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[#9] Naked Awareness Spontaneously Arising (Jul 2026) · Lama Lena Teachings

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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, you live.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Zogchenjupelamala, Sola Vahadeb.
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  SPEAKER_00: Arginpemajunila, Sola Vahadeb.
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  SPEAKER_00: Durjichang, Sittilu Narudang,
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  SPEAKER_00: Marpa Milagampo Tsatsapa.
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  SPEAKER_00: Na Pupadang Palden Drupasu,
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  SPEAKER_00: Kagil Lama Namla Soluwa De,
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  SPEAKER_00: Ochen Lama Namla Soluwa De,
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  SPEAKER_00: Ochen Lama Namla Soluwa De, .
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  SPEAKER_00: . . .
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  SPEAKER_01: . Chaginwari Lama
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  SPEAKER_00: Namla Soluwa Debe,
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  SPEAKER_01: Chakya Lama namla
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  SPEAKER_00: soluwa debe.
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  SPEAKER_01: Satsang with Mooji Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: You all know I was on 14, you said.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you all remember 13?
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  SPEAKER_01: When you look into the space of the sky,
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  SPEAKER_01: Inside and outside of yourself, same space.
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  SPEAKER_01: There are no thoughts occurring.
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  SPEAKER_01: Emanations being projected
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  SPEAKER_01: in spaciousness, not.
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  SPEAKER_01: When you look inward at your own mind inside yourself in the same way, outside,
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  SPEAKER_01: inside, no difference.
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  SPEAKER_01: There is no projectionist making up thoughts
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  SPEAKER_01: by thinking them.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is one taste where subject and object are not separated.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is looking at all the arising phenomena
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  SPEAKER_01: in the times it is arising
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  SPEAKER_01: and in the times it is not arising.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, we're not on chapter 12.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're going to be summarizing a lot of what came before 14.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't get ahead of yourself, translators.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're not We're not on the text right now.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to explain to you where we are.
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  SPEAKER_01: The projections that you create called phenomena
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  SPEAKER_01: when you are creating them.
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  SPEAKER_01: And when you in Shinne gaze
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  SPEAKER_01: at the empty sky Inside or outside and are not creating them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Whether you are being them or not being them,
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  SPEAKER_01: that also creates you.
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  SPEAKER_01: There is no you separate from the phenomena you create.
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  SPEAKER_01: There arise according to your karma, sensations of your body.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sensations of touch, smell, taste,
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  SPEAKER_01: hearing, seeing, feelings,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is the sensation of neurotransmitters swirling
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  SPEAKER_01: about in your neural tissues,
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  SPEAKER_01: which are here and here.
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  SPEAKER_01: You got two brains in there, not just one up there.
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  SPEAKER_01: These sensations arise according to karma.
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  SPEAKER_01: Most intense and most recent first.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then others.
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  SPEAKER_01: Repeaters.
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  SPEAKER_01: Those which are less intense but are frequently done,
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  SPEAKER_01: such as a person who has a habit of continuously casting a nasty spell
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  SPEAKER_01: on themselves.
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  SPEAKER_01: They walk around going, I'm an idiot.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm an idiot. What's wrong with me?
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm an idiot.
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  SPEAKER_01: So by bonlam,
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  SPEAKER_01: by saying I'm an idiot that many times, they diminish their intelligence.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's called casting a nasty spell on yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: You really ought to not do that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Refrain from casting nasty spells on yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: As best you can, for you are nothing but the spells that you have previously cast
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  SPEAKER_01: upon yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're made up of the stories you have told yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: None of your past happened.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not the way you think it did.
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  SPEAKER_01: A child has an experience.
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  SPEAKER_01: They see something with their eyes.
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  SPEAKER_01: They hear with their ears.
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  SPEAKER_01: They feel with their touch.
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  SPEAKER_01: They then interpret those sensations
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  SPEAKER_01: into a story like the monster under the bed
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  SPEAKER_01: because your ankle brushes against the bedspread as you put your foot down
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  SPEAKER_01: and you felt as if something was grabbing at it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So now there's a story about a monster under the bed and the fact that there's
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  SPEAKER_01: a monster under the bed Makes it very traumatic to get up and go pee.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you don't.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now your parents are pissed off because the bed needs changing.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so it snowballs into a whole set of traumas and experiences.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you may by now have forgotten about the monster under the bed.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now you have a I'm bad and awful instead that you're going to spin.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nothing that ever happened to you happened.
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  SPEAKER_01: All you have is the stories you told yourself
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  SPEAKER_01: at the time while it was happening
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  SPEAKER_01: about what was happening.
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  SPEAKER_01: Some of those stories may have been shared by others.
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  SPEAKER_01: Some were not.
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  SPEAKER_01: Either way, they're just stories.
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  SPEAKER_01: They make you up.
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  SPEAKER_01: Your stories are your perceptions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Your perceptions are your experiences.
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  SPEAKER_01: When you get a bilblah, a clump, an entanglement of thoughts, emotions,
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  SPEAKER_01: and sensations, Together,
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  SPEAKER_01: these make a perception,
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  SPEAKER_01: which includes the story made of thoughts,
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  SPEAKER_01: the feelings about the story made of thoughts,
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  SPEAKER_01: and the sensations of the body that started it all up,
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  SPEAKER_01: like your ankle brushing the bedspread and thinking something under there grabbed
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  SPEAKER_01: at you because you were a paranoid two-year-old.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, not uncommon.
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  SPEAKER_01: On account of if you die in a state of paranoia because something's going down that's scary.
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  SPEAKER_01: And for most people, death is that.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're likely to be a paranoid little kid.
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  SPEAKER_01: Doesn't wear off that fast.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you are constructed
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  SPEAKER_01: of the stories you tell yourself, the phenomena,
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  SPEAKER_01: the Perceptions stack up across time into an experience.
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  SPEAKER_01: You are made of your experiences.
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  SPEAKER_01: They create you, but you create them according to your foibles.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hence Buddha talked about purification.
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  SPEAKER_01: The stripping of foibles to clarify the experiences more and more.
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  SPEAKER_01: Outside of that, no.
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  SPEAKER_01: Bigger than that, that whole entanglement
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  SPEAKER_01: of experiences forming an experiencer,
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  SPEAKER_01: forming stories which are called experiences,
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  SPEAKER_01: that bilblah in it,
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  SPEAKER_01: around it,
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  SPEAKER_01: Cradling it, but not only it,
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  SPEAKER_01: not other than the bilblah, not separate from it,
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  SPEAKER_01: but not limited by the bilblah,
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  SPEAKER_01: is your clear light nature.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not yours to possess, for there's no you to possess it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's always been there, unmade, unborn, unborn.
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  SPEAKER_01: There was nothing before it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes for simplicity sake, in certain meditations, we call it stillness.
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  SPEAKER_01: For one of the...
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  SPEAKER_01: It is not actually that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was going to say one of the aspects of it is that it is still,
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  SPEAKER_01: but it is also the dance of all motion.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is not isolated as stillness.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yet in the beginning of meditation,
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  SPEAKER_01: when we have spent eons focusing our attention on the movement, the dance,
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  SPEAKER_01: the bilbla of thoughts and feelings and sensations,
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  SPEAKER_01: which are created by the illusion of a self,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is created by the bilbla of thoughts and feelings and sensations.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we stare at that compulsively
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  SPEAKER_01: And we never look up, out, beyond.
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  SPEAKER_01: All of this, all of the pointing out,
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  SPEAKER_01: which this entire text is ways of pointing out,
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  SPEAKER_01: points beyond the limitations of that.
