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154. Massy Arias, Trainer & Wellness Coach · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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Speaker 1: Life is not a race. Life is a marathon and
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Speaker 1: you tackle it every single day, one step at a time.
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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, Emily about it Here? You are listening
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Speaker 2: to episode one fifty four of Hurdle, a wellness focused
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Speaker 2: podcast where I sit down with inspiring individuals to talk
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Speaker 2: about their big wins, tough moments, and everything in between.
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Speaker 2: On the show, you can expect vulnerability, motivation, and candid
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Speaker 2: discussions with everyone from top athletes and CEOs to aspiring
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Speaker 2: entrepreneurs on what it really takes to follow your passions.
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Speaker 2: My mission is simple to inspire you to be your
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Speaker 2: best self, move with intention, and of course, have some
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Speaker 2: fun along the way.
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Speaker 3: Today I am so.
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Speaker 2: Amped to be chatting with trainer and wellness coach Massy Arias.
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Speaker 2: I have been following Massi for gosh some time now,
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Speaker 2: so I was super interested to have this conversation with
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Speaker 2: her and learn about her backstory, which, without a doubt,
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Speaker 2: man has a lot of hurdles. In today's episode, she
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Speaker 2: goes into a whole lot of detail, getting into all
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Speaker 2: of it about her coming to the US from the
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Speaker 2: Dominican Republic at age thirteen, dealing with being bullied in school,
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Speaker 2: navigating abusive relationships, and also her brother's stage four cancer diagnosis.
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Speaker 2: She also shares about the hurdle moment that got her
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Speaker 2: into fitness, slipping into a deep depression that had her
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Speaker 2: barely leaving her bedroom for eight months. Learning how to
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Speaker 2: exercise change everything for Massie, inspiring her to not only
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Speaker 2: get strong physically, but also mentally. Now today, the New
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Speaker 2: Mom lives in Los Angeles and she offers up fitness
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Speaker 2: plans and inspiration to her millions of social media followers,
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Speaker 2: feeling more fulfilled and excited for both life and her
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Speaker 2: career than she ever imagined. There were so many things
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Speaker 2: I loved about hearing from Massi today.
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Speaker 3: First of all, her resilience, her strength.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there were points in the conversation where I
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Speaker 2: had more questions, but I just kind of wanted to
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Speaker 2: let her speak because again, her passion, her strength, it
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Speaker 2: is awe inspiring. And also I can appreciate that she's
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Speaker 2: a single mom, She's working her butt off, and she
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Speaker 2: really puts a heavy, heavy emphasis on the importance of
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Speaker 2: education when it comes to her training, to furthering her
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Speaker 2: business and so on and so forth. So MASSI, thanks
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Speaker 2: so much for your time. I am inspired by you.
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Speaker 2: And I'm so excited to bring this episode to the feed.
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Speaker 2: Before we get into it today, I'm going to keep
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Speaker 3: Also a little bit of housekeeping.
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Speaker 2: A book club scheduling conflict is going to be on
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Speaker 2: April twenty first. I would love to see you there.
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Speaker 3: Today on the.
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Speaker 2: Show, I am sitting down with Massy Arias. She is
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Speaker 2: a personal trainer, she's a health coach, she's an entrepreneur.
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Speaker 3: How you doing today?
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Speaker 1: I am doing great. Thank you so much for having me.
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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful day here in California.
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Speaker 3: I have to give you some props.
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Speaker 2: I personally my fitness wardrobe very tame on the color front. You,
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Speaker 2: my friend, post the most beautiful looking on palms as
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Speaker 2: you are doing all of the crazy things that you do,
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Speaker 2: but your color profile is on point.
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Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is that I lived in New
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Speaker 1: York for twelve years and when I initially moved to
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Speaker 1: the States, it was in New York City and my
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Speaker 1: favorite color was black, and it was black head to
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Speaker 1: toe all day, every day. I still love black, but
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Speaker 1: I started to add a lot more color into my
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Speaker 1: life when I came to California. When I moved, it
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Speaker 1: made that transition from New York to California. But it's
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Speaker 1: it's good.
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Speaker 2: Do you feel self conscious at all about the sweat
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Speaker 2: and the colors? Because sometimes that's what prevents me from
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Speaker 2: going bright colors for working out.
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Speaker 1: Like, here's the thing, we're all adults. If I'm working out,
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Speaker 1: I'm working out. I don't care if it's I don't work.
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Speaker 1: I don't usually wear workout clothes to look cute in
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Speaker 1: the clothes. Yes, I love a nice outfit. I love color,
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Speaker 1: but I don't stay away or I don't steer away
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Speaker 1: from color because of the sweat, Like that is something
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Speaker 1: that's going to happen regardless. So no, I don't stay away.
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Speaker 1: But I know what you mean by just sweat areas
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Speaker 1: looking a little suspect, But I don't.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't mind it just a little suspect. Well,
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Speaker 3: you mentioned moving to New York. You did so from
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Speaker 3: the Dominican Republic. Is that right?
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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So talk to me about that time in
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Speaker 2: your life and moving to New York City as a
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Speaker 2: young girl.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, where do I start. I came to
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Speaker 1: the States when I was thirteen, and just like every
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Speaker 1: dream of all immigrants like you, moved to the States
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Speaker 1: to get a better life, have a better future. And
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Speaker 1: that's what my parents did. So I first came with
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Speaker 1: my brother. I ended up in Queens, Southozone Park, and
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Speaker 1: that was a really hard transition because I did not
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Speaker 1: want to leave. I did not understand why am I
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Speaker 1: going to you know, I'm thirteen, I don't know any better.
