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How Scotty James Trains To Be The Best Half Pipe Rider in the World | MindSets Podcast | Episode 77 · The MindSets Podcast

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  Hello and welcome back to the Mindsets podcast.
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  We are back home. We got like, yeah.
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  It's a little bit different. I did like the room but won't
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  lie it it it felt nice to have an away day.
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  It did. Yeah.
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  It was fun. We're going to, if you guys
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  liked it, then we'll we're going to play around potentially with
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  some few options at the moment. If you prefer this then tell us.
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  We're we're used to this, I think.
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  Also, if you have no idea what we're talking about, go back and
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  watch the last episode. At such a valid point.
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  That's great Curious thing for you guys.
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  Welcome back. It is episode 77.
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  We are. We say this most times we are
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  motoring through them. We are.
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  Yeah. How are you doing, Charles?
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  I'm going for like a more rugged look.
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  I don't know if you'd noticed growing out the facial.
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  Hair. Oh yeah, yeah, come for the beat
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  I. Like it, I'm trying hard.
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  Someone, someone said to me earlier she was like, that's the
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  first stage or or sign of someone who's just given up.
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  So are you 29 years into this at this .0?
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like you look.
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  Unclean. You have to go through that
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  phase. Exactly.
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  You had seen what I look like in my unclean phase.
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  Yeah. It was worth it.
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  We can only Joey's worth one day, maybe.
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  OK, so the way we start every episode off.
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  Yeah, we've got news. We do 2 minute news. 2 minutes
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  of it. Yeah, 2 minutes of it.
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  Are you? Do you want me to start the
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  timer or are you going to start us off?
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  You start. I'll start us off.
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  You start the timer. OK, time starts in 321-GO.
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  Big one, and my favorite one is there's a kid from New Zealand
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  called Sam Roof who is 16 years old and he ran a 348 mile that
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  is. Absurd.
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  Like absurd. I think it was 348 eight and he
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  set a new under 18 world record. Like mind blowing speeds.
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  Hopefully he hasn't peaked too early and we'll see lots of him
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  from the future. Fantastic.
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  You started to speed up there because you saw me.
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  Check my watch, I'm going to go. I'm going to steal from you.
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  Lewis Hamilton and Kim Kardashian are dating.
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  No, they're not. They are.
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  They're not. We're going to move on.
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  We. Don't have time, We don't have
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  time. Six Nations is starting new
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  Thursday evening start because they don't want to clash with
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  the Winter Olympics, which is also starting this week.
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  It is indeed another thing that's happened.
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  High rocks Phoenix, The elites happened.
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  We got a new world record from Joanna Vietrich.
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  She's set 56 O 3 for her pro time.
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  We also had some drama going on in the men's pro double S race.
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  If you want to talk about that. Hunter Dickinson, they were
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  going for the world record. They were on pace for it to the
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  second pretty much the whole race.
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  And then at the end, unfortunately, they had 14 no
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  reps which cost them the world record by about 3 seconds.
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  So gutting for them. We'll be excited to see them in
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  Stockholm because they qualified.
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  That is the last time they're going to be able to race
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  together competitively because after this season you're no
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  longer allowed to race in the early 15 with anyone that is not
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  from the same nationality as you.
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  That's because they're looking towards the Olympics.
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  Tennis Australian Open final Alkraz versus Djokovic.
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  Djokovic did not manage to come away with it, but as a result
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  Alkraz won. And that makes him, I think, the
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  9th male ever to have won all of the majors.
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  And he's only 22, which is like mind blown insane.
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  And you've got one more thing, Team England.
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  Oh yeah, So anyone who follows golf, the peripherals of golf,
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  the team, I think it's called the Icons Cup, loads of like
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  legendary retired sportsmen and women play golf.
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  It's Team England versus the world, and Team England won.
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  That was one minute, 54 seconds. Wow, I was on the real I felt
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  the pressure. I'm going to bridge from news
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  into grind my gears nicely here because for those of you that
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  are listening to this, on the day this comes out, the Winter
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  Olympics has actually been going for a week, but officially the
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  Winter Olympics has been going for five days.
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  So we've discussed this a year ago when we were talking about
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  the the Summer Olympic Games, but it is a massive grind, my
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  gear that the Olympic Games and the Winter Olympic Games start
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  before the opening ceremony. It makes no sense.
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  And for context, if you're new to this or you don't, you don't
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  remember that episode. There is no reason for it.
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  We looked it up. There is actually no reason from
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  it. It's just poor organization.
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  Because it's like we need to do some events first.
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  There's too much of some events. That's it that, but it doesn't
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  make. Sense just move the star
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  earlier. And it's not like they're
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  they're using the same venues. I feel like that would be more
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  of a problem in the Winter Olympics where maybe they're
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  using the same slopes for similar events or same jumps or
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  same like half pipes or whatever for similar events but for the
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  Summer Olympics. Can you guess what the first
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  event of the Winter Olympic Games is?
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  Because if for us it's happening today.
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  I'm going to say something like biathlon curling, yeah, which is
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  it must have its own specific venue, so there it doesn't
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  matter when it starts. Now I would also say like
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  possibly one of the less entertaining watches of the
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  Winter Olympic Games. However, I might disagree.
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  Historically, for Great Britain, it's been one of our best.
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  It's quite fun, like people seem to always get into the curling.
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  I would love to be able to play it.
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  You can play it in like Roxy Ballrooms, but it's not the
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  same. It's nice and imagine it's not
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  the same. Bear with the mop, yeah?
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  Exactly. However, that's that's kind of
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  like a little grime I get in bridges just nicely in.
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  Have you got any grind my gears this week?
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  I'm going to go someone wrote in.
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  I'll go with someone who wrote in.
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  They they didn't reply. So whether or not they wanted to
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  remain anonymous or not. So I feel like I probably
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  shouldn't say their name. I think that.
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  May or maybe the other way really.
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  Grown up with us, actually. Didn't reply.
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  Your name is, but it's another swimming one.
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  Oh, OK, I riled. The swimmers up with my lane
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  issue the other week, but she said she didn't like it when
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  people wore too much aftershave or like, too strong aftershave
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  because when you're swimming, you can almost, like, taste it
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  because it's like hanging in the water.
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  Yeah, Yeah. Oh, I didn't.
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  And I actually had this the other day and I was going to
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  mention it some. The stars aligned and she popped
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  up in the DMS and told us about it.
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  But it doesn't matter who it is. But like, if you're wearing a
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  lot of perfume, if you're wearing a lot of aftershave when
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  you're in the pool, it gets like gets up in your grill.
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  This goes back to my point of people should not be pissing in
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  the pool. I don't know what, I just don't
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  think aftershave is worse than than peeing in the pool.
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  It's not worse. It's definitely not.
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  It's definitely not worse. They're not on the sale.
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  No, I got coated in the Ossuvage.
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  Oh no, I got. Coated in someone's piss.
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  I know which one's worse, so I'm I'm going to follow that up with
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  another one that we had written in.
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  So Venla, first of all, we were growing my gear because she sent
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  one a couple months ago and apparently we didn't mention it
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  if that happened and I still can't believe it happened.
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  So her grind my gear was when you send in a grind my gear.
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  And yeah, that's. Fair.
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  We give her full credit because she's come through with an
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  absolute banger. This one is high rocks related.
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  It has been grinding her gears about high rocks and myself for
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  other sporting events when people post their finish time.
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  Plus a penalty. Yeah.
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  So it's like, let's say you decided to run two laps of the
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  whole hierarchy race instead of the 32 if it was or whatever,
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  however many it was, you only decided to run 2 laps.
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  You're obviously going to get a penalty for every time, but like
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  they post. Oh yeah, Pyrox sub 6058 brackets
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  plus 7 minute penalty for not knowing what on earth I was
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  doing the entire time. Because I write an extra lap
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  every. Time.
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  An hour, in fact, that's what. Happened.
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  Yeah, yeah, that's annoyed me for so long.
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  And it's the same thing with like the chip time versus your
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  like watch time. Do you know something that I've
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  seen recently, which I haven't seen before?
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  And it's from someone who's I don't want to call them out, but
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  they're they're they're pretty well known on social media in
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  the fitness space and they're trying to attempt to go sub
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  sixty in a high rocks pro race. It's not their main sport.
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  They do another sport. It's their main sport.
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  But in his caption, he went for finishing high rocks.
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  He went watch time. Oh, watch time.
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  One hour something. I'm like, what?
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  You you don't need to put watch time bro.
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  There's a whole system in. Pastely so literally why it's
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  there. So I think that's the same as
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  like when runners look at people going Oh my my Strava time or my
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  watch time versus my chip time. But I'm like, why have you
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  looked at This is my watch time? And.
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  How often do you finish your high rocks race?
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  And as soon as you finish, click the watch.
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  I'm always like 30 seconds out or like 2 minutes off because
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  I've forgotten because I'm looking up at the actual screen
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  where my chip time is. Yeah, no mental.
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  You can't be doing that. That's actually just sparked
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  something. What?
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  What? Did you see Jenson Button did
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  high rocks? I did see Jenson Button did
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  high. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Definitely should have just stuck to driving by the looks of
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  it. Although quite.
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  Yeah, yeah, he's actually, the guy's an, the guy's an athlete.
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  OK, cool. Next one I'm going to go.
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  Yeah, go. I'm going to go with a fresh
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  one. This this is fresh off the
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  press, fresh out of the gym. Two hours ago, I nearly got
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  arrested. Not directly, that's quite a
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  stretch from what I actually happened, but I nearly
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  aggressively I, I nearly I in my vision, I've made physical
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  contacts with another human being for their actions in the
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  gym and was not good. However, I turned up to do a gym
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  session. I go to pure gym.
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  We've we've discussed that and I don't have very high
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  expectations for the etiquette in a pure gym.
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  However, I walked in and a guy was very clearly taking
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  ownership of the bench press. There is actually only one
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  specific bench press. There's a rack so you can send
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  your own up. There's only one designed and
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  built. He has his towel and his phone
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  on it. He's not on it.
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  He's walking around and I'm like, you do you between your
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  sets, whatever. So I go off and I start doing
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  some of my other exercises. So I did five sets pull ups.
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  I then went and did four sets of chest cysted rows.
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  I'm not taking you through my whole program.
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  I'm just trying to explain the timing situation.
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  I then see he's still supposedly on the bench, but actually he
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  sat on a free weight bench next to that bench doing incline
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  bicep, incline bicep curls. And I'm like, OK, so he's not
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  using the bench. Then I I'm going to go over and
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  I'm going to say, is this your stuff?
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  Because I'm going to use the bench.
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  It has been half an hour at this point.
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  So I go over and I'm like easing the bench and as I go over, he
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  steps off the freeway bench relatively aggressively to get
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  in my way and goes I've got three more and in my head am I
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  three more? What you haven't, I genuinely
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  have not seen you that bench was I've seen you do bicep car sets.
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  So I can only assume that what you mean is I've got 3 mores.
