Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / Stop Selling "Vibes": Why Emotions Don't Close Deals
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- 0:01Today on the podcast, we are going to continue our
- 0:05conversations with the Tech Bro series.
- 0:08If this is your first time listening to the podcast, this
- 0:10is me running commentary on a video of that I saw a couple of
- 0:15weeks ago where a popular personality in the tech space in
- 0:22Nigeria was speaking at a tech conference in Lagos.
- 0:26And in that particular segment, he was talking to people who
- 0:29have a start up idea on who want to take new stuff out into the
- 0:34market. He said a couple of things about
- 0:38what they have to expect when it comes to sales and marketing.
- 0:42And I have been making a series of commentaries on his all essay
- 0:50on his presentation. So I've been talking about
- 0:52things that he got right, things that he could have phrased a bit
- 0:56better, and then giving you guys a much more robust framework or
- 1:03robust perspective on what to expect when it comes to sales
- 1:06and marketing. And so today what we're going to
- 1:09be looking at is, so excuse me, popular ideas around selling or
- 1:15popular selling tactics, because he spoke about a couple of
- 1:19popular selling tactics. And unfortunately some of the
- 1:23tactics that he spoke about are not very helpful.
- 1:28But people talk about these things a lot in Nigeria.
- 1:32And some of you are running around trying to sell using
- 1:36these ideas or using these tactics that are not very
- 1:39helpful. And two of them in particular
- 1:42are selling by using features. You talk about the feature of a
- 1:45thing and then you use that thing to try and convince
- 1:48somebody to buy. So back to my the idea that I've
- 1:53been caught on for a very long time now, which is the Tesla
- 1:58Cybertruck. So you will now be on this whole
- 2:01kick about, you know, the features.
- 2:03Oh, it's driverless, it's battery, it's this, it's that
- 2:05you're using the feature of the thing to try and sell the thing.
- 2:10So that is features based selling.
- 2:12And then he also spoke a bit about using emotions to sell.
- 2:15And there are lots of people who run around and try to use
- 2:18emotions to sell. I have noticed in particular
- 2:22people who are into the skin care and beauty industry, you
- 2:25try and use emotions to sell a lot.
- 2:30So yeah, we're going to be looking at popular ideas when it
- 2:33comes to selling in Niger, especially feature based selling
- 2:37and trying to use emotions to sell.
- 2:39So we're going to freestyle on some of these issues now.
- 2:44If you love talking about these sorts of things, you like
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- 2:53If you wake up every day and you think, how am I supposed to
- 2:55sell? How do I use the features of my
- 2:57product or my service to sell? How do I use emotions in my
- 3:01selling? How do I get people emotionally
- 3:03captivated? How do I dial up my emotions or
- 3:06how do I dial down my emotions? Share anything that has to do
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- 3:370806466 2140. So again today popular ideas
- 3:47around sales or popular selling tactics in Niger.
- 3:52Now one of them is features. If you have listened to the
- 3:55broadcast episode from yesterday or maybe the day before, you
- 3:58remember that I said this guy stood up on stage and then he
- 4:01gave people a selling challenge, which is not very helpful, which
- 4:04was sell me this laptop. Some of you, maybe I've never
- 4:07heard that before, but the more popular one is sell me this pen.
- 4:11You know, you're networking. Somebody says, well, I'm good at
- 4:14sales and say you're good at sales IB, you know, remove your
- 4:17pen from your pocket and say, why sell me this pen?
- 4:20I think it's a good way to gauge whether somebody's without
- 4:23selling or not. Now, if you didn't listen to
- 4:26yesterday's episode, what you would like to know whether this
- 4:30is a useful exercise to go through when you are teaching
- 4:33someone to sell or when you're trying to train your sales team
- 4:36to sell or when you're trying to figure out if somebody's good
- 4:39enough to sell on your behalf, then please listen to
- 4:42yesterday's episode. Let me give you a spoiler.