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Speaker 1: And it was a really hard transition learning and adapting
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Speaker 1: to the culture. I was bullied a lot in school
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Speaker 1: just because of my accent. And it is funny because
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Speaker 1: it wasn't even about other cultures that were making fun
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Speaker 1: of me, but my own, like Latinos right, So that
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Speaker 1: to me was very interesting. My father at the time
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Speaker 1: was in a relationship with this amazing woman who she
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Speaker 1: really really took the time to concentrate on me learning
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Speaker 1: the language, so she would never speak to me in Spanish,
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Speaker 1: barely just when she needed to translate a few things.
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Speaker 1: And I took it upon myself to actually, you know,
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Speaker 1: once that rebellious side of me of not wanting to
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Speaker 1: move and leave my friends, and just as I was
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Speaker 1: just a teenager, once that I came to terms with
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Speaker 1: that realization like okay, well this is my new normal,
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Speaker 1: I took it upon myself to really integrate myself into
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Speaker 1: the culture and learn the environment. And when I enrolled
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Speaker 1: in high school, I was put in ESL English as
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Speaker 1: a second language, and a year later I was out
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Speaker 1: and graduated. When I was seventeen, and then my brother
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Speaker 1: who came to the States with me, had gone back
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Speaker 1: home because he did not like the culture. He is
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Speaker 1: or was a mama's boy at that time, and he
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Speaker 1: just didn't have a lot of fun here, so it
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Speaker 1: was really really hard for him to adjust to the culture.
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Speaker 1: And that same brother, we are one year apart, he
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Speaker 1: develops burketsymphoma, and in the transition for me graduating high
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Speaker 1: school and applying to Sunni schools, meaning out of the
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Speaker 1: state schools, my brother gets terminal cancer stage four, and
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Speaker 1: me being the only person you know, my dad, Yes,
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Speaker 1: he understands here and there English, but he still has
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Speaker 1: maintained his businesses pretty much in like Spanglish. So I
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Speaker 1: took it upon myself. I said, you know what, I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to go away for school. This is more important.
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Speaker 1: I stayed in Queen's and I went to Queen's College,
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Speaker 1: and for about a year I spent it in Presbyterian
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Speaker 1: Hospital with my brother and my mother taking care of him.
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Speaker 1: I've always been someone that in the back of my head,
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Speaker 1: I've always been, my mom tells me all the time
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Speaker 1: growing up, I've always been that person with big dreams. Right,
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Speaker 1: So my parents, especially being the only girl in the family,
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Speaker 1: had a lot of put a lot of responsibility on
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Speaker 1: me and had a lot of hopes that I would
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Speaker 1: be as mature as I was growing up. I would
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Speaker 1: just carry that on, and for me it was really
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Speaker 1: hard just transitioning, graduating and having certain dreams to then
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Speaker 1: wait a second, I have to stop all these dreams.
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Speaker 1: My family is more important. From seventeen to nineteen was
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Speaker 1: when my my brother came with terminal cancer and I decide,
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Speaker 1: you know what, let me just take care of my
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Speaker 1: brother and be there to support my family in any
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Speaker 1: way that I can. At that time, it was just
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Speaker 1: me translating for my mom. So in those two years,
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Speaker 1: one year spending in Presbyterian Hospital with my brother, I
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Speaker 1: was going to school full time, being in the hospital
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Speaker 1: full time with my mom, and working part time at
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Speaker 1: this store Aldo selling accessories. And I supported myself with
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Speaker 1: the school grants and my little job. So my brother
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Speaker 1: gets better. I getting into a relationship that truly I
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Speaker 1: was too young, to be quite honest with you. Too young,
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Speaker 1: didn't know what I was doing. And in a transition
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Speaker 1: from nineteen to twenty two, I can tell you that
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Speaker 1: I pretty much lost myself. My decision of emancipated. To
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Speaker 1: emancipate came at a heavy cost because I felt alone.
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Speaker 1: I didn't have my family, and then I fell into
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Speaker 1: lying to my parents because I couldn't keep up. I
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Speaker 1: couldn't keep up with school, I couldn't keep up with work.
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Speaker 1: I missed my family so much. I you know, the
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Speaker 1: decision to emancipate was not something that my parents agreed on.
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Speaker 1: So it was me rebelling and saying no, absolutely no,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to stay here and I'm going to make
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Speaker 1: something out of myself. So in these three years, I
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Speaker 1: literally was involved in a relationship that I taught me
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Speaker 1: a lot but gave me body dys morphia. And this person,
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Speaker 1: truly just this was expected every single thing I could
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Speaker 1: think a woman feels respected by so, and meaning I
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Speaker 1: was too young being in relationship with someone a little
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Speaker 1: bit older, a few years, not by a lot, but
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Speaker 1: a few years, a couple of years older, And it
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Speaker 1: was not fun. And I found myself lying to my
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Speaker 1: parents about this relationship, lying to my parents about my
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Speaker 1: performance in school, lying to my parents about what I
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Speaker 1: was doing every single day. And at nineteen I started
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Speaker 1: to get all these tattoos. I hid all these things
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Speaker 1: from my parents, and it was a couple of years
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Speaker 1: of complete just just recklessness. It truly shaped me with
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Speaker 1: a lot of insecurities. I was very disappointed in myself
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Speaker 1: for not carrying through the life that I said I
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Speaker 1: was going to carry through a young woman, and it
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Speaker 1: was I was spiraling and I had no control, pretty
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Speaker 1: much no control whatsoever. And some point I started feeling
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Speaker 1: that I was not living to the full, like to
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Speaker 1: my to the expectations that I had, to the expectation
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Speaker 1: that my parents had. And in the Latino culture, our
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Speaker 1: parents put a lot of responsibility on their children, and
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Speaker 1: my parents knew, like they knew, Massie is going to
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Speaker 1: be something great. Massi is going to be something great.
