Latest / Hardiness with Dr Paul Taylor / Mojo Monday: Life Skills for Living Well - the Wisdom of Morita Therapy
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back to another episode of My Joe
- 0:11Speaker 1: Monday with me coach Khali. So today we're diving into
- 0:16Speaker 1: a fascinating and unique approach to mental health and well
- 0:19Speaker 1: being called Marita therapy, which is also something that I
- 0:23Speaker 1: am incredibly passionate about. And that is because since my
- 0:27Speaker 1: first introduction to Marita therapy back in twenty seventeen, it's
- 0:33Speaker 1: had an incredible positive impact on my own mental health
- 0:38Speaker 1: and well being, and it's also had such a positive
- 0:41Speaker 1: impact on many of my clients. So Marita therapy was
- 0:45Speaker 1: developed by a Japanese psychiatrist, Showma Marita in the early
- 0:50Speaker 1: twentieth century, and it's deeply rooted in Zen Buddhism. Marita
- 0:55Speaker 1: was a Zen Buddhist himself and he originally created it
- 1:00Speaker 1: to treat what is called shinkaitsu, which is a type
- 1:04Speaker 1: of anxiety neurosis. So many of his patients were suffering
- 1:09Speaker 1: from these neuroses. It was things like generalized anxiety disorder, phobias,
- 1:16Speaker 1: that sort of thing. And in saying that, over the years,
- 1:20Speaker 1: its principles have been adapted to help with a wide
- 1:22Speaker 1: range of emotional issues and to improve daily function, and
- 1:27Speaker 1: I think it's impacted me the most. It's been hugely
- 1:33Speaker 1: beneficial and understanding myself, understanding my thoughts, my emotions, and
- 1:39Speaker 1: my behaviors and approach these in a way that was
- 1:43Speaker 1: very different to how I had been living. So Marita
- 1:47Speaker 1: suggests that we have two conflicting agendas that he identifies
- 1:53Speaker 1: in human motivation. So according to Marita, we have two
- 1:57Speaker 1: opposing drives. So we have a desired live fully or
- 2:01Speaker 1: self actualize, which is living our full potential, and a
- 2:06Speaker 1: desire to maintain security and comfort. And I'm sure this
- 2:10Speaker 1: sounds familiar to many of you because it definitely I
- 2:14Speaker 1: can definitely relate to this. So think about it. When
- 2:17Speaker 1: you're pursuing something important like a career goal, or a
- 2:20Speaker 1: new relationship, or training for a half marathon, you're often
- 2:24Speaker 1: faced with doubt, discomfort, and insecurity, as well as excitement
- 2:31Speaker 1: and motivation to actually achieve these things. So that's where
- 2:35Speaker 1: these two opposing drives are. And what Marita noticed was
- 2:39Speaker 1: that the more we try to avoid the uncomfortable feelings,
- 2:43Speaker 1: the more they disrupted our lives. So it's like trying
- 2:47Speaker 1: to ignore as a mosquito bite, the more you scratch it,
- 2:50Speaker 1: the worse that it gets. And this brings us to
- 2:53Speaker 1: a key concept in Marita therapy called arugamama, which you
- 2:57Speaker 1: may have heard of because I talk about it a lot.
- 3:01Speaker 1: So Aragamama means accepting life as it is. It's all
- 3:06Speaker 1: about embracing the present moment without constantly comparing it to
- 3:11Speaker 1: this idealized version of how you think think things should be.
- 3:16Speaker 1: So often we are not happy with the way things
- 3:19Speaker 1: are in this moment, and we live in this state
- 3:23Speaker 1: of dissatisfaction of our current situation and thinking that once
- 3:28Speaker 1: we fix what's wrong, we'll finally be happy. And this
- 3:32Speaker 1: relates to our mental health. Is very much in the West,
- 3:35Speaker 1: where we feel that we need to get rid of symptoms.