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  SPEAKER_01: We have so many names for it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Primordial awareness.
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  SPEAKER_01: Primordial, always was, there always wasn't.
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  SPEAKER_01: Clear awareness, open awareness.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is not bound by anything, by any limits such as time or space.
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  SPEAKER_01: Clear, it is utterly transparent.
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  SPEAKER_01: Light, this is starting to talk in twilight speech.
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  SPEAKER_01: Light, the symbol by which the seer sees when there is no light you cannot see,
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  SPEAKER_01: sense, perceive, experience.
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  SPEAKER_01: Without experiences, There are no experiencers.
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  SPEAKER_01: If there were neither experiences nor experiencers, there would be no life,
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  SPEAKER_01: no vitality, no dance, no movement.
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  SPEAKER_01: And yet there is, obviously, stuff and feelings about the stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we are here, as such as we aren't.
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  SPEAKER_01: Made up comic book characters, writing the comic book.
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  SPEAKER_01: I should draw that sometime.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not produced, self-originated, uncreated.
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  SPEAKER_01: Apparent always if you simply bother
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  SPEAKER_01: to let go of your fixation
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  SPEAKER_01: on that what flickers and makes noise, moving.
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  SPEAKER_01: And look past it, within it, around it.
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  SPEAKER_01: How wonderful this immediate intrinsic awareness
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  SPEAKER_01: is insubstantial
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  SPEAKER_01: but lucidly clear.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now I'm on 14 translators.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just this is the highest pinnacle of all views.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is all encompassing, free of everything.
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  SPEAKER_01: Without any conceptions whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now that doesn't mean you cannot think.
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  SPEAKER_01: That doesn't mean the mind will not form conceptions. It is alive.
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  SPEAKER_01: It will.
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  SPEAKER_01: Simply in the direct awareness of their insubstantiality.
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  SPEAKER_01: They have no weight.
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  SPEAKER_01: No solidity.
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  SPEAKER_01: Link text.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let me try it, Martin.
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  SPEAKER_01: Send to email.
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  SPEAKER_01: Come here.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, wrong Martin.
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  SPEAKER_01: Stop it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Stop it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nyanda, would you please send this text to him?
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  SPEAKER_01: No, not from here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Go back home. Oh Jenny has got it she sent I
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  SPEAKER_01: wasn't reading the text in that moment, Martin.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was explaining the text.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if you thought maybe you had the wrong text, you didn't.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just this is the highest pinnacle among all meditators.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is what you're looking for, but there is nothing to grasp at here.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can't hold it because it isn't a thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is unfabricated, inexpressible, In worldly terms,
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  SPEAKER_01: there are no languages that I have encountered that wrap around it effectively.
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  SPEAKER_01: Some point from one direction, some point from another direction.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is referred to in many,
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  SPEAKER_01: at least is referred to in Lakota.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is referred to in Cherokee, but only euphemistically.
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  SPEAKER_01: A lodge that has gone extinct during the Trail of Tears.
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  SPEAKER_01: Lakota, the word is Wakantanga.
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  SPEAKER_01: There are all sorts of words that point.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do not think it is the words.
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  SPEAKER_01: None of the words go all the way there.
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  SPEAKER_01: They point from different directions.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you're all sitting around a table and you all point at the center of the table,
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  SPEAKER_01: you're all pointing in different directions,
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  SPEAKER_00: like that it works.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is the highest pinnable among all courses of conduct,
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  SPEAKER_01: for it has no rubber buggy bumpers, no rules.
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  SPEAKER_01: Most courses of conduct within Buddhism have rules you must follow,
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  SPEAKER_01: for it makes many people feel more secure to know what they're supposed to do
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  SPEAKER_01: and what they're not supposed to do.
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  SPEAKER_01: The number of am I doing it right questions that come forth
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  SPEAKER_01: on an average day is astronomical.
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  SPEAKER_01: There really isn't a right of this doing, for it is a not doing.
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  SPEAKER_01: This conduct is without boundaries of conduct.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is free, spontaneous arising of bodhicitta.
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  SPEAKER_01: Without being sought after,
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  SPEAKER_01: It is spontaneously self-perfected from the very beginning.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just this is the highest pinnacle among all fruits.
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  SPEAKER_01: So this is really Zogchen completion stage.
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  SPEAKER_01: There is not a doing involved.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is a not doing.
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  SPEAKER_01: A relaxing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Please understand me.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is not a refraining from doing.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is something you do.
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  SPEAKER_01: You do refrain from doing in certain practices at certain times scheduled.
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  SPEAKER_01: But this is not what we're talking about.
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  SPEAKER_01: The looking at the totality is not looking
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  SPEAKER_01: in one direction or another
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  SPEAKER_01: because it is not limited by here and there.
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  SPEAKER_01: This or that, or any of the either ors.
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  SPEAKER_01: Here are the teachings of the four great vehicles that are without error.
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  SPEAKER_01: First, there is the great vehicle of unmistaken view.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is Tawa.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is super important.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're all making up Tawa.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then you try to tell me how you made it up.
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  SPEAKER_01: You sit, using all the nice little tricks that make it easier,
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  SPEAKER_01: and you let go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, there's all these preliminary exercises about go find your mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: Follow the thoughts home.
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  SPEAKER_01: Where are they happening?
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  SPEAKER_01: But they don't take you to a place.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if you're still asking, how do I know if this is the real Tawa?
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  SPEAKER_01: It isn't.
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  SPEAKER_01: Flat out, nope, not.
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  SPEAKER_01: Keep looking.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not by rote.
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  SPEAKER_01: And not with words.
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  SPEAKER_01: You don't look with your intellect the way you look for your car keys.
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  SPEAKER_01: I wonder where I left them.
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  SPEAKER_01: What coat was I wearing?
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  SPEAKER_01: Let me check the pockets.
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  SPEAKER_01: You don't look with your feelings the way you look for your missing cat.
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  SPEAKER_01: In a state of worry and desperation.
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  SPEAKER_01: You look without any desperation
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  SPEAKER_01: to find,
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  SPEAKER_01: allowing yourself to absorb into the act of looking.
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  SPEAKER_01: And in that absorption,
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  SPEAKER_01: You release or let go of the idea of finding anything.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you rest in that blankness
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  SPEAKER_01: of not finding for long and long.
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  SPEAKER_01: You become used to it.
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  SPEAKER_01: You become accustomed to it so that you can go and rest there anytime you want.
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  SPEAKER_01: Without constructing a universe around it.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is sort of Tawa and sort of Shini without an object.
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  SPEAKER_01: But it's just the start.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is not the clear Tawa.
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  SPEAKER_01: You keep letting it go again and again.
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  SPEAKER_01: Until there is no thing clear, no thing there.
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  SPEAKER_01: This immediate awareness, simply as it is,
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  SPEAKER_01: completely transparent and completely awake and able to think.
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  SPEAKER_01: And yet not involved in the process of thinking.
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  SPEAKER_01: So at first, yes, you separate yourself from the thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_01: You sit in the open awareness, which is aware of the spaciousness and the stillness,
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  SPEAKER_01: and you ignore the thoughts temporarily.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's not where you're going.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's how you get there
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  SPEAKER_01: from beginningless time You have been compulsively obsessing with the moving.
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  SPEAKER_01: All morning, until you got here, you had your attention focused on what moves,
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  SPEAKER_01: the weather moves, the stuff on the internet moves,
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  SPEAKER_01: breakfast moved, shopping moves,
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  SPEAKER_01: it gets brought home, it gets put away, it gets set, you go get some more.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's all the moving and you keep track of it all.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then there's train tickets and then there's reservations and all these other things.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you keep track of it all and you make decisions about it all
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  SPEAKER_01: and you're all focused on the moving.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aren't you tired yet?