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Speaker 1: And I wasn't great. So in those years of I'm
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Speaker 1: becoming a woman, not having my my my mother close
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Speaker 1: to me, just becoming a woman figuring things out on
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Speaker 1: my own, it was really really hard, and I was
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Speaker 1: so stubborn. I thought I could do it all and
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Speaker 1: everything's going to be okay, and I'm going to manage everything,
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna show my parents a My decision of
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Speaker 1: going against the group what they wanted me to do
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Speaker 1: was worth it. So then I made a decision of
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Speaker 1: I need to do something different. I really have to
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Speaker 1: open up to what's really happening. My father comes back
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Speaker 1: from the Dominican Republic, comes back to the States, and
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Speaker 1: I decide this relationship it's not going to like a
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Speaker 1: break broke up. And from the breakup, everything pretty much hit.
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Speaker 1: I said, what am I doing? My father comes back
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Speaker 1: and I quit everything. So in the next a months,
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Speaker 1: I spent it in a room my dad. I quit everything,
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Speaker 1: and my dad said, let me just help you. This
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Speaker 1: is what I'm here for. Let's reconnect this couple of
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Speaker 1: years or three or four years that he had been gone.
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Speaker 1: And I spent it in a room I used to
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Speaker 1: live in Brooklyn at that time, in this tiny little
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Speaker 1: apartment with my dad. I spent eight months in a room,
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Speaker 1: not doing anything. So that's when my depression and pretty
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Speaker 1: much my decision to start fitness came about. So in
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Speaker 1: this eight months, a lot of people suffer from depression
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Speaker 1: and suffer and exhibit different responses to it. I was
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Speaker 1: just not eating. And mind you, I'm almost five nine,
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Speaker 1: I'm a pretty tall person. I was down to one
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Speaker 1: hundred and ten pounds, but not one hundred and ten
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Speaker 1: pounds of ag she has lean muscle mass. Ah, she
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Speaker 1: looks great. No, it was just unhealthy and I was
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Speaker 1: not the healthiest person coming out of not living a
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Speaker 1: very healthy lifestyle. So my body started destroying itself. My
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Speaker 1: body started, my gum started receding, I was losing my hair.
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Speaker 1: I became so scrawny and so small. It was you
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Speaker 1: could see my rips. It was just not healthy. And
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Speaker 1: I tried pretty much everything from cognitive therapy to herbal
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Speaker 1: medicine to hypnosis to try to get these feelings of
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Speaker 1: just heartache.
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Speaker 2: I want to just unpack and double click for a moment,
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Speaker 2: going back to this time in your life where you
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Speaker 2: knew you weren't in the healthiest relationship, and because of that,
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Speaker 2: you started to hide aspects of your life, obviously all
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Speaker 2: of the tattoos with the people you care about. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I think that's something that a lot of people can
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Speaker 2: relate to for different reasons in their lives.
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Speaker 3: Right Like when we know.
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Speaker 2: That something might not be the best for us, but
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Speaker 2: we're not ready to let it go yet, we just
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Speaker 2: stop filling in all the blanks. For you at that time,
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Speaker 2: was there anyone that you talked to about your relationship
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Speaker 2: or was that all just deep inside.
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Speaker 1: My best friend, you know, my best friend, and it
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Speaker 1: wasn't the best I just hit it. I remember showing
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Speaker 1: a picture to my mother and my mother did not
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Speaker 1: like this guy. So I hit everything. You know, my
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Speaker 1: family was very orthodox. You have to do these things,
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Speaker 1: and this is how you're gonna graduate from high school,
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Speaker 1: then graduate from college, then find a nice man you're
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Speaker 1: gonna marry, and just buy the book. And I've never
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Speaker 1: been this type of person. I've never been traditional from
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Speaker 1: a very beginning. My mom describes me at someone very
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Speaker 1: not traditional. And I was hiding all these things because
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Speaker 1: it wasn't what my parents wanted for me. So my imagine,
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Speaker 1: seventeen years old, a kid, you're out, you make this
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Speaker 1: decision that is not what your parents want, and you say,
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Speaker 1: uh uh, I'm gonna show you guys just stubborn. And
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Speaker 1: I hid everything from my parents. I was so stubborn
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Speaker 1: and proud, and it was just I spiraled yea out
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Speaker 1: of control with everything.
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Speaker 2: No wonder why when you were in that room all
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Speaker 2: of the time and you were just feeling so overwhelmed
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Speaker 2: because it wasn't even like you had in your mind
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Speaker 2: let your family down, but you hadn't even had a
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Speaker 2: legitimate conversation with yourself about what it was that you wanted.
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Speaker 2: You were just so beside yourself about this idea that
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Speaker 2: you weren't living out or doing what.
