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2025 CrossFit State of the Union | New CrossFit Buyer? · The Spin Podcast

• 0:32
  Welcome to the spin. If you guys were betting on if
• 0:36
  John has a shirt on or not, you'll have to wait till next
• 0:39
  week. He is not joining us this week.
• 0:42
  A little bit of eyeball something or something, I don't
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  know. I.
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  Conjunctivitis. Is that it?
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  I don't know. Either way, he can't stare at a
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  screen, so it's just you're stuck with the two of us.
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  But this actually might be a good one for John to sit out.
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  I mean, we're talking about we're talking about buyers,
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  we're talking about conspiracies, we're talking
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  about the state of the CrossFit union.
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  You know, I feel like he might stare at his phone a little bit
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  more than normal. There's no mountain to talk
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  about, so we'll do our best to. What's crazy is I didn't know
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  this news was coming. It's weird to me that it's on
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  Wednesday. It is randomly random, totally
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  random. Yeah.
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  I mean, I I will say though, I think Nilimo 22 is probably
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  right. He's probably wearing his wife
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  beater regardless of whether he's on the show or not.
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  It's probably pretty standard. Is John like a cartoon
• 1:44
  character? Like he has like 2 outfits
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  that's it. Yeah, he has 16 pairs of wife
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  beaters about it. We tried to get Souza.
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  So Souza missed my show with Sivan this afternoon.
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  Souza's been busy, I guess, you know, running that affiliate,
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  trying to get him on. And he was coaching so.
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  Got to be a working man's. Yeah, maybe he'll do another
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  show. Has he been doing?
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  He hasn't been doing shows lately, has he?
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  He's been. He's been busy.
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  Yeah, so maybe Susan will come in a few days from now and, and
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  fill us in on more of what he's been digging into.
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  But we'll we'll go over everything that broke today.
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  In case you missed the show, get Tyler's opinion on it and but.
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  First, got some wild opinions on this I.
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  Can't wait to hear it. But first it's fewer comments.
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  Got some good ones, maybe not a ton this last week but I think
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  they were all high quality. So here we go at Jason Zerba
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  8000. Maybe WFP or in his case WPF
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  becomes a feeder system for up and comers to grab some
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  spotlight and sponsor money as they push for a GameSpot like
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  Fuller. Older athletes aging out but
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  still want some love like Velner.
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  That's what it should have been from the beginning.
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  Start off small. Well, not even start out small,
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  just like I, I think I went over this in the show, like they
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  should have just had like a good cash pool where basically
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  everybody gets paid out and then all of the good athletes would
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  have come anyway. Like most of the good athletes
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  would come and then so it's like it would have gotten what you
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  wanted. Instead of a guaranteed
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  contract, you just have a prized purse of $250,000 and.
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  Where Hayley Adams never shows up.
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  Right. There's no change, no, no reason
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  to make money. I think now they can't go back,
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  right? So like that's the problem.
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  Like is it a good idea? Is there a, some type of benefit
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  where there was a feeder system, more competitions for those
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  semifinal athletes that want to get experience?
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  Probably it'd be good. But after you've had a
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  significant number of the best athletes out there, like if they
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  say no, you can't go back and be like, hey, I know we want to
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  take over the world, but hey, here's some semifinal athletes.
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  Enjoy. So good idea.
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  Just about a year too late. Jason Annie 5298 You guys always
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  do this, talking about you and John.
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  Save number one for last thinking it's the best and spin
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  always makes it the worst. Not always.
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  We've gotten surprised a few times where you definitely hit
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  one the like. The best one is last but.
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  Sometimes the best one is first, sometimes it's.
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  You never know. I would like to look at the
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  percent. I would bet it's under 40%.
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  The last one is the worst. I would say that's fair.
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  I try to, you know. I don't want to ask your
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  methodology of like how you make them when you make them.
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  When I started out I had some more methodology.
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  Now I don't think as much because it like more random.
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  If you guys think that I'm going to put a first or of last,
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  that's the final one, then you guys start saving stuff.
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  So no, it's a it's more random than normal.
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  There wasn't beginning at G Ball, ranking the arena when
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  you've never been there and clearly know nothing about it.
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  It's a fucking arena. But it's really nice, I've been
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  told. It's great.
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  I'm sure it's freaking amazing, but it's an arena, right?
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  That's. The point?
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  Yeah, a way more people watched it from home and can comment on
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  what they thought of the venue when you watched Madison versus
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  Albany. Albany.
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  All right. Like, I liked watching North
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  Park. I liked watching the the field
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  above it. Whatever I came up with that the
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  dog park was. I liked it.
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  I was. I liked the tennis stadium.
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  I could say it was great and I never was there.
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  Yeah. Tennis stadium is great.
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  It's hot as balls, but it's great.
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  I will say views are down. I was looking at some metrics
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  like from Austin to Scotland, views are down and it's like
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  that's probably obviously going to be the choice because it's
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  the time delay. But I I can't help but wonder if
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  like the set setting takes away from a few views, like some
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  percentage of views. I bet they sold more tickets in
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  Scotland. Probably.
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  But the views were significant, had to be significantly more
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  just being I, I, I imagine at the like seeing the analytics
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  would be really interesting on the back end of their live
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  stream. Like what percentage come from
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  different areas, what the viewership looks like days after
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  like or like, you know, even hours, right, like, right, are
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  people coming back and trying to watch or skip or, or what not?
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  That'll be interesting, had Elizabeth Dock.
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  Had two, had 21. I knew he did.
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  He wears them too often. I like that.
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  I like that, Siobhan. I like live and Scotland times
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  were brutal. Yeah, especially in California,
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  right. Like, I mean, you're on the East
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  Coast, so you weren't as bad as it was for me and John by an
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  hour even then we were. I mean, Sunday was brutal, but
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  nothing, nothing beats having to get up for the strong women.
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  That was that was early and terrible.
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  John Young, I have an accidental epithelial debridement of the
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  eye. I don't even know what that
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  means. I looked into it.
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  I was like who the even says that?
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  So it's like a removal of the cornea, but like how do you do
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  that on accident? I I although I will, I scratched
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  my cornea one time it working out of all things and it sucks.
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  And they have this, like they have this numbing gel they can
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  give to you and they'll, they'll keep that shit like like this
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  the whole time because they're like, like people steal it
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  because it works like immediately, like you're like, I
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  can't, your eye, it hurts terrible.
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  You can't open it. It feels like, it feels like the
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  worst sting of like a cut ever. And they put that shit on.
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  It goes away immediately. And you're like, I'm good.
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  Give me some of that. Yeah, it's crazy.
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  That's pink eye. I think it was like a week.
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  I walked around with a patch on my eye.
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  I would John, just get a patch. Dude, come on the show, just get
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  a patch. Just take the man to sleep mask
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  and leave one of the eye things on.
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  Captain Young. Yeah.
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  Elizabeth Dawkins. No.
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  Elizabeth Dawes. Kim.
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  Sorry. I've been living under a rock.
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  Why does everyone hate Brian Friend?
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  I don't know. No one hates him.
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  No, no one. I'm sure somebody does IKEA
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  that's. One thing like you're so far
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  behind it would be hard to catch you up now like I.
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  Think just if you, I think, I think just go back and watch
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  Hiller's. All of Hiller's.
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  An enemy video that gives you a pretty good looks like a 40
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  minute like deep dive, wasn't it?
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  Yes. And then we have an episode.
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  Which episode was it where I was just like I fucking went off?
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  I can't remember why. I can't remember which one.
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  I mean, we've had so many. It was when he was it when he
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  did water palooza or after he did water palooza?
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  Might have been after water, Palooza, Miami or.
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  He did or said something and I was like Nope, it's time to
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  address time to. Address Hey, go back and check
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  our show from late January this year at Kia.
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  Your poll doesn't make any sense.
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  You need to ask Hiller's audience, not yours.
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  And you should check his comments, not your chat.
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  It doesn't matter if your audience didn't like it, it
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  matters if Hiller's wants it back.
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  I think everybody said they wanted Hiller to do it, didn't
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  they? Yeah, in the comments it was
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  like all positive. But here's like, here's the
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  thing about comments. They're either all positive or
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  all negative. Like you have to be able to like
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  parse both and the views. Like really it comes down to
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  views, not only views like what your metrics look like.
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  If you probably like, have the highest views of any rogue
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  preview show. That's fair.
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  He also has the highest views show also true, but it's like if
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  your views, because it's like a view counts after like 30
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  seconds, right? If you're viewers fall off after
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  a minute and a half, it's like, well, you know.
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  Yeah, that's also true. So I'd be I'd be interested to
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  know that stuff. Yeah at just M going back to
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  WWFP. Honestly if this had been WFP
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  people would have been non-stop discussing the number of
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  injuries and the poor programming.
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  For the record, I enjoyed both competitions.
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  I know you'll say you did talk about it, but I think the
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  difference is it's the only thing you would talk about.
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  That's not true. Yeah, well, we wouldn't do you
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  have to take out like the fact that they did, we did, we did.
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  I wasn't really there, but they did the spin cast.
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  And it's like you just have to would have to look at spin for
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  it to be apples to apples. For Rogue, yeah.
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  Yeah. And so I don't think that's
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  fair. Was there?
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  There weren't a ton of injuries at Rogue, Yeah.
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  I mean, we got we got another torn Achilles.
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  Yeah, we had oldest, oldest in his calf.
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  And then Emma tall in her elbow, her shoulder.
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  So three. I mean it, it's it was
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  definitely a lot. I mean, I think there was talk,
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  especially on the spin cast of like, this is too much Is, is
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  Achilles a problem? I think Stephan's you should be
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  talked about it, Right. Like, yeah, Achilles injuries,
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  like now we've had three in two years.
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  Yeah. They're not.
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  That's. Not bad, Vicki.
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  Well, the spin audience is willing to pay to not have a
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  spin cast The world, yeah. There you go, Vicki.
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  Thanks for the backup on that. I do not recall World Fitness or
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  I mean Rogue Invitational saying on a on a hot mic to not show
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  somebody that busted their butt on a GHD hot mic.
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  That's so wild. Yeah, that was good.
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  I don't think it was a hot mic. I think it was just the person
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  standing next to the person. Like they don't even turn the
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  mics off. It was just right.
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  It was on. It was like we could hear it.
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  And finally, at Kyle Greenlee, don't forget to like and
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  subscribe. Thanks.
• 13:36
  Kyle yeah. So go like and subscribe and.
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  Hit that button. Yeah, do that.
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  All right. New buyers.
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  Nice. Finally.
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  God, you. You were waiting.
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  I know it, dude. Couldn't come soon enough, huh?
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  So I caught, I caught you. I was training while you were on
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  with Seven. I didn't know you were going on
• 13:58
  with Seven. Yeah.
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  It's I don't think, I can't remember the last time I've been
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  on Sivan's show. I was thinking about that too.
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  I was like dance. My schedule doesn't usually
• 14:07
  align with his and SO. I only caught like maybe the
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  back half and then I caught like the 1st 15% because I went back
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  and started from the beginning. But I also read the article.
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  I did my own research. One of the few compared to
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  social media that just commented.
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  Oh sorry, I didn't read the article.
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  That's good. I like that.
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  I really appreciate it. Like the freaking Z or P score
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  article. And it's like people are making
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  comments that are addressed in the freaking article.
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  Yeah. That's good.
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  Just. Freaking read it.
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  Right. No, it's good.
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  Read the article, did my own research on Wade and what's the
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  other guy's name? Mark Mastrov, Mark No.
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  No, I did my not mark the other guy the this the selling partner
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  or the the the the administrator of it all.
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  Oh, Matt Davis. Matt.
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  Yeah, his hybrid fitness media, Yeah.
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  Did my own research on that and just came to a few conclusions.
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  I'm I'm taking the Sousa approach to this.
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  I'm gonna Who does this benefit? Well, I feel, well, I feel like
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  we need to make sure everybody aware is aware of what actually
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  is going on. I, I, I do agree crossfat, I
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  liked when Sivan read the article to spin.
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  So Sivan went through the article.
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  I'm not going to read it to you, but I will.
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  Here we go. I'll kind of walk through what
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  transpired. So this all started today, this
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  morning when an article published by Hybrid Fitness
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  Media, the the author, the owner of it is called Matt Davis and
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  he published a article that basically let's see if it pulls
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  it up. Wade Deebner and Mark Mastroff
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  claim exclusive rights to negotiate the purchase of
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  CrossFit. And as you read it, I mean, the
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  very first photograph says that Mister Deebner said in an
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  interview. And so I have come to find out
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  that that is, you know, it wasn't that Matt was
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  transcribing a different interview.
