33
  like you realize you're burning through glycogen and then you're
• 34:35
  able to replace the glycogen, your body's never going to be
• 34:38
  actively looking to store fat. You are training it to store
• 34:41
  that those calories and that energy as fuel for later.
• 34:45
  And so the more of the exercise you're doing, the more the push
• 34:47
  ups you're doing, even if you're doing 10 squats every hour that
• 34:50
  you're that you're working or sitting at a desk doing them
• 34:52
  down to a couple push ups, that is going to compound over time.
• 34:55
  And like I know you guys said, you're, you guys are not really
• 34:58
  into exercise. I would love to see you crush a
• 35:01
  little bit of exercise and start building that up even to 5
• 35:03
  minutes a day. Like it just pays off massive
• 35:05
  dividends. Like a four O 1K, right?
• 35:07
  You could start that when you're when you're 60, but you don't
• 35:09
  have to put in thousands of dollars, hundreds of hours.
• 35:12
  Or you could start right now and really just put in like 100
• 35:15
  bucks a month and still see some really good returns over time.
• 35:17
  See, now I told Jake that when he was in 8th grade, 7th, 8th
• 35:21
  grade, he wanted to play football.
• 35:22
  I told him you need to do 100 push ups, 100 sit ups every day,
• 35:25
  right? Not consecutively because he
• 35:26
  doesn't. He wasn't there strength wise.
• 35:27
  But I said, and I used to call it 100 and 100.
• 35:30
  So at night, did you do 100? So and he never grasped that
• 35:35
  concept. So by the time he got the high
• 35:36
  school and he was playing football and he he played all
• 35:39
  four years at Basha that he was a great athlete, but he was
• 35:42
  never a starter. And part of it was he wasn't as
• 35:46
  bulky as the other kids. So Fast forward out of high
• 35:49
  school. The whole soprano scenario.
• 35:51
  Right, Fast forward to high. School had the makings of a
• 35:53
  varsity athlete. Right.
• 35:54
  But now he's in the Marines and he's like, and he's told me a
• 35:57
  few times like, you know, I really should have listened to
• 36:00
  you, Dad, because because it was the thing.
• 36:03
  It's like, there's nothing you can't accomplish with your own
• 36:07
  body because it's your own body. It's the one body you have.
• 36:09
  This is it. There's nothing else, which is
• 36:11
  why it frustrates me when I see people that are so I'm not
• 36:15
  saying this be mean, but just so overwhelmingly obese and out of
• 36:18
  shape and unhealthy. Like you have one life.
• 36:21
  You cannot be comfortable 100 lbs overweight.
• 36:24
  You just can't. You can't be happy with
• 36:26
  yourself. I think we all agree with.
• 36:27
  That right so I just I and but I think the reason why our world
• 36:31
  is gone that way 'cause I think you both will agree Peter and
• 36:33
  Nate, we are the most obese country in the world we are and
• 36:38
  it's because of the shit that people eat yeah yeah I.
• 36:41
  I honestly want to hear Peter. I want to hear your take.
• 36:43
  Why are we in the US right now? So unhealthy.
• 36:47
  Give me like, like, what are your what are your main reasons?
• 36:49
  What do you what do you see? Yeah, I think everything is just
• 36:51
  too convenient. I feel like, I feel like you can
• 36:54
  go to one spot. I'll be honest, like right down
• 36:55
  the street from me, we have a Subway, Chipotle, Taco Bell,
• 36:59
  Carl's Junior, Del Taco, McDonald's, jack-in-the-box.
• 37:02
  Like how convenient is that? Just go like a minute away and
• 37:05
  just go through the drive through.
• 37:07
  And I mean, we're taught to be lazy.
• 37:09
  I'm, I'm, I'm sorry to say this, but we're taught and it's true
• 37:11
  to be lazy as heck. We don't, we don't, we don't go
• 37:15
  to the grocery store, we don't shop.
• 37:16
  We we're not discipline to ourselves and I.
• 37:18
  Think that's reason why for the most part, people don't menu
• 37:21
  plan. We menu plan.
• 37:22
  We figure out what we're going to do for the week.
• 37:24
  Nate does it to you meal prep. There's a time where when when
• 37:27
  Nikki is full blown in the school we you like like school
• 37:30
  just in and but we'll make she'll make her five meals
• 37:33
  Sunday for her lunches and but that's the thing.
• 37:38
  Its failure to plan is why America's fat.
• 37:40
  Do you like that? I mean, no, I'm, I'm, I, I think
• 37:43
  Peter's right, though. I don't think it's necessarily
• 37:45
  failure to plan. There's probably a component of
• 37:46
  that in there. But, and I don't think it's
• 37:48
  necessarily that we, we eat poorly, although that is a,
• 37:51
  that's a big piece of it. Sure.
• 37:52
  I think it's literally the convenience aspect, right?
• 37:55
  And how comfortable we've gotten.
• 37:58
  And I think that like our culture is set up for us to get
• 38:00
  more and more comfortable. You guys ever seen Wall-e?
• 38:02
  Yes dude, we are still in Wally right now.