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Speaker 3: They made you feel like you were supposed to do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that transition, like from this seventeen to twenty two,
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Speaker 1: I know what it is to live in one bedroom
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Speaker 1: apartment with three roommates, eat couple of noodle soups. I
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Speaker 1: was so proud. I would not contact my parents for
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Speaker 1: absolutely anything. Anything. I said, I'm going to do this myself,
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Speaker 1: and I'm just I was so proud. There was one
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Speaker 1: book that I purchased for a breakup, How to Heal
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Speaker 1: a Breakup? I remember, and I felt so lost. And
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Speaker 1: one of the exercises that the book had at that
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Speaker 1: time was that I needed to get rid of all
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Speaker 1: the toxic things in my life. That's when I made
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Speaker 1: a transition of Okay, I have to let this go.
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Speaker 1: All toxic things, alcohol, cigarettes, weed, all of it, the clubbing, everything.
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Speaker 1: I removed people that didn't need to belong in my life.
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Speaker 1: That made that encouraged me to do these things. I
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Speaker 1: removed absolutely everything that I thought was anchoring me, anchoring
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Speaker 1: me in sadness, anchoring me in bad habits, anchoring me
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Speaker 1: in bad choices. And one of the healthiest choices was exercise.
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Speaker 1: And it actually mentioned it in the book. I was
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Speaker 1: not going outside. I was not even taken in sun.
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Speaker 1: And I remember with my best friend and we signed
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Speaker 1: up for the gym. And mind you, I'm one hundred
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Speaker 1: and ten pounds. I can't even do a push up.
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Speaker 1: I'm just so little. And there was one thing that
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Speaker 1: carried everything up to this point. I wanted to feel strong,
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Speaker 1: and for me, it wasn't even about physic my physical strength,
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Speaker 1: because I was so weak. I was so weak. A
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Speaker 1: lot of people don't know I have exercise in those asthma.
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Speaker 1: I'm allergic to the world. I have so many allergies
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Speaker 1: I have. I said, Oh my god, I reflecting on it,
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Speaker 1: I can't believe that I was just in this toxic relationship.
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Speaker 1: How How did I bring so much toxicity in my life?
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Speaker 1: I know better. I felt like an impostor. I felt
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Speaker 1: like I was not living to the full, my fullest potential.
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Speaker 1: And when it came to exercise, a lot of people
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Speaker 1: don't relate exercise to actually life. I was the girl
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Speaker 1: who couldn't and I was a cardio buddy at that
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Speaker 1: time because I didn't know how to do anything. And
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Speaker 1: in the transition the last couple of months that I
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Speaker 1: was with my dad in that room, I started educating
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Speaker 1: myself because I had to do something. At some point.
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Speaker 1: I had to do something. At some point, I said,
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Speaker 1: if I continue this way, I don't think I am
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Speaker 1: going to be here. Because I had suicidal thoughts. I
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Speaker 1: was literally destroying myself from the inside out. So I
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Speaker 1: started moving and it was the elliptical. My friend and
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Speaker 1: I would go to the elliptical. She's a little bit
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Speaker 1: more to love than I am, and that I was
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Speaker 1: at that time, and we were just like, do the
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Speaker 1: elliptical here and there. I was going out more. I
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Speaker 1: was feeling a lot better. Right after being on the elliptical.
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Speaker 1: I would feel better. I would come home. I started
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Speaker 1: to get a little bit more hungry. But then I said,
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Speaker 1: wait a second, I'm just wasting away. I went all
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Speaker 1: the way down to like one hundred and eight pounds,
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Speaker 1: So how did I make a transition to even heavier lifts.
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Speaker 1: I started going to the library, and to avoid my
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Speaker 1: father from coming home to catch me in the middle
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Speaker 1: of the afternoon when I was telling him, oh, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm still going to school, but I'm not. I would
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Speaker 1: go to the library and I would get all these
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Speaker 1: books I remember, like all the Ace books, the Nasam books,
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Speaker 1: and I would read and I remember I opened up
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Speaker 1: Instagram on twenty eleven. I opened up Instagram and it
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Speaker 1: was just a outlet for me to meet new people.
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Speaker 1: And in this book, not only did I get rid
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Speaker 1: of all the toxic things, but I started making new relationships,
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Speaker 1: started making new relationships in the gym because we were regular,
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Speaker 1: started making new relationships in this app that at that
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Speaker 1: time was a filter app, and then people would interact
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Speaker 1: with you. And I remember when I first started my journey,
22:53
Speaker 1: I couldn't even do a push up nothing. I just
22:56
Speaker 1: wanted to feel super strong. So I started educating myself
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Speaker 1: and I started using Instagram to share, just share what
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Speaker 1: I was doing. And I remember one photo went viral
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Speaker 1: in the middle of me just being depressed, me trying
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Speaker 1: to figure out. One picture went viral. I get eleven
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Speaker 1: thousand followers out of nowhere. I said, why, just my stomach,
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Speaker 1: like I'm not even healthy, and I would talk about
23:22
Speaker 1: these things. At that time, it was men go beeca.
23:25
Speaker 1: I would talk about these things, I'm not healthy, and
23:27
Speaker 1: I literally started sharing my journey and people saw someone
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Speaker 1: from zero turning to the person that I am today.
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Speaker 1: And there is a huge connection to me between the
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Speaker 1: strength that I feel in the gym and with doing
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Speaker 1: all the things that I thought I would I was
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Speaker 1: never going to accomplish it. I related to my mindset.