- 4:46It's not a helpful exercise. It is useful under some
- 4:50circumstances and usually in the hands of a professional who has
- 4:55devoted his time and devoted his life or her life to learning
- 5:01these sorts of things. So you learn when it can be
- 5:04helpful, when it can be helpful. So yesterday, Abby?
- 5:11Yeah. I think yesterday or the day
- 5:12before. Yeah.
- 5:13So how will I put it? OK, in the review that I did
- 5:20yesterday or the day before, that's when I introduced you
- 5:22guys to this idea. Sell me this laptop or sell me
- 5:25this pen. Now, the version that he did was
- 5:27sell me this laptop. And eventually he found somebody
- 5:31who was successful at selling a laptop in 20 seconds.
- 5:35I think, by the way, this is not realistic because this is
- 5:39another thing that you guys need to know when it comes to when
- 5:45you're trying to sell something that you are still at talking
- 5:48stage or theoretical stage, you can sell anything and somebody
- 5:51will say yes. Whether somebody would actually
- 5:55drop money, part money, pay for The thing is another thing
- 6:00entirely. So yes, in a mock up session,
- 6:03you can get somebody in 20 seconds to agree, yes, I'll buy
- 6:06that laptop. But whether you can sell a
- 6:08laptop in 20 seconds in real life is another matter entirely.
- 6:14So please, when you are when you attend any of these sessions and
- 6:19you see people pull off some of these exercises and you know,
- 6:24they sell a car in one minute or something on stage, just know
- 6:27we're still in the realm of fury.
- 6:31When we get to the level of practicality, you know, things
- 6:33work a little bit different or sure for the sake of it, let's
- 6:36just agree that the guy was able to sell the laptop in 20
- 6:40seconds. So the conversation followed how
- 6:44did you sell the laptop and was very easy.
- 6:47The guy said all he had to do was he mentioned that the laptop
- 6:50is good for note taking because he noticed that the person that
- 6:54he was trying to sell to was taking note with a pen and a
- 6:57paper. Then he also said that buying a
- 7:02laptop would make more sense because of a cloud computing.
- 7:06So because notes can be synced to the cloud, the person
- 7:10wouldn't run the risk of losing her diary.
- 7:14And so that is how he sold the laptop.
- 7:17He sold it using the features that this thing is good at note
- 7:21taking and this thing has cloud computing embedded in it.
- 7:25Therefore it's a good idea to sell sorry to buy.
- 7:30So you can see now the level of theory, it makes sense.
- 7:32Abby, it's easy for you to say, Oh yeah, sure, I'll go ahead and
- 7:36I'll buy it. But whether in real life at that
- 7:39point, because somebody said no taking and cloud computing, you
- 7:42would turn over 450,000 and buy the computer, that's something
- 7:45else entirely different. Oh, by the way, features.
- 7:48Now when we say features, we just mean a part of something.
- 7:52So for instance, over here in my living room, I have a Benatone.
- 7:56I can't remember what model it is.
- 7:58Benatone something something only buy Benatone products.
- 8:03Don't ask me why when we're little.
- 8:05And then we moved to Lagos because NEPA was really, really
- 8:08terrible in Lagos when we moved there back in my teenage years
- 8:14back in the military era. So we had been atone stabilizers
- 8:19and like been atone electric ions.
- 8:22So I just go to the Abdul behind been a torture.
- 8:24So there's been atone here in my house and it's one of these
- 8:29banner toes that has, you know, like 3 blazing at the back and
- 8:32then like 4 small blaze in the front.
- 8:35Now that is a feature. I don't know what, you know,
- 8:39that feature. So excuse me, I don't know what
- 8:41that feature is called, but having multiple blades, you
- 8:44know, that's a feature. Then whether your fan is 3
- 8:47speed, 4 speed, 5 speed, that's another feature.
- 8:51Let's see what else? OK, the different kinds of base,
- 8:53somehow circular base, somehow star base, that is also a
- 8:57feature. Let's see, what else?
