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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello.
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- 0:33Speaker 1: Let's get into it.
- 0:34Speaker 3: She's on the Money, She's on the Money.
- 0:57Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast
- 1:01Speaker 4: for millennials who want financial freedom. My name is Georgia King,
- 1:05Speaker 4: and joining me as she does each and every Wednesday,
- 1:07Speaker 4: is Victoria to Fine V. How are we?
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- 1:41Speaker 4: The last financial year has been a difficult one for many,
- 1:44Speaker 4: with significant changes in working conditions due to the ongoing pandemic,
- 1:49Speaker 4: and with the end of financial year looming, many Australians
- 1:52Speaker 4: are hoping for a bit of relief and wondering if
- 1:54Speaker 4: this might come in the form of a bigger tax
- 1:57Speaker 4: refund this year.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Oh very sexy. Today on the show Jojah King, I
- 2:01Speaker 1: am going to take you through a number of things.
- 2:03Speaker 5: Let's list them off. We are going to run through
- 2:05Speaker 5: what you as an individual need to prepare for tax time.
- 2:09Speaker 5: Very exciting. We're going to talk the tax offset. We're
- 2:11Speaker 5: going to talk about what you can claim and what
- 2:13Speaker 5: you can't claim. We're going to talk about what you
- 2:14Speaker 5: need to look out for and where you can get
- 2:16Speaker 5: some more information. We're going to take you through everything
- 2:18Speaker 5: you need to know when it comes to your investments.
- 2:21Speaker 5: When you need to get an accountant, and we're obviously
- 2:24Speaker 5: Jojia King also going to help you feel empowered about
- 2:26Speaker 5: this process because it can be so overwhelming.
- 2:28Speaker 4: Absolutely it can. Before we go anywhere, Statskills entering the chat.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Hello, stats girl, welcome to the show.
- 2:35Speaker 4: Did you know Vikidi you probably did that around fourteen
- 2:39Speaker 4: million people lodge a tax return each year in Australia.
- 2:42Speaker 1: I mean that makes sense. Thank you for that stat girl.
- 2:46Speaker 4: Of those who receive a refund, about two thirds on average,
- 2:49Speaker 4: they receive just over four thousand dollars each. That's so
- 2:52Speaker 4: much money, resulting in a collective refund of more than
- 2:56Speaker 4: three billion. But some tax cuts have been in clemented
- 3:00Speaker 4: for middle and low income earners over the course of
- 3:02Speaker 4: the pandemic. The perini, the pennine as you are really pushing, Aha,
- 3:08Speaker 4: who gets it and how does it work?
- 3:09Speaker 1: The pannini the pannini. The panini is a thing. We're
- 3:12Speaker 1: making it a thing.
- 3:13Speaker 4: I don't think it's caught on.
- 3:14Speaker 5: Justice only caught on with me and everybody I've said
- 3:17Speaker 5: it too, is like you're a loser.
- 3:19Speaker 1: Sit down.
- 3:20Speaker 5: Yes, So the Australian government created this tax offset a
- 3:23Speaker 5: few years ago to boost the incomes of low and
- 3:24Speaker 5: middle income Australians. The offset is still around this year,
- 3:27Speaker 5: money Win, meaning that millions of eligible tax payers across
- 3:30Speaker 5: the country are going to receive anywhere between two hundred
- 3:33Speaker 5: and fifty five and one thousand and eighty dollars as
- 3:35Speaker 5: an offset against their taxable income for this year, which is.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Kind of helpful.
- 3:39Speaker 5: I'm glad they've kept it around, especially after the past
- 3:42Speaker 5: few years that were and then for many this will
- 3:44Speaker 5: then flow into a larger tax refund that they were
- 3:47Speaker 5: probably already expecting. The offset amount really depends on how
- 3:50Speaker 5: much you already earn. For example, you need to earn
- 3:53Speaker 5: less than one hundred and twenty six thousand dollars to
- 3:55Speaker 5: actually qualify for this, and you don't actually have to
- 3:58Speaker 5: do anything in particular to receive it, just have to
- 4:00Speaker 5: earn under that amount. It will automatically be calculated as
- 4:03Speaker 5: part of your tax return when you do it. So Gee,
- 4:05Speaker 5: the sooner the better when it comes to doing this,
- 4:07Speaker 5: didn't know that was in place?
- 4:08Speaker 1: Money when?
- 4:10Speaker 4: What are some basic things I need to remember when
- 4:12Speaker 4: it comes to doing my tax return.
- 4:14Speaker 5: That one, it is important to actually do your tax
- 4:16Speaker 5: return if you've had your head in the sand for
- 4:18Speaker 5: a few years and have heard.
- 4:19Speaker 1: This recently because people like Victoria.
- 4:21Speaker 5: It's just so hard, And now it's overwhelming because it's
- 4:24Speaker 5: been five or six years and I haven't done a
- 4:25Speaker 5: tax refund, which actually does happen.
- 4:28Speaker 1: It's okay. You can see an accountant, which is exactly
- 4:30Speaker 1: what I would recommend you do, and start getting that
- 4:33Speaker 1: ball underway. You can still submit them, there's just a
- 4:35Speaker 1: bit of a different process to follow, and the sooner
- 4:38Speaker 1: you're on it, the sooner you're going to feel less
- 4:40Speaker 1: anxious about that process, like, just get it done.