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Speaker 1: It taught me how to be regimented, how to be
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Speaker 1: hopeful that, hey, I may not be able to do
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Speaker 1: three or four, I accomplish. I accomplished absolutely everything that
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24:21
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24:27
Speaker 1: the things that she had put besides like maybe a
24:31
Speaker 1: five pound dumbbells, couldn't do the pushups, couldn't even understand anything.
24:36
Speaker 1: And that was the transition to oh my god, this
24:39
Speaker 1: is making me feel good. Oh my god, I can
24:42
Speaker 1: put all my energy into something that is making me
24:44
Speaker 1: feel accomplished. Then I started to get popularity. I meet
24:48
Speaker 1: some people on social media, and then I started seeing
24:51
Speaker 1: this industry of like people that compete and they manipulate
24:54
Speaker 1: their bodies. Oh my god, bodybuilding. I competed in all
24:58
Speaker 1: these fitness competitions for a year and a half and
25:01
Speaker 1: it was the most unhealthy industry you can think of.
25:07
Speaker 1: It created a lot of issues like body even more
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Speaker 1: body dys morphia, because when you're getting on stage, someone
25:19
Speaker 1: is telling you my twenty four inch waist. At that time,
25:22
Speaker 1: in mind you I have very narrow hips, very very
25:26
Speaker 1: narrow hips, and someone is telling me getting a corsette
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Speaker 1: make your way smaller so that you have the appearance
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25:36
Speaker 1: to learn about nutrition. I'm looking at my plan and
25:39
Speaker 1: I said, how is this possible? This doesn't make any sense.
25:43
Speaker 1: Where are all my vitamins and my nutrients and my micronutrients,
25:46
Speaker 1: Like this doesn't make sense. I saw a lot of
25:49
Speaker 1: girls who would prepare themselves for these competitions, not even
25:53
Speaker 1: having the right amount of time to building of muscle,
25:59
Speaker 1: doing trash diets, doing just the most unhealthy things, developing
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Speaker 1: bulimia and orexia, body dys morphia, all kinds, all kinds
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Speaker 1: of conditions that are within the bodydys morphia disorder. So
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Speaker 1: I said, I need to create a plan that made sense.
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Speaker 1: How can someone accomplish their goals and still maintain a
26:21
Speaker 1: healthy relationship with food. So I went from the bodybuilding
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26:35
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26:37
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Speaker 2: often think that it's hard, especially I mean you guys
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Speaker 2: that sometimes, yes, the first step is the hardest, but
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Speaker 1: Oh. Yes, most people think that I have been an
31:07
Speaker 1: athlete since high school and they have no idea. I
31:12
Speaker 1: don't want people to consume my fitness as entertainment, you
31:15
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I'm going to give you
31:18
Speaker 1: the real of things. I Am not going to be
31:21
Speaker 1: doing things that potentially can send the wrong message, even
31:28
Speaker 1: though you can send the wrong message unintentionally, you know.
31:33
Speaker 1: So for me, when I speak to a beginner, I
31:38
Speaker 1: fell in love with how I felt. It's hard, especially
31:46
Speaker 1: when you're starting and you don't know where to even begin.
31:49
Speaker 1: It is probably one of the hardest things that you
31:51
Speaker 1: are going to do. But because it's one of the
31:54
Speaker 1: hardest things changing your lifestyle, it's going to be one
31:57
Speaker 1: of the hardest things that you ever do. It's going
31:58
Speaker 1: to teach you how to be reskill and how to
32:00
Speaker 1: be relentless if there's consistency in it. And when you
32:06
Speaker 1: fall in love with the feeling, think about how you're feeling.
32:10
Speaker 1: And to me, it was the after because in the beginning,
32:13
Speaker 1: oh my.
32:13
Speaker 3: God, did not feel good.
32:15
Speaker 1: The alarm reaction that your body has in the soreness,
32:17
Speaker 1: and you're just like, what this is going to be
32:20
Speaker 1: my life for the you know, for the rest of
32:22
Speaker 1: my life. I have to learn a lot because I
32:25
Speaker 1: went from like zero to like hero without knowing, without
32:33
Speaker 1: knowing much, and until I got all my certifications, until
32:37
Speaker 1: I got the education, until the years of experience and learning,
32:41
Speaker 1: even learning different philosophies from different mentors that I've had
32:46
Speaker 1: work at this point, so thankfully, I've even on the business.
32:51
Speaker 1: We've removed that, Hey, you're gonna start from a from
32:55
Speaker 1: zero and here's what I'm going to give you. No,
32:58
Speaker 1: We've developed promming that is sustainable, and that is the
33:02
Speaker 1: whole brand. It's always been about mental health, about performance,
33:08
Speaker 1: and the body follows. It's always been about making the
33:11
Speaker 1: healthy choices first so that you can start feeling better.
33:15
Speaker 1: And then we get a little bit more technical, okay,
33:18
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, for me, fitness
33:23
Speaker 1: is more than just the aesthetics. The body is there
33:25
Speaker 1: because of all the things that I do and the
33:27
Speaker 1: consistency that I have. But the foundation of all the
33:35
Speaker 1: things that I do come from the standpoint that I am.
33:42
Speaker 1: This is my healthy outlet to cope with anxiety, with sadness,
33:49
Speaker 1: with fear, with everything. This is my outlet. If you
33:53
Speaker 1: cannot relate exercise and living this lifestyle as a this
34:02
Speaker 1: is the game of life. Then you're going to have
34:04
Speaker 1: a hard time getting into it.