- 9:00What else can I think of? Well, you get my point.
- 9:02So when we say the feature of a product or a service, you know,
- 9:05that's what we mean. The constituent parts of the
- 9:08thing that make it up. OK.
- 9:10Yeah. OK.
- 9:10What's have ATV here? The Panasonic TV.
- 9:14It's not a smart TV. That's because at the time,
- 9:17because this TV, the TV soldier, I think I bought it when we
- 9:21still had like our first born. So this meant TV is old TV.
- 9:25Don't try it out. But it's not a smart TV because
- 9:27back then I didn't realize what the smart TV was and I didn't
- 9:30see the point in buying a smart TV.
- 9:33But yeah, this particular Panasonic TV that I have here in
- 9:38the house, we can hook up. I think it has like 4 USB slots,
- 9:44so you can hook up flash drives. That is a feature.
- 9:48The number of USB slots that he has.
- 9:51Then it also has a HDMI plug in HDMI slots.
- 9:57So you can use HDMI, connect your DSTV, connect your
- 9:59computer, connect a bunch of stuff.
- 10:02So the number of HDMI cables, that is also a feature.
- 10:05Then this technology is old. It's it's a flat screen, but
- 10:10it's LED, yes, LED. So that is also a feature,
- 10:15whether it's LED or whether it's AMOLED or, you know, all those
- 10:19different things. That's a feature because modern
- 10:21T VS are I think they're more curved, you know, whether they
- 10:25curve inward or the curved outwards.
- 10:27So, you know, do you think curves for, you know, 360
- 10:32panoramic viewing, blah, blah, blah, you know, all those things
- 10:34that TV people say that is the feature.
- 10:37So you can see what we mean when we say feature based selling.
- 10:42You're trying to sell your product, you're trying to sell
- 10:44your service, but you're hinging it on the features.
- 10:47So you're talking to somebody you're just pushing Bam bam bam
- 10:50feature feature feature the best, the brightest, the
- 10:54fastest, the this the that. So if it is TV, you'll be saying
- 10:59Bros forget LED this one AMOLED. Check out the corvatures.
- 11:02He has the team just called. He has the team fine, blah blah
- 11:06blah, megapixel HDTV something something almost see the thing
- 11:11now see the number of flash drives that you can put in this
- 11:13thing. Come and see HDMI port blah,
- 11:16blah, blah, this and this wireless connectivity something
- 11:20something uh huh. So when you're toasting somebody
- 11:22to buy the TV that is feature based selling and the guy who
- 11:29successfully sold a laptop at that event, remember Nathurio is
- 11:34just is just now role play. It's not as if it really, really
- 11:39happened. What the guy did was feature
- 11:41based selling. Now, is feature based selling a
- 11:48convincing way to go about selling?
- 11:51The answer is it depends. And for those of you who
- 11:55listened to yesterday's episode, or maybe the episode the day
- 11:59before when I was talking about why these selling exercises are
- 12:03not helpful, you remember that I said that the two things you
- 12:09need to sell, number one is understanding value #2 is
- 12:12communicating value. And that understanding value
- 12:16means you're able to figure out what does this person want?
- 12:20What does this person think is important?
- 12:22Why does this person think it is important?
- 12:24What are the goals the person is trying to achieve?
- 12:27What is the vision that the person has?
- 12:29What, where is this person running from?
- 12:31Where are they going to? That is what will determine the
- 12:35features that you will play up or that you will play down.
- 12:42So feature based selling is not a bad idea in itself.
- 12:45But if you don't know what to understand value, you'll be
- 12:47wasting your time talking about features that people do not care
- 12:51about. So feature based selling in
- 12:54itself, you know bad, it's not bad at all, but you need to
- 12:59learn how to engage with somebody 1st and listen to
- 13:02somebody first so that you know which features that you need to
- 13:06play up. So for somebody like me who does
- 13:10everything on the phone, you can be talking about AMOLED
- 13:14connectivity, something something smart TV, blah, blah,
- 13:17blah. Like, you know, me because I
- 13:19don't watch TVI don't, I don't. But for somebody who, because
- 13:26you know, there's some people like that, like my brother.