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't you want a little break?
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  SPEAKER_01: Allow.
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  SPEAKER_01: Permit yourself to release that stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: And get a rest.
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  SPEAKER_01: Often, every few minutes,
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  SPEAKER_01: whatever you're doing, let go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Allow your mind to rest in open awareness.
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  SPEAKER_01: Pay no attention to whatever you were thinking about.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is where it's always very annoying when somebody comes by and says, Penny,
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  SPEAKER_01: for your thoughts?
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, what thoughts?
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  SPEAKER_01: But you got to rest sometimes.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is this immediate awareness of the moment,
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  SPEAKER_01: lucid and clear, transparent and alive and awake.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this lucid clarity is without error or mistake.
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  SPEAKER_01: It simply is.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're not making it up.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you're making it up, that's not the real one.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you can think about it, you're off base.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you are thinking about it, you're off base.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you're trying to describe it in words, you're having an oops.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Once you put it in words and try to describe it to yourself or to me, you've squished it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And now it's certainly not the real thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a story about Tawa.
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  SPEAKER_01: Useless.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because it is without error or mistake,
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  SPEAKER_01: Since there is nothing to it to be in error or mistaken,
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  SPEAKER_01: it is called a vehicle.
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  SPEAKER_01: Second, there is the great vehicle of the unmistaken meditation.
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  SPEAKER_01: Since this immediate awareness
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  SPEAKER_01: Is that which is clarity.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this lucid clarity, transparency is without error or mistake.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is called a vehicle.
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  SPEAKER_01: We looked at Tawa.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now we're looking at Gom.
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  SPEAKER_01: The meditations.
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  SPEAKER_01: To find open awareness and relax into it
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  SPEAKER_01: without being fooled by your made-up idea
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  SPEAKER_01: of what it's supposed to be.
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  SPEAKER_01: Trust me, it's not going to be what you think it is.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's Tawa.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: Get used to it.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_01: Rest there often.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: Stop what you're doing.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: And rest in Tawa.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: Until that is easy.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: Until it happens to you sometimes.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: Then now this is easy to just let go to rest in Tawa.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_01: Now meditation has the clarity of seeing things.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like feelings.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_01: Without believing in them.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: Meditation is bigger than Tawa.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: For in meditation you function.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_01: You go about and do things.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: You might write a list or cook a meal.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_01: Walk the dog.
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  SPEAKER_01: Many things.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_01: While
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_01: Repeatedly checking tawa, but don't grab.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: When you're sitting still and your lung is balanced in your channels,
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_01: with all those things, tawa will settle in.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_01: You, the bilblah, you,
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_01: can sort of relax and let go of its tightness and settle
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_01: into tawa, but while you're
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_00: moving around, you can't do that.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: You can think about tawa a lot while you're moving around.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_01: You can remember the feeling of tawa a lot while you're moving around.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: You can even
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: hang out in the perception of tawa while you're moving around.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_01: But those aren't real.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: They're thoughts, feelings, and perceptions.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: They are not Tawa.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: So what you want to do
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: while you're moving around is flash
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: on Tawa without grasping.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: See, the moment you try to stay there, you're going to put a word on it.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_01: You're going to put a description on it.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: You're going to think it feels like this.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's how I can tell I am there.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: If it doesn't feel like this, I'm not there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Distortion.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: That won't work.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: Third, there is the great vehicle of unmistaken conduct.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: This is SOPA, which, okay, you can call it conduct.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_01: You can call it a lot of things.
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  SPEAKER_01: It does itself.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_01: You don't do it.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's what's unmistaken about it.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_01: Since this immediate primal awareness is that which possesses clarity.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: And this lucid awake aware clarity is without error or mistake.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_01: It is called a vehicle.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_01: So these are the three of method.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: The fourth is fruit.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: Do you understand how to do them?
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: Because that's what matters.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_01: Not the pretty poetry in the book, but how to.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: Relax with Tawa.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: Instead of relaxing with a beer or a joint or a bit of porn or a good book,
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_01: relax with Tawa.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: You can also have a bit of porn and a good book another time.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying give that up exclusively.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm saying in between bites of life,
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_01: relax as Tawa into Tawa.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_01: Just be there.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_01: There's nothing special about it even.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_01: And yet it is the most profound thing in the whole universe.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_01: When that relaxing becomes easy and of course,
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: and not something you make yourself do,
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_01: but something you like doing because it's relaxing,
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: You'll like it as much as a joint, a beer, a book.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_01: That's what it has to get to.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: Before you move on,
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_01: everybody's impatient to go through the stages and they get
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_01: to the last stage and they find out nothing worked.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_02: And then they're pissed at me.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_01: Stay there, stay with Tawa.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: So you're sitting at the table with the work you're doing,
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_01: whether it's your homework, you know,
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_01: something for a class or something for an article you're writing or checking out
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_01: a text.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_01: And at some point you feel a bit of a tiredness in your brain between the eyes, your eyes.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they've been going like this on reading something.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_01: So you look up straight ahead in the Dzogchen gaze.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_01: And you relax.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_01: And you release, let go of the hopes and the fears of attaining something
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_01: and the fears of not attaining something and the fears of wasting time and all
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_01: that other stuff that's nyattering around there.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let go.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_01: Take a few minutes and just relax.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_01: When that's a habit, when that is something you really wouldn't
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_01: do well without,
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_01: that Occasional just relaxing and staring into space without thinking or doing.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_01: Without even specifically meditating.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: In a state of open awareness that is complete relaxation.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_01: Then start checking that that state is still there whether
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: you are there or not.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_01: While you move around doing things.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_01: When you've done that long enough,
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_01: you're going to be sure
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: that whether you're
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_01: paying attention to them or not,
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: the thoughts release themselves immediately after you think them.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: And you need to make another one and another one and another one.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: You can stay on topic for a while,
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_01: but eventually you're going to lose the topic and start thinking
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_01: about something else and something else.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_01: Faster with ADD, slower with certain kinds of autism.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_01: You know, these are neurological idiosyncrasies before how long your thoughts change topic.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: But they all do.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_01: Doesn't matter.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_01: This is where you are seeing
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_01: The infinite open awareness in each movement as each movement,
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_01: and they are in no way separate.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: The certainty of this causes the conduct to occur naturally,
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_01: which is the essence of not doing.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_01: Fourth, there is the great vehicle of the unmistaken fruit.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_01: Since this immediate awareness is lucidly clear,
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_01: and this lucid clarity is without error or mistake, it is called a vehicle.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_01: At this point, there is no goal.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_01: To flee from or run towards.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: There are different ways of saying this same teaching.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_01: The four great unchanging essential points or nails.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_01: And this runs through, there's seven nails in one teaching and Twenty-one nails
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: in another teaching.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_01: These are points that can be relied on.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna say what I just said, but I'm gonna say it all over again in a different way.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_01: First, there is the great nail of the unchanging view.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_01: When you sit in tawa a lot, frequently,
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_01: Taking a little rest in between bites of life, again and again for a long time,
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_01: you see that it is the normal.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_01: And a point focus is the abnormal, something you do on occasion when you have to,
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_01: but not a way to live.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_01: The great nail of the unchanging tower.
