Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / The Business Butterfly Effect: How Small Decisions Create Big Impacts
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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the show. Apologies because I've been away
- 0:05for about three or four days, but I'm back now.
- 0:08Before I took off, I think we wrapped up with the series on
- 0:13things that people need to know if they are new in business, if
- 0:17they haven't had any previous business experience, they have a
- 0:21limited business experience and they're looking for practical
- 0:23guidance on what to do as a first time entrepreneur.
- 0:26So I OK, so I think before I disappeared, that was the series
- 0:32that I had just wrapped up. So today I have made a couple of
- 0:37notes. So I hope this is not going to
- 0:39be a lengthy episode because I want to tie in all the things
- 0:42that we discussed because I can imagine a bunch of first time
- 0:46listeners listening to those episodes.
- 0:47And I'm thinking, look, this is highly impractical.
- 0:50This is not going to work. You're being unnecessarily
- 0:53philosophical. So I just want to tie it into my
- 0:56own business experience as I have transitioned from being a
- 1:00wedding photographer into business consulting and public
- 1:04speaking. So I'll just show you guys how
- 1:06the ideas that we discussed were not just highfaluting.
- 1:10I'm not just taking a philosophical stand for the sake
- 1:13of taking a philosophical stand. So that's what today's episode
- 1:17is going to be about. For those of you who are new to
- 1:22the podcast and this is your first episode that you're
- 1:25listening to, I'm just going to recap the things that I had, the
- 1:29series of tips or advice that I had for people who have limited
- 1:32business experience and who are ready to get into the business
- 1:35space, the entrepreneurial space.
- 1:37And so my advice was that number one, that the business name is
- 1:43not important, so we shouldn't spend too much time on that.
- 1:46Number two, that branding is not important, so we shouldn't spend
- 1:48too much time on that either. And that idea protection is not
- 1:52that important, so we shouldn't be spending too much time on
- 1:55idea protection. And that no business idea sells
- 1:58itself, so we shouldn't bother looking for that magic business
- 2:03idea that is going to just take off like a rocket and all we
- 2:07have to do is just sit back and collect our profits.
- 2:09Then the final thing was that business is a team sport.
- 2:12Even if you want to be a solo solo premier or you know,
- 2:16whatever it is you want to call it, you want to be a self-made
- 2:18man, self-made woman, self-made, whatever, or you want to be a
- 2:21solo this or a solo that, that business is a team sport.
- 2:24So it's best to just try and anticipate the level of team
- 2:27involvement or involvement that you're going to have with other
- 2:29people and then plan for it accordingly.
- 2:32So that is the reason why I'm making a tie in episode today
- 2:35because on the face of it, especially for those of you who
- 2:38didn't listen to the previous episodes, these things seem kind
- 2:41of strange for you to hear from someone who is supposedly a
- 2:45sales coach and a business consultant.
- 2:48So again, the things that we're going to talk about today and
- 2:52that are going to run through my time episode #1 your business
- 2:56name is not important, don't spend too much time on it #2
- 2:59branding is not important. Don't spend too much time on
- 3:01that. Number three idea protection is
- 3:04not important. Don't spend too much time on
- 3:06that. And #4 no business idea sells
- 3:08itself #5 business is a team sport.
- 3:12So number one business name. We're going to use my business
- 3:16experience to show how traction or validation is more important
- 3:22than other factors that people attribute to business success.
- 3:26Because there are some people who think getting the perfect
- 3:29business name is what it is that is going to chart the path for
- 3:32you. And of course, getting the
- 3:34perfect business name or the right business name is
- 3:36important. But my own take is that if
- 3:38you're getting into business, your business name is not as
- 3:41important to business success as most people think.
- 3:44What we should be paying attention to is traction or
- 3:47validation. And in the early days, any
- 3:50simple, common sense, workable name will do.
- 3:54Especially since you'll find that for your favorite brands,
- 3:57they have started off with one name and have transitioned into
- 4:00other thing. And you even find that there are
- 4:02some of your favorite brands that have one name that seems to
- 4:05be quite a mouthful, like BMW. It actually is ban something,
- 4:09something, something, you know, a bunch of letters and it seems
- 4:12impossibly long, you know, but everybody just calls them BMW.
- 4:14So the most important thing in the whole case was not to
- 4:18agonize over what name should we call this fledgling Motor
- 4:22Company because they picked, in my own opinion, the most
- 4:25difficult name possible because I don't know how it's
- 4:27pronounced. It just seems like a bunch of
- 4:28letters, but it has found out OK, because they make superior
- 4:32equipment. They're really good at
- 4:33engineering and styling decisions and their initials
- 4:37don't seem bad. BMW.
- 4:39So in Nigeria, people like, hey, I want to buy a BMW on an X8 and
- 4:42X7 and X5 and X this and lots of business, lots of Nigerians
- 4:48don't even know the name of the company.
- 4:51They just love the product. So now let me tie that into my
- 4:54own business experience. So in the beginning, I just
- 4:59focused on picking a functional name or a practical name.
