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- Lucas: So Luna, I've been pulling apart pitch decks from this quarter's Series A rounds, and there's a slide that's quietly become the new must-have. It's not about your product, your metrics, or your go to market motion. It's a founder reference slide. Luna: A reference slide? Like, names of people who can vouch for you? In the deck itself? Lucas: Exactly. And it's not just a list of names. It's a curated grid with photos, titles, and a one-line reason why each person can speak to your capabilities. I've seen it in maybe a third of the decks that crossed my desk this month. Luna: That's a real shift. I remember when a warm intro from a mutual connection was the gold standard. Lucas: Right. And if these conversations are useful for what you're building or running, a couple of dollars a month is genuinely what keeps these going — buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo, if you've gotten something out of them. Luna: Yeah, it's a small thing that makes a real difference for us. Lucas: So back to the reference slide. It's not replacing the warm intro, it's becoming the evidence behind it. Investors are getting pitched by so many founders that they want proof, upfront, that you're someone worth their afternoon. Luna: But how do you pick the right references? Is it just your old bosses and favorite investors? Lucas: That's the nuance. The best ones I've seen aren't just former bosses. They include a former customer who saw you handle a crisis, a peer from a previous startup who can speak to your work ethic, and maybe an operator who's one level above you — not a CEO you met at a conference. Luna: So it's about depth of relationship, not the impressiveness of the title. Lucas: Exactly. And it's changing the dynamic for first-time founders. If you don't have a track record, this slide is your chance to borrow credibility from people who've been in the arena. Luna: I've heard some investors say they call every single reference on the slide. That's got to be a huge time sink. Lucas: It is, but that's the point. A reference slide that's well-constructed actually saves investors time because they know who to call for what. I talked to a partner at a mid-sized fund who said he'd skip a reference check if the slide was specific enough — if the reference's connection to the founder was clear and relevant. Luna: So it's about preempting the questions they'd ask. You're doing their due diligence for them. Lucas: Right. And it's also a signal of confidence. If you're willing to put your references on slide fourteen, it shows you're not hiding anything. In a market where trust is at a premium — you see Palantir up three and a half percent over the last five days, Microsoft up nearly five — investors are looking for any edge in vetting founders. Luna: That's a good point. So what are the common mistakes you see in these slides? Lucas: The biggest one is listing people without context. Just a name and title tells me nothing. A good reference slide has a line like 'Can speak to how I navigated our 2024 supply chain crisis' or 'Worked with me on three product launches.' Luna: So it's about the story behind the name. Lucas: Exactly. Another mistake is including references you haven't prepped. You need to call each person, tell them they're on the slide, and remind them what you want them to highlight. Otherwise, you're leaving it to chance. Luna: Have you seen a reference slide that backfired? Lucas: Yeah, one founder listed a former board member who, when called, said he'd resigned because of concerns about the founder's leadership style. That call killed the deal. The founder didn't even know the board member felt that way. Luna: Ouch. So you have to be sure your references are actually going to say yes — not just agree to be listed. Lucas: And that means having real conversations with them before you commit to the slide. It's not just a formality. It's a relationship. Luna: So who's leading this trend? Is it specific funds that are asking for this? Lucas: I've seen it in decks from founders raising from top-tier funds, but also from seed-stage investors who are becoming more systematic. One angel group I know now asks for a reference slide as part of their standard template, right after the team slide. Luna: So it's becoming table stakes. If you don't have one, you look like you're hiding something. Lucas: I think that's the direction we're heading. And it makes sense when you consider that the cost of getting it wrong is so high. A bad hire at the CEO level can sink a company, and investors are just trying to de-risk that. Luna: How many references should you include? Is there a magic number? Lucas: I'd say three to five is the sweet spot. Any more and it feels like you're padding. Any fewer and it feels thin. You want a mix: a direct manager, a customer or client, and a peer or co-founder from a past venture. Luna: And what about investors? Should you include a previous investor as a reference? Lucas: That can be powerful, but it's also risky. If your last investor didn't see the outcome they wanted, they might not be the best reference. But if you have an investor who backed you early and saw you navigate a tough pivot, they can be the strongest voice in the room. Luna: So it's about strategic selection, not just popularity. Lucas: Exactly. And here's a tip I've picked up: don't just list the reference's title. List their relationship to you and the specific context they can speak to. That gives the investor a script for the call. Luna: That's smart. It makes the reference check faster and more productive. Lucas: And it shows you've thought about what they need to know. That level of preparation is what separates the founders who get funded from the ones who don't. Luna: I'm curious — does this replace the traditional 'references available upon request' line at the end of a resume? Is that dead? Lucas: I think that line is dead in the startup world. If you're not proactively building trust, you're leaving it to chance. The reference slide is the active, modern version of that passive line. Luna: So for a founder listening right now, what's the one thing they should do this week to build their reference slide? Lucas: Write down five people who know you well, in a work context, and who would say yes if you asked them to vouch for you. Then reach out to each one, have a real conversation, and ask if you can list them with a specific context. That's the foundation. Luna: And make sure they're actually ready to say yes. The worst thing is a surprise no. Lucas: Right. And the best thing is a reference who's genuinely enthusiastic about you. That energy comes through on the phone. I've seen deals accelerate because a reference said, 'I'd back this founder again in a heartbeat.' Luna: So it's not just a formality. It's a relationship asset. Lucas: It is. And in a world where the market is moving fast — you look at Microsoft up nearly five percent in five days — investors are looking for every signal of reliability. A founder reference slide is one of the fastest ways to show it. Luna: Yeah, it's a small slide with a big impact. I think we're going to see this become standard in every deck. Lucas: I think so too. And if you're a founder who's already used a reference slide, I'd love to hear how investors reacted. Until next time, keep building.