- 13:28Now for instance, you know my brother, hook up the TV, go
- 13:32relax, dim the lights, you know, get some nice Brandy and then be
- 13:39streaming the FIFA match live. If it's not available live.
- 13:44He has those piracy sites that he goes to so that he can be
- 13:48streaming all the match. It doesn't matter who is playing
- 13:50or where they're playing. Even if the FIFA match is on the
- 13:53moon, my brother will find it, stream it on our TV, dim the
- 13:58light, blow AC, have a nice bottle of Brandy, puts on ice
- 14:02cubes inside. Now relax himself, if you are
- 14:05selling smart TV to someone like my brother, if you understand
- 14:11the value that he's going for, you will now be able to lean in
- 14:15Features, features, features. So feature based selling, it's
- 14:23not bad, but still the paramount skill that you need before you
- 14:29start thinking of which feature to talk about is understanding
- 14:33value. Who are you talking to?
- 14:36What do they like? What do they value?
- 14:39What do they want? What do they desire?
- 14:42What are they afraid of? Where are they running to?
- 14:45What are they running from? What is their problem?
- 14:50What is their main issue? What is their desire?
- 14:56Future based selling is only possible if you know how to
- 15:00understand value. So you can see that all these
- 15:04people, all these events that you're attending, they're
- 15:08talking about how you should talk about features, features,
- 15:10features. You can say they're not helping
- 15:11your life because I'm not even telling you the thing that is
- 15:14instrumental to the thing that is foundational to before you
- 15:17start talking about features. So for those of you who are that
- 15:23event and you're impressed that somebody spoke about note taking
- 15:26and cloud computing, I used it to sell a computer.
- 15:29Because of that, you now think that every single time you want
- 15:33to sell a computer, you will talk about note taking and
- 15:37cloud, cloud computing. You think that that's the magic
- 15:41that will help you sell your computer.
- 15:43You find out the hard way that man, it's not necessarily the
- 15:48case. So what about emotions now?
- 15:51Because we also talk about selling using emotions.
- 15:55Now, I admit, emotions are a useful dynamic to have.
- 16:00You can use emotions to, you know, make things nice and
- 16:04smooth. And also emotions can also kind
- 16:07of hinder the thing. But The thing is, whether people
- 16:13buy or don't buy, emotions are not causative in themselves.
- 16:18It is not the emotion itself that is causing the person to
- 16:21buy or emotion that is making the person not to buy.
- 16:27It can hasten things or it can slow things down.
- 16:30Was not as if that's the primary thing.
- 16:36If you are wondering what is the main thing you have to pay
- 16:40attention to before you start thinking about engaging emotions
- 16:43or not, then you've not been listening to me.
- 16:46For those of you who've been listening to me, you already
- 16:48know what I'm going to say next. That understanding value is the
- 16:52main thing you should be paying attention to. 1 moment.
- 16:56Let me turn off my alarm. So I'm really sorry about that.
- 17:02OK, 17 minutes only to make sure that this today's podcast
- 17:05episode wouldn't last for too long.
- 17:06That's why I left. I set the alarm.
- 17:09So understanding value, that's the main thing.
- 17:12Because only when you understand value, right, that you will know
- 17:16which emotions to push. If you try and understand value,
- 17:23what do they like, what they don't like?
- 17:24This and this and that and that. It is then you now know which
- 17:28emotions to push, where to stoke emotions, where to reduce
- 17:32emotions. I'm hoping you guys get my
- 17:35point. So if there's plenty of fear in
- 17:39the situation, then you now start, you now start talking
- 17:43about a risk mitigation strategies.
