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Night of the Demons – The One Where Lipstick Meets the Afterlife · Two Cents: We See Scary Movies

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Welcome back to Two Cents. We See Scary Movies.
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This month's theme is not just another Halloween movie, a
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celebration of every Halloween horror flick that doesn't
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involve a certain Shatner masked babysitter enthusiast.
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I'm Talon fueled by caffeine, bad decisions and the belief
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that Halloween decorations should stay up year round.
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And my Co host Dan, a man who would absolutely survive a
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demonic possession because even evil spirits can't tolerate his
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sarcasm for more than 5 minutes. Now before we dive in, we're
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doing something a little different this week.
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Normally we go scene by scene through every screen stab and
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questionable life choice these characters make, but today we're
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changing it up. We're breaking the movie into
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three parts, beginning, middle and end, and talking about what
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really stands out, what makes us laugh, and what just doesn't
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make sense. If you like this new format, let
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us know, because if it works, we're keeping it.
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This week we're taking on Night of the Demons from 1988, a cult
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classic that proves Halloween parties are just funerals with
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cheaper decorations. It's got demons, bad dancing,
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and more butt shots than a late night in the Max lineup.
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So light your Jack O lanterns, hide your lipstick, and let's
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head to Hull House because this party is about to get possessed.
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Let's get into it. All right, Part 1, Rick or
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Terror? Halloween night kicks off with a
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lineup of delightfully terrible people.
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Judy, our sweet but naive final girl, is prepping for her date
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with Jay while her bratty little brother cracks jokes about her
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breasts because, hey, it's 1988. Meanwhile, Angela and Suzanne
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are busy shoplifting at a convenience store while Suzanne
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bends over long enough to make the two desk clerks forget their
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own names. Angela steals snacks, Suzanne
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steals the scene. Elsewhere, Stooge, Helen, and
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Rodger are driving around, being loud, crude, and painfully 80s.
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Stooge wounds an old man who mutters that they'll get what
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they deserve and we'll find out later.
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He means that literally. Eventually, everyone ends up at
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the infamous Hull House and abandoned Mortuary with a
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reputation for murder and evil spirits.
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Angela suggests the seance in front of a mirror, because
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that's obviously the move and a haunted Funeral Home.
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The mirror cracks, something escapes, and Suzanne gets
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possessed first. Angela starts following close
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behind, and the party really takes a sharp left into
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supernatural chaos. So, Dan, first thing I want to
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talk about are those amazingly wonderful opening credits.
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The four minutes of Yes, 80s animation.
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It was, I was like, Oh my God. Because you know, a lot of times
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if you have opening credits, they at least play over the
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movie to some extent so you can see what's going on in the
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movie. While these words are there.
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This was not like that. This was literally 3 1/2 minutes
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of nothing but credits and animation.
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They were like flying around ghosts and there were two D
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skeletons it. Was like, it would have worked
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if it was like on a children's sort of movie.
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Like if it was like opening to like a children's.
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Right. Halloween movie because it was
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just like a pump, like a a weird pumpkin that was like wrapped
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around the moon and then it like it dissolved away from the moon
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and it was just really odd. It was like it was trying to
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dare you to quit watching before it even began.
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If it wasn't for the podcast, I probably would have.
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Because and the first was like, all right, OK.
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And I'm like, wait a minute, how long is this going to go on?
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I was like, Oh my God, this is ever going to end.
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And then I fast forwarded it to see if there was actually a
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movie attached to this. Just two hours of just animation
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and credits. This is the longest opening
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credits I've ever seen. Could you imagine sitting in a
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movie theater watching that for three fucking minutes?
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3 1/2 minutes. No, I mean, and, and you know,
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I've recently come to find out that I that I have ADB and so
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I'm just sitting there playing on my phone waiting for the
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credits to go. Freaking done, No?
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Kidding. I was like, good Lord, yeah, the
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credits were ridiculous. I was like, Oh my God, this is
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perfect. This is going to be the setup
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for some bullshit. No.
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Anyway, another thing I'd like to talk about is the obligatory
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80s nudity. Yeah, well, it was, it was
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really, really, really creepy when she goes up to her closet.
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I mean, this is after she takes off for sure.
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I mean, she still has a bra on. So.
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I mean, I mean, you can see through the bra, but it's not
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like skin, right? And she goes up to her closet
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and her little brother pops out with a scary mask and he starts
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talking about her boobs. It's like, dude, I know it's
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like the 80s was full of like, rapey, pedophilic, incestuous
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jokes. I'm like with like, how can I
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get through this shit? Maybe that's why we are the way
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we are. Maybe This is why Gen.
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X is known to be the way it is. Could be watched outside of not
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having parents around ever. Which is right?
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Watch these movies. Well, I mean, it's like I tell
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my daughter, like, you know, I used to be a kid.
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My parents would tell me I couldn't listen to certain
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music. I'd find a way.
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I don't care what you listen to because you're going to go find
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a way. I don't care.
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Yeah, exactly. You know, same thing with
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movies. Like if my parents said Oh no,
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you can't watch this, guess what?
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I found a way to watch it and I saw the boobies.
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Right. Lots of them.
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Well, the funny part about well, outside of that scene, because
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that scene was weird. I was.
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That was probably the most shocking part of the whole movie
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because he was like maybe 11-12. Yeah, yeah.