- 5:03And I didn't waste much time on that because I expected that the
- 5:06name was going to change over time as I discovered who my ICP
- 5:09was. Your ICP is your ideal customer
- 5:12profile, your target audience, the people who vibe with you.
- 5:15I mean, whatever it is you want to call it, the people you want
- 5:17to vibe with. And realistically Speaking of, I
- 5:20was going to enter into business consulting with the ideas that I
- 5:23have about business. I was under no illusions that
- 5:27the core crop of people that I was going to start with in the
- 5:29beginning were going to remain the audience that I would keep
- 5:32over the lifetime of my business consulting practice.
- 5:35So it's been a couple of years and initially the name of my
- 5:37show because I was going to use the podcast as a tool for
- 5:43content marketing to promote that switch.
- 5:47Because you can't say that you're going to go from a career
- 5:50of being a wedding photographer of close to a decade and then
- 5:56overnight you want to switch into business consulting.
- 5:58And then people are just going to go with you.
- 6:00They'll just ride with you. There's a little bit of
- 6:02dissonance that is involved, you know, for the people who have
- 6:05known you about a decade prior, especially if you haven't been
- 6:07talking publicly about your ideas about business and your
- 6:12experiences about business. So for me, the podcast, what I
- 6:15have now was key to the content marketing strategy, my strategy
- 6:18of transitioning from being a wedding photographer into being
- 6:22a business consultant. Now, for those of you who've
- 6:24been listening from day one, you know that initially the show was
- 6:28titled Sales for the Nigerian Wedding Photographer.
- 6:32So if this is your first time, if you have just discovered the
- 6:35podcast and you discovered from the older episodes and you're
- 6:37now listening to a few current ones, that is the reason for the
- 6:40switch, why you would have heard me introduce the show as Sales
- 6:44for the Nigerian Wedding Photographer.
- 6:46Well then clearly you're listening to business content
- 6:48from this podcast now and you see that it has a much wider
- 6:51ambience. Sorry, a much wider ambit and
- 6:54audience. So yeah, I knew that things were
- 6:58going to change over time. So I just picked the most
- 7:01simple, practical, non fancy, non whatever names possible.
- 7:05So for the business consulting practice, I just called it
- 7:07Aberdeen Business Consulting. Why did I call Aberdeen Business
- 7:10consulting? Nothing in particular.
- 7:12Aberdeen Business consulting ABC, I finished from University
- 7:15of Aberdeen. So I just picked a name and it's
- 7:17that simple. And the name neither emphasizes
- 7:22or promotes or details what it is that I'm trying to do.
- 7:26I haven't met anybody who, first of all, in the beginning when
- 7:29we're having consultation, consultations and negotiations,
- 7:32I haven't met anyone who has me. By the way, what's your business
- 7:34name? The business name thing only
- 7:36comes up at the end when people are ready to pay and we need
- 7:38account details and things like that.
- 7:40So the business name thing just hasn't come up.
- 7:43Like a dude, your business name sucks, it's killing the
- 7:45business. Or guy, your business name
- 7:48rocks, it's promoting the business.
- 7:49So that just hasn't even come up now.
- 7:51Hope you guys are going to get the sense of why I hold the
- 7:54ideas that I do that some of you are spending too much name on
- 7:56the business name because there are some of you that spend 3-4
- 7:59months, you haven't started just because you want the right
- 8:02business name so that you can meet the lawyer and handle the
- 8:04incorporation with the CAC as a corporate affairs Commission and
- 8:07then all that. You're wasting too much time.
- 8:09So in my own case, I just picked any name ABC, not bad.
- 8:14Aberdeen Business Consulting. What is this podcast going to be
- 8:17about? I'm talking about sales to
- 8:19people who don't bother about sales, which are people in the
- 8:22wedding and the event space. Because in the wedding and the
- 8:25event space, people are much more concerned about brand.
- 8:27They're more concerned about positioning, packaging, what
- 8:33else? Much more aspirational ideas.
- 8:35So I figured I'd start talking to that audience.
- 8:36And the podcast was just titled sales for the Nigerian Wedding
- 8:41industry or for the Nigerian wedding professional or wedding
- 8:43person. I can't remember what it was
- 8:45called because that was a long time ago.
- 8:47And now that I've made a transition, guess what the name
- 8:50is also that basic it is now sales for the Nigerian business
- 8:53person. I mean, how basic can it get?
- 8:55How practical can it get? How lazy can it get?
- 8:57But The thing is, I just need a name and I need to get going
- 9:01because the most important thing is let's get traction.
- 9:03Let this train start moving. Doesn't really matter what it's
- 9:05called. Of course, in this sense, I was
- 9:09picking a name that would signal exactly what the show is about.
- 9:13For those of you who are interested in podcasting as a
- 9:16content marketing strategy, we can make future episodes about
- 9:19that, but I hope you guys see that.
- 9:21The most important thing for me, making the switch as in folks
- 9:24who know me for close to 10 years being a wedding
- 9:26photographer, I don't want to do that anymore.