- 17:46Risk mitigation strategies are all, I put it, OK, about to buy
- 17:49something. And the person is, you know, the
- 17:54guided fear to the fear risk mitigation is where you start
- 17:59trying to say that oh, Sir, yes or Madam, yes.
- 18:02Ordinarily in this situation and this situation, these are the
- 18:05kind of damages that can occur. However, with our product and
- 18:09our service, we have this feature, this feature that
- 18:13feature, this capability, that capability.
- 18:16And these are the things that mitigate these kind of things
- 18:19happening. And in fact, Sir, the last 100
- 18:23people that we've done business with, 98% of them did not have
- 18:28any of these problems occur at all.
- 18:31So Sir, it is almost virtually guaranteed that if you go ahead
- 18:34and buy this thing or go ahead and use it like this, like this,
- 18:38like that, you will not have this problem occur.
- 18:42So let's say in the solar space, of course, you know, back as a
- 18:47young lad, you know why we just moved to Lagos during our
- 18:50military era, you know, not be everybody here solar back in the
- 18:53day. And of course all those who used
- 18:55to have solar, we always used to hear that social and so-called
- 18:58solar and then next thing fire, the house burned down.
- 19:03So even though it's been a very long time and the technology has
- 19:08changed over the last, you know, 20-30 years, there are still
- 19:12people who anytime you say solar, you'll say because when
- 19:16they hear solar, they think fire that also burned down.
- 19:21So you can see that there there's fear in the situation.
- 19:25The guy don't they fear because he knows that Al Haji so, so, so
- 19:29and so did solar. In 1995, the house burned down.
- 19:34Then Hajiya Rukaiat did solar in 1998, her house burned down.
- 19:42Then Al Haji Lamido did solar in 2001 and then his house burned
- 19:49down. So personally, you're talking to
- 19:52the person solar. Every time you mention solar,
- 19:54the person hears fire, fire, fire, fire.
- 19:57So there's fear. If you are good at understanding
- 20:03value, asking some questions, leaning into it, trying to find
- 20:06out what happened with the Alhaji Lamido, Haji Arukayat and
- 20:11the rest of them, you understand this is a really problem,
- 20:15problematic issue. It is.
- 20:17Then you can now start talking about.
- 20:19The different safety features that modern solar systems have,
- 20:25I was I think called the ZDCDC switch.
- 20:28I'll be something there's one switch in which are that trips
- 20:31off whenever current is supposed to go too high or too low.
- 20:34You now start talking about all those features and you're trying
- 20:38to use emotions Now you're trying to inspire confidence in
- 20:42the situation, but it's only because you're paying attention,
- 20:46you're understanding value, you know what it is that they are
- 20:48running away from. So you know which emotions
- 20:51you're trying to play up in this case or in some other
- 20:55situations, the kind of emotions that you are trying to tap down.
- 21:01So if the person to the fear will now be doing risk
- 21:04mitigation, it was this situation of, you know, pride
- 21:08or, you know, formal, then you know that you play off some
- 21:11features and, you know, because you're trying to show the status
- 21:14of the something. So somebody like my brother.
- 21:16Now, by the way, don't try search my brother because, you
- 21:21know, his kids are teenagers now.
- 21:23Yeah, he's my younger brother. See, this is the benefit of
- 21:25starting on time. His benefit of starting on time
- 21:29when it comes to marriage and kids.
- 21:31I talked to young men. Now they say that that chasing
- 21:34the bag. They're chasing the bag.
- 21:35I said chasing which bag, Like now is the time.
- 21:39Find you a nice girl, propose, get married and start early.
- 21:45Because trying to be doing school runs when you're in your
- 21:4940s and your 50s is hard. When your 40s and your 50s,
- 21:54that's the time when, like my brother, you're supposed to be
- 21:57navigating university level. So please or you guys, you are
- 22:07afraid, like what are you afraid of?
- 22:09Marriage has its difficulties, but the way that the fear that
- 22:13people are carrying in your heart is not that big.