- 4:43Speaker 5: Just get it done, and very likely it's not going
- 4:46Speaker 5: to be nearly as overwhelming as you think it's going
- 4:48Speaker 5: to be because you're probably going, oh my gosh, I'm
- 4:51Speaker 5: going to be fined and I'm going to do this,
- 4:52Speaker 5: and I'm going to do that.
- 4:53Speaker 1: But the refund often ends up offsetting how much the
- 4:56Speaker 1: penalties are, and if you've got a good accountant, they're
- 4:59Speaker 1: often a able to be like, look, gee really didn't
- 5:01Speaker 1: know what she was doing. Can we wipe this and
- 5:03Speaker 1: have a conversation and just get an accountant on your team,
- 5:07Speaker 1: because that's an anxiety you don't need to live with
- 5:10Speaker 1: back onto actually what you need to do when it
- 5:12Speaker 1: comes to your text return this year. Often getting your
- 5:14Speaker 1: refund back is held up a bit because people are
- 5:17Speaker 1: making really basic mistakes. G it's not because the ATO
- 5:20Speaker 1: are taking their time. A lot of this, as I've
- 5:22Speaker 1: said before, in the POD is data fed and if
- 5:24Speaker 1: the data isn't crystal clean and perfect, it needs to
- 5:27Speaker 1: go through a manual process, and that's the manual process
- 5:29Speaker 1: that takes a bit longer. So if your name or
- 5:32Speaker 1: address has changed, make sure that you update your ATO information.
- 5:35Speaker 5: Before lodging a return. If you're lodging your return under
- 5:38Speaker 5: different details, the ato's data matching technology isn't able to
- 5:41Speaker 5: match it to your TFN, so if they can't match
- 5:44Speaker 5: your tax file number, a manual person has to get involved.
- 5:46Speaker 5: And as you can imagine, when that happens at scale,
- 5:49Speaker 5: as you said before, fourteen million people submitting their tax returns,
- 5:54Speaker 5: even if just a small amount do it wrong, that's
- 5:57Speaker 5: a very long list of people that need to get
- 5:59Speaker 5: manually done, So don't put yourself in that bucket. You
- 6:01Speaker 5: need to make sure as well that your bank details
- 6:04Speaker 5: are correct. So if you've changed banking products or changed
- 6:07Speaker 5: banks recently, make sure you update those because all tax
- 6:11Speaker 5: refunds now are done by direct deposit, meaning nobody at
- 6:15Speaker 5: all ever is going to get a check in the
- 6:16Speaker 5: mail from the ATO anymore. So making sure your bank
- 6:19Speaker 5: details are correct is going to be important. You spell
- 6:22Speaker 5: check Georgia King, It's very important if you see the
- 6:25Speaker 5: little red squiggly lud kick it to my friend. So
- 6:28Speaker 5: if you've added an extra letter or accidentally spelt something
- 6:31Speaker 5: wrong in a key field, it's going to delay your
- 6:33Speaker 5: tax refund significantly because, as I said, manual matching process
- 6:37Speaker 5: has to occur. And I promise those people are probably
- 6:41Speaker 5: pretty pissed off that Georgia King had two a's on
- 6:44Speaker 5: her name and they just had to backspace it, and
- 6:46Speaker 5: that was the entirely of their job to do it
- 6:47Speaker 5: right the first time. My friend, Then what I want
- 6:50Speaker 5: you to do, g is also make sure you're adding
- 6:52Speaker 5: in all of your income, all of your shifts from
- 6:55Speaker 5: Uber that you did last October, for that one time
- 6:57Speaker 5: that you thought you were actually going to do that,
- 7:00Speaker 5: that shifted a cafe where you were like, oh, I'm
- 7:02Speaker 5: going to pick up this Sunday job, and then you
- 7:03Speaker 5: realize you didn't want to do that anymore and now
- 7:06Speaker 5: you just have a full time job. We can't forget
- 7:08Speaker 5: about these things because this is where you're going to
- 7:10Speaker 5: run into trouble. You do have to pay tax on
- 7:12Speaker 5: those jobs, even if they were really fleeting. So not
- 7:15Speaker 5: claiming income is something that the ATO has been coming
- 7:18Speaker 5: down on really really hard recently on especially with the
- 7:20Speaker 5: rise of the gig economy. They're trying to be far
- 7:23Speaker 5: more on top of it because they're like, well, we
- 7:25Speaker 5: need to really capture all of these income streams that
- 7:27Speaker 5: people are, you know, going out and earning and making
- 7:29Speaker 5: sure that we're taxing them appropriately. So just do the
- 7:32Speaker 5: right thing, not because I'm trying to tell you to
- 7:35Speaker 5: avoid tax or not. I'm literally just doing it because
- 7:38Speaker 5: it's going to take longer if you submit your tax
- 7:40Speaker 5: return and ge some random cafe out in woop woop
- 7:44Speaker 5: has your details because you worked one Sunday shift one
- 7:46Speaker 5: time and you.
- 7:46Speaker 1: Didn't claim it.
- 7:47Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, because everything is data match to these days,
- 7:50Speaker 5: like somewhere somehow there it's going to be a record
- 7:52Speaker 5: of that.
- 7:53Speaker 1: Just make sure it is on your actual tax return.