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  SPEAKER_01: This immediate present awareness is lucidly clear.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because it is stable in the three times, it is called a nail.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: So you have to look at this.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_01: Tawa itself, not you having noticed it.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_01: Your noticement is all over the place.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes you notice Tawa, sometimes you notice the cat.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_01: It do that.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: But it was there before you ever noticed it.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: It is there for bugs.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_01: But the bugs do not notice it.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_01: Because they don't have enough language for someone to point it out to them.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, nobody would look there if left to their own devices.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_01: Because you see, you won't find food there.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_01: And you won't find a mate there.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's not gonna make you more attractive to mates.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's not gonna taste good.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's not going to bring you status.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_01: None of those things, so why would you look there?
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't have any of the things you normally look for in your desires and your aversions.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_01: But it was there, that lucid clarity, Dharmakaya nature of mind.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_01: The reason we take refuge
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: in the three jewels is that they exist
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_01: Not separate from us,
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_01: but quite independently of the coming and going of our personalities.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_01: So you can be as good or as bad as you want,
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_01: has absolutely no effect on Tawa.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever you do, whatever you want,
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_01: has no effect on the open clarity
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_01: This immediate presence is lucidly clear.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_01: Because it is stable in the three times, past, present, and future, it is called a nail.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_01: Tawa is always there, whether you're looking or not.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_01: But don't take my word for it.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_01: Check in the weirdest circumstances you can find yourself in to see if it moved,
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_01: if it's still there.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_01: One time, Chandra Tuku, Chaktur Rinpoche, down in Brazil, utterly freaked out.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_01: They were airlifting them out of Tibet, and his plane hit an air pocket and dropped,
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_01: and he thought his mind had moved.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_01: Totally destabilized everything he believed in.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, he grabbed it back shortly after, but
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, what an experience.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_01: If one could not grab it back again.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_02: But in that moment, give me something to stand on that's familiar.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_01: You see, Tibetans believe in the reality of up and down in their culture.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_01: Prior to modern times, Prior to the 50s, 1950s, when I was a child.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_01: And no, even shortly after that, until 1959.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_01: So prior to the 60s, my teen years,
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_01: they had never perceived anything other
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_01: that did not exist in up and down.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_01: So even their gods and their demons have up and down.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_01: Even their universe has up and down.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_01: There's nowhere outside of up and down.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_01: You see, they think it's real.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_01: And you, what do you think is real?
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_01: What do you believe in as implicitly as a Tibetan believes in up and down?
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_01: What's your cultural matrix?
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_01: Of absolute certainty.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_01: Let go.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_01: Second, there is the great nail of the unchanging meditator.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry, of the unchanging meditation.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_01: Because it is stable in the three times, it is called a nail.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_01: You see, the real meditation is utterly natural.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_01: It does not come and go because it is not made
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_01: of that which does come and go.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's not made of ideas and thoughts.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's not made of feelings or sensations.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's not made of assumptions or beliefs.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_01: It's not made of things that go bubble and squeak
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_01: and move about and sparkle at you.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_01: True meditation is just this.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_01: Awakened aware.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing done.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing undone.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_01: Complete natural state.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing imposed.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nothing removed.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_01: As it always has been.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_01: Because it is stable in the three times.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_01: It is called a nail.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_01: Third, there is the great nail of the unchanging conduct.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_00: Sopa.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_01: The immediate present awareness is lucidly clear and always has been.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_01: Because it is stable in the three times, it is called a nail.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_01: Not doing.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_01: You see, doing, you think you do things.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_01: But you have to think you are in order to be doing something.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_01: If you aren't, you can't do anything, can you?
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_01: So it's not like you have to somehow learn how to not do.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_01: Let go and leave it be.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_01: Not doing is the normal way things work.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_01: You just think you do them or they do you.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's one of those stories you make up and think is real.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_01: Fourth, there is the great nail of the unchanging fruit.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_01: This immediate present awareness is lucidly clear
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_00: because it is stable in the
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: three times it is called a nail.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_01: Guys, it's not your thoughts.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's not your orifice of attention.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's not the direction of your paying attention.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's not the feeling of relaxation.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's not the belief that you don't exist
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_01: as just one more belief system clogging the pipes.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's none of those things.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_01: It is a completely natural state.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_01: Stop trying to make it up.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like I'm trying to teach you how to breathe air.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_01: Because you're not aware that air exists.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_01: Or to explain swimming to a fish
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_01: that is afraid of drowning because it doesn't know
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_01: that it swims.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_01: Questions, let's take it from that way.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_01: I may not have gotten anything through, so let's see if there's questions to clarify.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_02: One question is, is it the grabbing at the moving stuff or engaging
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_02: in subject-object dynamics that creates the idea of an individual thinker
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_02: or mindstream?
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it is.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_02: When you talk about chasing moving phenomena instead of resting in Tawa,
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_02: I couldn't help but think of ADHD.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_02: Is there a karmic explanation for why people suffer from this condition?
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's a habit.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's just a habit.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_01: Sure, there's karmic causes.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_01: There's karmic causes for everything.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's one of the common common causes.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_01: If you do something, you'll be inclined to do it again.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_01: And if you do it lots of times, you'll be even more inclined to do it more lots of times.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_01: And that goes on until you get thoroughly, thoroughly tired of it.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_01: And then maybe you slow down a bit.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_01: Except this is assuming there's a you doing all that.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_01: It just rolls downhill.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_01: There's no hill.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it is karmic,
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_01: and it's probably a simply repeating pattern.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_01: Somewhere in life, this one or the last one towards the end,
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_01: there was some reason to keep moving, to keep your attention fluid.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_01: Almost a hypervigilance.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_01: This happens to people in war zones who live through earthquakes.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_01: They're always looking around to see where's the next thing that eats people.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_01: So you probably karmically ended up in a place like that, maybe the Asura realm.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_01: And so develop the habit of keeping,
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_01: shifting your attention from thing to thing to see if there was a danger here
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_01: or a danger there or a danger there.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_01: Now you're in a very different situation.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_01: With that Check everything, look around all the time, hypervigilance,
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_01: keep changing where you're looking.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_01: Still going on and it's not helping.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_01: One of the things you can do with ADD is let it be.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, okay, there are medications you can take when you've really got to get something done.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_01: But that shouldn't be unless you're in school where that's fairly common
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_01: or in some high powered business environment.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_01: For most people, that's only sometimes.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_01: Other times, leave it alone.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_01: Let it dweeble
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_01: while you rest
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_01: Find where it is in Tawa.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's also in there.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_02: The question is, I can practice resting in Tawa without contriving it,
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_02: and then it does not feel vast, although I have perceived its vastness before.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_02: The vastness seems to come and go.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_02: Is that right?
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_01: You rest in it.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the perception of vastness is a perception.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's moving.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_01: Focusing on a perception is not resting in Tawa.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_01: Better you rest in Tawa without expecting
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_01: a particular perception to occur.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_01: When we lead you into noticing it in the beginning,
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_01: when you've never looked in another direction ever before in your life,
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_01: we use words to point,
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_01: but we hope you will be able to put them down after a while,
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_01: such as vast, empty, luminous,
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_01: lucid, Clear light.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_01: Don't look for the words.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_01: Just relax into that empty, open awareness.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_01: It is not vast as in the sky is vast
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_01: whereas the inside of my refrigerator is small.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_01: The vast that compares to a not vast
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_01: So the vastness you're getting as a perception of vastness is comparative vastness.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_01: And that's not in there.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_01: Relax into it, relax into it.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_01: Let go of your expectations of what it's supposed to look like.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_01: Those are expectations and perceptions.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_01: They'll trip you up.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_02: The question is, let me get it set up here.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_02: How do the bilblas remain unique to the individual mindstream,
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_02: giving rise to the sense of an individual I?
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_02: How do these reincarnate as our individual karmas?