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  I've got three more sets of bicep cars not on that bench.
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  So I'm like, OK, I'm going to be over there back where I was.
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  Can you tell me when you're done, please?
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  Let me apply some pressure. So I go away.
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  And I started doing. I did incline bench press with
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  dumbbells and then did lateral raises, not superset.
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  Yeah, yeah, separate. I'm getting to the end of those.
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  Someone else goes over to this guy.
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  He's like, are you using that bench?
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  And he's like, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
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  Yeah, I'm looking. No word of a lie.
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  From the time that I walked into the gym to the time that he came
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  over and then told me that I could have it 51 minutes.
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  No, I have no idea how long he was on it before.
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  I arrived all day. So I then got on warmed up on
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  his way. I had to do that.
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  I had to Dick move, but I had to do it just straight away was
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  like you can leave that mate started started warming up on
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  it. I respect I was.
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  Done within 10 minutes. I'd done four sets, 4 working
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  sets, and then I was off. And I like the entire time.
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  I just like stared it down any time you try to make eye contact
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  with it. I gave it to him, but I like was
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  not happy. So basically that was a massive
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  grind. I get free out of those.
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  And that, I mean, that feeds off what we were saying the other
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  day about working in the in the commercial gym.
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  Yeah, I think I'm I'm because I'm spending more time because
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  this is another one of my grind my gears.
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  I'm spending more time in the commercial gym recently.
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  I see so many of these like bad habits.
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  But one thing that like really aggravates me that shouldn't,
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  which I mean essentially is therefore grind.
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  My gear is I don't mind if you're, let's say, for example,
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  you're on a hamstring curl or you're not like quad extension,
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  something like where you're SAT. I don't mind when you're resting
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  if you sit on it, if there's no one waiting and you can like
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  scroll on your phone. But I see people they're
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  scrolling on their phone whilst doing the reps.
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  Oh. Yeah, OK.
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  I'm like there's there's so little point in you doing that.
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  There's so little point and there's just like comes back to
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  like my inner coach of going like intention of movement and
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  getting there. It's out of it.
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  Fair enough if you're on like a step machine or like you're
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  walking up. Yeah, you're on the treadmill.
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  Treadmill. But if you're on a machine,
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  yeah, yeah, there is no way you can believe that you're applying
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  yourself. And like I've, I've the example
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  I saw was like hamstring seated hamstring Co and there can't
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  have been any weight on it. And it's just like going up and
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  down, up and down once you're kind of like scrolling TikTok.
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  And I was just like, yeah, no, it's so.
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  Frustrating the gym to say you went to the gym.
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  But that's basically it. And I I know that's, that's OK
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  for some people. That's why some people want to
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  go, but it's just like, get something out of.
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  It if you're there, do you know what I think?
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  I think it is OK for people to do what they want if you were in
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  the gym on your own, but I think what I'm going to connect from
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  that to what I experienced today is just like have some self.
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  Awareness have some be this person who was sat doing this.
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  There wasn't anyone waiting and it like it wasn't busy.
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  It's never really that busy, but I'm just like, I'm like going on
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  your phone. It's complete.
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  Like I go on the cross trainer and look at my phone.
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  I'm watching like TV or whatever because it's boring otherwise.
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  But yeah, I'm just like, you can get so much more out of the
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  exercise if you're actually applying yourself.
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  Yeah, fair. I'm going to come back with
• 14:00
  Wrigley's extra bubble mint gum. Riggy's extra bubble mint gum
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  now. There's two reasons this pisses
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  me off. I saw this on the notes though
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  there's no context, it's just bubble mint.
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  Oh, it's like here we go. So #1 awful flavour #2 I think
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  I'm about one more occasion away from suing them for mis selling
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  their product. Here we go because when I go in,
• 14:26
  let's do it to when I court case.
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  Let's see what we can get here. We'll be sponsored by our own
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  court case. When I go into the supermarket
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  and I go I need some gun. I really like the Wrigley's
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  extra white good gum strong got crunchy bits in it like that.
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  However it's always near the bubble mint.
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  The problem being is that the bubble mint one says bubble mint
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  on it. You're wrong.
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  It doesn't always say bubble mint on it.
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  And the thing with the bubble mint one is it some it says
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  Wrigley's extra white. White in big is bubble mint
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  flavour. So Wrigley's extra white just
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  doesn't have anything extra Bubble mint somewhere has tiny
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  little bubble mint on the side and it is the exact same
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  packaging. And so the number of I haven't
• 15:15
  had a successful purchase of it extra white like I want in 2026.
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  Really. Nope.
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  That's your own fault then. You're your own problem.
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  I. I'm not accepting.
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  I'm not. I'm not saying that I'm not an
• 15:26
  idiot. I'm just saying, I mean, they're
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  doing. It on purpose.
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  And what I also think that pisses me off is they've
• 15:32
  probably gone. This guy on this podcast one
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  time said that our bubble mint favour is terrible but explain
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  to us why it's got such high sales.
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  That's the reason no one wants to buy it.
• 15:45
  Everyone buys it by accident. Yeah, yeah, that's funny.
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  I'm gonna have a look now. I've never noticed.
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  That it's infuriating because not it's not every packet, but
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  it's like they've got multiple iterations or what's going on is
• 15:56
  I am buying the right packet bubble me in it for some reason
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  because they're just trying to shove their stock out.
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  Because no one else wants it. Neither, and I've got one more.
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  This one's like, again, it's like a peripheral that I've
• 16:06
  stolen off someone else's story. They weren't actually, they
• 16:08
  didn't send it in to us, but I saw it, I messaged them about
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  it. They were in a public sauna.
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  So that at the gym, public sauna, there's so many things
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  wrong. There's so many things.
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  Firstly, there's someone else in the sauna.
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  Obviously that's that's normal. They were eating.
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  That's the first. Not fine.
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  That's the red flag. That's not fine.
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  Not only were they just eating, but they were eating a tuna
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  sandwich, a tuna sandwich, which tuna by itself is like socially,
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  some for some reason frowned upon eating in kind of stinks
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  because it stinks. Yeah, I like tuna, but I'm
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  probably not going to eat it on the tube.
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  I'm probably not going to eat it in public.
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  I'll wait until I'm at home when I'm eating my tuna sandwich or
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  whatever, or in a private place. The last fucking place I'm going
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  to eat a tuna sandwich or a sandwich in general is a sauna.
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  Yeah, I don't want to eat anything in the sauna.
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  I've just come up with the term microwapists of people that put
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  their stinking food in a microwave and just destroy the
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  microwave for everyone else that remaining lunch too.
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  So microwapists are on a pretty bad level, but that is.
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  Far away. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  But like, why would nothing about that's enjoyable?
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  If, if that happened and it it was smelly enough, I would leave
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  my session or I'd leave it at some point and I would tell
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  someone at staff who it was and that they were eating a tuna
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  sandwich in their Bantam and I'd be like, they made a mess that I
• 17:38
  cleared up. I just add a little bit.
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  You're welcome, by the way. Add fuel to the pie.
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  Give me a free membership, kick them out.
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  We had a we had a no fish in the microwave rule at our old gym.
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  No microwave piss. Yeah, too many occasions where
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  you walk in the staff room and you're like, Oh my, who's
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  microwaved the whole fucking card or whatever.
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  I've got one more and this was not sent in, but it was
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  highlighted by someone to me and is very topical.
• 18:06
  We've spoken about the Winter Olympics already.
• 18:09
  In fact, one of the main focuses for today's episode is going to
• 18:11
  be the Winter Olympics. Now, how I'm going to do a
• 18:13
  fantastic job of bridging the gap is that there are more
• 18:16
  sports. We actually discussed this a
• 18:17
  couple of episodes ago, being added to the Olympics and Winter
• 18:20
  Olympics every time it comes around, which is really cool.
• 18:22
  I like it. However, did you know that the
• 18:26
  Nordic combined event, OK, which is where you have the shooting
• 18:31
  and the Nordic skiing, historically and still to this
• 18:36
  day, women can't compete in at the Olympic Games?
• 18:38
  No, it was a men only event. Shut up.
• 18:41
  Ridiculous. There's a there's a whole
• 18:42
  league, there's World Championships.
• 18:44
  Like you can compete in it at the Olympics.
• 18:45
  I. Should've been watching the
• 18:46
  World Cup on Discovery Plus which I realised I now pay so.
• 18:50
  You've got an entire subset of athletes that are not allowed to
• 18:53
  be Olympic. Is that actually a thing still?
• 18:54
  A thing that's that's that's more than a grandma.
• 18:58
  Shit, it's gone to process. So it's like women don't do
• 19:02
  hirings in gymnastics in the Summer Olympics.
• 19:05
  Why if I'm not? Yeah.
• 19:07
  We're at a point now where like athletic development and sports
• 19:10
  knowledge and everything, we should understand that women
• 19:13
  it's more than capable of doing. So dumb and stuff like that is
• 19:17
  so dumb, isn't it? That is a good crime idea.
• 19:19
  So that takes us in. As I said, today's focus is
• 19:23
  going to be around the Winter Olympics.
• 19:26
  Today we might tease more with news and that kind of thing than
• 19:29
  the upcoming episodes, but we're trying something new.
• 19:31
  Because something that you said on the last episode when we were
• 19:33
  joined by Roscoe, which I thought was a particularly
• 19:35
  interesting point, was that you think tennis athletes.
• 19:39
  Tennis players are some of the best athletes in the world
• 19:43
  because of the way that they have to train, they have to have
• 19:46
  a level of endurance. They have to have the skill
• 19:48
  base. They also have to have the
• 19:49
  agility and the longevity, all of that, which I do tend to
• 19:54
  agree with. I think so.
• 19:55
  But it got me thinking. I would love to know more about
• 19:58
  how other athletes actually is. So interesting.
• 20:01
  And so as much as we want to bring guests on to this show, to
• 20:04
  actually, you know, pin them down and get out Djokovic on it.
• 20:08
  Yeah, We'll get Djokovic on here someday.
• 20:11
  I mean, his career is going down here, and we're not going to get
• 20:13
  out crowds. But I thought we'd start off
• 20:17
  today with Scotty James. Scottie James to some of you
• 20:20
  will just be like 2 first names put together, but Scottie James
• 20:24
  is a 31 year old Australian snowboarder who competes in the
• 20:28
  half pipe. He is incredibly successful but
• 20:32
  not in his own way. In a sense I mean.
• 20:35
  So as a bit of a background, Scottie James has been World
• 20:38
  champion four times. 2015, 20/17/2019 and 20252025 is
• 20:44
  particularly interesting. We'll come back to that because
• 20:46
  Scotty James has never won Olympic gold, he's been world
• 20:51
  champion. Four times.
• 20:52
  And that's crazy. If you've gone as Wikipedia,
• 20:53
  just Scroll down how many medals he's won and you're like, so
• 20:56
  somewhere who'd have been my finger scratched?
• 20:57
  Yeah, there must be an Olympic gold in there.