- 7:55Speaker 4: So would you say, maybe keep a little spreadsheet with
- 7:57Speaker 4: the little in.
- 7:59Speaker 5: The journey out keeping a spreadsheet, so absolutely if that's
- 8:02Speaker 5: down your alley. But also the other thing is probably
- 8:05Speaker 5: don't try and be too fast to do your tax refund.
- 8:07Speaker 5: I think a lot of people really go, oh my god,
- 8:09Speaker 5: it's June thirty. I need to get my tax refund asap.
- 8:12Speaker 5: And I totally get it if you need the cash, totally.
- 8:16Speaker 5: But businesses actually have up until June thirty as like
- 8:20Speaker 5: that cut off date for reporting on their finances. It's
- 8:23Speaker 5: then going to take me a little bit to get
- 8:25Speaker 5: your group certificate together, ge. And this happens in my
- 8:27Speaker 5: business as well. So I'm going to sit down this
- 8:30Speaker 5: year with my accountant and I'm going to go, okay, cool,
- 8:32Speaker 5: it's tax time end of June thirty. I need to
- 8:34Speaker 5: get all of my team their group certificates so they
- 8:36Speaker 5: can submit their tax I need to upload everything to
- 8:39Speaker 5: the ATO and get it all done. As an employer,
- 8:42Speaker 5: that doesn't just happen on June thirty, because June thirty
- 8:44Speaker 5: is the last reporting day of all those finances. Like
- 8:47Speaker 5: what if you took annual leave on June thirty, or
- 8:50Speaker 5: what if you actually, you know, had some sick leave
- 8:52Speaker 5: balances or whatever. I need to work out I need
- 8:54Speaker 5: to do that for my whole team. So usually my
- 8:57Speaker 5: team get their group certificates, like at the end of
- 9:00Speaker 5: the first week of July, because I just need a
- 9:02Speaker 5: little bit of time to get my stuff together. It's
- 9:04Speaker 5: not just me who does that though. The bigger the business,
- 9:07Speaker 5: the more that can take. And it's very common to
- 9:10Speaker 5: not get your group certificate until late mid July or
- 9:12Speaker 5: even late July. I'm not saying it's appropriate. We want
- 9:15Speaker 5: it asap, but understand the process. It's not going to
- 9:19Speaker 5: be in your inbox on June thirty to submit it asap.
- 9:23Speaker 4: Just back to the gig economy as well. We did
- 9:27Speaker 4: do an episode a couple of weeks ago on tax
- 9:30Speaker 4: and side hustles. So if you have a qual to
- 9:32Speaker 4: that lieand so that you would have the resources you
- 9:34Speaker 4: needed by the time tax time came. All around tax times,
- 9:37Speaker 4: it's likely had a spreadsheeler gee, you know.
- 9:40Speaker 5: G Another thing to keep in mind is being proactive
- 9:43Speaker 5: about tax time instead of reactive. That's such good information
- 9:46Speaker 5: coming from somebody who's always reactive instead of proactive.
- 9:49Speaker 1: So cute from me.
- 9:50Speaker 5: But once June thirty has come and gone, by the way,
- 9:53Speaker 5: that's my birthday so if you don't say happy birthday
- 9:55Speaker 5: to me, I'll be kind of salty. You need to
- 9:57Speaker 5: wait another twelve months before you can claim it spence
- 10:00Speaker 5: on tax. So if you're looking at purchasing something for
- 10:02Speaker 5: your business or something that you're actually able to claim
- 10:05Speaker 5: kind of now is the time to shine my love, like,
- 10:08Speaker 5: go and organize that now instead of after June thirty,
- 10:11Speaker 5: because if you do it after June thirty, you have
- 10:12Speaker 5: to wait a whole other twelve months to claim it.
- 10:15Speaker 5: In saying that, can we please stop justifying June thirty
- 10:19Speaker 5: purchases as small business owners like you do not just
- 10:22Speaker 5: need a new laptop because you think you'll get a
- 10:23Speaker 5: tax refund. You still have to pay for the laptop,
- 10:27Speaker 5: like that's still coming out of your business cash flow.
- 10:29Speaker 5: So I think we need to be a lead to
- 10:30Speaker 5: a bit smarter about it, because my new iPhone is
- 10:32Speaker 5: telling me to tell you that.
- 10:34Speaker 4: Okay, while we're on the topic of claims fee, what
- 10:39Speaker 4: are your tips on making the most not doing a dodgy?
- 10:43Speaker 1: Not doing a dodgy? Yeah, just don't claim things you
- 10:45Speaker 1: can't claim fair enough. Don't claim things you didn't spend
- 10:47Speaker 1: money on.