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_01: Because even two babies lying
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_01: in the crib beside each other We'll have individual experiences.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_01: One will thunk the other in the nose with the fist, just moving around.
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  SPEAKER_01: When mother picks them up to change them, she'll pick one up before the other.
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  SPEAKER_01: Immediately, they're down different experience changes.
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  SPEAKER_01: There is a creature.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_01: It lives in the vastness of interstellar space.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_01: It eats starlight and there are Gravity lines.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what kind of energy that is,
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  SPEAKER_01: that these things ride almost like rails between the different stars.
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  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, they reproduce by division.
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  SPEAKER_01: When they get big enough, they divide in two, which are exactly the same.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then immediately they have antithesis to each other.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is an instinct in this creature.
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  SPEAKER_01: To get as far away from its brother-sister, similar one, the same at first,
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  SPEAKER_01: so that the experiences will be as different as possible.
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  SPEAKER_01: Very interesting creatures.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_01: They're totally into having experiences that nobody else had before among them
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_01: because they also do a mating of combining and separating sometimes.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_01: And it does make them more attractive to have some unique experiences.
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  SPEAKER_01: Experiences to mate with.
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  SPEAKER_01: Fascinating creature.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_01: So that is how, even if you're just a cellular division of twins,
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  SPEAKER_01: just exactly the same, the moment you're not attached,
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  SPEAKER_01: you begin having separate experiences,
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  SPEAKER_01: going separate ways, even Identical twins.
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  SPEAKER_01: They do form slightly different personalities.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_01: One was born first, the other was born second.
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  SPEAKER_01: There are slightly different experiences there.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_01: One may be larger than the other after a week because they get picked up first
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  SPEAKER_01: and given the full tit.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_01: All sorts of experiences differ.
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  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_02: For a long time, resting in Tatawa appeared special and rewarding,
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_02: but nowadays it turned completely ordinary and normal.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_02: But that made my formal practice a bit sloppy.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_02: Am I off track?
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_01: Not at all.
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's supposed to be completely ordinary and normal.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_01: That's where you're trying to get to.
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_01: But since it's ordinary and normal, also by this time it should be quite enjoyable.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_01: You want to put down what you're working on occasionally and just rest.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_01: Tawa is like the big rest.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_01: So...
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_01: Don't let your practice get too sloppy, but I don't know what you mean by sloppy.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_01: Let it get loose, but not sloppy.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_01: I wonder if you are trained to call looseness sloppiness.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_01: Some conditioning in some societies will train
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_01: for a tightness to be Idealized.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_01: Many militaries do this.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_01: And so-called looseness sloppy, and it isn't always.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_01: So look at what you mean by sloppy.
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  SPEAKER_01: It should become looser at this point,
• 1:03:01
  SPEAKER_01: but not less frequent.
• 1:03:06
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_01: Also, you should be starting Ga.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_02: The question is, so if one has no effect on Tawa,
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_02: why is there a typical focus on compassion?
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_02: Is that a natural byproduct unrelated to our idea of compassion?
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_02: Something we can't understand with the thinking mind.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, absolutely.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_01: We focus on compassion because it is not uncommon
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_01: to get so into the stillness
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_01: of tawa and the restfulness of tawa
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_01: that we actually stop moving about in phenomena.
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_01: And so we end up in God realms.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_01: We either become attached to the bliss of relaxation and we end up in the God realms of form.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_01: We become attached to the ease
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_01: and power of relaxation.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_01: So we end up in the God realms of desire.
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_01: Or we become attached to the emptiness of relaxation
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_01: and end up in the formless realms.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_01: Been there, done that.
• 1:04:49
  SPEAKER_01: You have many times.
• 1:04:52
  SPEAKER_01: You're still on the wheel.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_01: You're not off.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_01: That's not the way off.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's just once around again.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_01: What is called compassion?
• 1:05:07
  SPEAKER_01: In English, which is kind of a funny word and I don't trust it,
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_01: is Buddha
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_01: consciousness in Sanskrit
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_01: and great-hearted open-mindedness in Tibetan.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_01: It has nothing to do with pity.
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_01: It has to do with that which will keep you going
• 1:05:51
  SPEAKER_01: and moving and merging the moving
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_01: and the stillness rather than clinging to the stillness
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  SPEAKER_01: since the moving is bodhicitta.
• 1:06:01
  SPEAKER_01: And by training in that, you will keep going until such time as you discover you aren't.
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_01: Y'all aren't.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_01: And isness is
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  SPEAKER_01: the occurrence in stillness as stillness.
• 1:06:31
  SPEAKER_01: There is no witness.
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  SPEAKER_01: But until that is eminently clear and obvious to you without having to make
• 1:06:43
  SPEAKER_01: a stretch, you
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  SPEAKER_01: train in bodhicitta,
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_01: which is to keep you going so you don't get stuck in another loop around the wheel,
• 1:06:59
  SPEAKER_01: which is what you do.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_01: Because we're so used to chasing goals and now we find the wonderful goal of being a god.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_01: Now there are some sects among the Hindus
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_01: that that's what they teach you how to do.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what you're going for.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_01: That's like living on beans all year and saving everything up
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_01: so you can have two weeks in one of those all-inclusive,
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_01: very high-end resorts somewhere in the sun.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_01: And then you go back and do it all again.
• 1:07:48
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe once, just to see what it felt like.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_01: So you work all year in some shit job.
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, security guard standing on your feet
• 1:08:04
  SPEAKER_01: or shop girl
• 1:08:08
  SPEAKER_01: or construction worker.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_01: You get a little money saved.
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_01: You save it all, save it all, save it all, live on beans, walk everywhere,
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_01: ride a bicycle, no car.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_01: Just to save it all for your two weeks in Hawaii.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_01: And now it's the Monday after that.
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_01: And you're back at your shit job.
• 1:08:40
  SPEAKER_01: And that's where we are.
• 1:08:43
  SPEAKER_01: Been up there, done that.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_01: This is Monday after.
• 1:08:46
  SPEAKER_02: Let's do something different now.
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_02: One of our Spanish viewers asks, when I relax in Tawa,
• 1:08:59
  SPEAKER_02: I get a sensation in my chest that's really hard to describe.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_02: It's kind of unavoidable, but you said that's not what it is.
• 1:09:11
  SPEAKER_02: Could you tell us a little more about that?
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_02: Do you have any underlying physical issues
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_01: with blood pressure or cardiac problems?
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_01: First, whenever somebody gets a funny sensation in meditation,
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_01: first see if there's a physical reason.
• 1:09:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, some things you just can fix with drink more water.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_01: I had people in retreat come to me with these weird noises in their ears
• 1:09:42
  SPEAKER_01: that won't stop and it's like, how much water are you drinking every day?
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm not.
• 1:09:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm having tea in the morning and soup at night.
• 1:09:53
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh, you're dehydrated.
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_01: And so the weird sensations went away.
• 1:10:00
  SPEAKER_01: So would you please first check this out?
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_01: Make sure your weird sensation is not physical.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_01: Then you've probably got some lung stuck there.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_01: One of the easiest ways to get lung unstuck when you've got a bubble in it
• 1:10:21
  SPEAKER_01: in the heart chakra
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_01: Or in the speech chakra is
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_01: to go out to the forest alone.
• 1:10:35
  SPEAKER_01: And for the sake of all life that lives in the forest, go at dawn or twilight.
• 1:10:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know, one of those times when animals are very active,
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_01: like just before sunset or just after sunrise or just before sunrise.
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_01: And sing as beautiful as you can, manis, to the birds,
• 1:11:02
  SPEAKER_01: with the true heart intent
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_01: that it be of benefit to them to hear this.
