Latest / The Cryptid Huntress / Shunka Warak'in: Rocky Mountain Hyena Dogman?
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- 0:08Speaker 1: So so Well, good evening, everybody. It's the Crippled Huntress.
- 0:48Speaker 1: I'm Jessica Jones. Welcome into our.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Remote viewing show this week. I am so glad you
- 1:07Speaker 2: guys are here. We have a fantastic show for you guys.
- 1:10Speaker 2: And I hope that I can get this name pronounced
- 1:12Speaker 2: right tonight. We are going to be looking into the,
- 1:18Speaker 2: oh my God, the Shunka Wurrungan tonight. And some people
- 1:22Speaker 2: say this is the Rocky Mountain Hyena Dogman.
- 1:26Speaker 3: All right.
- 1:26Speaker 2: And this is going to be something that I have
- 1:29Speaker 2: connected potentially to my dogman encounter that I had in Alabama, y'all. Okay,
- 1:37Speaker 2: so we're going to take a deep dive into this.
- 1:40Speaker 2: This was given to me as a remote viewing target
- 1:43Speaker 2: several months ago, and tonight we're going to figure out
- 1:49Speaker 2: what this thing is, and this thing goes back centuries, okay,
- 1:53Speaker 2: and it's potentially based mostly out of Montana, I believe,
- 1:58Speaker 2: but there could be other creatures like this all over
- 2:01Speaker 2: the country, maybe all over the world, y'all, okay? So
- 2:05Speaker 2: buckle up, y'all. We got a lot to discuss again tonight.
- 2:09Speaker 2: And I want to thank you guys for being here
- 2:13Speaker 2: all week for all of our shows. Gosh, we've had
- 2:15Speaker 2: some great ones so far. And I do want to
- 2:18Speaker 2: let you guys know that I will be going to,
- 2:21Speaker 2: I was invited actually to speak at the LBL. Y'all
- 2:26Speaker 2: know what the LBL is. We talk about it all
- 2:27Speaker 2: the time. It is the, what did I call it today?
- 2:31Speaker 2: It's like on the bucket list. of every Dogman researcher
- 2:37Speaker 2: and Dogman investigator and Bigfoot researcher and investigator as a
- 2:41Speaker 2: destination hotspot to go research. Well, they are actually having
- 2:46Speaker 2: a LBL-sanctioned Dogman and Bigfoot town hall, y'all. That means
- 2:51Speaker 2: that basically the government, I don't want to say the government,
- 2:56Speaker 2: I don't know, whoever's running that place over there is
- 2:57Speaker 2: having this Bigfoot town hall. And I was invited to
- 3:01Speaker 2: come speak at it. So, yeah, I can't turn that down.
- 3:06Speaker 2: And I'm going to be there. Mr. Martin Groves called
- 3:08Speaker 2: me or contacted me and asked me to be a
- 3:12Speaker 2: part of that. And my good friend Barton Unley as well.
- 3:14Speaker 2: I'm going to be representing the Brotherhood of the Wolf
- 3:17Speaker 2: out there. And Barton wanted me to make sure that
- 3:21Speaker 2: I told everybody that I am the first female field
- 3:25Speaker 2: researcher to ever present or speak about inhumanoids, cryptids, Dogman
- 3:33Speaker 2: Bigfoot encounters in the LBL at the LBL at an
- 3:37Speaker 2: event ever. Okay, so it is a huge honor, y'all.
- 3:41Speaker 2: And y'all know how much I talk about the LBL.
- 3:46Speaker 2: And so I cannot pass this up. And I'm going
- 3:48Speaker 2: to definitely be there. Even if the hurricane comes up
- 3:52Speaker 2: and hits us this weekend, I want you guys to
- 3:54Speaker 2: please be safe out there. I see Miss Phyllis. What's up,
- 3:56Speaker 2: Miss Phyllis? In the chat. And all my friends in
- 3:59Speaker 2: Alabama and Mississippi, y'all, please be safe. We do have
- 4:04Speaker 2: quite the storm headed our way. And, of course, even
- 4:06Speaker 2: in Georgia, we're going to be getting a lot of
- 4:09Speaker 2: rain and stuff. And so, please, y'all, I don't know
- 4:12Speaker 2: if you're going to hunker down or you're going to
- 4:14Speaker 2: get out of Dodge. Okay, but hopefully it won't be
- 4:17Speaker 2: as bad as they're saying. Okay, hopefully it won't. But
- 4:20Speaker 2: I'm taking my raincoat, y'all. Take your ponchos and come
- 4:23Speaker 2: see me out of the LBL. Let's see. Let me
- 4:26Speaker 2: give you the.
- 4:27Speaker 3: Let me see.
- 4:28Speaker 2: I got a flyer here somewhere. Here we go. You know,
- 4:31Speaker 2: I was actually saying, I wasn't sure if I was
- 4:33Speaker 2: going to go cause I haven't been feeling well. Okay. But, uh,
- 4:35Speaker 2: but I was assured this is a huge event and
- 4:38Speaker 2: it was very important that I be there. And we're
- 4:40Speaker 2: going to be at the Fenton day use area this Saturday,
- 4:44Speaker 2: October the 10th at the land between the lakes. Uh, and, uh,
- 4:48Speaker 2: it is a moonshine festival. I don't know if I
- 4:50Speaker 2: mentioned that. So come get free moonshine tasting y'all. I
- 4:55Speaker 2: don't know who likes moonshine. Uh, I'm not going to
- 4:58Speaker 2: say if I like Moonshine or not. It's none of
- 4:59Speaker 2: y'all's business. I'm just kidding. I mean, it is what
- 5:04Speaker 2: it is, y'all. It's fun. It's going to be a
- 5:05Speaker 2: great time. And like I said, the Land Between the
- 5:08Speaker 2: Lakes is actually, the Friends of the Land Between the
- 5:10Speaker 2: Lakes is sponsoring this this weekend. And Martin Groves does
- 5:15Speaker 2: have a big role in this with the Bigfoot and
- 5:18Speaker 2: the Dogman Town Hall. But how cool is that? They're
- 5:20Speaker 2: going to be talking about bringing people in to talk
- 5:22Speaker 2: about Dogman encounters at the LBL.
- 5:25Speaker 3: Okay.
- 5:27Speaker 2: That's groundbreaking. If you ask me, um, full disclosure, I mean,
- 5:32Speaker 2: it doesn't get any better than that.
- 5:33Speaker 3: Okay.
- 5:34Speaker 2: So, um, so I hope to see all of you
- 5:36Speaker 2: guys there. If you have any questions or whatever, I
- 5:37Speaker 2: do have all the information on my website. Go to
- 5:39Speaker 2: the friends of the land between the lakes on Facebook
- 5:43Speaker 2: and check out their Facebook page for more information. Okay.
- 5:46Speaker 3: All right.
- 5:47Speaker 2: Well, if you guys want to check out, oh, also
- 5:49Speaker 2: I'm going to also be in Molina at the Molina
- 5:53Speaker 2: Bigfoot Festival next month, November the 14th. So y'all come
- 5:56Speaker 2: see me at that as well.
- 5:58Speaker 3: Okay.
- 5:59Speaker 2: If y'all want to check out the Cryptid Huntress, go
- 6:01Speaker 2: over to my website. It's the cryptidhuntress.com. And also all
- 6:06Speaker 2: the data for tonight's target is posted in my Patreon. Oh,
- 6:11Speaker 2: I hope I put it in there today. If I didn't,
- 6:13Speaker 2: I'll put it in there after the show, y'all. I've
- 6:14Speaker 2: been so busy today. But my entire, my presentation's in
- 6:18Speaker 2: there so far. Okay. And so y'all can go in
- 6:21Speaker 2: there and follow along. On my Patreon tonight, right this minute, patreon.com,
- 6:27Speaker 2: the cryptid huntress, forward slash the cryptid huntress. Okay, so
- 6:31Speaker 2: thank you guys for that. And I do have an
- 6:32Speaker 2: Etsy shop as well. If you guys want to come
- 6:35Speaker 2: find me over there. Okay, well, let's get into our
- 6:38Speaker 2: show today because we have my good friend, Mr. Bruce
- 6:41Speaker 2: Brown in the studio tonight. And he is full of
- 6:45Speaker 2: knowledge and he's had some dogman encounters of his own
- 6:48Speaker 2: that are pretty mind blowing. And we're trying to figure
- 6:51Speaker 2: out what this is. is we're going to talk about tonight.
- 6:57Speaker 2: The Shunka Warakan is a canine cryptid that is said
- 7:01Speaker 2: to live in the mountains and plains of Montana and
- 7:05Speaker 2: the surrounding areas. It is a beast resembling a wolf
- 7:08Speaker 2: and a hyena. This creature has been blamed for livestock
- 7:13Speaker 2: deaths and is described in early settler journals. The Shunka
- 7:19Speaker 2: Warakan's description overlaps with werewolf lore And in one case,
- 7:23Speaker 2: a strange carcass that was unalived in 1880 was mounted
- 7:30Speaker 2: and displayed in a museum. And some believe it's a
- 7:34Speaker 2: cryptid or prehistoric survivor, while others link it to shapeshifter
- 7:38Speaker 2: myths of the Crow and Lakota tribes. Could this creature
- 7:44Speaker 2: be what eyewitnesses describe as a hyena type dog man? Well,
- 7:50Speaker 2: I was tasked with the Shunka Warakan as a coordinate
- 7:53Speaker 2: remote viewing target. And we're going to discuss this data
- 7:57Speaker 2: here tonight with Bruce Brown. Bruce is a former law
- 7:59Speaker 2: enforcement officer from Tennessee who's had multiple intense dogman encounters.
- 8:05Speaker 2: He served as a patrolman, a deputy sheriff, sergeant, sergeant
- 8:08Speaker 2: of patrols, detective and chief of narcotics. His professional background
- 8:15Speaker 2: exposed him to calls on Bigfoot and dogman encounters and
- 8:19Speaker 2: And he knows the protocols and how those cases were
- 8:22Speaker 2: handled and potentially covered up by law enforcement and the military.
- 8:27Speaker 2: He first encountered Dogman while he was hunting from a
- 8:31Speaker 2: tree stand. And you all know his story. He actually,
- 8:34Speaker 2: at some point, held a baby Dogman in his hands.
- 8:39Speaker 2: You guys, please help me welcome to the show tonight, Mr.
- 8:41Speaker 2: Bruce Brown of the Cryptid Wrangler podcast.
- 8:46Speaker 3: Hello, everyone. Hope everybody's doing good. Hey, Bruce. Hey, how's
- 8:51Speaker 3: it going?
- 8:52Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here tonight. It's so
- 8:54Speaker 2: good to see you. How you been?
- 8:55Speaker 3: Oh, I'm just hanging in there like a hair in
- 8:57Speaker 3: a biscuit.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Oh, God.
- 8:59Speaker 3: Been pretty good. Oh, Lord.
- 9:02Speaker 2: You said that last time you came on here. And
- 9:05Speaker 2: I'm still gagging over that one.
- 9:07Speaker 3: Gross. Gross.
- 9:09Speaker 2: You bring about memories. I have definitely had some hair
- 9:12Speaker 2: in my food in the past. Okay, so thanks, Bruce.
- 9:18Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh. man.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Well, you, you, I know you've been busy. I've been
- 9:23Speaker 2: seeing you all over the internet, all over the YouTube
- 9:25Speaker 2: channels and on spaced out radio. You have been busy, man.
- 9:28Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you. Uh, talking about the, I
- 9:31Speaker 2: think you, you guys made quite the stir talking about
- 9:35Speaker 2: the Patterson Gimlin film recently. And, uh, have you, tell
- 9:39Speaker 2: me if you guys had any backlash or is the
- 9:42Speaker 2: response been good?
- 9:43Speaker 3: The response has been really good. Uh, I think it has.
- 9:50Speaker 3: I mean, we, you know, you always have the nice
- 9:53Speaker 3: errors and what not but we're presenting evidence we're showing
- 10:00Speaker 3: facts and telling people about the truth of it that
- 10:09Speaker 3: it was just more than just a few second video
- 10:12Speaker 3: involving a lot of people and if y'all will come
- 10:17Speaker 3: over to Battle Rim. It's coming Monday. I believe the 12th. Well,
- 10:29Speaker 3: I'm just going to go ahead and tell you a
- 10:31Speaker 3: secret I was going to hold out to them.
- 10:33Speaker 2: Oh, tell us.
- 10:35Speaker 3: The Federal Forest Park Rangers were involved in this, too.
- 10:39Speaker 3: Stop it.
- 10:40Speaker 2: Oh, wait. This is alleged.
- 10:44Speaker 3: Right, Bruce?
- 10:45Speaker 2: Just kidding.
- 10:46Speaker 3: This is proof.
- 10:47Speaker 2: Oh, man, for entertainment. Proof alleged. For entertainment purposes only. Man,
- 10:53Speaker 2: that's dangerous.
- 10:54Speaker 3: Really?
- 10:55Speaker 1: Yes.
- 10:55Speaker 3: Yes. Man.
- 10:59Speaker 2: Okay. You going to talk about that next week on
- 11:02Speaker 2: the 12th?
- 11:03Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay. We'll talk about that.
- 11:07Speaker 2: Breaking news.
- 11:09Speaker 3: And we got, right after this show tonight, I got
- 11:12Speaker 3: another show to do. And then I got one to do.
- 11:16Speaker 3: Two o'clock tomorrow evening with Lowdown with Jared. And then
- 11:20Speaker 3: I've got my show to do, co-host with Cryptid Wrangler.
- 11:27Speaker 2: You've got another show tonight?
- 11:29Speaker 3: Yes, another one tonight. I've got two or three tomorrow.
- 11:33Speaker 3: And then I've got Bigfoot Town Hall and Expedition Saturday
- 11:40Speaker 3: if we don't get blown away by the hurricane.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Well, thank you. I didn't know you
- 11:46Speaker 2: had another show tonight, Bruce. I wouldn't have put the
- 11:49Speaker 2: pressure on you to come on my show tonight.
- 11:51Speaker 3: Oh, that's no problem. No problem. Okay. I'm as interested
- 11:54Speaker 3: in this as anything else. I'm curious about it. I am, too.
- 12:00Speaker 2: Well, Bruce, you know, I'm going to be up in
- 12:01Speaker 2: your territory this weekend. I'm going to go up to
- 12:03Speaker 2: the LBL, actually. It's not too far from where you live.
- 12:07Speaker 2: And can you believe they're having a Bigfoot Dogman Town
- 12:10Speaker 2: Hall at the LBL? Isn't that wild?
- 12:14Speaker 3: What's surprising is the State Forestry Division is backing this. Exactly.
- 12:23Speaker 2: Sanctioned. That's what Martin told me. He's like, I told
- 12:28Speaker 2: Martin that I would be there because he asked me.
- 12:32Speaker 2: And when Martin asked me to do something, I will
- 12:33Speaker 2: do it. However, I've been sick. I haven't been feeling
- 12:37Speaker 2: good for the past week. I was in Alabama last week,
- 12:41Speaker 2: last weekend. And I lost my voice. I wasn't feeling great.
- 12:45Speaker 2: And I was like, well, I'm going to try to
- 12:46Speaker 2: get to feeling better, you know, to get up there.
- 12:50Speaker 2: And I got two or three phone calls yesterday. And
- 12:53Speaker 2: they were like, Jessica, you have no idea how important
- 12:55Speaker 2: this is. You have to be there. You have to
- 12:59Speaker 2: be there. This is the first and maybe the only
- 13:01Speaker 2: time that the Kentucky LBL is actually sanctioning a cryptid
- 13:07Speaker 2: town hall to come talk about dogman encounters in the LBL.
- 13:12Speaker 2: and Bigfoot encounters as well. And, uh, and I was like,
- 13:15Speaker 2: why are y'all asking me what qualifies me to come
- 13:18Speaker 2: speak at this?
- 13:20Speaker 3: You know?
- 13:20Speaker 2: And, uh, and I, and I was assured that like, I,
- 13:23Speaker 2: you know, they just, they want me to be there.
- 13:25Speaker 2: They want me to come speak. And, uh, it's wild.
- 13:29Speaker 3: A soft disclosure for the beginning.
- 13:31Speaker 2: It is. I think so too. It almost makes me
- 13:35Speaker 2: kind of like, I'm getting verklempt. You remember that on
- 13:38Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live? It's almost like, it's very, it makes
- 13:41Speaker 2: me emotional because like, I've been talking about this for
- 13:43Speaker 2: so long, and one of my best friends, Mark Maycheck,
- 13:46Speaker 2: used to come on the show all the time. And
- 13:49Speaker 2: he passed away this past year. And I think that
- 13:53Speaker 2: he would be really, really happy to hear about this.
- 13:56Speaker 2: And so I have to go to make him proud. Okay.
- 14:01Speaker 2: And so that's why I'm going.
- 14:03Speaker 3: I'm just shocked the government's accepting it.
- 14:06Speaker 2: Me too.
- 14:07Speaker 3: And backing it, sponsoring it, putting it on.