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I put put about 11 or 12. Right.
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And her boobs are like and and again, she had a bra on, but I
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could see her nipples and everything through it.
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Oh. Yeah, you could still see
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through it. Yeah, and the kid was like
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talking about her boobs. And I was like, what the hell?
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No. Yeah, if you keep, it's
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something like if you keep growing up, you know your boobs
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are going to keep getting bigger or something like that.
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Yeah, something I would comment about her boobs getting so big,
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but but it was funny because when she was when she got home,
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she starts to change to put on her costume, which she's
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dressing as Alice in Wonderland and she has this big heavy long
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sweater on. She pulls her pants off and she
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pulls her underwear off, which I don't know why, but she pulled
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her underwear off. Well, I do know why and, and but
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the the sweater was below her butt.
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So she turns around and she pulls up the sweater and then it
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falls a little bit. So she pulls it up again.
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Like why do you need to do that when you're in your bedroom
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alone? Like why are you doing that?
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You're only doing that because the director is like, pull up
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your sweater. We need to see ass, pull up your
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sweater and tail down, pull it up again.
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Because if you're in your room alone, what are you?
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What are you doing that for? Like nothing.
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There's nothing there to do that for unless you want your little
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brother in the closet to see it. Some of the movies I've seen, I
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Mean, Girls do weird things in their bedrooms by themselves,
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you know, and in locker rooms, I mean, I mean, you guys do all
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this weird stuff in locker rooms according to the movies, you
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know, you guys have parties in there and shit, you know.
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Right, right. All the time.
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And then, of course, that leads to when Angela and who's having
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the party at the whole house. So she's this gothic kind of
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weird girl in school. She's having the party.
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Her and her friend Suzanne are at a convenience store.
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When it first opens on them, it's Suzanne bent over.
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And I first I thought it was Judy, the girl that we just saw,
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but yeah. Because they do look a lot a lot
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alike. I confuse them a couple times.
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Well, I don't think they physically looked alike, but
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from behind, from the ass side, they did.
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When you wake up, they look alike.
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Because when we last saw Judy, she was, when she finally put
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her stuff on, she put that tool like the fluffy stuff that goes
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underneath your dress, makes you stick out, whatever.
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And she put that on. So when you see Suzanne at the
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convenience store and she's bent away over to show her ass so
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that the two guys at the counter are just watching her butt it,
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all you see is that fluffy stuff that's under her dress.
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And so I thought, oh, it's her. I was like, why is she bent?
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I was like, really? They're going to be this obvious
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about. Right and and to make note, the
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2 cashiers, they're the quintessential nerdy looking
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guys of. The Oh yeah, yeah.
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Oily. Yeah.
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Really dressy glasses, Yeah. Anyway, so while she was keeping
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their attention, her friend was stealing stuff and putting in
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her a huge bag and she walked right out in front of them
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carrying this huge bag of stuff. Another person that I want to
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talk about is Stooge. Yeah, Stooge.
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I don't, I don't understand the whole thing in the 80s where you
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have this greasy, really awful, like fat guy and who's like
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relatively abusive and he's always got like this really like
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sweet, innocent hot girl, right? Or, or like at least like she's
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very cute and shit. Like, yeah, that gave me some
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false advertising growing up. And he wasn't relatively
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abusive. He was blown up abusive.
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I mean, and it's funny because at at the beginning of this
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movie, Judy is at home waiting for her boyfriend Jay to her or
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her date. I don't know if he was
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necessarily her boyfriend, boyfriend or not.
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I couldn't really tell. But she was waiting for him to
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show up to pick her up, to take her to this dance.
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There's let's go to, I guess, a high school dance maybe.
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And he's on the phone with her and he's convincing her that he
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wants to go to this party and she doesn't want to go.
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And he's like, oh, come on, let's just go.
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And I know how much you hate that because you think they're
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assholes, but Stooge was an absolute asshole. 100%.
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He was so shitty to that girl. He called her bitch, she called
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her names, he yelled and screamed at her constantly.
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She wasn't doing anything and he was constantly yelling at her.
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I was like, Dan must really hate this guy.
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Oh, I did. I mean, he was, he was a piece
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of shit all the way around. Yeah, he was a total Dick.
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You know, I mean, if that, if that's what the producers and
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the director were going for, they did a fantastic job in
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making them look like an asshole.
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Oh yeah. Like complete and total.
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Absolutely. And yeah, he is the
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quintessential 80s. I picture him being, you know,
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he's on the football team. So that's the only reason why
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he's cool and like people want to hang out with him.
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He's a big guy and he's he had the crazy kind of his sides were
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shaved and had like like stripes and he had like the Mohawk, like
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not a Mohawka. What's the business in the
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front, right in the back, The bullet, the bullet.
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So he had that going to, but he had that.
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Every 80s movie had that guy. It was somewhere.
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It was very Joe Exotic. Yeah, yeah.
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Only bigger. Like we had a big backer too,
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right? Right.
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And no mustache. I also have to comment that I
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don't know what it is between the 80s and I would say the
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last, I don't know, 20 or so years.
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These girls and these guys by any stretch, they're supposed to
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be in their teens. Yeah, right.
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They're supposed to be 1617, maybe even 18 years old.
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Right. They look like they're 28, yeah.