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  It was Matt Davis. Excuse.
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  Me. You're stealing my job right
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  now. Matt Davis talked to Mr. Diebner
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  this part. 'S crazy.
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  I, I, I will come back to it, but it is wild to me that Matt
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  of all people got this interview first.
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  Yeah, So I don't, I, I don't know how Matt got wind of this
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  story. And I think this plays an
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  important role. And I I almost, I'm guaranteeing
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  that you have some opinion about this, but there was a post.
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  Yeah, my opinion is you should be ashamed of yourself.
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  You're the fastest and Matt beat.
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  I don't. I don't even know what to say
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  about that. On Monday, a new Reddit account,
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  Reddit account was created and I think that might be it.
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  I don't. I'm not on Reddit enough.
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  That's probably my first fault. Halo should have caught this.
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  Well, probably So this new account on Reddit and it was
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  called the user account was called World Fit News and it
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  made one post. It it it was created on the
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  10th. So on this day it was created.
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  It makes a post on its own little page.
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  It's not on like the CrossFit subreddit or anything.
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  And it's titled Rumors Ignite the fitness world legendary Mark
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  Mastrov and investor powerhouse Wade Diebner set to acquire
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  CrossFit with a a list celebrity firepower.
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  I'll let you guys read it. It's. 90, it's 95% likely that
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  it is AI written OK. And so that's weird.
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  Like what is going on? That well, how did someone say
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  it? It's all blowjobs right now.
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  Yeah, yeah. And so like, OK, this is really
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  odd. I'll read this article by by
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  Hybrid Fitness Media and in this article that Matt Davis has said
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  he talked to Mr. Deebner or somebody calling himself Mr.
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  Deebner. I don't know at this point
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  anymore. Some drunk guy.
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  Like this guy has money. I don't know, he so so.
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  Deebner told Davis on the Hyper Fitness Media that his group,
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  his buyer group, just entered into a 90 day exclusivity
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  agreement last week and that closing would be late January
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  2026. As part of that due diligence
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  exclusivity agreement, they now have access to financials and
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  whatever else they want to look at to make sure that CrossFit is
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  what they say they are, the monies where it's coming from
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  and as much as they say it is, and that Deebner is the only
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  group that is remaining with viable funding in an operating
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  plan. What's then also interesting is
• 19:28
  later on that the buyers apparently told Matt that they
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  are represented by this pooed guy.
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  Pooned guy represented by Houlihan Loki.
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  Houlihan. Yeah, Houlihan Loki, it's a
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  legit website. They do investment banking and
• 19:48
  you know, stuff for M&A. And then also in the Instagram
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  post, what basically that the Deebner and or this other guy
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  told him is that they believe that this news was leaked by
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  insiders within the company. I imagine that company is either
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  CrossFit or Berkshire, Sivan said.
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  Well, maybe even Molas, I guess. So I don't know if we want to
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  hit this yet because I'm about to go.
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  I want to go on a deep dive. Yeah, let.
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  Me, let me finish the let me walk through all of it.
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  All right, so I'm, I mean, I've known Matt Davis for years, like
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  9 years. He sticks to his OCR stuff in
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  hybrid and every once in a while he'll dabble in some CrossFit
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  stuff, especially because especially when Crossfitters do
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  high rocks, he'll he'll hit that because it does get some
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  attention. Finally.
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  Oh, there it is. We figured it's Vicki.
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  Yeah, yeah. The DABE.
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  And so I'm like, OK, I, I mean, I, I've known this guy for
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  years. I cannot imagine that he would
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  just make something up. Like he had to have talked to
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  this person and written it. So I started digging and I find
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  World Fit News has created an account on X.
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  For those of you living under a rock for the last two or three
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  years, It's now Twitter or was Twitter.
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  That account was created in November of 2025.
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  S also a new account and that account has had one thing had
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  one post sharing the link to the Reddit post.
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  Nobody did anything with it. There's no likes.
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  There's no comments except for one retweet from by the one
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  follower that that this account had, which was from the X Capsa
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  group. Well, the the founder of X Capsa
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  is Mr. Diebner. Interestingly enough, when in
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  the meantime of our show, that retweet from the X Capsa group
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  on X was deleted, no longer shared the tweet of World Fit
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  News talking about this article on Reddit.
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  There it is. OG version right here.
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  Is that the that's the sound one.
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  There you go, original. Yeah, unfortunately, I did not
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  grab a screenshot of that, but I did notice that there was no
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  more retweets of that original World Fit news tweet.
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  And then I went to his LinkedIn page this morning.
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  I wanted to find out a little bit about Wade and there it is.
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  He's talking about how he's, you know, hedge fund venture
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  investor X CAPSA. So that's where it gets weird.
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  Is like X CAPSA does nothing like CrossFit.
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  No, it's all like IT, real estate type stuff.
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  And, oddly enough, weed. Weed.
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  Oh yeah. They have one weed company.
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  The only interview that I could find from Wade was that like a a
• 23:29
  weed is not the right word use, but it was at a weed convention.
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  Like a a weed. Yeah, market convention.
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  So yeah, wait, maybe he was high.
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  Maybe he was high when he retweeted that.
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  And then I go through his posts and his page and lo and behold,
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  I did screenshot this. He shared the world fit news
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  tweet and linked to it and then said no comment.
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  Interesting. And so I kind of just kind of
• 24:07
  share some background of the other buyers, what we know going
• 24:10
  so far. Mark Mastroff, he was basically
• 24:15
  CEO, former CEO now of 24 Hour Fitness.
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  In 2010, he partnered with Madonna to create Hard Candy
• 24:24
  Fitness. I don't think that lasted very.
• 24:25
  Long I was like hard candy fitness and never once heard of
• 24:28
  that. Yeah, Madonna didn't push it
• 24:31
  hard enough. In 2013, Mastrop became a part
• 24:34
  owner in the Sacramento Kings, which I believe he still is.
• 24:37
  And in 2015, he founded an E sports company, NRGE Sports.
• 24:43
  And that's kind of where we're at.
• 24:47
  I mean, guy supposedly has 90 days to do his due diligence
• 24:52
  and. So.
• 24:53
  That's by it. In January, it's.
• 24:54
  Weird 1st and it gives a little credence to this whole thing of
• 24:58
  like he 100% signed an NDA, Diebner did the deed.
• 25:04
  Yes, yes, if this is legit, yes, if you do this, you are signing
• 25:08
  an NDA 100 just to get any preliminary information.
• 25:15
  You are signing an NDA in this in a deal of this magnitude.
• 25:19
  For sure in Matt's article I think I remember reading that
• 25:24
  they seem to think they were, that it was titled like they had
• 25:28
  exclusivity in this 90 day window.
• 25:30
  Yes, he said that he was. Let me see make sure it was.
• 25:37
  The group says it signed a 90 day exclusivity agreement last
• 25:42
  week, granting full access to financial records and barring
• 25:46
  other suitors. Yeah.
• 25:48
  And so that's where it starts to get fun, because I've heard from
• 25:54
  multiple different places that that is not, that exclusivity is
• 26:01
  not real. That's cool.
• 26:05
  This is where my brain starts rolling, right?
• 26:09
  So I I started thinking like Souza, like who does this
• 26:15
  benefit? It doesn't so that there's a
• 26:18
  term astroturfing and you're kind of hinting about it with
• 26:22
  Mullis, right, which is like you kind of propagandize everybody
• 26:26
  thinking like, OK, we we're going to put out feelers, which
• 26:29
  is what like the move Max thing was.
• 26:33
  Yeah, back in March or February. When?
• 26:36
  Yes, he was astroturfing and I think, I think Malik thought
• 26:40
  that the Move Max thing was going to motivate everybody and
• 26:44
  it fucking didn't. Well, he tried it twice, right,
• 26:46
  Like right. I mean, he had rich.
• 26:48
  He's going to mayhem. He's got Fekundo rolling him
• 26:51
  around doing interviews on coffee pods and wads like well
• 26:55
  everybody tied to B sport and Malik was on Pedro's show at
• 27:01
  some point over like 6 months ago.
• 27:03
  Yes, and I mean Dave saying I like Malik or something like
• 27:08
  that. That whole post like that was
• 27:12
  astroturfing. This is a lot more covert type
• 27:18
  of astroturf. Like you're going to create a
• 27:20
  fake profile, you're going to get a dude in the company to
• 27:23
  retweet it. You're going to take all that
• 27:25
  shit down. Mullis.
• 27:28
  If they did it that it gets into like fraudulent charges type of
• 27:35
  stuff like 'cause you're swaying like the opinion of the people.
• 27:39
  Like there's somebody else out there.
• 27:41
  Yes. And so yeah, you're, you could
• 27:45
  be altering the sale price by doing this.
• 27:47
  And so OK, I was like, why would they let this happen?
• 27:51
  Like this seems calculated. OK.
• 27:55
  So if Mullis does it, so for those who are not familiar,
• 27:58
  CrossFit hired Mullis to act as like the broker, the
• 28:01
  intermediary, the the surveyor of people groups that would
• 28:07
  potentially buy CrossFit, right. So that way, Berkshire's not
• 28:12
  having to deal with all of this. We'll go out and talk to all
• 28:15
  these people, you know, does all the heavy work, making sure that
• 28:19
  they're legit, all that stuff gets them to sign Ndas, brings
• 28:25
  potential offers to Berkshire. And so my question is, OK, so
• 28:33
  let's say, let's say it is Molas that that created this AI
• 28:38
  account or this AI article from this account is Mr. Deibner
• 28:44
  like? With Mullis.
• 28:47
  Or like, like why would you pull?
• 28:49
  Like if I'm Deibner, why would I be involved in this if it wasn't
• 28:53
  legit? That's the part that I can't
• 28:55
  figure out is so the only red handed person we have right now
• 29:00
  legitimately seems to be Deibner.
• 29:03
  Right. Because he repo.
• 29:05
  Unless he just was the dumbest dude ever and retweeted it.
• 29:10
  I'd hate to figure that out. Like I'd hate to be that dude
• 29:13
  and that'd be the real answer to what's going on.
• 29:15
  But this seems. Calculated they set him up and
• 29:18
  then he was just like yeah retweet, retweet no comment
• 29:21
  like. Or like, you know, the guy who
• 29:24
  was this account and he's like, hey, will you repost this and
• 29:27
  just say no comment? Yeah, but he got it and then
• 29:30
  just screwed it up. So anyway, this it doesn't
• 29:35
  benefit X CAPSA at all that this they're going to get like if
• 29:41
  they're in negotiation, they probably like messed up.
• 29:47
  Yeah, they they messed up and like probably could lose the
• 29:50
  purchase of the company Mullis. Like if they're courting other
• 29:54
  people, screws them over because they they need everybody to be
• 29:59
  in the dark that they have exclusivity, it's going to screw
• 30:02
  them over with X CAPSA and then everybody else who's in that 90
• 30:05
  day window is going to start freaking out.
• 30:08
  They're probably going to lose most of the sales because you're
• 30:10
  going to be an asshole who benefits from this.
• 30:16
  So based on. Well, let me stop you.
• 30:20
  I've been told by somebody who's has a connection to Berkshire
• 30:25
  that they have no idea what's going on, they don't know.
• 30:28
  Berkshire doesn't know anything. Right.
• 30:30
  They don't know anything about this Deebner, this group, this
• 30:33
  offer, this exclusivity. I've heard I've heard this too.
• 30:37
  I've heard this X CAPSA thing and Deebner is all a bunch of
• 30:41
  horseshit. So I've also heard it's real,
• 30:44
  but if it's real and it's if it's true that Berkshire does
• 30:47
  not know, Bolas is the one that would know.
• 30:55
  Right. But that's a conflict of
• 30:59
  interest on Mullis side because they have to act in the best and
• 31:03
  that they have fiduciary responsibility for Berkshire,
• 31:06
  right? Yeah, if you get an offer, you
• 31:08
  got to bring it to him, right? Even if it's terrible.
• 31:11
  And so OK, so you think your hot 1 is mullis is leaking this or
• 31:17
  or fabricating it? Maybe, I don't know.
• 31:20
  I mean, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a theory.
• 31:22
  If, if, if two things are true. This Diebner guy really has some
• 31:27
  type of understanding, agreement, belief that he has
• 31:31
  exclusivity, but Berkshire doesn't know about it.
• 31:36
  Oh, the so the exclusivity. Is the like so that that the
• 31:40
  only the middle person there is Mullis Moles doesn't get paid
• 31:45
  unless this thing closes. They've spent six No 8 months on
• 31:53
  this thing and have gotten $0.00.
