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- 0:01Today on the podcast, we're going to be looking at random
- 0:04ideas around prospecting. I repeat, random ideas around
- 0:09prospecting. If this your first time of
- 0:11listening to the podcast, prospecting is just the whole
- 0:15process. You know the strategy and then
- 0:17also the activities that you carry out when you're trying to
- 0:20figure out who is your ideal customer, who is the ideal
- 0:25person that needs your product or service, who might want your
- 0:27product or service? Where are they?
- 0:29Where do they hang out online? Where can I find them physical,
- 0:33physical. Where can I see them?
- 0:35Now that I know where they are? How can I come up with a plan to
- 0:39call them up or to go to the office or to get them to come to
- 0:42my office or for me to go to their showroom or that we should
- 0:45have online meeting. So all the activities that are
- 0:49around these sorts of things, who are my customers, who are my
- 0:53customers, where I did, where I did, how will I track them down?
- 0:56How will I start the conversation, how we be yawning,
- 0:59how will I set up a meeting, all of that, that is called
- 1:02prospecting. So the reason why we're going to
- 1:06do that is because while I consult for clients, sometimes
- 1:10my work involves prospecting on their behalf.
- 1:14It's not as if it's my work or but sometimes just so that the
- 1:19sales team I'm training know that look, this thing no be
- 1:23like, it's not like do or die like it's not that hard.
- 1:26It's difficult to and it can be stressful, but just so you know
- 1:30that look, this thing is a normal something that anybody
- 1:33can do if you just follow some simple processes.
- 1:35So once in a while me my pick up the phone on behalf of my
- 1:38clients and I say, Oh yeah, you guys just watch.
- 1:40You see, as I do, I'm this is the thought process.
- 1:44Just following step by step by step like this.
- 1:46Just be cool, just be calm. If you can do it like this, you
- 1:50should be able to knock up, excuse me, knock out your calls
- 1:54and prospecting should be a little bit easier.
- 1:56So I made some prospecting calls today.
- 1:59So excuse me. And then what is a few things
- 2:04that I'm sure I haven't spoken about on the podcast before?
- 2:07So I said, let me quickly come and make this recording.
- 2:10Oh, and then sorry about my voice because, you know, I
- 2:12already made one podcast recording before, been in a
- 2:15coaching session and then also had to do prospecting calls.
- 2:18So my voice is a little tired. Oh, by the way, that seems to be
- 2:23the only working hazard when it comes to those of us who are
- 2:25professional salespeople. You know, your voice will become
- 2:28tired. So I've heard that you can drink
- 2:30or grow. I heard that you can take honey
- 2:32and ginger. Excuse me, and a couple of other
- 2:35things, you know, take care of your voice.
- 2:37So maybe that's one thing I should mention I haven't
- 2:40mentioned before. You know, if you're going to get
- 2:41into sales, you know, look for some regimes, you know, some
- 2:45tips and tricks to take care of your voice because your voice is
- 2:48a, you know, is a tool of trade because you want to pick up the
- 2:51phone and you want somebody to hear hello.
- 2:54And once they hear your melodious sweet voice, you know,
- 2:56they are ready to engage in conversation.
- 2:59So yeah, that's one tip for today.
- 3:02Now, of course, making today's recording right at my desk at
- 3:05home. So there's going to be some
- 3:07noise in the background. Now.
- 3:09Welcome to the podcast. I'm your host.
- 3:11My name is Tava Shima Aidi. For years I've been bringing you
- 3:14guys value over here, practical, realistic, relevant insights,
- 3:18things that work in the Nigerian market.
- 3:21So if you want to move away from all that generic stuff you see
- 3:25online about growing business in Nigeria and you all practical
- 3:28way to move your business forward, then this podcast is
- 3:31for you. Excuse me.
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- 3:38with me, call me, send me a text message, send me a WhatsApp
- 3:42message on 08064662140. So today, now I said just some
- 3:51random stuff. It's not as if my ideas are very
- 3:53organized right now. So one of my clients now in the
- 3:58content production space, brand new sales team, just fully
- 4:03minted. You know, they haven't done this
- 4:04thing before. So that's the reason why, you
- 4:06know, I'm picking up the phone, calling one or two things on
- 4:08their behalf. After that, I say one or two
- 4:10things, one or two companies, one or two people on their
- 4:12behalf. After that, you know, we will
- 4:15ask we compare notes and then just to show that look, you
- 4:18people are fresh, but you know, no, they fear is not that it's
- 4:21not that hard in the beginning. Your mouth good is Sheikh you
- 4:23know is normal because it's not as if when we're born, the
- 4:26teachers, this is how you talk to strangers.