• 1:11:12
  SPEAKER_01: The act of singing out loud without repressing one's voice.
• 1:11:16
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care if you can carry a tune.
• 1:11:18
  SPEAKER_01: There's nobody around to judge you.
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, who cares what the birds think of it?
• 1:11:23
  SPEAKER_01: Or the bugs.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_01: Try this and see if it will get the lung moving.
• 1:11:34
  SPEAKER_01: Try a Chenrezig practice and see if that helps.
• 1:11:41
  SPEAKER_01: You're not supposed to have a funny physical sensation from it.
• 1:11:47
  SPEAKER_01: So try that and if none of that works, go see a Tibetan doctor.
• 1:11:52
  SPEAKER_01: There's medicines. You don't want looms stuck at the heart, which this could be.
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_01: I can't tell without feeling your pulse.
• 1:12:02
  SPEAKER_01: So first, check it out Western.
• 1:12:08
  SPEAKER_01: Then try a couple of simple first aids for it, like I told you.
• 1:12:12
  SPEAKER_01: If they don't work, take it to a Tibetan doctor and get the proper herbs to deal
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_01: with looms stuck in the heart because it does long-term cause problems.
• 1:12:24
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:12:26
  SPEAKER_02: The question is, can you please clarify the distinctions between tawa,
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_02: gom, and sopa?
• 1:12:34
  SPEAKER_02: View, meditation, and conduct all seem to be the same, are they?
• 1:12:41
  SPEAKER_01: They're all based the same.
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_01: They are generally all part of
• 1:12:54
  SPEAKER_01: Zogchen light in as far as they're done on purpose.
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_01: So Tawa is done on purpose until it isn't,
• 1:13:05
  SPEAKER_01: until it just happens while you're sitting down on the cushion.
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_01: Then you start doing Gom, which is where you're teaching Tawa to just happen
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_01: while you're up and moving around.
• 1:13:21
  SPEAKER_01: And you're also working on the no-grab-it.
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_01: So you notice it, relax with having noticed it,
• 1:13:35
  SPEAKER_01: but don't attempt to maintain it or grab it or do anything to it or get it
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_01: to do anything to you.
• 1:13:45
  SPEAKER_01: As a result of these two active practices, which you will do on purpose,
• 1:13:51
  SPEAKER_01: at least in the beginning, the third Sopa,
• 1:13:56
  SPEAKER_01: which is a matter of an absolute certainty in Tawa.
• 1:14:04
  SPEAKER_01: It arises in and as an absolute certainty,
• 1:14:10
  SPEAKER_01: as certain as you are of the law of gravity on earth,
• 1:14:15
  SPEAKER_01: where you make continuous motions depending on it,
• 1:14:19
  SPEAKER_01: like setting down a cup without even having to think about it.
• 1:14:26
  SPEAKER_01: When Tawa gets to that level of certainty, deep in,
• 1:14:34
  SPEAKER_01: by the method of Gaom, Sopa arises.
• 1:14:42
  SPEAKER_01: Sopa is a, but of course, like gravity,
• 1:14:47
  SPEAKER_01: awareness of
• 1:14:53
  SPEAKER_01: the transient
• 1:14:54
  SPEAKER_01: nature Of thoughts,
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_01: feelings, sensations,
• 1:15:04
  SPEAKER_01: and perceptions.
• 1:15:10
  SPEAKER_01: Rocheek
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  SPEAKER_01: is found
• 1:15:20
  SPEAKER_01: when one then,
• 1:15:23
  SPEAKER_01: once sopa has occurred,
• 1:15:28
  SPEAKER_01: Or just as it's occurring,
• 1:15:32
  SPEAKER_01: one double checks who is experiencing it
• 1:15:37
  SPEAKER_01: and finds no one there.
• 1:15:43
  SPEAKER_01: And then you can really relax.
• 1:15:49
  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
• 1:15:51
  SPEAKER_02: The question is, is the conviction of No truly existing doer,
• 1:15:58
  SPEAKER_02: the key to SOPA.
• 1:16:00
  SPEAKER_02: Even if the conviction is just intellectual,
• 1:16:03
  SPEAKER_02: how do I move to experiential conviction?
• 1:16:09
  SPEAKER_01: But I just told you.
• 1:16:13
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'll tell you again.
• 1:16:17
  SPEAKER_01: You find Tawa.
• 1:16:20
  SPEAKER_01: Never before have you looked in that particular direction,
• 1:16:24
  SPEAKER_01: so now With a teacher pointing it out to you, you do.
• 1:16:33
  SPEAKER_01: Can you shut the thing up?
• 1:16:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:16:37
  SPEAKER_01: To find Tawa, you align your channels to make it easier.
• 1:16:42
  SPEAKER_01: You leave your lips and teeth slightly apart.
• 1:16:47
  SPEAKER_01: You leave an opening in your mouth through which air can go
• 1:16:51
  SPEAKER_01: So that you're breathing mostly through your nose,
• 1:16:53
  SPEAKER_01: but a little bit through your mouth.
• 1:16:59
  SPEAKER_01: And your in breaths, you make them slightly shorter and faster than your out breaths.
• 1:17:05
  SPEAKER_01: And at the end of the out breath, you can pause for a moment,
• 1:17:10
  SPEAKER_01: but not long enough to be uncomfortable for air.
• 1:17:14
  SPEAKER_01: Just a little rest.
• 1:17:26
  SPEAKER_01: Before the in-breath again,
• 1:17:30
  SPEAKER_01: you point your eyes straight ahead
• 1:17:37
  SPEAKER_01: and you let go
• 1:17:39
  SPEAKER_01: of the point focus of looking at a thing.
• 1:17:44
  SPEAKER_01: Some people find this method easiest
• 1:17:49
  SPEAKER_00: to do
• 1:17:53
  SPEAKER_01: when
• 1:17:56
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry for the slowdown.
• 1:18:01
  SPEAKER_01: Some people find this easiest to do.
• 1:18:16
  SPEAKER_01: When you look at a point two meters in front of your nose and then let go of it.
• 1:18:23
  SPEAKER_01: But that's just a technique to find the relaxed gaze where central
• 1:18:28
  SPEAKER_01: and peripheral are equally clear, not clear.
• 1:18:36
  SPEAKER_01: Then relax.
• 1:18:46
  SPEAKER_01: Do not suppress the thinking, feeling, sensing,
• 1:18:54
  SPEAKER_01: Do not focus your attention on it either.
• 1:18:59
  SPEAKER_01: Leave it be.
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  SPEAKER_01: Look through the thoughts which are inherently and naturally transparent
• 1:19:16
  SPEAKER_00: at the where they arise and vanish
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  SPEAKER_01: for no single one of them
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  SPEAKER_01: Has either substance nor duration.
• 1:19:50
  SPEAKER_01: Don't expect to find something here.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is not in front or behind, to the left or the right, above or below.
• 1:20:05
  SPEAKER_01: It is not inside nor outside.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's all together in another direction.
• 1:20:14
  SPEAKER_01: You can only look there when your eyes are relaxed.
• 1:20:20
  SPEAKER_01: This allows the orifice of your attention to open wide and not quite focus.
• 1:20:28
  SPEAKER_00: For it is not a point.
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  SPEAKER_01: It surrounds all points.
• 1:20:38
  SPEAKER_01: And the thoughts arise.
• 1:20:43
  SPEAKER_01: They vanish.
• 1:20:47
  SPEAKER_01: Without being of interest.
• 1:20:51
  SPEAKER_01: So you pay them, no, never mind.