- 3:38Speaker 1: We're very focused on symptoms and we need to get
- 3:41Speaker 1: rid of them before we can start to live a good,
- 3:44Speaker 1: meaningful life. But then when that future arrives, it's just
- 3:48Speaker 1: another present moment with its own set of challenges. So
- 3:51Speaker 1: Marita therapy teaches us to break free from this cycle
- 3:56Speaker 1: and find satisfaction in the present moment. So let's talk
- 4:01Speaker 1: now about the naturalness of feeling bad. So this may
- 4:06Speaker 1: be what you don't want to hear, but Marita observed
- 4:10Speaker 1: that it's perfectly normal to experience unpleasant thoughts and feelings
- 4:15Speaker 1: like anxiety or depression or self doubt, and the real
- 4:19Speaker 1: issue isn't these feelings themselves, but it's our attempts to
- 4:24Speaker 1: suppress or avoid them because they're so uncomfortable. So Marita
- 4:30Speaker 1: therapy helps us change our relationship with these feelings so
- 4:34Speaker 1: we accept them as a natural part of being human.
- 4:38Speaker 1: And this was a game change for me because my
- 4:42Speaker 1: life was so often dominated by trying to get rid
- 4:46Speaker 1: of my feelings or emotions if they were difficult, and
- 4:50Speaker 1: how I responded to this was often not aligned with
- 4:53Speaker 1: the person who I wanted to be or what I
- 4:55Speaker 1: stood for because I was so reactive to the emotion
- 5:01Speaker 1: and I would think or feel. I would just think,
- 5:03Speaker 1: and then I would feel, and then I would just act.
- 5:06Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't even think about it. I wouldn't
- 5:08Speaker 1: even think that there was an option. So allowing emotions
- 5:12Speaker 1: to always dictate what we do often means that we
- 5:15Speaker 1: either are living in the past or we're living in
- 5:18Speaker 1: the future, and it takes away from who we are
- 5:20Speaker 1: right now. So Marita emphasized that we can't control our
- 5:25Speaker 1: internal experiences through sheer will and putting our attention and
- 5:30Speaker 1: our energy on unwanted thoughts and feelings often backfires on
- 5:33Speaker 1: us because making the what it does is it makes
- 5:37Speaker 1: them even more intense and more frequent, because what you
- 5:40Speaker 1: pay attention to is what grows. Or what I often
- 5:43Speaker 1: say is it's like you put attention on these thoughts
- 5:47Speaker 1: and the feelings, and it's like throwing fuel on the
- 5:49Speaker 1: fire it grows. So instead, Marita therapy focuses on what
- 5:53Speaker 1: we can control, which is our actions and our behaviors.
- 5:58Speaker 1: And just on a side note, this is very much
- 6:00Speaker 1: aligned with epictetis, with a stoic philosopher with the zones
- 6:05Speaker 1: of controls, and it's also very much aligned with act
- 6:08Speaker 1: which I often consider being a kind of a Western
- 6:12Speaker 1: version of Marita therapy. And in all of these actions
- 6:17Speaker 1: are controllable, unlike our automatic thoughts and emotions. Our automatic
- 6:22Speaker 1: thoughts and emotions are a part of our brain wiring
- 6:26Speaker 1: from our past experiences, so they're very hard, if not impossible,
- 6:31Speaker 1: to control. So an example of this would be, and
- 6:36Speaker 1: it's quite a light example, but you might not feel
- 6:39Speaker 1: like going for a run, or you might not feel
- 6:41Speaker 1: like getting out of bed, but you can do it
- 6:44Speaker 1: despite how you feel and often taking action can actually
- 6:49Speaker 1: change how you feel. So for example, you might gain
- 6:52Speaker 1: confidence after giving a few presentations, even if you were
- 6:56Speaker 1: anxious at the start. And Marita therapy encourage us encourages
- 7:00Speaker 1: us to accept our feelings and take purposeful action regardless