- 4:28But we practice and then we having a framework following
- 4:32some principles, some simple guidelines.
- 4:34You know, it can be OK, but or you get better with time and
- 4:37trust me, everybody fumbles. In fact, last week I fumble one
- 4:41call and I'm wondering like, haha, a homie, how can I be
- 4:44fumbling at this stage? But it's just it's perfectly
- 4:46normal. So it happens.
- 4:48It happens to everybody, every single person, even Brad Tracy.
- 4:53I heard him say one time that he's have a formal they call.
- 4:55I knew Brad Tracy can be from being called because this guy
- 4:58has been calling since since before us an embryo.
- 5:00Even Brad Tracy can form who am I?
- 5:03So don't worry, don't fear. It's just one of these things.
- 5:07So there's one organization now and I'm supposed to call into on
- 5:10their behalf. I called front desk and of
- 5:13course, you know, nobody answered, which is normal, by
- 5:16the way. That's the reason why the
- 5:17parties have been saying whenever you're trying to reach
- 5:19out to somebody, if it's the general number you found that
- 5:22you're just wasting your time because let's face it, how many
- 5:27secretaries or front desk people are proactive?
- 5:31You know, it's not as if they will see your call and then they
- 5:33will call you back. So do some research ahead of
- 5:36time. Check websites, check Instagram,
- 5:37check LinkedIn, go and see if you can get an alternative
- 5:41contact, you know, but anyway, if front desk is the only option
- 5:44you have, no holler, no problem. We'll call the front desk.
- 5:47So that's nobody gave me. I called the front desk.
- 5:50Of course, you know, Popo no answer.
- 5:52I sent text messages. Then I said, let me just go on
- 5:55Snoop around a bit. I checked website and then lo
- 5:57and behold, I found some other numbers.
- 6:00So step one, you're calling into another business.
- 6:04You want them to become a buyer of your product or your service.
- 6:07Please, my guy, my babe, listening to this podcast now,
- 6:11my friends, do not rely on one number only big mistake.
- 6:17And do not rely on that general number.
- 6:19That general number goes to admin, it goes to receptionist,
- 6:23it goes to ground floor, it goes to security post, it goes to
- 6:27basically it goes to a place where it's not going to help
- 6:30you. Then even if you're going to
- 6:33make that kind of call, do some research ahead of time so that
- 6:35you know who it is you're talking to.
- 6:37So like a mouse case. Now the strategy is whenever I'm
- 6:41calling into this business, because one of the per people
- 6:44that I want to talk to is whoever is in charge of their
- 6:46business development or whoever is in charge of their marketing
- 6:49or whoever is in charge of their community development, I just
- 6:52call. If I do some reset, it helps if
- 6:54I do some reset ahead of time and have a specific name.
- 6:56So if you call that number and it's the reception is the
- 6:59answers and say hello, is this also business?
- 7:01It says, yes, it is who is speaking?
- 7:04And you say, oh, my name is Kuli.
- 7:06Please put me through to Kelichi, your head of business
- 7:09development. You hear the way that thing
- 7:11sounds? It sounds like you already know
- 7:13who you're supposed to. She'll say 1 moment.
- 7:15Let me check. Oh, sorry.
- 7:17Kelechi is noise. You cannot leave a message.
- 7:19You see? Can you understand Now The thing
- 7:21is moving forward because you don't want to meet at the head
- 7:24of time and you know one specific person that you're
- 7:26supposed to call. By the way, don't worry, the
- 7:29information is outdated. If it's outdated, she will tell
- 7:31you say oh, Kelechi no longer works here anymore.
- 7:33So I'm sorry about that. So who is his successor or who
- 7:38is now responsible for so so so so you understand?
- 7:42So one number, fah fah foul. Don't rely on one number.
- 7:47Go go and get some other numbers.