- 14:12Speaker 4: With moonshine what's up with that yeah yeah it is
- 14:17Speaker 4: it is odd especially considering i was talking to my
- 14:20Speaker 4: um a buddy of mine who came on the show
- 14:22Speaker 4: trent trenton battle came on the show and i said
- 14:25Speaker 4: do you he's from the l he's from hopkinsville right
- 14:28Speaker 4: down the road from the lbl and i said uh
- 14:30Speaker 4: do you think it's odd that like you know um
- 14:33Speaker 4: the the government is like actually going to put on
- 14:36Speaker 4: you know the lbl is actually curious and accepting of
- 14:39Speaker 4: like a bigfoot town hall dogman town hall considering there
- 14:42Speaker 4: might have been a massacre of a family by a
- 14:44Speaker 4: dog man there.
- 14:46Speaker 2: And it's interesting, right?
- 14:49Speaker 3: Right. And this is actually being put on in the LBL,
- 14:54Speaker 3: on that state and federal government property.
- 14:57Speaker 2: Yes. That's right.
- 15:00Speaker 3: Soft disclosure.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Soft disclosure. This is full disclosure. Listen, when you get
- 15:04Speaker 2: the cryptic hunters on the stage with the microphone, you
- 15:07Speaker 2: don't know what I'm going to say. So y'all watch out.
- 15:09Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.
- 15:11Speaker 2: I'm going to take this opportunity to go full disclosure and,
- 15:14Speaker 2: and it's going to be good. It's going to be good.
- 15:16Speaker 2: It's going to be fun. So, so everybody, please come
- 15:19Speaker 2: see me. I think this is a step in the
- 15:20Speaker 2: right direction for cryptid disclosure and humanoid disclosure, whatever you
- 15:24Speaker 2: want to call these things. It don't matter. The fact
- 15:28Speaker 2: that they're allowing us to do this is a huge
- 15:31Speaker 2: step forward. Okay.
- 15:32Speaker 3: It is.
- 15:33Speaker 2: And, and I feel like it's historic. Like I'm, It's
- 15:35Speaker 2: like one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind, right?
- 15:40Speaker 3: At the LBO. One huge jump for the cryptus hunters.
- 15:44Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, absolutely. If the hurricane doesn't hit us.
- 15:50Speaker 3: Okay. Y'all still be able to do it. Just hang
- 15:53Speaker 3: on to a telephone pole or a tree. I know.
- 15:56Speaker 2: There's going to be a moonshine there. We're going to
- 15:58Speaker 2: be flexible. Okay, I'm sure. Not me, but everybody else here.
- 16:01Speaker 3: Just stay away from the block and tackle.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Good thing I played rugby in college. Okay. We'll be
- 16:09Speaker 2: all right. We'll be all right. I know how to
- 16:10Speaker 2: bear fight. Okay. So anyways.
- 16:13Speaker 3: All right.
- 16:13Speaker 2: Well, well tonight let's, let's get into this creature. This
- 16:18Speaker 2: cryptid tonight is called the Shunka Warakan.
- 16:22Speaker 3: Okay.
- 16:22Speaker 2: And I may be pronouncing that wrong, but this is
- 16:24Speaker 2: something that I have been curious about for decades. And,
- 16:29Speaker 2: and this is a, it looks like a wolf, right?
- 16:32Speaker 2: Kind of like a wolf-like creature out of Montana, Bruce.
- 16:36Speaker 2: And some people say it's like a hyena-wolf mix. And
- 16:44Speaker 2: through whatever I've been looking, all the research that I've
- 16:47Speaker 2: done on this, the past couple of days, you know,
- 16:51Speaker 2: because I remote viewed this a while back, I decided
- 16:53Speaker 2: to bring this up for our show. Because I'm seeing
- 16:57Speaker 2: some similarities with what I saw in Alabama.
- 17:00Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:01Speaker 2: With whatever this thing is. And what I saw in
- 17:04Speaker 2: Alabama when I was leaving that hunt camp one night.
- 17:07Speaker 2: It looked like a hyena. But it was all black.
- 17:11Speaker 2: And it was the size of a bear. And it
- 17:13Speaker 2: also kind of looked like it moved like a panther. Okay.
- 17:16Speaker 2: But I'm just seeing some connections with what I saw
- 17:20Speaker 2: with whatever this is. And of course there's like one
- 17:23Speaker 2: of these things taxidermed.
- 17:25Speaker 3: Okay.
- 17:26Speaker 2: Taxidermed. Um, I'm not going to say that's like the
- 17:30Speaker 2: end all be all or whatever, but like there is,
- 17:32Speaker 2: there's one of these creatures taxidermed and we're going to
- 17:35Speaker 2: get into that conversation tonight as well. But, uh, but
- 17:38Speaker 2: reports of this creature go back way before the settlers
- 17:43Speaker 2: even moved in, you know, the white settlers and stuff,
- 17:45Speaker 2: the Europeans moved into Montana. And, uh, and so have
- 17:50Speaker 2: you ever heard of this Shunka Warunka before?
- 17:57Speaker 3: Yes, I have, but it's been very little. I know
- 18:01Speaker 3: about the museum part of it. I think it was
- 18:07Speaker 3: the Sioux that came up with the name for it,
- 18:10Speaker 3: but then it was changed by the taxidermist. So I
- 18:14Speaker 3: don't know a whole lot about it. I remember when
- 18:17Speaker 3: you done your show on the one you seen, And
- 18:22Speaker 3: when you described it, it was very familiar, but not identical.
- 18:29Speaker 2: It sounds identical to what I saw, actually. Now, the
- 18:34Speaker 2: taxidermed animal does not look anything like what I saw.
- 18:37Speaker 2: It doesn't. The face is completely different. The muzzle is
- 18:43Speaker 2: completely different. We're going to show some examples tonight. I've
- 18:47Speaker 2: got some examples of I've got the taxidermied animal we're
- 18:52Speaker 2: going to talk about. We're going to show it tonight.
- 18:54Speaker 2: And then I have kind of an example of what
- 18:56Speaker 2: I saw. And it's way different.
- 18:59Speaker 3: Okay.
- 19:00Speaker 2: It's way different.
- 19:01Speaker 3: But.
- 19:01Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I love my chat by the way.
- 19:05Speaker 2: Some people were wondering if maybe this could be like.
- 19:08Speaker 2: A remnant of the dire wolves. Now that's a prehistoric wolf.
- 19:12Speaker 2: I believe.
- 19:13Speaker 3: Bruce. I mean I don't know.
- 19:16Speaker 2: They're trying to bring back the dire wolves. They said
- 19:18Speaker 2: they got their DNA. And they're trying to like. Bring
- 19:22Speaker 2: them back right now and stuff.
- 19:23Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 19:24Speaker 2: What do you think? Could this be a dire wolf,
- 19:26Speaker 2: you think?
- 19:27Speaker 3: It could be part dire wolf, yes. It could also,
- 19:33Speaker 3: I think on one of your shows, you've done a
- 19:35Speaker 3: show on carnivals going bankrupt or train wrecks.
- 19:40Speaker 2: Train wrecks.
- 19:43Speaker 3: Losing their exotic animals. Could have very well happened. Yes. Ooh.
- 19:51Speaker 2: You know, that's actually, ooh. Okay, there's so many more
- 19:55Speaker 2: cryptids that I have not discussed yet on my show
- 19:59Speaker 2: that have been the result of train wrecks. And I
- 20:04Speaker 2: don't know. I think I could write a whole book
- 20:06Speaker 2: on that. Somebody needs to write a book on it.
- 20:07Speaker 2: If I don't, somebody else should. Okay. there's a lot
- 20:11Speaker 2: of cryptids that are blamed on train wrecks from circuses.
- 20:16Speaker 2: And it's mostly Bigfoot or wild men or something like
- 20:19Speaker 2: that or werewolves. But, yeah, it's kind of a thing,
- 20:24Speaker 2: especially around the south. Tennessee, where you live, are you
- 20:28Speaker 2: anywhere near Werewolf Springs, Bruce?
- 20:30Speaker 3: Yes. Yes, I've been to Werewolf Springs. Yes.
- 20:33Speaker 4: Oh, God.
- 20:34Speaker 3: Yes, that's a pretty good little hike in there. Uh,
- 20:39Speaker 3: it's not a, when you go in there, it's not
- 20:42Speaker 3: a one day trip. You have to go in there
- 20:43Speaker 3: and camp out all night, come back out the next day.
- 20:47Speaker 2: Uh, I think that it's going to be more than
- 20:48Speaker 2: just two days.
- 20:49Speaker 3: Actually.
- 20:49Speaker 2: I was told that it's a 10 to 15 mile
- 20:52Speaker 2: hike in.
- 20:52Speaker 3: It is.
- 20:54Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 20:55Speaker 2: That's a lot.
- 20:56Speaker 3: Okay. That's your first day.
- 20:58Speaker 2: That's a lot.
- 20:59Speaker 3: Hike out the second day. But when you come out
- 21:02Speaker 3: second day, you'll come out at night. There's also a
- 21:04Speaker 3: cemetery right there too.
- 21:08Speaker 2: That kind of sounds like when we went to the
- 21:10Speaker 2: Bankhead Forest. Oh, did I say that out loud? I
- 21:13Speaker 2: don't know if I ever disclosed that.
- 21:14Speaker 3: Oops.
- 21:15Speaker 2: We went to the, when we went to that Dogman
- 21:17Speaker 2: investigation in Alabama and we hiked in five miles. Okay.
- 21:24Speaker 2: Five miles. It's okay. I say it in public, y'all.
- 21:27Speaker 2: When I give presentations. So I'm just, I give so
- 21:30Speaker 2: many presentations now. I don't know that you're in public
- 21:34Speaker 2: and here on YouTube.
- 21:36Speaker 3: Okay.
- 21:37Speaker 2: Okay. But we went out there. We hiked in about
- 21:39Speaker 2: five or six miles, Bruce. It was a long hike.
- 21:42Speaker 2: And it was in July and it was about 120 degrees.
- 21:46Speaker 2: It was about 125 degrees last Saturday in Alabama at
- 21:50Speaker 2: that conference or that town hall I spoke at. But
- 21:53Speaker 2: it was really, really hot. That's where we saw the
- 21:55Speaker 2: petrified dragon and all that stuff out there. Five to
- 21:59Speaker 2: six miles was a lot.
- 22:02Speaker 3: It was a lot.
- 22:03Speaker 2: With all of your gear and it's like, you know,
- 22:05Speaker 2: depending upon the weather, 10 miles. I looked at that
- 22:09Speaker 2: and we were kind of trying to decide like where
- 22:11Speaker 2: to go next. And I had to factor that in.
- 22:15Speaker 2: I was like, we have to hike in 10 miles.
- 22:16Speaker 2: That's double what we hiked into the dogman investigation at Bankhead.
- 22:21Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm ready for that. Okay. But,
- 22:25Speaker 2: but anyways, that was, that was another circus train wreck.
- 22:30Speaker 3: Yeah. Late fall, early winter. And yeah. While the leaves
- 22:35Speaker 3: were falling, and it's actually a good camouflage, too. So
- 22:39Speaker 3: when you're going in, you can actually have good encounters.
- 22:45Speaker 3: The cemetery there is a little spooky, but I stayed
- 22:50Speaker 3: there at the springs, camped out at the springs. We
- 22:53Speaker 3: had a lot of strange things happen. So at daylight,
- 22:57Speaker 3: of course, we had to hike out in order to
- 22:59Speaker 3: get back out to a reasonable area. We could use
- 23:02Speaker 3: flashlights to walk the rest of the way out. What?
- 23:10Speaker 2: So you have made the trek. You've camped out. Did
- 23:14Speaker 2: you take a tent or did you sleep in a hammock?
- 23:17Speaker 3: No, I took a one-man pop-up tent.
- 23:21Speaker 2: Oh, you bivouacked, basically.
- 23:25Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 23:25Speaker 2: Oh, man, you are a true Bigfoot burrito, Bruce.
- 23:29Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 23:30Speaker 2: Good for you.
- 23:31Speaker 3: I went by myself.
- 23:33Speaker 2: You did?
- 23:34Speaker 3: Yes. I done that trek by myself. I was more
- 23:39Speaker 3: spooked by the cemetery than I was the sounds I
- 23:42Speaker 3: was hearing.
- 23:42Speaker 2: What kind of sounds do you hear?
- 23:45Speaker 3: Well, you hear what would sound like a combination between
- 23:50Speaker 3: a wolf and an owl. And you would get deep
- 23:56Speaker 3: guttural sounds. You would get things that would move through
- 23:59Speaker 3: the brush that was in front of you. And a
- 24:03Speaker 3: split second later, it was behind you making the same sounds.
- 24:07Speaker 3: So it took a little bit to figure out it
- 24:09Speaker 3: was just one cryptid instead of many cryptids. They were
- 24:17Speaker 3: just vast. Oh, wow.
- 24:23Speaker 2: That's wild. You know, considering that our Department of War
- 24:29Speaker 2: just put out all those documents that declassified some documents
- 24:34Speaker 2: and stuff and put them out into the public on
- 24:35Speaker 2: the ufo disclosure talking about portals and stargates and wormhole
- 24:40Speaker 2: throats my favorite and uh and and talking about that
- 24:45Speaker 2: it it kind of just proves what we've always talked
- 24:50Speaker 2: about about the even the cryptids utilizing portals and stargates
- 24:55Speaker 2: and stuff and maybe even Being able to move quicker,
- 24:59Speaker 2: I mean, maybe they're able to move in front of
- 25:01Speaker 2: us and behind us quicker because they are utilizing portals
- 25:03Speaker 2: and stuff. I don't know. It's kind of an interesting thought,
- 25:07Speaker 2: let's just say. But they also probably move fast, too,
- 25:11Speaker 2: without portals. But that would be terrifying, Bruce. I can't
- 25:15Speaker 2: believe you did that by yourself.
- 25:17Speaker 3: Yes, yes. I used to go into the Cherokee Mountains
- 25:20Speaker 3: and do that and not come out for two weeks
- 25:22Speaker 3: at a time.
- 25:23Speaker 4: Wow.
- 25:24Speaker 3: Wow. Okay. Wow.
- 25:27Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Can I go with you sometime?
- 25:29Speaker 2: I would love to go out there.
- 25:30Speaker 3: I'd like to take you to the warrior's path.
- 25:33Speaker 2: Yes, I will totally go. Listen, I just looked at
- 25:37Speaker 2: my calendar and I'm looking at my calendar. I'm like,
- 25:39Speaker 2: Oh my God, every single weekend I've got stuff going on.
- 25:43Speaker 2: And when the weather cools off, cause it's still hot, we,
- 25:47Speaker 2: I need to get out more and I want to go,
- 25:49Speaker 2: we'll make some plans. Okay.
- 25:51Speaker 3: We will.
- 25:52Speaker 2: I will hike 10 miles. I don't care.
- 25:54Speaker 3: Okay.
- 25:55Speaker 2: I can do it as long as the weather's not bad.
- 25:58Speaker 3: Right.
- 25:59Speaker 2: But anyways, man, well, oh, my gosh. So you were
- 26:04Speaker 2: hearing strange noises. It sounded like a wolf and an owl.
- 26:07Speaker 3: Right. It sounded like an owl call, but it was
- 26:10Speaker 3: too guttural. And you could tell it wasn't an owl.
- 26:16Speaker 3: And then at the same time, in spots of it,
- 26:18Speaker 3: you could tell it wasn't a wolf. Because you had
- 26:23Speaker 3: a high-pitched scream that sounded more like a woman's scream. Okay.
- 26:29Speaker 2: Why do these cryptids think that we're going to be
- 26:31Speaker 2: fooled by owl sounds? That's something that is always a constant.
- 26:36Speaker 2: It's like a 500 to 900-pound owl out there. You
- 26:39Speaker 2: can tell the difference a lot of times between a
- 26:42Speaker 2: real owl and a Bigfoot or whatever's out there.
- 26:45Speaker 3: Well, I make the owl calls to greet them. And
- 26:48Speaker 3: I think they do the same thing, to greet us.
- 26:52Speaker 2: Wow. That's cool. Okay. Well, that's cool. Sometimes the Bigfoots
- 26:58Speaker 2: pretend to be owls, too, though.
- 26:59Speaker 3: Okay.
- 27:00Speaker 2: And I've experienced that quite a bit out in the field.
- 27:04Speaker 3: Wow. Okay.
- 27:06Speaker 2: Well, hey, you're still alive. You're still here. And you
- 27:09Speaker 2: know where all the good spots are, apparently. Now, what
- 27:11Speaker 2: is that? Montgomery Bell State Park?
- 27:14Speaker 3: Yes. Yes. Yeah? Okay. You have to sort of slip
- 27:17Speaker 3: in there now. I've done that probably 10 or 12
- 27:20Speaker 3: years back. I think now they want you to bring
- 27:25Speaker 3: a park service ranger with a group in now, which
- 27:31Speaker 3: is a lot safer. But I tend to be a loner.
- 27:35Speaker 3: I want to go out by myself or bring one
- 27:38Speaker 3: person with me because I think I have better encounters. Oh, yeah.