- 9:29I now want to be considered as a business consultant because of
- 9:32the experiences that I've gotten as a wedding photographer, also
- 9:36in building the family business with my brother, my previous
- 9:38experience working as admin in civil service and also as being
- 9:44paralegal and then working as a law firm.
- 9:47So I'm trying to make the switch.
- 9:48I just need a simple name to get the show on the road and that's
- 9:52what I did. So the most important thing at
- 9:54that stage, me trying to switch was not business name because of
- 9:57some of you that will think what business name can I come up
- 10:01with? I'm about to become a
- 10:02consultant. I need something cool, I need
- 10:04something fancy, I need something aspirational.
- 10:07I need something to signal to the market the kind of cutting
- 10:10edge business consulting that we're going to do.
- 10:12And you know, and you just waste weeks and weeks and weeks on
- 10:15these things. Just pick a name and go because
- 10:19most what I think at this stage is not your business name, but
- 10:21you have to validate the business idea.
- 10:23And in my own case, the business idea was this.
- 10:27Can I use podcasting as a tool for lead generation?
- 10:31Can I use podcasting as a tool for demand create creation?
- 10:35Can I use podcasting as a tool to cut myself out as a
- 10:39specialist within the business consulting space?
- 10:43Can I use podcasting as a tool to find customers as a business
- 10:46consultant? That was the primary question I
- 10:48needed to answer and so I didn't waste time on the name.
- 10:51I picked the most basic names for my show, although I just
- 10:55used common sense because I wanted the names to signal
- 10:57something for the podcast. I want people to see the name of
- 11:00the podcast and then know exactly what it is about.
- 11:03That's why I didn't call it the Tavishima Show or something like
- 11:06that. Because I mean, who knows?
- 11:08Nobody knows Tavishima. Well, some of you who listen to
- 11:11the show, you know who I am. But as a whole, I don't have
- 11:14that kind of brand yet. So who knows 20 years from now
- 11:17when I'm a big established name like Brian Tracy, yes, I can
- 11:20call it the Tavishima you did show and then people will
- 11:22TuneIn, but after then just some simple basic common name.
- 11:25So the most important thing was for me to validate this idea.
- 11:28Can podcasting work? And then to get going, do people
- 11:31want business content? Those are the primary questions
- 11:33I was trying to answer. So I hit the show on the road
- 11:35and I came up with some basic names and I moved.
- 11:38That's the reason why I give the advice the way that I do.
- 11:42You have this interesting idea. You think it's going to work.
- 11:44The most important thing is validation of the idea.
- 11:47Pick a name, any name, use common sense and move.
- 11:52You don't have to come up with the perfect idea in January and
- 11:55then do incorporation in March or April.
- 11:58Doesn't make sense. If the idea comes to you January
- 12:011st, it's already like January 10th or January 11th.
- 12:05What are you waiting for? Pick a name and move.
- 12:09Now the next thing, branding is not important.
- 12:13And well, for the same reason I say branding is not important
- 12:18for the same reason. It's because, well, First off,
- 12:24you don't know enough of your ICP, your ideal customer, your
- 12:28ideal customer profile, the people you want to vibe with,
- 12:31the market you want to enter. Most folks are not that
- 12:35sophisticated to have a good grip on what the ICP is at the
- 12:39beginning. So it makes sense to just go
- 12:42into the market, validate the idea.
- 12:44As you're interacting with people, you're going to get a
- 12:45clearer sense of who your audience base is and that will
- 12:49determine how it is that you brand and position in future.
- 12:53Some of you want to start off with the perfect brand, but it
- 12:55doesn't work that way. Coca-Cola has the perfect brand,
- 12:58Facebook, Google, all these people, but they didn't start
- 13:02with the perfect brand. They started from something
- 13:05crude and something simple. Facebook used to be the face
- 13:09something and then they dropped the the V in it and it was face
- 13:13whatever. And today it's now Facebook and
- 13:16then they've changed to Meta. I hope you guys see where I'm
- 13:19heading with all this. And their branding has changed
- 13:21accordingly, although the blue in their colours has remained
- 13:24fairly constant. And that's just what I mean.
- 13:29Like you don't know enough. So just begin as you're mixing
- 13:33with people, mixing with potential customers, mixing with
- 13:36stakeholders, with investors, you get a clear sense of, OK,
- 13:39this is what I'm trying to build, this is how people are
- 13:42perceiving it. And that is what is going to
- 13:44determine all the branding choices that you need to make
- 13:46about logos, fonts and colours and things like that.
- 13:50Now let me give you an another example, my business experience.
- 13:54Now, I started off this thing talking to wedding
- 13:58professionals, wedding and event professionals.
- 14:00Now by default, my intended target audience was female, was
- 14:05female for a number of reasons. In the event space, it has loads
- 14:09of females there. So the photographers are mostly
- 14:11guys, but there's some women, the planners are mostly women.
- 14:16What else? Decor mostly women, makeup,
- 14:18mostly women is largely female led.
- 14:21And then apart from that being that I, I'm the first son of a
- 14:26single mom. Well, not really a single mom
- 14:28per say. Like my mom raised me and my
- 14:32siblings from about when I was 12/13.
