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Decoding Wellness: Data's Role in Health with Thoryn Stephens |311 · Bomb Life

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[SPEAKER_00]: insert nutrition, you know, number one, of course exercise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sleep, you know, we talk a lot about cognition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're not getting the appropriate amount of sleep and the right kind of sleep, then you're just not going to be noologically active.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So people come to us all the time, they're like, hey, what's the secret, you know, solution pill protocol?
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[SPEAKER_00]: and you have to start with these basics essentially.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then also to point around measurement measuring your sleep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's the first thing that we recommend, whether it's a wearable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have to sleep eight out mattress now that measures are HRVE through the mattress.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's pretty crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you don't even need a wearable to put your head in these things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so pretty incredible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Bond Life Podcast where fitness, vines, and real talk collide.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is it just about workouts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's about transforming your body, mind, and life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Get ready for unfiltered conversations, expert advice, and the motivation you need to level up in every way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey everyone, welcome to the Bum Life Podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am Melissa Vogel, you're host.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Today's episode, it's gonna open your eyes to a few things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking all about human behavior, the brain, AI, a little bit of dementia, the importance of human contact, like it's so many things that's gonna wake you up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a powerful episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are in the middle of February right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And soon, we're going to be out of the month, the second month of 2020, and I want everyone right now to just kind of take a moment in pause and just see where you're at with your relationships.
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[SPEAKER_01]: how's it going with your food, with your connections, with your workouts, with walking, do you have that ability to even get out and walk right now because of the weather or your gym or whatever, but just movement of your body, just kind of do like a little assessment and also your environment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: are you just going to work every day and communicating with the people that you work with clients, whatever in your boss and coming home and maybe you just spend time with your dog or just your significant other or maybe that's not even the greatest, but really look at your environment and who you have in your tribe that you're talking to daily right now daily.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this the environment?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this the life?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this, are you living a daily protocol that suits you to help you get better?
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[SPEAKER_01]: To help you move forward to help you advance and I just want you to kind of recap before we go into the next month.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and I want you to really take a look at how everything is set up right now in your life and your design and ask yourself if you're okay with that and I know this is a hard question and I know people are like just get to the episode and we'll just stop for Kentucky right now but I want you to just kind of pause and some of you might answer and go yeah I'm really happy with the way things are going right now this is like this is good I am on a great path and then
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't I actually don't want to think about this right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She can shut up right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to think about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just I want you to take a moment, Syria, and try to be brutally honest with yourself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there are areas in my life when I stop and I do the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I pause and I just take a moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, no, I have got to fix part of my night routine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have got to fix part of my morning routine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's things where I need to change and focus on more at the gym on weeks that I can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when I'm honest with myself, there are tweaks and adjustments that need to happen and I don't want to carry them into another month because if you carry them into another month It will turn into three or four months and then it's six and before I know it I have habits routines micro habits that have stacked upon each other that are not serving me
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[SPEAKER_01]: So do me a favor and just think about this for a moment, let your brain kind of keep thinking about this as we're diving into this episode and be brutally honest with yourself with like what areas am I able to control on my own and what areas do I need help?
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[SPEAKER_01]: one of our episodes, I think it was just last week, it could have been last week's episode of the week before we talked so much about how important it is to get help that you don't have to do certain things alone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It takes a try, it takes a try to raise kids and your family and all of that, but you know what, it takes a try to help yourself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and I really want you to think about this and what do you have in place, what is your environment in place to help you thrive?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you need to bring on extra help to help you take the next steps forward?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because if we're all being, you know, real with ourselves?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to ask the questions, do I know how to do this on my own?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there are areas of my life where right now I'm going, no, I don't, and I need help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I need help pushing through this, whether that is with the coach, with a therapist, with a certain therapist like for my back and PT and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really smart and odd areas, this area, no, and I can't do it on myself, and I need help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So think about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, I'm going to tell you to go to the show notes, duh, and book
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a one-on-one discussion with me is what's needed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we just go back and forth an email.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I am here to help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here to help guide you in the right direction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I am not your person, I will tell you if what I do is not a fit, I will tell you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you will not know until you have the discussion, you will not know what direction to go in unless you get real with yourself, and you have a real conversation with yourself and sit here and think like, okay, what am I doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Am I doing the same shit again saying that I was getting create change?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And here I'm not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, when is enough enough?