- 22:17Really. It's not that big, babes.
- 22:21People are afraid of losing sovereignty, losing
- 22:24independence, but like your fears are too big.
- 22:27It's not that deep. It's not that deep.
- 22:29And then guys, you don't want to have somebody that's a dependent
- 22:32on you or something, something. And what if you make a wrong
- 22:34choice? You don't mind the love of your
- 22:36life. You are thinking this thing too
- 22:38big. It's not that big.
- 22:40It's not that deep. You guys should relax and take
- 22:43it from me. I'm talking from experience.
- 22:46Soon I'll have to wrap this thing up and I'll have to go for
- 22:49primary school runs. You know, my brother doesn't
- 22:51care. He can relax at home.
- 22:55His daughters will take care of themselves because they're
- 22:58teenagers. They sort themselves out. 7:30
- 23:02in the morning, my brother is working.
- 23:04Meanwhile, 7:30 in the morning I'm still stuck in traffic doing
- 23:07school rolls. Because by the time you have
- 23:09university age kids like waiting concern you.
- 23:11You don't want to go for lecture, they will go if they
- 23:13don't want to go, it's their problem.
- 23:18I was like, so I was just trying to say that don't try and sell
- 23:22my brother because you know, university level children.
- 23:24So you know, he's not as if money full ground right now, but
- 23:31where was I? I have formal and empride.
- 23:35So since he's a football guy and TV as an important part of his
- 23:40life and enjoyment and flexing schedule, if you're talking to
- 23:45somebody like him, if you've been able to do understanding
- 23:49value very well, you understand what's important to him when it
- 23:52comes to a home entertainment system because at that level you
- 23:55don't call it TV. Again, it is home entertainment
- 23:58system by the way, it's not just the TV.
- 24:01The TV should be connected to the subwoofer, should be
- 24:04connected to the speaker, should be connected to the surround
- 24:06sound so that when somebody's calls go, the whole house going
- 24:11to vibrate with the quality of the rich sound, cinematic
- 24:16quality sound. Those of you who sell TV, listen
- 24:19up very well. Listen up, listen up.
- 24:23So if it's this kind of thing, you know where the person is
- 24:27coming from, like it's a thing of pride and for more is
- 24:30involved, fear of missing out because you'll be somehow you
- 24:33are enjoying your home system, but you go to your friend's
- 24:38house, all of them, they have the home system of 20252026.
- 24:42You're still using your own from 1998 is somehow now.
- 24:46So the emotions in now that you'll now be playing up there
- 24:50will now be something of pride and you're a big boy now.
- 24:55You don't pass this level. The OK, you can't be using
- 24:59system of 1998 when the era of AMOLED when the era of 2025
- 25:06already they don't they release 2026 specs.
- 25:10Those ones are coming out next year is an Olga.
- 25:14You're too big for this. You're a big boy.
- 25:16You're playing up the emotion, you're playing up the pride.
- 25:21But that only works if you have done a good idea at
- 25:25understanding value first, so you even know what you're
- 25:29playing up or which emotions you're trying to tap down.
- 25:35So as a good rule, if you want to be one of those emotional
- 25:38sellers, find out what people are emotionally attached to 1st.
- 25:44Then you can now start worrying about how am I going to throw
- 25:48emotions into the mix so that I can secure this sale.
- 25:51I repeat, if you insist you want to be one of those people who
- 25:55like to sell using emotions don't come in all emotional.
- 26:01Relax first find out what the person you're talking to is
- 26:06emotionally attached to in their everyday life or in the use of
- 26:10this product or the service. Then you will know what emotions
- 26:13that you're going to play up. Summary, in case you haven't
- 26:18gotten it from this podcast episode and he didn't get it
- 26:22from last podcast episode. What I'm trying to say is forget
- 26:26all these tips and tricks and everything.
- 26:30The key thing is understanding value first.
- 26:33Forget the tactics. Tactics are secondary.