- 14:35She did a solo on her own. So one of those whose family
- 14:37convinced that when you educate a woman or when you move or look
- 14:41a woman along the path of self empowerment, entrepreneurship,
- 14:44career development, all those sorts of things, you impact
- 14:48generations to come as in you impact families.
- 14:50Now, I'm not saying we shouldn't pay attention to men.
- 14:52I'm just saying that this is the reason why I'm interested in
- 14:55women, especially when it comes to business education.
- 14:59But unfortunately, my goal is I want to talk to women and I
- 15:06might have started off my business consulting journey
- 15:09trying to talk to women, but no matter what I do, over 70% of my
- 15:14audience is male. So can you see how if I had
- 15:18tried to finalize my branding at the beginning of my journey with
- 15:22plenty of pink and plenty of cursive and you know, stuff like
- 15:25that because I'm trying to appeal to women.
- 15:27Can you see how it would have been off and started creating
- 15:29some sort of dissonance? Because no matter what I do,
- 15:33over 70% of my audience is male. This is now going to inform the
- 15:38future decisions that I'm going to make around brand color
- 15:40around theme, around eye project into the market and things like
- 15:44that. Now when I hire a brand
- 15:46specialist, these are the sorts of things that the brand
- 15:48specialist wants to know. Not just who do I want to talk
- 15:51to, but who are the people that are actually buying from me, who
- 15:53am I doing business with, who are my audience, blah, blah,
- 15:56blah. I will be able to come up with
- 15:59strong propositions around brand, but that's because I've
- 16:02done a couple years into this thing.
- 16:04I have 870 episodes on the podcast, so I've been doing this
- 16:08for a couple of years. I have some data.
- 16:10We'll be able to sit down and have constructive conversations
- 16:13and come up with a brand document and a brand strategy
- 16:16and then we'll execute. But some of you are starting
- 16:18from day one and you want to set this thing up perfectly.
- 16:20It doesn't work that way. And for people who did, because
- 16:23there are some businesses who started perfectly and you know,
- 16:25whatever, it doesn't happen that way for most people.
- 16:28So stop aiming for this whole exceptional thing from day one.
- 16:33The branding is not that important.
- 16:34Just begin validate this idea. As you're interacting with
- 16:36people, you will now get a sense of what your brand is, what it
- 16:39could be, how you're perceived, how do you want people to
- 16:42perceive you? And by the time you have enough
- 16:45money to hire, especially if you guys are smoothing all those
- 16:47things out. So for now, not having a brand
- 16:49has not been hurting my business because there's nobody that has
- 16:52said your brand colours are off your logos are off, your
- 16:55whatever. Because honestly that those
- 16:59they, it just doesn't come up. I have always used the default
- 17:02options in Canva. My first logo, I just used
- 17:04Canva. So I just used the default on
- 17:07the template that I liked. And the current logo imaging
- 17:13that you see right now is something that I designed on
- 17:20chart. No, not chart GPT.
- 17:21What was it? Chart GPTI can't remember what
- 17:23was Chart GPT or Bing, but basically I just put in into the
- 17:29prompt. I said design A.
- 17:34What did I say? I can't remember, but something
- 17:36like design AA cover art for my podcast and blah blah blah.
- 17:44I didn't even give it. I didn't even give it color
- 17:49choices. But I wanted sales and marketing
- 17:52to be in the final image because I wanted people to see 'cause
- 17:56remember I was just using common sense.
- 17:58I want to be able to see the common the, the cover image.
- 18:00I know exactly what the show is about.
- 18:02South Sales and marketing and then black.
- 18:05It spit out four options. Yes, it was, it was Bing, Bing
- 18:10that I used and Bing incorporates Mchat, GBT.
- 18:14It spit out four options. And what you have here on the
- 18:16podcast is just the one that I like the most and that's it.
- 18:21And I am running with it. When I am ready to start taking
- 18:25branding seriously and I have a bit of money and I want to hire
- 18:27a brand specialist, we will now be able to start having
- 18:30constructive conversations. I actually would like to speak
- 18:33more to women, but currently I'm over 70% male.
- 18:37This is the age range, blah, blah, blah.
- 18:39These are the clients that I've worked with.
- 18:40And you know, they'll ask me all those questions.
- 18:43I'll be able to come up with a brand strategy and then execute
- 18:45accordingly. But in the beginning, for me to
- 18:48sit down and think all these things, I would have just been
- 18:50wasting too much time because here's how it works.
- 18:52You have a bit of money, you want to hire a brand consultant
- 18:57or something. So you look through Instagram
- 18:59'cause you want to find a couple of people not looking through
- 19:01Instagram. That's like two weeks gone
- 19:03already, 'cause you look through Instagram and then you have some
- 19:05other things to do. You get a bunch of people.
- 19:09Then you send out a bunch of DMS.
- 19:11Most Nigerian business people are really poor and non
- 19:14responsive, so lots of them will not respond.
- 19:17So you talk to a few people, you don't find anybody you like.