• 38:05
  We're not yet, we're not yet. We're getting there soon,
• 38:08
  especially as AI creeps up more and more and takes more people's
• 38:11
  jobs and we're starting to go to the universal basic income and
• 38:13
  there's going to be like VR worlds and people are just going
• 38:15
  to be like living in their things.
• 38:16
  Yep. Selling bits of their like their
• 38:18
  mental screen to Albertsons to advertise on there because
• 38:21
  everything is so convenient. Like Peter, you mentioned you
• 38:23
  got 5 things a minute away. Why even walk them in it away
• 38:27
  when you have DoorDash bring it to your house, right?
• 38:29
  You know, you can sit on the sit on your couch and watch Netflix
• 38:32
  movies on man, listen to any music that you want in the
• 38:34
  history of the world, have food delivered to your doorstep.
• 38:37
  We are being gradually conditioned to be lazier and
• 38:40
  lazier because, like, people want to pay for that.
• 38:42
  Even crazier than that. Even crazier than that, Nate,
• 38:45
  those same people that are sitting on their couch eating
• 38:47
  that hamburger will be for saving the animals, right?
• 38:52
  They're sitting there watching a documentary on saving.
• 38:55
  Not for saving themselves though.
• 38:56
  No, no. While they're eating a
• 38:58
  hamburger. That's what fascinates me.
• 39:00
  It's like, do you not see the disconnect, people?
• 39:02
  No, people don't get it. It's it's crazy.
• 39:04
  And, and to, to Peter's point, when you drive by those places,
• 39:09
  there's always a line, right? There's always like 1015 cars
• 39:11
  deep. Yeah.
• 39:13
  Did you see the thing about In-n-out Burger coming out this
• 39:15
  week, last week saying they're taking away, taking away the
• 39:20
  artificial ingredients on their menu.
• 39:21
  Wow. Right.
• 39:24
  In-n-out Burger, like they've, they've, they've stepped up and
• 39:27
  said, hey, just so you know, we're removing some of the
• 39:29
  artificial ingredients in our foods, really.
• 39:32
  Who does that? Yeah.
• 39:34
  Who? Well, number one, they admitted
• 39:35
  it and then #2 we're going to remove it.
• 39:37
  And then they, they just dropped the menu I saw yesterday
• 39:39
  scrolling they have it's basically approaching like like
• 39:45
  like a post workout type thing. Like if you if, and it wasn't
• 39:49
  bad, like I read it, it was pretty, it was like, wow, that's
• 39:51
  cool. So like you'd have a burger and
• 39:53
  had, you know, 316 calories, but it had 45 grams of protein.
• 39:56
  And, and, and they broke it down to the what was in the burger.
• 39:59
  That helps you because you, Nate, you do stuff on your
• 40:03
  Instagram page that you will go to a drive through and you know
• 40:05
  how to eat healthy at a drive through.
• 40:06
  So all these restaurants that Peter just talked about, you
• 40:09
  know, the little nuances to order to where you're not eating
• 40:12
  shit, you're eating something that's actually healthy and good
• 40:14
  for you. It's it's I would say it's not
• 40:16
  good for you, but it's like the the the best, the least evil.
• 40:20
  Yeah, right. We all end up in a drive through
• 40:23
  occasionally. You know, we're like Mike said,
• 40:25
  you're at Wendy's. I just did a Wendy's one.
• 40:26
  I got to edit it up and put it on social media.
• 40:28
  But I think, Peter, to your point, it's the epidemic is
• 40:30
  comfort. It's not it's not food, it's not
• 40:33
  lack of exercise. It's not sunscreens, not seed
• 40:35
  oils. It's, it's we're addicted to
• 40:37
  comfort. We're addicted to our cell
• 40:38
  phones, we're addicted to quick dopamine hits.
• 40:40
  And that is what's going to kill us slowly, like a frog boiling
• 40:42
  in water. And by the time it's too late,
• 40:43
  which I think it's already too late, we're going to look up and
• 40:46
  be like, wow, that's not what we wanted for 20/20/25.
• 40:51
  That was that little segment you guys just did that was
• 40:54
  outstanding. Absolutely.
• 40:56
  Thanks. Have us back on him.
• 40:58
  And I, I would agree with Nate, Peter, I know that you're
• 41:01
  younger than the rest of us. Don't ever apologize for telling
• 41:04
  people that they're not going to get healthy unless they do XY
• 41:08
  and Z. We're not going to change unless
• 41:10
  people listen to hard facts, right?
• 41:11
  RIP it off like a Band-Aid. Dude don't have a filter,
• 41:13
  especially on our show. RIP it off the filter.
• 41:15
  Date, you don't need to say heck no.
• 41:17
  What I mean no. I had a conversation with a
• 41:19
  client the other day and like he was, he was basically, we've
• 41:22
  been going back and forth for a while.
• 41:23
  He's been trying to do like the minimal effective dose of like
• 41:27
  drinking water, getting walks in, really just like the bare
• 41:30
  minimum. Sure.
• 41:31
  And he's like, am I ever going to be successful?
• 41:33
  He's just like real raw, like not getting results, kind of
• 41:35
  depressed. Am I ever going to be
• 41:36
  successful? And I said, no, you will never
• 41:39
  be successful. Good.
• 41:40
  And I and, and he was like, what do you mean by that?