34:07
Speaker 2: I'm curious you went from being very closed off and
34:11
Speaker 2: being open about what was going on with your life,
34:13
Speaker 2: only sharing some details with few individuals. Did you go
34:17
Speaker 2: through a period where it was quite difficult for you
34:21
Speaker 2: to be actually transparent about what you were going through,
34:25
Speaker 2: even in terms of your fitness journey, because you were
34:28
Speaker 2: used to being so closed off. Did you feel just
34:32
Speaker 2: so vulnerable when you started to share with more and
34:35
Speaker 2: more people on that Instagram following really took off.
34:38
Speaker 1: I feel vulnerable with my family, with the people that
34:41
Speaker 1: were close to me, not vulnerable with the strangers. But
34:47
Speaker 1: now have become sort of like my tribe, right, and
34:51
Speaker 1: I understood that my story. The amount of emails, Oh
34:55
Speaker 1: my god, the amount of At some point, I used
34:58
Speaker 1: to get so many letters of emails and people that
35:04
Speaker 1: would stop me in the street, like you have no
35:06
Speaker 1: idea how you've changed my life, And still it was incredible.
35:11
Speaker 1: So it's so funny because my family started to learn
35:15
Speaker 1: about all these things, especially my mom when I started
35:19
Speaker 1: to share my journey, she didn't know really what I
35:22
Speaker 1: was going through, and a lot of my family found out, like,
35:26
Speaker 1: oh my god, Massie was dealing with this and oh
35:28
Speaker 1: my god, Mossie was this yes, and they found out
35:32
Speaker 1: through social media.
35:33
Speaker 2: Do you remember that first conversation you had with your
35:36
Speaker 2: mom to actually address some of the things that had happened.
35:40
Speaker 1: She was so upset. She was so upset because she
35:43
Speaker 1: blames herself. Oh, I wasn't like she wasn't there for me.
35:48
Speaker 1: And it wasn't that I didn't want her to be
35:50
Speaker 1: there for me. It was like, I have so much
35:53
Speaker 1: respect for this woman who raised me. If I could
35:55
Speaker 1: be fifty percent of who my mother is, oh my god,
35:57
Speaker 1: I've accomplished a lot. She's amazing and it was my
36:01
Speaker 1: decision and she took it very personal. Our relationship is
36:05
Speaker 1: completely different now, it's she's my best friend. My family
36:08
Speaker 1: completely changed and we're open now. We're all the transition
36:12
Speaker 1: from what happened to my brother. It's made my family
36:16
Speaker 1: a lot more different, a lot healthier.
36:19
Speaker 3: Did he pass away, No, he's alive.
36:22
Speaker 1: My brother is a miracle. And I remember when we
36:28
Speaker 1: got the diagnosis that he was cancer free because he
36:32
Speaker 1: and let me read, let me use that word again
36:36
Speaker 1: about terminal stage four, stage four cancer and when he
36:46
Speaker 1: got better. This is going to sound crazy, but I
36:54
Speaker 1: remember my brother waking up one day and saying that
36:57
Speaker 1: he didn't want any treatment, that he felt this warm
37:03
Speaker 1: feeling in his stomach and that God had cured him,
37:08
Speaker 1: and that he didn't want any anything. He didn't want period.
37:15
Speaker 3: And when.
37:19
Speaker 1: When the doctors did cat scans, they realized that the
37:24
Speaker 1: tumors that were at some point the size of a baseball,
37:28
Speaker 1: and they were shrinking with the treatment because he got radiation.
37:32
Speaker 1: He had multiple treatments for his cancer with chemo, and
37:38
Speaker 1: chemo is pretty much poisoned in your body. So when
37:43
Speaker 1: they did a cat scan, they realized, oh my god,
37:46
Speaker 1: these tumors that were the size of a golf ball,
37:50
Speaker 1: it's just the scars. So to me, my brother is
37:55
Speaker 1: a miracle, and to me it brought a lot of hope.
37:58
Speaker 1: So my family completed letely changed. The whole family completely
38:03
Speaker 1: changed because this, to us was a miracle.
38:06
Speaker 2: I know something else that for sure has changed you forever,
38:09
Speaker 2: the birth of your daughter. When you were pregnant with
38:13
Speaker 2: your daughter, talk about photos that went viral.
38:15
Speaker 3: Obviously, I don't need to tell you twice.
38:18
Speaker 2: You still having you know, visible abs while being pregnant.
38:22
Speaker 2: I'm sure the feedback that you got at that time,
38:26
Speaker 2: so much of it unsolicited, couldn't have been easy to navigate.
38:33
Speaker 1: You know, my pregnancy was very controversial in a sense that,
38:39
Speaker 1: let me be straight with you, humans, modern humans, we're
38:43
Speaker 1: not supposed to be sitting We're not supposed to be
38:46
Speaker 1: driving for hours and cars. We're not supposed to be
38:48
Speaker 1: sitting in front of computers. We are persistent hunters. So
38:52
Speaker 1: when the hunter gatherer days you had pregnant women, it
38:56
Speaker 1: doesn't matter even if they just gave birth and they
39:00
Speaker 1: had to migrate every single day five to six miles.
39:05
Speaker 1: Men used to travel eleven twelve miles to hunt. So
39:09
Speaker 1: we're creatures that are made to move. And when I
39:15
Speaker 1: got pregnant, I remember I found out that I was
39:18
Speaker 1: pregnant once I pretty much collapsed on a tough mutter.