• 1:20:58
  SPEAKER_01: And you relax.
• 1:21:01
  SPEAKER_01: And you don't make anything of it.
• 1:21:04
  SPEAKER_01: And you don't talk to yourself about it.
• 1:21:09
  SPEAKER_01: And you don't try to describe the sensations
• 1:21:13
  SPEAKER_01: or get them to be an expected way.
• 1:21:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, we use the word emptiness.
• 1:21:27
  SPEAKER_01: It is empty of characteristics.
• 1:21:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, we use the word infinitely vast.
• 1:21:40
  SPEAKER_01: It is beyond the size of having big or little.
• 1:21:55
  SPEAKER_01: Some people.
• 1:22:00
  SPEAKER_01: On first encountering this vastness become afraid
• 1:22:07
  SPEAKER_01: because they think it's empty
• 1:22:09
  SPEAKER_01: and cold and black.
• 1:22:13
  SPEAKER_01: This is an error.
• 1:22:19
  SPEAKER_01: It is where your thoughts happen.
• 1:22:22
  SPEAKER_01: It is lucid and alive.
• 1:22:30
  SPEAKER_01: Get used to it.
• 1:22:33
  SPEAKER_01: Relaxing here.
• 1:22:38
  SPEAKER_01: Get used to allowing your awareness to open
• 1:22:42
  SPEAKER_01: and settle without point focus.
• 1:22:48
  SPEAKER_01: Train it to do so easily, like driving a car or riding a bicycle.
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  SPEAKER_01: Practice it until it's easy.
• 1:23:05
  SPEAKER_01: This is called Tawa, even though it isn't a thing that you can name,
• 1:23:14
  SPEAKER_01: since it's utterly lacking in characteristics or size or shape.
• 1:23:22
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, size and shape are characteristics.
• 1:23:28
  SPEAKER_01: But we need to mention it to each other, so we'll call it Tawa.
• 1:23:37
  SPEAKER_01: Now once you are totally at ease with Tawa,
• 1:23:42
  SPEAKER_01: once it is simple and easy to rest in,
• 1:23:47
  SPEAKER_01: and you find yourself doing that many times a day between things,
• 1:23:55
  SPEAKER_01: it is time for GAM.
• 1:23:59
  SPEAKER_01: GAM is where you move your noticement of Tawa
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  SPEAKER_01: From between things into things.
• 1:24:12
  SPEAKER_01: Gum is done while walking and talking,
• 1:24:17
  SPEAKER_01: eating and sleeping, getting up and sitting down.
• 1:24:23
  SPEAKER_01: Many, many times, frequently, but without grasping or holding the concept,
• 1:24:33
  SPEAKER_01: you allow your attention to open
• 1:24:37
  SPEAKER_01: And notice Tawa without allowing that to interfere in any way
• 1:24:42
  SPEAKER_01: with what you are doing, nor allowing what you are doing to interfere in any way
• 1:24:48
  SPEAKER_01: with noticing Tawa.
• 1:24:52
  SPEAKER_01: Do not try to maintain it.
• 1:24:56
  SPEAKER_01: Do not try to hang on to it.
• 1:24:59
  SPEAKER_01: Do not try to talk to yourself about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just do it.
• 1:25:09
  SPEAKER_01: Until it does itself.
• 1:25:16
  SPEAKER_01: This is where SOPA can arise.
• 1:25:21
  SPEAKER_01: SOPA is dancing stillness.
• 1:25:26
  SPEAKER_01: It is the awareness of the phenomena of thoughts, feelings, and sensations.
• 1:25:32
  SPEAKER_01: All of that in an entanglement called a perception.
• 1:25:39
  SPEAKER_01: Being Tawa and nothing other than Tawa.
• 1:25:47
  SPEAKER_01: Sopa.
• 1:25:52
  SPEAKER_01: Which directly leads to the recognition of how the doer spins the doing,
• 1:25:57
  SPEAKER_01: spins the doer, spins the doing.
• 1:26:03
  SPEAKER_01: And you can giggle and get on with it.
• 1:26:09
  SPEAKER_01: More questions?
• 1:26:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, there are a couple here.
• 1:26:14
  SPEAKER_01: I thought that might have satisfied everybody.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you answered a couple of questions in passing, I think.
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  SPEAKER_02: The next question is, I can abide in the natural state or perceive Tawa.
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  SPEAKER_02: Is doing both as often as possible good?
• 1:26:34
  SPEAKER_01: Since Tawa is the natural state, I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
• 1:26:44
  SPEAKER_01: Try finding some other way
• 1:26:48
  SPEAKER_01: that doesn't separate those two because they are not separate.
• 1:26:54
  SPEAKER_01: I wonder what you think you're doing.
• 1:26:58
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, next question.
• 1:27:01
  SPEAKER_02: Does bipolar disorder have an impact
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  SPEAKER_02: on one's capacity for understanding Zogchitz?
• 1:27:11
  SPEAKER_01: With bipolar disorder,
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  SPEAKER_01: I would recommend appropriate medication if possible.
• 1:27:22
  SPEAKER_01: Now, sometimes the side effects are not making it worth it.
• 1:27:28
  SPEAKER_01: When that happens, too much side effects.
• 1:27:47
  SPEAKER_01: Probably you want to really spend a lot of time on working with thoughts and working
• 1:27:53
  SPEAKER_01: with emotions.
• 1:27:56
  SPEAKER_01: These two techniques should allow you,
• 1:28:01
  SPEAKER_01: plus of course, tawa and gom,
• 1:28:05
  SPEAKER_01: should allow you to see through the depression elation.
• 1:28:12
  SPEAKER_01: At least to some extent, the concern is that during the elation periods,
• 1:28:18
  SPEAKER_01: you are likely to think you're enlightened,
• 1:28:24
  SPEAKER_01: which interrupts your practice.
• 1:28:28
  SPEAKER_01: And then during the depressive periods, you're likely to think you're an idiot,
• 1:28:34
  SPEAKER_01: which also disrupts your practice.
• 1:28:37
  SPEAKER_01: So really try for the medication.
• 1:28:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's one of the more Annoying mental glitches to suffer from.
• 1:28:46
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:28:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's a follow-up question from the viewer who had sensations in the heart.
• 1:28:54
  SPEAKER_02: And the follow-up question is, this sensation is extremely pleasant.
• 1:29:00
  SPEAKER_02: Is that okay?
• 1:29:04
  SPEAKER_01: Don't know.
• 1:29:09
  SPEAKER_01: Without examining you and taking your pulse, which I'm not in a position to do here,
• 1:29:18
  SPEAKER_01: I can't rule out this being lung.
• 1:29:30
  SPEAKER_01: If it's not bothering you, go ahead.
• 1:29:32
  SPEAKER_01: I have no idea, though, if it's okay or not.
• 1:29:34
  SPEAKER_01: I do think you should probably
• 1:29:38
  SPEAKER_01: At least Western doctors won't examine something the patient finds pleasant.
• 1:29:46
  SPEAKER_01: So I suggest you at least get your pulse taken by a Tibetan practitioner.
• 1:29:59
  SPEAKER_01: Lung in the heart would be,
• 1:30:04
  SPEAKER_01: In Chinese, living in the heart, in Tibetan, in Chinese, I think,
• 1:30:09
  SPEAKER_01: might be rising liver wind with phlegm in the heart.
• 1:30:17
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm not sure of the translation there between Chinese and Tibetan,
• 1:30:21
  SPEAKER_01: and I think this would best be addressed with a Tibetan practitioner.
• 1:30:24
  SPEAKER_01: Just let them fill your pulse and check it out once.