- 19:20You know, that's another two weeks that you have to invest in
- 19:22the whole thing. But bottom line is you can see
- 19:24how because of business name and branding, you get your business
- 19:28idea January 1st and then it is now February 20.
- 19:33Something you have not started just because no more you don't
- 19:36have the perfect name #2 you haven't found a brand person or
- 19:41a designer or whatever that can help you put together all these
- 19:45things that are that you think are important before you begin.
- 19:49Then let's move on to Idea Protection.
- 19:52Especially since I've done 20 minutes and I'm not even halfway
- 19:55through my rant. I guess you can call this
- 19:57podcast episode of Rant then Idea Protection.
- 20:00So I had to include in the list because there are a couple of
- 20:06you who have your ideas. You think that your business
- 20:08idea is the best thing since sliced bread.
- 20:11Because of that, you do not want to go out into the market
- 20:14prematurely because you're worried about copycats, people
- 20:17who steal your trademark and steal your business idea and so.
- 20:21You're spending a lot of time talking to lawyers.
- 20:23How can I trademark this? What can I patent?
- 20:25What is eligible for which part of intellectual property
- 20:28protection and or what not? Now, of course, if you've been
- 20:32following my own argument is it's not really the idea, the
- 20:38idea per SE that is valuable, but it's how you execute on the
- 20:42business idea that is going to give you that business mode or
- 20:46that business protection. So excuse me.
- 20:49So if you execute well, then good for you.
- 20:55You execute poorly, then bad for you.
- 20:58Now let's take it back to my own experience so far.
- 21:01We're trying to transition from being a wedding photographer to
- 21:03a business consultant. So currently about 800 and OK,
- 21:09well, I know for sure it's over 869.
- 21:12Let me just leave it at that because last time I checked was
- 21:14869. So let me not say it's 870, so
- 21:16869 episodes. And I was much more worried
- 21:23about how I execute the idea and how content marketing and
- 21:26podcasting was going to give me credibility and competency if I
- 21:31was worried about somebody copying this my valuable idea.
- 21:35Because at the time, I was the only sales and marketing
- 21:41exclusively sales and marketing show in the event and wedding
- 21:46space in Nigeria. Because I got reached out to
- 21:50other publications in this space who wanted to interview me and
- 21:53things like that. So there are a bunch of people
- 21:55who were podcasting about these sorts of things, but they were
- 21:57mostly doing it from a technical or from an artistic point of
- 22:00view. So, you know, wedding
- 22:02photography, this is how you take the perfect wedding photo,
- 22:05blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, all those sorts of
- 22:06things are not a show that was dedicated exclusively to if
- 22:10you're a wedding photographer or you're a wedding planner, this
- 22:13is how you look for clients, this is how you negotiate, this
- 22:15is how you close the deal and all that.
- 22:17So if I was worried about protecting this, my precious
- 22:21idea, especially since at the time was completely novel, there
- 22:24was none in the space. I haven't checked.
- 22:26I don't know if there's any other person that has a reason
- 22:29to take the space that I have left because I've left the
- 22:31wedding and the event space. Then of course, you know how
- 22:34these things go. You know, I'm worried about
- 22:39trademark protection. Then the whole thing just gives
- 22:42a certain kind of hesitancy and you don't really start.
- 22:45But then I figured that, look, how I execute is going to be the
- 22:48main thing. And I didn't want my execution
- 22:51to be built around high end production value, which is the
- 22:54reason why you can hear cars in the background and you can hear
- 22:56my children far enough in the background because I focus more
- 23:01on having valuable business content.
- 23:02And I want that to be my competitive mode.
- 23:05I want that to be my edge that on this show you hear things
- 23:09that other people don't talk about.
- 23:11So that's why I'm well, I record sore throat, I record cow in the
- 23:16background. I record cars driving by, I
- 23:18record. So excuse me, like now, runny
- 23:21nose. I still record because I'm
- 23:23focusing on the execution and and the business idea.
- 23:26So I also knew that most people are going to give up because
- 23:31most people, most people start. And in summary, I just had a
- 23:37hunch that most people are going to give up because there have
- 23:39been other people in the podcasting space.
- 23:41So it it's not my business idea that has let me be successful
- 23:45per SE, but me executing on it because rest assured, I am not
- 23:49the first person to come up with an idea that you're going to use
- 23:52content marketing to promote yourself as a business
- 23:54consultant. I am not the first Nigerian to
- 23:56think of that. I'm not the first Nigerian to
- 23:59think of that in the wedding space or in the general space.
- 24:02I am just the only one who has persevered for this long, which
- 24:07is why you know my show and you're listening to this show.
- 24:10And if I ask you for two or three other shows, yes, maybe
- 24:13you might be able to name one or two.
- 24:15The reason why you can name two or three of us tops, is because
- 24:18we are the only ones who have persevered, not because we came
- 24:20up with the idea, not because we are the best.
- 24:23So idea protection. Should I have come up with a
- 24:30trademark and registered it and all of that?