- 7:49But if that number is the only number you have and the person
- 7:53that answers it is in security post or receptionist, no
- 7:56problem. Try and get passed through to
- 7:59who the relevant party is for whatever your product or your
- 8:02service is. The people who are supposed to
- 8:05make the consideration, the people who are trying, who are
- 8:07supposed to make the decision, That's the person that you want
- 8:10to get passed along to. So that is step one.
- 8:14Then I dialed the other numbers, PO PO, no answer.
- 8:18I sent text message the two of them.
- 8:20Now Step 2, whenever you call, don't just say nobody answered.
- 8:25I'll call again the next day. No, you need to register an
- 8:28impression. You need to mark register that
- 8:30you called. You should register an
- 8:33impression. These people that you called,
- 8:35some people are proactive. They'll say, OK, somebody
- 8:38called. This is the person.
- 8:40Some people will call you back. Not everybody, but some people
- 8:42will call you back. Either way, mark register, make
- 8:45a mental impression so that when you call the next time and you
- 8:48say, hello, this is Kemi from are they Kemi and Emmanuel
- 8:54Design. So say, oh, OK, I think I saw a
- 8:56number like that last week. You see, that's the whole point
- 9:00of marking register. There is some prior context that
- 9:03you can now use to carry on that conversation.
- 9:06So always use text message to mark register.
- 9:09If I what I've been telling people is send text message,
- 9:12then send SMS if there's e-mail, sorry, what did I say?
- 9:17Send text messages that was really SMS.
- 9:20Then if it's on WhatsApp, send WhatsApp.
- 9:22If there's e-mail, send the e-mail.
- 9:24Some people say is that no overkill, Relax in the beginning
- 9:28seems like overkill. But The thing is we don't know
- 9:31what kind of what kind of communication patterns then put
- 9:36it this way that this company uses.
- 9:39There are some companies that WhatsApp do answer you shop,
- 9:41shop, shop e-mail if you like, send that e-mail the one side 2
- 9:45years later and there's some companies that e-mail, don't
- 9:49answer shop, shop, shop, shop. But WhatsApp message that we're
- 9:51showing you is one of the problems that I have working
- 9:54with international NGOs. That's the problem that I have
- 9:56cause to be honest, me, I like WhatsApp.
- 9:58What is international company? Any small team e-mail, e-mail,
- 10:01e-mail. In my mind, I'm thinking if we
- 10:04can just go on the phone. All these emails have been
- 10:06emailing back and forth for the past three or four days.
- 10:09One phone call 30 minutes before they all sort out everything.
- 10:13So anyway, it's not about us, it's about what the people
- 10:16prefer. So that's the reason why I say
- 10:18in the beginning, just send based on that response, you now
- 10:21know like, oh, OK, this is a phone call person every single
- 10:24time, let me call this person first or this is an e-mail
- 10:28person. From now, henceforth I will be
- 10:30sending only e-mail. So just send it.
- 10:33So I think that's a Step 2. Like I said, I didn't write all
- 10:36these things out, so I'm just restarting in case I get my
- 10:39numbers mixed up. Now, Step 3.
- 10:41In fact, that's the main thing that I wanted to say.
- 10:44If you're calling into some organization and that
- 10:46organization happens to have a sales team, that is the best
- 10:50place to call into because we salespeople now you know how
- 10:53military people do a spirit decor, you know, soldier, they
- 10:56salute themselves, Navy, they salute themselves.
- 10:58All of them aspirate decor because you know we are all one.
- 11:01So they help each other. It's the same thing in sales
- 11:05when one marketer sees another marketer aspirate the call.
- 11:08Any way they can help now just aspirate the call.
- 11:11So it's the same thing with those of us in sales.
- 11:14If you call in to a sales department and I say, oh, bro, I
- 11:18beg Novak's, you know, I'd be want to speak to social.
- 11:23And so I'm not sure who's responsible for this.
- 11:25This is personal though, you know, as per one brother to
- 11:27another, one sister to another, they will help you out.
- 11:30They'll say, OK, Olga Kilichi is no longer the person that is
- 11:34there is now Madam Vadeka. And you know, don't don't put
- 11:37you through because sales people help each other.