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Whereas girls today and a lot of guys today, they look like
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they're 12, but they're 28, right?
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So, do you have anything else you'd like to add about the
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first part of this movie? The first part of the movie, No,
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just that the girls were obnoxious in the store, overly
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sexualizing themselves and it was just a little over the top.
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Yeah, yeah. All right, so now on to Part 2.
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Hell breaks loose. So the mirror seance unleashes
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pure evil and things unravel fast.
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Helen and Roger try to leave, but they hit the invisible
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you're stuck here wall That's that surrounds the property
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inside. Suzanne fully crosses over to
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demon territory and pulls off the most famous seen in the
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movie, the lipstick trick. Meanwhile, Jay proves he's a
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slimeball by ditching Judy to hook up with Suzanne.
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That idea buddy Angela is next to fall, her possession marked
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by a dance sequence that goes on forever.
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It's part flashdance, what a feeling, part satanic, and 100%
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way too long. Stooge predictably becomes her
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next victim, lured in by her new demonic confidence before
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joining her on Team Evil. Max and Franny decide the best
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place to hook up is in not a coffin, which is how you know
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this group's collective IQ is somewhere around room
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temperature. The mood shifts from horny to
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horrifying as one by one everyone gets picked off or
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possessed. So I want to talk about Angela's
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dance. I don't know if you were able to
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stay awake during that dance. I had to go back a couple times.
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That dance like the credits took forever like why do we do we
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need for her to dance this long? But there's a character in this
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movie also, his name is Sal, who was the quote UN quote bad guy,
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kind of. He's comes off as the shitty
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prick who wants to date Judy, the good girl who's there with
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Jay, and he goes to this party uninvited.
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Yeah, he ends up going up to Judy's house and pressuring her
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younger brother to tell him where the party is and all this
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other stuff, and the brother ends up caving and tells him
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where it is and he's just like a a slimeball.
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I mean, he's not as much of an asshole as the other guy, but
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he's still pretty slimy. Yeah, he comes off as you're
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just. He's kind of that.
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He doesn't really have slicked back hair, but he has that kind
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of look, you know, where he's like a one of the greasers from
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the Outsiders or something. He's he's there and he's
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watching Angela dance and he's watching and watching and I'm
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like, dude, I, how are you not leaving?
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This is the most boring thing I've ever.
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She's just dancing by herself and of course she's pulling up
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her dress really high unnecessarily so we can see her
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underwear with the Garter belt and all that stuff and see her
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ass. So we have that.
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I guess that's the whole reason for the scene.
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Well, remember, he's he's the 35 year old, 16 year old.
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Right. And I've seen that guy in a
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million things too. So I mean, you know, he's there,
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you know, even though the dance is taking forever, because you
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know, he might get a glimpse of of something that 3516 year old
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guys go for. Although he didn't seem that
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thrilled by it, he seemed to. Fall.
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That's true. That's true.
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And then of course, there's the lipstick scene.
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Now this is the infamous lipstick scene, I guess what
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this movie is known for. Have you seen this movie?
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Before this. No, no, I can't say that I have.
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I can honestly say that I've had to watch this movie a couple
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times because I kept on falling asleep on it.
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Not because it was boring, but that didn't help.
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So I fell asleep like just before the like the dancing
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scene. It was like probably like 25
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minutes into the movie and I end up waking up to this girl
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sticking her lipstick into her boob.
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And I'm just like, what the Hell's going on?
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What did I miss? Why is this happening?
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Because I mean, I woke up to her shoving lipstick into her boob.
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I'm like, I need to go back and find out what's going on because
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this is weird. So this is Suzanne, and Suzanne
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is the one that was bent over at the convenience store.
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She's very obsessed with how she looks.
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And because Angela makes a point when they leave the convenience
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store to comment on Suzanne looking at herself in her
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mirrored compact. So she makes a comment about how
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she's constantly having to see how she looks and this and that
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or whatever. I just want to make a note too
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that Suzanne, even though apparently she's very worried
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about how she looks, going to be awful to say she should be.
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, she's not looking very
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good right now. So the lipstick scene, so this
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is what happened in lipstick scene.
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She's in the bathroom, she's been possessed.
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She was the first one to get possessed.
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She runs in the bathroom and she takes her lipstick out.
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We see that she's already drawn around her mouth, really wide
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outside her mouth and then up her face and almost like clown
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makeup the way she had it around her eyes and up in her on her
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face like that. But then I was like, what else
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can I do with this lipstick? I don't know what else to do
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with it. I need to do something.
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This is she starts taking it down her chest and goes under
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her breast, around the breast and back down towards the
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nipple. Then all of a sudden, even
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though you don't see the hole, it, it creates a hole and she
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pushes the lipstick into her nipple.
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And I was like, why? What's this for?
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And if you, I mean, and there's no blood trickling out, it's
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just her inserting the, the lipstick underneath her areola.
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Yeah. You could tell by looking at it
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very closely that it was obviously a, a markup of her
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body. Yeah.
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And you could tell like the hand was not part of that body
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because the way it was angled and pushing the thing through,
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you could tell it wasn't like her hand.
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I don't know if like, other people would notice that.
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But just the way the whole thing was set up, like you could just
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tell, like the poor, poor way that it was filmed.
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Yeah, you could definitely tell it was a prosthetic, and it was.
