Latest / The Kink Consultant / Ep 27 - Storytelling, Sex, and Safe Words: Exploring Kink and Intimacy with Nik the Forge Bear
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- 0:08It's the King Consultant podcast where we're turning up the heat
- 0:11on all things kink and dating, relationships and pop culture.
- 0:14So close the door, plug in your headphones, and let's get down
- 0:17to it. Hello and welcome to this week's
- 0:25episode of The King Consultant. I am delighted to be joined by a
- 0:30friend and one of my favorite content creators.
- 0:33And I don't say that lightly. One of my favorite content
- 0:36creators, Nick the Forge Bear. That is how I refer to you in my
- 0:41head. What do you go by?
- 0:43Most everybody just refers to me as Nick.
- 0:45So you are a storyteller of all kinds.
- 0:48You are on multiple platforms. But let's talk about Quinn.
- 0:52Start with them last year. I think it's been about a year
- 0:55and a half at this point, yeah. Tell us what Quinn is.
- 0:58The elevator pitch I like to use is that Quinn is Netflix for
- 1:03smut, for erotica. When it comes to audio, it is a
- 1:07platform form that really enables people to investigate
- 1:10and appreciate their fantasies, maybe discover new things about
- 1:13themselves and do it from both the comfort of their own
- 1:17earbuds, but also in a way that is far more intimate than a lot
- 1:21of other erotica presents itself.
- 1:23And with a platform like that, I have always been a fan of audio
- 1:28erotica and the fact that it speaks to the largest sex organ
- 1:32that we have our brains. And there's something so
- 1:36beautiful and and intimate and empowering about being able to
- 1:41record something and know that the only person who's going to
- 1:44know what's being said or what you're listening to or hearing
- 1:47what you're hearing is us that it's an intimate exchange.
- 1:50And during that, I have the ability to build up your
- 1:54confidence. I have the ability to speak to
- 1:56you about your own inner or exterior beauty.
- 1:59I have the ability to acknowledge your sexual
- 2:02fantasies and your sexual independence and sometimes maybe
- 2:06give you an idea you want to try out.
- 2:08You're inspiring further intimacy through that.
- 2:11Oh, it's the worst. Oh, it's the worst.
- 2:13What a terrible job. How do you?
- 2:15I get that comment a lot. I get a lot of leave some of
- 2:19them for us. And I'm like, Oh no, I'm not on
- 2:22here for me to get anything. I'm on here for me to plant the
- 2:26seeds that will be carried out into the world by other people.
- 2:30And those other people will act upon their impulses and know
- 2:33what they want, and know how to talk about what they want and
- 2:36how to get it. So many things you've just said.
- 2:38I'm like, yes, talk about what you want, learn how to get what
- 2:42you want, inspire. Do people tell you like, Oh my
- 2:45God, you opened up my world. You changed how I view sex?
- 2:49Like do you get feedback like that?
- 2:51There's always going to be a mix of feedback, right?
- 2:54You're always going to have certain people who are like, oh,
- 2:56this is amazing. Oh, this little cringe, oh this,
- 2:59so that or the other thing. But the stuff that resonates the
- 3:02most with me is when I do have people coming to me, when I have
- 3:05husbands who are like, my wife told me this was my homework.
- 3:09And so I listened to this audio that you did and I just wanted
- 3:12to say thank you because it reinvigorated our intimacy or
- 3:15oh, this gave me an idea that I'm not the only one who likes
- 3:19this. And so it's OK for me to, Oh my
- 3:22goodness. The conversations alone about
- 3:24stuff like female masturbation, like talking about oral
- 3:29predilections or being with the idea of there being a delay in
- 3:34gratification for any penis owner.
- 3:36These are conversations that don't have commonplace, but if
- 3:40you sneak them in to entertainment, real sneaky, like
- 3:44it starts something that oftentimes has a tendency to
- 3:47catch and influence people in the right way and usually
- 3:52towards their benefits. So a lot of my favorite
- 3:55conversations, a lot of the conversations that keep me
- 3:58punching the clock of audio porn, as it were, is the
- 4:02conversations where it's like you helped you educated, you
- 4:05inspired, you made it so that I had to at home and just pounce
- 4:08on my husband. And I'm like, I'll count that as
- 4:11a win. I'll count that as a win.