- 11:39So if this is a sales number call and another thing, sales
- 11:43people, there are only people that have sense in any
- 11:44organization. And I'm saying it without
- 11:47without fear or favour, not only says people get sense in any
- 11:51organization because this organization now that I'm trying
- 11:53to call big organization Victoria Island, see their
- 11:56website, sweet. See the videos, everything
- 11:59flowing wonderful. See the Instagram to die for you
- 12:02look at this organization Mandy thing resembles you know,
- 12:06international agencies like New York, London, you know that kind
- 12:09of thing. But meanwhile, not on any pick
- 12:12up. I tried sending WhatsApp
- 12:14message. Nothing on WhatsApp message
- 12:16about trust the sales team now sales team definitely down
- 12:19WhatsApp. So I've sent WhatsApp message
- 12:21and of course I know that we'll start chatting.
- 12:23So that's why I say salespeople that only people that have sense
- 12:25in any organization. The only people that have
- 12:27initiative everybody else the only just to show up and collect
- 12:30salary. Salespeople were the only people
- 12:32who have ginger were the only people who have drive.
- 12:35So if you do research and you see that they have #4 sales and
- 12:41marketing team, call them. Sales and marketing people
- 12:44aspirate the call. They will help you out.
- 12:46They'll hook you up. I know some of you are not
- 12:48convinced. Try it first.
- 12:49You will see. I don't know why it works, but
- 12:52military people, you know, they help themselves out.
- 12:55The same thing. Salespeople, we just help
- 12:57ourselves out. I don't know why, it just is.
- 13:00Then let's see what again. So there's one company now.
- 13:05I told these people that they should do research.
- 13:07Go and research the company. Tell me about the company that
- 13:09will make the call. Now, this is the reason why I've
- 13:13made some podcast episodes in the past where I spoke about
- 13:15data enrichment. Now data enrichment is this.
- 13:18When you're about to call somebody, you want that person
- 13:20to be your customer. You want the person to buy a
- 13:22product to buy or service. You suppose do some small
- 13:25research before you call. And this is the reason why when
- 13:29you're about to call somebody and on sheet of paper it's just
- 13:32080, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then there's a name.
- 13:35It's hard to make that call. You don't know the person I'm
- 13:38calling. Is he a man or a woman?
- 13:39Is the person old or young? Is the person nice or cold?
- 13:43Is the person yoga or is the person the houseboy?
- 13:45You have no idea. So entering that kind of call
- 13:49now is just too vague. But by the time you do some
- 13:52small data research, you will now have the proper frame of
- 13:56mind to now address that call. So if you do small research, go
- 13:59and check Google something, you find out some information on the
- 14:02person you will know. So let's say the information you
- 14:06had before was 080 blah blah blah and the name on it was
- 14:09Khilichi Hen Nacho during I'll stop using here natural.
- 14:13I just heard the name recently and it sounds like a correct
- 14:15name. So that's what I've been saying
- 14:16in here natural. So let's say that was on the
- 14:20something 080 blah blah blah Khilichi Hen Nacho.
- 14:23How you make that call, you don't know.
- 14:25But if you now if you know that Khilichi Hen Nacho is the MD of
- 14:29the company, he founded it when he was 15.
- 14:32He's currently 65. He's currently in retirement,
- 14:37was educated in Harvard, and relocated back to Nigeria 20
- 14:42years ago. You see in your mind, because
- 14:45you already have that mental picture, you already know how
- 14:48you start that conversation, the way you greet the guy, you
- 14:50already know the accent you want to form.
- 14:53You already know you see where I'm coming from.
- 14:56Whenever you see Kelechi and then you do some small research,
- 15:01you find out that this guy just recently founded the company.
- 15:04He recently finished from last PO tech.
- 15:06He did his NYC just two years ago.
- 15:12You know, you can see how in the first example, the way you start
- 15:18the call is different. The second example, the way you
- 15:20start the call is different. The way you expect the calls to
- 15:23flow is different. So data enrichment very, very
- 15:27important. Too many of you will just see
- 15:30the phone number 080 something something something Kelechi and
- 15:33natural, and then you will now call.
- 15:35How do you know if you're supposed to start the
- 15:36conversation by saying good morning, Sir, or by saying good
- 15:39morning Bros, or by saying chief I heal or by saying senior man.
- 15:45How you know data enrichment first and Please remember sales
- 15:51is always a conversation is a human being talking to a human
- 15:54being. So be relaxed, become be free is
- 15:58a human being we're talking to is not angels, it's not demons,
- 16:01it's not God. So relax, become, do small data
- 16:05enrichment and then just call. Don't worry, some of you end up
- 16:10being too forward. That happened to me.