• 41:42
  And I was like, the, the day I know you're going to be
• 41:45
  successful is the day you come back to me and you say, hey, I
• 41:49
  know I said I was going to commit to doing 20 minute walks
• 41:51
  for five days. I did 45 minute walks every day.
• 41:55
  The day I know you're going to be successful is the day you
• 41:56
  say, hey, I'm meal prep for this week even though you didn't ask
• 41:59
  me to. Hey, I went to the gym and I
• 42:01
  knocked out 100 push ups even though you didn't ask me to.
• 42:03
  And that's how I know you'll be successful.
• 42:05
  And until you say those words to me, you will never be
• 42:08
  successful. Because your current question
• 42:09
  is, hey, I know I didn't do my walk today, but I did do some
• 42:12
  gardening. Does that count?
• 42:15
  You're only screwing yourself. Yeah, exactly.
• 42:18
  I have a friend that that's going through a journey and he
• 42:20
  kind of unfortunately for him, he he told me he was trying to
• 42:25
  lose weight. Don't say that you don't mean.
• 42:28
  It well, because I'm that accountability guy, like if you
• 42:31
  bring me into that world and I did, I let him up.
• 42:33
  I kept letting him up. I kept checking in on him.
• 42:35
  I still do. And my thing, because I learned
• 42:37
  from you, Nate was OK, we're going to call him.
• 42:40
  We're going to call him Bob. So I, I told Bob, you need to
• 42:43
  walk an hour a day. I said 30 minutes in the
• 42:45
  afternoon, 30 minutes in the evening.
• 42:46
  Grab your wife and kids, go make them walk with you in the
• 42:48
  evening. So you're all doing it together.
• 42:52
  He asked about food. I said, well, I've, I've watched
• 42:55
  him eat and so I know how much he piles on.
• 42:57
  I was like, OK, maybe scale that back, you know, eat healthier
• 43:01
  portions. It doesn't matter.
• 43:03
  It doesn't matter what you eat per SE, but it matters how much
• 43:06
  of that you eat. So you could sit there and eat.
• 43:08
  I could eat 5 steaks, right? Or I could eat 5 Sonic
• 43:11
  cheeseburgers. That's not, that's not healthy
• 43:14
  eating that kind of amount of shit, right.
• 43:15
  But if I had one steak and, and a good carb and then a good
• 43:19
  vegetable and you know what I mean, That's, that's a
• 43:21
  well-rounded healthy meal to have.
• 43:22
  So he wasn't doing that. Bob would pile his plate up and
• 43:26
  I've continued to poke at him, poke at him, poke at him.
• 43:29
  He he downloaded the MyFitnessPal app.
• 43:31
  I told him to track everything and I followed up with that.
• 43:32
  Why I didn't track it and fucking track it, dude.
• 43:34
  It's not that difficult. You wake up in the morning, you
• 43:36
  know, he's eating oatmeal for breakfast every day.
• 43:37
  OK, Well that lowered his cholesterol level, which is
• 43:39
  doctor told him, so that's good. So he's baby step and stuff.
• 43:42
  But to your point, next time he I talk to him, Nate, I'm going
• 43:45
  to kind of bring it up in that aspect like.
• 43:48
  Well, you did not change your habits.
• 43:50
  Right. Thank you.
• 43:50
  Yes. It's everything that's with the
• 43:53
  bread and the starch thing we talked about, Peter, In my
• 43:56
  mindset, if it works, I'm not going back.
• 43:59
  So I'm hesitant to go back to rice because my neck hasn't
• 44:01
  hurt, even though Nate's saying rice isn't a big deal.
• 44:05
  Quinoa doesn't really digest, blah, blah, blah.
• 44:08
  And I can totally get that. I've never had a problem with
• 44:11
  with that part of my body. I freely go 3, three to five
• 44:14
  times a day. It's been good, you know, so
• 44:17
  like Chris's poop information, sex information, I just, you
• 44:21
  know, it's good. But that's, but it's a healthy
• 44:23
  thing though, right? It's, it's, it's my body.
• 44:25
  I treat my body. I honestly don't know if pooping
• 44:27
  five times a day is healthy. I would have to chat to PT that
• 44:30
  that sounds successive. I don't know if it's that.
• 44:32
  Also, how do you have a time like?
• 44:33
  That's why you're posting so much.
• 44:35
  Get it now. Every now and then he just right
• 44:39
  now and then he just likes to let people know that you know,
• 44:43
  it's. Probably more like a Was that
• 44:44
  like a weird poop flex? Like I poop a lot more than you?
• 44:47
  That's I, I. Just as a little this this is
• 44:50
  funny a little bit. I don't take my phone into the
• 44:51
  bathroom because I think that's disgusting when I go in a public
• 44:55
  restroom, OK, check this out when I this is I want you all to
• 44:58
  do this when I go, when I go into a public restroom, OK, And
• 45:02
  I walk in and I hear somebody on the phone in the stall.
• 45:04
  OK, And I'm the only one in there besides them.
• 45:08
  I'll, I'll do my, my urination in the in the urinal, right?
• 45:11
  I'll wash my hands and then they're still talking.