• 31:57
  But then why would they do the article and why Deebner is still
• 32:03
  the the the mysterious piece of this?
• 32:06
  I don't know. This he's just an idiot.
• 32:08
  So far, he's just an idiot. I I have another.
• 32:12
  Theory. OK, I can't wait.
• 32:14
  I've heard that B Sport and Move Max are still in the are still
• 32:19
  on the swing of things. Yes, I thought they were going.
• 32:21
  I I've also heard that. OK.
• 32:25
  But I'm gonna, I'm gonna, let's pretend that they are still in
• 32:29
  the game. Ficundo, I don't know his
• 32:34
  relationship with them still, but I'm gonna assume that he's
• 32:37
  still on the team. Ficundo knows how to play
• 32:40
  people, man, and they're they're good at this media like they
• 32:45
  they do these sort of when I started seeing this, the words
• 32:49
  on that ChatGPT thing, I was like, this is very similar to
• 32:53
  like some of the shit that move Max was saying.
• 32:56
  Malik was saying some of that shit that was coming out.
• 32:58
  And then I was like, they played this like Smokey the smoke and
• 33:03
  mirrors media game. And I was like, what if they are
• 33:09
  the world fitness news people? They wrote that Diebner's
• 33:16
  somehow an idiot and still reposts it.
• 33:19
  Because in this situation they do benefit because X Caps is
• 33:26
  going to get in trouble. Moles is going to get in
• 33:28
  trouble. They're going to get kicked out
• 33:30
  of that. Wholesale.
• 33:32
  Leaving move Max right there, baby killed them.
• 33:37
  Buy a complete fabrication and they can just be like, oh, I had
• 33:40
  no idea because who knows who World fit news is and you'll
• 33:45
  never be able to track it. So I was like, it only benefits
• 33:49
  them because it gets X caps out of the way.
• 33:51
  I'm pretending that X caps is a real investor.
• 33:54
  Yeah. Like they're actually, they're
• 33:56
  actually trying to buy the company.
• 34:01
  I'm surprised that sabotage, I'm surprised that anybody would
• 34:04
  know who the other bidders are. Like most of the time you don't
• 34:10
  even know like, or you shouldn't know who you're bidding against,
• 34:16
  right? But I feel like that's not true.
• 34:19
  The other thing I do know is that the executive team is in
• 34:26
  California this week or in San Jose this week, supposedly just
• 34:29
  just at a site visit doing it for the for the games.
• 34:33
  That's exciting. But it's only 40 minutes away
• 34:41
  from X caps as HQ. Oh.
• 34:43
  Heck yeah. I did that little giggle today.
• 34:50
  What's also interesting is Mr. Diebner, he grew up in
• 34:54
  Livermore, CA. What if Sousa knows?
• 34:59
  He did. Yeah.
• 35:01
  What if Sousa I think. Sousa knows him that.
• 35:03
  'D be cool. That'll be really.
• 35:05
  That'll be really quite the twist.
• 35:06
  Maybe. Maybe that's why Souza was busy
• 35:10
  coaching tonight. He couldn't talk about it.
• 35:14
  He has been quiet here recently and all of a sudden.
• 35:17
  All of a sudden, yeah, he does all those shows about the sale
• 35:20
  of CrossFit, and then he's absent when all this comes out.
• 35:23
  There's also the fact that that I'm pretty sure Greg is buying
• 35:28
  it and this is all just a bunch of bullshit.
• 35:30
  I mean, that's what you posted a week ago that seemed legit.
• 35:34
  It. So.
• 35:37
  This is all fun for me. I, I mean, a lot of the people I
• 35:42
  saw in the comments were like, tell me, is this good news or
• 35:46
  bad news? Tell me what I should tell me
• 35:48
  what I should think, tell. Me what to do?
• 35:51
  I I don't know. I wanted to act like Deepener.
• 35:53
  I went into it being like OK, be be unbiased.
• 35:56
  Is deepener good? He likes PBD, Patrick, Bette,
• 36:01
  David. He seems to be, I mean not super
• 36:05
  fit, but decently fit for somebody who's probably in their
• 36:08
  early, late late 40s, early 50's.
• 36:11
  The the, the X caps a connections that I can't make
• 36:16
  heads or tails. Like.
• 36:17
  What would you even do with CrossFit besides pump and dump?
• 36:23
  Yeah. I mean, he if he's if he's
• 36:25
  investing, I mean there's multiple things like he may be
• 36:30
  more of a monetary source, like helping find other people to
• 36:34
  invest, right, to gather funds, kind of like what Rosa did,
• 36:37
  right? Like Rosa went and found
• 36:38
  investors and then you found Berkshire to come in with the
• 36:41
  big the big check. He might be that guy, right?
• 36:46
  Like he might be the one that has connections to high net
• 36:49
  worth individuals or others who may want to, you know, Co invest
• 36:53
  with this Sacramento Kings guy who obviously has plenty of
• 36:59
  money. So that's, that's the place that
• 37:02
  I couldn't get to just because of the time like this popped up
• 37:06
  on our radar. Radar like after two.
• 37:09
  Yeah, it was fast. And then Deebner is private on
• 37:15
  Instagram. Not, not, not if you follow him.
• 37:18
  I'm in. You're in, I'm in.
• 37:20
  I couldn't check his connections.
• 37:23
  He let me see I have it here. I'm wondering if he isn't
• 37:28
  connected. So you like you were saying with
• 37:31
  the he's just venture capital guy, he's going to get it be
• 37:35
  smaller investors to puddle into one big one.
• 37:38
  I'm worried that he might be with the O'Keefe group.
• 37:41
  He he follows. O'Keefe.
• 37:48
  He follows me, you follow me back.
• 37:50
  Fit like Africa. I am sure you followed him.
• 37:53
  Jake Chapman is now a follow back.
• 37:58
  Jake Chapman. Jake Chapman is now followed by
• 38:00
  this Deepner dude dense updates, CrossFit games, hybrid fitness
• 38:05
  media, so he follows him Rich Froning, Fabio de Souza.
• 38:11
  He's the the Brazilian dude that does like stuff around there.
• 38:17
  CrossFit CrossFit affiliates Rogue Fitness Live Momentous
• 38:20
  Carnivore Snacks, Allison Scuds, Lucas Hogberg, Hugo Cross Reebok
• 38:27
  Wall Street weightlifter. That is it.
• 38:31
  There it is. And then then 4500 other people
• 38:34
  that have nothing to do with CrossFit.
• 38:35
  Wait time out OK 4500 people that have nothing to do with.
• 38:38
  CrossFit, CrossFit, Pleasanton, Diablo CrossFit.
• 38:45
  There's a few others. OK, all right, so Nah O'Keefe
• 38:52
  and those guys. Let's see.
• 38:57
  Let me see. I don't he's followed.
• 38:58
  By Reebok. He follows Reebok.
• 39:01
  He follows Reebok. OK.
• 39:03
  That was like. That's he follows James O'Keefe
• 39:05
  this. Is positive.
• 39:09
  He does. He's not a O'Keefe does not
• 39:11
  follow him. OK, what about coop?
• 39:15
  I don't. Think so.
• 39:21
  OK. So that rules those guys out.
• 39:23
  So it's not those guys. That's what I'm worried about.
• 39:26
  It would also be like Red Bull or something like that.
• 39:29
  So he's good. Or at least he's.
• 39:32
  Not no HWPO, no none of the training camps I.
• 39:35
  Bet his follow request went nuts today.
• 39:38
  I mean, I followed him within minutes reading that article.
• 39:40
  He didn't fall, he didn't, he didn't accept yours.
• 39:42
  He accepted mine. But then I I asked him to the
• 39:46
  chat, get some information just to, you know, little chat.
• 39:49
  He said yeah, he played dumb. Like regarding what?
• 39:54
  Like the sale of the purchase? He has not read it yet.
• 40:01
  He. So either either it's gotten
• 40:03
  buried and he or he saw that like, you know, like little
• 40:07
  preview of it. It was like, I'm not talking to
• 40:09
  this dude. Yeah, he's panicking.
• 40:18
  Probably. I don't know what to make of it.
• 40:23
  The PBD connection actually makes me happy.
• 40:28
  On on Instagram he had MAGA. What's crazy is OK his LinkedIn.
• 40:35
  You click. Oh, I never got to that.
• 40:37
  You so you click on the LinkedIn like read more and it takes you
• 40:39
  to like a different bio and it's talking about all kinds of like
• 40:43
  Christian stuff and family. And then at the very end it's
• 40:45
  like MAGA. That Reddit article talks about
• 40:51
  make America half healthy again. I'm like, did he write this?
• 40:58
  So what? Or did it or did it pull from
• 41:00
  like his LinkedIn to say like, oh, it's health conscious, he's
• 41:05
  smack us, so we're going to include that because we're AII
• 41:08
  don't know. I I had wondered that because I
• 41:11
  was like when I when I was like, OK, AI wrote this, I was like,
• 41:16
  it's just going to include, I mean, it did include buzzwords,
• 41:19
  but if you want it to go viral, like you're going to say, Maha,
• 41:23
  that's the first thing you're going to do.
• 41:24
  If it's in the health face about this point, maybe if Rich is
• 41:28
  back. So in that in Matt's article it
• 41:33
  I can't remember what turn phrase was, but that Berkshire
• 41:36
  went out to. Yeah, I reported that last
• 41:40
  month, Yeah. Right.
• 41:41
  But we had not heard, I think Dave or Deebner says, wait,
• 41:47
  Deebner says that. Oh, Fronting's group lacks
• 41:51
  sufficient capital and is no longer in contention.
• 41:53
  This is the first we've heard that Froning has had a group
• 42:00
  publicly. Yeah.
• 42:04
  That that was not like, that's a new bit of information.
• 42:07
  We thought he was with Malik or whatever.
• 42:09
  Yeah. And so, yeah.
• 42:11
  Do you think he's conflating the two or did Rich have a different
• 42:14
  group? I don't know that'll be that'll
• 42:19
  be news. Maybe senior will post a comment
• 42:22
  on our I'm so von you get loose. With the get loose with the the
• 42:28
  keys there, bud. Yeah, I either Dee is
• 42:34
  conflating. I'm never caught.
• 42:36
  If he buys CrossFit, I'm still calling him Dee.
• 42:41
  I think that's referring to Mel. It could be, but it could also
• 42:45
  at the point when Berkshire went out there that was dead that
• 42:50
  that relationship. At least we thought it was.
• 42:52
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 42:53
  At least publicly it was. I'm pretty sure that that
• 42:57
  relationship was dead. I mean, Malik seems to see still
• 43:00
  be on the team so who knows, maybe everything's covert right
• 43:04
  now. Maybe.
• 43:07
  But I'd be interested if it was someone else, like he was trying
• 43:10
  to buy it with other people. Somebody else could have
• 43:13
  approached him. So.
• 43:14
  Anyways, could have approached him, who knows?
• 43:17
  So that's it. I don't know where we go from
• 43:20
  here from a standpoint of maybe this is legit, maybe it's not,
• 43:26
  maybe somebody's I don't. Sabotage, dude.
• 43:30
  It's fun. It's fun to talk about.
• 43:32
  It's Hunter McIntyre just writing articles the screw with
• 43:34
  the CrossFit community. That would actually be very on
• 43:37
  on par for. That would be amazing.
• 43:39
  That would be amazing. Yeah.
• 43:43
  Cripping it real. Do double Chad please.
• 43:48
  Please, I'm not doing single Chad.
• 43:50
  Keeping it real, saving money. He's not throwing money out
• 43:53
  there for John to do a capital of some random country.
• 43:56
  So I guess we'll have to survive.
• 44:01
  All right, CrossFit, State of the Union, State of the CrossFit
• 44:05
  Union. That was kind of, we talked
• 44:08
  about this was our topic this morning.
• 44:11
  Like we talked about it last year.
• 44:14
  We were like, let's talk about the sale and where things are.
• 44:18
  We'll talk about the affiliates, we'll talk about the Games and
• 44:21
  what all that, where that all kind of stands.
• 44:24
  And lo and behold, this pops up. So the CrossFit State of the
• 44:32
  Union last year, we had some doubts.
• 44:36
  How do you want to separate this?
• 44:39
  Do you want to do like affiliates, sport?
• 44:42
  Yeah. Other stuff?
• 44:44
  Yeah. You want to start with
• 44:45
  affiliates. Yeah.
• 44:47
  How do we think the affiliates are doing?
• 44:50
  Affiliates. Do we have any affiliate owners
• 44:52
  out there? Susa's coaching.