- 26:36Learn how to understand value 1st.
- 26:39And if you want to learn how to solve from anyone, forget people
- 26:42who stand on stage and who keep talking about this tactic, this
- 26:45tactic, that tactic. Talk to people, follow people
- 26:50and listen to people who have a systems based approach of
- 26:54selling. Only the person is trying to
- 26:57tell teach you a system that looks selling is like this.
- 27:00There's a philosophy. These are the stages that are
- 27:03involved 12345 These are how the stages fit together.
- 27:07This is what underpins all the stages.
- 27:10These are the contexts where this will work.
- 27:12These are the contexts where that is not going to work.
- 27:14That is the person you should pay attention to.
- 27:17Anybody that is standing and talking about the top five
- 27:19gimmicks, the top 6, this, the top 2 trends or 2025, the top 2
- 27:25magic words that will help you triple your income in 2026.
- 27:28Please pay no attention to that person.
- 27:35Yeah, I said I was going to say something to those of you who
- 27:36sell skin care and makeup. So my sisters, those of you who
- 27:41try and sell skin care, who try and sell makeup, you notice you
- 27:44guys are really tired at the end of the day and it's emotionally
- 27:46exhausting. This is the reason why, because
- 27:49you're trying to sell using emotions.
- 27:51You're trying to sell by being happy and being excited and
- 27:55quite frankly, you're tired. Who won't be tired?
- 27:59You go on, you have 5 to 10 meetings every day and each time
- 28:01you're trying to sound excited on every single call.
- 28:04Nobody can be excited like that. Now.
- 28:07That's the reason why you're always tired.
- 28:10You come in, hello, chirpy brights everything.
- 28:13You know, I'm not saying that you should frown.
- 28:15I'm not saying you should squeeze your face.
- 28:18But before you're all chirpy and excited and everything, come in
- 28:21first and then understand value. What do they value?
- 28:25What are they running from? Where?
- 28:28What are they trying to achieve? Ask them questions.
- 28:34Oh, Madam, thank you very much for taking today's meeting.
- 28:36What were you hoping will be able to achieve?
- 28:39OK, that's no problem. I have a couple of samples here
- 28:41with the bag. But before we start looking at
- 28:43any particular things, can I ask you a couple of questions?
- 28:47Oh, I noticed those pictures. Oh, those are your babies.
- 28:49Oh, they're older now. OK, but your skin care routine
- 28:54when you were pregnant and, you know, before now, was there any
- 28:56change? Before, you had oily face, OK,
- 29:00Now you have dry skin. OK.
- 29:02Like, where is it? Everywhere in particular, then
- 29:05you ask them question on their face, their scalp, their money
- 29:07routine. You know, every, every, all
- 29:10these questions you're asking is not just MTGS.
- 29:12You're trying to figure out this woman's skin care history.
- 29:17What was her skin like before? What is her skin like now?
- 29:20What kind of cream is she currently using?
- 29:22The cream that she's using now, what's the problem?
- 29:25All this small talk, that is what you're trying to fish out
- 29:31this one. I'm talking from experience
- 29:33because my wife, she always likes looking for.
- 29:36So forgive me, you skin people. I know I'm going to say
- 29:38something that is wrong. Is it UPV 36 or something?
- 29:42I think UPV 36 is I'll be down on his sunscreen and there's up
- 29:47something UP50I know there's 1UP or UV or something that my wife
- 29:51likes to buy and that's because she says she has dry skin here.
- 29:54I believe she has oily skin here or something like that.
- 29:59So don't just come in all excited and you know, in the
- 30:02beginning, excuse me, you're, you're trying to come in with
- 30:05with, you know, happiness, excitement.
- 30:08Talk to the person first. When you now find out that the
- 30:11person like my wife is looking for UPV 36, I'll be UPV 60 or
- 30:15UX, whatever that thing is. Now you cannot be excited like
- 30:19wow. But I have some good news for
- 30:22you. What you're looking for, we
- 30:25actually have it is UPV blah blah blah.