- 24:35Yeah, maybe in some ideal world, but I just wanted to execute and
- 24:39execute well. And today I'm 869 episodes in
- 24:43and people think I'm credible and I'm competent because of
- 24:45longevity. Or is it longevity and have
- 24:49executed on that? Now people can copy me,
- 24:52definitely. And I know one person who has
- 24:54tried. But The thing is podcasting is
- 24:56hard. So the person tried and the
- 24:58person has given up. So the fact that I've executed
- 25:02in itself is what gives me my protective mode.
- 25:05If anybody wants to copy me, actually I'm 869 episodes ahead
- 25:10in this particular strategy of using podcasting as content
- 25:14marketing to transition from 1 area of speciality into another.
- 25:18So that in itself, the execution itself is providing the
- 25:21protective mode. But listen to the podcast
- 25:24episode about idea protection and you gain a much more nuanced
- 25:29idea because for those of you who are in the tech space, you
- 25:31know, you're trying to build a fintech, things like that.
- 25:33Yes, IP protection is absolutely, absolutely
- 25:38important, except if you're building your thing on what's it
- 25:40called open source, you know, technology or code that is
- 25:43available to to everyone. Then the whole thing of business
- 25:48idea, sorry, excuse me, the whole thing of a business idea
- 25:51that sells itself. How would I put it?
- 25:59OK, well that episode was straightforward enough.
- 26:00So let me not belabor the point. There's no business that sells
- 26:02yourself. Human beings will always be
- 26:04involved in promoting the business.
- 26:06But I made the mistake earlier on thinking that my idea was so
- 26:09good, was so fancy, was so nice, was so wow, was so ground
- 26:13breaking that people would just rush that I'll put this content
- 26:16on and people would rush because when I started, there was some
- 26:18podcasts around. There was this Nigerian and tech
- 26:24tech something. Then those Nigerian politics
- 26:26weekly show, there was also all you guys see that I'm talking
- 26:31about podcasting in the Nigerian context now, not in
- 26:33international, not in international sense.
- 26:37Then there was also I said what I said, they said what I said
- 26:40podcast real brilliant. Cause those girls, Jola and I
- 26:44can't remember the other person's name.
- 26:46It's a it's a, it's a gossip show.
- 26:48It's a gist show was real nice. There's also what else, the
- 26:55honest bunch that's Chinedu, Nedu, Wasobia and three other Co
- 27:03hosts. But anyway, you get what I'm
- 27:05trying to hint at. Nigerian shows were there and
- 27:09already beginning to pop off and people were paying attention to
- 27:11them. But very few people are talking
- 27:13about business. Of course the Nigerian tech is
- 27:16it tech crunch or tech something?
- 27:17They're there and they're talking about business.
- 27:20But it's business. It's it's tech.
- 27:22It's not talking too wedding professionals, which is what I
- 27:26wanted to do at the time. And now that I've gone beyond
- 27:28wedding professionals, they're not talking to all other
- 27:30Nigerians. Whether you sell catfish or
- 27:32whether you have a fintech or whether you want to sell cement
- 27:35or cement blocks. So I just assume that it will be
- 27:39obvious. There's a business show, people
- 27:41will just flock to it. But boy did I receive a rude
- 27:44awakening. I podcasted for about 3 years
- 27:48and I was only able to get 5000 downloads.
- 27:50Three years and I only got 5, 1000 downloads.
- 27:55And then I thought about it and so excuse me, so I thought about
- 28:02it and I decided to start promoting over on LinkedIn
- 28:06initially and then in six months I was able to go from 5000
- 28:10downloads to 12,000 downloads. Or you guys are getting the the
- 28:16jump Three years. I said let me just put it out.
- 28:18People will love it. They will rush it.
- 28:21After three years, only 5000, I promoted for six months.
- 28:25They went from 5000 to 12,000. Currently were over just over
- 28:3215,000 downloads. So I'm sure you guys can see
- 28:37that. It's just something I've started
- 28:38doing recently. The promotion, since I haven't
- 28:40always promoted because the first three years, let's say 3
- 28:441/2, four years, I didn't promote nothing.
- 28:46I didn't promote Shishi. I just make it.
- 28:48I just put it up. If you see it, you see it.
- 28:49If you don't see it, you don't see it.
- 28:51But now that I'm started promoting, there's growth in the
- 28:54podcast and there's also growth in the number of enquiries that
- 28:57I'm receiving now on a monthly basis.
- 28:59You know, people who want me to look into this, consult on this,
- 29:02provide training for that and things of that nature.
- 29:05So don't expect that you're going to do something and people
- 29:08will just find it because you're the greatest thing since sliced
- 29:10bread. There's no business idea that
- 29:12sells itself. There's no endeavour that sells
- 29:13itself. You have to sell or promote it
- 29:16somehow, no matter how well, no matter how poorly, because there
- 29:20are some people who see my promotions on LinkedIn, you
- 29:24know, my friends who mean well, they hit me up and say, hey, oh
- 29:26boy, I noticed that you're only doing this.
- 29:28How about you do it this way? How about you design this?
- 29:30How about you do this? How about you do that?
- 29:32That would be more effective. So yes, there could be much more
- 29:34effective ways for me promoting my business podcast.