- 4:13Fucking win for sure. Sex is happening because you're
- 4:17out here doing your job. Good sex is happening because
- 4:20you're out here doing your job. I will take that victory lap
- 4:23right now. I mean, that'll eat into your
- 4:25podcast time, but I'll do it. It's fine.
- 4:28No, it's worth it because I always say I just want people to
- 4:31have good sex. So yes, I focus on kink, but for
- 4:34me, kink and sex are intertwined.
- 4:36And like what I ultimately want is people to have better
- 4:38connection. But you know the quick and dirty
- 4:40way to say that is good sex. You're out here doing it.
- 4:43I have a follow up question for you.
- 4:45I want your origin story because ultimately I want to know.
- 4:47Did you start by calling yourself an educator?
- 4:50And we've talked about this before when I came on your
- 4:53Wednesday Live Like the turn educator.
- 4:55That's a big title to carry. It is my formal training was in
- 4:59psychology to begin. I'm still expanding my
- 5:01knowledge, right? Because as as any educator will
- 5:05tell you that if they're not constantly trying to inform
- 5:09themselves, then how are they supposed to provide the best
- 5:11information for those people who put themselves in your care,
- 5:14whether you want to refer to them as students or whatever.
- 5:17But educating, informing, counseling.
- 5:20I know that I blanche at the term influencer because I think
- 5:25it's one that gets thrown around too often and has really
- 5:28conformed to some oddities when it comes to the Internet age.
- 5:32But I appreciate being an educator and a instigator.
- 5:37I will do something to elicit response, to make you think
- 5:41about something in a way that you may not have before.
- 5:43And usually with education, we have the classroom set up, even
- 5:47take it so far back as the Socratic amphitheater where you
- 5:51stand at the at the bottom and your voice resonates throughout
- 5:54the hall. Being that person and being able
- 5:57to speak to people who looking at you, that are taking it in,
- 6:00that are making opinions on the spot is a lot different than we
- 6:03find ourselves in right now. Being digital educators where
- 6:06we're talking at a camera, right?
- 6:09Not knowing who's going to pick up, who's going to be watching
- 6:12the video or flip by it too quickly.
- 6:14And so we need to be able to take that as an opportunity,
- 6:19one, to make the most informed and educated statements
- 6:24possible, but two, do it in a way that doesn't alienate the
- 6:28listener or viewer because oftentimes nobody likes being
- 6:32talked down to. Everybody has a favorite
- 6:34educator, but everybody also has a least favorite educator.
- 6:37And I want to fall somewhere closer to the former and not the
- 6:41latter. I read constantly.
- 6:43I'm constantly listening to podcasts, I'm constantly
- 6:46listening to audiobooks. I'm constantly trying to take
- 6:49more and more in. And that started at a very early
- 6:51age where and very quiet and lonely afternoons at a very
- 6:56large library, which is why I call the communities that I form
- 7:00libraries. I found myself in the sexual
- 7:03health section out of pure curiosity.
- 7:06And before I knew it, I was not simply being, oh, titillated by
- 7:11the information, but I started gathering it and started making
- 7:14the connections and started looking at it from perspective
- 7:16of these are the base practices of a civilization, a society,
- 7:21and a species that really has the ability to better itself
- 7:27through these Interment interactions and better
- 7:30understand everyone through these intimacies and being frank
- 7:35and honest about them. So I don't take educator
- 7:38lightly. I don't think you do either.
- 7:41But I'm honored when people inform me that I am 1 and when
- 7:45they ask me if I am, I simply say I am an educator in
- 7:48progress. I am working on it.
- 7:50I am trying to make sure that no matter what conversation we have
- 7:54that we both step away from it being a little bit better than
- 7:57where we started out. I like educator in progress.