- 30:29I've been able to sell it to 20 people this year and the report
- 30:33that I've gotten so far, 19 of them have not have any problems
- 30:36with it at all. The only person who had one
- 30:38problem is because she tried to combine it with Oroyo.
- 30:43Madam, I hope you don't use Oroyo.
- 30:45OK? Very good.
- 30:46In that case, there's no problem.
- 30:47The good thing about this UPV 36 is it is good for people who
- 30:51have oily skin or dry skin like your own and the way they use
- 30:55it. You combine it like this, you
- 30:56combine it like that. So Madam, I'm excited.
- 30:59I can really help you today solve this problem.
- 31:01In fact, Madam, I can assure you that by the time you finish with
- 31:04me today, you will not have to look anywhere else and talk to
- 31:07anybody at all for your skin care routine.
- 31:11Even if you Japan to Canada, Madam, we can still sort you out
- 31:14because I deliver to my clients international Mommy, I know I
- 31:18can help you. So before I put my bag and bring
- 31:21out these samples we have demo different price ranges from
- 31:24between 25K up on to 670 Ki Hope that's within your budget mark.
- 31:31Then hear what the person says because some people will say 20
- 31:35Ki was thinking 2K5. Now you know that this woman
- 31:39just leave. The cheapest thing you have is
- 31:4120 K. She says she's thinking 2K5.
- 31:43The gap is too much if you say you have between 20K and 670K
- 31:51and she was saying now my friend I'd be wrong here.
- 31:53She says she bought for 18/5. You can open your bag because
- 31:57the gap between 18, five and 20K is not that big.
- 32:00You can make something happen. You can get them to go from 18-5
- 32:04to 19. So that's how you do it.
- 32:12My makeup sisters. And that's the reason why you're
- 32:14always tired, because yesterday you had five visits.
- 32:17Each visit you came in. Oh wow, excitement, excitement.
- 32:21Happy, happy, happy, happy, happy.
- 32:23And then she didn't buy. You went to the next place.
- 32:25Oh, I'm excited, I'm happy. Acceptment, acceptment.
- 32:29She didn't buy. You did that five times.
- 32:33That's why you're always tired. So relax.
- 32:35It's not about emotions first. Go there, understanding, value.
- 32:39Try to understand what's going on with this woman.
- 32:41Skin walls, her skin like before.
- 32:43How is her skin like now? What is her skin routine like
- 32:45now? By the way, some people don't
- 32:47even have skin routine like me, I don't have skin routine.
- 32:50I just bath and I wear my clothes and I'm out.
- 32:54So you need to find out before you recommend something for
- 32:57somebody. So yeah, that's it.
- 33:02That's all for today. It's already 30 minutes.
- 33:05Let me not take this thing any longer.
- 33:07So for those of you who would love to connect, you have
- 33:11questions, you have comments, you have queries.
- 33:13You can call, send me a text message or WhatsApp message on
- 33:170806466 2140. So thank you very much for your
- 33:24time and attention. I will catch out the next
- 33:26episode. I think we have a few more
- 33:28things on this conversations with the tech bro.
- 33:32But so far, I hope you guys are feeling the flow and I hope
- 33:35you're getting the gist of what I'm saying.
- 33:39Excuse me of what I'm saying so far that yes, certain kinds of
- 33:42tips and tricks, yes, they are evolved, but there are some
- 33:45things that are fundamental to closing the sale.
- 33:47There's not everything that you hear somebody talk on the stage
- 33:52that this is how you sell. They take it as gospel truth.
- 33:56So listen to everybody's experiences when it comes to
- 33:58selling, yes, but pay attention to the professionals like us
- 34:06because we are the ones who will tell you what really works,
- 34:09when, how and under what circumstances.
- 34:13So thanks for your time and attention.
- 34:15I'll catch you some other time.