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[SPEAKER_01]: When are you going to break that pattern in that habit?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, I just gotta add this in here if you are not resistance training just about every single day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, not every day, but like if you don't have resistance training as a major staple of your life, what are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is going on you have got to pick up heavy shit and put it down nearly every single day and if that's not happening in a structured way like what is going on and I just had to bring up muscle because that is so important and it is lacking in so many people's lives and then they say well I don't have time for it
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh I'm moving up for work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bullshit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely bullshit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that, my friends, is something that needs to happen in your daily protocol.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is something that needs to change and adjust in your habits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what we're talking about today with Thor and Stephens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is a scientist, data visionary, and keynote speaker pioneering in the space where adaptive, eight AI,
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[SPEAKER_01]: human behavior and biology intersect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is just the coolest conversation ever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is the founder and CEO of Brain One and he's advancing on AI Power Platform and it turns research into real world health protocols.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The protocols that we're talking about right now that need to be in place and he's helping people think sharper, age, slower, perform at their peak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a former molecular biologist and a data scientist in Thor and Spent two decades driving digital transformation and predictive analytics for global leaders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And today his work fuses neuroscience, behavior designs, and AI to pioneer a new model of prevention first measurable and scalable human optimization.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a conversation that flows, gives you the information, it's educational, and it's real talk about real things that we need to be concerned about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe brain one, I don't know, maybe it's a fit for you, but you won't know until you check it out and first you hear this conversation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, everyone, right in review this podcast, Leave Five Stars of Phil Propriet, Leave a Review.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does huge things that's like leaving a huge tip in my tip jar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone enjoy the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey everyone, welcome to the Bomb Life podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Today we have Thoren Stevens on welcome to the show Thoren.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you Melissa, so excited to be here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like already sweating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys we've already been talking before I hit record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, like, let's go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so excited for this conversation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you are a scientist, a data visionary, a speaker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're bringing the world of like AI, human behavior, biology, like all together for like peak human performance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who the hell is doing
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's very much a passion and inherent in who I am as a human.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I started off always interested in science and that was really my trajectory at an early age and research and then going from there into peak performance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the threat was always measurement and how do you measure and then optimize a system?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a viewer, a human, whatever might be so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm always talking about measurement with my clients like, oh, this is my goal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How can we track that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How can we measure this to make sure that you're actually freaking hitting it because it's not like we're just doing this blind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and those humans are, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like how many of our friends are on peptides or supplements?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you really have no idea if they're working.
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[SPEAKER_00]: GLP1 is a little bit more linear because at least you have weight loss, but, you know, for the majority, they don't necessarily know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a part one thing that we're trying to help support is through brain one is the ability to measure multiple inputs from biometrics biomatchrics biomarkers and so forth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so back up, how did you get into this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because this isn't where you started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't she just to work in was it drug development?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Am I getting there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so began my career in biotechnology.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was doing some all drug therapeutics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was a bench nerd synthesizing essentially DNA, so we're a part of I was molecular biologist part of the genomics team and it was right when the human genome was first sequenced and this is early 2000s and I was like, oh, we're going to unlock all the secrets of
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[SPEAKER_00]: human drug development and discovery and it was totally not true because we were just beginning to also understand what's called a proteome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, the expression of your DNA to RNA to proteins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in between you have the epigenome or epigenetics and then you have the concept of a transcriptome, which is all of your RNA transcripts, essentially.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was like this amazing moment in time where we began to realize like your DNA is a blueprint, but it's not necessarily what's going to be expressed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's kind of the world I play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now it's behavior change and ultimately your gene expression, which you do control to an extent, basically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you just did a real on this and I was like, oh my god, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you were talking about how like 75% of your gene expression is based on environment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh my god, we have to dive into that because people, again, they don't realize who you surround yourself with, who you turn to on a daily basis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that whole saying of like, you are the sum of the top five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People you spend around 100.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, oh my god, let me first qualify.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not quite 75, but it depends on the tissue and it depends on the specific gene.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, there's averages here, but let's say even if it's at 50%.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That alone is amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So 50% of your DNA, your gene expression is based on exactly as you just said, and I completely agree, you know, you are as a human and artifact exactly of who you surround yourself with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I completely believe with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then further, the things that you do, and so a big piece of brain one, is the concept of your daily routine and your daily health protocol.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that can be anything, ultimately, when you wake up in the Melissa, what's yours?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are your top five things that you do in the money?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I read light immediately.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, that's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How many minutes?