• 45:13
  I'll lean back and just wear that light switches and shut the
• 45:17
  door. They cannot say anything because
• 45:21
  if they do, the person they're talking to is going to know They
• 45:24
  took them in the bathroom. Not only in the bathroom, but
• 45:27
  into the closed door part of the bathroom, sat down as having a
• 45:29
  conversation the entire time. That's diabolical, I.
• 45:34
  Love it is diabolical and it's hilarious.
• 45:36
  And then you got to you got to hurry your way out just to make
• 45:38
  sure that nobody sees that you. Left and it's hilarious.
• 45:41
  I've done it about two or three times and only one time someone
• 45:43
  was like, so don't take your phone to the bathroom, boys and
• 45:49
  girls, and don't go to a public restroom if I'm on on the on
• 45:52
  the, the premises, because if you do, that's what's going to
• 45:56
  happen to you. That's my, that's my key take
• 45:59
  away from this episode, Yeah. Turn off the light in the
• 46:02
  bathroom. He knows.
• 46:03
  He knows he's in the minority, right?
• 46:05
  Yeah, no, that's the prime scrolling time.
• 46:07
  I've got 2 little kids. Every mother in the world's
• 46:11
  like, that's my only private diamond.
• 46:13
  Yeah, this is me time. You know, I just, I, I was on AI
• 46:17
  had to do traffic survival school not too long ago when the
• 46:19
  instructor was talking about, you know, it was a Zoom call.
• 46:21
  And this apparently this guy, this, this person who was on the
• 46:24
  class first hour for 30 minutes before the 1st break.
• 46:29
  He was apparently he was in the bathroom on his phone on the
• 46:32
  Zoom. And when he got up right, the
• 46:35
  phone fell and she's like, and the instructions like I was
• 46:39
  scarred for about 3 or 4 months because I saw everything,
• 46:43
  everything because he was on his phone.
• 46:46
  He stood up and he dropped it. So I'm thinking the vantage
• 46:49
  point was not very attractive at all.
• 46:51
  And he may have been making sure the backside was clean.
• 46:54
  She didn't go into details, but you know, scarred for life.
• 46:57
  Zooming in the bathroom. That's.
• 47:01
  Yeah, that's over, right? Wow, with 19 other people in the
• 47:04
  class, aren't you? We deserve anything that's
• 47:06
  coming to us at that point. Yeah, exactly.
• 47:09
  Exactly. I'll agree with you there.
• 47:11
  All right, so hey, this is Chris and Mike.
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  Real ones now. Right.
• 48:01
  So what else you guys, what else do you health and fitness guys
• 48:03
  want to talk about today? We got, and by the way, it's
• 48:05
  it's about 9:50. So we got about 20 minutes left
• 48:07
  because Nate's got a hard stop at 10 after.
• 48:09
  So we don't want to jeopardize his time and his other
• 48:11
  commitments. What else do you have to pick?
• 48:14
  Peter's brain or Peter? What do you want to pick Nate's
• 48:17
  brain about? Vice versa I guess.
• 48:19
  In terms of exercising, what, what do you recommend for people
• 48:23
  per week? I mean, I, I hit the gym now,
• 48:25
  but I'm just saying like in the in the beginning standpoint
• 48:28
  because I tell this to beginners too.
• 48:29
  But what, what would you say as a beginner?
• 48:31
  How many, how many times a week should they at least hit the gym
• 48:35
  or go for their walk? I mean I feel like walking
• 48:36
  should be a everyday thing, but let's say hit the gym.
• 48:39
  So I have like I've like my program is teared out into like
• 48:42
  6 steps. The first one is get off sugar.
• 48:43
  That's why we have that five day sugar detox.
• 48:46
  Get that at the free sugar detox.com.
• 48:47
  If you want to grab it for free, free sugar detox.com, you said
• 48:51
  the free sugar detox.com, you can just, you can just download
• 48:53
  it. So then after you get like kind
• 48:55
  of break a diction with sugar, you do a fast, you kind of reset
• 48:58
  your body, your body's natural set point of like fullness.
• 49:01
  Then I have the get moving stage and the get moving stage is
• 49:04
  really just about creating that sacred time to exercise, to
• 49:06
  train. And that's walking.
• 49:08
  And I think if you can walk for like 40 minutes to 60 minutes
• 49:12
  every single day, you're going to be in a good spot.
• 49:14
  You're going to be able to lose weight like that.
• 49:15
  You don't even need to hit the gym to do that.
• 49:17
  And then I got then it's get fueled, get clear, then get
• 49:23
  strong or something like that. And then this, do this.
• 49:25
  That's like stage 4 or 5 is where I start introducing people
• 49:28
  to lifting. And I think that minimum you
• 49:31
  should be doing 2 days per week. I think everyone could do 2
• 49:34
  days, 2 full body days, 45 minutes in and out the door.
• 49:36
  Staying super efficient with your time and your exercises.
• 49:39
  Make sure they're programmed appropriately so you're not like
• 49:41
  over deloading your load back or trying to do anything too crazy.
• 49:44
  I think that's perfect for a lot of people.
• 49:46
  And then I think, I think if you want to really improve your
• 49:48
  results three to four days per week.
• 49:50
  And I actually try to get guys off of this six day per week
• 49:53
  body part split that a lot of them are doing.