- 29:37Let's assume that I'm doing it the poorest way possible, but
- 29:39with the poorest way possible, in under a year, I have more
- 29:43than tripled the growth of my podcast because I'm doing some
- 29:48sort of promotions. Now, if I listen to my friends
- 29:51who have media backgrounds, 'cause, you know, start off as a
- 29:54photographer, you end up knowing lots of photographers,
- 29:56designers, brand people, you know, stuff like that.
- 29:59So if I listen to them, yeah, I guess you could even go higher.
- 30:04But there's no podcast that will sell itself.
- 30:06There's no business that will sell itself.
- 30:09It just doesn't happen. So get in, stop promoting, stop,
- 30:15stop dreaming. It happens to some people,
- 30:17doesn't happen to everyone. And anyway, yeah, let me see,
- 30:23let me check my notes, let me skim through because we already
- 30:26have enough time. OK, so business, business is a
- 30:29team sport. If you listen to that episode,
- 30:31you get all the the context about what it is.
- 30:36I was trying to stress there. Well, basically what I was just
- 30:38trying to say is that there's no business.
- 30:41Some of you want to be solo, this solo premier solo, this
- 30:43self-made, this self-made whatever.
- 30:46There's nobody that is self-made.
- 30:48There's nobody that is solo whatever.
- 30:49We always have a team around us. And I gave one or two examples
- 30:52in that episode and this podcast is going to be another example.
- 30:57So for the podcast, the production is the production is
- 31:02solo because I I decide which questions are useful because I
- 31:09receive questions from people or at speaking events.
- 31:13So I decide which of the questions are useful.
- 31:16I decide how we're going to flow from one idea to the other.
- 31:22I do the actual recording. I don't do any editing,
- 31:26precisely because I don't want to be burdened with any extra
- 31:28work that would stop me from putting out episodes.
- 31:31So it's been a solo affair for now, or so it seems.
- 31:36But actually over the years I've worked with a number of
- 31:38collaborators. I've worked with a couple of
- 31:40distributors. There was one episode that was
- 31:42Co produced by Nene Batubo. She's a Canadian business
- 31:47communications specialist, Nigerian born of course, I and
- 31:50the family, they're over there now.
- 31:53They left a long time ago. So I don't think we can call
- 31:55them part of the jackpot phenomenon that is happening.
- 31:59And I've also had wonderful collaborators on Business Inside
- 32:03episodes. The one I did with Alexia
- 32:04Horsforth on, she's the makeup and beauty specialist.
- 32:09She also has a brand that is selling a bit Nigerian in the in
- 32:13Nigerians in diaspora, diaspora, so Canada, UK, then at DME at
- 32:17DBC that I went to school with those into branding and
- 32:21merchandising. She's still back there in
- 32:22Aberdeen. Some of us.
- 32:24We finished graduating and left. Then Kelly, an event planner I
- 32:28would have loved to work with, never got to work with her and
- 32:30her partner during my some of those episodes.
- 32:33Then excuse me. Then there's also my mentee,
- 32:39Remi Leko Muyeko, who made a couple of episodes dedicated to
- 32:44her. You know, the conversations that
- 32:45we had over selling with LinkedIn, 'cause she reached out
- 32:48to me over on LinkedIn, we had some conversations.
- 32:50I figured there'll be good enough podcast episodes to share
- 32:53over here. So what she does is whatever I
- 32:57I'm speaking at business conferences and things like that
- 33:00because some conference people mandate that you must have
- 33:03slides. Now, if you've been listening to
- 33:04the show for a while, you know that I do not like slides.
- 33:08So when I meet people who say you must have slides and they
- 33:11must be in this format and they must be ready by social and so
- 33:14date, it's an absolute headache. But how do I get that done?
- 33:17I just simply call Remy Lekum because she likes that kind of
- 33:20thing. And we have a mentor managing
- 33:21relationship. So she's the one who hooks me up
- 33:25with all my presentation. Sorry, my presentation.
- 33:28I'm collateral, so it looks like this is a sole effort and most
- 33:31of the times it might be. But have you noticed how my
- 33:34collaborators? I have, I've been, I've had
- 33:36collaborators over the years. Of course, it's my support
- 33:40staff, you know, well, not my support staff, but you know,
- 33:43people who provide support, you know, like my wife who keeps me
- 33:47going because like I said, podcasting is it's hard.
- 33:49It's hard to hop on the mic multiple times a week, you know,
- 33:543-4 times a week. I keep doing that for 4-5 years
- 33:57straight. It's not easy, especially since
- 33:59in the early days when you're making the switch, it's not as
- 34:02if business income is coming indirectly from the podcast.
- 34:07So yeah, it might look like it's a solo thing, but I've had a
- 34:12team of people, a team of people around me.