- 10:48Speaker 5: Stop with this idea like this, This grinds my gears right,
- 10:52Speaker 5: So it wasn't in our Facebook group because our Facebook
- 10:55Speaker 5: group is full of very smart, very intelligent people who
- 10:58Speaker 5: do the right thing. This is other Facebook group that
- 11:00Speaker 5: I mean, and people like, oh, don't forget you can
- 11:02Speaker 5: claim up to x amount without receipts. Yeah you can,
- 11:06Speaker 5: but you still have to spend that money. Yeah, Like
- 11:09Speaker 5: that is so dodgy, it's not funny. And the ATO
- 11:12Speaker 5: is coming down on that. They're gonna go, g you're
- 11:15Speaker 5: a podcaster, what do you mean you spent fifty dollars
- 11:18Speaker 5: on sunscreen? Like, that's not related to your job. They'll
- 11:22Speaker 5: ask you for the receipts, and they are getting better
- 11:25Speaker 5: and better at asking for receipts because as data matching
- 11:28Speaker 5: gets more intelligent, AI starts to come into it. They
- 11:31Speaker 5: just like pop it up and send an automatic email
- 11:34Speaker 5: to you to be like, hey, gee, you claimed this.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Please provide with the receipts. You're gonna end up with
- 11:38Speaker 1: a penalty if you're claiming things that you weren't meant
- 11:41Speaker 1: to claim. Just do the right thing. Stop trying to
- 11:44Speaker 1: be a stinge.
- 11:45Speaker 4: Like, oh, let's move on. So our advice is not
- 11:49Speaker 4: to put mayo on our claims what.
- 11:52Speaker 5: Happened unless you're actually paid for that mayo and it
- 11:55Speaker 5: was related to your job, in which case you are
- 11:58Speaker 5: more than welcome to claim it, claiming things that you're
- 12:01Speaker 5: not eligible for just because you want a bigger refund,
- 12:03Speaker 5: because that ain't insists what happens. If we get audited,
- 12:06Speaker 5: you'll get in trouble. So don't embellish is the number
- 12:10Speaker 5: one rule. But obviously, as I said before, super common
- 12:13Speaker 5: misconception that you can quote claim up to three hundred
- 12:15Speaker 5: dollars without receipts like that is not it. People who
- 12:18Speaker 5: are lodging their own tax returns using the atos MY
- 12:21Speaker 5: tax software are monitored by the atos AI software as
- 12:24Speaker 5: they prepare their returns to make sure that people aren't
- 12:27Speaker 5: overclaiming and doing the wrong thing, like they actually track it.
- 12:30Speaker 1: It's kind of scary, but at the same time it
- 12:33Speaker 1: makes sense.
- 12:34Speaker 5: And they also have these buckets, right, so the way
- 12:36Speaker 5: that it works and this is just like a kind
- 12:38Speaker 5: of like the way it works in the back end,
- 12:41Speaker 5: in the technical way, I'm calling them buckets, but like
- 12:44Speaker 5: let's say you're an executive assistant. They're going to have
- 12:47Speaker 5: a group of people that they will compare you to
- 12:49Speaker 5: that are also executive assistants, and there will be common
- 12:52Speaker 5: claims and then there'll be uncommon claims. So if there
- 12:55Speaker 5: are uncommon claims coming through, that's going to raise a
- 12:57Speaker 5: red flag and you're more likely to be audited. It's
- 13:00Speaker 5: really important to get your job classification correct as well,
- 13:03Speaker 5: because it could put your risk of being audited or not,
- 13:06Speaker 5: or actually getting in trouble or not. So the best
- 13:08Speaker 5: thing to do is actually just the right thing.
- 13:10Speaker 1: So if you're then found to let's say you have
- 13:12Speaker 1: claimed something that you weren't entitled to, it doesn't just
- 13:15Speaker 1: mean you have to repay what you claimed back and
- 13:17Speaker 1: you just got caught out. You're actually then paying an
- 13:20Speaker 1: interest rate of nine percent perannum as well on top
- 13:23Speaker 1: of that as well, So you've got your nine percent.
- 13:24Speaker 1: You have to pay your stuff back. But if the
- 13:26Speaker 1: ATO then also believes that you are being super careless
- 13:29Speaker 1: and maybe a little bit naughty and doing it on purpose,
- 13:32Speaker 1: they'll then slap you with a penalty of anywhere between
- 13:35Speaker 1: twenty five and ninety five percent Georgia King of the
- 13:38Speaker 1: tax avoided.
- 13:40Speaker 4: Right, that's not worth it. It's not worth it.
- 13:42Speaker 1: Not worth it, friend, don't do it.
- 13:43Speaker 5: So the easiest way to keep track of your spending
- 13:46Speaker 5: from my perspective, one the ATO app is really helpful
- 13:49Speaker 5: because you can keep track of things that you're going
- 13:51Speaker 5: to claim throughout the year, can snap a quick picture
- 13:53Speaker 5: and upload it. If you're anything like me, you don't
- 13:55Speaker 5: want to have to have that app, even though it
- 13:58Speaker 5: works really well and it makes a lot of sense,
- 14:00Speaker 5: just trying to put another like step in the process
- 14:03Speaker 5: for no good reason. You have an album on your
- 14:05Speaker 5: phone where you just snap away at things and then
- 14:07Speaker 5: when tax come comes you actually just go into that
- 14:10Speaker 5: album and have a look.
- 14:11Speaker 1: And then obviously keeping a budget's a good idea. Always
- 14:14Speaker 1: just stick to it.
- 14:15Speaker 4: I did the old album trick.
- 14:17Speaker 1: Did it work?
- 14:18Speaker 4: I have one receipt in there, but at least you
- 14:21Speaker 4: set it up. I know my intention was good.
- 14:24Speaker 1: The intention is always good.