- 8:00I, you know, I do and ask me anything Monday on Instagram and
- 8:04I let people ask you questions and you know, you give a 15
- 8:07second response. And then sometimes Instagrams
- 8:10like this story did well post it as a reel and you don't edit it.
- 8:13You just put it up. And I did that recently about
- 8:16brats and I just I called out Ian Doms.
- 8:19What I hate is some of my most inflammatory, least educated
- 8:23videos that I just like threw out.
- 8:24I was like, oh, that was funny and true.
- 8:26End up being some of the most popular.
- 8:28So that's another piece of the social media thing.
- 8:30It's like no one's worried about how well informed or educated I
- 8:33am at the forefront. It's only as that message
- 8:35penetrates that you have to be concerned with like, well, where
- 8:38did this person learn? And now I have to go back and
- 8:40make like kind of an apology video, which is I'm too late in
- 8:43doing, but I will still do of hey, I also, I didn't want to
- 8:47skip over the fact that you need to negotiate being a brat before
- 8:50we get to this stage. It's mixing in the message of
- 8:52consistently pushing negotiation and all of the base things that
- 8:56sometimes I take for granted. And then also being informative
- 9:00and catching. One of the things you said is
- 9:02you don't know how long they're going to watch your video for.
- 9:04It could be 5 seconds. We live in the age of flash in
- 9:07the pan information where you and I are battling uphill.
- 9:12We are because a lot of people live in a world where visual
- 9:16learners, a lot of people are drawn to motion, to brightness,
- 9:21to vivid display. So we're battling in order to
- 9:26present information. We're battling Hollywood and
- 9:29things like the 50 shade series or the movie Baby Girl and stuff
- 9:32like that. We're battling the untold
- 9:36terabytes of quick produced show intimacy through all of the
- 9:42websites that are out there. And So what do we have to do?
- 9:45We have to do our very best, be succinct, be honest, be
- 9:49informative. They're going to be times where
- 9:51we stumble over stuff. They're going to be times where
- 9:52people call us out. And it's moments like that where
- 9:55we have to be capable of being like, OK, you know what though,
- 9:58I'm human, but so are you. You want to call me out on my
- 10:01behavior, that's fine. But you said it yourself, facing
- 10:05fake Doms is a situation that if I had a nickel for every, every
- 10:09single time a fake Dom told me that safe words were
- 10:11unnecessary, I wouldn't have to work anymore.
- 10:14Yeah, because I would own a mansion in a yacht and a base on
- 10:17the moon. We're working against the toxic
- 10:21sexualities. We're working against the
- 10:23uninformed, the uninformed who are so longing for that
- 10:28connection and thinking that the only way to have that connection
- 10:32is for them to completely and utterly control it so that they
- 10:37can say they won. You know, in a very strange way,
- 10:40but they're trying to say that they won because there's a
- 10:42perception through performative sexual acts on the Internet,
- 10:46there's a perception that there's a way of winning.
- 10:49And whether that be to be the first one who has an orgasm or
- 10:53whatever exists in their minds, it's something we we're working
- 10:57against. And hopefully, hopefully we'll,
- 10:59we'll win the battle, but it's, it's uphill.
- 11:01That's an interesting perspective because maybe it's
- 11:03from the female perspective. I've always got felt that a Dom
- 11:07is like, they feel the fake ones.
- 11:09It's like they found a cheat code.
- 11:10That's what I feel is happening. They're like, oh, this is a
- 11:13cheat code to getting what I want.
- 11:14But to your point, getting what you want is their version of
- 11:17winning Whatever they've put the prize on.
- 11:20Like whatever they think the prize is, they're deciding it's
- 11:24sex. Having someone acquiesce to
- 11:27their demands, having someone willing to get completely naked.