• 44:55
  Oh, that reminds me, I need to you guys want to do call in,
• 44:59
  Call in. We need a State of the Union, we
• 45:01
  need to hear from the people. We have our opinions, but like
• 45:06
  you said, we didn't go to the fucking arena so we can't talk
• 45:09
  about it. So why don't you?
• 45:11
  And we're not affiliate owner, so we can't talk about it,
• 45:14
  right. I think that's kind of what
• 45:16
  we've been told. Good ones.
• 45:18
  Good ones are great. Yeah, Winners win.
• 45:23
  All right, let's see. There it is if you want to call
• 45:27
  in. What is this we got to start
• 45:30
  with state of the Union on the affiliates.
• 45:34
  How are signups? How are you know how does your
• 45:39
  affiliate how's it going that's. True Joe B499 donation for the
• 45:43
  next challenge of Tyler beating John in a 5K.
• 45:48
  Thank you trash pandas for life. We got to run a 5K, there's no
• 45:52
  good way to stream that. Let's see.
• 45:58
  Oh, do we get a caller? No.
• 46:00
  Oh, nobody's calling. Anyway, so affiliates.
• 46:09
  I've since moved affiliates. Yeah, you're moved to
• 46:14
  Pennsylvania. Yeah.
• 46:15
  You like it? Yeah, our, our affiliates, kind
• 46:20
  of strange, it's a little different.
• 46:21
  We got a mix of hodgepodge everything.
• 46:24
  The, the CrossFit body of people is lower.
• 46:33
  It's not the focus of the whole gym, right.
• 46:35
  And so it's, it's lower. I, it's not a good, what I'm
• 46:38
  saying is this is not a good temperature taker for the, the
• 46:41
  community as a whole. The CrossFit club, the Penn
• 46:45
  State CrossFit club seems to be alive and well and has a ton of
• 46:48
  people. I think there's like almost 100
• 46:51
  people in that club, self run club by the students.
• 46:53
  So that's good. So yeah, like the vibes here are
• 46:59
  pretty good. Talk to my previous affiliate
• 47:01
  owner, the gym that we left in Bloomington, his stuff's good,
• 47:05
  continuing to climb, continuing to recover from COVID, so that's
• 47:09
  good. But my view on the ecosystem as
• 47:11
  a whole, it's like a conoho home right now.
• 47:16
  No real news. I.
• 47:18
  Mean obviously Rich and Mayhem and Mayhem, Project Mayhem and
• 47:23
  Malleolo does that. Do you think that's impacted
• 47:31
  anything from a affiliate standpoint on what they think
• 47:35
  about being affiliated, what their future is with CrossFit,
• 47:43
  or do we need to see something from Project Mayhem first?
• 47:45
  Yeah, it's like we, we still don't know what Project Mayhem
• 47:48
  is. Like if they said what it is.
• 47:52
  Not explicitly, unless I've missed it.
• 47:57
  They're sharing stuff. Sharing, sharing.
• 48:00
  Sharing learnings. That's what we do here on The
• 48:02
  Spin. We share, we learn every single
• 48:04
  week. Exactly I I I don't think it's
• 48:10
  going to do anything now what it could mean in the future.
• 48:13
  So let's play this out a year. Let's pretend X capsa buys
• 48:18
  CrossFit or Malik buys CrossFit or some unknown from the forest
• 48:23
  buys CrossFit, the forest, the forest or Greg buys it back.
• 48:31
  That could change it a lot. I mean, I still, I still am out
• 48:35
  there and I'm like, they have CrossFit has a big deal on their
• 48:41
  hands if they sell to somebody that Rich doesn't like.
• 48:43
  Do you think, do you think all of that talk has scared people
• 48:46
  away, that maybe him saying Project Mayhem and doing all of
• 48:54
  this hiring away Malliolo, it makes it so that Diebner is the
• 49:00
  only group that's still around. Everybody else has said yeah.
• 49:10
  I no, OK, no, because I think that Berkshire went out there to
• 49:20
  get some sort of reassurance. I don't think it was probably
• 49:23
  found. If they lost one, I would be
• 49:28
  surprised. It makes sense to lose 1, but I
• 49:33
  would kind of, if I were investing in it, I'd make, I'd
• 49:41
  make Rich hold his feet to the fire.
• 49:43
  Like, let's see what you're going to do then.
• 49:47
  Would you test him? Well, I, I think, I think by
• 49:54
  doing the semifinal, doing the, the Mayhem Classic again, buy
• 50:02
  some time if you are a buyer, if you do buy in the next 90 days,
• 50:09
  right? Because he's not going to de
• 50:11
  affiliate, he's not going to walk away before April.
• 50:15
  That gives you time to at least meet with them, talk with them,
• 50:18
  explain your vision, hear what he wants and try to do something
• 50:25
  now. It would give you some concern
• 50:27
  if those things go sideways or you have, you know, I think you
• 50:29
  should talk to him before you start.
• 50:34
  But I'm really like, I'm really curious like, does any of all of
• 50:40
  this, like we're talking about it, we're covering it, but does
• 50:45
  this get to somebody who's thinking about opening up a
• 50:47
  CrossFit affiliate? I I think about that all the
• 50:50
  time because like some of the shit that CrossFit does, I'm
• 50:54
  like, do you not watch any of the shows?
• 50:55
  Like, did you not know that this was the wrong move?
• 50:58
  This was so obvious to not do and you guys did it anyway.
• 51:01
  Or like the fact that like Don had not talked.
• 51:07
  To to rich. To rich, I'm like, do you not
• 51:09
  fucking pay any attention? Are you just like you're so
• 51:12
  lost? Well, I mean, I mean, there's so
• 51:15
  many members that at gyms that don't know, don't follow
• 51:20
  anything outside, right? They just have their gym or
• 51:23
  they, they go to their level 1. They don't follow any of this.
• 51:25
  They just, they like CrossFit, they want to sign up.
• 51:30
  Does does any of this stuff hit their radar?
• 51:32
  Like are they still growing? I just, I feel like if they've
• 51:35
  paid attention they might have some hesitancy at the current
• 51:39
  moment on pulling that trigger. Right.
• 51:44
  Yeah, I read Chris Cooper's or it kind of went through some of
• 51:48
  the bullet points of Chris Cooper's State of the Union.
• 51:52
  Seems like things are good. I think you know some of the
• 51:55
  revenue increase from for gyms is just due to inflation.
• 52:02
  Just raising prices. It would be about half, yeah, it
• 52:05
  would be about half the revenue, yeah, increase.
• 52:10
  The other half, I can't, I can't honestly say like are they just
• 52:13
  getting better? Could, could be is it's not.
• 52:17
  It's not a big percentage change adjusted for inflation.
• 52:21
  Yeah. Do you think is HQ doing
• 52:28
  anything to help grow the affiliates at the moment?
• 52:32
  This is why I wish an affiliate owner would call in,
• 52:35
  particularly one who uses like the quote UN quote toolkit.
• 52:38
  We the affiliate owner toolkit, we hear all the time about.
• 52:42
  I've heard from affiliate owners that they do not give a shit
• 52:45
  about what's in the toolkit. These are also affiliate owners
• 52:47
  who have owned gyms for a long time, have solutions to things.
• 52:50
  I think they're making a lot of tools for new affiliate owners,
• 52:53
  which is great. Does nothing for your 14 year
• 52:57
  affiliate owner if you know, if they're around and they're still
• 53:00
  making money and they're happy. And so, yeah, I, I don't know,
• 53:06
  like how much value they're providing, but again, how much
• 53:10
  value does CrossFit really need to provide other than a brand
• 53:13
  name that people want to get behind?
• 53:20
  That's fair. But I think it's also why some
• 53:22
  are looking around right now going what, what do I get out of
• 53:27
  this? And it may not be the right way
• 53:28
  of thinking about it, but $4500 a year?
• 53:35
  Yeah. You know, like it might.
• 53:37
  It might. What am I gaining out of this?
• 53:43
  Yeah, I don't, I don't know. What about the games?
• 53:47
  Games. Good.
• 53:51
  You happy with what direction where it's going?
• 53:53
  The spirit was there. I can't.
• 53:57
  Why was the Spirit there this year?
• 54:03
  The community that stayed there, I think I call, I think I
• 54:05
  predicted this. The community that was there
• 54:07
  might be smaller, but they're going to be more enthusiastic to
• 54:09
  keep it together. I just can't.
• 54:14
  I can't define what everybody's like.
• 54:16
  CrossFit Games are back. No one died.
• 54:22
  No one died. We're back baby documentaries.
• 54:29
  Almost done. No, don't, don't, don't hold
• 54:33
  your breath. Anyway, yeah, I.
• 54:38
  I mean behind the scenes is out faster.
• 54:39
  Yeah, behind the scenes is out way faster.
• 54:42
  I can't figure out why people are saying that.
• 54:44
  I asked Hillary that a couple days ago is like, why is that
• 54:47
  the narrative? And he's like, it's back, 'cause
• 54:49
  people in our group have said that.
• 54:51
  And I was like. Yeah, I mean, I think, I think
• 54:59
  there are a lot of questions going into the games as to would
• 55:06
  it be supported, Would people watch?
• 55:08
  Would people care? Will we miss those athletes who
• 55:13
  boycotted it? And I think the answer was, yes,
• 55:19
  they care. Yes, people support it.
• 55:22
  No, they don't care that certain people weren't there, right.
• 55:27
  And they pulled off a season that was successful, got the
• 55:33
  right people there. I think the the two fittest on
• 55:37
  earth, Hopper and Tia, well deserved, right people who
• 55:43
  earned it. And I think for the first time,
• 55:48
  it's like, or for the first time in a while, like, OK, they've
• 55:51
  got an idea of how they want to move forward.
• 55:55
  And it was good. Like there was nothing wrong
• 55:59
  with the Games. Patrick Clark 49 Thank you.
• 56:06
  I think the question is, would any of you invest in CrossFit I?
• 56:12
  Think you're going to get a different answer for from
• 56:15
  everyone. Like depending on where they are
• 56:18
  in life and what they want. I I would say I'm not investing
• 56:23
  until I know who the new owner is.
• 56:25
  Well, it depends on who Would any of you like is Patrick's
• 56:29
  question, if I'm deep, if I'm the Deebs, would I invest or
• 56:37
  would I be 1 of 10,000 people to throw in some money and invest
• 56:42
  in the forest with Frank? Those are two different
• 56:48
  questions, right? Like throwing millions of
• 56:51
  dollars and signing your name to whatever loan debt you have to
• 56:54
  do. Asking the two of us, would I
• 57:00
  invest in it? We're invested.
• 57:01
  Buddy, you're looking at the investment.
• 57:04
  That's the investment. Do I want to own CrossFit?
• 57:08
  I don't think so. Would I want to own a gym?
• 57:11
  I I think about this a lot, I really do.
• 57:15
  It's 20 minutes to the nearest CrossFit gym, which turns into
• 57:19
  40 on the way back. That's 40 minutes out of my day,
• 57:22
  whereas there's not one in my town get my town support one.
• 57:27
  What I want to do it I I go back and forth on like what I want to
• 57:30
  do it for me sometimes yes. I don't give a whole lot of
• 57:37
  thought to what's HQ doing in that situation.
• 57:40
  You know, I think if I was going to affiliate like that forty
• 57:43
  $4500 question would come up and I'd be like is it is it worth
• 57:46
  it? I think for the first year,
• 57:48
  yeah, for sure to see do do I get traction from being involved
• 57:53
  in HQ, you know, are these affiliate tools good?
• 57:58
  But after that I would reassess and especially like after the
• 58:02
  sale, I want to know who's going to buy.
• 58:05
  If I'm sitting on the fence and I'm not me, I'm thinking who's
• 58:08
  going to buy it because that dictates the future.
• 58:12
  Yeah, I think, I think the answer to directly answer
• 58:16
  Patrick's question, I would not want to own a gym in general.
• 58:23
  That's not what it sounds great until you, I think you get into
• 58:27
  it and then realize it's a lot of work for what you get out of
• 58:32
  it. And I think people that do it
• 58:36
  are great. But I don't think that's
• 58:38
  something that I would want to do is be an affiliate owner or a
• 58:41
  gym owner of whatever. Like whether you put CrossFit on
• 58:47
  it or not, I don't think I'd want to have that as my
• 58:50
  profession, right? So now if I was interested in
• 58:58
  doing that, I think I have your opinion where I don't.
• 59:01
  Knowing what I know as we follow all of this stuff, I'm not sure
• 59:05
  that would be the place I wanted to do to invest right now.
• 59:10
  I'd want some more clarity before I do it.