- 14:25Speaker 5: But I do that as a business owner because there's
- 14:28Speaker 5: so many different things that go different places. It's so
- 14:31Speaker 5: frustrating as well. Like you know, I could go on
- 14:34Speaker 5: about this, but we only have one debit card for
- 14:36Speaker 5: she's on the money the business, So sometimes I like
- 14:38Speaker 5: pay for things in my personal name because Jess's got
- 14:40Speaker 5: the card from work.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Or something, and then I need to claim it. It's
- 14:43Speaker 1: just it's a little bit confusing a headache.
- 14:45Speaker 5: It could be much easier if I just listened to
- 14:47Speaker 5: my accountant properly, But who's gonna do that?
- 14:50Speaker 1: That's so silly.
- 14:52Speaker 4: Do you know how much of your data is pre
- 14:55Speaker 4: filled on your tax return? Set and forget out?
- 14:59Speaker 5: It's not all set and forget It really depends on
- 15:01Speaker 5: one if you've done it before, and then how much
- 15:03Speaker 5: personal and financial information you've given to employers or to
- 15:06Speaker 5: the ATO. But essentially, when you log into the ato's
- 15:09Speaker 5: tax system, often a lot of your information is already there,
- 15:12Speaker 5: and you'll be like, where did they get that from?
- 15:14Speaker 5: And it's usually either from your previous employers, from your
- 15:17Speaker 5: current employer, or from you having done tax returns in
- 15:20Speaker 5: the past, which is kind of cool. It's actually really
- 15:23Speaker 5: helpful when it comes to prefill because it means that
- 15:25Speaker 5: you don't have to do it over and over again.
- 15:28Speaker 5: And if you've done this a few times, it kind
- 15:29Speaker 5: of becomes like second ag. You just log in, check
- 15:31Speaker 5: all your details and make sure everything's correct. Was that
- 15:34Speaker 5: my income this year?
- 15:35Speaker 1: Yes? It was? Was there anything I needed to claim? Yes?
- 15:37Speaker 2: Or no?
- 15:37Speaker 5: Or Hey, here's this petrol that I did xyz on
- 15:40Speaker 5: how much did my investments make this year?
- 15:42Speaker 1: Pop that into the boxes.
- 15:43Speaker 5: Like, it's actually much simpler than people seem to think
- 15:46Speaker 5: it is. I think we think back to like two
- 15:48Speaker 5: thousand and nine when you definitely weren't doing your own tax,
- 15:52Speaker 5: but I was George, and it was a lot more
- 15:54Speaker 5: complicated than it is today.
- 15:57Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know, have a look, give it a
- 15:59Speaker 1: go and have to submit it if you're overwhelmed.
- 16:01Speaker 4: Do we want to go to a little right here,
- 16:04Speaker 4: my girl, I would love to go to a break
- 16:06Speaker 4: because tax is boring. But on the other side, guys,
- 16:09Speaker 4: we'll be getting into the juicy stuff talking about what
- 16:12Speaker 4: we can actually claim.
- 16:13Speaker 5: Do Some people can claim dogs on tax, not me though, right,
- 16:18Speaker 5: we'll talk about it after.
- 16:23Speaker 1: All.
- 16:23Speaker 4: Right, we are back talking tax victoria.
- 16:26Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what a dream.
- 16:29Speaker 4: Let's jump straight into what we can actually claim. You
- 16:33Speaker 4: mentioned before, we can claim dogs or someone.
- 16:35Speaker 5: Look, someone can someway someone has claimed a dog. But
- 16:39Speaker 5: you can claim a dog if a dog is actually
- 16:42Speaker 5: part of your work. So like mainly obviously people in
- 16:44Speaker 5: farming or security, they could claim their dog is related
- 16:47Speaker 5: expenses we should come into security.
- 16:51Speaker 1: Would be a good guard dog.
- 16:52Speaker 4: Absolutely, anyway, tell me what else we can claim.
- 16:57Speaker 5: Look, there are lots of things that you can claim. Again,
- 17:00Speaker 5: please don't take this as a list of things that
- 17:02Speaker 5: Victoria is suggesting you claim on it's not. It's just educational.
- 17:06Speaker 5: We're just talking about tax trying to make it a
- 17:07Speaker 5: little bit less dry than it actually is. But one
- 17:11Speaker 5: of the things that I can claim it's my handbag,
- 17:14Speaker 5: Georgia King, what what I can claim it? Stick your
- 17:17Speaker 5: laptop in it.
- 17:17Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a work bag.
- 17:18Speaker 5: It can't be a fancy designer bag though, because the
- 17:21Speaker 5: ato are going to have some buckleis with that. They're
- 17:23Speaker 5: not gonna like that. It does actually have to be
- 17:25Speaker 5: practical and reasonable in nature. So you can't just go
- 17:27Speaker 5: buy like a Chanelle boy bag and be like, it's
- 17:29Speaker 5: my work bag. It's actually to carry your work things
- 17:32Speaker 5: to and from work. If you carry a laptop. You
- 17:35Speaker 5: can claim shoes. We love shoes. We love shoes, except
- 17:38Speaker 5: you can only claim shoes if you're like a flight engine.
- 17:41Speaker 5: So it's not as good as what you would think,
- 17:43Speaker 5: like a good pair of Jimmy shoes ain't gonna happen.
- 17:45Speaker 5: This year for me or my tax return. If you
- 17:48Speaker 5: work outside, you can actually claim makeup that has SPF
- 17:51Speaker 5: in it.