• 20:59
  So he. Has won Olympic bronze in
• 21:02
  Pyongyang, 20/20/18 Pyongyang was it And then he won and then
• 21:06
  flags bearer as well, did you know that?
• 21:07
  Yeah. Gideon Faye.
• 21:08
  Yeah. Someone's been doing their
• 21:09
  research, I have. And then he also won a silver
• 21:11
  medal in 2022 in Beijing. Cool.
• 21:14
  But Goldman has always eluded him.
• 21:16
  And we have this discussion when Roscoe brought up Andy Murray.
• 21:20
  And we were talking about how good Andy Murray is a tennis
• 21:22
  player because he still had success around the time of
• 21:25
  Federer and Nadal. Djokovic.
• 21:27
  Well, a name that you will probably know in snow body half
• 21:31
  pipe is Shaun White. Shaun White existed.
• 21:35
  Now there were other riders in and amongst it as well.
• 21:38
  There's been some great riders from Japan who also still in
• 21:41
  existence and still around and competing.
• 21:43
  But Shaun White, the issue with him is that he was almost a bit
• 21:48
  like, if you were talking about the Ronaldo versus Messi debate,
• 21:52
  he would be more of the the messy, the kind of natural
• 21:55
  talent that I don't doubt has had a lot of work go into it.
• 21:59
  But he could always turn up on the day with zero form and win a
• 22:04
  competition by putting down a perfect run.
• 22:06
  Just put it out the bag. And then you've got Scotty
• 22:08
  James, who from a very, very young age, and in fact, fun fact
• 22:12
  started snowboarding when he was three years old on an
• 22:15
  advertising board, but by 6 years old, he was snowboarding
• 22:19
  competitively. Age 13, he was competing
• 22:23
  internationally. Now there's a documentary out
• 22:26
  about Squishy James. The kind of goes through this.
• 22:27
  If you want to watch it, it's on Netflix right now, which will
• 22:30
  give you a bit more of the gaps that we're kind of glazing over
• 22:32
  at the moment. However, when you're a junior,
• 22:35
  you're a junior, I believe up until the age of 11 and then
• 22:40
  from being 11 you're competing against that.
• 22:43
  Object, is it perfect? So like, it's a little bit like
• 22:45
  gymnastics. It's a huge jump in that sense.
• 22:47
  So he went from having like great success to now he was just
• 22:50
  like, literally a kid competing. So when he was Yeah 13, he was
• 22:55
  competing internationally. Bonkers, isn't it?
• 22:56
  Yeah, he was going up against for long.
• 22:59
  I mean, he was going up against Sean Wyatt.
• 23:00
  So he was the youngest Australian Olympian I think in
• 23:06
  50 years or ever at the age of 15 at the 2010 Vancouver Olympic
• 23:10
  Games. So came 21st in half fight,
• 23:13
  which is crazy. But he got a photo with Shawn
• 23:17
  White. And Shawn White, now in this
• 23:19
  documentary, admits he doesn't really remember.
• 23:22
  Me. But like, he was just a kid and
• 23:24
  like, he was mostly younger than that and like, yeah, did a great
• 23:28
  job, but he was always this phenomenon.
• 23:30
  I think this is one of the things that we've spoken about
• 23:31
  so many times is like people peek really early on in their
• 23:34
  career and like then nothing comes of it.
• 23:37
  And he's an example of someone that did peak very early on in
• 23:40
  his career, but then has managed to sort of sustain success.
• 23:43
  And when we're talking about success, he hasn't just had
• 23:46
  success in the World Championships because in winter
• 23:48
  sport and more of the like extreme sports, you have the X
• 23:50
  Games. Yeah.
• 23:51
  So in the Winter X Games, he's pretty much.
• 23:53
  Won gold gold, gold, gold, gold. That's.
• 23:55
  What? Most of the scrolling?
• 23:56
  Yeah, so so. Amazing.
• 23:59
  One of the issues that he has had through his career, as a lot
• 24:01
  of athletes do have is injuries. So he's always been battling
• 24:05
  injury. However, that has kind of made
• 24:07
  him the athlete that he is and who we're going to discuss
• 24:08
  today. Let me preface this by saying
• 24:11
  you guys might know what halfpipe looks like.
• 24:14
  It's kind of in the name, but if we're talking sizing, if you
• 24:19
  were to stand at the bottom of the halfpipe and then you went
• 24:21
  to the sides where they take off, that is the size of A2
• 24:25
  story house with a roof. So like.
• 24:28
  It's huge. Yeah.
• 24:29
  It's scary. The next thing that makes that
• 24:30
  even more scary is when they take off, they go roughly, I
• 24:36
  mean a similar height up in the air.
• 24:39
  And when they're coming down to land, you're thinking snow.
• 24:43
  Well, for it to hold that shape on its own, it's so heavily
• 24:45
  compacted and used with water jets that freeze overnight, you
• 24:49
  are landing on like pretty much solid ice, solid ice, solid
• 24:53
  concrete at that speed, same thing.
• 24:56
  Yeah, they do the same thing. When you take off, if you're not
• 24:59
  coming down within the landing zone, which is realistically
• 25:02
  like the first one to two meters of that Ridge, then you're
• 25:05
  either hitting the Ridge and breaking something immediately
• 25:08
  or you're coming down and slap bang bottom of the pipe and
• 25:13
  breaking everything. So it's like the margins are
• 25:17
  tiny. But then one of the things that
• 25:19
  we would appreciate from a perspective of like
• 25:22
  understanding performance and how your body's going to
• 25:24
  operate, which he's had to learn, the load that goes
• 25:27
  through your body, even if you do catch it perfectly, it's not
• 25:31
  smooth. It's like the force absorption
• 25:33
  onto something so hard. Exactly.
• 25:35
  And you're doing all of that pretty reactively because most
• 25:39
  of the time when you're doing three 60s, ten 80s, all of these
• 25:42
  are Tomahawks, which is like a trick that I think Sean might
• 25:44
  invented. The line is going to be slightly
• 25:47
  different each time, isn't it? And also, like, the surface is
• 25:50
  never going to be consistent. So I'm not looking at it.
• 25:52
  You're making, Yeah, going in blind.
• 25:53
  You're just making a decision based off feel.
• 25:55
  Yeah. I think there's already, like, I
• 25:57
  know we're going to go into more detail.
• 25:58
  There's just so many layers to this which fascinate me.
• 26:01
  So one of the things that I have experienced in my own winter
• 26:05
  sport journey, when I was doing my season, I really wanted to
• 26:08
  learn how to. 360. You can say that.
• 26:10
  Yeah. The problem that I.
• 26:11
  Have been so much cooler for me, like a.
• 26:13
  Eventually I still get there. It took me way longer than I
• 26:15
  wish it had for me. And like gymnastics, despite
• 26:18
  being right when I was just not a thing, I wasn't getting enough
• 26:22
  air because when you're going off a jump and you're looking to
• 26:25
  do some level of rotation, you have to load it and then you
• 26:27
  have to release it at the right time.
• 26:30
  But I wasn't giving enough respect to how much you have to
• 26:33
  jump off the ground, even if you're on a jump.
• 26:36
  So like exactly. So there's there's a lot of
• 26:38
  explosivity. And if if you were to go off a
• 26:41
  half pipe and it's the same, I believe for skateboarding as
• 26:44
  well. I'm not a great skateboarder,
• 26:45
  won't I? If you want to land back in the
• 26:48
  pipe, you have to push off because that keeps you in there.
• 26:50
  Otherwise, naturally your body will absorb and you'll go off
• 26:53
  like it is a jump. So you have to pop at the right
• 26:55
  time. But in order to be able to get
• 26:57
  the height as well, to get the time to do the trick you want to
• 26:59
  do, you have to press off pretty hard.
• 27:02
  So already we're looking at the idea of strength training would
• 27:06
  be pretty beneficial. And not only does Scotty now
• 27:11
  have a pretty rigorous program around strength training that
• 27:15
  means he can repeatedly give out those loads, but also injury
• 27:19
  prevention from receiving the load when he comes back down to
• 27:22
  land. Now I'd be interested from your
• 27:26
  perspective what you would assume his training holistically
• 27:30
  would look like pre season and during.
• 27:32
  Yeah, yeah, he put me on the spot here.
• 27:34
  The only, the only thing I have from the context of this and
• 27:38
  that old Jim, I think he is world champion.
• 27:41
  I don't want to miss misquote that a guy called Joe Poland,
• 27:45
  you go and look him up on Instagram because he's
• 27:47
  incredible. A sport I didn't know existed,
• 27:50
  water sport. So it's water skiing.
• 27:53
  He's I mean, he's incredible at trick skiing on the water and
• 27:55
  whatever, but it's like water skiing, jumping for distance and
• 28:02
  it's incredible. Like we'll, we'll have to I'll
• 28:04
  have to show you a video afterwards.
• 28:05
  But he would come to the gym because he's like, hey man, I
• 28:09
  need to get my legs stronger. And I was like, didn't even
• 28:13
  process one that was a sport or a thing that you'd need to do.
• 28:16
  But obviously to create more power and create more force to
• 28:19
  go further, you need to have stronger legs.
• 28:21
  So it's a similar comparison. So without going into too much
• 28:25
  detail, because I think there must also be like a little bit,
• 28:28
  maybe even for me in my own head, a stigma around sports
• 28:31
  like half pipe or skateboarding in general, where these people
• 28:34
  are just like they've been skating around since they were
• 28:36
  kids or snowboarding since they were kids.
• 28:38
  And there's no real like process.
• 28:41
  They just like like to do tricks and then the rest of the time
• 28:43
  they just bum around basically. But it's like a serious sport
• 28:46
  and they take their training very seriously.
• 28:48
  So I'd imagine there's a lot of compound strength movements.
• 28:52
  So you're thinking about developing explosive power.
• 28:55
  So things like backs, what's deadlifts, I'm sure he's doing a
• 28:58
  lot of probably, I mean, there's going to be different phases in
• 29:03
  his training in the lead up to season.
• 29:05
  But I'd imagine the most rigorous work or demanding work
• 29:09
  he's doing offseason in prep for like the skill refinement and
• 29:13
  the practice that he's going to do in season maybe or just as he
• 29:16
  builds into the season. But I'd imagine there's also a
• 29:19
  lot of plyometrics, a lot of jumping, a lot of isometrics,
• 29:22
  probably before the plyometrics that he's doing a lot of like
• 29:26
  other force absorption. So depth jumps, things like
• 29:29
  jumping off boxes and landing. There's one of my favorite
• 29:32
  phrases from Olympic weightlifting, which is you're
• 29:35
  only as strong as the force you can absorb or only as you can
• 29:38
  absorb. It's a bit like Yoderie, but
• 29:41
  I've been imagined. There's other sort of explosive
• 29:43
  drills for hip extension. So he's probably doing some sort
• 29:45
  of Olympic weightlifting like power cleans, maybe from hangs,
• 29:49
  something like that. Lots of jumps.