• 59:12
  If I take, if I take the affiliate toolkit, if I take
• 59:16
  the, the $4500 out of it and I just go at it from like a heart
• 59:21
  sort of level, the the fill HQ is not, is not trying to conquer
• 59:30
  anything right now. Like the whole mystique of the
• 59:34
  early days was that you were part of this, this global
• 59:37
  mission to like solve the health problems.
• 59:40
  And that doesn't feel like what we're doing right now.
• 59:43
  Like it just feels like we're just trying to swim or, or
• 59:46
  survive. And like, no, I want to be.
• 59:50
  I want to be, you know, I want to be.
• 59:54
  Making it on the forefront. And that's like, that's the
• 59:56
  whole thing with the community care.
• 59:58
  Yeah. Like, that's a, a, a, a fight
• 1:00:01
  worth fighting for me. And it's like, if I see more
• 1:00:04
  involvement with the community care and the CrossFit Medical
• 1:00:07
  Society, I'm probably going to jump on ship really fast.
• 1:00:11
  But they got to start putting some more propaganda out there.
• 1:00:14
  And it's crazy because like, I've been in CrossFit since
• 1:00:18
  2012. You've been in it since.
• 1:00:25
  I started in 2011, January 2011, yeah.
• 1:00:31
  So we're both like and we're, we're saying, I don't know, like
• 1:00:36
  if I was advising somebody. Yeah, if it was by calling to
• 1:00:39
  own a gym, I would do it because almost like what Rich did for,
• 1:00:47
  right, Like you have that affiliation to CrossFit.
• 1:00:49
  But if I'm a new person has like just found CrossFit six months
• 1:00:53
  ago and got into it and learned everything about going on in
• 1:00:56
  this arena, I don't know if I could do that at that point.
• 1:01:04
  So that would be that's my answer.
• 1:01:05
  PC Lee Frazier, let's see, where is it?
• 1:01:12
  Here it is 999. Nope.
• 1:01:13
  Bring Rich on board. Rich plus Dave plus the spin
• 1:01:17
  equals CrossFit for some of us. I don't think we are the
• 1:01:21
  minority. I appreciate TDC and Mayhem and
• 1:01:23
  the spin. That's CrossFit to me.
• 1:01:27
  Thanks for the comment on Dave's week in review, by the way, Lee.
• 1:01:32
  I missed it. She she was like, she said
• 1:01:35
  something about, I think she appreciated the spin.
• 1:01:37
  And then Savon brought it up and he was like, wait, the spin
• 1:01:40
  needs to run, you know, So say it was funny.
• 1:01:44
  Thank you. Thank you.
• 1:01:47
  No, I going back to the games, I think.
• 1:01:51
  Oh yeah, we see. We we worked off the games.
• 1:01:54
  I mean, I think the games are it went in the right direction
• 1:01:59
  because it could have gone one of two ways.
• 1:02:00
  It had gone really badly where nobody signed up, nobody
• 1:02:04
  supported it. I don't, I don't think the lack
• 1:02:07
  of attendance in in Albany was lack of support for the Games or
• 1:02:13
  CrossFit. It was a lack of.
• 1:02:15
  Support for. Albany and I'm really curious to
• 1:02:21
  see how San Jose will do, but I think I like the season format.
• 1:02:30
  I mean, I think it's a little bit closer to what regionals
• 1:02:33
  were. And I think going into next
• 1:02:34
  year, what they've done and outlined, if it's sustainable,
• 1:02:40
  if they can make it work and it doesn't turn into a complete
• 1:02:44
  disaster for athletes, right, trying to navigate the season
• 1:02:51
  and making sure they can qualify.
• 1:02:53
  And there, you know, we see those big names qualify.
• 1:02:56
  And again, we didn't, we weren't sure how it was going to work
• 1:02:58
  last year and it all worked out. I think we'll see the same.
• 1:03:04
  It's a pretty cool. I mean, we have three months of
• 1:03:07
  straight every weekend there's something going on.
• 1:03:10
  So if you really like the sport side of it, you have it right.
• 1:03:14
  They've announced things earlier, they've partnered with
• 1:03:16
  more groups you they've they've worked with people like Hopper
• 1:03:21
  and Sprague and Dallin and doing different things, which I think
• 1:03:25
  is great. So from the from that side of
• 1:03:31
  the game side, I think it's improving, it's getting better.
• 1:03:36
  The question is, is that on their own accord or is it pushed
• 1:03:39
  by World Fitness Project being considered a threat?
• 1:03:45
  Which is like the thing that we kind of brought up when WFP
• 1:03:48
  started was like HQ will be forced to get on their game a
• 1:03:53
  little bit because they have a competitor in the in the sphere.
• 1:03:58
  So I I'd agree that like that stuff, they're working with
• 1:04:05
  people like us, like they're letting us in doing things.
• 1:04:08
  Partner with eat one for the games they let Sev on in.
• 1:04:12
  And did you know the stream from the?
• 1:04:15
  The floor. The floor that that's cool
• 1:04:17
  stuff. And then they're partnering, you
• 1:04:18
  know, they're doing stuff with the athletes which we haven't
• 1:04:20
  seen in a while. I think there's still work to
• 1:04:26
  do, but it is a good start so. Published news on Wednesdays.
• 1:04:30
  Which is why I'd like open will be up 20% this year.
• 1:04:37
  I don't know if I like this number, but I'm not, I'm not
• 1:04:39
  averse to it. I just can't figure out like it
• 1:04:44
  doesn't feel like we're going to go up by 20%.
• 1:04:46
  I would say like my guts like 8 to 10.
• 1:04:50
  Yeah. I think that, I think that's the
• 1:04:51
  question is like does it bounce back, right?
• 1:04:55
  Did we start a new baseline and we can we start going, you know,
• 1:04:58
  we grow and the people that did it more people do it in the
• 1:05:02
  affiliate, but did what did those gyms that said we're not
• 1:05:08
  participating in it this year, will they come back that that's
• 1:05:12
  the big question in 26. I don't think they have to to be
• 1:05:16
  considered successful and continue to grow from where we
• 1:05:18
  where we are right now. But that's the question.
• 1:05:23
  I don't think you get to 20% of those groups don't come back.
• 1:05:27
  Right. We don't know if Pat, it sounds
• 1:05:30
  like Pat might come back. John's convinced Pat comes back.
• 1:05:33
  It doesn't it doesn't sound like Lucas coming back.
• 1:05:36
  We have no idea. We don't know about Laura.
• 1:05:44
  So I mean, you know, I, I think CrossFit has done the right
• 1:05:51
  things when it comes to the Games so far in the last. 11
• 1:05:59
  months, right? It's been now it's been my
• 1:06:02
  frustration with them is like there was all this talk of like
• 1:06:05
  we focus on the game so much. We focus on the games.
• 1:06:08
  They are focusing on the affiliates.
• 1:06:10
  They did that. They're doing that whole like
• 1:06:12
  you can use their footage to make your own commercial, like
• 1:06:15
  you can add on. Yeah, I don't.
• 1:06:17
  I didn't like that. I don't.
• 1:06:19
  Either, but they're trying to do some stuff for the affiliates,
• 1:06:22
  marketing for the affiliates. I don't really like their new
• 1:06:27
  This is Elite fitness push. That was that really.
• 1:06:30
  Bad. The whole commercial thing
• 1:06:31
  reminded me of The Office where they came in with the commercial
• 1:06:34
  and they're like, all right, we're going to make this
• 1:06:37
  commercial. And Michael Scott tries to make
• 1:06:39
  the commercial and they're like, actually here's what it is and
• 1:06:41
  it's stock footage. And then they just wave at the
• 1:06:43
  end and it's like, here's stock footage of not your gym doing
• 1:06:47
  CrossFit stuff and then here's your logo.
• 1:06:50
  That's what this is. And then people walk into your
• 1:06:52
  gym and they're like this. That wasn't what it looked like.
• 1:06:56
  You don't have sleds. Similar, it's kind of similar to
• 1:07:00
  like, do you remember it was like on everybody's page back in
• 1:07:04
  the day, like their, their, their website, Like you would
• 1:07:08
  scroll to the OR scroll to the middle and be like, what is
• 1:07:11
  CrossFit, you know, and everybody had that video on
• 1:07:15
  their page. It's kind of like that, but not
• 1:07:17
  as useful. Right.
• 1:07:22
  Yeah, I still misstheold.com website, but that's just me.
• 1:07:27
  Now, what do you think of does Speaking of State of the Union,
• 1:07:30
  what do you think about the new 80,000 wads on your profile page
• 1:07:37
  on? It's actually 225.
• 1:07:43
  I don't know what the the rationale is behind that.
• 1:07:47
  Like we couldn't get people to. So if you've missed out, you can
• 1:07:53
  now go to your competition page on crossfitgames.crossfit.com or
• 1:07:57
  on the app and there are there's a list of like benchmark
• 1:08:01
  workouts that you've done and it's crazy how many workouts are
• 1:08:08
  on that page. I did a video.
• 1:08:12
  Yeah, if you missed that video. It's hilarious.
• 1:08:18
  There it is. Yeah, this is it.
• 1:08:24
  If you go to your games profile page and start scrolling, you'll
• 1:08:29
  keep scrolling for a while. Every section is 75.
• 1:08:32
  I counted them and there's three sections of 75.
• 1:08:36
  Exactly 75. That's 220.
• 1:08:44
  Five. Yeah.
• 1:08:45
  What's your What's your Sisson time?
• 1:08:48
  TUP. I've never even heard of TUP.
• 1:08:52
  You should get on it. Bell, Bert.
• 1:08:57
  Bert's a workout. Heck, yeah.
• 1:08:59
  Dork. Dork.
• 1:09:02
  There's a dork on there. Klepto Lynn.
• 1:09:09
  This is a good one. Yeah.
• 1:09:11
  Renee, I I want somebody to tell me what Renee's workout is.
• 1:09:15
  Small smells, Schmales. Oh man, this it's, it's crazy.
• 1:09:22
  I I have Adm I might get a chat tomorrow with the Deebs.
• 1:09:28
  Stay tuned, he replied. So he replied to me, the Deebs
• 1:09:33
  replied Deebs. Yeah, he's been busy today, but.
• 1:09:38
  Maybe he's a good dude. Yeah, there we.
• 1:09:40
  Go Yeah, I want to make good deebs Longfellow.
• 1:09:44
  Deebs, I have nothing bad to say about the guy.
• 1:09:46
  I just want to know more about what's going on.
• 1:09:48
  So yeah, I don't know what what's going on with all of
• 1:09:50
  those. I mean, we couldn't even have
• 1:09:53
  the the 20 that we are 15 that we had before their.
• 1:09:57
  Profile filled out now or before.
• 1:10:00
  They just look bad. They look so bad like it's in I
• 1:10:05
  have beyond the whiteboard I have, I don't know, sugar wad.
• 1:10:10
  I've had all of them and it's like all that stuff's in there.
• 1:10:12
  It's it's, it looks nicer than that.
• 1:10:16
  And so it just and, and then the the ridiculous amount of them is
• 1:10:20
  what's. Crazy, I think this might be
• 1:10:24
  Renee. Is this Renee?
• 1:10:26
  800 meter run, then two rounds of 50 burpees, 40 pull ups, 30
• 1:10:31
  pistols, 20 kettlebell swings, 10 handstand push ups.
• 1:10:38
  OK. Yeah, I don't that what what do
• 1:10:43
  you think about CrossFit entering?
• 1:10:45
  I thought when when Rosa bought it, we were going to get like
• 1:10:49
  they're going to buy Whatify or some or create their own
• 1:10:55
  programming platform point of sale.
• 1:11:01
  Do you want to kill? Whatify.
• 1:11:06
  Waterfy beyond the whiteboard, like they serve the community.
• 1:11:09
  So you're going to look like to me visually, that's like you are
• 1:11:13
  completely doing a 180 from the Greg ethos, which is let the
• 1:11:19
  community solve those issues. That's not what we do.
• 1:11:25
  We run forward, push the methodology forward, push the
• 1:11:28
  branding. Forward I hear you I hear you
• 1:11:31
  and I get the idea of not killing what if I and be on the
• 1:11:37
  whiteboard and the other groups but it's business and like
• 1:11:45
  whether you acquire one of them right so you have a platform or
• 1:11:49
  you build your own and that's included in your affiliate fee
• 1:11:54
  because I mean they spend a lot of money, especially larger gyms
• 1:11:59
  for a what if I subscription yeah for all of their members.
• 1:12:03
  If that was included in your affiliate fee and it acted if it
• 1:12:08
  was watified because you bought them right and this is now a
• 1:12:12
  benefit of being an affiliate. It adds to the reason of why
• 1:12:15
  you'd want to be an affiliate. CrossFit gets access to all of
• 1:12:18
  your information. They know exactly how many
• 1:12:21
  people are doing CrossFit at your gym how many people are
• 1:12:24
  signed up like all of that data is super important and valuable.