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That's what I was. Looking.
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Yeah, it was. It definitely had a weird look
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to it. Then while she's in there doing
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this, Jay, who's supposed to be the date or the boyfriend of
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Judy, comes in and he doesn't see her put the lipstick in her
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breast. But of course, you can see all
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the lipstick all over her face and stuff.
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Doesn't seem appalled by it at all or think that it's weird.
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Like he doesn't even act like it's weird that she's doing
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that. She's got this lipstick all over
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her face and all over her body, right?
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All he knows is this girl's going to suck my Dick.
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He's totally OK with it. He wanted to go off with Judy
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somewhere alone, but she was like, no, just hold me.
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And he was like. Yeah, she's.
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She's like the prudish. Yeah.
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Oh, yeah. This is the perfect time for us
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to bang. No, I just want you to hold me.
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And then they're, like making out in the basement.
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Yeah, like on the floor. And then all of a sudden, like,
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it all stops. And now he's with, you know.
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She's with Suzanne, Yeah. Because, of course.
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Classic 80s slasher horror. Or you only live if you're a
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virgin, right? So she somebody had to stay a
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virgin. You know, and you know, Susan at
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some point during the scene stands up and lifts up her dress
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and she's got no underwear on. So you see everything Kapow.
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It's right there. Right.
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Yeah. And it was just so random and
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useless that you know what was the reason?
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I mean, I don't know when. When I watch porn, I want to
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watch porn. When I want to watch a regular
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movie, I want to watch a regular movie.
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I don't like the two mixed together.
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These lines should not cross. Porn keeps to keep the acting
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out and regular movies should keep the Bush away, right?
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But eventually, Jay lays down. She straddles him while they're
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fucking. She then digs her thumbs into
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his eyeballs and kills him. So good job, Jay.
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Well, before that, she's riding them.
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She's don't look at my face. Oh, yeah, don't look at my face.
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And he's like, what? Huh.
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Do I look pretty? Do I look pretty to you?
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And he's just like, oh, what? Huh.
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And then all of a sudden, like, she's got like a demonic face.
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Yeah, Yeah. And then like, she pushes her.
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Then she puts her fingers into his eyes.
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And right. Yeah.
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Then he's then he's not happy anymore.
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Yeah, he did not care about her face at all.
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He's just like, I just want to get laid.
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Yeah, you just close your eyes, Yeah.
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I don't need to see your face. We do have to go back a little
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bit. Angela's a goth girl because I
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think we kind of forgot a little bit.
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Like when they're sitting in front of the mirror and it turns
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black, someone makes a comment and then the black goes away and
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she's like, Oh my God, you ruined it.
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And then like all of a sudden the mirror falls down as if
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someone is holding it so it doesn't fall down and break.
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Because it had like this, it had like this really like slow MO
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sort of fall, but it, it wasn't in slow motion.
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It was just like someone's like just gently pushing it down,
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right? And then we hear the mirror
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shattering noises, quote UN quote.
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And they had this really stupid shot that also went on for way
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too long of the shattered mirror where everybody's standing over
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their mirror and everybody has their own little spot in the
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broken mirror sections. Right.
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So the funny part of the mirror, the mirror scene, is that yes,
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it didn't just fall over, it fell over very slowly, like it
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obviously was on a string or something so that it wouldn't
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crash and break. Yeah, they probably couldn't
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budget it. And I also thought it was funny
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that when they lifted it up, the pieces of the mirror were face
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up. They should have been face down.
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Yeah, yeah. And then that's true.
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Yeah, and then of course you had that, all the broken pieces.
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You can see the faces of everybody in a piece of the
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mirror, which was ridiculous, right?
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I'm gonna assume this movie is a called classic because it's
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ridiculous. Yeah, I would say so.
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The slimeball, his name? Stooge, right, Because I didn't
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pay attention enough to know their names.
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Stooge. And he goes complete ballistic
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asshole on his girlfriend for the mirror falling over.
20:57
It's like, look, it's her assault, why don't you do that?
21:00
Oh my God, you're such a stupid bitch.
21:02
She's just sitting there just like everybody else.
21:06
She was just sitting there and she's sitting like, I'm so
21:10
sorry. I didn't mean what did you do?
21:12
You just sat there. Right.
21:14
Yeah, that poor girl. She definitely need a new
21:16
boyfriend. I don't know how she got with
21:18
this guy. No clue.
21:19
Because she was. Of all of them, she was probably
21:20
the cutest. She was.
21:22
So it was like, how did you end up with this guy?
21:24
And she's the only one that actually looked somewhat like a
21:26
teenager. Right.
21:27
Oh yeah, Yeah. Like like an older teenager, but
21:30
a teenager nonetheless. Right.
21:31
Yes, yeah. She probably could have passed
21:34
this 19. Yeah, totally.
21:36
So then of course, you have the coffin hookup.
21:38
So there's this other couple, Max and Franny, and they were
21:41
there. They were just extras, basically
21:44
just have extra people there. You know, they had some lines
21:46
and stuff or whatever. Of course they had their own
21:47
scene, which was in the casket. They decide that they want, they
21:51
wanted to try and get an award for the most creative place to
21:54
die, I guess. So they're like, let's fuck in
21:56
this haunted Mortuary inside a casket.
21:59
So they of course, hop in and they start going to town.