• 29:51
  Then I'd imagine single leg stability work as well.
• 29:55
  Obviously you've got both feet on the board, but maybe one's
• 29:58
  dominant in certain tricks or in certain positions when you're
• 30:01
  landing. So it's like I'd be interested
• 30:03
  to know if I piece together a training program for Scotty.
• 30:07
  This is the reason I wanted to put you on the spot, because I
• 30:09
  really wanted to see how your brain worked breaking things out
• 30:11
  because there were things there that I wouldn't have thought as
• 30:13
  quickly as you did. And but you're you're generally
• 30:16
  pretty right. So in an offseason, typically
• 30:18
  most athletes will focus on strength because through the
• 30:20
  season, through niggles, through having to focus on the race or
• 30:23
  the competition specific elements, you don't have enough
• 30:28
  volume of the strength training to build your strength.
• 30:30
  You're just trying to maintain. So he very much takes the
• 30:33
  approach of offseason strength training.
• 30:36
  And I'm going to preface 2 things.
• 30:38
  First of all, before we go into the depths of this, I haven't
• 30:42
  got Scotty on speed dial yet. So when I'm telling you what he
• 30:46
  does, this has been taken from previous podcasts he's done,
• 30:49
  this documentary that I've watched and then his own YouTube
• 30:52
  channel. The other thing that I would
• 30:54
  like to introduce you to a bit like how I mentioned, you've got
• 30:57
  Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo's
• 31:00
  always kind of the scene as the guy that does the work well, the
• 31:04
  Scotty and I quote says that he wants to be looked at as a
• 31:08
  performance athlete that snowboards rather than a
• 31:10
  snowboarder that trains like an athlete.
• 31:15
  So he's so good. That's really that.
• 31:17
  I mean that that is testament to his work ethic and understanding
• 31:20
  that maybe he's not as quote UN quote, lucky or talented as
• 31:24
  others in the field. But I do think there's like also
• 31:26
  there is a stigma around it because for example, let's just
• 31:29
  take a runner because it's an easy example to get better at
• 31:32
  running, you have to put in so much like endurance work for it.
• 31:36
  Whereas like for snowboarding, especially in halfpipe where
• 31:39
  it's more techie, it's about skill and trick.
• 31:42
  And you don't necessarily associate that with like they
• 31:46
  have to be in the gym refining backflips and tumbling and
• 31:50
  etcetera, etcetera. And then doing all of the
• 31:52
  strength training on top of it. You think of it or they just
• 31:54
  must have been doing that since they were younger.
• 31:56
  And as a result, they're quite good at it.
• 31:58
  But there's there's pieces to it and to be the best in the world,
• 32:01
  obviously you have to put work in.
• 32:02
  I think there's also an ego thing because when you are young
• 32:05
  and you're good, you kind of assume that you can be that way
• 32:08
  the whole time, which is what he would have experienced in his
• 32:10
  success because there's no way he was doing some of those
• 32:12
  movements you mentioned when he was a kid.
• 32:14
  However, going into his understanding of pre season and
• 32:19
  and during season training, typically in pre season, it'd be
• 32:24
  more like 5 to 6 * a week doing strength training, but a
• 32:28
  massive, massive emphasis also on the cardio side of things.
• 32:32
  And there's a lot on his YouTube of him running.
• 32:34
  He's not a bad runner, but he does a lot of like elliptical
• 32:37
  work, a lot of bike work at home because when he's in his
• 32:41
  offseason, considering, I mean, a bit like a lot of sports at
• 32:45
  the pro level these days. But he has to chase the winter
• 32:48
  around the world, be in different places to compete all
• 32:50
  year round and also to train because where he is at home
• 32:55
  isn't probably going to have snow straight outside unless he
• 32:57
  wants to live in the mountains all year round, which you
• 32:59
  probably don't want to do. So when he is at home, he would
• 33:03
  want to take a focus away from doing anything that he can't do
• 33:08
  comfortably. So that's why a lot of that
• 33:11
  quote UN quote easy stuff would be done then.
• 33:14
  But he it is a massive focus on building strength.
• 33:17
  But interestingly, you mentioned there's a lot of the plyometric
• 33:21
  stuff, but also in some of the movements, which you would
• 33:26
  typically see in a public gym using a bar, it is unilateral.
• 33:31
  So you're using kettle bells, You're trying to build the
• 33:33
  stability and you don't want to lose that.
• 33:35
  And you don't want to get really good quads from doing quad
• 33:37
  extension all season long. And then all of a sudden you
• 33:39
  come along and your legs don't work independently.
• 33:42
  So that's a, that's a massive, massive focus.
• 33:46
  And then in the offseason with the skill focus, you can't
• 33:50
  obviously stop doing that. He is now a level.
• 33:54
  He's obviously sponsored by Red Bull where one of the things
• 33:59
  that he didn't have when he first got into the Winter
• 34:01
  Olympic Games was the money that Sean had.
• 34:03
  So training wise, it's difficult.
• 34:05
  He spoke to Sean, you know, what's it like?
• 34:07
  Because, and I remember watching something about this years ago
• 34:10
  with Sean White, Shaun White had his own $3,000,000 half pipe in
• 34:14
  the mountains meant to go and train him.
• 34:17
  And part of the reason, and this is more context on the sport,
• 34:20
  it's not just so that he can go and train when he wants.
• 34:24
  It's because a lot of the time in the offseason and early in
• 34:28
  the season, riders are learning a run.
• 34:32
  So because you get given a point system score, so like you're
• 34:35
  being rate, you're being judged out of 100 across 3 judges and
• 34:38
  then you get the average, you can go into a season knowing
• 34:44
  kind of what your perfect score looks like or how to get a
• 34:46
  really high score. So if you practice those runs
• 34:50
  and with tolerance for like if I get this kind of pipe or this
• 34:53
  kind of condition, I'm going to have to do this, then you can
• 34:55
  come out of your offseason knowing I'm about to pull 5
• 34:59
  tricks that no one in the world has done before and probably
• 35:01
  going to be have a pretty good season.
• 35:03
  So they go away and they work on their runs and if your
• 35:07
  competitors are able to see what you're doing and they're
• 35:10
  actually talented enough, they can go.
• 35:12
  So this is one of the considerations.
• 35:14
  So Scotty now has access to enough money to be able to have
• 35:18
  a private half pipe that he uses.
• 35:20
  That's crazy. And when you've got places
• 35:23
  around the world, we've obviously got the north and
• 35:24
  southern hemisphere with different winters, but also
• 35:27
  there are in the outs, there's glasses, there's glasses all
• 35:30
  over the world, but you can do glasses skiing all year round,
• 35:32
  even if you're doing it in shirt, shorts and AT shirt.
• 35:35
  But Scotty also uses airbags for Major O GS of the podcast, we
• 35:41
  had Toby on who used to do ski seasons, which is actually How I
• 35:46
  Met him. But Toby broke his neck on an
• 35:49
  airbag when it wasn't inflated properly and went through to the
• 35:51
  concrete underneath. So there are risks with an
• 35:53
  airbag. It's not all fun and games, but
• 35:55
  Scottie uses an airbag massively off the halfpipe landing on it
• 36:00
  and then he can get a pretty good reference of him if he
• 36:02
  would have landed, because don't forget he's landed so many
• 36:04
  tricks he knows if he would have landed it.
• 36:06
  Or not? Is the purpose of that then to
• 36:09
  reduce the impact of the landing?
• 36:11
  Or it's just a a different tool to?
• 36:13
  It's it's both. So like if it's a if it's a
• 36:16
  sketchy trick. Yeah.
• 36:18
  I get that, but it's like if it's a trick you've never done
• 36:21
  before. So if you've been able to do a
• 36:23
  720 and I go cool, now I'll do a 1080, that's an extra rotation.
• 36:27
  You want to practice it without the risk of actually because.
• 36:30
  If I said like, the only way you're going to land A-1080 is
• 36:32
  by going and doing it, all of a sudden it's like, well, I don't
• 36:34
  know if I could. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 36:35
  So you you build up. It's the same if you've seen
• 36:37
  when divers learning tricks, they're in a harness and if
• 36:40
  they, yeah, yeah, I get that. But like the the equivalent is
• 36:43
  to have an airbag because it's with some of the rotations
• 36:45
  they're doing, because they're doing I'm I'm not in the
• 36:49
  knowledge enough to be able to look at someone's trick like the
• 36:51
  announcers, I don't. Know how I do like make it up 8?
• 36:54
  Spins upside down, whatever. And they're like, Oh my God, he
• 36:56
  did Jack the Pony, whatever that is.
• 36:59
  Yeah. Yeah, But with tail grab.
• 37:01
  Exactly. And so there's all of these,
• 37:02
  like, fine refinements that happen in a trick that will get
• 37:06
  worked through the airbag phase until the confidence is there.
• 37:09
  Even then, the first time they do it in competition is massive
• 37:12
  because there's just different pressure.
• 37:14
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 37:15
  So I mean, that's, that's also something that we, we need to
• 37:18
  discuss, right? When it's like he's coming to.
• 37:21
  And I think you have to, especially in a sport like this,
• 37:24
  you have to start when you're young, when your brain is, you
• 37:27
  said he started when he was three and then started competing
• 37:29
  when he was 6 and then made it pro when he was 11.
• 37:32
  Like your brain is still really malleable there.
• 37:34
  So it's like there's less comprehension of fear.
• 37:37
  And I don't know if you have it as well, but when I was younger
• 37:40
  and when I started skiing, I was just fearless because I had no
• 37:43
  like comprehension of if I break my leg, I can't work, therefore
• 37:48
  I can't make any money. So when I go now, I'm just like,
• 37:51
  I'm going to go slow. I don't want to fall over.
• 37:53
  I don't want to hurt myself. It's just like it's not as fun.
• 37:56
  I don't go as fast. But you, like you've developed
• 37:59
  that over time. And I think if you, if he hadn't
• 38:01
  started young, he wouldn't have that that kind of like block to
• 38:05
  go. I'm going to do like 10 flips in
• 38:07
  the air and then potentially land on concrete and could like
• 38:09
  snap my back. Yeah, exactly.
• 38:11
  You have to start when you're young.
• 38:13
  One of the things that I think a lot of people kind of not
• 38:17
  necessarily understand is the aerobic side of his training.
• 38:21
  So much like what's the necessity?
• 38:22
  Because typically a run through the pipe probably lasts 30
• 38:27
  seconds. Maybe you don't need to have the
• 38:29
  best cardiovascular base to be able to do that.
• 38:31
  But it's the whole thing that we've spoken a lot about within
• 38:35
  hierarchs and other sports is the tolerance that your body has
• 38:39
  to activity. So in the example of him
• 38:43
  running, how many people do we know, including ourselves, get
• 38:47
  injured purely from running? The load that running gives on
• 38:50
  the body. Now, if you compare that to the
• 38:52
  load that his body needs to take, running is minimal.