• 49:55
  And what I notice is that when I take guys who are training 5 or
• 49:58
  6 days per week down to three or four days per week, they get
• 50:00
  better results because they didn't even realize that they
• 50:02
  were over training for their amount of recovery they were
• 50:04
  able to do. So that's what I was doing with
• 50:07
  Orange Theory. 88 workouts a week three of which or six of
• 50:11
  which were back-to-back and I out shaped Orange Theory and I
• 50:15
  really I I stopped seeing gains so now that I don't do
• 50:19
  understand I'm more focused on weight training and not so much
• 50:21
  the the running and shit there's you you saw it today Nate just.
• 50:26
  I'm still seeing it every time you raise your arms, I see it.
• 50:30
  But I think 2 to 4 times per week is perfect.
• 50:33
  I, I think if you hate the gym, you still have to go.
• 50:36
  I think still going and training and building muscle because
• 50:38
  muscle is one of those metabolically healthy tissues
• 50:40
  that is going to help us age appropriately, keep us from
• 50:43
  breaking our hips. I got a friend who just turned
• 50:45
  40. She's she's super sedentary.
• 50:46
  And she she just said I turned 40.
• 50:48
  My body imploded. She like broke her ankle,
• 50:51
  tweezed her other knee, like her shoulder.
• 50:53
  She had a frozen shoulder. And I was like, like, I love
• 50:56
  you, but like, what do you expect?
• 50:58
  Yeah. You haven't moved in two
• 51:00
  decades. Like, what did you think was
• 51:01
  going to happen? Right.
• 51:03
  So like now I like, I have people going to the gym and like
• 51:05
  just even doing little things like step UPS or hip thrusts or
• 51:09
  pull downs and stuff like that. You're not just building muscle.
• 51:11
  And I think everyone has this idea of like, oh, I'm going to
• 51:13
  get build all this muscle we're. Going to look like Chris.
• 51:16
  Yeah, you're not going to, like, you're not going to drive your
• 51:18
  car around town and be like, oh, Jeff Gordon, suddenly I'm too
• 51:22
  good at driving. No, like that doesn't happen,
• 51:24
  right. So like, but you're building
• 51:25
  strength and like the ligaments, the tendons, the joints, you're
• 51:29
  bulletproofing your body. So when you go hiking about one
• 51:32
  time per year and you roll your ankle on the trail, it doesn't
• 51:34
  completely derail you because you've been doing step UPS,
• 51:37
  You've done things that have made you harder to kill.
• 51:39
  And I think there's a lot to be said for being harder to kill
• 51:43
  then there is like that, having like a super ripped 6 pack and
• 51:46
  being like all oily and standing on on the stage.
• 51:49
  Yeah. Although being oily is kind of
• 51:51
  nice, so. So here's another thing I want
• 51:56
  to, I want to touch on because from a male standpoint, guys
• 51:59
  want ABS guys. Guys want to be able to look in
• 52:01
  the mirrors and see their six pack, their eight pack, whatever
• 52:04
  it is, right? I can hold a 9 1/2 minute plank
• 52:07
  like we've talked about that. And if I took my shirt off, I'm
• 52:11
  not, I don't, I don't have the, you can't see my core RIP,
• 52:15
  right? And so Nikki, and I've talked
• 52:16
  about it to where, and I think you both alluded to this at some
• 52:20
  point, some we had you in our show building your core and
• 52:23
  flattening your core and things like that.
• 52:24
  That's all about movement. It's not necessarily doing like
• 52:27
  I can do 500 core exercises and not be out of breath, but that's
• 52:30
  not necessarily making the visual of my core there.
• 52:33
  I have an amazing core strength, right?
• 52:35
  Because I couldn't hold a plank that long if I didn't.
• 52:38
  But from a visual aspect, it's more about constantly moving and
• 52:42
  obviously part of what the diet is.
• 52:43
  I can see Nate's brain swimming, right?
• 52:45
  So it's part of what the intake is, correct?
• 52:47
  Yes. Yes.
• 52:48
  They say ABS are built in the kitchen.
• 52:49
  That's not true. ABS are built in.
• 52:51
  ABS are built with exercise and revealed in the kitchen.
• 52:53
  Right. Yeah.
• 52:54
  So you can lose all the fat. But if you can hold a 9 minute
• 52:56
  plank, it doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna have a six
• 52:58
  pack. Your core is made-up of a bunch
• 52:59
  of different muscles, right? Sure.
• 53:01
  So your core, when you're training up your plank position,
• 53:03
  that's like a pillar position. Your farmer's care, you're doing
• 53:06
  a plank. You're doing a plank.
• 53:06
  You're doing your training. Your, what's called your, your
• 53:08
  transverse abdominis and your transverse is this muscle that
• 53:12
  wraps around your waist like a girdle.
• 53:14
  It is super important for keeping your low back healthy,
• 53:16
  making sure that you can transfer power from the ground
• 53:18
  to up like your upper body. So it's great for football
• 53:20
  players. You have to have this Pilates is
• 53:22
  great for training this really not a lot of Pilates instructors
• 53:25
  have 6 packs, no. And the reason for that because
• 53:28
  they're like, we have the transverse, right?
• 53:29
  We have the internal external obliques, we have the spinal
• 53:32
  erectors and then we have what's called the rectus abdominis.
