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- 0:02Hello and welcome to the show. Today is a freestyle session and
- 0:08it's me just reminiscing about something that happened a while
- 0:11ago, maybe 2-3 months back now. I was giving a live session on
- 0:17how to start your business in three easy steps.
- 0:20This was a partnership between me and Avon Tech Hub.
- 0:24It's one of these business incubators in Abuja.
- 0:29And so they were taking a couple of people from the e-mail list
- 0:32and then we're running them through how to start your
- 0:35business idea. At least that was the whole
- 0:38point of the session. We assumed that there's still a
- 0:41couple of people out there who want to start a business but who
- 0:45don't know how. So that was the whole point of
- 0:47the training session. But something interesting
- 0:50happened. A lot of the people who showed
- 0:52up apparently already had businesses.
- 0:56There were like 3 or 4 people who were in the fishery space,
- 1:01which was quite a coincidence because that was after the time
- 1:03that I had made those podcast episodes about what to do if
- 1:08you're going to get into the fisheries business.
- 1:10I mean like how I would have handled it if I was going to get
- 1:12into the fisheries business because during the Christmas
- 1:17holidays, my wife and I, the kids who are back home in
- 1:20Makudi, that's the capital of Benue State, and my wife is a
- 1:24fish person. My in laws are fish people, my
- 1:26mom is a fish person. I don't eat fish.
- 1:29And so they just turned out to be a fish fest.
- 1:32So today catfish dried, tomorrow catfish fried, next tomorrow
- 1:39catfish prepared, You know, that sort of thing turned out to be a
- 1:41fish fest. And so I thought it would be a
- 1:43nice idea to use some of the principles that we talk about
- 1:46over here on the podcast and try and illustrate and show hard one
- 1:50would get into the business. So it turned out to be an
- 1:53interesting coincidence that the people in the fisheries space
- 1:55showed up. Then there was someone who
- 1:58wanted to start a business in what's it called?
- 2:03I think it's called no, not aquaculture.
- 2:04What's it called? Something agriculture.
- 2:09That is where you. Well, because normally what
- 2:12happens is if you want to farm or you want to plant, you have
- 2:15to wait for rainy season. For some crops, you need to wait
- 2:18for the dry season and then things like that.
- 2:20But then in some parts of the country, particularly up north,
- 2:25OK, well, plateau is not N but you know, plateau and above.
- 2:28Now, some parts of the country where they're beginning to fool
- 2:30around with this sort of thing, is it irrigation, farming or
- 2:33something? Well, the whole point is you set
- 2:36things up so that water, nutrients, everything is
- 2:40available all year round. So in your greenhouse or on your
- 2:43plot of land, you're going to be able to grow whatever it is you
- 2:49want to grow all year round. So somebody wanted to start that
- 2:52business. Then I think there were two or
- 2:54three other people in fashion, but you get the gist.
- 2:59All the people that were gathered there, let's say 90% of
- 3:02them already had their own businesses.
- 3:04So it turned out to be an interesting session because I
- 3:06came there prepared to talk to people about how to start a
- 3:09business, but then only delving into business challenges for
- 3:13people who already had businesses.
- 3:15Now there's one person in particular who was there and I
- 3:18could tell that she wasn't there because she wanted to start a
- 3:21business or she already had a business.
- 3:23She looked like a marketer. And after you spend a while in
- 3:29these sorts of communities, you sort of figure out how you you
- 3:34just kind of figure out, you know, who is who.
- 3:36You get a sense of who these people are.
- 3:39So she looked like a marketer. Well, of course, before the
- 3:41event began, I was engaging everyone, having conversations
- 3:45with everyone. It turned out that she indeed
- 3:46was a marketer, and I tried to ask about what she does.
- 3:52She told me about some of the services and I had already
- 3:54figured out that the reason why she was there was because she
- 3:57was trying to market our products and our services to
- 4:00people who are there. And yes, I'm not going to fault
- 4:05her for what she did, because the truth is we need to look for
- 4:08ways to draw more business, no matter how we can.
- 4:11But I really think that when people come for business
- 4:14networking sessions, things like that, I really think it's the
- 4:17wrong kind of place to try and do a direct sell or a direct
- 4:21pitch for people because you find that when people come
- 4:24together for some sort of business engagement, they are
- 4:26there for another kind of purpose.
- 4:30So the reason why in theory people were there nowaday was
- 4:34because they needed to learn how to start their own businesses.
- 4:38So you come in to sell your products and services to people
- 4:41who are concerned about starting their own businesses.
- 4:44I'm sure you can see how it's it's it's not a good job.