• 38:55
  So running is a very, very good base for his body to be able to
• 38:58
  say I can handle that, no problem.
• 39:02
  Therefore, the higher loads are also fine.
• 39:04
  Whereas if you went from doing really hard snowboarding
• 39:06
  sessions and taking off and you weren't having the airbag or
• 39:09
  whatever, and then you went and sat on the sofa for the rest of
• 39:11
  the day or the rest of the week and you come back to do it
• 39:14
  again. Your body's not primed for that.
• 39:15
  Your central nervous system's not going to be able to tolerate
• 39:18
  the this up and down so easily in that way.
• 39:23
  But there's another key thing, altitude benefit, because if
• 39:27
  you're if you've got a better aerobic base, you're going to
• 39:29
  handle the changes in altitude much better than someone that.
• 39:31
  It also supports your your strength training and your
• 39:34
  strength system, your aerobic and your strength.
• 39:36
  They work very similar together. The only thing that I'm
• 39:39
  interested in, I don't know if you know this on the top of your
• 39:41
  head is like obviously the sport he does and the career he's had,
• 39:45
  he's had injuries. Do you know what any of those
• 39:48
  injuries have been? So interestingly, it is pretty
• 39:52
  random for people in extreme sport events because of just the
• 39:55
  way that you land. His first appearance, the
• 39:58
  Olympic Games, you said, was 2010.
• 40:00
  He competed for the broken wrist.
• 40:01
  Yeah. OK.
• 40:02
  I was going to say wrist, probably a big one.
• 40:04
  Wrist is a big one with snowboarding.
• 40:06
  The benefit that you have with snowboarding over something like
• 40:08
  skiing is obviously because your feet are strapped in, you're
• 40:11
  less likely to have knee injuries from twisting.
• 40:13
  OK, fine. So you do still get them, but
• 40:16
  like it's far less because. I was going to say of of works
• 40:19
  with people. I mean, it's, it's, it's still
• 40:21
  extreme, but it's not really the same thing.
• 40:23
  But working. They like motor GP riders.
• 40:26
  And obviously when you crash at high speed, they're going a lot
• 40:29
  faster off a motorbike. But they, they all have so much
• 40:32
  metal in their bodies. Yeah.
• 40:33
  And it's like they avoid running like the plague.
• 40:36
  So they do a lot of rowing because it's like good for the
• 40:39
  grip. And when you're racing around a
• 40:41
  track, all you're doing is pumping the brakes.
• 40:43
  So you get like unbelievable forearm pump.
• 40:45
  So rowing is really good for them, skiing as well and a lot
• 40:47
  of biking. So I'm just interested like if
• 40:50
  you are getting lower limb injuries frequently and maybe
• 40:52
  you've got some screws and some plates somewhere, maybe running
• 40:55
  wouldn't be the best thing. But obviously he's fine with it.
• 40:58
  But like you said, it's good as well to develop the the
• 41:02
  tolerance to the impact and the loading of running if you're
• 41:05
  constantly hitting the deck on a snowball.
• 41:07
  Exactly. And one of the one of the other
• 41:09
  things pretty from a logistical standpoint, some back story that
• 41:12
  we haven't given you that you found particularly interesting
• 41:14
  so. Connection to Formula One.
• 41:17
  I always think out the interesting stuff, don't I?
• 41:19
  So Scotty's brother-in-law is Lance Stroll of Formula One.
• 41:25
  So he's essentially married into a rather wealthy family as well.
• 41:29
  But I would argue that he's still probably the most
• 41:31
  successful athlete in that family now, but he spends a lot
• 41:35
  of his time in Monaco. I'll let you draw your own
• 41:38
  connections as to why they would live in Monaco, but he spends a
• 41:41
  lot of time there, which is obviously right next to the
• 41:42
  Alps, which is pretty ideal. But he's not there all year
• 41:45
  round, like we said. And one of the most readily
• 41:47
  available things whenever you are in the world is to run.
• 41:50
  So like running can be a really good place for him.
• 41:53
  Now, if we run through a heavily supported by AI and the
• 41:58
  information I gave it a rough example of what an offseason
• 42:05
  program would look like across seven days, day one would be
• 42:08
  heavy lower body. So a bit like you said, squats,
• 42:11
  deadlifts, unilateral work, power cleans.
• 42:14
  In fact, for those of you that are living in the London area
• 42:16
  listening to this and you know CrossFit Putney, there is a
• 42:18
  YouTube video of him doing those exact movements at CrossFit
• 42:21
  Putney. One of the other things that he
• 42:23
  will do in most of his training sessions, especially out of that
• 42:26
  video is doing a lot of core work.
• 42:28
  Again we mentioned about loading up the core to release for the
• 42:31
  rotation, but like again in absorption I didn't even.
• 42:34
  Mention that yeah, it's obvious you're.
• 42:36
  Going to be in so many different positions and and again, how
• 42:40
  much load can you tolerate when you land is a huge one because
• 42:43
  you're landing and then you've got in half but maybe 1 1/2
• 42:47
  seconds before you're in the air again so it's landing absorbing
• 42:50
  and then throwing it I. Think also like, yeah, the, the,
• 42:53
  the ability to react and go again, but also like you think
• 42:57
  of a gymnast who's tumbling and flipping and rolling and
• 43:00
  somersaulting, how much core work they do.
• 43:03
  It's obvious that he'd need to feel like proprioception
• 43:06
  coordination. It's, it's, I mean, it's
• 43:08
  fascinating to see like the, the, the transfers.
• 43:10
  So then similar to what you said in terms of recovery as well,
• 43:13
  there would be some sort of zone to easy work in, in and around
• 43:17
  that session on on day one, day 2, you'll be looking at more
• 43:21
  explosive stuff. So a bit more of an emphasis on
• 43:23
  cleans, a little bit lighter because we've obviously done
• 43:25
  heavy the day before, a few plyometrics thrown in there and
• 43:30
  again, managing the load with single leg kind of use.
• 43:34
  The other reason for it being slightly lighter is because on
• 43:36
  that this example day is when you would also do some of the
• 43:40
  technique work. So you might go up to the
• 43:42
  slopes, you might do some of the work on the airbag.
• 43:45
  So you really don't want to be overly fatiguing yourself in the
• 43:47
  morning because then you're actually not able to nail the
• 43:49
  technique phase later on day three, more of like a recovery,
• 43:55
  active recovery day. So you'd be doing again, a bit
• 43:57
  more of your steady run or your bike stuff.
• 43:59
  Or honestly, some of them really like to do a general cross
• 44:04
  training fitness session that kind of just takes them away
• 44:06
  from the sport a little bit. And then one of the lower
• 44:10
  focuses for someone in a sport like snowboarding, although we
• 44:14
  did speak about the the broken wrists and that kind of thing,
• 44:17
  is to prime the upper body and a bit of upper body strength
• 44:19
  again, just to sort of balance everything off.
• 44:23
  Day four, kind of back to the speed and power focus.
• 44:25
  At this point you've given yourself a bit of enough rest.
• 44:28
  But again, we're still then going back to working on some of
• 44:32
  the tricks. Sometimes they do them on
• 44:34
  trampolines. Cool.
• 44:35
  Some athletes don't like trampolines.
• 44:37
  There are athletes that have actually broken on trampolines
• 44:41
  because they they will do it with the board and stuff on.
• 44:44
  Again, it kind of depends on the complexity, but that's the kind
• 44:47
  of thing that would look like on maybe Day 4.
• 44:49
  So with Thursday for on a normal week, Day 5, again, long, easy
• 44:56
  sort of aerobic work. And then in the evening, because
• 44:59
  of the types of the type of training you've been doing so
• 45:02
  far in a week, like mobility is a massive focus.
• 45:04
  And again, you think about the body position.
• 45:07
  Oh yeah, you land in sometimes, like, yeah, you've got to be
• 45:10
  super flexible to not hop joints and that sort of thing with your
• 45:13
  land. So heavy emphasis on that.
• 45:14
  Which then leads into day six or the Saturday, which is probably
• 45:19
  the hardest day of the week because that's where you're kind
• 45:21
  of trying to combine. It is almost the equivalent of
• 45:25
  doing a simulation. So you go and do your
• 45:27
  competitive day where you're actually trying to land the runs
• 45:31
  over and over and over again. So you'd be doing, I think he
• 45:34
  mentioned this on the documentary, but he might be up
• 45:36
  at the pipe on his own for three to four hours at a time.
• 45:39
  And if you're doing the same run, as we said, takes 30
• 45:42
  seconds, Yeah, albeit you're going to get, I mean, there's
• 45:44
  not going to be a lift. You're going to get a Skadoo up.
• 45:47
  You're probably doing 10 to 15 runs an hour.
• 45:52
  That's crazy really. So then relatively understood,
• 45:56
  but Sunday is about mobility, eating well and recovering,
• 45:59
  getting ready for Monday because you're then back in to do some
• 46:01
  head air training. So it's.
• 46:03
  It is fascinating really. And like, I hope if people
• 46:07
  listen to this and then go and watch the Winter Olympics, it's
• 46:10
  just an appreciation of like how athletic all of these people
• 46:14
  are. And like, I know it sounds
• 46:16
  stupid, like they're all Olympians.
• 46:17
  They're all competing at the top of their sport for their
• 46:19
  country. You'd imagine that they're
• 46:21
  training hard, but you just, you don't put like you don't
• 46:24
  actually step back and go, well, these people are training all
• 46:28
  year round. Like that's we've just read
• 46:30
  through a week. He's doing that every week,
• 46:32
  every week, every week. And obviously like it sounds
• 46:34
  really fun and really cool and being a professional athlete is
• 46:37
  obviously like an amazing opportunity and honour.
• 46:41
  But yeah, I mean, it's like it's a lot of hard graft in there.
• 46:43
  The one thing, the one thing I was interested in is like he's
• 46:47
  doing 32nd bursts on the half pipe and it's like super
• 46:50
  intense. It is just like interval
• 46:52
  training. I'd be interested to see if he
• 46:54
  has any sort of like more VO2 Max or anaerobic Y kind of style
• 46:58
  intervals chucked in there. So in in the particular YouTube
• 47:02
  video I mentioned with CrossFit, Putney appearing and.
• 47:04
  Mecca bike I reckon. You might well do that's not on
• 47:07
  there. Oh fuck.
• 47:08
  He was doing some running intervals.
• 47:09
  OK, fire through I think Regions Park.
• 47:11
  OK, But yeah, so he he was doing running intervals close to
• 47:15
  Putney. You'd think Red Bull budget is
• 47:19
  it. We've got a helicopter.
• 47:21
  There So no, there's definitely still some VOT routes work in
• 47:25
  there. Again, just for sort of covering
• 47:27
  all areas of training and perspective.
• 47:29
  Now that was, that was more of like a preseason attempted focus
• 47:33
  in the season. What would reduce is the amount
• 47:36
  of strength work in the gym. Mobility work will increase
• 47:39
  quite a lot to help the recovery side of things.