- 11:31I mean there is for fake doms. There is a lot of mental
- 11:35territory and and egotistical real estate that has gained and
- 11:38by being able to tell somebody to get on their knees and give
- 11:43them a blowjob, right. That in and of itself is
- 11:45considered what it's considered a dominant, a powerful, a
- 11:50controlling position by a lot of men, whether they consider
- 11:54themselves doms or not. There is subcultures of the
- 11:57uninformed sexual individuals out there who are like, this is
- 12:01the height. There are people who are like, I
- 12:03collect videos of all of the people that I've received
- 12:06blowjobs from and you're like, but what did you for them in
- 12:09return? Nothing.
- 12:11Why not? Well, wasn't that enough for
- 12:13them? And you have to take pause and
- 12:15you have to look at it and you have to go, okay, this is what
- 12:17we're working against. This is what we're trying to
- 12:19counter educate. All right, Kingster, let's talk
- 12:24about pleasure. Not just mine.
- 12:27Yours too. If you're enjoying this episode
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- 12:32I promise it'll feel oh so good. Take a second and give this
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- 12:40all over that fifth star, pressing down, giving it exactly
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- 12:46Yeah, that's it. And you know what happens when
- 12:49you do? I get all hot and bothered
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- 12:57somewhere gets that spanking they've been begging for.
- 13:01So be a good listener and tap that star, won't you?
- 13:04Thanks, love. Now let's get back to the fun.
- 13:11It's it's like people think that they're the entire equation when
- 13:14they're really just one side of it.
- 13:16To your point and I, I don't want to only call out men for
- 13:20this because I will say yesterday I met a sub, we met
- 13:23for coffee. I said, you know, if we were to
- 13:25pursue something, if we were to be anything or play together, I
- 13:28was like, I want you to tell me about your day.
- 13:29I want to know. And he was shocked that I would
- 13:32take an interest in his life at all.
- 13:34So like, I dug in a little bit and I just realized, wow, this
- 13:37is happening. A lot of people are taking the
- 13:39Dom title and the keyword there is taking.
- 13:41They are take, take, take and forgetting that this is it's a
- 13:44symbiotic relationship. You can't just take from someone
- 13:46and expect them to just give. And for some people, sure that's
- 13:49their kink, but even more so then you should know what's
- 13:52going on in their lives in my humble opinion.
- 13:55There's this lack of understanding.
- 13:57I feel like because I've encountered this as a Dom
- 14:00myself, the I don't need to inform him.
- 14:03He'll just know the I can spring it on him when he's not
- 14:08expecting it. This will be OK because there
- 14:11is, there's that assumption that Dom space is full time.
- 14:15This is not, I am not dealing with somebody with emotional
- 14:19equity. I'm not dealing with somebody
- 14:20who has empathy, who was approaching me with his
- 14:23sincerity. This is Daddy, this is master,
- 14:26This is Sir. This is ma'am, right?
- 14:29This is Mistress. Doesn't matter which, right?
- 14:32As one of my friends refers to her position as a Dom, she who
- 14:36wields the strap. There's a space where Dom's
- 14:38occupy where it's like we're going to do what needs to be
- 14:42done. We're going to take care of our
- 14:44sub. We're going to be able to give
- 14:45them what they want. We're going to we're going to
- 14:47know the phrases, we're going to know the honorifics.
- 14:49We're going to know the steps in order to make you be able to
- 14:52disassociate from the chaos of everything out there.
- 14:57And focus is full body experience that you're having.
- 15:00But like, hey, you want to ask me, Maybe I want, you know, a
- 15:03bottled water afterwards, you know, you know, Nick, the Dom is
- 15:06putting in a lot of work here, babe.
- 15:08Maybe I need a hug. You know, maybe it's like ask me
- 15:11about my day. See what video games I'm playing
- 15:13this weekend. Yes, because you're not a kink
- 15:15dispenser. In both regards, it's a matter
- 15:18of recognizing the sexual symbiosis that exists right, and
- 15:22being able to realize that we both feed off of and are feeding
- 15:26the needs, the desires. The fantasy is the people that
- 15:30we are interacting with. Listen, you can have a scene
- 15:32with one play friend, you can have a scene with 14 play
- 15:35friends. But what you're going to do is
- 15:36you're going to do, you're going to approach it with honesty,
- 15:38sincerity. You're going to trust those
- 15:40people you're with. You're going to just drop all of
- 15:42the the extemporaneous bullshit that you have to carry around in
- 15:46order to work your 9 to 5 and so on and so forth.