• 1:12:31
  I feel like that would be something that CrossFit would
• 1:12:36
  do. I get the idea of if I were the
• 1:12:38
  others, but the. Easiest solution would be
• 1:12:41
  partner with beyond the whiteboard.
• 1:12:44
  What if I one of them and say you get like a something silly
• 1:12:47
  discount like 25 or more percent because because you're an
• 1:12:51
  affiliate and then I would use that to get the data from beyond
• 1:12:58
  the whiteboard. Yeah, the problem is there.
• 1:13:02
  I mean people are using Strivy and.
• 1:13:05
  Yeah. All the other all the other ones
• 1:13:07
  now, like versus like, I think if you gave it to a free like if
• 1:13:10
  it was yours and was like this is this is this does point of
• 1:13:13
  sale scheduling all that stuff, workout logging like it's free.
• 1:13:21
  You don't have to pay however much per month.
• 1:13:23
  Like you may not get everybody right.
• 1:13:24
  These people may be like I'm I'm happy with my solution but if I
• 1:13:28
  but if I started saving you 102 hundred plus dollars a month
• 1:13:32
  from that alone. This has always been my fear and
• 1:13:38
  something we haven't really talked about.
• 1:13:40
  So the the idea that that CrossFit might not sell, that
• 1:13:44
  that Berkshire might not sell CrossFit is like more and more
• 1:13:47
  real all the time. And some of the stories I've
• 1:13:51
  heard about their plans for the future is just all rent seeking.
• 1:13:57
  So it's like turning around to increasing or decreasing the
• 1:14:02
  time that your L1 is covered, increasing the time that your L2
• 1:14:07
  is. Covered so you got to re up,
• 1:14:09
  take a test and pay Pay 500 bucks and re.
• 1:14:12
  Up shit like that all the time, right?
• 1:14:13
  Well, I will say this. Companies are valued highly by
• 1:14:17
  subscriptions. Subscriptions are very, very
• 1:14:20
  valuable companies. Yes, so, and I said, I mentioned
• 1:14:24
  this in Savant's during Savant's show this afternoon.
• 1:14:27
  CrossFit is an affiliate subscription model, right?
• 1:14:32
  You're getting monthly dues from 10,000 affiliates right now.
• 1:14:38
  Why would you not increase that? Plus you get L ones and all that
• 1:14:41
  stuff. But if it but but those are
• 1:14:43
  less, those are probably more. They're fairly probably like
• 1:14:47
  level and predictable. But if you go to yours where
• 1:14:52
  it's you got to re up your L1 every year, you're now on AL one
• 1:14:56
  subscription basis, right, AL 2 subscription basis.
• 1:15:00
  And if it's not a high hurdle for them, it doesn't matter,
• 1:15:03
  right? Pay your it doesn't matter.
• 1:15:05
  Pay $200 a year to take your test and re up it.
• 1:15:10
  Force progression from the L1 to the L2.
• 1:15:11
  Here's the issue is like if it's not too big of a a lift, OK,
• 1:15:16
  we're going to do the online L1, we're going to do the online L2,
• 1:15:21
  but there's no real value in it. Not if you're teaching.
• 1:15:27
  If you're not teaching something new each time, it's literally
• 1:15:29
  just let's continue education. Check the check the box.
• 1:15:34
  You don't know my stuff. L1 you don't have to have an L1
• 1:15:38
  to even coach is does it look good?
• 1:15:41
  Sure. And like, I still don't believe
• 1:15:44
  that people use the feature of like, oh, they have AL 3 at
• 1:15:47
  their gym. Like people just go to whatever.
• 1:15:49
  Is no nobody. Knows right and they'll go to
• 1:15:51
  Instagram and they'll look at whose gym looks cool whose gym
• 1:15:56
  looks clean let. Me, let me tell you something
• 1:15:58
  about that. If I go dropping into a gym or
• 1:16:01
  look around at gyms, the drop into I look, I want to know
• 1:16:06
  who's who owns the place, right? Put a list of coaches who they
• 1:16:11
  are like a faceless, nameless, generic website.
• 1:16:17
  I'm probably not going to. It's one of my pet peeves.
• 1:16:21
  Do you look at the owner? Yeah, look at like who, who are
• 1:16:25
  the owners and the coaches? Like if if it's there like it,
• 1:16:28
  it just shows like how personable, like who who's
• 1:16:31
  running this gym? I just look at, I look at is the
• 1:16:37
  space look good? Does their Instagram look good?
• 1:16:42
  That's good social media. OK, Yeah.
• 1:16:44
  Do you have like a decent social media?
• 1:16:46
  That's what I usually look at or like, yeah, is any of the
• 1:16:50
  pictures like even on the on Yelp is like, do those look
• 1:16:54
  good? That's what I go off of.
• 1:16:58
  But going back to my example, so the big problem here is the
• 1:17:04
  affiliate model and not that and that CrossFit gyms aren't
• 1:17:09
  compelled to make these decisions if you go to the
• 1:17:12
  licensure model. The 24 Hour Fitness model.
• 1:17:16
  You can do this. Hey, we're all using Whatify.
• 1:17:20
  You need to use Whatify and we're going to collect some,
• 1:17:23
  some money off that stuff. And hey, you need this too.
• 1:17:26
  Yeah. I hear you.
• 1:17:27
  I don't. I don't like that part of it.
• 1:17:29
  I don't like. But the people seem to scream
• 1:17:31
  they want more services, they want more support from HQ.
• 1:17:34
  They are screaming for a licensure model.
• 1:17:39
  And it's like, you know who's screaming for that?
• 1:17:42
  It's new people, new affiliate owners, people who don't
• 1:17:45
  understand what they want and they're going to wish this into
• 1:17:49
  existence. And that's what I'm afraid of.
• 1:17:51
  Because if you're thinking about rent, rent seeking now, if I'm
• 1:17:54
  hearing rumors of rent seeking, you're going to try that at some
• 1:17:58
  point. It might be a year, 2 years,
• 1:18:00
  three years down the road. But that whole month, because
• 1:18:03
  once you do the L1 to L2 thing, where you what are you going to
• 1:18:08
  do next? Like you're going to run out of
• 1:18:11
  places to go and your next thing will be I'm going to wait till
• 1:18:14
  they all are just screaming for a.
• 1:18:17
  Franchise you put you put them on their on the they're caught
• 1:18:20
  water 5 platform that now is owned by CrossFit and now it's
• 1:18:24
  4% of 3% of all the revenues Yep, come to me and then.
• 1:18:29
  We're going to check that price up a little bit.
• 1:18:31
  And then we, yeah. And then we'll Jack it up and
• 1:18:32
  then they'll start, we'll start figuring out other ways to like,
• 1:18:38
  oh, we need advertising, we're going to advertise.
• 1:18:41
  So another percentage of your sales come to me.
• 1:18:45
  Like there's a lot of things that come in that way.
• 1:18:48
  I don't want it to go that way, but I could see it.
• 1:18:50
  That's a slippery slope. I think this is a a feeling of
• 1:18:55
  what many of us who've been around for 10 plus years feel.
• 1:18:58
  I miss my cult connection and that that is hard to explain if
• 1:19:07
  you've not been CrossFit. But I mean go back ten years or
• 1:19:16
  12/13/14 years in my case, and you walk around and you see
• 1:19:21
  somebody with a Rogue shirt on or Reebok Nanos when those came
• 1:19:25
  out, like you did not see him very often.
• 1:19:28
  You're like, oh wait, you're 1 of you're one of us and you talk
• 1:19:32
  to him now you don't you don't notice that as much, right?
• 1:19:35
  Like you, you just don't have that like so Larry Young for the
• 1:19:42
  most part, if you have been around you affiliate just to
• 1:19:46
  represent CrossFit and it makes the open easy to me.
• 1:19:52
  Yeah. I, I, I mean, I would agree with
• 1:19:56
  that, like I was saying earlier, like if I affiliate, like if I
• 1:19:59
  open the gym. I would affiliate and it's like
• 1:20:02
  just to be in connection with CrossFit but I'm starting to
• 1:20:05
  lose like reasons for that Has chick I started in O 9 Jesus.
• 1:20:14
  There you go. Let's see, I need to just send a
• 1:20:18
  photo to myself here. Share, share, share with you
• 1:20:24
  something you may not want to see, but you're going to see it
• 1:20:27
  anyway. Give me one second, then we'll
• 1:20:31
  head over to Tyler's own Blind rankings.
• 1:20:34
  How? Am I going to do this?
• 1:20:36
  You get to, you get to rank it on your own.
• 1:20:38
  You have. Let's see.
• 1:20:42
  I was going to say, why don't you rank them, but you know what
• 1:20:44
  they are. Yeah, that would not work.
• 1:20:47
  They would not be blind. All right, here we go.
• 1:20:49
  Hold on, man. This is.
• 1:20:51
  I'm sorry guys. Yeah.
• 1:20:58
  You. Ready saw somebody in the
• 1:21:00
  Atlanta airport with Nanos. Had to talk to him, Yelp.
• 1:21:03
  Yeah, here we go. I'm sorry.
• 1:21:05
  Let's go. Disclaimer, Be really careful
• 1:21:08
  watching this. There he is, John Young.
• 1:21:14
  In the bathtub, of all places. He's done.
• 1:21:19
  He's out for the count, dude. Look at that eye.
• 1:21:21
  You can't even open that eye. Pretty bright though.
• 1:21:24
  Drinks Propel. Who drinks Propel?
• 1:21:29
  John drinks multiple bottles of that to keep.
• 1:21:32
  My brother's kids, that's who drinks Propel.
• 1:21:35
  Come on, John, you're an enigma, dude.
• 1:21:39
  I just want to know how he inadvertently took an eighth of
• 1:21:46
  an inch off his cornea. I don't know.
• 1:21:48
  I don't know. Great.
• 1:21:51
  But that. Have you ever tasted an
• 1:21:57
  artificial grape flavor that tastes like a grape I.
• 1:22:00
  No. Or like anything that's called
• 1:22:02
  that's grape flavored. Fake.
• 1:22:04
  I'd like fake flavors for being fake flavors.
• 1:22:08
  So like oh man, cough syrup. Grape cough syrup is so good I
• 1:22:16
  love. It it's not even grape flavored,
• 1:22:20
  no. But the fake bubble gum flavor
• 1:22:24
  cough syrup? Good.
• 1:22:26
  Oh man, strawberry blue Raspberry is the greatest
• 1:22:31
  because that's not even real. I'll leave Fraser trying to
• 1:22:39
  Unsee JY in the tub, sorry. Oh y'all don't know the half of
• 1:22:43
  it we've gotten FaceTime calls him in the bathtub all.
• 1:22:48
  Right. I think it's time for some blind
• 1:22:50
  rankings, Tyler. I will not try to make you guess
• 1:22:54
  what these are. OK, sweet.
• 1:22:57
  But you, you're just going to rapid fire these suckers and
• 1:23:01
  we'll see how how good you can do this.
• 1:23:08
  Today's topic fruit. If we had Jr. this would be
• 1:23:12
  perfect Jr. but nobody called in.
• 1:23:17
  You guys are all bums, all right?
• 1:23:19
  Fruit. I've been in.
• 1:23:20
  Apples here lately, so pretty up on.
• 1:23:23
  My have you done the meat and fruit?
• 1:23:25
  Have you done the meat and fruit diet?
• 1:23:26
  Before I did, did I? I went like a few years ago.
• 1:23:31
  I ate rib eyes and oranges and that's all I ate for like 6
• 1:23:36
  months. How'd you do on that?
• 1:23:39
  I got so lean. It was the leanest I've ever
• 1:23:41
  been and I was eating like two or three rib eyes a day.
• 1:23:45
  It was crazy. That's a lot of rib eye.
• 1:23:48
  I mean like, you would get hangry, you just hit an orange,
• 1:23:51
  you'd be good. Good.
• 1:23:52
  OK, All right, well, let's see what your palette is for fruit.
• 1:23:58
  And it's not sunny D Sorry, crossfat.
• 1:24:00
  All right, here we go. Mango.
• 1:24:03
  The Mango 55. 5 They're so bad, they're so bad.
• 1:24:08
  What? Is wrong with the mango.
• 1:24:09
  They're freaking yeah, they're slime.
• 1:24:12
  I did. OK So a major thing for me with
• 1:24:14
  fruit is texture. Hold up, hold up, Is CrossFit
• 1:24:19
  Taylor or Taylor or Taylor? Dried mangoes.