• 47:41
  Again, they're still easy, probably less long.
• 47:44
  We're not talking because when you're talking about like the
• 47:46
  adaptations you get in zone 2 training, you're talking
• 47:49
  realistically 45 minutes is supposed to be good for like
• 47:52
  maintaining, starting to push anything over like 75 to 90
• 47:55
  minutes is where you start to get adaptation.
• 47:57
  Probably not looking for adaptation so much anymore,
• 47:59
  probably looking for just maintenance.
• 48:00
  So half an hour to 45 minutes and then the rest of the time
• 48:04
  we'll be working skill based a lot more time on the airbag,
• 48:08
  even though it might be tricks that you think are like pretty
• 48:12
  easy to land at that point. Just again load management and
• 48:15
  just. Feel like Grunford finding
• 48:17
  exactly there must be so much of that in that sport.
• 48:19
  Because the other thing as well is there's the competitive
• 48:21
  aspect of the sport is we said it.
• 48:23
  You could come out of offseason thinking I'm in great shape for
• 48:26
  a great season because I've got the perfect run.
• 48:28
  It's going to get me 100 points every time I do it.
• 48:30
  But then you go in and you see someone else has actually got a
• 48:33
  slightly better run or is pulling off one of your tricks
• 48:36
  better than you. Then you need to go away and you
• 48:38
  need to practice that. And that's that's.
• 48:42
  It's not actually uncommon in some of his competitions, but in
• 48:45
  lots of competitions where you have two runs to get your best
• 48:49
  score in the half pipe, so it's not actually uncommon that you
• 48:52
  get a victory lap, which he's had once in your first.
• 48:56
  Runs just so. Because you go last if you're at
• 48:59
  the top. So if your first runs so good
• 49:01
  that you are last, if no one beats your score in their second
• 49:04
  run, then you get a victory lap. You don't even have to do
• 49:06
  anything. Yeah, but you get back.
• 49:08
  Two times like to pull off a trick that maybe no one's ever
• 49:11
  seen before like just go hell Hail Mary and just like see what
• 49:15
  you've got and I'm. I'm not going to say this with
• 49:18
  100% confidence, but 99% confidence that the last time I
• 49:23
  saw, I watched live Shaun White do a gold medal winning run.
• 49:28
  It might have. It might have been Pyongyang, it
• 49:30
  might have been the one before that.
• 49:32
  I didn't know he was competing. So I think recently, I don't
• 49:35
  think he was Pyongyang, so it might have been the one before.
• 49:37
  It was 2010. I think he'd already won and
• 49:40
  instead of doing a victory lap where you just go down high 5
• 49:42
  everyone and like him, he threaded the first.
• 49:46
  It was like back 3 Tomahawk, which hadn't been done in the
• 49:49
  world before, and he just pulled it off.
• 49:50
  And again, we mentioned there Shaun White enough times his
• 49:56
  approach or the way that he would lead everyone to believe
• 49:59
  his approach to training was was I'd go up to the half pipe in
• 50:02
  the morning and I live by the beach.
• 50:03
  So I'd fly back to the beach and I'd just surf all afternoon.
• 50:05
  No way in my training. It like there might be an
• 50:07
  element of truth to that. I can't believe that you would
• 50:09
  be as successful as that without some of the the hard.
• 50:11
  Work if someone's not branded, yeah, if there's someone like
• 50:13
  this who's also working like seven days a week, but so.
• 50:18
  To to round this off, one of the things I think is really cool is
• 50:21
  Scotty is a testament to the work that he puts in.
• 50:24
  Despite the success that he's had.
• 50:26
  It's quite evident he is chasing the Olympic gold because
• 50:30
  honestly it should have been his semi.
• 50:32
  It's the only thing he hasn't got right.
• 50:34
  And one of the things that's particularly interesting about
• 50:36
  this Winter Olympic Games, he's obviously back.
• 50:39
  We said what we said about having a good offseason.
• 50:42
  He won the world champs in 2025. Yeah, he's in a good spot.
• 50:47
  He's on good form, yeah. He just needs to now get it over
• 50:49
  the life, Yeah. And it's like that my favorite
• 50:52
  example ever, the Rory Macro at the Masters.
• 50:55
  Is this his master's? Is this the one where he's like,
• 50:57
  he's always going to butcher it because he's he's putting that
• 51:00
  external pressure on him? So I hope not like after this I
• 51:03
  I want to go away and watch the half by I watch him like
• 51:05
  absolutely. Really, I'm so excited for this
• 51:07
  when joining the games, I'm going to be unbearable.
• 51:09
  I said we might really is coming into every episode for sure, but
• 51:12
  I, I. Think also on this point, like
• 51:14
  for me, for a long time in my coaching career, the one thing I
• 51:17
  wanted to do was like sports specific SNC and like my main
• 51:20
  goal was like America and working with football players.
• 51:23
  But it's like for me, it's just problem solving.
• 51:25
  You like this is what I'm doing and training for what Use your
• 51:29
  knowledge and your skills and your like your understanding of
• 51:32
  the movement and the movement patterns and the mechanics and
• 51:34
  create a program that's going to make me good.
• 51:36
  And it's like even in like a minute, I can think of some
• 51:39
  things that are going to be helpful to make someone good at
• 51:41
  snowboarding. And I've never coached anyone
• 51:43
  how to snowboard before. So it's like, I'd love to know
• 51:45
  who is S&C coaches or if he does it himself, whether or not he's
• 51:49
  got the experience now to do it himself and program for himself.
• 51:51
  I'm sure he has a trainer, He's got enough money, but it's like,
• 51:55
  yeah, it's it's it's wild to think that there's like a Team
• 51:57
  GB snowboarding SNC coach, but that's a job that no one ever
• 52:01
  expects. Yeah, but it's yeah, it's
• 52:03
  fascinating. So two things.
• 52:05
  One thing to add a slight spice to the fact that he's, you know,
• 52:08
  going to be a hopeful this year for the gold medal.
• 52:10
  He's currently ranked 4th in the world like Cup so far.
• 52:15
  So he's still up there, but he's not running away with it.
• 52:18
  It's going to be an interesting competition.
• 52:20
  And the other thing, just to remind you all that when I've
• 52:23
  told you his program, he has not given it to me.
• 52:26
  We have read between the lines of about 8 different sources and
• 52:29
  pulled it all together. So don't take it as gospel, but
• 52:33
  I wouldn't be surprised if it was pretty similar to that for
• 52:36
  him to be able to manage what he does for a career.
• 52:38
  I'm keen in the future though with this because this is
• 52:41
  something we'd like to explore a little bit more on IS even if
• 52:45
  you have an athlete as an example of like some crazy, I
• 52:48
  mean, it doesn't necessarily have to be a crazy sport, but
• 52:49
  any sort of sport. Let us know.
• 52:52
  I'd like to do what we've done here and kind of piece together
• 52:55
  a program. I'll go away.
• 52:57
  I'll create what is a good program and.
• 52:59
  They'll see if those we get. Yeah, yeah.
• 53:01
  Yeah, yeah, I like it. Might just completely
• 53:02
  embarrassed me or. Present the athlete.
• 53:04
  Yeah, I. Think that would be really so
• 53:05
  if. If if you are an athlete that
• 53:08
  you think has got a pretty interesting program, then let us
• 53:11
  know if you know of an athlete you'd love to know more about
• 53:13
  that program. I mean, you don't want to go and
• 53:15
  do the research. That's what we're in for.
• 53:17
  So send it in and I'm more than happy to go away.
• 53:19
  I'll give Charles the homework of going and figuring it out,
• 53:23
  and then we'll come back together and we'll see who's
• 53:25
  right and we'll learn maybe what they could be doing better.
• 53:28
  Maybe if they had you as a coach.
• 53:30
  This is a crazy turn for your career.
• 53:32
  Yeah. My CV is going to be
• 53:33
  unbelievable. If you generally enjoyed this
• 53:36
  sign of thing, like I, I've already just said there, make
• 53:38
  sure you write an app mindsets under score podcast on
• 53:41
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• 53:42
  send us a message, but you can comment on the YouTube video.
• 53:45
  You can comment on Spotify if you want to just put it
• 53:49
  somewhere and then we can reply to you and we'll get back to you
• 53:52
  and, and hope that we can carry this forward because I think I,
• 53:55
  I've really found this interesting putting this
• 53:57
  together. I like learning about the
• 53:58
  differences between different athletes because there is a lot
• 54:01
  of similarities in some of their training.
• 54:03
  There's also a major amount of differences, and that's also
• 54:05
  athlete to athlete. We understand.
• 54:07
  So yeah, it's so specific to the person as well, yeah.
• 54:09
  And we're fortunate enough to know we we know a few different
• 54:12
  athletes, so we will hopefully get some of those guys and girls
• 54:15
  on and they can break down their training in front of.
• 54:17
  Us. Yeah, yeah, that would be really
• 54:18
  fascinating. So I think that's hopefully more
• 54:21
  of that to come unless you really don't like it.
• 54:25
  But that takes us into the final part, which has been prepared by
• 54:29
  you, this. Yeah, I'm so.
• 54:30
  I'm now a little bit nervous. I'm on games youth in two weeks.
• 54:33
  I've not. I know I, I, I think I've been,
• 54:35
  I think I've been relatively kind with the game, but I think
• 54:38
  it's quite fun. It's it follows a similar feat
• 54:40
  theme to what we've been doing over the last couple of weeks.
• 54:43
  Again, it's got a name. I've called it who won?
• 54:48
  OK, which? Who?
• 54:50
  Yeah. So all you need to do is tell me
• 54:52
  who won. It might be an athlete, it might
• 54:54
  be a sports team. There's some bonus questions as
• 54:57
  well. To.
• 54:58
  Get even more points. I think there's 11 questions
• 55:01
  total, but then there's some extra points in bonus.
• 55:04
  We're just going to dive in. OK, well just to just to
• 55:07
  clarify, if you beat me, comment your score.
• 55:10
  OK, versus mine. You've got to love that.
• 55:12
  All right, so I'm going to take you back to Wimbledon last year.
• 55:16
  Yeah, 2025. Who won the women's singles at
• 55:20
  Wimbledon 2025? If you have historically
• 55:26
  listened to the podcast, you know that my name basis is
• 55:31
  awful. You're going to say Amerada
• 55:33
  Carney? No, I'm not going to say Amerada
• 55:34
  Carney. I wouldn't have remembered her
• 55:35
  name. No offence again if she's
• 55:38
  listening to this one again. You have to go back to that.
• 55:40
  Episode The thing is the top three women, and I mentioned one
• 55:44
  of them last week in last week's episode, but I have forgotten
• 55:48
  all three of their names. It's also a really difficult
• 55:52
  name, like it's quite hard to pronounce.
• 55:57
  I think it this might have been swayed by Radicalani, but I
• 56:00
  think it begins with an RP. Neither, neither.
• 56:06
  OK, great. I'm going to have to take an L.
• 56:09
  It's not going to come. Eager Shiv on deck?