- 27:44Speaker 2: I bet you do. And I don't know.
- 27:47Speaker 3: It's tough.
- 27:48Speaker 2: I don't know about taking a park ranger with me
- 27:50Speaker 2: when I go big footing and stuff like that.
- 27:52Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 27:53Speaker 2: It's good to be friends with people who be friendly.
- 27:56Speaker 2: Let's just say be friendly.
- 27:57Speaker 3: Right.
- 27:58Speaker 2: But I think that they've, they've generally known what we're
- 28:02Speaker 2: doing out there, you know, and it's always, we've always
- 28:04Speaker 2: been friends with the park rangers and the game wardens
- 28:07Speaker 2: and everybody. I don't know. I mean, like you said,
- 28:10Speaker 2: with the LBL this weekend, it's the LBL park service.
- 28:15Speaker 2: It's actually having this festival this weekend where I'm speaking.
- 28:18Speaker 2: about Dogman on-premises this weekend. So, I mean, do you
- 28:25Speaker 2: think they're just more open about it? Do you think
- 28:27Speaker 2: they're kind of relieved, maybe? Some of these parks are
- 28:29Speaker 2: going to be relieved that, like, we're finally putting the
- 28:32Speaker 2: conversation out there on the table about this stuff?
- 28:35Speaker 3: Yes, I believe it's a... I've always believed, especially in
- 28:39Speaker 3: the last eight to ten years, that it's going to
- 28:44Speaker 3: be a disclosure, and then with President Trump releasing the
- 28:50Speaker 3: UFO files. And then in some cases you can connect
- 28:55Speaker 3: the cryptids to the UFOs. Not all of them, but
- 28:58Speaker 3: some of them. And it seems like to me the
- 29:01Speaker 3: further west you get, Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, where you got
- 29:07Speaker 3: a lot of clearer skies and you can see millions
- 29:12Speaker 3: of stars, they tend to have more of an extraterrestrial
- 29:18Speaker 3: type sightings along with bigfoot people.
- 29:22Speaker 2: Like that all roads lead back to et that's what
- 29:26Speaker 2: the head of my team always told us and and
- 29:29Speaker 2: i believe that and i think that's true i really
- 29:32Speaker 2: do but um.
- 29:34Speaker 3: I deal with mostly flesh flesh and blood every now
- 29:37Speaker 3: and then i'll get one that's uh extraordinary. But I
- 29:43Speaker 3: try to debunk a lot of things. That's my biggest problem.
- 29:47Speaker 3: I'm trying to debunk stuff. That keeps your sanity.
- 29:52Speaker 2: It does. It's not a problem, Bruce. We have to
- 29:54Speaker 2: do that. We have to try to do everything. Not
- 29:56Speaker 2: everything's a big foot. Not everything's a dog, man. Not
- 29:58Speaker 2: everything is alien. That's right. Well, tonight, this cryptid that
- 30:04Speaker 2: we're talking about. Yeah.
- 30:06Speaker 3: It could be a sloth.
- 30:08Speaker 2: It could be a sloth foot. A giant sloth foot.
- 30:12Speaker 2: That's what we talked about last time you came on
- 30:14Speaker 2: the show. That was wild. That was wild. What a
- 30:16Speaker 2: cool conversation though. And, uh, in, there's so many varieties
- 30:20Speaker 2: of all these cryptids out there. And, and I know cryptid,
- 30:24Speaker 2: I just got reminded this week that cryptid is a
- 30:26Speaker 2: really interesting word because for some of the researchers out there,
- 30:31Speaker 2: including some of my friends out at the LBL, they
- 30:33Speaker 2: don't believe that like Bigfoots and Dogman are even cryptids
- 30:38Speaker 2: because that's something that, you know, it's just, to me,
- 30:42Speaker 2: it's just something that the scientific community has not verified basically. Right.
- 30:47Speaker 2: And to them, like, I don't know, they like to
- 30:52Speaker 2: call them inhumanoids. Like, shout out to Barton Nunley. Shout
- 30:55Speaker 2: out to Barton. Okay. He calls them inhumanoids. And I
- 30:58Speaker 2: kind of can see where he's coming from. I kind
- 31:01Speaker 2: of can, right?
- 31:02Speaker 3: I think cryptid and cryptid in mind speak is something
- 31:08Speaker 3: that we picked up through researching is just sitting around
- 31:13Speaker 3: the campfire talking. And it's easier to say that than
- 31:17Speaker 3: to remember inhumanoids. It's easy to say cryptid or mind
- 31:23Speaker 3: speak instead of telepathy. Sometimes when I'm out in the
- 31:27Speaker 3: woods and I'm dry-mouthed or I'm sitting around a campfire
- 31:31Speaker 3: and whether I got a beer in my hand or whatever,
- 31:35Speaker 3: inhumanoid sometimes doesn't come out just right.
- 31:38Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listen, if we go by that, I
- 31:40Speaker 2: have to change my name to the Inhumanoid Huntress, and
- 31:43Speaker 2: that sounds weird, okay?
- 31:45Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 31:46Speaker 2: The Inhumanoid Huntress, what? Okay, well, it kind of sounds cool, actually.
- 31:51Speaker 2: But anyways, it is what it is. It's all about perception,
- 31:56Speaker 2: how you see things.
- 31:57Speaker 3: You know. Right, and I think a lot of things
- 32:00Speaker 3: in the LBL, the reason why it's called Inhumanoids, like
- 32:06Speaker 3: what I deal with on the warrior's path and stuff,
- 32:09Speaker 3: and I'm not saying I won't get killed or eaten
- 32:11Speaker 3: tomorrow or unalived, I should say, but I think a
- 32:14Speaker 3: lot of things in the LBL, or more aggressive and
- 32:19Speaker 3: more out to hurt you than they are in most places,
- 32:24Speaker 3: other places like what I deal with. So you have
- 32:28Speaker 3: to have to watch your back, and you need to
- 32:29Speaker 3: go in with a group of people. Where in places
- 32:32Speaker 3: I go, I generally go by myself, pack a few
- 32:35Speaker 3: MREs and stuff, and just stay the night. Sometimes I'll
- 32:39Speaker 3: stay weeks. One particular year, I had got so... connected
- 32:47Speaker 3: with a Bigfoot family. I was 17 years old. I
- 32:54Speaker 3: didn't come out of the woods for two years. You know,
- 32:58Speaker 3: and that's hard to believe, but I stayed in the
- 33:00Speaker 3: woods for two years.
- 33:02Speaker 2: What?
- 33:03Speaker 3: Yeah. Bruce. Yes.
- 33:05Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
- 33:06Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's helped me. It helped me through life
- 33:10Speaker 3: a whole lot too. Of course, It wasn't cell phones
- 33:17Speaker 3: and stuff back then, but my parents had drop points
- 33:21Speaker 3: alongside of a road or something to drop me boxes
- 33:24Speaker 3: of food and stuff off. And then I would come
- 33:27Speaker 3: out every two weeks and pick that up and then
- 33:30Speaker 3: head back. But I was just obsessed with these Bigfoot
- 33:42Speaker 3: because they looked, the ones I were dealing with, were human,
- 33:47Speaker 3: but covered in hair. And they didn't know a language
- 33:53Speaker 3: that I understood. It was because I come from a
- 33:56Speaker 3: civilized world, they come from their civilized world. So they
- 34:00Speaker 3: were two different languages. But we knew each other's actions.
- 34:05Speaker 3: It was like, it wasn't what you could call mind speak.
- 34:09Speaker 3: We just knew what the other one was fixing to do,
- 34:12Speaker 3: whether we were going to get up and And go
- 34:15Speaker 3: for a walk. And they were more hunter-gatherers, meaning they
- 34:19Speaker 3: were more gathering nut crops and plants and stuff. And
- 34:23Speaker 3: I can remember getting sick for three days and them
- 34:28Speaker 3: making a paste and giving it to me. And then
- 34:34Speaker 3: they made a drink out of mullein, a plant called mullein.
- 34:40Speaker 3: And I watched them take that and boil it. But
- 34:46Speaker 3: they didn't strain it off, so the hairs on that
- 34:48Speaker 3: mullet tickled my throat, sort of made it scratchy. And
- 34:52Speaker 3: then before it was over with, I had that deep,
- 34:56Speaker 3: curled up voice like them trying to pronounce stuff. So
- 35:03Speaker 3: it's a strange, it's so fascinating to me at that time.
- 35:10Speaker 3: And I weren't scared of them. They never made any attempt.
- 35:14Speaker 3: but to help me and protect me. They never made
- 35:17Speaker 3: any attempt to hurt me, challenge me. It was like
- 35:24Speaker 3: a wolf pack. When I run into Dog Man, a
- 35:27Speaker 3: lot of times, if it's more than one, there's going
- 35:30Speaker 3: to be a leader. So I looked down like you
- 35:33Speaker 3: would a wolf pack. It's not the head of the pack.
- 35:36Speaker 3: The rest of them sort of look down or what
- 35:39Speaker 3: they call cower down, sort of drop your head and
- 35:42Speaker 3: look down. Same way with a gorilla pack. You don't
- 35:46Speaker 3: want to look the male, the big males in the eyes. Well,
- 35:49Speaker 3: Bigfoot's different. They get more vocal. Every one of them
- 35:57Speaker 3: has a purpose. And what I mean by that is
- 36:00Speaker 3: every day they have a job to do. Whether one's
- 36:06Speaker 3: gathering nuts, vegetation, the other may be going after small game.
- 36:13Speaker 3: meaning getting in the rivers, catching fish, stuff like that,
- 36:18Speaker 3: and they're experts at it. So I spent those two years.
- 36:23Speaker 3: That's something that I've never talked about. Only my parents
- 36:28Speaker 3: knew about it until now.
- 36:31Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Well, thank you for sharing that with us.
- 36:33Speaker 2: I did not know that. So you are a real
- 36:35Speaker 2: wild man, for real.
- 36:37Speaker 3: That's what the communities in Middle Tennessee always do. So
- 36:43Speaker 3: the mountains called me the wild man.
- 36:45Speaker 2: The wild man.
- 36:46Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, Bruce. Most of them didn't know my name.
- 36:49Speaker 3: They only knew me as the wild man.
- 36:52Speaker 2: The wild man. I can appreciate that. Listen, I think
- 36:56Speaker 2: that's cool. You know, actually, with my Bigfoot research team,
- 37:00Speaker 2: we kind of joked around. We didn't just joke around.
- 37:02Speaker 2: We were being serious about actually doing like a week-long
- 37:07Speaker 2: survivalist kind of situation where we would all be dropped
- 37:11Speaker 2: off in different places. areas where we would have to
- 37:14Speaker 2: go live off the land for like a week.
- 37:15Speaker 3: Okay.
- 37:17Speaker 2: For a week. You were there for way longer than that. Okay.
- 37:21Speaker 2: A week was scary sounding to me.
- 37:22Speaker 3: I come out. Well, I actually come out two months
- 37:26Speaker 3: before my two years were up. I come out in
- 37:29Speaker 3: late November. I went in when I first went in,
- 37:32Speaker 3: I went in and I think it was the third
- 37:34Speaker 3: or fourth of January. And then two years later, I,
- 37:39Speaker 3: I come out and, uh, uh, Late November. And the
- 37:44Speaker 3: only reason why I come out then is I was
- 37:47Speaker 3: sort of hankering for some Thanksgiving dinner. Oh, my gosh, Bruce.
- 37:52Speaker 2: We're going to have to talk about this more in
- 37:54Speaker 2: the future sometime. Because that's wild. I had no idea
- 37:57Speaker 2: that you did that. And super cool. That's why you're
- 38:01Speaker 2: so in tune with nature, I think.
- 38:04Speaker 3: I love it. I spent a little over a year
- 38:10Speaker 3: in a cave. with them yes and I'll be straight
- 38:18Speaker 3: with you the the smell can get real bad you
- 38:24Speaker 3: know right in front of a cave we had a
- 38:27Speaker 3: good running stream with deep water I'd get in it
- 38:30Speaker 3: and take a bath and stuff but they also watched
- 38:36Speaker 3: me and would copy me and I would copy them
- 38:39Speaker 3: too so you learn a lot And these things are
- 38:43Speaker 3: not the ones I had experience with, except one, were
- 38:49Speaker 3: all nurturing. You'll hear from time to time, I watch
- 38:58Speaker 3: the news and I get real intrigued when I hear
- 39:02Speaker 3: a toddler being lost, but a bear brought the toddler
- 39:07Speaker 3: back to the camp, to the backyard. But was it
- 39:14Speaker 3: really a bear? I mean, we have to. That's what
- 39:19Speaker 3: goes through my mind because they are protective. If you're
- 39:25Speaker 3: in their group, they'll protect you.
- 39:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I always tell people. all those kids that get
- 39:31Speaker 2: lost in the forest and then they say a bear
- 39:34Speaker 2: took care of them throughout the night that was not
- 39:36Speaker 2: a bear there's no way a bear would have eaten
- 39:38Speaker 2: them probably right.
- 39:41Speaker 3: A bear is a carnival that's his main ingredient that's
- 39:45Speaker 3: his main food source yes.
- 39:47Speaker 2: He likes tasty children Okay, probably. I hate to say that,
- 39:52Speaker 2: but especially a hungry bear. Maybe a bear that's not
- 39:55Speaker 2: hungry wouldn't mess with the kid, but I think a
- 39:58Speaker 2: hungry bear is going to eat whatever it can get
- 40:00Speaker 2: its claws on.
- 40:01Speaker 3: Yeah, we had one up here in the Cherokee National
- 40:05Speaker 3: Forest in the swimming area we always went to. A
- 40:09Speaker 3: bear showed up there, and women and kids were there swimming.
- 40:14Speaker 3: There weren't any men around there. And I hadn't gone
- 40:18Speaker 3: up there that particular day. And a bear got a
- 40:25Speaker 3: nine-year-old girl. And when we set up a search team
- 40:30Speaker 3: to find her, we found the bear with her half-eaten body. Oh, no.
- 40:39Speaker 3: When the bear was unalive, we immediately cut the stomach
- 40:43Speaker 3: open and the human parts fell out.
- 40:47Speaker 2: Well, you're saying that to just be an example for like, look,
- 40:51Speaker 2: bears are probably not going to take care of children
- 40:54Speaker 2: all night and be loving and empathetic to them. They're
- 40:58Speaker 2: going to probably eat them.
- 41:00Speaker 3: Right.
- 41:01Speaker 2: Unfortunately.
- 41:02Speaker 3: That's why you can't. Gatlinburg right now, this is sad.
- 41:06Speaker 3: In Gatlinburg right now, this year alone, and we're not
- 41:09Speaker 3: even done with the year, they've already had to euthanize
- 41:13Speaker 3: 60 bears.
- 41:15Speaker 2: 60?
- 41:16Speaker 3: My goodness. 60. And that's bad because people, tourists want
- 41:22Speaker 3: to get close to them, take pictures, they feed them.
- 41:25Speaker 3: And of course, it's not all their fault because they
- 41:28Speaker 3: do tear into dumpsters. They can rip padlocks off of
- 41:32Speaker 3: dumpsters and get into them. They can bust out car
- 41:36Speaker 3: windows and get in. So it's best when you go
- 41:39Speaker 3: to Gatlinburg that you leave no food in the car,
- 41:43Speaker 3: keep all the windows locked up and the doors locked
- 41:46Speaker 3: because These bears have got smart. They can stick their
- 41:49Speaker 3: claws under the door handle and pop a door open.
- 41:52Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
- 41:53Speaker 3: And now they're walking down Main Street, going into candy shops,
- 42:00Speaker 3: all this. And it's all because of human interaction. Now
- 42:04Speaker 3: they associate us with an easy meal, whether that be
- 42:09Speaker 3: food or us.
- 42:12Speaker 2: Don't be an easy meal, y'all.
- 42:15Speaker 3: I'm sure out of that 60, there was probably a
- 42:17Speaker 3: few people that were killed in it. Oh, yeah.
- 42:22Speaker 2: Man, that's tragic. Absolutely. Well, let me take a quick
- 42:27Speaker 2: commercial break. I want to thank Bobby Singleton for gifting
- 42:30Speaker 2: those Cryptid Huntress Hunt Club memberships. Thank you so much, Bobby.
- 42:34Speaker 2: I appreciate you. And Angel, thank you so much for
- 42:37Speaker 2: your support. Y'all over there are going to be fine.
- 42:40Speaker 2: I have faith the hurricane won't reach us. I hope not.
- 42:44Speaker 3: I hope not.
- 42:45Speaker 2: It's actually, it's going to make some landfall. I don't
- 42:47Speaker 2: know how bad it's going to be. But if we
- 42:51Speaker 2: visualize it not hurting everybody and stuff, I don't know.
- 42:54Speaker 2: Maybe we can de-escalate it a little bit, y'all. Okay.
- 42:57Speaker 2: The power of prayer is huge. Okay. So let's work
- 43:01Speaker 2: on that. Okay. Well, let's get into this Shunka Warakan, Bruce.