• 53:35
  That's your six pack. Those are the front muscles and
• 53:38
  an and an order to build a six pack, you need to train your
• 53:41
  rectus abdominis like they're your biceps.
• 53:44
  So these 50 Rep crunches, these nine minute planks, they're not
• 53:47
  going to build thick chunky muscles.
• 53:49
  Right. Like you see, like a guy like
• 53:52
  like Thor, like Thor the mountain, Thor Bronson.
• 53:55
  Yeah, and you see like some like Eddie Hall, some of these guys
• 53:58
  who are 300 plus pounds and have like a crazy 6 pack, it's
• 54:02
  because their core muscles are so developed and chunky that
• 54:05
  even at 22% body fat, you can still see them through the
• 54:08
  musculature. So there's three exercises that
• 54:10
  I always recommend people train if they want to build a visible
• 54:13
  6 pack. AB wheel roll outs.
• 54:15
  Toast balls, yeah, those because I don't do crunches and shit
• 54:19
  because I've always fucked with my neck.
• 54:21
  So my other I don't dare. But the AB rollouts, those are,
• 54:23
  those are, those are fucking legit right there.
• 54:26
  And you know they're legit because Rocky did them.
• 54:27
  Yeah, and when they're harder than people think.
• 54:30
  Well, yeah, they're hard if you do them right, but a lot of
• 54:31
  people do them wrong at them in their low backs.
• 54:33
  So I will roll outs, toast a bar, hang out like a hanging,
• 54:36
  hanging leg, raise and then a rope abdominal crunch.
• 54:39
  Like the crunch, what you do with the rope and the weight.
• 54:42
  So where's the? Where's the?
• 54:43
  Oh, so you're on the lat machine or?
• 54:45
  Yeah. Like a cable pull down.
• 54:47
  OK, OK. And so now you're doing 10 to 12
• 54:50
  reps with something, or you're actually squeezing your abs and
• 54:53
  you'll start to build that big blocky.
• 54:55
  Like blocky 6 pack look so just so I understand so the the
• 54:59
  machine where you put the the the rope and you got the handles
• 55:02
  like this like it's like AV, right?
• 55:03
  And you can, you can do the do them for the traps.
• 55:05
  And that's the rope I use the. Rope.
• 55:06
  And I kind of put it here and I squeeze my forehead with my hand
• 55:09
  with my heads like this. That way everything is coming
• 55:11
  from my, my, my core. So I arch up a little bit, get a
• 55:14
  little stretch in the ABS, and then I draw my sternum to my
• 55:18
  pelvis, OK, Because everybody wants to go down like this.
• 55:22
  Like you want to. Fold really work because you're
• 55:23
  doing kind of, we want to do it kneeling.
• 55:28
  OK, OK, OK. And you want to bring, you want
• 55:30
  to actually literally crunch these two areas together and get
• 55:33
  them as tight as possible. Most people use their hip
• 55:34
  flexors for abdominal movements. And the way we negate this, this
• 55:38
  is this is like next level tip right here is you take a
• 55:41
  medicine ball or you take a foam roller and you put it between
• 55:44
  your calves and your butt. So you're kneeling basically
• 55:47
  sitting on a foam roller, and when you are squeezing that foam
• 55:51
  roller between your calves and your butt, you're activating
• 55:54
  your hamstrings. OK, Now when you squeeze your
• 55:56
  biceps right, can you activate your triceps?
• 56:00
  Yeah, no, no. If you squeeze your what?
• 56:03
  Biceps? No.
• 56:04
  If I activate what though? Triceps.
• 56:06
  Oh hell no. I thought you thought that you
• 56:07
  reference chord. No, they're antagonists, right?
• 56:09
  So when you squeeze your biceps, you basically force your triceps
• 56:12
  into a mini yoga session. Your hip flexors and your
• 56:16
  hamstrings are also antagonists. So if you do something that's
• 56:19
  called antagonistic inhibition where you are activating your
• 56:22
  hamstrings, now you can't use your hip flexors for this
• 56:24
  movement and it has to be all into your abs.
• 56:27
  So I'll take guys who say they can do unlimited amounts of
• 56:30
  crunches, long term planks, I give them 50 lbs of additional
• 56:33
  resistance and take their hip flexors out of the equation.
• 56:35
  And all of a sudden and they're like, they got baby deer legs in
• 56:39
  their ABS. OK.
• 56:41
  And so if you can, if you can train your abs in this way, in a
• 56:43
  very specific way that is like I, I did £50 last week, I'm
• 56:46
  doing 60 lbs this week. And then kind of continue to
• 56:48
  build. You will build the blocky ABS,
• 56:51
  but just time and just reps are not going to do it.
• 56:53
  And I think I don't know why we started treating ABS like a
• 56:56
  muscle. We should do 100 reps of
• 56:57
  they're, they're like any other muscle.
• 56:58
  They respond well to high high stress, high tension.
• 57:02
  OK so AB roller the the pull down ropes on your knees.
• 57:05
  What was the other one? Hanging, hanging leg raises or
• 57:08
  toast Hanging leg raises. That's right.
• 57:09
  Knees to elbows is also a good fit too.