• 56:13
  I wouldn't have gone, no. She would take.
• 56:15
  Shame. That's tough.
• 56:17
  OK, tough stuff that was. I think that was a hard 1
• 56:19
  though. I think that's.
• 56:20
  Hard I should know that I think. That was a hard one.
• 56:22
  You're being too nice. All right, the NBA Championship
• 56:26
  2025. Who won?
• 56:30
  Was it? It's way better being in this
• 56:34
  position. To ask the questions.
• 56:36
  Oh, it's fun. I can see the teams.
• 56:40
  He's going to say to no one. I can see the person's feel.
• 56:43
  Yeah, yeah, I'll try not to say that.
• 56:45
  The thing is, and this will tell you whether or not I'm getting
• 56:48
  the right team. It was Shaun White.
• 56:50
  Did Russell Westbrook play a large amount of his career for
• 56:53
  them? Don't ask me that.
• 56:54
  Don't ask me other questions that I don't know.
• 56:56
  I'm not being quizzed. Was it?
• 57:01
  Oh, Oklahoma, Yes, I've forgotten the rest of them.
• 57:05
  I'm. Giving you that?
• 57:05
  Yeah, it's. The Thunders.
• 57:06
  Yeah. The Thunders.
• 57:07
  Yeah, Yeah. Well done.
• 57:08
  Thank you. Good job.
• 57:09
  And for those that do know, basketball, yes.
• 57:11
  Russell Westbrook didn't spend a lot of his time, though.
• 57:14
  Well, I knew that. I just couldn't give you.
• 57:15
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, cool.
• 57:17
  Women's Rugby World Cup 2025. Who won?
• 57:22
  England? Easy, easy, easy.
• 57:24
  Don't, don't double, double. Get.
• 57:26
  OK. Premier League, the 2425 season.
• 57:29
  Who won? What's that?
• 57:35
  See, I know that Chelsea won the Premier League in 2005, so I'm
• 57:38
  going to go ahead and say it was Chelsea.
• 57:40
  No 202425 What did I say? I think I I heard 2000 and four
• 57:45
  2000 and. Five, I may have said that.
• 57:47
  OK, but that's not what I was asking.
• 57:48
  Surely I get a point. That's what he said.
• 57:50
  We're going to. That is for a 2425.
• 57:53
  Yeah. Liverpool, Yeah.
• 57:54
  Easy. Yeah, I.
• 57:55
  Was like why is he taking so long to get that?
• 57:57
  OK, it's the first one with a bonus point.
• 57:59
  I'm going to ask you the first question 1st and then there's a
• 58:01
  bonus point. The British Open Golf 2025.
• 58:07
  Who won? There's a good little docu
• 58:10
  series on on YouTube about this. You send that to me, my
• 58:16
  knowledge needs propping up. It's.
• 58:18
  It's an easy one. The guy's the the goat at the
• 58:21
  moment is. It Bryson.
• 58:23
  No. He he, he played.
• 58:27
  Really well, he played like a if he'd if he'd played the same way
• 58:30
  he did on on Sunday as the rest of the weekend, he'd like
• 58:33
  blasted everyone. But he had a tough start.
• 58:37
  It's not going to be Rory. No.
• 58:40
  Is it Jon Rahm? No.
• 58:42
  No. Who was it?
• 58:43
  Scotty Scheffler was it? Yeah, the chef Scotty.
• 58:46
  So the bonus point, where was it held?
• 58:49
  Do you know the course? It was a big one for Rory, which
• 58:57
  would imply it was, and the last time it was here, Shane Lowry
• 59:01
  won. Which is massive as well.
• 59:03
  Which was one of the greatest weekends ever.
• 59:06
  Ireland. It was in Northern Ireland.
• 59:09
  Yeah. I'm not giving you that.
• 59:10
  It was really naughty. Do you want me to tell?
• 59:15
  You Don Don Donald. No port rush, which is a
• 59:19
  stunning link. I've never.
• 59:20
  Played that one on track, don't you?
• 59:22
  I don't know that one. On the Tiger Woods, Yeah, yeah.
• 59:26
  Yeah. We don't need to mention that.
• 59:29
  OK, let's go stateside. Who won the MLB in 2025?
• 59:35
  Major League Baseball. I can see that.
• 59:41
  I just can't. Yeah, she can.
• 59:46
  Oh, there's no way I'd have got this.
• 59:47
  Was it the Cubs? No, no, Was it?
• 59:49
  I can't even remember if they're called Blue Jays, but.
• 59:53
  A good colour. Choice.
• 59:54
  Is it a blue bird? Is the logo?
• 59:56
  No. OK, but I think that.
• 59:58
  Blue. Then no.
• 1:00:00
  The Dodgers. LA Dodgers.
• 1:00:01
  Really. Yeah.
• 1:00:02
  Oh, I didn't know the Dodgers won it.
• 1:00:03
  OK, fair enough. I'm thinking.
• 1:00:07
  I'm thinking a year before that was a team that hadn't won it.
• 1:00:09
  Maybe historically. I really sure they have a blue
• 1:00:13
  bird as that logo. The Bluebirds.
• 1:00:15
  Yeah. The Bluebirds.
• 1:00:17
  Yeah. Sick.
• 1:00:17
  Yeah. Cool.
• 1:00:18
  Nice. Good chat.
• 1:00:20
  OK, this one who won the British Grand Prix 2025?
• 1:00:29
  God, that is actually no, not tough.
• 1:00:32
  Landon Norris. Yeah, easy.
• 1:00:33
  Easy one. OK, who won the Six Nations
• 1:00:36
  2025? Why is that from out of my head?
• 1:00:44
  What? By the end of this year, we're
• 1:00:46
  going to be so good at sport trivia, yeah.
• 1:00:49
  I'm hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 1:00:53
  It wasn't definitely wasn't Wales.
• 1:00:57
  It wasn't Scotland. It obviously wasn't Italy
• 1:01:01
  either. They are taking part.
• 1:01:05
  No, I'm not as much as Wales then we've got.
• 1:01:07
  France. Yeah, true.
• 1:01:08
  Not that year, France, England. I don't think it was England.
• 1:01:14
  We're pretty fucking good. We should win it this year.
• 1:01:19
  I don't think it was Ireland. No, it was Ireland.
• 1:01:21
  It was Ireland. France.
• 1:01:23
  Fuck. Damn it.
• 1:01:25
  Damn, I really thought we did something to Ireland.
• 1:01:28
  Oh, did we beat Ireland in the last weekend?
• 1:01:30
  The men France won. We know I I don't think that
• 1:01:32
  there was something around Ireland.
• 1:01:34
  So sure. Yeah.
• 1:01:35
  No, we're, we're good this year. Yeah, we're we should win it
• 1:01:38
  this year, OK. Who won the Women's Six Nations
• 1:01:43
  2025? Was it not England again?
• 1:01:47
  It was England. OK, bonus points on this one.
• 1:01:50
  How many have they now won in a row?
• 1:01:53
  Six Nations or competitions? 6.
• 1:01:56
  Nations. Six Nations.
• 1:01:57
  They have won five in a row. Seven since 2019, I.
• 1:02:02
  Knew it was a lot. And in each of those, they've
• 1:02:06
  won the Triple Crown. So that's beating all of the
• 1:02:09
  home nations and the Grand Slam. Tell me a more dominant team.
• 1:02:13
  Than that. That is a joke.
• 1:02:15
  Have you noticed in this quiz I've actually been better at the
• 1:02:18
  women's? I've started to switch.
• 1:02:19
  I'm moving over to women's. School joke at how dominant they
• 1:02:22
  are anyway. OK, easy one for you.
• 1:02:25
  Who won the women's Elite 15 major in Phoenix?
• 1:02:30
  Joanna Vietrick. Easy.
• 1:02:31
  Bonus point for her time. 56 minutes and three seconds.
• 1:02:35
  The guy's a loser. Bonus bonus point.
• 1:02:39
  Who came second? Am I missing something here?
• 1:02:45
  No, I was just asking you again second.
• 1:02:47
  Lauren Weeks. Yeah, yeah, OK, cool.
• 1:02:50
  I thought you were going to turn up.
• 1:02:51
  No, she got that second penalty. Bonus, bonus, bonus.
• 1:02:53
  OK, OK, who won the most medals at the OK, which nation I should
• 1:03:00
  say? OK, which nation won the most
• 1:03:02
  medals at the 2022 Winter Olympics?
• 1:03:10
  I obviously just want to jump to what's seemingly the most
• 1:03:13
  obvious. Sorry for stalling, everybody
• 1:03:22
  listening. I'm going to go ahead.
• 1:03:24
  I'm just going to go with the brain.
• 1:03:26
  America. US.
• 1:03:28
  It's not, unfortunately. Can I Can I have a second game?
• 1:03:31
  Is it something more rogue? China's always up there with the
• 1:03:35
  Summer Olympics, but I'm going to go away from them and save
• 1:03:38
  Japan. No.
• 1:03:39
  OK. Norway.
• 1:03:42
  Norway. I see that again.
• 1:03:43
  Look at all the events of the Olympics with like, speed
• 1:03:45
  skating, Nordic combined, and may contribute to your reminder.
• 1:03:49
  That's crazy. Yeah, that kind of makes sense.
• 1:03:52
  I'll give you a bonus point if you can tell me where that
• 1:03:56
  Winter Olympics was in 2022. We've said it enough times
• 1:03:59
  already today. Yeah, of course I can.
• 1:04:03
  Beijing. Yeah, Easy.
• 1:04:04
  OK. This is the final one.
• 1:04:07
  Bonus. Bonus point, Yeah, For how many
• 1:04:10
  gold medals Norway have won accumulatively across every
• 1:04:15
  single Winter Olympics? How many I'm giving?
• 1:04:18
  You a code? OK, there's been a Winter
• 1:04:21
  Olympics every four years since 1924.
• 1:04:26
  So you've just crossed 100 years?
• 1:04:27
  I think the first one was in Chamoni.
• 1:04:30
  OK, that's that's fun fact. Don't quote me on it, actually.
• 1:04:34
  So how many gold medals? Norway.
• 1:04:37
  Just for Norway. Just for Norway, the most
• 1:04:39
  dominant winter sport nation ever so.
• 1:04:43
  Wait, what? Year was it started 1924.
• 1:04:47
  That's interesting because we've we've lost two years.
• 1:04:52
  Would that have been? No, we didn't even lose 2 years
• 1:04:54
  over COVID. So we lost two years at some
• 1:04:56
  point, maybe the war. Yeah, it was.
• 1:04:57
  I think so. There was, though.
• 1:04:58
  That's a good shout. There's a block.
• 1:05:00
  On. Yeah, I'm thinking, I'm thinking
• 1:05:02
  that we probably lost. That was one or two.
• 1:05:05
  Yeah, yeah. That's a flex.
• 1:05:09
  Autism, yeah. So we've got, we've got one or
• 1:05:13
  two that we've missed. Let's say then, OK, we've got 22
• 1:05:19
  Winter Olympics, let's say they average out at 15.