- 7:05Speaker 1: of how we feel. And then, as I said, quite
- 7:08Speaker 1: often our feelings will change, but that's not the primary
- 7:11Speaker 1: motive of doing it. And another important aspect of Marita
- 7:16Speaker 1: therapy is around self centered attention, which includes our suffering,
- 7:22Speaker 1: So paying attention to our suffering. When we become so
- 7:26Speaker 1: preoccupied with ourselves, which seems to be quite a normal
- 7:30Speaker 1: human trait, so we're talking our anxiety, our worry, our shame,
- 7:36Speaker 1: what our symptoms are. We often get trapped in this
- 7:39Speaker 1: cycle of suffering, and Marita teaches us to shift our
- 7:44Speaker 1: focus or shift our attention from ourselves and this self
- 7:49Speaker 1: centeredness to the outside world. So being present, getting in
- 7:55Speaker 1: touch with the world around us, especially the natural world
- 7:59Speaker 1: around us, it can really break us free from the
- 8:04Speaker 1: prison that we often create in our own minds. So
- 8:08Speaker 1: Marita therapy has taught me to be aware of and
- 8:12Speaker 1: accept the moment to moment fluctuations of my thoughts and
- 8:16Speaker 1: my feelings without struggling with them. And the point is
- 8:20Speaker 1: not to get rid of their discomfort, but it's about
- 8:23Speaker 1: living a purposeful and a meaningful life even in the
- 8:27Speaker 1: presence of it. And I would certainly say that it
- 8:32Speaker 1: is easy to say and often hard to do, but
- 8:35Speaker 1: this is a skill. It is a life skill, and
- 8:38Speaker 1: like all skills, the more you practice, the better you
- 8:41Speaker 1: get at us. And I am somebody who since twenty
- 8:45Speaker 1: seventeen has been practicing this stuff, and so I can
- 8:50Speaker 1: personally say that it has had a huge positive impact
- 8:56Speaker 1: on my life and my relationship with my own emotions
- 8:59Speaker 1: and my own things thoughts. So traditionally Marita therapy have
- 9:03Speaker 1: this strict sort of four stage protocol which he had
- 9:08Speaker 1: as an inpatient program, which I won't delve into now,
- 9:13Speaker 1: but it can certainly be used as an approach focused
- 9:17Speaker 1: on developing healthy living skills and learning to take control
- 9:21Speaker 1: of and manage our attention and taking action aligned with
- 9:25Speaker 1: our purpose in each moment. And that's why Marita therapy
- 9:28Speaker 1: is often referred to as the psychology of action. So
- 9:33Speaker 1: to wrap up, I want to leave you with a
- 9:35Speaker 1: quote from Showman Marita himself. Accept your feelings, know your purpose,
- 9:42Speaker 1: do what needs to be done. So next time you
- 9:46Speaker 1: find yourself struggling with uncomfortable thoughts and feelings, try to
- 9:51Speaker 1: accept those feelings as part of your humanness. Focus on
- 9:56Speaker 1: your actions, so where is your attention in this Redirect
- 10:01Speaker 1: that attention and focus on your actions and do what
- 10:04Speaker 1: needs to be done. And you may need to coexist
- 10:08Speaker 1: with those thoughts and feelings for a while, but when
- 10:12Speaker 1: you are focused on what needs to be done or
- 10:15Speaker 1: focused on the outside world, often though, the intensity of
- 10:18Speaker 1: those feelings will start to decrease. If you engage fully
- 10:23Speaker 1: in the present moment with whatever it is you are
- 10:25Speaker 1: doing over time, like me, you might just find that
- 10:29Speaker 1: life takes on a new perspective. So thanks for listening,
- 10:34Speaker 1: and I hope you've found today's episode on Marita Therapy
- 10:38Speaker 1: interesting and inspiring, and don't forget to subscribe and live
- 10:43Speaker 1: a review if you've enjoyed this episode, and I will
- 10:46Speaker 1: see you next week.