- 43:08Speaker 2: Because this thing is a little bit interesting. It's a
- 43:11Speaker 2: lot interesting, actually. And, uh, and what is put out
- 43:15Speaker 2: into the public with this thing is one taxidermed wolf
- 43:20Speaker 2: with a long skinny snout. I'm going to show some
- 43:23Speaker 2: pictures of it a minute, but before this creature was
- 43:26Speaker 2: actually shot and taxidermed, there were talks and tales of this,
- 43:31Speaker 2: like through oral tradition with the indigenous people around Montana and, uh,
- 43:36Speaker 2: and probably all over the country.
- 43:38Speaker 3: Okay.
- 43:38Speaker 2: Um, about this hyena wolf. Okay.
- 43:42Speaker 3: Okay.
- 43:42Speaker 2: Now, the United States is not supposed to have hyenas, Bruce. However,
- 43:46Speaker 2: in the Appalachian Mountains, there have been reports of hyenas
- 43:50Speaker 2: throughout at least the past century, and people report more
- 43:56Speaker 2: commonly than any other dogman that I know of, hyena-type dogmen.
- 44:01Speaker 2: Have you ever encountered a hyena-type dogman?
- 44:08Speaker 3: If I did, I really didn't know because of, The
- 44:10Speaker 3: short snout ones could have been a hyena. The markings
- 44:16Speaker 3: on the body, the lines on the body could have
- 44:19Speaker 3: been like a mixture, like a hybrid. Generally, other than
- 44:29Speaker 3: the dog man puppy, most of them I deal with
- 44:32Speaker 3: have long tails. The The one that I dealt with
- 44:41Speaker 3: that could have been a hyena had the sloping back
- 44:45Speaker 3: with the shorter legs, but the bigger front and the
- 44:52Speaker 3: cropped ears, short ears. Just about almost no ear, to
- 44:56Speaker 3: be honest with you. No hood above the ear, you know.
- 45:03Speaker 2: Well, a lot of dogmen are described as having a mane. Okay,
- 45:08Speaker 2: like a mane. Like a lot of hair on their
- 45:10Speaker 2: necks and around their heads kind of. And then a
- 45:14Speaker 2: hump back. Kind of like this that we're looking at.
- 45:17Speaker 2: Now this is supposed to be a picture of a
- 45:20Speaker 2: Shunko Warakan right here. And I find this interesting because
- 45:24Speaker 2: this is very much how a lot of the dog
- 45:27Speaker 2: men are described. Very much so. And that looks kind
- 45:31Speaker 2: of like a hyena there.
- 45:33Speaker 3: Let's see.
- 45:34Speaker 2: Here's the Shunko Warakan. in a taxidermy situation here it
- 45:43Speaker 2: says the beast madison valley history association museum all right
- 45:51Speaker 2: so that's the one that's in a museum here we
- 45:54Speaker 2: go that just looks like a dog or a wolf
- 45:57Speaker 2: or something like that i mean i was even thinking
- 46:01Speaker 2: thylacine isn't that called a thylacine bruce but maybe just
- 46:07Speaker 2: like a black one.
- 46:10Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be. You see that shorter legs and
- 46:15Speaker 3: the tail curled up? That could have like whoop DNA
- 46:22Speaker 3: in it. Or even what we call a coy dog DNA,
- 46:29Speaker 3: meaning a tame dog that bred with this.
- 46:37Speaker 2: Or you know what else it could be? It could
- 46:38Speaker 2: be like a deformed wolf too. You know, I was
- 46:42Speaker 2: thinking they've had that real popular little raccoon that's been
- 46:45Speaker 2: all over the place and it has a, it has
- 46:46Speaker 2: some kind of genetic mutation. They call it Jimothy or
- 46:50Speaker 2: Timothy or something like that.
- 46:53Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 46:54Speaker 2: He's got like a short torso and like super long
- 46:57Speaker 2: legs and stuff. Like this could be some sort of what,
- 47:01Speaker 2: what's what we're looking at right here. And even, even
- 47:05Speaker 2: in these pictures right here, I mean, this, These could
- 47:07Speaker 2: be some kind of deformed, you know, genetically mutated wolf
- 47:13Speaker 2: or a dog.
- 47:14Speaker 3: Like a chukarab or whatever you call it.
- 47:16Speaker 2: Chukacabra. Why can't I say it? Chukacabra. It could be
- 47:21Speaker 2: a mixture, yeah. It could be. And that looks more
- 47:26Speaker 2: like a thylacine. Okay, right there.
- 47:30Speaker 3: It does.
- 47:30Speaker 2: But these are pictures of how this thing has been described. Okay, so.
- 47:35Speaker 2: there's that. Now I wanted to say, you know, this is,
- 47:37Speaker 2: this is the thumbnail for the, the show that I
- 47:40Speaker 2: did where we did, I talked about my, my dogman
- 47:43Speaker 2: encounter out of Alabama. And what I saw was like
- 47:47Speaker 2: a hyena, panther that looked like a small bear. Now
- 47:52Speaker 2: a hyena and a panther, I mean, that's kind of
- 47:55Speaker 2: a weird combination, right? But that's what it was all black.
- 47:57Speaker 2: It didn't have spots on it or anything. Um, and
- 48:00Speaker 2: it was the size of a bear, a skinny bear. But, um,
- 48:05Speaker 2: But I'm wondering if maybe what I saw could have
- 48:08Speaker 2: been whatever these things are.
- 48:10Speaker 4: Yes.
- 48:12Speaker 2: And I think it is.
- 48:14Speaker 3: I believe it is because if you'll notice, the dogman
- 48:20Speaker 3: has that mane you're talking about.
- 48:22Speaker 2: Yes.
- 48:23Speaker 3: But the one I encountered and the one you talk
- 48:27Speaker 3: about seems like it had the mane that went down
- 48:30Speaker 3: the top of its back instead of around its neck. Yes.
- 48:35Speaker 2: Absolutely. And what I saw didn't have a mane at
- 48:39Speaker 2: all on it though. Not that I could tell. It
- 48:43Speaker 2: just was very sleek and like shiny almost with the
- 48:47Speaker 2: fur all over its body. And it looked like a
- 48:50Speaker 2: panther or a pit bull hyena. I know that sounds weird.
- 48:55Speaker 2: A pit bull hyena. But that's kind of what it
- 48:58Speaker 2: looked like. I've shown pictures of it before. Of a
- 49:02Speaker 2: dog that's like a cane corso or like a mixture
- 49:06Speaker 2: of a cane corso and a pit bull, I think.
- 49:08Speaker 3: A mastiff, yeah.
- 49:10Speaker 2: A mastiff, kind of. That's what I saw was like...
- 49:13Speaker 2: The ears that it had on it were rounded like
- 49:15Speaker 2: a bear's. Like a hyena. And And they had tufts
- 49:20Speaker 2: of hair coming out of them, too. And it was
- 49:23Speaker 2: all like jet black.
- 49:25Speaker 4: All right.
- 49:26Speaker 2: Well, let's get into whatever this thing is we're talking
- 49:28Speaker 2: about tonight. Because I've got some interesting remote viewing data
- 49:31Speaker 2: on it. And let me just pull up this picture
- 49:33Speaker 2: while we're talking about it. Okay, so in the... Before
- 49:36Speaker 2: the 1900s, there were several... Native American indigenous tribes in
- 49:42Speaker 2: the region around Montana that called the creature Shunka Warunkin,
- 49:47Speaker 2: which translates into carrying off dogs. Man, doesn't that sound familiar?
- 49:53Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of these cryptids we have, they
- 49:55Speaker 2: do carry off dogs, don't.
- 49:57Speaker 3: They, Bruce? Yep. It carries off dogs is the name
- 50:02Speaker 3: of the... I think the Sioux give it that name.
- 50:06Speaker 3: But there was a correct me if I'm wrong on this,
- 50:12Speaker 3: there was a geological difference because from where the Sioux
- 50:16Speaker 3: were and where these were spotted, they said it couldn't correlate.
- 50:21Speaker 3: But after thinking about it for several hours, it could
- 50:27Speaker 3: correlate because the trappers back then would go across the
- 50:36Speaker 3: United States And they could have easily picked up a
- 50:39Speaker 3: Sioux Native American female and took her to that part
- 50:46Speaker 3: of the country and traded her for pelts.
- 50:51Speaker 2: Oh, a woman?
- 50:53Speaker 3: Right. And so she could have given that. That could
- 50:56Speaker 3: have been where the name come that far south because
- 51:00Speaker 3: where they're from was further east. So they debated. That
- 51:06Speaker 3: couldn't have. Since that's what they called them, that name
- 51:13Speaker 3: that carries off dogs couldn't have been used by that group,
- 51:17Speaker 3: but I believe it was from fur traders or other
- 51:20Speaker 3: tribes because they did not interbreed. They did go to
- 51:24Speaker 3: other tribes to pick wives. So, yes, that's very possible.
- 51:32Speaker 2: That's very interesting. An interesting side of history we don't
- 51:35Speaker 2: hear about very often. OK, and OK, so the first
- 51:41Speaker 2: documented sighting of the Shunka Warakan were by settlers back
- 51:46Speaker 2: in the 1880s when members of the Hutchins family settled
- 51:51Speaker 2: down in the Madison River Valley in the lower part
- 51:53Speaker 2: of Montana. Now, not long after they settled into the area, they,
- 51:58Speaker 2: along with several other locals, began to encounter strange wolf
- 52:02Speaker 2: like an A. They said A like one. Strange wolf-like animal.
- 52:08Speaker 2: And let's see. There's a fellow named Ross Hutchins who
- 52:13Speaker 2: wrote a book. He published a book in 1997 called
- 52:18Speaker 2: Nature's Mysteries, The Life of a Working Naturalist. He wrote
- 52:22Speaker 2: the following description of some of the encounters his grandfather
- 52:27Speaker 2: had with the Shunko Warakan. He said, One winter morning,
- 52:31Speaker 2: my grandfather was aroused by the barking of dogs. He
- 52:34Speaker 2: discovered that a wolf-like beast of dark color was chasing
- 52:37Speaker 2: my grandmother's geese. He fired his gun at the animal,
- 52:41Speaker 2: but missed. It ran off down the river, but several
- 52:44Speaker 2: mornings later, it was there. I actually have the full
- 52:50Speaker 2: story of this. I only have a piece of it
- 52:51Speaker 2: right here. I'm going to get to the full story
- 52:53Speaker 2: in a minute. He named this thing. He called it
- 52:59Speaker 2: the Ringdocus. The Rheondocus. I'm sure I'm pronouncing that wrong.
- 53:05Speaker 2: Rheondocus or Rheondicus. Okay. And Rheondocus is the name given
- 53:10Speaker 2: to an unidentified animal shot by Israel Hutchins. This is
- 53:15Speaker 2: a Mormon settler in Montana in 1886. Hutchins had it
- 53:18Speaker 2: stuffed by a local named Joseph Sherwood who put it
- 53:22Speaker 2: on display at his general store at Henry's Lake, Idaho
- 53:25Speaker 2: until the 1980s when it mysteriously disappeared. DNA testing has
- 53:30Speaker 2: never been conducted on this animal. Now, I think this
- 53:33Speaker 2: is the same one right here, if I'm not mistaken.
- 53:36Speaker 2: I think it's that one. In 2007, Jack Kirby, grandson
- 53:41Speaker 2: of the man who shot the animal, tracked it down
- 53:43Speaker 2: to the Idaho Museum of Natural History in Pocatello. The
- 53:48Speaker 2: specimen was displayed at the Madison Valley History Museum when
- 53:51Speaker 2: it reopened in May of 2007. Oh, my goodness. Now,
- 53:56Speaker 2: that just looks like a coyote to me, Bruce. What
- 53:58Speaker 2: do you think? Well.
- 54:00Speaker 3: Well, that many years gone by and it being taxidermist,
- 54:04Speaker 3: hair would have fell out, the looks would have changed.
- 54:07Speaker 3: So it's really hard to tell. I mean, it really is. Taxidermist,
- 54:13Speaker 3: was that 1906? No, 1886. Yeah, 1880s. So the taxidermist
- 54:21Speaker 3: put it on display in 1906 and then that come out.
- 54:26Speaker 3: When did you say that one come out?
- 54:29Speaker 2: Well, Let's see. It was 2007.
- 54:34Speaker 3: Yes.
- 54:34Speaker 2: He tracked it down at the Natural History, the Museum
- 54:38Speaker 2: of Natural History in Pocatello. Okay.
- 54:41Speaker 1: 2007.
- 54:41Speaker 3: My next question is, is if the officials got involved,
- 54:47Speaker 3: then they would know.
- 54:48Speaker 2: Switched it out?
- 54:50Speaker 3: Right. They would know. He wouldn't know what it looked like,
- 54:53Speaker 3: so they just switched it out.
- 54:55Speaker 2: How often do you think that happens, by the way?
- 54:57Speaker 2: Do you think that that kind of, you know, like
- 54:59Speaker 2: the Smithsonian will like come in and like take your
- 55:02Speaker 2: specimen and say they're going to keep it for safekeeping
- 55:06Speaker 2: and you never see it again? Like, what are the
- 55:07Speaker 2: odds of like animals that were very unusual, let's just say,
- 55:12Speaker 2: and enigmatic getting taken by places like these natural museums
- 55:16Speaker 2: of history and being maybe even switched out for dogs
- 55:20Speaker 2: and wolves?
- 55:22Speaker 3: Right, right. Or aliens. They've done the aliens the same way.
- 55:27Speaker 3: They brought a totally different species of aliens out to
- 55:30Speaker 3: show the public than what it actually was.
- 55:36Speaker 1: Oh, man.
- 55:37Speaker 2: I think we're on to something, Bruce. I really do. Okay, well,
- 55:42Speaker 2: it says, over many years, the Hutchins story was all
- 55:45Speaker 2: but forgotten until cryptozoologist Mark A. Hall uncovered the story
- 55:49Speaker 2: after a creature or group of creatures resembling the skunk,
- 55:54Speaker 2: the skunk, the skunk of Moroccan were sighted in Nebraska, Iowa, Alberta,
- 56:01Speaker 2: and Illinois. So that's like all over in North America, Bruce.
- 56:06Speaker 2: It's not just Montana. In 1995, Lance Foster, an Iowa
- 56:13Speaker 2: Indian told renowned cryptozoologist, Lauren Coleman that, Of a creature
- 56:18Speaker 2: he and his tribe called the Shunka Warakan that looks
- 56:22Speaker 2: something like a hyena. And it cried like a human
- 56:27Speaker 2: when it was unalived. And that's something that I heard
- 56:30Speaker 2: over and over again. This research was that it sounded
- 56:32Speaker 2: like a human. But, you know, but then again, like
- 56:37Speaker 2: if you're out in the woods enough, you hear cats
- 56:39Speaker 2: and stuff. That sounds like a woman screaming.
- 56:42Speaker 3: You hear two bobcats in a tree fighting. You will
- 56:45Speaker 3: swear it's an elderly woman screaming for help.
- 56:50Speaker 4: Exactly.
- 56:53Speaker 3: Now, I noticed something about those states you named in Canada. Yeah.
- 56:58Speaker 3: Right across the border into Canada. All those states you
- 57:01Speaker 3: named were heavy corn growers. So they used chemicals and
- 57:07Speaker 3: stuff so that they could create something there. Because a
- 57:13Speaker 3: lot of corn is used in ethanol gas. GMO. Right.
- 57:19Speaker 3: They could have easily created another species. Ooh.
- 57:26Speaker 2: That's a good point. I didn't think about that. Wow. Well. Okay. Well,
- 57:34Speaker 2: in December of 2005, a strange wolf-like animal began unaliving
- 57:39Speaker 2: livestock in in the Macon, Garfield, and Dawson counties of Montana.
- 57:44Speaker 2: By October of 2006, the animal, now known as the
- 57:47Speaker 2: creature of Macon County, had unalived more than 120 various
- 57:53Speaker 2: forms of livestock. I heard they were mostly sheep. And
- 57:57Speaker 2: it appeared in several news articles, including one in the
- 58:00Speaker 2: May 2006 issue of the USA Today. And on November
- 58:06Speaker 2: 2nd of 2006, the Montana Wildlife Service shot and killed
- 58:12Speaker 2: a creature that may have been responsible for some of
- 58:14Speaker 2: those deaths. So, wow. So it made like a strong combat.
- 58:19Speaker 2: Something did in 2005 and 2006, Bruce. Interesting. Originally thought
- 58:28Speaker 2: to be a wolf, the animal that was shot showed
- 58:31Speaker 2: characteristics that were not common with any wolf species known
- 58:34Speaker 2: in that area. The animal appeared to have orange, red,
- 58:39Speaker 2: and yellow fur, whereas wolves known to live in the
- 58:41Speaker 2: area have gray, black, and brown fur. The muscle tissue
- 58:45Speaker 2: was sent to University of California, Los Angeles, where DNA
- 58:48Speaker 2: samples were taken in an attempt to compare it to
- 58:51Speaker 2: the Northern Rockies wolf. The carcass was sent to the
- 58:54Speaker 2: National Fish and Wildlife Forensic Laboratory in Ashland, Oregon for
- 59:01Speaker 2: genetic study. However, no record of the results of these
- 59:04Speaker 2: studies could be found at this time. So there's no
- 59:09Speaker 2: telling what that... thing was. It could have been an asset.