- 4:46It's going to be very hard for you to have those sorts of
- 4:49conversations. Now it turned out that most of
- 4:51those people are business owners, but the dynamic is still
- 4:54the same. All the people are business
- 4:56owners who have come for a business seminar because they're
- 4:59trying to learn something or maybe because they're trying to
- 5:02sell their own goods or services.
- 5:04So you showing up and trying to hawk something on them.
- 5:09So excuse me, it's probably not a good idea.
- 5:13Sorry. Still recovering from these off
- 5:15road. OK.
- 5:17So that's one reason why I think it's not a good idea.
- 5:19So if you're one of those people, you're a marketer, you
- 5:21see that we're a bunch of business people are going to be
- 5:23gathered here, let me go to sell my product or my service.
- 5:26That is why I don't think it's a good idea.
- 5:30The interest is probably not going to be there.
- 5:33Now another reason why I think you shouldn't be using these
- 5:36kinds of taxes is because it's probably not the best use of
- 5:39your time. Because let's face it, we were
- 5:41there for the event. The event was scheduled to be
- 5:43for two hours. I'm AQ and a kind of person.
- 5:47I like question and answers. I like when people challenge me
- 5:49on the ideas. This doesn't make sense.
- 5:51How do you do this? How will this apply to my
- 5:53context? I love those sorts of things.
- 5:56So with the Q&A, people asking questions and us trying to flesh
- 6:01out things, especially around how you can use artificial
- 6:03intelligence to help start your business.
- 6:06So in the midst of all that, the program ended up spending three
- 6:09hours. Now, let's face it, as a
- 6:11marketer, your time is limited. Are you truly going to come to
- 6:14an event, sit down there for three hours and only hand out
- 6:17your Flyers to maybe 30 or 40 people?
- 6:21That is not a good use of your time.
- 6:23I think you're better off walking into the streets, going
- 6:27to the car park or the bank. You look at all the expensive
- 6:30cars and you put your Flyers only on the expensive cars.
- 6:33I think that'd be a better way to spend your time, at least.
- 6:36If you do that within three hours, you probably would have
- 6:39distributed about maybe 200 Flyers. 300 Flyers.
- 6:43I mean, who knows how many banks that you can visit.
- 6:46So for those of you who are based in Lagos where banks are
- 6:48close by, that might not be a bad idea.
- 6:50In Abuja, banks are little. How was that word?
- 6:54Is it interspaced or whatever? You know, really spread out.
- 6:57So trying to get to all the banks to be a problem.
- 7:00So I think coming as a marketer trying to disguise yourself in
- 7:05this sort of thing to sell your wares, to drop your Flyers,
- 7:09probably not a good idea. Your time could better off be
- 7:11spent elsewhere. So if you're someone who uses
- 7:17uses these kinds of tactics, I these are the reasons why I
- 7:21think you should try something else, optimize your time.
- 7:28Now there's one more thing, and I think it's the key thing, why
- 7:30I wanted to make this podcast episode.
- 7:34When we started talking about the services that she was
- 7:37representing, it turned out that she was a marketer for a what's
- 7:43the word? Should I say conglomerate?
- 7:46You know, when you have one business person or one business
- 7:50company having a portfolio of companies and products or
- 7:54services. So was that kind of situation.
- 7:57So technically speaking, it was all one name, like Dangote, for
- 8:01instance. Yeah, Dangote, But on that
- 8:02Dangote, there's Dangote Cement, there's Dangote Spaghetti,
- 8:07There's Dangote juice, there's Dangote transportation, there's
- 8:13Dangote and you get the point. These are all desperate things.
- 8:20So if you're a marketer and you're trying to use a short run
- 8:24approach to market your Dangote products and you want to talk
- 8:28about transportation and talk about spaghetti and then cement,
- 8:32you know the the the customer base is wide and too varied.
- 8:35You're not going to be able to have very focused conversation.
- 8:39And when it comes to these sorts of things, if at all you want to
- 8:42sell in these sorts of things, you have to be extremely
- 8:44targeted about what you're trying to sell, the message that
- 8:47you have and who it is that you're going to talk to.
- 8:49So this lady came for this event.
- 8:51She was going to market her products or services, but then
- 8:54she started talking about photography.
- 8:56Then she spoke about videography, then she spoke
- 9:00about event planning, then after that she spoke about dispatch
- 9:05skills. And then after that there was a
- 9:08little bit of was it cryptocurrency or something like
- 9:10that. Then there was also interviews,
- 9:14documentaries, commercials, then there was also drone coverage,
- 9:20Then there was also 360° booth. That is that thing where, you
- 9:24know, you're standing, you're looking fly and the camera spins
- 9:27around you and captures you from every single angle.
- 9:30Now some of you might be confused, wondering that, you
- 9:33know, I might just making stuff up, you know, really I'm not.