- 17:51Speaker 4: Kind of cool, right wow.
- 17:53Speaker 5: And SPF related products because obviously if you are in
- 17:56Speaker 5: the no you know you should be wearing SBF.
- 17:58Speaker 1: But also if you outside you get a little cheeky
- 18:01Speaker 1: tax deduction on it because it's for your health. Cute
- 18:04Speaker 1: charity donations. Anything over two dollars you can claim, so
- 18:07Speaker 1: keep track of those. The interest you earn from your
- 18:10Speaker 1: investment income. That's very sexy. Sex toys, Georgia, you were
- 18:14Speaker 1: looking a little bit dry. Are all the things that
- 18:16Speaker 1: I was running through. So I'm just going to throw
- 18:18Speaker 1: that one in there.
- 18:19Speaker 2: Yep.
- 18:19Speaker 1: If you work in the adult entertainment industry, AA too
- 18:22Speaker 1: have a special guide about what you can claim. If
- 18:23Speaker 1: you're an adult industry worker, interesting claim things like dance
- 18:27Speaker 1: lessons or haircare or oils or tissues or lingerie or
- 18:30Speaker 1: costumes up to you. Kind of cool that you can
- 18:33Speaker 1: do that. Another one, garden gnomes? Do you want to
- 18:37Speaker 1: claim your garden gnomes? This obviously is its own dot
- 18:40Speaker 1: point in itself. Like this has made it as a
- 18:42Speaker 1: line item in our spreadsheet for this planning episode, but
- 18:45Speaker 1: landlord's very able to claim garden gnomes because obviously it
- 18:49Speaker 1: is a property related expense.
- 18:51Speaker 4: That is incredible. Wait, what's the deal with garden homes?
- 18:55Speaker 4: Are they I'm not get rid of snails or something.
- 18:58Speaker 1: I have no idea that a guard like a little scared.
- 19:02Speaker 1: Do you know?
- 19:02Speaker 5: There's this house that I walk past every single morning.
- 19:05Speaker 5: And if you live near me and you've seen me
- 19:06Speaker 5: walking in the morning, you know this house. You know
- 19:08Speaker 5: what I'm talking about. You walk past it, it's got
- 19:10Speaker 5: like a low picket fence, and then you look into
- 19:12Speaker 5: the garden and the entire front garden is like full
- 19:16Speaker 5: of garden gnomes. It's not that weird about that, so strange,
- 19:20Speaker 5: And this house also has like gargoyles on the top
- 19:23Speaker 5: of it.
- 19:23Speaker 1: It's kind of creepy. But the creepiest part about.
- 19:26Speaker 5: This is all of these garden homes have quite clearly
- 19:29Speaker 5: been very dodgily hand painted, so.
- 19:32Speaker 4: Like it's low pe creepy.
- 19:35Speaker 1: Joy.
- 19:36Speaker 4: No, but maybe they're just really smart when it comes
- 19:38Speaker 4: to tax stiff.
- 19:39Speaker 5: If that is your house, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
- 19:44Speaker 5: But then obviously there are some smart things that you
- 19:46Speaker 5: can claim. So if you've been working from home over
- 19:49Speaker 5: the last few years. You can claim your home internet
- 19:51Speaker 5: and any of those working from home expenses. Have a
- 19:53Speaker 5: look on the ATO website. There is an entire guide
- 19:57Speaker 5: for working from home and claiming what you can claim.
- 20:00Speaker 5: So two ways of going about it. You can either
- 20:02Speaker 5: claim a set amount or a CeNSE per dollar, and
- 20:06Speaker 5: I think you need to do the calculations on which
- 20:09Speaker 5: one works out better for you instead of just looking
- 20:11Speaker 5: at that big shiny set amount dollar and going let's
- 20:14Speaker 5: do that. So definitely have a look into that. You
- 20:16Speaker 5: can obviously also claim financial planning expenses and your accounting
- 20:19Speaker 5: fees and stuff like that, but there's an entire list.
- 20:22Speaker 5: There is a blog on our website that I wrote
- 20:23Speaker 5: a couple of years ago about what you can and
- 20:25Speaker 5: can't claim, so I would be checking that out.
- 20:27Speaker 1: George King.
- 20:27Speaker 4: You've also got subscriptions to work related magazines and journals
- 20:31Speaker 4: if you work in the media.
- 20:32Speaker 5: Yep, so like you can claim Vogue. Yes, thanks, I'm
- 20:35Speaker 5: gonna go sign up for that asap.
- 20:37Speaker 4: This is great. Before we move on v when we
- 20:39Speaker 4: say claim is a percentage of the cost of whatever
- 20:43Speaker 4: we bought and are claiming or paid for.
- 20:46Speaker 5: No, it's not going to ever be the whole thing.
- 20:48Speaker 5: It would be the tax component of that. So if
- 20:52Speaker 5: your marginal tax rate is thirty two cents in the dollar,
- 20:54Speaker 5: that is what you're claiming. You're not claiming like, oh
- 20:56Speaker 5: my god, I spend a dollar, I get the whole
- 20:58Speaker 5: dollar back it's free. Like that's not how tix works.
- 21:00Speaker 4: Perfect.
- 21:00Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm sorry.