22:02
Well, that doesn't last too long because of course, one, they're
22:06
having sex and everybody knows in the 80s if you're having sex,
22:09
you're definitely going to die. And I can't remember exactly who
22:12
killed them. Was it Angela?
22:13
No, it was Stooge. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
22:15
Because I forget at one point stooge dies.
22:18
Yeah, because Angela killed Angela, kissed Stooge, which
22:22
caused the part. I guess this demon could split
22:26
up into parts. So part of the demon went into
22:29
Stooge and he became possessed. Right, so he got herpes, right
22:33
And and I believe that's how Susan got it or Angela got it
22:36
too is because Susan kissed. Yes, Susan kissed Angela.
22:40
Susan. Kissed Angela and I think it was
22:42
Stuart was like, hey, I want to go see this too because they
22:45
wouldn't throw a bed in together.
22:46
And yeah, you know, Stuart was being like all like, oh, I want
22:50
to see this, too. I just realized this is this
22:52
movie's APSA for. STD's.
22:56
For STD's, is there anything else in this part of the movie
23:01
want to talk about? We did the Bush, we did the
23:04
stooge yelling at his girlfriend.
23:07
No, we're good. All right, so we're on to Part
23:09
3, Demons at dawn. So the chaos peaks as the
23:13
survivors dwindle, Beauty steps into full on final girl mode,
23:17
swinging weapons, lighting fires, and refusing to die.
23:20
Sal actually redeems himself, showing up just in time to save
23:23
her, but his moment of decency is short lived when Angela
23:26
tosses him off the roof and paling him below Judy and
23:29
Rodger. In case anybody forget about
23:30
Rodger. Rodger's still here, and he's a
23:32
black guy. Yeah.
23:34
That's true. I mean and.
23:35
And to be clear, Rodger has been there since the beginning.
23:38
Right. Judy and Rodger take refuge in
23:40
the crematorium, where Judy turns the gas on and torches
23:42
Angela and Stooge. It slows them down, but doesn't
23:45
finish them off. The demons close in, forcing
23:48
Judy and Rodger to make one last, last desperate move,
23:50
escape over the property wall. They scale the barbed wire,
23:54
cutting themselves as the demons claw from below.
23:56
But when the two of them drop to the other side and cross that
23:59
narrow stream that runs under the wall, everything stops.
24:02
The demons can't cross that barrier.
24:04
It's like an invisible force field keeping the evil bound
24:07
inside Hull House. So they're laying there on the
24:09
ground. You can see all this smoke and
24:11
then you see that weird demon face.
24:13
There's like this weird demon face that they show at the
24:15
beginning. When the demon first shows up,
24:17
he's in the mirror, but he yeah, he it shows up again, and then
24:22
it dissipates and then everything's fine.
24:24
So then Roger and Judy, they leave, they head home, it's
24:28
daylight, and they're walking down the street, and we see the
24:31
old man from the beginning who was yelling at Stooge and saying
24:34
that they're going to get what they deserve.
24:36
So the final punchline of the movie is that bitter old man
24:39
from the opening scene sits down for breakfast, eating his wife's
24:42
homemade apple pie baked with the razor blade apples he
24:46
prepped for trick or treaters. Q Bloody karma So quickly talk
24:51
about Sal's death. So Sal you know, he's he's made
24:55
out to be the bad guy, but technically he becomes kind of
24:58
heroic a little bit. So Angela and Judy were in a
25:02
room upstairs and Sal came in and saved Judy from Angela.
25:07
They were like in a regular sized room and they were close
25:09
to a door on the door side of the room and all the way across
25:12
the room were some windows. Angela backhands Sal and he
25:16
literally goes flying across the room and out the window.
25:19
Now he doesn't die here, he dies later on on the roof when he
25:22
gets into another fight with Angela.
25:24
But this scene I thought, my God.
25:26
I mean, I guess demons are strong apparently.
25:28
I mean from what I've been told. But she literally just a little
25:32
slap in the face and he went flying all the way across the
25:35
room and out the window. It looked very weird the way it
25:38
was in terms of just how far he had to go for that to work.
25:41
But yeah, then he does end up on the roof with Angela.
25:45
She ends up pushing him off and he falls in, falls onto some
25:49
stake or some metal pipe or something that's sticking out of
25:52
the ground. And then there's like already a
25:54
headstone for him that says Sal Romero and his birth date.
26:01
And then, like it said, died just now or something like that.
26:04
Yeah, Died today or tonight? Yeah.
26:07
I have a feeling that his last name is supposed to be an homage
26:11
to George J Romero. That's what I thought too when I
26:14
saw it. I was like Romero, okay.
26:16
That's my deductive reasoning. Right.
26:18
So Judy also, by the end of the movie, she's going through her
26:21
final girl evolution because in the beginning of the movie she
26:24
was all meek and mild and naive and prim and proper.
26:27
But of course, by the end, because she starts off in that
26:30
way, as they always do, and then she ends up being this she
26:33
they're in, at one point, she and Roger stuck down in the
26:35
crematorium, she finds a door and opens it and it's an oven.
26:40
She's like, oh, this is an oven and freaks out a little bit.
26:43
She pulls out a skull. Yeah, Then we hear the bad guys
26:47
all banging on the door and they're banging on the door.