- 15:48You're going to leave all that behind and you're going to be
- 15:50this honest, pure version of yourself who's seeking to
- 15:54provide and receive pleasure and that can extend beyond the
- 15:58scene. So, so it it just trying to
- 16:01trying to handle that in a healthy framework is a little
- 16:03bit difficult sometimes and tricky.
- 16:05How do you vet your Subs or potential play partners?
- 16:09What's your vet? Oh, it can be varied.
- 16:11There can be phone conversations to take place beforehand.
- 16:14I had one person who was more comfortable with e-mail
- 16:17correspondence. It's depending on what the Subs
- 16:20looking to receive. Some Subs are looking for
- 16:23somebody to sex them some, some are looking for purely phone
- 16:27sex. Some are looking for in the
- 16:29digital age, you know, you have the ability, you have the
- 16:31flexibility to kind of like approach those different things
- 16:34and really encapsulate them and genuinely do it.
- 16:38At what time and in what space is most comfortable for this
- 16:42sub? But I like to be exceedingly
- 16:45thorough. I, I ask a lot of questions.
- 16:47I approach it from almost a clinical mentality or standpoint
- 16:51when it comes to understanding what are you looking to get out
- 16:55of this? What are your key fantasies?
- 16:58What are the things that entice you?
- 17:00What are the things that make you recoil?
- 17:03We talked about it. The yucks and yums, the green
- 17:06lights, the yellow lights, the red lights.
- 17:08It's Where are your boundaries? This is a question that sounds
- 17:11like I'm in a job interview, but what are you hoping to
- 17:13accomplish? 1 sub wants to be haunted
- 17:17through the woods, to be caught, to be taken to be.
- 17:21And this word might might make a couple of people blanch but to
- 17:24be bred, you know, to be owned, but for it to be done by someone
- 17:28they can trust somebody. This is possibly my emergency
- 17:31contact who you calling to pick you up from getting your dental
- 17:34work done. Oh my my Dom wait what?
- 17:36But it is it's that finding somebody who you can trust with
- 17:39those levels of intimacy. Trying to find somebody who
- 17:43because we we live in such a disconnected world that being
- 17:45able to find someone who can keep discretion when it comes to
- 17:49the things that you hold most close to your chest is
- 17:53difficult. But when you find somebody like
- 17:56that, it's rewarding. So I am very just funny to say,
- 17:59given my predilections, I'm very gentle about it.
- 18:02I, I take an approach of asking a lot of questions, doing a lot
- 18:05of comfort talking through breathing exercises.
- 18:08I've done the coffee sit downs, I've done the phone calls.
- 18:11But it always is a couple of very large and involved
- 18:15conversations. And then the first session is
- 18:17always something that's very subtle and slow and intentional
- 18:22and commutative, because the potential for that being
- 18:27involved and rewarding is infinite.
- 18:30Yes, so long as the schedule's wide open.
- 18:32But the lead up, you know, it's giving your hand, it's placing
- 18:37your physical well-being in the hands of a stranger.
- 18:41I would like to think that all Doms take that very seriously.
- 18:45I think that's probably how I define a real Dom from a fake
- 18:48Dom is taking that part seriously building that trust.
- 18:51And you mentioned this is something that it took me way
- 18:54too long to learn. The first session is just sort
- 18:57of like a progressive part of the vetting process because you
- 19:01shouldn't go from zero to 100 because 100 reads something you
- 19:05don't want. And I'd rather catch it at 0 to
- 19:0820 and be like, actually, I wasn't so into that part.
- 19:11And that is something that I learned more in my 30s than in
- 19:15my 20s, I will say that. I mean, and that doesn't that
- 19:18just kind of speak to sexual education when it comes to the
- 19:22by and large. But yeah, it's a journey that we
- 19:25all kind of take. It is an understanding that we
- 19:27all kind of reach and that first session.