- 21:01Speaker 4: Good to know. So V do we need to pay
- 21:04Speaker 4: tax if we receive gifts as payment? I'm talking about
- 21:08Speaker 4: influencers specifically.
- 21:11Speaker 5: It's such a thing to bring up as somebody who
- 21:14Speaker 5: does have a lot of clients who work in that
- 21:16Speaker 5: social media sphere and earn a lot of money but also.
- 21:20Speaker 1: Get a lot of gifts.
- 21:21Speaker 5: Yes, they are actually taxable, and I have actually spent
- 21:24Speaker 5: I think I mentioned this on the podcast last year.
- 21:26Speaker 5: I have been going back and forth with our lawyers
- 21:28Speaker 5: to work out how this works because it's such a
- 21:31Speaker 5: new space that the ATO hasn't come out and directly
- 21:34Speaker 5: said this is taxable. This is not because obviously, gee,
- 21:37Speaker 5: if I turned around and said, hey, gee, here's a
- 21:40Speaker 5: Listerine pocket pack of fresh breath strips, you are welcome.
- 21:44Speaker 5: That's like a genuine gift. But if an influencer given
- 21:47Speaker 5: that with the intention of posting about it and generating
- 21:50Speaker 5: incomes that is actually then taxable. So it's quite confusing.
- 21:54Speaker 5: And a couple of years ago I had a client
- 21:57Speaker 5: who ended up in a bit of a pickle because
- 22:00Speaker 5: they had been gifted this gorgeous bougie overseas holiday. It
- 22:05Speaker 5: was to a very big theme park in the US,
- 22:07Speaker 5: and that would be so fancy, you go, gee, do
- 22:11Speaker 5: you want to go to the theme park for free?
- 22:12Speaker 1: But tax time came. The atier knocked on their door
- 22:15Speaker 1: and said.
- 22:16Speaker 5: Hey, we saw you did your tax, but we didn't
- 22:19Speaker 5: see that trip that we saw on your Instagram. Could
- 22:22Speaker 5: you let us know how much it was worth because
- 22:24Speaker 5: you have to pay the tax component of that.
- 22:26Speaker 4: It's insane.
- 22:27Speaker 5: Yes, So it is very complex when it comes to gifts.
- 22:31Speaker 5: If your parents want to give you money and stuff
- 22:34Speaker 5: like that, let's strip it back to non influencer life. No,
- 22:37Speaker 5: gift money doesn't form part of your accessible income, so
- 22:40Speaker 5: you don't have to declare it. Regardless of the amount,
- 22:42Speaker 5: whether it was a dollar or five million dollars, you
- 22:45Speaker 5: don't have to do that. However, if it is something
- 22:48Speaker 5: that was used to generate income, that is where tax
- 22:51Speaker 5: does come into it, and that's where influencers actually need
- 22:54Speaker 5: to be kind of careful. Obviously this is very niche content,
- 22:57Speaker 5: but even if you're a baby content creator, like you
- 23:00Speaker 5: need to be making sure that if you're agreeing for
- 23:02Speaker 5: a sponsorship with a company or a paid collaboration, if
- 23:06Speaker 5: they're just gifting you products, they need to take care
- 23:09Speaker 5: of the tax component of that, because it shouldn't be
- 23:12Speaker 5: on you to like take their product, post about it.
- 23:15Speaker 1: And then at tax time have to pay. Like that's
- 23:18Speaker 1: a lot.
- 23:19Speaker 4: The other thing as well to remember, guys, is that
- 23:21Speaker 4: we do need to be paying tax on our investments,
- 23:24Speaker 4: and we did a whole episode on that. Listen back
- 23:27Speaker 4: to our Reporting season ep if you haven't already any.
- 23:30Speaker 1: Years of episodes.
- 23:32Speaker 5: June is always so dense when it comes to content.
- 23:36Speaker 5: Sorry not sorry, Let's have some like fluffy July episodes
- 23:39Speaker 5: for them.
- 23:39Speaker 1: We'll plan those later.
- 23:40Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, all right, V. When is the right time
- 23:44Speaker 4: to put our tax in the hands of the professionals
- 23:46Speaker 4: versus just doing it ourselves.
- 23:48Speaker 5: When you feel comfortable to do so. I think there
- 23:51Speaker 5: is a very good reason why more than seventy five
- 23:53Speaker 5: percent of Australians actually use a tax agent to do
- 23:56Speaker 5: their tax returns. And that's because tax is arguably not
- 23:59Speaker 5: very sick. If you don't know exactly what you can claim,
- 24:02Speaker 5: you actually might be missing out on some sweet returns,
- 24:05Speaker 5: and if you do get it wrong, you could be
- 24:07Speaker 5: in for some pretty hefty fines. So from my perspective,
- 24:10Speaker 5: it does pay to talk to somebody who knows what
- 24:12Speaker 5: they're talking about when it comes to tax. It's also
- 24:14Speaker 5: just really important to feel empowered through that process. I
- 24:18Speaker 5: know it can be expensive, but don't forget that. You know,
- 24:20Speaker 5: if you're paying somebody two hundred and fifty dollars to
- 24:23Speaker 5: do your tax return, that two hundred and fifty dollars
- 24:25Speaker 5: next year can be claimed, So it's not as big
- 24:27Speaker 5: of a cost as you might think it is. But
- 24:31Speaker 5: also usually an accountant's probably going to be able to
- 24:33Speaker 5: find two hundred and fifty dollars worth of claims for
- 24:36Speaker 5: you that you probably weren't able to find yourself.