- 34:17Oh, by the way, another theme that I mentioned earlier in the
- 34:21podcast, if you notice how my support system has been female
- 34:25and I've told you that it's been deliberate because my goal
- 34:28actually from day one was actually to have more women
- 34:31listening to the show, more women paying attention to
- 34:34business content because of the outsized consequences, the
- 34:39benefits that you get when you involve women in career
- 34:43development, entrepreneurship, personal development, all these
- 34:45sorts of things. One of the reasons why I'm
- 34:48trying to reach out to more women is because of my personal
- 34:51experience here with Mom C raising the five of us.
- 34:53Also because in today's work environment, there's plenty of
- 34:56blasting of patriarchy. And I really don't think
- 34:59patriarchy is the default limiting criteria that women
- 35:03think it is. Yes, patriarchy in quote.
- 35:06First of all, people define patriarchy wrong, but that's the
- 35:10that's the topic for another podcast episode.
- 35:13So yeah, patriarchy makes things a whole lot difficult, but
- 35:16they're much more important. People do stuff that women need
- 35:19if you want to move things forward.
- 35:21So yes, you can say that my mom faced patriarchy in quote while
- 35:25she was trying to raise her five kids when she was fresh in
- 35:27Lagos. But there are a couple of things
- 35:30that were important for her business and career success.
- 35:32And there are some of the things that I talk about on the show
- 35:35because I have seen it, I have lived it, and some of those
- 35:38things that I have seen and lived are things that I'm also
- 35:41trying to apply in my Business Today.
- 35:43So men need to know it, women need to know it, but I think
- 35:45especially now that we're trying to be all woke and bog
- 35:49patriarchy and trying to storm the Fort, there are a couple of
- 35:52things that women need to hear. And that's why from day one, my
- 35:55focus has always been to get more women listening to the
- 35:58show. So summary, all these things,
- 36:02business, name branding, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, They're
- 36:04not as important as you think. So start spending four weeks, 8
- 36:07weeks, 12 weeks thinking about these sorts of things.
- 36:09Just pick a lane and start and validate the idea.
- 36:13Is the thing working? Put more kerosene behind it, put
- 36:15more fuel behind it. Get things moving as you move
- 36:18your thing along. If the business name doesn't
- 36:20make sense, you will change it. If the branding doesn't make
- 36:23sense, you will change it. But most important thing is
- 36:26start and please validate your business idea and then summary.
- 36:31Oh well OK, I can't say summary twice, but bottom line is this.
- 36:35I've been begging from day one and I'm begging again.
- 36:38Please women listening to the show, maybe I need to change my
- 36:43approach. Be less forceful.
- 36:46I don't know, sound nicer or use more production value?
- 36:52Maybe women prefer podcasting material to be perfect or
- 36:56something. Well, I guess I'm not just
- 36:57talking about things that women think they should be listening
- 37:01to, but I really think more women should listen to this.
- 37:03So if you're a lady, listen to this podcast, please share with
- 37:06your friends. I don't care if they end up
- 37:10booking me to be a coach or a consultant.
- 37:12We just need to spread that gospel because it's important
- 37:21and also because baby girls don't build strong businesses,
- 37:27strong women. Sorry, baby girls don't build
- 37:29strong families In the beginning, yes, my mum and I
- 37:32have been a baby girl because of course she was the first
- 37:34daughter. So when she was born it was only
- 37:35we have a girl and everybody's happy.
- 37:38But baby girls, princesses, you know, we don't build, they don't
- 37:40build strong societies. They don't build strong
- 37:42families, strong women who do, and women actually need to learn
- 37:46some of the things that we talk about over here on the podcast.
- 37:49So, yeah, it's 40 minutes, so let me bring this to a close.
- 37:52So naming, branding, IP protection, all those sorts of
- 37:56things, they are not the primary things that are going to grow
- 38:00your business. These are secondary concerns
- 38:03that you can deal with over time.
- 38:06The core thing that we need to worry about now is to make sure
- 38:10that your main business idea, your core business idea
- 38:12validated. Is that thing working good?
- 38:15Make progress on that and you'll be fine.
- 38:18So connect with me on WhatsApp, the number is 08064662140.
- 38:24Country code is +234. For those of you who are not
- 38:27Nigerian and connect with me on LinkedIn, my name is Tabashima
- 38:31Ayede. I'm the host of the show.
- 38:33You can confirm the spelling of my name and my e-mail address
- 38:35from the link. We are currently listening to
- 38:38this episode. Thank you very much for your
- 38:40time and attention. And if you think you know any
- 38:42woman who might benefit from this podcast episode, please let
- 38:47her know. If your cousin is a female
- 38:49cousin is about to start off in business.
- 38:51She wants to be a cake person or she wants to rear chickens or
- 38:54she wants to whatever. You think she has spent too much
- 38:56time thinking about the perfect business name or coming up with
- 38:59the perfect chicken logo that looks nice enough or humane
- 39:02enough or whatever. If you think she's spending too
- 39:05much time in all this other stuff, please give her this
- 39:07podcast episode. Let her listen.
- 39:10Let her eyes be opened that these things that are holding
- 39:12her back don't necessarily have to be the source of things that
- 39:15are holding her back. And it's been 14 minutes, so let
- 39:17me just disappear. I'll catch you guys at the next
- 39:19episode.