- 16:12Don't worry when you're forward, they will shut you down.
- 16:15Well, when they shot you down, you'll never make that mistake
- 16:18again. But don't worry, you will only
- 16:20make that mistake once. So don't even worry about being
- 16:23too forward. In fact, it's even better that
- 16:25you're too forward and then they shot you down.
- 16:27Then you are too meek, you are too timid.
- 16:30You are too, you know, somehow. And then the conversation never
- 16:34peaks. They'll say be like say this guy
- 16:37never shop or this baby slow. So it's OK.
- 16:40I'm not saying we should go and be rude, but I'm not saying that
- 16:43you can make mistakes either way.
- 16:45Being too forward or being too withdrawn.
- 16:47Being too forward is OK if your mouth is running too fast, this
- 16:51is Nigeria, they will shut you down and you will take dressing
- 16:55and you will learn. If you're too withdrawn, your
- 16:58conversations are never moving forward.
- 17:00You will never know why because nobody's going to say young man,
- 17:04can you speak up please? Or you know young lady, can you
- 17:07be more assertive? You know, nobody will tell you
- 17:10that. Where was I?
- 17:13Data enrichment? So they gave me some information
- 17:19or rather they said they couldn't find any information.
- 17:22So my mind I'm thinking is because these boys are young
- 17:25than you, that's why. So I took it now and then I said
- 17:27Google prep. I didn't see any information.
- 17:30I said now. So that's OK, let me try one
- 17:33thing. So I now went to Google Gemini
- 17:36and then I put it there as a prompt.
- 17:38Please give me information on so, so, so, and so company.
- 17:42To the best of my knowledge, the registered office is supposed to
- 17:44be on so so so and so St. Eric Moore, Sue Leary.
- 17:48It is supposed to be a Co working space.
- 17:51And then I hit send because I know that sometimes these AI
- 17:55tools can be more thorough than human beings when we're doing
- 17:58our search. And lo and behold, it worked.
- 18:02It now gave me this and said, based on the information that
- 18:05you have given me, two companies match this profile.
- 18:08Company #1 seems most like it and these are the contact
- 18:12details. The address is indeed so, so, so
- 18:14and so this is the phone number blah, blah, blah.
- 18:16It just put everything down there.
- 18:17Prep I said does it See, when it comes to research, I've been
- 18:25talking about AI tools, but some of you are not paying attention.
- 18:27These things are powerful tools. Let's use this thing to build
- 18:30our business. Yeah.
- 18:32It's not every time that you just pick up the phone and
- 18:35you're using the phone to you know, you just be browsing theme
- 18:38up and down. Internet is more than a film was
- 18:41supposed to make some money with this thing.
- 18:43So use these AI tools to make money.
- 18:45The research capabilities of these tools very, very nice,
- 18:48very sweet, very, very sweet. I'm telling you from experience.
- 18:53So that's how the thing gave me two details.
- 18:57I called the first number, no answer.
- 18:59You know, I was looking at see if that company has gone out of
- 19:01business. So we'll fashion that one.
- 19:03But then he also gave me an alternative.
- 19:06Can you see that I told you to please give me contract details
- 19:09for this one. And basically the AI tool said
- 19:12based on what you're trying to achieve, it'd be like say this,
- 19:14other people might be a good candidate, you know, give them a
- 19:17call to and of course I'm going to give them a call.
- 19:21Now, it doesn't mean everything will click right?
- 19:24But The thing is, you know, when you're in sales now, the
- 19:27attitude is anyway is a way we're trying to see how we can
- 19:30Chuck head so we can move forward.
- 19:32Because in if you Chuck head and the thing works Commission, you
- 19:36make money. But if you relax and you're not
- 19:40trying to, you know, you understand now, if you're not
- 19:43trying to move, nothing will enter your bank account.
- 19:49And believe me, there's nothing as sweet as you organize one or
- 19:53two things and then bring him. You look at your bank account
- 19:57and you see a few more zeros. Nothing is very sweet, very,
- 20:00very sweet. That is what makes it possible
- 20:02for some of us, because yesterday my children are
- 20:04telling me that they want ice cream.