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[SPEAKER_01]: 20 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 20 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm not naked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get naked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you have a better, a mask or what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have mats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I lay on one for my whole back and then I put one on my stomach and then whatever else needs it like my knees bothered me or my shoulder or just my chest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I just put it across.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I lay there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of my favorite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My habits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Richie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then next, I'm usually getting up and getting kids off to school, but I'm a protein shake.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get like around 30 grams within a minute or so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I also microdose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you what's your microness of choice?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you mean like how much?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, or what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or the brand or yeah, or what kind of microdose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mushrooms, I use mosaic and I'm at five grams, five milligrams a day, five milligrams, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, if I need an extra boost, I'm not to 10, but yeah, this is fairly new for me, but I love mosaic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, so excited is a absolute performance and answer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We use it here in Colorado and we'll go on like, you know, 15 mile trail runs essentially on the medicine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, you know, yeah, no, it's it's absolute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, even on the, you know, the macro or the micro level, like I am thoroughly a believer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How many crows are you taking on those runs?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It depends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it can be upwards of a macro where it's like five grams are going to be, you know, mid, you know, let's say three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it depends on the company and, you know, I was pretty interesting humans here in, you know, our friends and family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what we do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's definitely trail running.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then in the winners, we do a lot of like ski mountaineering types of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you've already mentioned brain one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're the founder and CEO brain one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What made you start this company?
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[SPEAKER_01]: At what point were you're like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need a platform.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This needs to happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 100%.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's pretty linear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, you know, I've been always interested in measurement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I started doing Iron Man's and triathlons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's when I began to follow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Essentially a health protocol, which is just a structured things that you do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you're training for, if you ever done a marathon or a half marathon, I was like, oh, no, I don't go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's it's not about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You love it or you hate it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in that concept, when you're training from I thought you're falling again, and you know, a protocol where you're optimizing your microhabits, and those are just the things that you do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, triathlon, you have swim, bike, and run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when you're actually training, you're optimizing, you know, every, you know, multitude of inputs in your bodies, that's going to be electrolytes, hydration,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Carbohel Grates, some degree protein, and these longer races like an Iron Man, you're out there from 10 to 12 hours, and so it's non-stop, and it's that concept of using a protocol where I really got the initial kind of vision for this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then further I was here in Colorado, like, three years ago now, I just had the vision for a brainwarned, I didn't know what it was, and I broke my plavical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I go to the number one orthopedic, arguably in the United States, called the Stetman Institute,
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[SPEAKER_00]: they basically did the x-ray.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, it's completely broken here you go and threw me a sling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, okay, that's my like rehab protocol.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, yep, see you in six weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like a mobilization, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So not moving your arm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, then the bone will heal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And ultimately, I went to my network in, you know, as part of brain one, we have a lot of nutritionists and PT's and so forth and I was like, hey guys,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I broke my clinical body recommend, and the recommendation was like bone broth, collagen, and so I was doing big bison stews, and then I was also doing PEMF, do you know, PEMF?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I was that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pulse electrical magnetic frequency, and the stuff's getting more and more accepted, you know, coming from the dropout, we were doing red light like a decade ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember people, you know, it was just completely unknown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now it's completely mainstream, which is awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're just seeing more and more of these things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Pemp is an example on its localized electricity, essentially.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, you know, very specific voltage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't call shockwave, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it the shockwave therapy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like a circle and he like, exact it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it could be a similar concept.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had this done also in acupuncture where they put the, you know, anyway on the nodes and the different, you know, meridians, but there's something really here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, hemp is a bit more exploratory, but just like red light, you know, the stuff is now like on Tony Robinson's web, you know, home page.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's become so mainstream, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And because it works, I think a lot of it, not all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, and so long story short, I do this protocol and she's like, come back in six weeks and I went back and four because I was traveling and I'm she did the x-ray and, you know, the doctor's like, oh my gosh, it's completely healed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never seen anything like it in such a short time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What have you been doing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, doctor, I've been focusing on my nutrition and they looked at me and they're like, oh, we never would have thought of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I was just like, okay, there's something broken here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we can fix it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that again, nutrition as something that can help heal your body, it's just not top to Western medical professionals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that was really the input of so what became pretty much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I bet her mind was just blown of like, wait, what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not talked about with, like, healing from the inside and what you are actually capable of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 100% and even just, you know, food is medicine and we not whole move, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not getting too woo-woo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The reality is you are just like your reflection of who you surround yourself with and the things that you do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also true about what you put in your body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And just the basics of whole food and, you know, not, you know, really getting
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the chemicals that are in the food supply today in our country, I mean, it's, you know, it's pretty upsetting, like glyphosate as an example, which is absolutely herbicide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's in the majority of our wheat products, you know, this has been tested.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I grew up eating quaker oats in my, you can hear you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cheerios.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cheerios.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every single sample of Cheerios they tested had glyphosate residue and it's just tragic, you know, and to say, oh, it's just, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, though, when we, you know, we built, I mean, hundreds of not going on thousands of these protocols and like it comes down to the same basic principles, you know, and you've looked at longevity, you know, nutrition exercise sleep stress in some level of connection, you know, those are some of the major pillars that we see across each nutrition exercise sleep stress.