• 1:24:27
  I can't eat just mangoes. There's it's the slimy thing.
• 1:24:34
  It's so there. Oh man, mangoes.
• 1:24:38
  You like mangoes? I like Mango, Yeah.
• 1:24:41
  I'd probably say it's one or two for me.
• 1:24:44
  Yeah, that's just me saying how much I like mango, not saying
• 1:24:47
  where you should rank it relative to other fruits, but
• 1:24:52
  that you don't know. My palate is weak.
• 1:24:56
  Oh I beg the different charger. It's just I really hate mangoes.
• 1:24:59
  OK, we'll find out what else you like better than mango.
• 1:25:03
  Here we go, the blueberry. 2. 2. Frozen, especially.
• 1:25:12
  You need frozen. Yeah, I like them.
• 1:25:14
  I like them frozen better. I would say.
• 1:25:19
  We were at Crash. It's the front.
• 1:25:21
  Like it's the first time I ever met Pedro, right?
• 1:25:23
  And he's been there a couple days and he's like last day.
• 1:25:25
  He's so hungry and I'm really bad.
• 1:25:28
  Like when I go on on trips and stuff like on that, I just won't
• 1:25:32
  eat. Like I'll just go without doing
• 1:25:34
  stuff. So it's it's in the morning and
• 1:25:35
  he wants food. What jy pink eye?
• 1:25:46
  Anyway, so we, I, I had some frozen fruit in the freezer at
• 1:25:51
  JRS, which may still be in the freezer at Crash.
• 1:25:54
  I'm not sure. Probably is it's frozen
• 1:25:57
  strawberries and frozen blueberries and I would just eat
• 1:26:00
  them like I love frozen fruit. So Peter had never done that.
• 1:26:04
  And he ate, he ate quite a bit, like maybe a whole cup full of
• 1:26:09
  frozen fruit. And he he'll still tell you.
• 1:26:11
  Like he was like, it was like a rock was just sitting in the
• 1:26:13
  middle of my stomach. And like, he's filming and he's
• 1:26:17
  just like this. And I'm running around like a
• 1:26:21
  machine. I'm eating all the same fruit.
• 1:26:23
  I just thought it was hilarious. Oh man, I thought it was
• 1:26:28
  interesting Pedro didn't know what YouTube TV was.
• 1:26:32
  I guess I didn't realize that Europe didn't have.
• 1:26:34
  Do they not have it? I don't guess, I guess not.
• 1:26:37
  Weird. No.
• 1:26:38
  Oh. Judy, good call.
• 1:26:42
  Kiwi maybe, maybe not. We'll find out next one up it.
• 1:26:45
  Ain't it? Ain't.
• 1:26:48
  Pomegranate 440 OK. It's just not, it's not very
• 1:26:55
  interesting. I.
• 1:26:58
  Think it's really interesting, but I could see why you would
• 1:27:01
  rate it out of four. It's just like it's more watery
• 1:27:06
  than anything and the flavor I don't find to be.
• 1:27:08
  All that we've just gotten, we've got onto a kick of it.
• 1:27:12
  I bought, I bought, I bought a pomegranate.
• 1:27:14
  I was like, I'm going to try this.
• 1:27:17
  And Miss Spin was very happy with it.
• 1:27:21
  That is, that is why I would rank it at #4 it the, the, the
• 1:27:29
  effort it takes, I call it the crab legs of fruit takes a
• 1:27:36
  really long time to get to what you're actually going to eat.
• 1:27:41
  And then you're like, that's it, crab legs.
• 1:27:44
  Another one of those things that I'm like.
• 1:27:46
  I'll leave it not worth it so I can see it.
• 1:27:50
  I, I, I do like the pomegranate though.
• 1:27:52
  All right, Next up, a banana. See I've messed up here.
• 1:28:00
  This worse than mango. It is worse than Mango for me.
• 1:28:05
  This. We always disagree on if this is
• 1:28:08
  the people's ranking or if it's our rankings.
• 1:28:11
  It's your ranking. The people would probably put
• 1:28:14
  this at a one or three remaining.
• 1:28:18
  I still don't know that it beats blueberries, so I hate bananas.
• 1:28:23
  That mushy texture. I actually don't mind the flavor
• 1:28:26
  I like. The greener ones.
• 1:28:29
  Why? They're not as mushy.
• 1:28:33
  That's it. I there's no fixing that
• 1:28:34
  mushiness. It's.
• 1:28:39
  Yeah. Baked bread.
• 1:28:40
  Yeah. We, if we're making banana
• 1:28:41
  bread, I'm all about it. Baby.
• 1:28:44
  Banana bread at work, dude. Yeah, I'm going to go three.
• 1:28:50
  I I'm, I'm 4. I'm screwed, dude.
• 1:28:52
  Unless it's blackberries or grapes or strawberries.
• 1:28:58
  Maybe oranges. Then we're safe.
• 1:29:01
  It's not. It's going to be like freaking
• 1:29:03
  monk fruit or something. It's nothing crazy, but it's
• 1:29:07
  definitely not anything that you have listed so.
• 1:29:10
  Peel them, Tyler, I've just been eating them wrong this whole
• 1:29:15
  time. How do you guys get past the
• 1:29:17
  skin? It's.
• 1:29:18
  Just terrible. It's really chewy.
• 1:29:20
  All right, lot #1 on Tyler's ranking of fruit, the pineapple.
• 1:29:26
  I'm OK with this. Blueberry is better, but I'm OK
• 1:29:28
  with pineapple being on top. OK.
• 1:29:31
  I would eat blueberry every day. I would not eat pineapple every
• 1:29:34
  day. So you'd only eat blueberries on
• 1:29:37
  this list? No, I'd eat blueberries and
• 1:29:41
  pineapples. Blueberries every day.
• 1:29:43
  OK, bananas. You know what's funny?
• 1:29:49
  I love plantains. I hate bananas.
• 1:29:53
  The plantains are potato. Very, very starchy.
• 1:29:56
  Yeah, I'm fine with this. There you go, just another
• 1:30:01
  reminder code spinmantasleep.com black out all that light around
• 1:30:08
  you, especially if you're seeing the Northern Lights.
• 1:30:10
  Did you see those last night, Tyler?
• 1:30:11
  No. You should check it out tonight.
• 1:30:15
  Is it going to be out tonight? Yeah, it's supposed to be even
• 1:30:18
  stronger tonight, not getting as far South, I don't think, but.
• 1:30:22
  Well, that's OK, I'm in the north.
• 1:30:23
  You're you're farther enough N that you might get to see it so.
• 1:30:28
  Go check that out. I saw that picture that Rios
• 1:30:29
  posted and that was nuts. He was like just walked out the
• 1:30:31
  door. We could see it out of, I mean,
• 1:30:34
  it, it was in Tennessee. I have a photo of it, but you
• 1:30:38
  could kind of see pink. And then you take a photo of it
• 1:30:40
  and it like, really looks red. Yeah, but it's not that nothing
• 1:30:44
  like, you know, Canada, Iceland, all that stuff where it's like
• 1:30:48
  green. You could see it like waving
• 1:30:50
  around in the sky and stuff. But yeah, you know.
• 1:30:53
  Pretty cool, I've never seen the Northern Lights.
• 1:30:56
  They're out there, they're out there tonight, so go check those
• 1:30:59
  out. And finally, to wrap up the
• 1:31:01
  show, we're going to go back to semifinals.
• 1:31:05
  In my series of how to qualify for the different semifinals,
• 1:31:09
  French Throwdown is allocating half of its spots to Europeans
• 1:31:17
  only. So they have two paths to
• 1:31:20
  qualify for the French throw down.
• 1:31:23
  The first one is their online qualifier.
• 1:31:27
  It's late January to early February.
• 1:31:31
  You can go that way. That's worldwide.
• 1:31:33
  Anybody can join and do that. However, if you go through the
• 1:31:37
  opening quarterfinals top 20 in Europe only, do you like saving
• 1:31:46
  spots for your region and allowing another path for
• 1:31:52
  outside of your region? Yes, I think our regions should
• 1:31:58
  be segregated. Do you think it matters though?
• 1:32:03
  No, no, I mean how many if. You let them in, they're going
• 1:32:11
  to get there anyway, they're going to win, right?
• 1:32:16
  Yeah. I mean, I guess the question is
• 1:32:18
  it now, if you are Chris Ibarra like we talked about last week
• 1:32:22
  and he needs to go to Europe to qualify, Does he go, does he
• 1:32:26
  sign up for the qualifier, the separate qualifier that the
• 1:32:31
  French Throwdown does to qualify for that?
• 1:32:36
  Or should it just be like, hey, French throwdown, you got to
• 1:32:38
  just start inviting people from quarterfinals, just like
• 1:32:41
  Syndicate's doing other semifinals that are just going
• 1:32:45
  to go through the list of quarterfinals.
• 1:32:47
  That's what it is. It does seem cheap, doesn't it?
• 1:32:50
  Like that? You have, I mean.
• 1:32:51
  People not from Europe. People would say the same.
• 1:32:54
  Well, what what you mean somebody from the States or
• 1:32:57
  Australia or whoever coming into Europe and qualifying?
• 1:33:00
  Yeah, I hear you. I I mean, I think people may
• 1:33:05
  have been upset last year that especially how the season played
• 1:33:09
  out with world fitness project. Like, you know, if Fiona hadn't
• 1:33:13
  qualified in the last chance qualifier, right?
• 1:33:16
  Like we thought he was out, but like Aniol chose to do world
• 1:33:19
  fitness project instead of doing another in person qualifying
• 1:33:25
  event outside of Wildland fest where he didn't qualify.
• 1:33:28
  Like it would been a better timing for him to go to
• 1:33:30
  syndicate or Norcal. I guess he could have gone to
• 1:33:33
  Norcal, but it was too late because he didn't do the
• 1:33:35
  qualifier. But like, he could have gone to
• 1:33:39
  syndicate a few weeks later and maybe had a a chance, right?
• 1:33:43
  But he wasn't allowed to. Same with BKG.
• 1:33:46
  So I think they may have been upset with that.
• 1:33:52
  But I mean, there is a path for anybody to get in.
• 1:33:55
  Also, you don't have to do the open and quarterfinals to
• 1:33:58
  qualify through their own in person qualifier.
• 1:34:02
  So like, so like, Elisa Fuliano could compete there again if she
• 1:34:05
  wanted, if she didn't do the Open.
• 1:34:07
  Right, but she can't qualify for the games.
• 1:34:09
  Like Luke could do the same thing if he chose to, to do
• 1:34:12
  that, right? So it's giving people the
• 1:34:14
  opportunity to compete and take spots from qualifying through
• 1:34:17
  the online qualifier from around the world who aren't going to
• 1:34:22
  try to earn a spot at the Games. I think that's a little weird.
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  That is kind of weird. But I think again, like, I don't
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  think a lot of people are going to travel across the world to
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  compete at a semifinal. Maybe I'm wrong.
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  Maybe like we'll see people go to go to syndicate, but I just
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  don't think like people are going to go from across the
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  world to syndicate or from the States to Europe unless you're
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  kind of maybe those fringe cases.
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  And honestly, like, I don't know, I mean, Ibarra could go,
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  Ty Jenkins could go like guys that are like maybe probably
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  wouldn't qualify in a full field of syndicate when there's only
• 1:35:07
  three spots available. They might be in the contention,
• 1:35:11
  right? I don't think they dominate.
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  If I'm a bubble games athlete, I'm thinking about traveling
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  like a you're not a lock, you're just, you're just not a lock.
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  And so I'm going to make it to where I've got the best chances
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  to be a lock as I can. Right.
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  I I don't understand why you wouldn't do that.
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  Like if you really want to get it's.
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  Expensive. It's expensive, but it's.
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  Worth it. Like Ty probably has some
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  sponsorships now. Yeah, Ibarra has some
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  sponsorships, maybe not as many as he could, but like those
• 1:35:45
  athletes do have sponsors that may cover that type of travel
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  and you know, go, go over there. But if you're if you've never
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  made the games, you probably don't have enough sponsorships
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  to cover those that that type of expense, right.
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  So I don't think, I mean, I think mostly Europeans, you
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  might get some of those like from Dubai, right, that that fly
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  over. But I think it's going to be
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  pretty regional regionally, like segmented.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably for. The most part.
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  I do think it avoids the French third down from having to submit
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  like ask, you know, the top 10, which should be half come from
• 1:36:26
  the States. Do you want to qualify?
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  Do you want to come over and accept your invite?
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  They're like no. And doing that whole backfill
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  process, which Wilson at Syndicate will have to go
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  through. Yes.