39:21
Speaker 1: Right at the end, I said, oh my god, this
39:24
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like Massie, what is happening. Turns out the
39:27
Speaker 1: next day I took a pregnancy test because my period
39:30
Speaker 1: was late, and boom, I'm pregnant. So my pregnancy. I
39:37
Speaker 1: never every single post that I make, it's never too
39:42
Speaker 1: with the intention of making people feel that I'm better
39:46
Speaker 1: than them, or that I'm doing things right. I do
39:49
Speaker 1: things my way, and I was at the top of
39:54
Speaker 1: my fitness. I couldn't be any healthier, any more powerful
40:01
Speaker 1: when I got pregnant with Indie. So I just carried
40:04
Speaker 1: that through my entire pregnancy. I never stopped moving on
40:09
Speaker 1: days that I would feel bad, nauseous, whatever, I know
40:13
Speaker 1: what made me feel good and that was movement. So
40:15
Speaker 1: I would force myself to get in a little elliptical
40:18
Speaker 1: work to feel great. And I never stopped. I never
40:22
Speaker 1: stopped my routines and I consulted with my midwife. Everything
40:26
Speaker 1: was just going normal. I never experienced any symptoms that
40:34
Speaker 1: are associated with having high inflammation, having unhealthy foods, no
40:43
Speaker 1: dys minorehea, no hemorrhoids, no bleeding gums. I had literally
40:50
Speaker 1: a healthy pregnancy with known of the known pregnancy symptoms
40:59
Speaker 1: that people have. I educated myself a lot. I am someone.
41:05
Speaker 1: I mean, I can turn this computer around and you
41:07
Speaker 1: see all these books. So not only did I educate
41:10
Speaker 1: myself month to month because I wanted to have a
41:14
Speaker 1: really healthy pregnancy and if I actually was the healthiest
41:17
Speaker 1: when I was with in me because everything that I
41:19
Speaker 1: would eat, I knew that it would affect her right.
41:24
Speaker 1: So I had a very controversial pregnancy. Some days where
41:29
Speaker 1: really just frustrating because people are just very judgmental, and
41:34
Speaker 1: when you're opening yourself to a global audience, you're going
41:37
Speaker 1: to be opening yourself to a lot of opinions by
41:41
Speaker 1: people that don't know the actual situation that you're living in.
41:44
Speaker 1: So it was pretty I just posted my pictures saying, yes,
41:48
Speaker 1: I still have a six I still had a six pack.
41:51
Speaker 1: I was like six almost six months, and you still
41:53
Speaker 1: see a two pack. I popped I think a week
41:59
Speaker 1: before seven months. And that was a lot of controversy.
42:04
Speaker 1: But it shouldn't be because when you or I guess
42:07
Speaker 1: it should be because it's not the norm, you know.
42:10
Speaker 1: But he taught a lot of people, Ay, you can
42:13
Speaker 1: you can actually have a really healthy pregnancy and you
42:17
Speaker 1: can still continue if you had already a certain activity
42:23
Speaker 1: level or a certain performance peak, you can still continue.
42:30
Speaker 1: Once she was born and she was healthy, and the
42:32
Speaker 1: way that I transitioned that postpartum process, it was really hard.
42:39
Speaker 1: I think people saw, Okay, she's not bragging about a
42:43
Speaker 1: six pack. She actually, you know, did the things that
42:46
Speaker 1: she needed to do based on her condition at that time.
42:50
Speaker 1: The fact that she was healthy and didn't have any issues,
42:53
Speaker 1: and people respected that once she was born.
42:58
Speaker 2: How do you brush off the negative when it was
43:01
Speaker 2: just like ever present during like months, five months, six
43:05
Speaker 2: month seven of your pregnancy.
43:09
Speaker 1: I realized there's a book that I love that I
43:12
Speaker 1: would recommend anyone to read. And the book is by
43:19
Speaker 1: David Foster Wallace. This is water. I understand that people
43:26
Speaker 1: may have different opinions different experiences, have had different experiences,
43:33
Speaker 1: and when you're open to a global audience, You're just
43:36
Speaker 1: going to have opinions. And I've come to terms with that,
43:40
Speaker 1: and I don't let it impact me in a negative
43:45
Speaker 1: way because I know who I am and I know
43:48
Speaker 1: my intentions, and someone who doesn't know me is just
43:52
Speaker 1: portraying their own insecurities onto me. I understood that from
43:56
Speaker 1: a very long time that people actually showcase their insecurities
44:01
Speaker 1: onto others, and doesn't face me.
44:05
Speaker 2: Love that feedback. Okay, so in your life right now,
44:09
Speaker 2: what excites you.