• 57:12
  There's another one called Gar Hammer raises, which sounds
• 57:14
  really crazy, but it's literally just like you holding onto an
• 57:16
  incline bench. Yeah.
• 57:17
  And then bringing your knees up. Oh yeah, I've done those.
• 57:21
  Yeah, I've done those. I've done a GAR hammer raises.
• 57:23
  I do it to where I have. Yeah, well, I'll have a 60 LB
• 57:26
  dumbbell on my on my. You hold it like that and then
• 57:29
  I'm on a bench and then I'll crunch up with my legs.
• 57:32
  OK, cool. I got a flat bench or a flat
• 57:34
  bench? Flat bench.
• 57:35
  OK, I never tried that today. Yeah.
• 57:37
  It's one of the things I started doing when I was in my boot for
• 57:39
  eight months. I needed to figure out something
• 57:40
  to do so I would. Put a million AB exercises.
• 57:42
  So I put a medicine ball between my ankles, a 20 LB medicine ball
• 57:46
  between my ankles, and I'd leave my legs up.
• 57:48
  I'd leave it up a little bit at an angle and then I would just.
• 57:52
  But the dumbbell want to talk about burning.
• 57:55
  Then every now and then when the trainers would come punch me in
• 57:56
  the stomach and I'm like, Oh yeah, Oh yeah.
• 57:59
  That's the good stuff. Yeah, you've got about 10
• 58:02
  minutes left. Anything else you guys want to
• 58:04
  cover, Peter? But oh, I know, I know, I know.
• 58:10
  So Nate had saw that I showed the hemp works supplement stuff
• 58:17
  drops. So he that was like, oh, I want
• 58:19
  to talk about that. So here you go, Nate.
• 58:20
  Talk about the drops. Peter, can you tell me about the
• 58:23
  drops a little bit first? Imagine that earlier you said
• 58:27
  you said I don't exercise, I drink water, I take my drops and
• 58:30
  I lose weight. Go on.
• 58:32
  Yeah, so, so technically I, I, I like to have all natural things
• 58:36
  like from plant to to bottle. And that's me the most important
• 58:39
  part, because I feel like talking about chemical process,
• 58:43
  process things. I believe in making sure that I
• 58:45
  use my plants, my roots, everything from my ancestors to
• 58:49
  really put in my body. Because we grew up with that.
• 58:51
  Just like how Nate was saying that we used to just eat and
• 58:53
  chew me all day and now our face looks like skinny and no
• 58:56
  muscular. I believe our body heals a lot
• 59:00
  more different when it comes to homeopathic and holistic
• 59:02
  healing. And that's really what it is, is
• 59:05
  we use plants, I use, we use the plants, we put it in the bottle,
• 59:09
  we mush it up and we take that and put it into people's bodies.
• 59:12
  And it helps people balance their hormones and also give
• 59:15
  them energy depending on which drops you take.
• 59:19
  So one of them balance the hormones, one of them gives you
• 59:22
  energy from the green tea extract, the B12 vitamins.
• 59:25
  But that's what it is. That's what my drop does.
• 59:28
  I'm not sure what Chris has, but.
• 59:30
  What is the what is the the hormone balancing drop have in
• 59:34
  it and how does that help with balancing hormones?
• 59:37
  I believe I will actually read it off right now actually.
• 59:39
  I, I want to stand correctly. I don't want to like ruin
• 59:42
  anything. Make sure I'm reading, reading
• 59:45
  the right one. Here we go.
• 59:46
  It has the BB12 vitamins, the biotin, the Rose hip fruit
• 59:53
  extract, the cerola, and hopefully I'm pronouncing this
• 59:57
  correctly, green tea leaf ashwagandha.
• 1:00:01
  Ashwagandha roots actually, and Rodelia Rosia roots.
• 1:00:05
  OK. So it's got some adaptogens in
• 1:00:07
  there. It's got the green tea.
• 1:00:08
  That's the one that's that's supposed to balance the hormones
• 1:00:10
  though. Correct.
• 1:00:12
  I don't I don't understand the mechanism why by which that
• 1:00:14
  would happen. Which which part?
• 1:00:17
  Well, number one, what are hormones?
• 1:00:19
  Like We, I mean, we have a bajillion hormones and I feel
• 1:00:23
  like balance hormones is a, is a catch phrase that is essentially
• 1:00:27
  meaningless unless you're telling me that it is actually
• 1:00:30
  helpful in facilitating like a like insulin sensitivity or
• 1:00:34
  ghrelin and leptin, talking about testosterone or human
• 1:00:38
  growth hormone or something like that.
• 1:00:39
  But there's a lot of different hormones in a lot of different
• 1:00:40
  endocrine processes. So balancing hormones is
• 1:00:43
  probably more complicated than taking drops.
• 1:00:46
  Plus like when I'm hearing the, the ingredients, I, I didn't
• 1:00:48
  know the, the one that's the one that started with the C or an S
• 1:00:51
  that you said. But everything else doesn't in
• 1:00:54
  my like research wouldn't be like a hormone balancing.