- 19:30It can be, it can be a nail biter.
- 19:32I had a sub who was 5 foot one, right, 100 and something pounds.
- 19:38This was had certain issues with musculature and disability.
- 19:42And so we were kind of like we were talking our way through the
- 19:44thing and very nervous. But I had done my very best to
- 19:47do what I always do and ease our way into the butterflies, the
- 19:51shakes. I was a nervous rack through
- 19:53session one because I'm like, OK, we're if it's nice and slow,
- 19:56we're going to go 234 real quick pumps and we're going to go nice
- 20:00and we're going to go shallow. And then maybe we'll work a
- 20:02little bit more in like, how are we doing?
- 20:04How are we? And I'm sitting there going, I
- 20:06feel like a swim instructor. I feel like I'm holding a human
- 20:11being in the water and I'm like, OK, I'm going to let go.
- 20:14Now, funny enough, this is a person who we ended up
- 20:18developing quite the interaction.
- 20:20We had quite a few sessions and they got more progressively and
- 20:24progressively. More impactful, both
- 20:27psychologically, but also physically, you know, and it was
- 20:30like it got to a point where there's this, these
- 20:33conversations about I want to be able to call you this.
- 20:36I want to be able to do that. I found myself in that situation
- 20:38starting out being like, I'm just, I just want to do a good
- 20:41job. And, you know, please leave me a
- 20:43very good Yelp review. And then and then that
- 20:46individual 6-8, it was about nine months later being like, I
- 20:50want to have AC and C scene. I want you to just run, push,
- 20:56open the front door, tumble through the living space, tear
- 20:59my clothes off, throw me up against surfaces.
- 21:01And then it's like growl at me, you know, I want a couple of
- 21:05bite marks on me afterwards. And that's the progression.
- 21:08You know, if you move slowly, if you move with respect and with
- 21:12communication, Subs, doms, everybody's going to come away
- 21:16from the situation. Switches.
- 21:17Everybody's going to come away from the situation feeling more
- 21:20and more emboldened, but also because of that level of comfort
- 21:23and trust. Yeah, you're literally the word
- 21:26I thought of is you're empowering your partner.
- 21:29If you the most slow steps forward, both people end up more
- 21:32empowered. Did you know going in she would
- 21:34ever ask for a CNC? No, this was somebody who was so
- 21:39funny, and I'm sure you can relate to this.
- 21:41It was somebody who was like, oh, I'm very vanilla, Let's talk
- 21:44about that. Well, I'm vanilla, but I've
- 21:47always thought about having somebody masturbate me.
- 21:50Well, my hands were tied above my head.
- 21:51OK, Vanilla's over here. You've stepped very firmly into
- 21:56territory. OK.
- 21:57Also, every so often, you know, my friends talk about female
- 22:00ejaculation and I don't know what that's about.
- 22:02Do you know anything about that? Yeah.
- 22:04It's the slow and steady steps. And it's like making any big
- 22:08decision. It's like skydiving.
- 22:09It's that you take the small steps towards the edge because
- 22:13you still kind of like, yes, I am wearing.
- 22:15I do have protection. I do have this sense about it.
- 22:19But I'm getting closer and closer to this thing that my
- 22:21brain is panicking about. But if I'm comforted, if I'm
- 22:24reassured, if I am built up as a person with my own independence,
- 22:29then I'm going to feel more and more comfortable getting closer
- 22:31and closer to that edge and eventually jumping out without a
- 22:34fear of actual danger, even if the eventual is the implication
- 22:40of danger, Right? It's the CNCC going from I'm a
- 22:43vanilla, I'm a vanilla, I'm a vanilla sub to, you know, to
- 22:47somebody who didn't really know the implications is the word
- 22:50suburb what it meant to. I've always had this fantasy
- 22:53about a man of your stature taking me almost violently and
- 22:59doing what they wanted to with me.
- 23:01So you're like, OK, but also we can do AC and C scene.
- 23:04But I also know what toy you like, where you like it.