- 9:35I'm actually holding the Flyers right now and looking through
- 9:38them and we're not done. So there's a list of OK, OK, so
- 9:45turns out we're done. But you see what it is that I'm
- 9:47trying to say. You're coming to the event, you
- 9:49want to market some products or services, but then you don't
- 9:52even have a clear idea of who it is you're going to talk to or
- 9:56what it is that you're going to sell.
- 9:57Instead, when you engage someone, you're going to try and
- 10:01talk about photo photography, videography, dispatch, skills,
- 10:06cryptocurrency documentaries, commercials, drone coverage,
- 10:11360° booth. Now let's face it, when you have
- 10:16that kind of marketing message that is garbled, how do you
- 10:19think you are going to be effective in getting someone to
- 10:21buy? You've just gone there with a
- 10:23shopping list and telling everybody this is what is on my
- 10:26shopping list and you expect to make a sale.
- 10:28That's not how it's not going to work that way.
- 10:30You're better off coming sitting at the event.
- 10:33Try and read the room, OK? Is this mostly a singles crowd
- 10:38or is this mostly a a crypto crowd or whatever?
- 10:42You read the room and then you blend accordingly.
- 10:45So if you came for the business seminar, you're a marketer, you
- 10:48want to market your products or services and it looks like
- 10:50everybody here is a tech bro or a Texas or a cryptocurrency
- 10:54bunch, Then what you do is you forget all these other things
- 10:58and only and start the conversation on the crypto
- 11:03Flyers and then see how things go.
- 11:06In fact, I actually think that the best thing to have the lady
- 11:08should have done actually was to show up and to try and use this
- 11:12as a lead gathering exercise. So she should have showed up,
- 11:17maybe been a part of the seminar or maybe not.
- 11:19But she should have engaged in conversation with as many people
- 11:23as possible and collected the phone numbers of as many people
- 11:27as possible so that the day after she can now follow up in
- 11:31much more detailed business conversations.
- 11:33And I think that that's a better way to go about it.
- 11:36That way, in the phone conversations or the SMSS or the
- 11:39WhatsApp messages that will follow with people the day after
- 11:42the event, she's going to be able to extremely be extremely
- 11:45targeted for the crypto person. She will talk about crypto
- 11:48products for the lady who is single.
- 11:51She will talk about wedding photography for the guy who is
- 11:53just engaged. She will talk about videography,
- 11:57what else? For the person who's looking for
- 11:59extra income. She will talk about dispatch
- 12:02driving opportunities and then on and on and on.
- 12:05So bottom line, the reason why I'm trying, why I'm making this
- 12:09episode is we're still fresh in 2024.
- 12:14OK, Well, not fresh. We are in April.
- 12:16OK, So that's four months. OK.
- 12:17It's it's becoming stale, but there's still those of you who
- 12:21are interested in business education, those sorts of
- 12:23things. You're going to be going to
- 12:24events. But please, I'm just trying to
- 12:26let you guys know you want to be effective at sales and
- 12:29marketing. I really don't think when people
- 12:31show up for a networking session or business sessions, things
- 12:37like that. I really don't think that's the
- 12:39best time for you to go around trying to sell your products or
- 12:42your services. And then plus, let's face it,
- 12:45your city, it's a small city. I mean, no matter how big it is,
- 12:49it's a small city. So Abuja is big, roughly.
- 12:52Well, they say 30 million people.
- 12:54I don't know how true that is, but let's face it, there are not
- 12:56too many tech UPS in Abuja and tech up people kind of hang out
- 13:01in the same circles. If this is what you do, go for
- 13:04the seminar, try and steal contact sheets or try and market
- 13:08or whatever. After a while, you know, people
- 13:10know you and they avoid you. It's like, oh, that Lady that
- 13:13came last time. Oh, she has come again.
- 13:15OK, is that crypto girl. She has come again.
- 13:17And there might be some venues where they might actually deny
- 13:21you. What's the word?
- 13:24Deny you entry. So it's a small crowd.
- 13:28Don't poison your reputation. If you want to sell, you want to
- 13:32do your marketing gig. You know we can't begrudge you
- 13:36because you have to make a living.
- 13:37That's the reason why your boss pays you as a marketer.
- 13:41Sit down. Give it some thought.
- 13:42Don't just approach every single crowd.
- 13:44Approach the crowds that you think gives you the best
- 13:47opportunity to find people who might be interested in what it
- 13:50is that you have to sell and what it is in your product or
- 13:55your services. Try and figure out the right
- 13:57crowd, show up in front of them and try and maximize your time
- 14:01and your opportunities. But sitting down in a three
- 14:03hour, 4 hour seminar only to hand out 40 or 50 pamphlets?