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  So I think it avoids that makes their life easier because they
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  just go to Europe and most, I would say all 20 from Europe are
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  going to say yes, right, right. And so they don't have to worry
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  about it. And if you go from the world
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  into their online qualifier, you've already said that you
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  wanted to go to compete there. What I hate about it is just
• 1:36:54
  like there's no the, there's no mystique to the like the the the
• 1:37:02
  semi. Final, you really like you
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  really like that region based. I really love region.
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  Based things and I can't I just can't help it.
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  And that was a killer thing about regionals is like it was
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  people are so tied to their region and now it's like you,
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  you know, the whole Europe, Europe versus the US thing used
• 1:37:19
  to be a a bigger deal. Meridian had their own thing and
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  now it's just like if you can go anywhere it just is so
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  meaningless so. I mean, they opened it up a
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  little bit. Was it 2014?
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  We've talked about this before. Like they did allow people to
• 1:37:38
  travel like sign up for whatever region they no one did.
• 1:37:42
  There were. I mean, yes, there were some.
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  But like a couple people did, it wasn't as much as you thought
• 1:37:46
  there might be. Right.
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  Yeah, I see somebody earlier was talking about Brent when he went
• 1:37:50
  to the panda. What was it?
• 1:37:52
  Panda Land. Oh yeah, one of the sanctionals
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  I. Think it was Panaland, but yeah,
• 1:38:01
  he like qualified out of there. You know what?
• 1:38:03
  I've never, I don't think anybody's ever asked him.
• 1:38:06
  Like was there a moment when he was there where he's like, oh, I
• 1:38:09
  can, I can pull off the gas. Like I don't have to go as hard,
• 1:38:14
  I bet. I mean, I'm sure he still had to
• 1:38:15
  go hard, but like you look. Around you're like.
• 1:38:19
  I'm good. Yeah.
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  You're just like, oh, cool, I don't have to like, try as hard.
• 1:38:23
  This this is easy. And it'd be cool if it was like,
• 1:38:27
  Nate went to Africa and he's like, oh, shit.
• 1:38:30
  Like I'm fucking in, yeah. I think, I think he would notice
• 1:38:36
  and I think he would qualify, don't get me wrong.
• 1:38:39
  But like South Africa has some pretty high elevations, Yeah.
• 1:38:43
  And like you may not be ready for that.
• 1:38:46
  And so I mean, you take a risk at flying internationally, yes.
• 1:38:51
  I mean, look at how everybody got sick at coming either going
• 1:38:55
  to rogue or coming out of rogue. Like, you know, it's not you
• 1:39:01
  travel over there and get sick and then your weekend is ruined
• 1:39:04
  and you don't qualify or you don't adapt to the the altitude
• 1:39:07
  training. So like it's not a guarantee.
• 1:39:10
  I do agree with Crossfat though. Don't have non games people
• 1:39:14
  there. I don't want 5th place person to
• 1:39:16
  get their ticket. That sucked during the sanction
• 1:39:18
  of years. We saw it even this last year
• 1:39:21
  when Alisa Fuliano was top 2. And so the the I think it was
• 1:39:28
  Lucy Campbell made it. Yeah, next she was third, I
• 1:39:32
  think something like that. So it is weird.
• 1:39:35
  I don't like that. Like this is a CrossFit game
• 1:39:39
  season. These are qualifiers for the
• 1:39:43
  games. I think those spots should be
• 1:39:45
  there, and I do like Syndicate's idea that if you've already
• 1:39:49
  qualified, don't come. Right, I like that.
• 1:39:58
  I want every all 40 athletes or however big the field is, those
• 1:40:02
  are the people who can qualify for the games.
• 1:40:04
  I don't want disclaimers, clarifications, confusion of
• 1:40:09
  well this person wasn't didn't finish in the top 2000 at
• 1:40:12
  quarterfinals. Yeah, OK, I'll go back.
• 1:40:15
  I go back and forth on this because I do like that like it's
• 1:40:19
  easy like 1-2 and three are going to the games.
• 1:40:22
  But I also like generally like if you've already qualified for
• 1:40:26
  the games, you're those guys tend to get like first or
• 1:40:31
  second, they're in the top. So like it'll push the
• 1:40:35
  qualifiers back, like maybe even a heat, but there's more to talk
• 1:40:39
  about. Like as they come across the
• 1:40:40
  line, you're like, oh, shit. Like this is for a spot right
• 1:40:43
  here. I don't like it.
• 1:40:45
  You don't like that? No.
• 1:40:46
  It's too confusing like only. For one, heat.
• 1:40:49
  Does that end up mattering? No, but no, because then you
• 1:40:53
  have to make a disclaimer like oh, it's not 1st and 2nd and 3rd
• 1:40:56
  that get it. It's now 1st, 4th and 5th
• 1:40:59
  because we had two randoms come in and take spots.
• 1:41:04
  This is just. Cross that like I wish we had a
• 1:41:09
  way of doing like more conference type stuff because
• 1:41:12
  yeah, conference tournaments are crazy.
• 1:41:16
  I wish we had a way to do that. I.
• 1:41:19
  Mean that was kind of like regionals back in the day.
• 1:41:21
  Right. Yeah, it was.
• 1:41:22
  That's what regionals was. It was our conference
• 1:41:24
  championship. And he knew some some regionals,
• 1:41:27
  some conferences were stronger than others, yes.
• 1:41:30
  And then some were weaker. And you know, South Central is
• 1:41:34
  OK Central E was the best. And if you came in the Central E
• 1:41:41
  sorry, like you had to beat Rich and Graham and Dan and Scott
• 1:41:47
  Marcus will like the list just goes on and on.
• 1:41:51
  Right it was. Like that last year Rich made it
• 1:41:54
  was like 10 guys for like games, you know, caliber and they
• 1:41:58
  couldn't go to the games, right. That's what I will say is better
• 1:42:02
  about the system now is like if you know well shit like Jason
• 1:42:07
  and down and and James are going to this one, I'm just not going
• 1:42:10
  to go. But that's the hard part though,
• 1:42:12
  because if you want to go to French, you got to commit at the
• 1:42:16
  end of January and start the qualifier.
• 1:42:18
  Right, I know. And we don't know, like we don't
• 1:42:22
  know what the the African Rebel, Renegades games going to do Far
• 1:42:25
  East throw down. Both of those had qualifiers
• 1:42:28
  last year. So like, you know, Tori and I
• 1:42:33
  think last year they did the extra workout.
• 1:42:35
  So you had to sign up ahead of time and submit your scores in
• 1:42:38
  competition corner as you went through the Open and then you
• 1:42:40
  had a fourth workout. So if they do something like
• 1:42:43
  that, again, you have to be, you have to think way far ahead in
• 1:42:46
  case you're in that situation where, yeah, I want to go to
• 1:42:49
  syndicate. And then you realize I can't
• 1:42:52
  beat these guys, right? Right.
• 1:42:55
  Like there's six of them that are going to be fighting for
• 1:42:57
  three spots. I am not one of those six guys.
• 1:43:00
  I'm out. Yeah.
• 1:43:02
  And now it's too late to go to French, you know, and whatever
• 1:43:06
  other you know, international ones may have different
• 1:43:08
  restrictions or ways to qualify, you didn't pay attention to and
• 1:43:11
  you just don't have the opportunity.
• 1:43:14
  You didn't do the Norcal qualifier.
• 1:43:19
  I remember that was an issue, like for TFX, you were like,
• 1:43:22
  look like these athletes aren't like no one's signing up for the
• 1:43:27
  TFX and like they could have just gone to the Games.
• 1:43:30
  All they do is sign up anyway. Yeah, so we'll see.
• 1:43:38
  Just keep, I'll just keep posting those and, you know,
• 1:43:43
  figure out how to qualify. So if you're competing and you
• 1:43:46
  do want to try to qualify, follow those articles because
• 1:43:50
  come mid January, you need to know, I guess probably early
• 1:43:54
  January. I think the Norcal is early
• 1:43:56
  January, like you got to be ready to go and you might be
• 1:43:59
  doing qualifiers through the Open.
• 1:44:03
  So good luck with that. And maybe just read the article.
• 1:44:06
  Try it. Try it.
• 1:44:07
  Here's. A good Here's a good question
• 1:44:09
  from Will Plummer Crossfat. Where did you place in the open?
• 1:44:12
  Oh, that's a good idea there. Will Yeah.
• 1:44:15
  What page were you on on the Worldwide leaderboard?
• 1:44:17
  Just give me a page. Yeah, just.
• 1:44:20
  One page, maybe he'll tell us. I think that's it.
• 1:44:27
  John. If you're watching get, fix up
• 1:44:29
  that eyeball, yeah. Any predictions about the State
• 1:44:34
  of the Union? When we look back on this show
• 1:44:36
  in the year, we're like we're doing the 2026 State of the
• 1:44:40
  Union. I think Rich is still with us.
• 1:44:44
  I don't think he leaves. I don't think they tell us
• 1:44:49
  exactly what Project Mayhem is. What else?
• 1:44:56
  You don't think they'll have? They won't tell us what Project
• 1:45:00
  Man is. We won't know for a whole damn
• 1:45:03
  year. No, we'll never know.
• 1:45:04
  They'll just talk around it and be like, yeah, we're doing
• 1:45:06
  stuff, join us. That's a wild one.
• 1:45:13
  And I think they'll we'll add more semifinals next year.
• 1:45:23
  Even more semifinals, even more they're going to open up the
• 1:45:28
  field or they'll reduce seats. Reduce seats, give more
• 1:45:32
  opportunities. More semifinals, less basically
• 1:45:36
  the. Same less big ones, less big
• 1:45:39
  semifinals and more smaller ones.
• 1:45:43
  I hate that you're probably. I hate that I feel like you're
• 1:45:46
  right. I think there's a place for him,
• 1:45:50
  but I think that going to smaller format ones that may not
• 1:45:54
  be as costly to run will be the way that they go.
• 1:46:00
  Dude start doing the semi finals like just where we're going to
• 1:46:03
  have them beach brawl style. Well, I think it's OK.
• 1:46:06
  I mean, again, if you have a whole bunch of them and they're
• 1:46:07
  not, you know, multiple ones on each weekend.
• 1:46:14
  Yeah. Like, I think it puts a lot of
• 1:46:16
  pressure on these guys to run a big competition year after year.
• 1:46:20
  It does. I mean like the the peek behind
• 1:46:25
  the curtain I got for Syndicate, it was overwhelming and we only
• 1:46:30
  did the broadcast right? Like what?
• 1:46:35
  And like, granted, it's Wilson and he's like the he's the best
• 1:46:40
  of the best at organizing these things, but like, it's
• 1:46:42
  stressful. There's shit like, and he ran,
• 1:46:45
  he ran a, he ran a side team league or team competition.
• 1:46:49
  Like it's added the complexity to it this year.
• 1:46:54
  And yeah, I mean, that's, you know, granted he has, he knows
• 1:46:59
  what's happening now. He can start planning now.
• 1:47:02
  Last year it was like January. So he gets an extra couple
• 1:47:05
  months. That helps a lot.
• 1:47:09
  But sponsorships, money, funding, all that stuff to go
• 1:47:15
  through that year after year after year, when we know that
• 1:47:18
  very few competitions are like just making good money.
• 1:47:23
  It's tough, right? But if you have smaller ones,
• 1:47:28
  but maybe not the need to do a full broadcast live stream.
• 1:47:33
  Maybe pick? That's the direction we see go.
• 1:47:36
  You could if you want. Did you see the mode is going
• 1:47:39
  through Brian? Mode the mode CrossFit I did not
• 1:47:44
  see that. I'm going to be, I'm, I'm
• 1:47:46
  disappointed in you, James. I'm just going to say it out
• 1:47:49
  loud. I'm disappointed in you, buddy.
• 1:47:52
  Best of luck. All right guys.
• 1:47:55
  Wish John Young healing eye. Hopefully we'll be back next
• 1:47:59
  week and maybe we'll learn more about the potential buyer.
• 1:48:06
  This is the same thing. Is it that it feels like to be
• 1:48:09
  around Jr. For me, well, apparently
• 1:48:17
  CrossFit knows Wilson. All right, that's it thanks for
• 1:48:22
  joining us stay tuned. Maybe we'll have some more
• 1:48:24
  information about the buyers next week or anytime, and if
• 1:48:29
  not, we'll just wait till the end of January and find out if
• 1:48:31
  we're out for. The deaves, the deeds strikes
• 1:48:34
  again. That's right.
• 1:48:35
  All right. See you guys next week.
• 1:48:36
  I apologize to absolutely nobody.