- 24:38Speaker 4: If I'm being spased for itself.
- 24:40Speaker 1: Yeah, like hopefully.
- 24:41Speaker 5: And basically, the only way to get definitive tax return
- 24:45Speaker 5: advice is from a registered professional, Like you can't just
- 24:48Speaker 5: jump on the ATR website and read all their blog
- 24:49Speaker 5: articles and be like, yep, cool, I read that, guys.
- 24:51Speaker 5: That's why I claimed it, like a tax professional is
- 24:54Speaker 5: going to actually be able to put you in the
- 24:56Speaker 5: best possible position.
- 24:57Speaker 4: Before we head v Was there anything else we should
- 25:00Speaker 4: keep in mind?
- 25:01Speaker 5: Yes, my friend, so you know how he said, Obviously
- 25:04Speaker 5: June thirty, you can't lodge it on the day if
- 25:06Speaker 5: you don't have.
- 25:06Speaker 4: Your group certificates.
- 25:08Speaker 5: Is actually a date that you need to be aware of,
- 25:10Speaker 5: and that is the thirty first of October. You need
- 25:12Speaker 5: to lodge your tax returns before then. You might be
- 25:15Speaker 5: able to be eligible for an extension beyond that date
- 25:18Speaker 5: if you are registered with a tax accountant by the
- 25:20Speaker 5: thirty first of October. But if you aren't registered and
- 25:23Speaker 5: you haven't done your tax you might be up for
- 25:25Speaker 5: some penalties, which is not very good. I would factor
- 25:28Speaker 5: in about two weeks for your tax return to come through.
- 25:30Speaker 5: And the other thing is don't pester to your tax
- 25:33Speaker 5: accountant when it's actually gone through.
- 25:34Speaker 1: They can't tell you the progress. There's no progress updating.
- 25:37Speaker 1: There's no like logging into the ATO portal to see
- 25:39Speaker 1: status like it will just be done when it's done.
- 25:42Speaker 1: So I'm just quick shout out for all the accounts
- 25:44Speaker 1: in our community who are probably sick of people, you know,
- 25:47Speaker 1: two days after their tax return has been lodged to
- 25:49Speaker 1: be asked, oh my, oh gee, where's the app? They
- 25:51Speaker 1: don't know, they don't know, they can't see it.
- 25:53Speaker 4: Sorry.
- 25:53Speaker 1: Sorry.
- 25:54Speaker 5: And then also COVID nineteen is not going to change
- 25:56Speaker 5: those dates, so it's just standard procedure for lodging tax
- 25:59Speaker 5: returns this year.
- 26:00Speaker 4: Moral of the story, paying tax is a privilege, don't
- 26:03Speaker 4: play seek privilege, Like.
- 26:05Speaker 1: Let's change our mindset around this.
- 26:07Speaker 5: I've said it a million times on the broadcast, like
- 26:10Speaker 5: how lucky are we to live in a country where
- 26:13Speaker 5: we have access to absolutely everything that we have access
- 26:16Speaker 5: to and the support we have access to, and that's
- 26:19Speaker 5: what tax affords us.
- 26:20Speaker 1: Like it's sick. I think it's great.
- 26:22Speaker 4: So but you said earlier, don't stress if you haven't
- 26:25Speaker 4: lodged your tax because you won't go to jail. It
- 26:27Speaker 4: might all even now out of jail.
- 26:29Speaker 5: The atier is going to come down on me for
- 26:30Speaker 5: saying that as well, because you should have done it
- 26:32Speaker 5: by the thirty first of October. Obviously you could be
- 26:35Speaker 5: up for some penalties.
- 26:36Speaker 4: When you say penalties what does that mean?
- 26:37Speaker 1: Fine, fine money, honey. Look, they can be hefty demands.
- 26:40Speaker 1: How much tax you've avoided? My friends?
- 26:42Speaker 5: Okay, but at the end of the day, I don't
- 26:44Speaker 5: want you to be stressing if you haven't done it.
- 26:47Speaker 5: I just want you to pull your finger out and
- 26:48Speaker 5: get it done. This year, we say the thirty first
- 26:51Speaker 5: of October because that's the date that after that date
- 26:53Speaker 5: you'll start to get penalties and the atier might chase
- 26:55Speaker 5: you for doing that, and like people have gotten letters
- 26:58Speaker 5: before for you know, not lodging their tax. But I
- 27:01Speaker 5: would just be trying to do it by that date,
- 27:03Speaker 5: getting it done, and if you haven't done your tax
- 27:05Speaker 5: from last year, just maybe pulling your finger out and
- 27:07Speaker 5: speaking to an accountant, because they are going to be
- 27:10Speaker 5: the ones that are got to put you in the
- 27:11Speaker 5: best possible position to avoid having any penalties to actually
- 27:15Speaker 5: pay on that, because they'll go.
- 27:16Speaker 1: Look, we're just organizing it for them.
- 27:18Speaker 4: Perfect easy, easy, easy peace.
- 27:21Speaker 5: Let's wrap the even more boring but important stuff.
- 27:24Speaker 4: That's the way already.
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