26:49
And so she's like freaking out. And she says, well, I'm going to
26:51
have to grab a pipe to use a weapon.
26:54
So when she grabs the pipe off the wall, off the inside of the
26:56
oven, you can hear the gas. And the gas is coming up the
26:59
pipe. She is sitting there trying to
27:02
light. She has a lighter trying to
27:04
light the gas that's coming out and thinking once she finally
27:07
gets this thing lit the whole room is going to blow up because
27:11
it was blowing out gas like crazy for longest time.
27:16
That's how you check for gas leaks, Yes, you know, you smell
27:19
gas. You just start throwing matches
27:21
at it. And Rodger, he's no help at all
27:25
in this scene. He is hiding in a corner, balled
27:28
up in the fetal position. Oh.
27:31
Yeah, Rogers, Rogers dressed like absolutely useless.
27:34
Her her whole bad ass, like transformation is using this
27:38
pipe that, you know, supposed to be a flamethrower and it's
27:41
barely shooting out fire, right? It's not focused by any stretch
27:45
of the imagination. And she's just like, just like
27:49
kind of flopping it around very lightly, like, Oh my God, now
27:52
I'm going to get them. And, you know, she ends up
27:54
getting Angela and Stooge and, like, they're, they're just
27:58
spinning around, like, on fire. Yeah.
28:00
And she's just like, oh, my God, help me turn this off.
28:03
You need to find a valve. And Roger's just, like, sitting
28:06
there. And he's like looking around
28:08
and, like, the valve is like, literally right next to him.
28:10
And he's just like, looking around, like, where is it?
28:13
And then he finally gets to it, which is literally like a foot
28:16
away from him. And he gets there and he grabs
28:19
the top of it. It's like, here we go.
28:21
Let's turn it off. You know, it's like, you know,
28:24
let's let's get this thing off. It took him so long to turn it.
28:29
I'm like, what are you doing? Just turn the fucking valve.
28:32
And I don't know if we were supposed to believe that because
28:34
it's an old rusty valve maybe that it's hard to turn.
28:38
But his arm was just kind of casually leaning up against the
28:41
wall while he was trying to turn it.
28:42
Like he wasn't putting any effort into it at all.
28:45
And I was like, Oh my God, people.
28:47
And the other part, we're supposed to believe that the
28:48
pipe that she pulled off the inside of the oven is just going
28:51
to come all the way out and stay connected to the gas line.
28:55
It wasn't like it was a hose. And and that's the thing, too,
28:59
is this brings up another plot hole.
29:00
This is supposed to be an abandoned crematorium.
29:04
Yeah. Why do they still have gas
29:06
going? To it.
29:07
That's the other thing. I was like, how do they even
29:09
have gas? I mean I understand it was in a
29:13
time when they would have to go and manly shut things off, so I
29:16
mean they could have forgotten to do it I guess.
29:19
Well, obviously, because that's what what's his name, Rodger had
29:22
to do and turn it off. But you'd think that they'd have
29:24
to turn off the house all together, but yeah.
29:27
So yeah, that that whole gas flame throwing thing was
29:31
ridiculous. But she did something on fire
29:33
and they didn't get away from them.
29:35
Yeah. And so when they get to the the
29:37
wall, that was not there in the beginning, right?
29:40
Because the gate was there. Yeah.
29:43
They're like Rogers climbing up the wall.
29:46
And he's got barbed wire. You know, he's climbing up the
29:48
barbed wire. And, you know, I mean, I'm sure
29:51
climbing up barbed wire sucks, but he was doing it the correct
29:54
way. He had his hand in between the
29:56
barbs, but yet he's still bleeding like a pig.
29:59
Right. And the way the barbed wire was
30:02
attached to this wall, like why was it attached to the wall the
30:05
way it was? Why was it like across the top?
30:07
It was literally like specifically put in points that
30:12
they had to I guess to help them crawl on it, right?
30:16
It was weird that was set up. And so he gets on the top and
30:20
he's laying down. It was his hand down like down
30:22
to Judy. And there's a good like 3 or 4
30:25
foot gap between their hands. So Judy ends up climbing up the
30:29
thing and then Stooge his, his zombie demon persona comes
30:35
bursting out. He's all burned up.
30:37
And we have a very, very random, unneeded, unnecessary slow
30:42
motion shot of him running, running, you know, through the
30:46
thing. And it was only like 2 seconds.
30:49
That's why it was like useless. It was 2A2 second slow motion
30:53
run. It was for no.
30:55
Reason. Because the house was pretty
30:57
close to this wall, right? Yeah.
30:59
So it's like, do you do a slow slow MO of 2 steps?
31:04
Right so finally Judy gets up to Rodger's hand, Stooge ends up
31:08
grabbing her leg and it starts to burn her and she's like all
31:11
upset about this and and this make makes Rodger like fall over
31:16
the wall. Right.
31:17
He just kind of like. Plops down.
31:19
Yeah. Oh, and I do have to go back for
31:22
a second where Angela was trying to get Judy, you know, when she
31:25
was hanging off the, the side of the roof and, you know, Sal fell
31:29
and stuff. When she's going over the way
31:32
she falls, it's on her back, right?
31:35
And Roger is like, set way far back.
31:39
But when she falls, she hits Roger.