- 14:08That's not the the best way to use your time.
- 14:12But even if you still want to try these tactics, please don't
- 14:15show up and then start talking about photography, videography,
- 14:20dispatch, driving, cryptocurrency, documentaries,
- 14:26commercials, drone coverage, 360° booth.
- 14:30It it's it's a bit much, you know.
- 14:32Try and be smart and pick one, have a little conversations or
- 14:36another thing. I'm at the end of it.
- 14:38On one of the Flyers there were 121234.
- 14:43This is 4567. Are these different phone
- 14:47numbers? OK, seven.
- 14:48I'm counting the phone numbers here.
- 14:50So these are 7 phone numbers. Then let's see 48748, nine, 8-9
- 15:00and then three more. Is this 89?
- 15:03OK, yes, nine. So you are 9 phone numbers on
- 15:06it. Whenever we have a call to
- 15:08action and we're trying to get people to take the next step,
- 15:10please and please and please limit the number of options that
- 15:14you have. Chances are studies have shown
- 15:17in America and in the US anyway, chances are that if you also
- 15:20want to take an action and you give them too many options,
- 15:23people are not likely to take either one.
- 15:26So if your call to action is. If you're interested in any of
- 15:29these, here are these nine phone numbers.
- 15:31Call any of these nine phone numbers.
- 15:33That is not a good call to action.
- 15:35The most likely saying yeah you're probably better off.
- 15:38Look if your if your business orga the person who paid your
- 15:42your salary has nine phone numbers then you know it is what
- 15:44it is. It has nine phone numbers.
- 15:46But in that case ask the person what line do you use.
- 15:50OK, here are two Econet. I'm sorry, not Econet.
- 15:53Econet no longer exists 9 mobile.
- 15:56Here are two nine mobile numbers.
- 15:58You can call either of these ones if you're interested or you
- 16:00can call to book an appointment or whatever you hand the person.
- 16:032 phone numbers, 1234 numbers, That's OK Don't wrap up these
- 16:07conversations and then hand people the list of nine phone
- 16:10numbers and say and pick whatever it is that you want.
- 16:13So for call to actions, limit them.
- 16:18So this whole thing of multiple Flyers, total 9 phone numbers
- 16:25and all that. Please don't do that.
- 16:28Just the more tailored you can, the better.
- 16:31So she was having a conversation with me.
- 16:34A couple of people were also listening.
- 16:36It wouldn't have been a problem to say are you interested in
- 16:39finding more, finding out more. And if I said yes, I was It's
- 16:42not a problem asking or what line do you use?
- 16:44OK, MTN, OK, why don't you call this number?
- 16:47You take a viral and you draw a line underneath it.
- 16:50Trap, say this is an MTN number, Call it.
- 16:52Somebody will respond to you right away.
- 16:55You have made it easier. There is going to be no decision
- 16:59fatigue because the next day after the seminar, if I'm
- 17:01curious about crypto and I want to call, all I have to do is
- 17:04pick up that flyer. There are 9 phone numbers there,
- 17:07but the phone number I'm supposed to call, she underlined
- 17:10it sharply and I will call that number.
- 17:13So that's how it works. So thank you very much for your
- 17:15time and attention. Sorry this episode was a little
- 17:18bit rambly. I know there was a lot that we
- 17:20had to touch up and touch on, but I just want to let you guys
- 17:23know because I see people coming and trying to sell like this.
- 17:28I hope you're not. But if you still decide that you
- 17:31must sell that these sorts of things, then sure, no problem.
- 17:34Just rewind this episode, start from the beginning, make some
- 17:37notes, and then adopt your process accordingly.
- 17:42So thanks for your time and attention.
- 17:44Connect with me on WhatsApp. My name is Tavishima Ayede.
- 17:47I'm the host of the show. You can confirm the spelling of
- 17:50my name and my e-mail address from the link We're currently
- 17:52listening to this episode. Also, connect with me on
- 17:55WhatsApp. I'd love to hear from you guys,
- 17:57especially when you have questions or you want to say I
- 18:00agree with this, I disagree with this.
- 18:02Can you explain this some more or how do you apply this to my
- 18:05own context? I like getting those kinds of
- 18:07questions. So the phone number is
- 18:0808064662140. The country code is +234 if
- 18:16you're not Nigerian, so I prefer WhatsApp.
- 18:19I'm still on Telegram, but to be honest, I check my Telegram
- 18:22maybe once every two weeks. But if you send me a WhatsApp
- 18:25today, I definitely will respond.
- 18:27You know, latest tomorrow evening, so thanks for your time
- 18:30and attention. I'll catch you guys at the next
- 18:32episode.