- 23:08I'm going to be able to incorporate that into it without
- 23:11verbally communicating, knowing if anything goes wrong or you
- 23:15get in your head about something or you end up having an anxiety
- 23:19attack, you're going to be able to tell me or indicate to me.
- 23:21You're going to have a safe sign.
- 23:22You're going to have a safe word.
- 23:23And we're going to be able to roll that down to 0 miles an
- 23:27hour real quick. You know it's human connection
- 23:29on probably the most beautiful and most anxiety inducing of
- 23:35levels. It's rare that I am speechless,
- 23:38truly. Like I always have something to
- 23:40say and what I'm going to say is this now, This is why you're one
- 23:43of my favorite creators because you're not just a storyteller.
- 23:47No, I know I'm going to fangirl for a second.
- 23:48Allow me, first of all, your ability to build your analogies
- 23:53and visual world creating of the way you just seamlessly
- 23:56explained and went from skydiving to kink and how I
- 23:59perfectly understood those two top notch, 100% five gold stars.
- 24:04And it seems small that I don't think you understood what you
- 24:06just said. The thing about it, though, is
- 24:09that, right we're these beautiful, complex, perfectly
- 24:12imperfect beings, right, who live in a world where we got to
- 24:15pay taxes. We got to do the 9:00 to 5:00.
- 24:17We got to make sure that we know exactly where we're getting the
- 24:20next meal from and navigating the social graces of the world
- 24:23at the same time. We comfort ourselves with
- 24:26stories. We comfort ourselves with the
- 24:29fantasy, with the removal from the reality and but being able
- 24:33to be a storyteller and an educator at the same time,
- 24:36educating through the story, having a having a quote UN quote
- 24:40moral to the story is kind of the icing on the cake.
- 24:43I know you know that we from day-to-day, we face chaos and
- 24:48uncertainty and we don't know sometimes how the day is going
- 24:52to end, but being able to at times just be able to remove
- 24:55ourselves from that and be able to be comforted by it.
- 24:57And we do that both through the fantastical, through quote UN
- 25:02quote, the nerdy shit, through sport and physical activity and
- 25:06all these other things. But we also do it through to
- 25:09sex. Yes.
- 25:11We're able to recenter and recalibrate ourselves through
- 25:15sexual gratification and pleasure.
- 25:17I'm also still thinking about everything you just said.
- 25:19The way you sprinkled in safe words, the way you sprinkled in
- 25:22someone else's pleasure into that.
- 25:25Those are the building blocks to a great scene.
- 25:27Knowing those things exist and having spent time learning them
- 25:30and how to use them. Both safe words and toys and
- 25:33knowing. And I think I think what's
- 25:35interesting about you and I have in this conversation, and I
- 25:38think that you can state this from your unique perspective and
- 25:41I can state it from mine. But I think a thing that needs
- 25:44to be hammered home, a thing that needs to be talked about is
- 25:47flying in the face of what I've labeled as performative
- 25:50pornography. Recognizing that you providing
- 25:54pleasure or understanding the pleasure of another person and
- 25:58being able to provide that experience for them is not only
- 26:02going to one want them to make them want to reciprocate, but
- 26:05it's also going to make them want to keep coming back and
- 26:09trust that link and reassert themselves in that intimate
- 26:14bond. It's not a one and done, it's
- 26:16not a Wham bam, thank you ma'am. It's a constant growth that
- 26:19keeps pulling you back in in the best way.
- 26:21Maybe I'm speaking for myself. The Wham, the bam, and the thank
- 26:24you ma'am has never been as wonderful as everybody who makes
- 26:28it out to be. It's too much to the assumption,
- 26:30not enough of the actual practice, and we build better as
- 26:34people when we are allowed to not be weighing our fuck impulse
- 26:40against our fight impulse and our flight impulse.
- 26:42You know what I mean? I should be capable of trusting
- 26:44somebody who is not only naked with me, but is handling the
- 26:48most delicate parts of my anatomy.
- 26:51I know you are quite literally exposed and vulnerable.