- 59:13Speaker 2: I don't know. What do you think? A government asset
- 59:15Speaker 2: that was walking on two feet.
- 59:18Speaker 3: The colors wouldn't match anything. Yes, I mean, again, genetically
- 59:29Speaker 3: High breeding, I call it. Mixing to see what they
- 59:33Speaker 3: can come up with.
- 59:35Speaker 2: Probably eating that GMO corn is changing all of us, right?
- 59:38Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they genetically altered dogs that would be
- 59:44Speaker 3: small enough to go into gopher holes to pull out gophers.
- 59:49Speaker 3: So that's a good possibility. Oh, yeah.
- 59:54Speaker 2: Well, okay, a lot of people think that these shunka...
- 59:58Speaker 2: warunkans have a very spiritual nature to them, a very
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: supernatural nature to them, Bruce. And they're not just flesh
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: and blood and flesh and bone. They're actually something that's
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: more spiritual. And, uh, and they are almost like interdimensional,
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: dare I say, kind of like Bigfoot and dog man
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: and stuff like that. And, uh, you know, we've gotten
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: in conversations in the past about the black dogs and, uh,
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: I don't know, hellhounds and stuff like that. I'm not
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: saying these are hellhounds, but they're very aggressive. They're also
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: seen with red eyes at times. And some people do
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: connect the red eyes and the red eye shine, the
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: red eye glow with demonic creatures.
- 1:00:44Speaker 3: Bruce. Yeah.
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: I don't know if I always do, but a lot
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: of people do. How do you feel about that?
- 1:00:52Speaker 3: It's like the black Alaskan wolf always shows up right
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: before something happens. You might see him across the stream
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: on a ridge, snow-covered, a black wolf. And everywhere you go,
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: up and down through there, fishing or hunting, he just
- 1:01:11Speaker 3: stays just right out of gun range. And then generally
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: something bad happens. So, yes, I believe that's... I guess
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: I'll just go ahead and say it. Shapeshifters. I believe
- 1:01:34Speaker 3: that to be shapeshifter.
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: That's what people think. That's the consensus, Bruce, is that
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: these things are actually shapeshifters. And I got to tell you,
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: when we go over my data tonight, I can't say
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: that that's 100% crazy wrong. Okay, because my remote viewing
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: data suggest that these may be some sort of an
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: interdimensional shape-shifting creature, I think. And as weird as that sounds,
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: I don't know, like I told you, Bruce, before we
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: started the show tonight, I was like, we're going to
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: go down a weird rabbit hole tonight when we get
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: to that data.
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: Well, it's not been super weird, though, because we've been
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: able to connect the dots to a point when you
- 1:02:24Speaker 3: got into like the What you saw, the dogman that
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: looked like a hyena versus what was mounted or killed
- 1:02:37Speaker 3: by Isaac Hutchins. Then when you span that globe of
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: all those witnesses in between there and from then to now,
- 1:02:52Speaker 3: I think we're in the right rabbit hole.
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: The right rabbit hole. We're in a rabbit hole. That's
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: for sure. Uh, we are. And, uh, and, and I have,
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: I mean, I really do feel like I've taken more
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: reports of hyena type dogman than I have of any
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: other type of dogman. So whether there's a connection to
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: all this or not, I don't know. Okay. But, um,
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: but like I said, I do like connecting these dots. So, um,
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: let's see, let me see if there's any more notes.
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: I have a ton of notes on this stuff. Okay. But, uh,
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: but I'm thinking maybe we should just get to the
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: remote viewing data. Okay. Cause I know I got a
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: lot of stuff I need to be doing. I got
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: to go to Kentucky this weekend.
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: So let's just get into the data. Let's dive in.
- 1:03:35Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: So I think that's a good idea.
- 1:03:39Speaker 3: You're going to be setting history. So everybody that can
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: go out there and watch Jessica, please do. The first
- 1:03:47Speaker 3: woman to ever talk like that. That's, that's fantastic.
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: I mean, I was actually, like, I got called by
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: so many people yesterday. They're like, Jessica, you're going to be,
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: you don't understand how big this is. And I'm not
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: from Kentucky, y'all. So I told him, I was like,
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: I don't even know if I'm qualified to do this
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: this weekend.
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: You're more than qualified.
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I appreciate that. And, well, the OGs,
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: I call them the OGs, the original gangsters, okay, from
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: up there to LBL, they're the ones that have asked
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: me to do it. Okay, so I will step to
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: the forefront. Okay, I will do it when asked. OK,
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: if I need to. And I've had some weird experiences
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: up there. So, yeah, y'all please come see me. I
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: know we got I got some good friends who won't
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: come up there. Come see us. OK, well, let's get
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: to this remote viewing data. Let's see. There's there's just
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: three pages. It's not a ton of data on the
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: Shanka Warankan.
- 1:04:41Speaker 3: OK.
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: And and this is.
- 1:04:43Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: Here's the question. OK, here are the questions about this.
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: Is this an actual wolf? Is it a flesh and
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: bone creature? Okay. Is it just a flesh and bone creature?
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: Or is there something more to it? Let's see. Because
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: some people believe. Let me get my notes here. Because
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: I typed up a whole bunch of notes.
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: Is it an unknown predator? Is it a dire wolf relic?
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: Which is a possibility, Bruce. Is it a hyena relic?
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: It could just be a straight-up hyena. And we do
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: have hyenas in the Appalachian Mountains. They have been found.
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: And when people ask, like, how do we get to
- 1:05:27Speaker 2: hyenas here? Think about, like, prehistory. I mean, like, our
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: history books are wrong. I'm just going to say it.
- 1:05:35Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: I don't believe our history books. I think that we've
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: been lied to about our history. But there is evidence that, like,
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: the Egyptians came over here and there were different civilizations
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: here a long time ago. And potentially, all those rich people,
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: they have little, what do they call them, menageries of
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: exotic animals when they travel. I would think that, you know,
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: the Egyptians come over here or someone who's like, you know,
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: African kings and queens or whoever's traveling, they have their
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: menageries of hyenas, right? And maybe some of them get loose.
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: Maybe they let them loose. You know what I mean?
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: So there's that. It's just an idea. Could they be hyenas?
- 1:06:16Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah, and there's the train wrecks, and there's the
- 1:06:22Speaker 3: circuses that went bankrupt. You know they didn't have enough
- 1:06:26Speaker 3: money to send them back to where they got them from,
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: so they just released them because they couldn't even feed them.
- 1:06:33Speaker 2: Or they'd shoot them, I would think.
- 1:06:36Speaker 3: Well, I would think, though, if you're traveling and your
- 1:06:41Speaker 3: job was to take care of them, you would probably
- 1:06:43Speaker 3: release them before you let somebody shoot them. If you
- 1:06:47Speaker 3: heard they was going to shoot them, you would just
- 1:06:48Speaker 3: release them.
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 1:06:51Speaker 3: The day they was going to shoot them. Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: It seems like I covered a couple of lions that
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: had been spotted. Where was that? In Indiana, I think, recently.
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: There was a mama and a baby, I think, lions.
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: They had collars on. And they were just roaming around
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: the streets of Indiana. So, I don't know. Hopefully, nobody
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: shot those things. They found their owners.
- 1:07:15Speaker 3: We had a. giant whoop here in Cobalt, Tennessee, walked
- 1:07:19Speaker 3: down in the city limits, an extremely huge whoop, one
- 1:07:26Speaker 3: of the bigger ones, bigger than the ones they had
- 1:07:28Speaker 3: in Alaska, and it had a giant collar with a
- 1:07:31Speaker 3: canister on it, and I actually had it on a
- 1:07:40Speaker 3: camera and downloaded and I showed that locally here, and
- 1:07:50Speaker 3: then my system got shut down. Oh, it did?
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: Your system?
- 1:07:57Speaker 3: My computer with my files were locked where I couldn't
- 1:08:01Speaker 3: get into them, and then they were gone.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: I tell you what, somebody's messing with us. I tell
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: you what, even my phone carrier at this point, they've
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: been censoring my messages and pictures and stuff. I know
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: I'm not that technologically advanced. you know, in advance or whatever.
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: Like I know where my stuff is and, uh, and
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: I just, yeah, it's weird. Sometimes, uh, we, we go to,
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: we have this really good evidence. We have like stuff
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: that we would like to share or whatever. And it
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: just gets wiped out. I mean, there are forces that have, yeah,
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: they have access to our, our personal data and stuff
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: when they shouldn't.
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: So anyways, well, that sucks. That sucks. Okay, well, what
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: they can't do is take our remote viewing data away
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: from us. Not yet. Okay, so let's get into this.
- 1:08:52Speaker 2: This is for the Shanka Warakin.
- 1:08:57Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: I think I'm pronouncing that right. Let's get into the data.
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: What is this thing? What are these things? And some
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: of my sensors, let's go over the sensory data first.
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: I wrote thin mass. It's a blind target, by the way.
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: I was given a set of number of coordinates.
- 1:09:13Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: Thin mass, solid, ethereal, shift mass. thinning, tough, duplicitous, and broken.
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: Those are my words I wrote down. Now my analytic
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: overlay for this target was, I picked up on debris.
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: I got two ideograms that were space. So I was like,
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: I wrote down space. And what I was seeing was
- 1:09:38Speaker 2: a veil. Like I was seeing something that seemed to
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: be interdimensional or like some kind of, you know how
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: they say like the veil is thinning? Like I was
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: getting that kind of data. So I wrote down between
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: the veil, the veil has thinned. I was seeing something
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: that was like the veil is thin and there's something
- 1:09:56Speaker 2: that's like ethereal, but there's a mass to it. If
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: that makes sense. I know that sounds kind of weird, right?
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: So I wrote down massive mass matter, alchemy, changeling was
- 1:10:08Speaker 2: in my data changeling. Okay. Record and records walk the line.
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: Good and good and evil records. I wrote down good
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: and evil, interdimensional, multidimensional, plane of existence, and moving around. Now,
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm explaining this very well because
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: it's kind of hard to interpret like what I was
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: seeing and like putting it on paper. What I was
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: seeing was like something walking between dimensions or something like
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: an object that was stuck between dimensions. Maybe that's a
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: better way to put it. Something that was like a
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: solid mass and there were It was like one foot
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: in the three dimensional world and like a foot in
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: the other dimensions, like the higher dimensions, if you know
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: what I mean. And, uh, and I actually, I drew
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: a chart, my second page. If you guys want to
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: see all the data, it's on my Patreon, by the way. Um,
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: so what, okay. So what I was seeing was like a,
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: I wrote down a Rubik's cube. I've written that down before, uh,
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: which was like a, um, like a grid or something.
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: And I was seeing something that was like solid thinning
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: and consciousness. Okay. So it was something that was like,
- 1:11:24Speaker 2: it was solid, but it was also like spiritual in
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: a way or something like that. And I wrote down
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: battle scars, old soul and solid form. Okay. So solid,
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: solid form was in there. Okay. Let's go to the
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: last page. Okay. So I wrote down three dimensional, which
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: means like, In this realm, and I know this is
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: all for this, whatever this animal is, right? Whatever the
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: animal is, it's very much solid, right? But I was
- 1:11:56Speaker 2: picking up that it was of a spiritual nature is
- 1:11:59Speaker 2: what I wrote down. And I wrote down ghost or spirit. Ghost,
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: something that traverses space and time. And, but I was also,
- 1:12:09Speaker 2: so here's the weird thing. So like the very end
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: of this target, I was picking up on the woods,
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: the forest and nature. wormholes and portals. I know that
- 1:12:17Speaker 2: sounds weird, but I wrote down cryptids and dogman.
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:12:22Speaker 2: The last thing I wrote down was dogman. And then
- 1:12:24Speaker 2: I ended the session right there.
- 1:12:27Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: So that is just really weird because, um, it seems
- 1:12:33Speaker 2: as though I was picking up on something in the
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: beginning and the end that was very solid. Like it
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: was some kind of a creature, potentially a dogman is
- 1:12:42Speaker 2: what I wrote down. I wrote down dogman. But in
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: the middle of all that, it was picking up on
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: something that was like super like ethereal and interdimensional in
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: the middle there. Okay, Bruce. So does that even make
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: sense to you? Like, it sounds really weird, doesn't it?
- 1:12:58Speaker 3: Well, no, not really. Because if it's spiritual interdimension, meaning
- 1:13:04Speaker 3: like us, we may lose our, we will lose our
- 1:13:10Speaker 3: physical bodies, but not our spirit. So it's spirit interdimensional
- 1:13:16Speaker 3: and it comes and goes pretty much when it wants to.
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I don't know, Bruce, have you heard about
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: the whole, I know you've, you've heard about this, but
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: the department of war just released all those UFO files
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: and they were talking about the portals and the stargates
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: and the wormholes and stuff. I mean, they, I don't
- 1:13:39Speaker 2: think that we're going to get any kind of cryptic
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: disclosure anytime soon. I really don't, other than the aliens, right?
- 1:13:46Speaker 2: And the reptilians, I guess. Reptilians, to me, are considered cryptids.
- 1:13:53Speaker 2: But they've admitted those are real. And they're using wormholes
- 1:13:56Speaker 2: and portals and stuff. So if they're admitting that, we
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: have to kind of apply that to our everyday lives.
- 1:14:04Speaker 2: And my everyday life involves being in the woods at
- 1:14:07Speaker 2: national parks and stuff. Okay, or at any of these places.
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of these creatures are in our
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: national parks and places of, you know, state parks and
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, in the wilderness, I guess
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: we could say.
- 1:14:21Speaker 3: High energy levels is where you're going to find these
- 1:14:27Speaker 3: things at, whether it be quartz, golds, veins. There's so
- 1:14:33Speaker 3: many places. Woods. trees everything in the woods alive you
- 1:14:42Speaker 3: know trees they have their own spirits plants have their
- 1:14:46Speaker 3: own spirits and purposes so what better than uh than
- 1:14:50Speaker 3: to run across these things in those situations.
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: Exactly exactly well in that remote viewing data the one
- 1:15:02Speaker 2: word that sticks out to me is the last thing
- 1:15:04Speaker 2: i wrote down that was dog man okay so I
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: don't know if this is dogma. I don't know if
- 1:15:08Speaker 2: it's interdimensional. There's some, there's a couple of different things
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: that are associated with these things. And it would be
- 1:15:15Speaker 2: like a Wahila, I think, or something that sounds like Wahila.
- 1:15:18Speaker 2: And I think that was one of my other remote
- 1:15:20Speaker 2: viewing targets. And that was something out of the Nahanni Valley,
- 1:15:24Speaker 2: I think is how you pronounce that. And, and that
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: was more like a, it sounds very similar to what
- 1:15:30Speaker 2: this is, I would say. I don't know. Are you
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: familiar with those things?
- 1:15:35Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah, that sounds exactly what these are. Mm-hmm. You know,
- 1:15:40Speaker 3: the Hawaii are the Hawaiian spirits. And the Hawaiians are
- 1:15:50Speaker 3: really big on this spiritual. Thanks. So, yeah. Oh, yeah.
- 1:15:56Speaker 3: The Wahili is what I was trying to say. Wahili.
- 1:16:02Speaker 3: And I think you did talk about that in one
- 1:16:05Speaker 3: of your episodes.
- 1:16:06Speaker 2: I have, I covered the Wahila or I think that's
- 1:16:09Speaker 2: how you pronounce it. And there's a, there's a whole
- 1:16:13Speaker 2: lot of these dogs that are like kind of of a,
- 1:16:16Speaker 2: I hate to say like hell hound or some kind
- 1:16:18Speaker 2: of spiritual, I'd say that spiritual, but it's kind of
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: like almost like not, not fully solid, you know, like
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: not all in the 3d. They're almost of a spiritual nature. And,
- 1:16:28Speaker 2: and so I think, I think that's kind of what
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: that is. Now, those, the Wahila, if that's the same
- 1:16:33Speaker 2: thing we're talking about, they were blamed for all the
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: headless people that were found in the Nahanni Valley. The
- 1:16:40Speaker 2: headless people, Bruce. They call it the Valley of the
- 1:16:44Speaker 2: Headless Men.
- 1:16:44Speaker 3: My aunt and uncle, as kids, went into that valley
- 1:16:54Speaker 3: and found a grave and dug it up. And they
- 1:16:57Speaker 3: were 10 and 11 years old, and they both ended
- 1:17:00Speaker 3: up in the hospital and were no chance of living,
- 1:17:03Speaker 3: but they did live. So something attached to them. Oh, no.
- 1:17:09Speaker 3: My grandfather took them back to that spot, and they
- 1:17:19Speaker 3: were able to live. Back then, you could just take
- 1:17:22Speaker 3: somebody out of the hospital and not have the police
- 1:17:24Speaker 3: or anybody called out on you. When he found out
- 1:17:27Speaker 3: what they did, he took him back to that spot.
- 1:17:31Speaker 3: And then they covered up the grave there. Because these
- 1:17:37Speaker 3: were young kids. They didn't know it was a grave.