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[SPEAKER_00]: insert nutrition, you know, number one, of course exercise.
17:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Sleep, you know, we talk a lot about cognition.
18:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're not getting the appropriate amount of sleep and the right kind of sleep, then you're just not going to be noologically active.
18:08
[SPEAKER_00]: So people come to us all the time, they're like, hey, what's the secret, you know, solution pill protocol?
18:12
[SPEAKER_00]: and you have to start with these, you know, basics, essentially.
18:15
[SPEAKER_00]: But then also to point around measurement, you know, measuring your sleep.
18:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's the first thing that we recommend, whether it's a wearable.
18:22
[SPEAKER_00]: They have to sleep eight out mattress now that measures are HRVE through the mattress.
18:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's pretty crazy.
18:28
[SPEAKER_00]: So you don't even need a wearable to put that underneath thing.
18:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so pretty incredible.
18:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I actually just started doing that over the last.
18:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I've done it before, but I like to take my watch off at night.
18:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I got you try not to have anything on me.
18:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just see, I'm like, I'm not really sure what my hours are looking like and I still have yet to hit eight.
18:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yeah, oh, he can kill me.
18:51
[SPEAKER_01]: This is not good.
18:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, but don't be yourself up and we're all different biologically.
18:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I mean, even six, you know, six to eight is an awesome target.
19:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Eight is so hard.
19:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
19:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I, man, it's rough.
19:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to go to bed earlier.
19:04
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not alone.
19:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I start my red light protocol, even though I had no idea why she was sooner.
19:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, for sure.
19:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, I, so my wearables of choice, I use Garmin when I'm training training and I work for the accuracy of activity, but I use General A's or when I sleep.
19:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been we're doing a time series in saying which of these wearables is the most accurate.
19:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
19:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Apple is the least and it's also a true serve and the amount of in Canada.
19:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So I've been testing loop.
19:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't love loop by their honestly.
19:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really going back to work.
19:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
19:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a little clunky.
19:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't love their data visualization.
19:34
[SPEAKER_00]: So or a for sleep, garment for activity is gone, but the normal and human, the apple watch is awesome, too.
19:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I need to switch.
19:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to switch the aura or a ring.
19:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It's good.
19:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't invasive.
19:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
19:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
19:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're, you're talking about these protocols.
19:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know people are probably going like,
19:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay, we need to understand this.
19:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, talk to me, like, protocol, brainlobe for dummies because you're bringing like the neuroscience, the behavior design, and like AI all together.
20:02
[SPEAKER_01]: How does that work?
20:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
20:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Why is this important?
20:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
20:06
[SPEAKER_01]: 100%.
20:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So where we started was again, if you've ever heard the hypothesis dimensions preventable, that's become more prevalent and accepted.
20:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's really only, you know, let's say 2030 years old that you really began understanding the impacts.
20:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Typically around lifestyle and you know, there's a dementia has essentially a spectrum, but certain types of dementia.
20:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And so where we started was we were looking at scientific papers.
20:34
[SPEAKER_00]: There's one, it's called the Lancet 2020 for your listeners can find it.
20:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And what it outlines, it started off with, you know, an alder up to, I think it's 14th of April, essentially modifications or things that you can do to help reduce your propensity for dementia.
20:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Basically.
20:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And so these are small lifestyle modifications, and this is some of them, you know, you may not be able to control, so things like TBI or, you know, air pollution.
20:58
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you played football and we work with a lot of X NFL guys, you know, they have TBI period.
21:03
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's things that you can do to support yourself again through that.
21:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Another example would be noise, actually losing your hearing as you get older, you know, things like social isolation, actually increase your propensity, things like, yeah, a microhabit like connection.
21:16
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you wake up in the morning, do you have things to do and do have, you know, a purpose of some kind.
21:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And as you get older, that changes, you know.
21:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And so helping try to instill these things early when people are in their 30s and 40s, not when you're in your 60s and 70s.
21:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And you may, you know, it's not that you've missed it, because you can still start immediately.
21:33
[SPEAKER_00]: But again, starting these types of microhapets early on are really, really critical.
21:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And so we'll take that paper and we run through AI, we generate an editorial and then essentially a series of steps that people can do to help reduce their chance of getting dementia.
21:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy though that like these small things like connection and purpose and sleep like that truly changes like the structure you're But yeah, you're by allergy like how the wires like literally in your brain connect or don't connect or 100%
22:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, come apart.
22:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I don't think people understand how important these things are.
22:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of people are walking around the mindset of like, no, my grandma had it, my grandpa had it.
22:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get it or hey, it's just we're just going to roll the dice and if I get it, then I get it and that's not the case anymore exactly.
22:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it comes back to the prior point, you know, you control to some degree, your biological energy and expression.
22:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And so you do have some control over these things.
22:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, if you have a genetic predisposition for Alzheimer's, you know, you can't necessarily change the onset of the disease, but there's things that you can do to manage, you know, the impact of the disease in your life.
22:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And sure, you know, even that stabilization of the teleporitans, amyloids, and so forth,
22:48
[SPEAKER_00]: that's really what we're thinking about.
22:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And then from there we started with brain and now we're looking at all different areas of human biology and impacts of women's health and peptides and all the things.
22:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wanted to talk to you about that and like with women like the female brain and and just the revolution of that, how is data and neuroscience like changing women's health?
23:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Like what do you see happening in this field?
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[SPEAKER_01]: 100%.
23:15
[SPEAKER_00]: So we get actually even when I was I was just beginning to launch brain one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a doctor that came up to me and she's like, hey, can we start using this for women's health?
23:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And so we've been working together in that's a whole area that we're looking to expand into soon.
23:27
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I guess taking a step back, the first question I have is like, why does nearly every single woman in my life have autoimmune of some kind?
23:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, they're dealing with, again, thyroid issues, endocrine disruption.
23:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So that is just one general trend that we hear and we see, and we get asked for protocols around.
23:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And so things like PCOS, endometriosis, Perry menopause, menopause,
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[SPEAKER_00]: all these different areas of women's health and so I would say generally they haven't been well researched and very unfortunate as you know it's absolutely absurd yeah and so there's that and then you know further again you know there's really no playbooks for these things I mean I've heard so
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[SPEAKER_00]: many stories of women going in with endometrients or PCOS and just how they're tested and then the plans that they're put on.
24:15
[SPEAKER_00]: So those were things that were really, these were types of protocols that were really working towards at the moment and there's just such a massive need.
24:20
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's very, very exciting.
24:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, can you see like any ways that women can change just with like hormonal decline?
24:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Like are you seeing any patterns right now that like we see women doing this and it's creating a
24:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say our approaches, you know, we don't work with single clients or single, you know, humans.
24:42
[SPEAKER_00]: We work with clinicians and the clinicians work directly with with the humans.
24:46
[SPEAKER_00]: What we see are, again, more on like the disease states, like I said, you know, mentioned endometriosis, as an example in PCOS, like we are actively building protocols for each of those areas.
24:57
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think just as a general trend, that's what we're seeing.
24:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Relative to, I would say the types of, you know, support, you know, on one hand again, it's hormonal.
25:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And so what does that look like?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Relative to the impact of nutrition on your hormones.
25:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And in the morning, what does that look like?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Relative to your daily microhabit?
25:12
[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned one of the first things you do is a 30 gram protein.
25:16
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, high protein in the morning is absolutely critical.
25:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that would be a microhabit as part of, let's say a PCOS protocol.
25:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And then secondly, you know, thinking about circadian regulation, I am just the ability to get direct sunlight and then how that impacts your ultimately your sleep schedule.
25:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And so a series of microhabits essentially that then roll up into a protocol that are easy for a human to do.
25:37
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the hardest part, but you know, these small types of changes that women and just two men can actually integrate into the lives.
25:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I can totally appreciate a good protocol because I was seeing this one guy for back in PT and stretching and like I just stretching resistance stretching and all these things and he gave me like so much information and I'm like, okay, look dude, yeah and you did a boy get down for me and just give me like a protocol to follow of like you need to do these by things every single day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
26:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
26:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's, I mean, much for my brain.
26:07
[SPEAKER_00]: 100% you're not alone.
26:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's literally what we built brain.
26:10
[SPEAKER_00]: One, let's say, is actually for that reason.
26:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And so what people can do is they can, so what we see just taking a step back is like, people are, you know, in that instance, those are more, you know, exercise or maybe movement based micro-appet stretching and so forth.
26:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
26:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And then on the other side of it, you have nutrition and then you have supplementation.
26:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're, you know, more in the peak performance, like we're always trying to, you know, just be the best humans we can be.
26:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the supplements stacks that I see are insane, where we're talking like 40 pills a day.
26:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And so what happens is a clinician will come to us, they have a list essentially of the supplements, and then they just upload the list, and then the microhabits, and then it generates a protocol that human can follow, basically.
26:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
26:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And part of that is just the organization of their supplements.
26:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we have people on the platform that, again, they have like 40 different supplements that may be are on, well, it's a 40 different pills, 20 different supplements twice a day.
27:00
[SPEAKER_00]: The schedule around that and then let alone peptides, like you layer in, you know, and I think there's a little bit of a worrying trend on the peptides, like people are being over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: prescribed even though they're not really prescribed, but you know, I'm not one human recently and they were on eight different peptides and like that's a little bit absurd to me if you're just a normal functioning using human if you're, you know, rigorously training and so forth.
27:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, I just said I'd say a little bit of a concern there, but that's something we're actively looking at as well.
27:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, and you have to be careful of like certain things you can't mix, like if someone is on fun, so taking more like a dim and go to high on like those are things that you like, they're going to fight for absorption and someone's taking just like a basic turmeric with a probiotic, like you don't want them come by and together, people don't know that.
27:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's I'm in 100% correct.
27:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, contraindications and that idea that you have effects that are not synergistic, it's an issue, for sure.
27:56
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29:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's talk AI really quick because I know a lot of people are afraid of it, and then a lot of people are fully like, no, bring it on.
29:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It's making my life easier.
29:14
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you see it in the sense of like AI is going to help upgrade human performance?
29:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Like how?
29:23
[SPEAKER_01]: How can we not be afraid of this?
29:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's coming no matter what.
29:25
[SPEAKER_01]: It's happening.
29:26
[SPEAKER_01]: It's already here.
29:27
[SPEAKER_00]: 100% yeah, it's here.
29:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we were, you know, I started building AM models like well over a decade ago, in digital systems, it's just gotten more mainstream.
29:36
[SPEAKER_00]: So none of this is, you know, new and new, it's just, you can build these models a lot cheaper and quicker.
29:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
29:41
[SPEAKER_00]: My general approach in technology is that,
29:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone on this, you know, in your audience should try to experiment with as much as possible and understand it and understand the capabilities of what we can build and not I mean even if you're afraid of it still take the time and really understand it and then you know you have a more informed perspective there's absolutely reason for concern I'm an optimistic heart and so I try to focus on the positive ways that we see you know AI in in health and I have a couple examples I could share.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like so one thing again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that idea of again, we take a scientific paper, we generate a protocol, and then the human can download that and start tracking that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then where the AI comes into play is around the recommendation in the what's called adaptive AI of taking that health protocol that's already been personalized for you Melissa based on, you know, your prior weeks activities, but it also can look at your biometrics and your biomarkers and then make a recommendation based on that data, essentially.
30:36
[SPEAKER_00]: that you can then follow that's even more tailored to you.
30:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's something we've been testing for a while now, we're in our alpha, it'll go into beta and in public and I love you to take a look at that idea that you have a bit more of a structured routine.
30:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just, we don't see this in the wearables.
30:52
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you wear one of these wearables.
30:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like your HRD is low, right?
30:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, well, I had a glass of wine last night.
30:58
[SPEAKER_00]: That'll do it.
30:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, you are like, okay, what can I do to improve it though today?
31:03
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, that's where all of these platforms fall short.
31:06
[SPEAKER_00]: and so that's something we've really thought about and put time into around behavioral modification in models.
31:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And how do you incentivize someone?
31:13
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you help motivate them?
31:14
[SPEAKER_00]: What is the mechanism for that messaging?
31:17
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have an app, of course, but then we also use SMS and things like that to reach people, you know, wherever we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now relative to yeah, it's pretty cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is becoming more and more ubiquitous like sleep aid.
31:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned earlier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have one yet.
31:29
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like next on my list, but they send you a text message in the morning and it tells your HRV.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you don't need to log in anything.
31:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, so that's what we're where we're in towards the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You press a button yet or for a protocol for the day, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: That level of just, you know, and also, yeah, it helps keep the amount of like time you're on a screen, but that would be one example.
31:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Another example I have to mention is we have a member of the brain one team as name is Dr. Galen Buck Walter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's our chief brain futurist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Galen is a pioneer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has six neural implants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One in the prefrontal, and then he has five and his neocortex.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's one of the most connected humans on the planet, at least that we know of in the United States.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so these are small chips, they're eight by eight arrays.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in Gailens case, he's a quadriplegic, he had a nac, a traggax and Emily was 17, jumped off her bridge.
32:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he's been paralyzed, he has some control of his right arm, but so he qualified for this clinical trial and now by using his brain, he can control a robotic arm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just incredible to watch this in real time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But literally, you mentioned this in the very onset of our chat, where the generation that's really seeing the fusion of technology and biology, quite literally, and Galen is a pioneer in this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's for that very amazing reason that he could then be
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, control a robotic arm or maybe an exoskeleton, you know, maybe not in his lifetime, but that's the research that he's putting forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's all done using AI and modeling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when he thinks something, it then triggered the robotic arm to do the thing.
32:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, that's like right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's such amazing stories, you know, people who are completely paralyzed that can talk to their partner for the first time, you know, essentially so it's a very exciting time and I'm an optimist, you know, always reasons to be cautious as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to add to that like I love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the format of this and the protocol because the person has to take action.
33:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You have got to be responsible for your own health and follow along and do it and get up.
33:29
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like, here, you know, just just like tell me what to do and then I just follow that like blindly like you have to be involved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have to go through every step of your protocol and so many people are just like just give it to me.
33:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they do it with me with like meal plans or, you know,
33:45
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, tell me what to work out, and I'll just do exactly what you said.
33:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, no, you still need to learn form and technique.
33:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You need, I'm going to give you a range of rap, but you need to know what is your fatigue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when do you stop?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just, I love that it's still making the human take responsibility and accountability for your health.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, 100%.
34:05
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the hardest part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like the technology, the AI, that's easy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The hardest part is the human behavior change, you know, and actually it's something as small as, like, just drinking two glasses of water when you wake up in the morning or getting drugs online.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's hard because we all have lives and kids in, you know, all of the things, but yeah, it's, uh, that's kind of the secret sauce for what we're really thinking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to apply it to brain, women's health, also just peptides in general.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So those are all the areas that we're working towards immediately.
34:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious, what's your daily protocol?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what does your morning look like?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll share it with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have it.
34:41
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the way I actually have a full profile page.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so it's fairly simple though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it does depend if I'm traveling or if I'm home, when I'm home, hydration, direct sunlight, I have a bio charger here in the house.
34:56
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're familiar with that, it's not like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what coil.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I buy out a charge and that's like three days a week in the mornings and there's different protocols.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So one is for activation others for recovery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you see it's part of it?
35:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you hold on to it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, would you know that it's you actually we sit around it and I'll have like meetings and whatnot, but it's like a giant Tesla coil and then it has these tubes and and so we'll have meetings and it just admits essentially a, you know, a type of frequency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, Tony Robbins has like eight of them in his homes or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you would love a stop, yeah, especially if you're doing red light.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's along the lines of the frequency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I have a very high protein, low sugar diet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not nearly keto, but, you know, in general, that's like the general principles there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: High protein within about an hour of waking, trying not to drink coffee until about an hour of waking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: find you stay away from screens, you know, and so some of these were non-negotiables and some of them you just have a, you know, have to have a bit of flexibility.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then of course traveling, it's even worse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in another, you know, in the winter, try to ski or snowboard every day possible physically, yeah, and then a, you know, bedtime, wind down routine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you, are you lifting?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you train now and do trathons or 100% yeah, I do so when I'm here in Colorado again, try to see every day and then I do hot Plotty's four days a week and it's very challenging.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the hardest class in town and that comes with That's combined with weights and then you get the sweat and so it's a one hour class and I use pretty heavy weights 30s to 50s and I do that like four days a week and that you know between those two but what I found that was when I really
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[SPEAKER_00]: I always embrace yoga when I was in, I lived in LA in Venice for 10 years, but then when I moved here, I really got into the Pilates and when I found, it's just that cross-training and all those micromusals and so I get hurt less now when I ski because I have, you know, that better kind of base in the foundation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what about the nighttime?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have anything specific that you follow?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Regardless of travel or at home?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just the basics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So low temperature for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'd say probably in the 50s, just depending, just wind is open.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, blinds, you know, trying to reduce the amount of sunlight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Things like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I'm training, training, nighttime all throw in things like a salt bath.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure, also on the recovery side, cold plunge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we go cold plunge here in the rivers, which were very cold.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially this time of the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have to break the ice and get in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, that's all it's, you know, it's all based on the training.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's like, you know, really feel inflammation or whatnot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: On the peptide side, I go through cycles with peptides where there's absolutely zero right now, I have BPC, and then I've been doing an IM, NAD, and that's been really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you tried NAD Mossa?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm scared.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, are you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, hang out.
37:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It depends, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a spectrum, like you have still form, which I've been hearing good, you know, things about from our audience, and then also powder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I went full.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am, which, you know, you have three constituted, and then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, do it in the muscle.
38:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I am not good with needles, but that's more what I'm afraid of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm trying to look before me on that, but like real stuff you're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not alone, trust me.
38:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's a small diabetic needle and I don't know it's interesting now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It also does negatively impact my HRV But these are all of the types of you know, it's like we're doing these all of us We're all doing these N of 1 studies where you know your protocol is specific to you Melissa and all the things that you do But you know at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it just allows to you know begin to optimize each of these things once right
38:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this and I just I fully believe and I I just embrace the concept of like just because you age doesn't mean you have to get old I I couldn't remember.
38:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and so a big part of that is like connection, you know, which time are you getting out with other people and connecting and you know like both clubs and I don't know dance clubs like it doesn't really matter what it is, but you know these very human elements that need to continue, you know, and once you start like
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[SPEAKER_00]: really, you know, kind of shutting people out and, you know, there's a direct connection to dementia with lack of connection and purpose.
39:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So crazy.
39:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And then this is, this is one of the reasons why I took my training.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I used to do just like one on one personal training in a gym, things like that.
39:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're missing something like something is completely missing and I was training mostly with women and I'm like, it's the environment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's bringing everyone together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's having this culture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's why now I train people online together all across the country and I'm like, you guys have no idea how important this environment setting is to be sure and have the connection.
39:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I know you're over in Wisconsin, I'm in California, but it doesn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: also, you know, still a form of like connection, but yet still go out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have so many people they're like, I just want to be home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
39:54
[SPEAKER_00]: If it feels like, you know, people want to be home more now than ever, actually, you know, it's weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, certainly last social.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All I think part of that is based, you know, in the environment of technology and social media and those things, I mean, I think these are all factors, but yeah, I can't underestimate the
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, yeah, it's, it's so important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so glad that you said that and brought it up too, because man, having people in your life that you can hug physically, you know, like you get weird if you don't get hugged.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, or a dog, or a dog, or, you know, it's essentially like of some kind, 100% yeah, I mean, animals are, you know, also a such an identical part of our lives.
40:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, mine are such a pain in the ass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have these two little dogs, but I'm like, when my kids are gone, if they're with their dad, I don't like being alone.
40:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're there, they're my little buddies, you know what I'm like?
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[SPEAKER_01]: A little pain in the ass, you're so worth it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of the absolute life.
40:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, again, and even animals, we see, we actually have a micro habit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People have added, you didn't even have to have, and it's 20 minutes of petting their animal.
41:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And it releases oxytocide, and there's like a direct connection at these things that we're finding out more and more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's, yeah, it's amazing.
41:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're helping preventing dementia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 100%.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's at least part of a plan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for how can people find you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How can they follow you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How can they learn more?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll put everything in the show notes too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But tell us how can we connect with you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so brain dot one is our website.
41:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're on socials.
41:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, a quick funny sign out.
41:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a new song coming out that I wrote with Dr. Gailin Buck Walter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm singing and playing drums.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Gailin is singing and then controlling a synthesizer with his
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're in computer interfaces as well as I'm not exaggerating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's insane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's literally singing controlling a synth at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so anyway, that's going to come out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That'll be unspotified about two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Dr. Galen is performing with me.
41:57
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just amazing.
41:59
[SPEAKER_01]: What's this on about?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wrote it in Venice like, you know, I don't know, 10 years ago and it's kind of it's actually like a 90's so kelp punk rock, which Oh, no, it's a lot of different genres, but Gailin's expression into the world, you know, being, you know, confined in a wheelchairs is punk rock and AI And he's such an amazing human and so we've known each other for two decades and I wrote this song and I was like, Gailin, we got to record this and so further, he's singing and then controlling a synthesizer with his brain implants, it's like, that's amazing
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is the future on some level of music, even, you know, where, again, you have ways of, you know, composing just using your brain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When this was like, Oh my god, this was so cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys go to the show notes, check it out, connect, get on brain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brain.1, get on there, build your protocol, like live your best life that you possibly can, and there's ways to do this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Melissa.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for being a part of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're such a blessing to this show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope we can work together and the future Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is so cool But thank you again for coming on everyone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you Thank you, Melissa Everyone stay safe stay healthy until next time
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