- 26:55I mentioned before this this sub sect of Venus owning culture
- 26:59where it's like my ultimate goal is to rack up blowjobs from
- 27:03people who are willing to give them to me.
- 27:05I want you to pump the frickin brakes and think about the fact
- 27:08that you have now put your penis in somebody's mouth and that
- 27:11you're you're you're taking your life into your own hands on that
- 27:14one. What is the connection?
- 27:15I might be saying to the sub on your knees, open your mouth.
- 27:20But if I am doing that, is it because I want it or is it
- 27:24because it's something that I know that they want and it they
- 27:27incorporate it into the sexual experience?
- 27:29As a Dom, you have to be willing to understand the perspective of
- 27:34the person on their knees as much as you understand that the
- 27:37persona of the person standing standing above them.
- 27:39Because if you're not willing to understand both of those angles,
- 27:42all you're going to be is the guy who wanted me to suck his
- 27:47Dick. That's how you're going down in
- 27:48the group chat. It might have felt good now, but
- 27:51think about the evisceration you're about to have on
- 27:54iMessage. I'm sorry.
- 27:56Just wanted to add a bit of levity to that because that's
- 27:59everything you said is true. I sent you a text and your phone
- 28:02lit up and it was just the #3 and the little squirt emoji.
- 28:05What does that mean? Oh you know, we're far more
- 28:10complex and beautiful individuals than that.
- 28:12We are far more messy at times, just stunning.
- 28:16And the fact that people oversimplify, yes, especially
- 28:20when it comes to sex is mind numbing.
- 28:23It is truly shocking the yarn we would have to unwrap.
- 28:27Like to go back and find out where that comes from is too
- 28:30much for today's episode. OK, I have one last question for
- 28:33you. I ask a lot of people this and I
- 28:36I'm really interested in your what advice do you have for
- 28:39someone who's kinky and they want to explore it and they just
- 28:43don't know where to start? Find people like you and I,
- 28:46Amanda, do your research. I started mine at an age where I
- 28:51was in a puritanical space where sex was not to be had unless it
- 28:56was for procreation, where we did not talk about that.
- 28:59We did not engage in that conversation.
- 29:01And I had to go out on my own and I had to find the
- 29:04information and I was nervous and I was constantly worried
- 29:07that a librarian was going to stumble across.
- 29:09And what are you doing here? The information is there.
- 29:12There are sources. The Hirschfeld Institute of
- 29:151919, the Kinsey Institute, the Somatic Institute, These are
- 29:19places that you can investigate places like OMG, yes, there are
- 29:23sources that exist. You can do it digitally.
- 29:26So you do have that removal from it.
- 29:28You know your podcast, your podcast, you provide
- 29:32information, you introduce people to other sources, sources
- 29:36that you yourself have vetted. In this situation, you are the
- 29:40information, Dom. I'm just saying trust your gut.
- 29:43Don't be afraid to ask questions and look for sources that make
- 29:46you feel both welcome and like you are not an oddity.
- 29:51You are a beautiful person, discovering themselves and
- 29:56finding out who they want to be and how they want pleasure and
- 30:00recognizing that that is a fundamental part of your
- 30:04experience this earth. That is amazing.
- 30:08So if like me, you are obsessed and want more of Nick, you can
- 30:12find Nick on TikTok, which is where I first discovered him as
- 30:16Nick the Forge Bear on on Instagram as Forge Bear
- 30:20creations. Then he has an extremely active
- 30:23Patreon that you should check out.
- 30:25So it's patreon.com/nick the Forge Bear and that's Nik.
- 30:30Important note. If you find him in one of those
- 30:32places, you'll find him everywhere.
- 30:33Thank you so much for joining me Nick today.
- 30:36I look forward to hopefully being one of the first guests on
- 30:39your future podcast. I'm.
- 30:41Going to hold you to that. I'm going to hold you to that.
- 30:44Anytime, anytime. All right.
- 30:46Thanks so much. Have a good one.
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- 31:00reach out e-mail info@thekingconsultant.com.
- 31:04Until next time, keep on Kinkin on.