31:42
Yeah. And she falls like, head first
31:44
into Roger, not on her back. Like whoever the person is in
31:50
this movie who was supposed to check the continuity right, did
31:53
not do a very good job. OK, so now going back to Roger,
31:59
you know, he he did like this real again, stupid fall because
32:03
he like almost like rolled over the wall.
32:05
Yes. And so he would have, he would
32:07
have landed on his side the way he fell, but he landed like on
32:12
his back, facing a totally different direction.
32:14
Yeah, he's holding on to her hand, and all of the demons are
32:17
now there and they're all pulling on her.
32:19
So she's still holding on to the barbed wire, but with one hand
32:22
and his hand with the other, and he can't pull her up because
32:24
they're pulling on her. And I really think they're going
32:26
to pull her her dress off so we could see her naked ass again.
32:28
Yeah, that's what it looked like to me too, and I thought that
32:30
that's where it was headed. But it didn't happen.
32:33
So then he loses his grip and yeah, he just like, rolls over,
32:37
which is weird looking. And you'd think, yeah, he'd just
32:40
land right there at the bottom of the wall on his side.
32:43
But no, he's like turned around, facing another way.
32:46
It was weird. But he can just hear her
32:48
screaming and screaming and screaming.
32:49
Help, help, help. She's almost pulled down by
32:52
everybody and next thing you know, you see Roger's hand again
32:55
and he's back up on top the exactly the way he was before.
32:58
He grabs her hand and this time he's able to pull her up, but
33:02
then they both fall over and they fall over again in a really
33:06
weird way. It didn't make any sense
33:09
whatsoever. Not, not, not in the way that
33:11
they fell off the wall. And that's why I wanted to go
33:13
back to the roof scene, because it was pretty much the same
33:16
thing. Like, yeah, they fell a certain
33:18
way on one scene, and they landed in a totally different
33:21
way, unnatural in the other way. Right, like the way if if he
33:25
were pulling her up on that huge brick wall, she would have still
33:29
had to pull herself and it would have been like right at the end,
33:31
like they'd be, you know, trying to get over.
33:33
But it was almost like he full swung her around, right?
33:37
That's true. It looks like a very violent
33:39
throw too. It was like he suddenly got this
33:43
burst of energy that he never had before in his life.
33:45
He couldn't even turn a damn valve.
33:47
But now he's one arm pulling and swinging her around off over
33:51
this brick wall and then they both go tumbling over.
33:54
I was like, so stupid. What the fuck?
33:58
What's the word for it? Shit, What's the word for when
34:01
you are marking where you go? I should know this.
34:05
I did enough theater. I should know.
34:06
But oh. Choreograph choreographed,
34:08
probably. The same guy who was supposed to
34:11
make sure continuity was right. I'm going to guess so.
34:15
But yeah, so they're over there. And the only reason why these
34:18
demons couldn't get across is because there's a stream of
34:21
water that's going around the property underneath this brick
34:25
wall. Because Judy at one point makes
34:27
a comment, oh, if we just wait until the sun comes up, they'll
34:29
go away. But apparently, no, it has
34:31
nothing to do with sunlight. It's all about plumbing.
34:33
Right. Well, well, yeah.
34:34
And it also has to deal with the idea that it's Halloween night,
34:37
because on Halloween they can't go to hell.
34:39
Right. That's, that's what she was
34:41
saying about this. She's like, once the sun comes
34:42
up, they they can then go back to hell.
34:45
But that never ended up being part of the the thing that got
34:47
rid of them because it was still dark when they just ate it.
34:50
It was because they couldn't get over the street.
34:52
Right. And and they got over the wall,
34:54
you know? So like, I guess, yeah, they had
34:56
no reason to be there anymore if they got over the wall.
34:59
Right. Yeah.
35:00
So, I mean, it's just all right, let's just give up.
35:02
Yeah, demon rules are weird. Right.
35:06
So and then of course at the end, and we didn't mention this
35:09
in the beginning, but the old man when he said, you know, the
35:12
kids will get what's coming to them.
35:14
You see him with an apple because he just got back from
35:16
the store an apple and a thing of razor blades.
35:19
So his plan was to put razor blades in the apples because
35:22
that was a big deal. You want to talk about things we
35:24
thought we were going to die from when we were kids.
35:26
One was being on fire, stop, drop and roll.
35:29
The other was quicksand and the other was razor blades inside
35:32
apples or your candy in general, or staples in your candy during
35:36
Halloween and the. Yeah, I don't remember the
35:39
staples, but I do remember the poison candy.
35:43
I remember razor blade and the apples, which the only reason
35:47
why that became a thing was because of Halloween too,
35:50
because it was a scene of that happening.
35:52
And there's from what I understand, there's no
35:55
documented evidence of that ever happening.
35:57
And honestly, you have to be a complete moron to bite into an
36:01
apple that has a slit in it because the razor blade itself,
36:06
you know, you're, I mean, you might not see, but they're
36:09
pretty big. I mean, it's not like it's razor
36:11
thin, you know? I mean, I mean, not to give
36:13
people ideas, but you have a better luck with like a, a thin
36:17
syringe needle than you do, you know, a razor blade.
36:21
Yeah. You know, we're straightening
36:22
out a staple. So that was the other thing that
36:24
I'd always heard was like, they're going to take staples.