- 1:17:40Speaker 3: And they covered it up. And within 24 hours, they
- 1:17:44Speaker 3: were back to being normal kids.
- 1:17:48Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. That sounds very similar to what happened
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: at the Bell Witch property. Actually, with those kids, they
- 1:17:55Speaker 2: got a... I guess the two little boys had like
- 1:17:58Speaker 2: found a skull out of an Indian burial mound and
- 1:18:01Speaker 2: brought it to the house. And the dad was like, no,
- 1:18:03Speaker 2: get that out of here. Go put that back where
- 1:18:05Speaker 2: you found it. And I think, I think what happened
- 1:18:07Speaker 2: was like maybe a tooth or something had fallen out
- 1:18:09Speaker 2: in the, in the crack of the porch or something.
- 1:18:13Speaker 2: And yeah, that, that didn't end well.
- 1:18:18Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:18:19Speaker 2: I'm sorry that happened.
- 1:18:20Speaker 3: That's wild.
- 1:18:22Speaker 2: My goodness.
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: Yes.
- 1:18:24Speaker 3: A few years ago in Buffalo Valley, Tennessee, I went
- 1:18:27Speaker 3: into a cave system and I found the jaw and
- 1:18:34Speaker 3: the teeth of a man, but an extremely large man.
- 1:18:40Speaker 3: And I left it. You know, it took me three
- 1:18:47Speaker 3: hours to get back into this. place. And when I
- 1:18:50Speaker 3: found it, there was no way in my way of
- 1:18:56Speaker 3: thinking that something that big could have got back there
- 1:18:58Speaker 3: because I was having to squeeze and crawl. Unless, you know,
- 1:19:03Speaker 3: over the years, the system, the cave system had collapsed
- 1:19:06Speaker 3: in or sediment had built up. But you could look
- 1:19:10Speaker 3: straight up and stalactites were hanging from the ceilings a
- 1:19:15Speaker 3: good 100 or 150 feet above you. So instead of
- 1:19:21Speaker 3: bringing it out, I left it there for fear of
- 1:19:25Speaker 3: something like that. Bring some bad juju out with you.
- 1:19:31Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it's best not to pull things
- 1:19:34Speaker 2: out of caves or any kind of sacred land, I guess, right?
- 1:19:37Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:19:39Speaker 2: And take it with you. Oh, my gosh.
- 1:19:42Speaker 3: Wow.
- 1:19:43Speaker 2: Yeah, you showed us those videos of those graves inside
- 1:19:46Speaker 2: of the cave a couple shows ago when you came
- 1:19:50Speaker 2: on here.
- 1:19:50Speaker 3: Yeah, we had the Native Americans would dig up the
- 1:19:57Speaker 3: small people and the Bigfoot. Well, the Bigfoot got wise,
- 1:20:02Speaker 3: and they started putting these humongous flat rocks and making boxes.
- 1:20:07Speaker 3: These limestone boxes are 12 and 14 foot long, and
- 1:20:12Speaker 3: they have bottoms, sides, and tops on them. So there's
- 1:20:15Speaker 3: no way you can move them. And then in one spot,
- 1:20:21Speaker 3: I found where an animal had buried a den under
- 1:20:26Speaker 3: this massive boulder. And I run a... You got... A
- 1:20:33Speaker 3: lot of people don't let you go to, I'm not
- 1:20:35Speaker 3: promoting Amazon or nobody, but you can buy these little
- 1:20:38Speaker 3: cameras with 15 to 30 foot cords on them that
- 1:20:42Speaker 3: stick to your cell phone and you can push them
- 1:20:44Speaker 3: down in these holes and you can see on your
- 1:20:47Speaker 3: cell phone and record it. And then I was able
- 1:20:50Speaker 3: to find a big foot skeleton under that. And so
- 1:20:57Speaker 3: all that stuff's interesting and shocking because you wonder how
- 1:21:03Speaker 3: A rock the size of a car got rolled over
- 1:21:06Speaker 3: on top of a grave like that.
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: Oh, I was muted. Probably a giant, maybe. Maybe a
- 1:21:18Speaker 2: giant did that? I mean, I wonder how. How's that
- 1:21:22Speaker 2: get there?
- 1:21:24Speaker 3: Bigfoot. Bigfoot. Oh, yeah. They're real. the ones I've run
- 1:21:31Speaker 3: into are real, real, real protective. And they're like we are.
- 1:21:37Speaker 3: We don't want our buried ones, our buried ones dug
- 1:21:39Speaker 3: up either. Oh yeah. Yeah.
- 1:21:44Speaker 2: That's something that we take very seriously, especially here in
- 1:21:47Speaker 2: North America. We don't, we take burying our loved ones
- 1:21:50Speaker 2: very seriously and you don't mess with the dead.
- 1:21:53Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:21:54Speaker 2: You just don't. And there's even laws against that. Okay.
- 1:21:57Speaker 2: You can't mess with the dead and, and stuff. And, uh, and.
- 1:22:00Speaker 3: So here in Tennessee, we have the cone, the honeycomb graves.
- 1:22:06Speaker 2: Oh yeah. What's that?
- 1:22:07Speaker 3: And that's the graves. It's got the long pieces of, of, uh,
- 1:22:11Speaker 3: limestone rocks that are tinted over the full length of
- 1:22:15Speaker 3: a grave with a limestone front and a limestone back
- 1:22:20Speaker 3: on top of the ground. And that's the, uh, When
- 1:22:28Speaker 3: the Europeans started doing that, they said that's the hold
- 1:22:31Speaker 3: to spirit. One community would say that would keep the
- 1:22:35Speaker 3: animals from digging up the person. So I really don't
- 1:22:38Speaker 3: know the European side of it. Now the Native American
- 1:22:45Speaker 3: side of it is that was their practice, their ritual
- 1:22:52Speaker 3: to preserve that. And they put little canisters of religious
- 1:22:58Speaker 3: and these boxes with them so they could ascend into
- 1:23:09Speaker 3: the stars.
- 1:23:13Speaker 2: Wow, that's very interesting. And I just, this comment caught
- 1:23:18Speaker 2: my attention, Mr. Robert. Thank you, Robert.
- 1:23:21Speaker 4: For this.
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: He said, Brother, were you working at Clay County Sheriff's
- 1:23:25Speaker 2: Office when the Giants were removed from the cave overlooking
- 1:23:28Speaker 2: the Cumberland River?
- 1:23:29Speaker 3: Yes, I was.
- 1:23:31Speaker 2: Can you disclose that?
- 1:23:32Speaker 3: Yes, I was. Uh-oh.
- 1:23:36Speaker 2: Can you talk about it?
- 1:23:39Speaker 3: If he'll ask me specific questions about it, I could
- 1:23:42Speaker 3: answer them.
- 1:23:44Speaker 2: Oh. We'll see.
- 1:23:45Speaker 3: We've got more.
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: Hold on.
- 1:23:47Speaker 2: Let me check the comments then. Robert, ask some good questions, okay?
- 1:23:53Speaker 2: Because I don't know what questions to ask on this one.
- 1:23:57Speaker 2: He said, if you know a story, please tell all.
- 1:24:01Speaker 2: Just tell all.
- 1:24:02Speaker 3: So, wow.
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I can ask. So, there were giant skeletons.
- 1:24:07Speaker 2: Were these human giants? Were they human skeletons, do you think?
- 1:24:14Speaker 3: Yeah, they were human skeletons, but of what origin and purpose?
- 1:24:24Speaker 3: This is going to shock some people. Uh-oh. Some of
- 1:24:31Speaker 3: them are 16 or 18 feet tall. And that's just
- 1:24:34Speaker 3: the bones. That's not the mass of the body itself.
- 1:24:38Speaker 3: So they could have been 21 to 23 feet tall. What?
- 1:24:43Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Robert said, I heard they were werewolves.
- 1:24:46Speaker 2: That's what he heard.
- 1:24:48Speaker 3: They did have chestnuts. Stakes through. Chestnut wood stakes through.
- 1:25:01Speaker 2: Like they were like wooden stakes, like they were vampires
- 1:25:05Speaker 2: or werewolves or something?
- 1:25:07Speaker 3: Right. Wow.
- 1:25:11Speaker 2: Wow, Robert, you get the prize tonight. Okay, that's a
- 1:25:15Speaker 2: wonderful question.
- 1:25:18Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
- 1:25:20Speaker 2: And that was in the Cumberland, near the Cumberland River,
- 1:25:23Speaker 2: Clay County. I've been to Clay County. That's where Whitleyville is,
- 1:25:27Speaker 2: isn't it? Is that Clay County?
- 1:25:29Speaker 3: No, that's Jackson County. That's the county down below Clay County.
- 1:25:32Speaker 2: Okay, because I know I've been through Clay County. I
- 1:25:35Speaker 2: know I've driven through there for sure.
- 1:25:36Speaker 3: I've dealt with these giant skeletons several times. We had
- 1:25:42Speaker 3: one guy that brought it up on, I think pretty
- 1:25:48Speaker 3: much it was your show about me recovering a giant
- 1:25:52Speaker 3: Bigfoot by using it. a rollback record.
- 1:25:57Speaker 2: No, I don't remember that.
- 1:25:58Speaker 3: It was in the comments, yeah.
- 1:26:00Speaker 2: Oh, yeah?
- 1:26:01Speaker 3: Chats, yeah. Wow. Oh, my gosh.
- 1:26:08Speaker 2: Okay. I just had my buddy, MT, on the show yesterday,
- 1:26:12Speaker 2: and he actually had some pictures of, a picture that
- 1:26:17Speaker 2: a kid took, actually, of a giant in Ohio. Because
- 1:26:21Speaker 2: I was asking him about, I played a video about
- 1:26:24Speaker 2: a cave that had giants in it of red haired,
- 1:26:28Speaker 2: you know, 12 to 14 foot giants in it. He
- 1:26:30Speaker 2: was like, well, actually I have a picture that his
- 1:26:32Speaker 2: kid took of this field. And it is a, it
- 1:26:35Speaker 2: looks like a man or a Bigfoot. When you zoom in,
- 1:26:37Speaker 2: it looks like a Bigfoot. When it's zoomed out, it
- 1:26:39Speaker 2: looks like a man, like a giant man. But when
- 1:26:43Speaker 2: you put a comparison beside it of, of humans, like
- 1:26:46Speaker 2: regular size humans standing in the same location beside it,
- 1:26:50Speaker 2: they go to the knees of this, this person or
- 1:26:53Speaker 2: this Bigfoot. I mean, it has to be at least
- 1:26:55Speaker 2: 12 to 14 feet tall. And this was made recently.
- 1:27:00Speaker 2: This is not something from the 1800s or where this
- 1:27:03Speaker 2: was like recently. And so I'm wondering, what is up
- 1:27:08Speaker 2: with that, Bruce?
- 1:27:12Speaker 3: Me and myself and Scott Hunt, I don't know if
- 1:27:16Speaker 3: you've heard of him. Yeah. His wife, Sheila. Oh. me
- 1:27:23Speaker 3: and her were probably the only two that seen the
- 1:27:25Speaker 3: giants that were still alive, that were walking in the
- 1:27:29Speaker 3: Cumberland river and water that was 15 to 18 feet deep.
- 1:27:34Speaker 3: And they were, they were clearly a lot taller than that.
- 1:27:38Speaker 3: They were sticking out from the waist up and they were, uh,
- 1:27:44Speaker 3: picking up mussels and eating them. And when she come through, uh, uh,
- 1:27:51Speaker 3: It had a slight bog on the water. She thought
- 1:27:54Speaker 3: it was a gigantic stump sticking up, but she had
- 1:27:57Speaker 3: drove through it so many times she knew it couldn't be.
- 1:28:01Speaker 3: So she stopped and watched it, and it was one.
- 1:28:03Speaker 3: And then when they got a hold of me, I
- 1:28:05Speaker 3: explained to them, yes, that's one of their travel routes.
- 1:28:09Speaker 3: It's off of a... Let's see if I can officially
- 1:28:19Speaker 3: give the location. It's, as the crow flies from where
- 1:28:27Speaker 3: you've done your investigation, two miles.
- 1:28:32Speaker 1: Wow.
- 1:28:33Speaker 2: Where that Indian burial mound got destroyed.
- 1:28:37Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:28:38Speaker 2: Oh, man. And you saw the winged dog man and
- 1:28:40Speaker 2: that man unalived his wife. We have the S. Walker
- 1:28:44Speaker 2: Cave and like all the craziness. It's just crazy. That's crazy.
- 1:28:48Speaker 2: They should rename that place Crazy Town. I'm just saying.
- 1:28:53Speaker 2: Why not?
- 1:28:54Speaker 3: Right. And then we have Mr. Shannon Knight disappeared yesterday.
- 1:28:59Speaker 3: Four months ago, and law enforcement just released it needing
- 1:29:05Speaker 3: people's help there. He was last seen, well, they told
- 1:29:10Speaker 3: he was last seen on Oak Grove Road, but he
- 1:29:13Speaker 3: was last seen at North Springs. Within three miles of
- 1:29:18Speaker 3: where you've done your investigation, he disappeared along with his
- 1:29:24Speaker 3: four-wheeler and has never been found. or he has never
- 1:29:29Speaker 3: been found. So he's on a four-wheeler, and he's done
- 1:29:36Speaker 3: a lot of wood foraging, forest foraging, ginseng, other medicinal plants,
- 1:29:44Speaker 3: but nothing of him has ever been found in the
- 1:29:47Speaker 3: last four months.
- 1:29:48Speaker 2: Not even his four-wheeler? Nothing's been found? No trace?
- 1:29:52Speaker 3: Nothing. So he was last seen in North Springs, headed...
- 1:29:58Speaker 3: to the area where I had the winged creature encounter.
- 1:30:06Speaker 3: He was headed to that area where he was last seen.
- 1:30:11Speaker 3: He was in a quarter of a mile of that
- 1:30:14Speaker 3: area and then he vanished.
- 1:30:19Speaker 2: Poor fella.
- 1:30:21Speaker 3: He didn't have any driver's license and stuff like that
- 1:30:23Speaker 3: so the city mayor over in Macon County and the
- 1:30:31Speaker 3: Jackson County Sheriff's Department and the Macon County Sheriff's Department,
- 1:30:37Speaker 3: they let him drive his four-wheeler wherever he needed to go.
- 1:30:41Speaker 3: He was an older gentleman, so they didn't bother him.
- 1:30:46Speaker 3: But he disappeared, but they didn't release it for four months.
- 1:30:53Speaker 2: Why is that, you think?
- 1:30:56Speaker 3: I'm I'm puzzled because when families would come in to
- 1:31:03Speaker 3: me and tell me, Bruce, we need your help. Our
- 1:31:07Speaker 3: daughter didn't come home last night. She's never done this before.
- 1:31:11Speaker 3: I'd immediately put out a bolo and do a search.
- 1:31:15Speaker 3: I wouldn't wait for the missing person report to be done.
- 1:31:21Speaker 3: I would go ahead and start the search and then enter.
- 1:31:26Speaker 3: into the NCIC CAD, have it entered where it would
- 1:31:33Speaker 3: go nationwide. And generally you could find the people quicker.
- 1:31:40Speaker 3: But with Shannon, Mr. Knight, he was an older gentleman,
- 1:31:48Speaker 3: about six foot tall, knew the woods around for miles
- 1:31:54Speaker 3: and miles and miles like the back of his hand.
- 1:31:57Speaker 3: So I just don't understand how him and his four-wheeler
- 1:32:02Speaker 3: could just disappear.
- 1:32:07Speaker 2: Man, do you think there was some kind of cryptid
- 1:32:11Speaker 2: activity involved? I mean, I know it's kind of a
- 1:32:13Speaker 2: weird question, right?
- 1:32:15Speaker 3: Wasn't that about the time I was telling you about
- 1:32:18Speaker 3: the winged creature?
- 1:32:19Speaker 2: Yes, it would have been. Yeah.
- 1:32:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:32:24Speaker 2: Man, there's a whole lot of caves around there. There's
- 1:32:26Speaker 2: a whole lot of... crevices and caves and all sorts
- 1:32:30Speaker 2: of places to go missing. But if that guy knew
- 1:32:32Speaker 2: his way around there, that is very unusual.
- 1:32:35Speaker 3: He knew every place. There's a place there called Hanks Holler,
- 1:32:39Speaker 3: right up from where y'all were at. I wish I'd
- 1:32:42Speaker 3: stopped in there and talked to y'all, but I didn't
- 1:32:45Speaker 3: know you at that time. I would have sent you
- 1:32:47Speaker 3: in there because it's about four miles of a holler.
- 1:32:54Speaker 3: It's got a cemetery in it. And the cryptid supernatural
- 1:33:00Speaker 3: is so, so, so unreal there that they have shut
- 1:33:07Speaker 3: down both ends of that holler by pouring dump truck
- 1:33:11Speaker 3: loads of rock and dirt and putting up steel bar
- 1:33:16Speaker 3: gates to keep people from driving through there because they
- 1:33:20Speaker 3: had so many people disappear in there.
- 1:33:22Speaker 2: Really?