44:11
Speaker 1: Seeing my daughter grow? It excites me because I can
44:18
Speaker 1: I'm literally shaping a meaning me, just like my mom
44:23
Speaker 1: shaped a meaning her. You know what excites me is
44:30
Speaker 1: all of the all of the attention that this pandemic
44:39
Speaker 1: has brought to health and wellness. That excites me because
44:43
Speaker 1: I feel like consumers are going to get a lot
44:45
Speaker 1: more educated educated. What excites me expanding my business. One
44:51
Speaker 1: of the things that I've wanted to do for a
44:53
Speaker 1: very long time, and now I'm at a point where
44:56
Speaker 1: I can do that, has been making my fitness accessible
45:01
Speaker 1: to everyone and creating I'm in the process of creating
45:06
Speaker 1: or getting to the finish line a app and a
45:10
Speaker 1: web app, and I know that there's a million in
45:12
Speaker 1: one apps out there, but this is something that I've
45:15
Speaker 1: been working very hard on and it's going to offer
45:20
Speaker 1: people education and the right tools from actual professionals. One
45:28
Speaker 1: of the questions that I had here on this as
45:33
Speaker 1: preparation was what's the one advice that was given to
45:39
Speaker 1: you the best advice I was given to you personally
45:41
Speaker 1: or professionally, And one of them is when you know better,
45:45
Speaker 1: do better. So I know that I can my forte
45:52
Speaker 1: is what I do. But there's so many different aspects
45:56
Speaker 1: of health and wellness that I'm not an expert in.
46:00
Speaker 1: So when you think about health and wellness in the
46:04
Speaker 1: medical field or just the health industry, I can tell
46:11
Speaker 1: you that based on the access that I have because
46:15
Speaker 1: my money goes into my body. I much rather go
46:18
Speaker 1: to the best specialist and energy so that I can
46:21
Speaker 1: have good energy levels. Being that I do so much
46:25
Speaker 1: and I have to come home to a full toddler
46:28
Speaker 1: who needs my energy, I much rather spend my money
46:31
Speaker 1: working with an energy doctor instead of buying me a
46:34
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars bag. So it's always been me and
46:37
Speaker 1: I know that this type of holistic health is very
46:42
Speaker 1: expensive for a lot of people. So we've been in
46:47
Speaker 1: development for a year and a half now of this
46:51
Speaker 1: platform that is going to offer not only just workouts
46:55
Speaker 1: and healthy eating, it's going to offer professionals that are
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Speaker 1: that are helping those who cannot afford a holistic doctor
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Speaker 1: or who don't even know where to get the write
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Speaker 1: information because now you know information is you have to
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Speaker 1: fact check everything right. And there's a lot of miscommunication
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Speaker 1: and not miscommunications, miseducation in the health and wellness space.
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Speaker 3: That's exciting. That's a big deal. On a year and
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Speaker 3: a half, it's a long time coming.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a lot of moving pieces. And like
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Speaker 1: I shared with you, I say, single mom, there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of people that don't know how many hats I
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Speaker 1: have to put on, and it's been This is probably
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Speaker 1: one of my proudest moments, besides having Indie, being able
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Speaker 1: to do this with my child, being a single mom,
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Speaker 1: and just being a boss.
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Speaker 2: I love these vibes. Okay, I'm winding you down here
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Speaker 2: right now. As a boss, you have an opportunity to
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Speaker 2: offer yourself a piece of advice looking back on those
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Speaker 2: darker years, those years where you're staying in one room
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Speaker 2: all day, struggling through that depression. You have an opportunity
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Speaker 2: right now to offer her a piece of advice. What
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Speaker 2: do you tell her?
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Speaker 1: We never lose, either we win or we learn. That
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Speaker 1: has been one quote that I've used for so many years.
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't feel fear anymore. You can tell
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Speaker 1: me MASSI we want to go to the moon, and
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Speaker 1: I would say, well, let's get to work. Let's work
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Speaker 1: on a sustainable plan to get to the moon and
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Speaker 1: how we're going to get there. I've never let fear,
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Speaker 1: well now, transition, I don't let fear stop me from
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Speaker 1: doing anything that I want. And it's always been that's
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Speaker 1: how I build pretty much my brand. I have no fear.
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Speaker 1: I know what it is to feel like you don't
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Speaker 1: want to live. Therefore, nothing else brings me fear. I've
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Speaker 1: already reached a point where if I don't do something different,
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Speaker 1: I will not be here today. Therefore, anything that I
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Speaker 1: have ahead of me is it's nothing. I know that
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Speaker 1: I can accomplish it little by little, even if it
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Speaker 1: takes me my whole life getting it done. At least
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Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm living my life with purpose. You never lose,
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Speaker 1: either you win or you learn.
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Speaker 2: Lassie, thank you so much, so much, so much for
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Speaker 2: your time today. What an incredible story. How do the
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Speaker 2: hurdlers keep up with you? How do they follow along
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Speaker 2: with you? Give me all of your details.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm on every social media platform Instagram as masiariusmes
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Speaker 1: why i aias launching soon my app. You're going to
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Speaker 1: see everything on the website massiires dot com. You can
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Speaker 1: follow me on YouTube. There's a lot of amazing content.
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Speaker 1: You can follow me anywhere, like literally everywhere, and there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of things that we're preparing and coming to
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Speaker 1: the future. So thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 1: And I just want to end this by telling whoever
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Speaker 1: is listening that if you are in any situation, where
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Speaker 1: you think that your environment and you cannot get out
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Speaker 1: of your environment. You can get out of your environment.
50:35
Speaker 1: Assess what is anchoring you. Assess the toxic people and
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Speaker 1: the toxic behaviors and the toxic choices, and you have
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Speaker 1: the ability to turn that around. And don't let your
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Speaker 1: goals or that one dream you have detear you from
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Speaker 1: accomplish it because it looks so big, so far from you.
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Speaker 1: Life is not a race. Life is a marathon, and
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Speaker 1: you tackle it every single day, one step at a time.
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Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for your energy and your vibe. I'm
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Speaker 2: over at Emilia Body and at Hurdle Podcast. Another Hurdle conquered.
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Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time.