• 1:00:59
  First is adaptogens. They say like they are good for
• 1:01:02
  building energy and then relaxing your central nervous
• 1:01:04
  system. The green tea extract is going
• 1:01:05
  to help give you a little bit of energy, perhaps like with some,
• 1:01:08
  some fat burning, but that's like no different from a cup of
• 1:01:10
  coffee. So I don't see it at like in
• 1:01:13
  that, in that way. And I mean not like, not like
• 1:01:17
  obviously you have your experience and it's working for
• 1:01:19
  you. So like, I feel like there's
• 1:01:23
  always that some people are like, I love aminos and some
• 1:01:25
  people are like, I don't get anything from aminos, but I just
• 1:01:29
  don't understand the balancing hormones, which is why I'm
• 1:01:32
  pushing back on that. Yeah.
• 1:01:34
  I mean, in terms of the, I feel like there's more to it and I
• 1:01:38
  know that we do research on it, third party testings, but I feel
• 1:01:41
  like it only focuses on the stress hormones, the cortisol
• 1:01:45
  levels and using ashwagandha and the ingredients really help
• 1:01:49
  balancing that area. So I'm, I'm going to rephrase.
• 1:01:51
  I think I think you're correct. If I say balanced hormones, it
• 1:01:53
  gets kind of complicated more than more than saying that.
• 1:01:56
  But if you look at if for my for example, for me, the ashwagandha
• 1:02:00
  really helps my stress hormones, really lowering that stress
• 1:02:03
  level to really balancing everything else out like my
• 1:02:05
  liprid, my hunger hormones, making sure that I don't eat
• 1:02:09
  that snack anytime I want to have no.
• 1:02:12
  Crackers. No crackers.
• 1:02:14
  Also really show it that my body taking all that stress out takes
• 1:02:17
  all that bloating out in my in my whole body too, so.
• 1:02:20
  So like you're using kind of the stress as your lead domino,
• 1:02:23
  which helps you avoid the snacking, avoid like the hunger
• 1:02:27
  cues, avoid like that that bored, stressed, tired, like
• 1:02:30
  eating that we get a lot of. I'm using this as kind of your
• 1:02:33
  pre your like the way that you stay like level and that leads
• 1:02:38
  to those like downstream effects is what you're saying?
• 1:02:41
  OK, correct. Cool.
• 1:02:42
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• 1:02:44
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• 1:02:58
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• 1:02:59
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• 1:03:01
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• 1:03:31
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• 1:03:34
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• 1:03:37
  Peter, spell it out. UNKOH though, right?
• 1:03:40
  No, it's UNKOPEETAH. OK.
• 1:03:45
  Yeah, I'm from Hawaii, Nate. I'm originally from Hawaii.
• 1:03:47
  We call each other Uncle, Auntie's I, I.
• 1:03:50
  Can't fathom while you can't eat rice.
• 1:03:53
  Blowing my mind we. Eat spam, man.
• 1:03:55
  We've had a big conversation about spam and all the different
• 1:03:58
  variables with spam, you know, I'm sorry, interrupting your
• 1:04:01
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• 1:04:02
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• 1:04:05
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• 1:04:06
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• 1:04:12
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• 1:04:13
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• 1:04:15
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• 1:04:21
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• 1:04:23
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• 1:04:27
  Like your lava lamp bong in the background.
• 1:04:29
  Like, that's cool. It is a.
• 1:04:30
  Lot, Thank you very much. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:32
  I've been threatening to take it away and put it in front of me
• 1:04:34
  instead of behind me and I get pushed back on.
• 1:04:37
  That well, that's because all you would do the entire show to
• 1:04:39
  be staring at your lava lamp like, hey man, the colors.
• 1:04:41
  I got one right here that nobody can see all.
• 1:04:43
  Right. I would 100% smoke weed out of
• 1:04:45
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• 1:04:49
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• 1:04:50
  Might be able to do that. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:04:52
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• 1:04:55
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• 1:04:57
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• 1:05:00
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• 1:05:03
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• 1:05:05
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• 1:05:07
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• 1:05:10
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• 1:05:11
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• 1:05:13
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• 1:05:16
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• 1:05:18
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• 1:05:20
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• 1:05:24
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• 1:05:25
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• 1:05:28
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• 1:05:30
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• 1:05:32
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• 1:05:35
  I thought Nate was going to flex.
• 1:05:36
  Come on, Peter Flex. Come on, Mike Flex.
• 1:05:39
  Let's end little flex. Do you think everyone on the
• 1:05:43
  podcast knows that I I didn't have pants on for this one?
• 1:05:46
  Probably, you know, I don't sometimes.
• 1:05:48
  I'm not wearing any pants either.
• 1:05:49
  As far as they know, none of us are wearing pants, and Nate just
• 1:05:55
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• 1:05:58
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• 1:06:00
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• 1:06:01
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• 1:06:04
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• 1:06:07
  that that's fantastic. Yeah, you guys are awesome.
• 1:06:09
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• 1:06:11
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• 1:06:14
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• 1:06:17
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• 1:06:42
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• 1:06:50
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• 1:06:56
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• 1:07:00
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• 1:07:04
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• 1:08:15
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• 1:08:32
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• 1:08:39
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• 1:08:44
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• 1:08:46
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• 1:09:00
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• 1:09:05
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• 1:09:14
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• 1:09:19
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• 1:09:50
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• 1:09:53
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