- 1:33:23Speaker 3: Really. And it's something that the counties, meaning the people there,
- 1:33:31Speaker 3: don't even want to talk about it. So, it's called
- 1:33:36Speaker 3: Hanks Holler. Oh, my gosh.
- 1:33:39Speaker 2: Didn't you say that one of the cave entrances where
- 1:33:41Speaker 2: we were investigating got sealed up recently?
- 1:33:45Speaker 3: It got sealed up, and then they tore it back down.
- 1:33:49Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Why would they seal that thing up?
- 1:33:53Speaker 2: To keep something in? Maybe. Or skew something out. It's
- 1:33:58Speaker 2: a skinwalker cave. That's what it was called.
- 1:34:01Speaker 3: It had been sealed for many, many years. The new
- 1:34:05Speaker 3: owners come in and tore it down. Then they tried
- 1:34:08Speaker 3: to seal it back with straws of pay.
- 1:34:11Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
- 1:34:12Speaker 3: That's not going to work. Oh, no. They set up
- 1:34:18Speaker 3: like a concession stand trailer, a food truck. Yes. Made
- 1:34:23Speaker 3: a little... picnic area in front of the caves. S.
- 1:34:30Speaker 2: Walker sandwiches, everybody. Come get your S. Walker burritos. They
- 1:34:36Speaker 2: probably have no clue.
- 1:34:38Speaker 3: But they're not selling to the public. That's the strange
- 1:34:41Speaker 3: part of it. It's just a handful of people that
- 1:34:44Speaker 3: are there from time to time. So I don't know
- 1:34:48Speaker 3: what the intention is. That's the one that the guy
- 1:34:50Speaker 3: walked in the barn and disappeared on me.
- 1:34:53Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:34:54Speaker 3: You know, just right there.
- 1:34:56Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of those areas where there's just something very,
- 1:35:00Speaker 2: very odd. They're very off. I think it's a place
- 1:35:05Speaker 2: of high energy for sure. That's no doubt. That's a given.
- 1:35:10Speaker 2: A place of high energy, maybe like Portal, Stargate, something
- 1:35:13Speaker 2: like that. Whatever was taking those chickens was going into
- 1:35:17Speaker 2: that cave. You could see where they were tracking it.
- 1:35:21Speaker 2: But then once you got inside the cave, there were
- 1:35:23Speaker 2: no footprints anywhere. It was scaling the walls, if anything.
- 1:35:26Speaker 3: Dog Man.
- 1:35:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:35:29Speaker 3: It was Dog Man because you had all the Indian
- 1:35:31Speaker 3: mounds there. A lot of them got tore down. And fields,
- 1:35:36Speaker 3: agriculture fields, corn, soybean was grown there. Yeah. Dog Man
- 1:35:41Speaker 3: is a protector of ancient mounds. Oh, yeah.
- 1:35:49Speaker 2: There were a bunch of soybeans out there, that's for sure.
- 1:35:51Speaker 2: I remember that. Yeah, we were taking precaution not to
- 1:35:54Speaker 2: step on any of them while we were out there. Yeah,
- 1:35:58Speaker 2: it's beautiful. It's a beautiful place, man. It's a beautiful
- 1:36:01Speaker 2: place out there, but it's very dark. Very dark energy
- 1:36:05Speaker 2: out there, too.
- 1:36:07Speaker 3: So any of y'all that's brave enough, it's called Drington Farms. Uh-oh.
- 1:36:12Speaker 3: You can't miss it if you drive down Gore Springs
- 1:36:16Speaker 3: Highway or Jennings Highway. There's a barn there. And a
- 1:36:22Speaker 3: big sign that says Brewington Farms on it. You can't
- 1:36:25Speaker 3: miss it.
- 1:36:28Speaker 2: Oh, well, Robert Arnett. Robert says that he actually worked
- 1:36:32Speaker 2: in search and rescue in Clay County. Okay, so he
- 1:36:35Speaker 2: says Hillam Cave is used by the local devil worshipers.
- 1:36:40Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:36:41Speaker 2: Oh, my God. That's not where I was, was it?
- 1:36:47Speaker 3: I asked him now. I asked him, does he remember me?
- 1:36:50Speaker 2: Do you remember? Do you remember, Bruce? I think we've
- 1:36:55Speaker 2: had this conversation before. I'm pretty sure. He said, let's see,
- 1:36:59Speaker 2: there's Scott Hunt in the chat. What's up, Scott Hunt?
- 1:37:01Speaker 2: Thank you for being here. Man, well, while we're waiting
- 1:37:06Speaker 2: for that response right there, Sasaga, thank you so much
- 1:37:09Speaker 2: for that super sticker. I appreciate that. Says, sounds like
- 1:37:13Speaker 2: your data is describing a quantum space time mesh. Yeah,
- 1:37:17Speaker 2: it is kind of weird. It is definitely kind of weird.
- 1:37:20Speaker 2: There is some kind of space and time intersection right here.
- 1:37:25Speaker 2: We went from solid to higher dimensions back to the
- 1:37:30Speaker 2: 3D again with whatever this creature is that we were
- 1:37:34Speaker 2: talking about today. Okay, whatever this is. Thank you for
- 1:37:37Speaker 2: your support. I appreciate that so much. Thank you. Let's see. Oh,
- 1:37:44Speaker 2: Robert said, yes, sir. He remembers you, bros. Who could
- 1:37:48Speaker 2: forget you, by the way? Who could ever forget you, Bruce? Yeah.
- 1:37:57Speaker 2: You keep your ear to the street over there in
- 1:37:59Speaker 2: northern Tennessee. And that's why I just love having you
- 1:38:03Speaker 2: on the show, Bruce. Thank you so much for coming
- 1:38:06Speaker 2: and hanging out. And it's so weird that I know
- 1:38:10Speaker 2: your area. And I've actually done research there. I never
- 1:38:14Speaker 2: in a million years thought I'd encounter somebody that come
- 1:38:16Speaker 2: on my shows that Saw my truck sitting out in
- 1:38:19Speaker 2: front of that cave and all of us out there
- 1:38:22Speaker 2: camping out and you're actually working in law enforcement. We
- 1:38:25Speaker 2: were wondering if people were looking at us funny out there.
- 1:38:30Speaker 3: Well, yeah. I mean, at first, I was like, when
- 1:38:34Speaker 3: I seen it, I was like, no, surely they're not
- 1:38:36Speaker 3: doing that. You had this tent up, canopy tent.
- 1:38:40Speaker 2: I had a canopy tent up. Yes, that was mine.
- 1:38:43Speaker 3: And a white SUV sitting there, and I'm like, well,
- 1:38:46Speaker 3: maybe it's a yard sale. And then I said, I'll
- 1:38:49Speaker 3: come back through.
- 1:38:50Speaker 2: It was a yard sale.
- 1:38:52Speaker 3: And I'll pull in and see what y'all had for sale.
- 1:38:55Speaker 3: But I got busy and didn't get back through.
- 1:38:57Speaker 2: You would have found a cooler full of sandwiches for sale.
- 1:39:01Speaker 2: I'd sold you a sandwich.
- 1:39:03Speaker 3: Just kidding.
- 1:39:04Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. And some sodas. Yeah, it was very
- 1:39:08Speaker 2: hot when we were out there. I remember that. I
- 1:39:11Speaker 2: did like going in the cave to get cool. But
- 1:39:13Speaker 2: we were there for a full weekend investigation of that S.
- 1:39:16Speaker 2: Walker cave right there. And to try to find out
- 1:39:18Speaker 2: what was happening with that family and all the paranormal stuff.
- 1:39:22Speaker 2: And I had no idea. No one ever told us
- 1:39:25Speaker 2: all the tragedy that had happened there. We didn't know.
- 1:39:29Speaker 2: We only knew about the stuff that the couple had
- 1:39:33Speaker 2: encountered since they moved there over the past couple of months.
- 1:39:37Speaker 2: We didn't know anything beyond that.
- 1:39:38Speaker 3: So, yeah. Yeah.
- 1:39:42Speaker 2: We were in a pretty crappy energy kind of place.
- 1:39:46Speaker 2: That sucks. That really sucks. And we didn't just investigate
- 1:39:50Speaker 2: that property. We marched our butts up the hill into,
- 1:39:55Speaker 2: it looked like a bamboo jungle up there. I don't
- 1:39:57Speaker 2: know what that was. Past the soybean fields and stuff.
- 1:40:00Speaker 2: There was another field and some barns and stuff. We
- 1:40:03Speaker 2: went all over that place. We did a pretty big
- 1:40:07Speaker 2: investigation out there. It was fun. It was also kind
- 1:40:11Speaker 2: of scary and it was very hot. but um but
- 1:40:13Speaker 2: anyways well i'm glad that i got to know you
- 1:40:15Speaker 2: after the fact so you could tell us what really
- 1:40:18Speaker 2: happened yeah and uh and that's cool that robert is
- 1:40:22Speaker 2: with uh was with search and rescue out at clay
- 1:40:24Speaker 2: county as well so that's just right there uh tennessee
- 1:40:27Speaker 2: is full of very strange cryptids very wild energy and
- 1:40:31Speaker 2: stuff and uh the more that i'm digging into the
- 1:40:34Speaker 2: history behind all this i'm finding there's a lot of
- 1:40:36Speaker 2: ancient egyptian you know settlements and stuff out there and
- 1:40:42Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that may have something to
- 1:40:43Speaker 2: do with some of these cursed lands, Bruce.
- 1:40:47Speaker 3: That's what I think. Yeah. Norris Lake has a pyramid
- 1:40:51Speaker 3: in it. The government covered it up. I don't know
- 1:40:55Speaker 3: why they didn't archaeologically remove it or bypass it, but
- 1:41:00Speaker 3: they covered it up with a lake.
- 1:41:05Speaker 2: Robert said Boone wasn't sheriff yet. Maybe when he was
- 1:41:08Speaker 2: working there.
- 1:41:10Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:41:11Speaker 2: Oh, he said, I am the tall Indian long hair
- 1:41:14Speaker 2: cowboy hat.
- 1:41:15Speaker 3: That's what he says. Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:41:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:41:17Speaker 3: I know him.
- 1:41:19Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness.
- 1:41:19Speaker 3: Y'all know each other. That was under Sheriff Roten. Yeah.
- 1:41:28Speaker 2: Very cool. Very cool. Well, I appreciate you being here, too, Robert.
- 1:41:32Speaker 2: Thank you so much for even being in the chat tonight. Now,
- 1:41:36Speaker 2: we have the best chat on the Internet, I like
- 1:41:38Speaker 2: to say.
- 1:41:38Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:41:39Speaker 2: And we really do. Man, well, man, I tell you what,
- 1:41:44Speaker 2: you connect dots like no other. And I love that.
- 1:41:48Speaker 2: And I love to connect dots too, Bruce. And I
- 1:41:51Speaker 2: appreciate that. What do you think about some of these
- 1:41:54Speaker 2: hyena type dog men that people are reporting? Maybe being
- 1:41:59Speaker 2: the Shunka Warakans, maybe some sort of a, I mean,
- 1:42:03Speaker 2: I'm not saying all Shunka Warakans are shape-shifting dog men,
- 1:42:08Speaker 2: but according to my data, they could be.
- 1:42:11Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:42:12Speaker 2: They could be. What if, what if that's what some
- 1:42:14Speaker 2: of these hyena dog men are, people are seeing?
- 1:42:16Speaker 3: That's a, I mean, that's a good possibility. I mean,
- 1:42:21Speaker 3: you were leaving what a conference or a research when
- 1:42:25Speaker 3: you seen yours. So yes, I mean, it's, I think
- 1:42:28Speaker 3: it's supernatural. Yes.
- 1:42:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:42:33Speaker 3: I think it's a spiritual, uh, that didn't hurt you. Uh,
- 1:42:42Speaker 3: It would have caused you to hurt yourself if you
- 1:42:44Speaker 3: wouldn't have been in your vehicle. But, yeah, I mean, again,
- 1:42:54Speaker 3: with things like that, I always look at the shapeshifter.
- 1:43:00Speaker 3: Something was there that knew you were in there researching,
- 1:43:04Speaker 3: and it stayed on the road to where it knew
- 1:43:07Speaker 3: you wouldn't miss it. You would get to see it.
- 1:43:10Speaker 2: It smiled at me.
- 1:43:12Speaker 3: There you go. That's what it did.
- 1:43:14Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm starting to wonder if a lot of these
- 1:43:18Speaker 2: encounters that we have are not, I hate to say choreographed.
- 1:43:21Speaker 2: That kind of sounds like a really bad word, but
- 1:43:24Speaker 2: almost kind of put in our path so that we
- 1:43:27Speaker 2: do have these experiences. Like I wouldn't be here today
- 1:43:29Speaker 2: if I had not had, I wouldn't be here talking.
- 1:43:32Speaker 2: I'd be here. I'd be alive, y'all. Okay. But I'm
- 1:43:34Speaker 2: saying like, I wouldn't be here with a YouTube channel.
- 1:43:37Speaker 2: And so I'm talking about this. Had I not had
- 1:43:39Speaker 2: all those really wild experiences, When I first went on
- 1:43:42Speaker 2: those Bigfoot expeditions and stuff, it really got my curiosity going.
- 1:43:48Speaker 3: I invited you on a snipe hunt once because you
- 1:43:52Speaker 3: told me you let the guys basically tie you up
- 1:43:59Speaker 3: and be bait for Bigfoot on his lurch.
- 1:44:02Speaker 2: Dang it, Bruce. You got me on that one. I
- 1:44:07Speaker 2: gave you that one. I'm never going snipe hunting ever again.
- 1:44:10Speaker 2: I know what it means now. It means nothing. I
- 1:44:16Speaker 2: told my dad about that and he laughed so hard.
- 1:44:18Speaker 2: He thought it was funny. He was like, how'd you
- 1:44:20Speaker 2: fall for that? So, uh, but yeah, don't go snipe
- 1:44:24Speaker 2: hunting y'all. It's fake.
- 1:44:26Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:44:26Speaker 2: It's not real. Uh, but anyways, but listen, if you
- 1:44:29Speaker 2: say go hunting, I'm going to say yes. I want
- 1:44:31Speaker 2: to go. I want to go. But, uh, but yeah, that's, um,
- 1:44:38Speaker 2: I don't know. This is, this has been a great show, Bruce.
- 1:44:40Speaker 2: I've really enjoyed this. Thank you so much. You've really
- 1:44:44Speaker 2: taken a deep dive into some things that I didn't
- 1:44:46Speaker 2: even know about you tonight. And, uh, and that was
- 1:44:49Speaker 2: actually my favorite part of the show. Like it's cool
- 1:44:51Speaker 2: hearing about this Shunko Warakans. I like that. Okay. But
- 1:44:54Speaker 2: I'd much rather hear about your personal stories and your
- 1:44:57Speaker 2: encounters and that, that made the show so much better tonight. And, uh,
- 1:45:01Speaker 2: and so thank you for that, man. I hope that
- 1:45:03Speaker 2: I can get up there and go hang out with
- 1:45:04Speaker 2: you up at the Warriors path. And, uh, And Robert
- 1:45:08Speaker 2: invited us to the Upper Peninsula, by the way. He said, Bruce,
- 1:45:12Speaker 2: you and Jessica have an open invitation to the Upper Peninsula.
- 1:45:16Speaker 2: Where's the Upper Peninsula at? Is that near where you live?
- 1:45:21Speaker 3: No.
- 1:45:21Speaker 2: Is that somewhere different?
- 1:45:23Speaker 3: I think he's moved up further north.
- 1:45:26Speaker 2: I think so, too. The Upper Peninsula. You're going to
- 1:45:30Speaker 2: have to give me directions, Robert, okay? Send me the coordinates.
- 1:45:36Speaker 2: All right. And we'll make it happen. Yeah, he's a
- 1:45:41Speaker 2: good man. What's up, everybody? Yeah, he is a good man. Man, okay, well,
- 1:45:46Speaker 2: now I know that you are a wild man, literally.
- 1:45:49Speaker 2: And I want to go hiking with you. I want
- 1:45:51Speaker 2: to go to the Montgomery Bell State Park. That's one
- 1:45:54Speaker 2: place that's on my bucket list.
- 1:45:56Speaker 3: We can do it. We just have to get there
- 1:45:58Speaker 3: about 3 o'clock in the morning, get a good start.
- 1:46:01Speaker 2: Oh, God.
- 1:46:02Speaker 3: Get a steady pace. Oh, Lord. We'll take breaks, but
- 1:46:06Speaker 3: we need to be there by dark or shortly after dark.
- 1:46:11Speaker 3: I prefer to get there a couple hours before dark
- 1:46:14Speaker 3: to get tents and everything set up and get a
- 1:46:17Speaker 3: perimeter set up. That way, if we get these werewolves
- 1:46:23Speaker 3: come in, we have got some type of perimeter to
- 1:46:29Speaker 3: safeguard ourselves.
- 1:46:32Speaker 2: Okay. I'm down. I'm down. I'll try it. Is there any,
- 1:46:36Speaker 2: is there a phone service out there? Do you have
- 1:46:38Speaker 2: internet and wifi? I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding that
- 1:46:43Speaker 2: then I'm there. I'm there for sure.