• 1:05:27
  I'm going to. Be really impressed.
• 1:05:31
  Let's say 327 for fun. That's quite high.
• 1:05:43
  Is it? That is quite high when you
• 1:05:45
  think about it. That's quite high, yeah, 3. 127
• 1:05:48
  across 100 years. You want to have another guess?
• 1:05:52
  Yeah. Thanks.
• 1:05:54
  Let's not use brain. Let's use the athletic feel,
• 1:05:57
  yeah? Yeah, nice knowing that.
• 1:05:59
  That was way too high. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:01
  I'm going to go ahead and I'll say 113. 148 that's that's, I
• 1:06:12
  mean, it's a stupid question, like it's a hard question.
• 1:06:14
  No, that's tough, though I think I've given you the same with.
• 1:06:16
  There's been Zealing somewhere at some point.
• 1:06:18
  For Team GB. So yeah, fair enough.
• 1:06:20
  I did give you a multiple choice, but it's fine.
• 1:06:23
  Yeah, but you're far, far clever.
• 1:06:24
  As long as as long as you put it C, that would have been fine.
• 1:06:28
  I don't even know how. Many I got like I lost count,
• 1:06:31
  but we'll we'll do it I. Feel like you got more than me.
• 1:06:33
  Count up your score and win, yeah?
• 1:06:35
  If you aren't even counting, you feel like you got.
• 1:06:37
  More, I've just thought of two very interesting things that we
• 1:06:41
  didn't mention in the news, so just want to touch on them
• 1:06:43
  quickly. Nice.
• 1:06:46
  First of all, new world record. Yeah.
• 1:06:49
  For VO2 Max Oh. How did we miss that?
• 1:06:53
  I know the Norwegian thing got me that.
• 1:06:55
  Needs to be a whole episode for sure.
• 1:06:57
  Yeah, maybe. Maybe.
• 1:06:59
  How's this for a presentation? Get him on.
• 1:07:01
  Yeah, we'll have a look at his training.
• 1:07:05
  Perfect. And we'll go through.
• 1:07:06
  Here's one. Here's Max.
• 1:07:07
  So for context and I felt really dumb for some reason in my head
• 1:07:11
  there was a limit of 100 being your BO2 Max.
• 1:07:14
  It's not it's not out of 100, it's just a world record.
• 1:07:17
  Even the time it was 96.1 however it has just been
• 1:07:20
  absolutely smashed. 101 it's. Just.
• 1:07:22
  I'm not going to try and with my name recalling Nail, his name,
• 1:07:27
  which is a Norwegian name as well, so it can only go wrong
• 1:07:30
  for me. I'll come back to you next
• 1:07:31
  episode potentially with that as a case study and his name nailed
• 1:07:35
  in pronunciation and we'll go through maybe what his training
• 1:07:37
  looks like. That's the first one.
• 1:07:39
  First of all, just while. Also, there's like a handful of
• 1:07:42
  people who have ever been in the 90s.
• 1:07:44
  Yeah, it's, it's like. Superior.
• 1:07:46
  Like, super, super, super superior.
• 1:07:47
  It's like plus 80. And then there's like a handful
• 1:07:50
  in the 90s. And for this guy, Kristen
• 1:07:52
  Blumenfeld, yeah. OK, that was a place A. 101 was
• 1:07:57
  it 101? But was it like it wasn't even
• 1:08:00
  I'm posting this to say how good I am.
• 1:08:02
  Wasn't it just like? It was just.
• 1:08:04
  It was just. And someone had like zoomed in
• 1:08:05
  and gone. Holy shit.
• 1:08:07
  Yeah, yeah. That's even more.
• 1:08:08
  Of a flex. The guy's a freak.
• 1:08:10
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:08:11
  So that's one. And one of the things that I've
• 1:08:14
  got off the back of it, which I was going to mention earlier on.
• 1:08:16
  I think I've mentioned recently I've been struggling training
• 1:08:21
  wise, been taking it a little bit easier, trying to ease my
• 1:08:23
  way back in because of work and all of that.
• 1:08:26
  Well the big issue was that I just didn't have a written out
• 1:08:28
  structure and so by having a written out programme I've
• 1:08:31
  actually been doing a much better training week.
• 1:08:33
  However, stray back into the annoyances of what training
• 1:08:37
  looks like and if this is a particular point in your
• 1:08:40
  training you're listening to this.
• 1:08:41
  I'm thinking my training is not linear.
• 1:08:43
  Listen to this. My watch didn't track my VO2 Max
• 1:08:49
  across the whole of January and I it's not right.
• 1:08:51
  I've not put a mask on and done anything hard.
• 1:08:53
  But my VO2 Max the last time it measured was mid November and it
• 1:08:57
  said 56. Not unhappy about it not flexing
• 1:09:00
  about it on Instagram. I haven't run that often so that
• 1:09:05
  when I did a run to the gym today, gone to the gym VO2 Max
• 1:09:11
  52. It's gone down a lot.
• 1:09:13
  That's not good, however. You ran for what?
• 1:09:16
  Like I. Ran for 2/2 and a bit K there
• 1:09:18
  and ran 2 and a bit K back. What I will say is very
• 1:09:21
  interesting. I for me and for some people
• 1:09:24
  listening this might be really good, but for me this is a bit
• 1:09:27
  of an alarming situation. 5 minutes, 46 average.
• 1:09:30
  What was my average heart? Rate I should actually know
• 1:09:33
  because I saw your stronger. 540-6546.
• 1:09:38
  I'm going to say. 3 flat as. Well, 1:58. 1:45 I get it for
• 1:09:46
  one of them, slightly higher for them on the way to the gym, but
• 1:09:49
  just for reference, that would normally have been like 120 to
• 1:09:54
  125 Max. I'm I'm I've never been like my
• 1:09:58
  running training has always been less than my bike training,
• 1:10:00
  especially in the last year. But just for the flip side, and
• 1:10:03
  this is where I'm saying the training isn't linear.
• 1:10:05
  So I really struggled to keep my heart rate there running what
• 1:10:10
  felt almost I was walking slow. Yeah, yesterday I was on a bike
• 1:10:14
  for an hour and 15 minutes. I held 240 watts for an hour and
• 1:10:17
  15 minutes and I was struggling to stay in zone 2 instead of
• 1:10:20
  dropping into zone 1. My HRV.
• 1:10:23
  Is this on your bike? Yeah, but I've checked the
• 1:10:27
  calibration and for output versus AC2 and the difference is
• 1:10:32
  that is supposedly on my 10th 2 months ago, 5 what's less, but
• 1:10:37
  yesterday I was. That's impressive.
• 1:10:40
  Really mentally struggling with putting out what I needed to on
• 1:10:42
  my legs. And before you ask, I was
• 1:10:45
  wearing a chest strap. OK Polar H10 it was legit but I
• 1:10:50
  I you can see on the graph I'm bouncing between 1:16 which is
• 1:10:54
  where my cut off is for zone 2 training.
• 1:10:56
  I was bouncing between that and 1:00 to 1:00 the entire time.
• 1:11:00
  For 240 watts, that's good. But as soon as I started
• 1:11:05
  thinking about high rolt racing. Spike, but yeah, yeah, straight
• 1:11:08
  up to be like, whoa, OK, stop. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:10
  It's crazy that happens that happens to meet all the time.
• 1:11:12
  You get like over simulated. Yeah, it's it's really
• 1:11:14
  fascinating, which we should do because I don't know what your
• 1:11:17
  training looks like at the moment.
• 1:11:18
  I'd be interested to, like, I'm trying to show you what it is,
• 1:11:21
  map out what your training looks like without having seen it.
• 1:11:23
  Yeah. Or at least we can discuss what
• 1:11:25
  our training looks like at the moment, because that might be of
• 1:11:27
  interest to some people, or probably not.
• 1:11:28
  If if people want to know what we look like, then you can see
• 1:11:31
  and we'll compare that to. Because usually, usually my
• 1:11:33
  training is so pathetic and I do nothing.
• 1:11:36
  But at the moment my training is really good.
• 1:11:38
  So it's like, yeah, yeah, it's, it'd be a good opportunity for
• 1:11:40
  us to actually like, have a snapshot of what like good
• 1:11:43
  training looks like for us. OK, cool.
• 1:11:44
  And then the just around the podcast off with some news.
• 1:11:47
  Obviously we have to go down a rabbit hole at some point.
• 1:11:50
  If you're watching this on the week that it comes out, then
• 1:11:55
  biggest news if you don't pay attention to American sport is.
• 1:11:58
  That he loves it. Super Bowl champions this year
• 1:12:02
  are are the Seattle Seahawks, the 29 to 13 win over the New
• 1:12:05
  England Patriots. So that's a.
• 1:12:07
  Surprise. But yeah, I mean, Patriots back
• 1:12:11
  in the Super Bowl and every other team had their chance to
• 1:12:14
  get in there before the Patriots return.
• 1:12:16
  But there they are. And Seahawks, another big game.
• 1:12:19
  I think I mentioned in one of the previous episodes that it
• 1:12:21
  was lining up to just be a rerun of the, I think the first Super
• 1:12:25
  Bowl I ever watched. Was Brady playing for the
• 1:12:27
  Patriots? Yeah, yeah, and iconic it was
• 1:12:31
  when they decided to throw a pass on the 1 yard line on the 1
• 1:12:36
  yard line rather than giving it to Marshall and Lynch.
• 1:12:38
  Wow. Yeah, I would have bet my life
• 1:12:42
  to win. They had to score to win.
• 1:12:45
  But but. They decided.
• 1:12:46
  Marshawn Lynch, who had been running and it was, he was one
• 1:12:50
  of the players for people who don't know he wasn't on the
• 1:12:53
  field. Oh really?
• 1:12:54
  No, I mean it was offence. Fire service and Seahawks.
• 1:12:57
  Yes, and Seahawks. Were on the field, Marshawn
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  Lynch, 1 yard line. He was in form and good enough.
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  There was like, it's a touchdown, we know you're
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  running it, but he's going to score anyway.
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  And they decided to pass and they threw an inception anyway.
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  Yeah. So Super Bowl champions.
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  That's good. And yeah, so that kind of brings
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  us to the end of that episode. If you enjoyed it, we've asked
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  you enough times, but make sure you do actually get in touch.
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  If we mentioned something that has ground your gears a little
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  bit or reminded you of something that has been grinding your
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  gears recently, make sure you send it in.
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  We're always taking requests. We're going to be better at
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  putting up more stories asking for them.
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  But anytime something annoys you, let us be your vent and
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  we'll include it in the next episode.
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  With or without your name. That is your choice, Charles.
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  Anything else from you? No, I hope you enjoyed it.
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  Cool. If the bozo from Pure Gym is
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  listening to this, don't. Otherwise, I hope the rest of
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  you have a lovely, lovely week and I look forward to seeing you
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  all in the next episode.