- 20:06There is Independence Day. My mind, I'm thinking what these
- 20:09children are big, any small thing, ice cream, pizza, ice
- 20:13cream, pizza. And I said no, no ice cream.
- 20:16And then my wife said it's Independence Day.
- 20:18And then my mom looked at me one time because mom sees around.
- 20:22I said OK, Oh well, maybe so you can only do pizza and ice cream.
- 20:29When you try and use your head, you know, you try and arrange
- 20:33something and then you hear ping him.
- 20:35It is ping him that makes pizza and makes ice cream possible.
- 20:42It is hustling and anyway is a way.
- 20:45Let me make a way. That is what makes school fees
- 20:47possible. I was on Instagram and I was
- 20:50seeing these guys eat Larry Legsos when that guy oh, that
- 20:55guy is bad, very, very bad. See the way he tricks out his
- 20:59legs host as in the when they revved the engine, you know,
- 21:05detailing on point the gearbox, he the gearbox, he his own
- 21:09gearbox was a samurai sword as Abuja boys are just mad the way
- 21:13that they're customizing their cars very, very customized cars.
- 21:17So if you like that kind of lifestyle, customized car, Lexus
- 21:21one that the engine is shouting. That's only made possible when
- 21:29you are trying to, you know, that anyway, is a way, that's
- 21:34the attitude that we need in sales.
- 21:37These AI tools are making our lives very, very easy.
- 21:40In fact, there's one of my clients, the the one who owns a
- 21:42solar company. This guy's advanced when it
- 21:44comes to, well, it's not as if he's advanced, but he's more
- 21:46curious than I am. So every time they'll be telling
- 21:49me that, oh, do you know that you can do deep research on this
- 21:51and deep research. OK, OK, OK.
- 21:54You know, but as I'm concerned, deep research, I don't even need
- 21:58deep research. I haven't finished the ordinary
- 21:59version, which one is now advanced version.
- 22:02So look at it's nice to have the paid version and the everything,
- 22:07but we can do a lot with the free version.
- 22:09So Google Gemini, the free version, it has deep research,
- 22:12it has guided learning, it has, you know, all kinds of things.
- 22:15But you know what, I'm not even going towards that level.
- 22:21The free version, the basic version is very OK for what
- 22:24we're trying to do, which is we're trying to make some money.
- 22:26We're trying to put some zeros in our bank account so that we
- 22:31can soften our life. Small Independence Day
- 22:35yesterday, no light one week, no water one week.
- 22:43We need to soften our life now. Yeah, it's not a seem to be born
- 22:47in Nigeria Anyway, so that's it. There's just some random
- 22:52thoughts around prospecting. I know this is not the most
- 22:55organized podcast episode that I've made in a while, but I hope
- 22:58I've been able to deliver some value to those of you who are
- 23:01listening right now. So that's it and that's all.
- 23:06Remember, if you'd love to connect, you can call send me a
- 23:08text message or what's that message on 08064662140.
- 23:15And if you love this kind of content or more, you're in the
- 23:18right place because on this very feed that you're listening to,
- 23:21whether you're on WhatsApp or iTunes or Stitcher or whatever,
- 23:29right now you can only see 10 but or continue to scroll.
- 23:33Are you scrolling? Can you see it?
- 23:35Your eye is not deceiving you. There are over 1200 episodes on
- 23:39this very feed. Continue to scroll, keep
- 23:43listening, keep binging. Enjoy yourself and it's the
- 23:47reason why I give my contact detail at the end of every
- 23:49single episode, because I know you have one or two questions,
- 23:52you have one or two comments, you disagree with me on one or
- 23:55two things and you know I make mistakes, so you also try to
- 23:59educate me on a couple of things.
- 24:01Reach out, let's have a chat, it's no problem.
- 24:04But those of you who are reaching out, trying to collect
- 24:06money from me, can you stop this thing?
- 24:08Please do not be rude. I'm ready giving you free
- 24:10resources If you're not calling me because you have a question,
- 24:14a comment or your contribution or you want us to explore how we
- 24:17can work together. And if you're not calling me to
- 24:20pay tight to me, then instead you're calling to come and
- 24:23collect the small that I already have.
- 24:26Then if it's like that, I beg just lose my phone number.
- 24:28Let the people who have serious needs to talk about, let them
- 24:31call me. All right, so that's it.
- 24:32I'll catch you guys in the next episode.