• 1:30:28
  SPEAKER_01: They're around.
• 1:30:31
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:30:33
  SPEAKER_02: The question is,
• 1:30:34
  SPEAKER_02: how do I deal with how heavy and dense it feels coming back from Tawa?
• 1:30:44
  SPEAKER_01: Stiff upper lip and return to Tawa soon.
• 1:30:56
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:31:01
  SPEAKER_01: It is going to feel like that until you get to sopa.
• 1:31:08
  SPEAKER_01: So keep practicing.
• 1:31:11
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:31:13
  SPEAKER_02: How do I go beyond the perception of Tawa?
• 1:31:16
  SPEAKER_02: It feels like it is always a perception.
• 1:31:24
  SPEAKER_01: By relaxing into it.
• 1:31:28
  SPEAKER_01: And not trying to point focus on it.
• 1:31:32
  SPEAKER_01: Keep the orifice of your attention,
• 1:31:37
  SPEAKER_01: the focus of the orifice of your attention wide open in order to have a perception
• 1:31:43
  SPEAKER_01: that has to at least briefly narrow.
• 1:31:46
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't have to pin narrow like it usually is,
• 1:31:49
  SPEAKER_01: but it has to at least go spotlight rather than wide open surround.
• 1:31:55
  SPEAKER_01: So keep that open would be your best bet.
• 1:32:00
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:32:02
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes during... Work with your eyes.
• 1:32:04
  SPEAKER_01: It follows your eyes.
• 1:32:06
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry. Go ahead now.
• 1:32:09
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes during longer meditation sessions,
• 1:32:12
  SPEAKER_02: I enter a foggy and very spacious state
• 1:32:16
  SPEAKER_02: which lacks clarity with no sense of place
• 1:32:20
  SPEAKER_02: or location.
• 1:32:21
  SPEAKER_02: Should I pop it with peh or just let it be?
• 1:32:25
  SPEAKER_01: Pop it with peh.
• 1:32:28
  SPEAKER_01: Ice water also works.
• 1:32:31
  SPEAKER_01: Sprig of Juniper in the ice water.
• 1:32:37
  SPEAKER_00: That also pops it.
• 1:32:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's sort of on the edge of sleep, you see.
• 1:32:45
  SPEAKER_01: On the edge of loss of consciousness.
• 1:32:48
  SPEAKER_01: And you want consciousness, lucidity and clarity in there, or you want.
• 1:32:54
  SPEAKER_01: It naturally has those things, but sometimes as a,
• 1:33:02
  SPEAKER_01: Self-sabotage that we all do in the beginning and probably in the middle and the end too.
• 1:33:09
  SPEAKER_01: We
• 1:33:20
  SPEAKER_01: scritch it, scrinch it, constrict.
• 1:33:25
  SPEAKER_01: So just try to keep relaxing.
• 1:33:30
  SPEAKER_01: Next question.
• 1:33:32
  SPEAKER_02: I find it really hard to notice Tawa off the cushion.
• 1:33:36
  SPEAKER_02: I can maintain a single pointed focus leading to brief noticing.
• 1:33:42
  SPEAKER_02: Any tips to notice Tawa when one is doing things?
• 1:33:48
  SPEAKER_01: No, you just haven't spent enough time on the cushion yet.
• 1:33:52
  SPEAKER_01: It hasn't become ordinary and easy for you, so it's not time to get off the cushion yet.
• 1:34:00
  SPEAKER_01: Take it in stages.
• 1:34:03
  SPEAKER_01: Accomplish each stage until accomplishment is irrelevant.
• 1:34:13
  SPEAKER_01: So you really need to spend quite a while,
• 1:34:18
  SPEAKER_01: like years, relaxing on the cushion,
• 1:34:24
  SPEAKER_01: a bench, Sitting somewhere and pausing between the many doings of life.
• 1:34:34
  SPEAKER_01: Because it is so much easier to relax into Tawa in a pause.
• 1:34:40
  SPEAKER_01: So start with the pause and get good at it.
• 1:34:49
  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
• 1:34:52
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
• 1:34:54
  SPEAKER_02: We may be at the end of the on-topic questions.
• 1:34:57
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:34:58
  SPEAKER_01: And we're at about an hour and a half, so we're good.
• 1:35:01
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:35:03
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:35:07
  SPEAKER_00: Satsang with Mooji, Njur Duda Chichisam.
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  SPEAKER_00: Satsang with Mooji Go partial.
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  SPEAKER_01: May all beings be free.
• 1:35:33
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• 1:35:40
  SPEAKER_02: Can we mention translators? Yes.
• 1:35:43
  SPEAKER_02: We had Russian?
• 1:35:44
  SPEAKER_02: We had a lot of translators here today.
• 1:35:47
  SPEAKER_01: We had a Spanish translator, a Russian translator, and what was the third?
• 1:35:52
  SPEAKER_01: We had Hebrew.
• 1:35:55
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• 1:36:01
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• 1:36:09
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• 1:36:14
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• 1:36:19
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• 1:36:24
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• 1:36:32
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• 1:36:37
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• 1:36:40
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• 1:36:48
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• 1:36:51
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• 1:36:58
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• 1:37:01
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, if any of you wish to get into a relationship with some of the yogis
• 1:37:09
  SPEAKER_01: of being their benefactor, if you're at the time of your life
• 1:37:14
  SPEAKER_01: where you've got more money than time, This is, you know,
• 1:37:19
  SPEAKER_01: when you start hiring a Mo and Go guy and maybe even someone to help
• 1:37:24
  SPEAKER_01: with the deep cleaning once a month.
• 1:37:28
  SPEAKER_01: When you reach that time in your life,
• 1:37:32
  SPEAKER_01: it's also if you support one of the yogis in retreat and they live in retreat,
• 1:37:39
  SPEAKER_01: you share some of the benefits of their practice because you enable their practice.
• 1:37:46
  SPEAKER_01: So if you want to get involved in that,
• 1:37:48
  SPEAKER_01: it costs about the same as an extra large pizza a month with a beer,
• 1:37:54
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• 1:38:01
  SPEAKER_01: Then send me an email that that's what you're interested in, and I'll put you in touch.
• 1:38:08
  SPEAKER_01: Is there anything else?
• 1:38:12
  SPEAKER_01: Library.
• 1:38:14
  SPEAKER_01: Karen, who I believe has a No, is it?
• 1:38:18
  SPEAKER_02: No, Vicky, who should have a button
• 1:38:20
  SPEAKER_01: up there, Victoria, is getting collections for the library.
• 1:38:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's the only books in the village of Solpema in Tibetan, English, and Hindi.
• 1:38:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's the only place the kids can go find anything other than a school book
• 1:38:38
  SPEAKER_01: or religious text to read.
• 1:38:41
  SPEAKER_01: We think it's important, so we maintain that.
• 1:38:45
  SPEAKER_01: Offerings to help maintain and pay the rent of it should go to Victoria Salviti.
• 1:38:53
  SPEAKER_01: And if you want to bring it books, you have to haul them to Sopema yourself.
• 1:39:00
  SPEAKER_01: There's no way of doing it by post.
• 1:39:05
  SPEAKER_01: Are we done?
• 1:39:06
  SPEAKER_02: I think we are.
• 1:39:09
  SPEAKER_01: Did I dedicate the merits? I'm going to do it again.
• 1:39:11
  SPEAKER_02: Okay. Okay.
• 1:39:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we're all in
• 1:39:19
  SPEAKER_00: this together.
• 1:39:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's the essence of roadshake and bodhicitta.
• 1:39:46
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