- 1:46:44Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:46:46Speaker 2: As long as there's no phone and stuff. Yes. That's
- 1:46:48Speaker 2: the best place to go. And do you think there's
- 1:46:50Speaker 2: still werewolves out there, Bruce?
- 1:46:53Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Most definitely.
- 1:46:55Speaker 2: You do?
- 1:46:56Speaker 3: Yes.
- 1:46:57Speaker 2: Okay. Do you think maybe the werewolves are dog men
- 1:47:00Speaker 2: or do you think they're actual werewolves? At Montgomeryville.
- 1:47:07Speaker 3: I was leaning towards Dog Man, but the werewolf aspect
- 1:47:16Speaker 3: of it, I think, comes out of that, could come
- 1:47:19Speaker 3: out of that family graveyard that's there.
- 1:47:25Speaker 2: Oh, you did bring up the graveyard. You did. You know,
- 1:47:28Speaker 2: there were two graveyards that we hiked past when we
- 1:47:30Speaker 2: went into the Bankhead Forest. We went into that dogman
- 1:47:34Speaker 2: investigation that we did out there. We hiked in about
- 1:47:36Speaker 2: five or six miles. And we passed, there were Revolutionary
- 1:47:40Speaker 2: War soldiers buried there. Yeah, so.
- 1:47:45Speaker 3: That's, I don't know. The Werewolf Springs is another place
- 1:47:50Speaker 3: where you're going to get, you can get some really
- 1:47:53Speaker 3: strange happenings. You can get from Indian chanting to dancing,
- 1:47:58Speaker 3: the ground vibrating from them dancing to beating drums. Oh, wow.
- 1:48:04Speaker 3: There's no way there's no one else that far out
- 1:48:07Speaker 3: there but you. You know, I've went in there and
- 1:48:11Speaker 3: I've spent, I'm bad about taking MREs, stuff that I
- 1:48:17Speaker 3: can get a good hearty meal that's lightweight that I
- 1:48:19Speaker 3: can put in a backpack. But I try to make
- 1:48:23Speaker 3: a perimeter. And what I mean by that is I
- 1:48:29Speaker 3: will bless a water, turn it into holy water, and
- 1:48:34Speaker 3: then I'll make me a perimeter around the area I
- 1:48:37Speaker 3: want to stay in that night. the camp in, just
- 1:48:41Speaker 3: right outside my tent and stuff. And then I've had
- 1:48:46Speaker 3: stuff come within three feet of that line and just
- 1:48:50Speaker 3: scream to where your body would just vibrate.
- 1:48:56Speaker 2: Oh, they stayed out because of the holy water.
- 1:48:59Speaker 3: Right, they went across that holy water.
- 1:49:02Speaker 2: It's a spiritual thing. It definitely is, isn't it?
- 1:49:06Speaker 3: And bring salt always bring a little bit of salt
- 1:49:13Speaker 3: you can get those little cans of salt you can
- 1:49:17Speaker 3: pick them up anywhere and you just need enough to
- 1:49:19Speaker 3: make a ring and whether something happens or not at
- 1:49:24Speaker 3: least you've got some type of protection.
- 1:49:29Speaker 2: Oh wow okay well good to know good to know
- 1:49:33Speaker 2: I always carry not only something to protect myself with
- 1:49:39Speaker 2: when I'm out in the field but also Like physically,
- 1:49:42Speaker 2: but also spiritually as well. So that's great advice, actually.
- 1:49:47Speaker 2: It is. And yeah, I don't know. I'm going to
- 1:49:51Speaker 2: have to get out there. I actually am going to
- 1:49:53Speaker 2: be heading to Kentucky to the LBL this weekend. And
- 1:49:57Speaker 2: I got to tell y'all, I'm exhausted right now. I
- 1:49:59Speaker 2: spent the last weekend in Alabama and now this weekend
- 1:50:01Speaker 2: I'm going to Kentucky. So, yeah, I'm going to need
- 1:50:05Speaker 2: to rest.
- 1:50:06Speaker 3: I'm tired. You'll have fun. Yeah. Yeah. It'll go by quick.
- 1:50:13Speaker 3: You'll forget your tires.
- 1:50:15Speaker 2: Tires?
- 1:50:16Speaker 3: I know. I just got to drive up there. Until
- 1:50:18Speaker 3: you start home. And if you get sleepy, just pull
- 1:50:21Speaker 3: over somewhere.
- 1:50:22Speaker 2: I know. I'll be all right. I'll get plenty of
- 1:50:24Speaker 2: sleep this weekend. Hopefully.
- 1:50:26Speaker 1: Hopefully.
- 1:50:26Speaker 3: But I don't know.
- 1:50:27Speaker 2: When I go to the LBL, I don't sleep a
- 1:50:28Speaker 2: whole lot, too. Because I'm out there. I want to
- 1:50:30Speaker 2: go and explore. And I got some of my teammates
- 1:50:34Speaker 2: from all over the South coming up there. And we're
- 1:50:37Speaker 2: going to go frolic around the LBL this weekend. I
- 1:50:41Speaker 2: guess frolic doesn't sound like a good manly term for
- 1:50:44Speaker 2: those guys that are coming up there. But anyways, I
- 1:50:48Speaker 2: will have a full report when I get back here
- 1:50:50Speaker 2: on Monday.
- 1:50:50Speaker 3: I promise. Just say you're going on a walkabout.
- 1:50:55Speaker 2: Going on a walkabout. We're frolicking.
- 1:50:58Speaker 3: We're going on a walkabout.
- 1:51:01Speaker 2: Frolicking with the fellas out there at the LBL. Looking
- 1:51:04Speaker 2: for dog men.
- 1:51:06Speaker 3: Yes. Just don't let them talk you into being bait.
- 1:51:09Speaker 2: I know. No, I volunteer for that.
- 1:51:11Speaker 3: Bruce, I volunteer.
- 1:51:12Speaker 2: That's how you get the best results. Yeah. For sure.
- 1:51:16Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
- 1:51:17Speaker 2: Well, Bruce, well, thank you so much again for being
- 1:51:19Speaker 2: here tonight. Thank you. Tell the audience where they can
- 1:51:22Speaker 2: find you. You guys have a show tomorrow night. You're
- 1:51:24Speaker 2: over on the Cryptid Wrangler podcast, right?
- 1:51:27Speaker 3: I'll be on the Cryptid Wrangler podcast. It'll be 7 Central,
- 1:51:33Speaker 3: 8 Eastern. We have a panel there. It'll be me.
- 1:51:39Speaker 3: Larry Luttrell, Scott Brush, and of course, Daniel, uh, Jay Williams. Uh,
- 1:51:46Speaker 3: then I'll be coming up on, uh, the outer rim
- 1:51:52Speaker 3: with two cryptid legends. Uh, as the name of the show,
- 1:51:56Speaker 3: it'll be, uh, Daryl Denton, Ron Moorhead, MK Davis, and myself. Uh,
- 1:52:04Speaker 3: I'll be doing low down, uh, with Jared tomorrow at
- 1:52:13Speaker 3: 2 o'clock. And then I've got one soon as I
- 1:52:18Speaker 3: get off of here to do. And I'm like you, Jessica.
- 1:52:26Speaker 3: I've got so many things going on. I don't even
- 1:52:30Speaker 3: write them down. I tell people, just call me right
- 1:52:32Speaker 3: before we go on, and I'll jump on. Oh, my gosh.
- 1:52:39Speaker 2: I love that. Well, you have so many things to
- 1:52:42Speaker 2: talk about, Bruce. It's really fascinating hearing all your encounters
- 1:52:47Speaker 2: and stuff. And so, yeah, you keep me on the
- 1:52:49Speaker 2: edge of my seat every time you come on the show.
- 1:52:51Speaker 3: Well, thank you. You did real good yourself. Now, keep
- 1:52:56Speaker 3: in mind.
- 1:52:56Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you.
- 1:52:59Speaker 3: Because you're going to be the first woman that the
- 1:53:02Speaker 3: federal government is going to let talk about.
- 1:53:05Speaker 2: The feds. Who are always talking crap about. You can
- 1:53:09Speaker 2: tell who the feds are. Welcome by the feds. Go
- 1:53:14Speaker 2: speak in a federal agency. Playing around out there.
- 1:53:18Speaker 3: They know you're on.
- 1:53:20Speaker 2: Hey, we're going to change the world.
- 1:53:22Speaker 3: We better get Jessica on our side. Because she's. She's a.
- 1:53:28Speaker 2: I'm a loud mouth. I know I'm a loud mouth. Well,
- 1:53:32Speaker 2: it is what it is.
- 1:53:34Speaker 3: You're open minded. That's a good thing. Yeah.
- 1:53:37Speaker 2: Hey, nobody's, they're not going, they're not going to get
- 1:53:39Speaker 2: ahold of me. Y'all don't worry.
- 1:53:41Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:53:41Speaker 2: And, uh, yeah, I've, I think they, uh, Martin asked
- 1:53:46Speaker 2: me to come talk about my experiences and my encounters
- 1:53:48Speaker 2: out there at the LBL. And I've had some very
- 1:53:50Speaker 2: intense encounters out there. And, uh, and so that's what
- 1:53:54Speaker 2: I'm going to do. And, uh, and I'm going to
- 1:53:57Speaker 2: maybe even pay tribute to some friends and stuff out there. And, uh,
- 1:54:00Speaker 2: we're going to talk about dog men. And I think
- 1:54:01Speaker 2: that I was really a wonderful step forward, uh, in disclosure.
- 1:54:06Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:54:07Speaker 2: And, uh, with the cryptids, I think it starts here.
- 1:54:09Speaker 2: We are the disclosure Bruce. And, uh, and if people
- 1:54:12Speaker 2: want to know the truth about dog, man, a Bigfoot
- 1:54:15Speaker 2: and all these other cryptids out there, uh, they're not
- 1:54:17Speaker 2: all just flesh and bone creatures and stuff. And, uh, and,
- 1:54:22Speaker 2: and that's, we, we've demonstrated that tonight with this. I
- 1:54:27Speaker 2: keep having to look at the word cause I can't
- 1:54:28Speaker 2: remember it. The Shunko Warakan, uh, they're flesh and blood,
- 1:54:33Speaker 2: but they're also something else. But let me just make
- 1:54:36Speaker 2: a note of this, y'all. Because even humans, we're flesh
- 1:54:39Speaker 2: and blood. We're flesh and bone. But we're also supernatural
- 1:54:42Speaker 2: as well, Bruce. All of us are. We are. So
- 1:54:47Speaker 2: remember that. I mean, if there are declassified documents where
- 1:54:54Speaker 2: humans are, I don't know if it's declassified documents or
- 1:54:57Speaker 2: so much as, what do you call those things? Like
- 1:54:59Speaker 2: where they're patented? Okay, like copyrighted, patented documents. ways to
- 1:55:05Speaker 2: like humans to walk through walls and stuff. How can
- 1:55:10Speaker 2: a flesh and bone person walk through a wall?
- 1:55:12Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:55:12Speaker 2: Ask our, ask our government, go to the patent center
- 1:55:15Speaker 2: and find out y'all. Okay. Yeah. So anyways, I digress.
- 1:55:23Speaker 2: I'm tired as heck right now. I'm tired. I will
- 1:55:27Speaker 2: ramble all night if you guys will let me, but
- 1:55:29Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it to y'all tonight. Okay. Um,
- 1:55:32Speaker 2: But I do want to thank you so much, Bruce,
- 1:55:35Speaker 2: so much for being here. If your plans fall through
- 1:55:38Speaker 2: this weekend, you come see me at the LBL, okay?
- 1:55:40Speaker 2: You're not too far from there.
- 1:55:42Speaker 3: Yeah, if we get rained out on our expedition, I
- 1:55:45Speaker 3: will definitely be there.
- 1:55:48Speaker 2: Okay, wonderful. Well, we might get rained out over at
- 1:55:51Speaker 2: the festival, too.
- 1:55:53Speaker 3: Well, over there at the festival, at least you can
- 1:55:55Speaker 3: hold an umbrella. When I go through the woods and stuff,
- 1:55:59Speaker 3: it's a little bit hard to hold an umbrella and
- 1:56:01Speaker 3: keep from.
- 1:56:02Speaker 2: Tearing it up oh yeah bring your ponchos everybody your
- 1:56:05Speaker 2: rain boots and your ponchos i'm gonna have mine on
- 1:56:07Speaker 2: okay while we're out there and uh yes we will
- 1:56:11Speaker 2: bring your scuba gear your snorkeling outfit and uh and
- 1:56:16Speaker 2: please everybody who's in the path of that storm please
- 1:56:19Speaker 2: be safe and uh and take precaution i know in
- 1:56:22Speaker 2: georgia where they're expecting a lot of high winds and
- 1:56:24Speaker 2: stuff but i don't know a lot of times it
- 1:56:26Speaker 2: seems like There's a lot of fear put out there
- 1:56:29Speaker 2: into the general public. So please don't live in fear, y'all.
- 1:56:32Speaker 2: But just take precaution. Get your batteries, okay? And be
- 1:56:37Speaker 2: prepared for whatever happens. I always say that. But don't
- 1:56:40Speaker 2: live in fear, okay? And so if anybody wants to
- 1:56:44Speaker 2: come up to the LBL this weekend, y'all, on Saturday,
- 1:56:47Speaker 2: I think that we do the Bigfoot Dogman Town Hall
- 1:56:51Speaker 2: at 1 p.m. Central on Saturday. So again, if you
- 1:56:54Speaker 2: guys want to come to that. It's at a Moonshine Festival, y'all. okay,
- 1:56:58Speaker 2: it's the Moonshine Festival, and then at one o'clock, they're
- 1:57:01Speaker 2: having a Bigfoot Dogman Town Hall out there, and it's
- 1:57:03Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of fun, and a lot of
- 1:57:05Speaker 2: familiar faces will be there for you, buddy, if y'all
- 1:57:08Speaker 2: want to come and show up, the, the really bad
- 1:57:12Speaker 2: storms are not supposed to come till later, or on Sunday,
- 1:57:15Speaker 2: I think, okay, either late Saturday or Sunday, so y'all,
- 1:57:19Speaker 2: we're gonna make it happen, hopefully, okay, on Saturday, but
- 1:57:23Speaker 2: this is it, come find us over at the Fenton
- 1:57:26Speaker 2: Day Use Area. It's over by a bridge. It's called
- 1:57:29Speaker 2: like the Effing Bridge or something.
- 1:57:32Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:57:33Speaker 2: It's on their Facebook page. Go to the Friends of
- 1:57:35Speaker 2: the Land Between the Lakes on Facebook and they got
- 1:57:38Speaker 2: all the information there. Okay. But anyways.
- 1:57:42Speaker 3: What's your start time and your close time?
- 1:57:45Speaker 2: Start time. It starts at 10 a.m. Actually, the festival
- 1:57:48Speaker 2: starts at 10 and it ends at 6 p.m. Central.
- 1:57:52Speaker 3: Yes.
- 1:57:53Speaker 2: Yes.
- 1:57:55Speaker 3: All right. Thanks for all through on my end. I'll
- 1:57:57Speaker 3: see you there.
- 1:57:58Speaker 2: I'll see you there. I know there's going to be
- 1:57:59Speaker 2: moonshine involved, y'all. I'm not saying I'm going to have
- 1:58:02Speaker 2: any moonshine involved, but there will be moonshine there. And
- 1:58:05Speaker 2: all the famous moonshiners out of Kentucky are going to
- 1:58:09Speaker 2: be there. And so, yeah. So, Bigfoot and moonshine and Dogman.
- 1:58:14Speaker 2: That's a wild combo. But anyways, y'all come see me
- 1:58:18Speaker 2: this weekend. And y'all come back and see me on
- 1:58:21Speaker 2: Saturday night. I'll have a wonderful show for you guys
- 1:58:23Speaker 2: at 10 p.m. on The Hunt. Come back and see me.
- 1:58:25Speaker 2: And then I'll be back on Monday as well. Okay, so...
- 1:58:29Speaker 2: Until then, we'll hang out with Bruce Brown and the
- 1:58:32Speaker 2: crew over at the Cryptid Wrangler podcast tomorrow night. You
- 1:58:35Speaker 2: guys have a wonderful weekend and please stay safe out there.
- 1:58:39Speaker 2: And if you want to get access to the remote
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- 1:58:51Speaker 2: my moderators for being here tonight. And also thank you
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- 1:59:03Speaker 2: you so much. And also Sass Saga. Y'all are awesome.
- 1:59:06Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all so much. Everybody have a great night.
- 1:59:10Speaker 2: And I'll see you guys back here on Saturday night.
- 1:59:13Speaker 2: And hopefully I'll see some of y'all in Kentucky on Saturday.
- 1:59:16Speaker 2: All right, Bruce, have a great weekend. And we'll see
- 1:59:19Speaker 2: y'all next time.
- 1:59:19Speaker 3: All right. Bye-bye.
- 1:59:21Speaker 4: Bye, y'all. Thank you.