36:26
They're thin and tiny and you can straighten it out and then
36:29
stuff it in there because a razor blade is it's, it's
36:31
ridiculously huge to hide in an apple and not know that that's
36:36
there. But that thing that I don't know
36:39
if it was ever before the 80s, but of course we grew up in the
36:42
80s, so that's all we would know.
36:44
But that still carries on today because like, what, a couple
36:46
years ago? Drug gangs, we're going to start
36:48
putting fentanyl in kids. Can crystal meth and fentanyl?
36:54
It's like, I'm sorry but I don't know any drug dealer that's just
36:56
going to give that much shit away for free.
36:58
Absolutely. Not.
37:01
You know, not that I know many drug dealers, you know, because
37:03
I really don't, but I mean, I have come across a few and I can
37:07
guarantee you they're not going to wrap it up in candy and be
37:10
like, hey, little kid, here you go.
37:12
Even though they're drug dealers, they're still
37:14
businessmen. Right.
37:16
You know, I mean, they need to make profit.
37:19
You know, regardless of what's going on, they need to make
37:21
profit. So they're not going to give
37:22
their shit away for free. Maybe to the crackhead that's
37:25
coming up to them, be like, hey, you want to try this shit to
37:27
give you one hit? Oh, guess what?
37:29
Your next one's like 50. Bucks, right?
37:32
Right. Yeah, My mom, Oh my God, that
37:34
Christmas that it was about fentanyl craze and the Calowan
37:37
candy. She was like, watch out for
37:38
Weston's candy because they're putting fentanyl in the candy.
37:41
I was like, and I was like, mom, really?
37:44
You think drug dealers are going to waste their product giving
37:48
fentanyl to kids for free? Why?
37:51
Why would they do that? That doesn't make any sense.
37:53
Think about what you're saying. Turn off the news.
37:57
But anyway, the razor blade. So the guy, his wife the next
38:00
morning makes him an apple pie with all the apples that he put
38:03
razor blades in. And at first I was like, how
38:06
could she cut into these apples and not know there were razor
38:08
blades in there? But then it looks like she
38:10
didn't care that there were razor blades in there.
38:12
She was very happy that he died and he had a gruesome little
38:16
death. Like it was like, and I don't
38:18
know how he didn't feel him in his mouth when he was chewing
38:20
the pie, but they got into his throat and cut through his
38:23
throat. So or.
38:24
Chew them at all. Right.
38:26
Just. You know, because I mean, the
38:29
the guy was definitely portrayed as like, he's just a miserable
38:33
prick. He was just a miserable old man
38:36
that just didn't like kids. And I mean, they didn't really
38:38
go into the relationship between the two.
38:41
Like, you don't know what was going on.
38:42
She was just like, yeah, I made a pie like when, when you were
38:46
sleeping. And as if he couldn't smell the
38:49
pie if that was the case. Yeah.
38:51
Hell, I didn't even know he had a wife until that scene.
38:54
Right. Well, neither did I, but like
38:55
when they're talking, but it's like, oh, when did you have time
38:58
to bake a pie? Oh really, bitch?
39:00
Like you couldn't smell the apple pie?
39:01
Like I'm not bake on like cold apple pie, but you got warm
39:05
apple pie. I'm smelling that shit.
39:07
I'm coming down. I'm getting ice cream, you know,
39:10
like. You know that'll wake me up for
39:12
my sleep paralysis. Exactly.
39:14
You know, but he's like, oh, I'm really surprised that you made
39:17
this pie. And when did you have time to do
39:20
it? And she's like, oh, yeah, I use
39:21
the apples, the apples. And all of a sudden, his neck
39:24
starts shredding from the inside.
39:26
It's like, what the Hell's going on?
39:29
Like, I mean, I if a razor went into your throat, you would not
39:35
have external injuries. It would just like organ and
39:38
slice your esophagus. Yeah, it sound like they're
39:41
trying to escape throat. Let me out of here and they just
39:43
come to your neck. You know, and you know, blood
39:47
would probably definitely come out of your mouth, but it
39:49
wouldn't go through your throat and, and shredded up like a
39:53
Freddy Krueger. Glove, Right.
39:54
Yeah, but I am glad, though, that they put that in there
39:57
because it was a satisfying ending for the movie, right.
40:00
That was a Dick because otherwise, if they had just left
40:03
it the way they had, it would just been like, OK, because you
40:06
just see you end up just seeing Rodger and Judy walking down the
40:09
sidewalk past the old man's house.
40:11
And that's which is how the old man gets reintroduced again.
40:13
That's it. They walk home.
40:14
I guess that would have been the end of the movie.
40:16
So. And it was somewhat gratifying
40:18
because the guy was a Dick and and.
40:20
Just want to know. Roger made it through the whole
40:22
movie in the 80s. I think that's pretty fucking
40:25
amazing. Considering that he was black,
40:27
absolutely. Yeah, I was like, whoa, because
40:30
I thought for sure at the end, like even if he got her over the
40:34
wall, he was going to fall back into the demons or something.
40:36
Oh yeah. A.
40:37
Black guy is going to survive an 80s horror movie.
40:40
Right. I completely expected him to die
40:42
totally. Like, I mean, granted he didn't
40:44
die right away, which I'm just like, oh, what's going on here?
40:47
And then, like, the next step and the next step, he's a final
40:50
little guy, OK? Like, he's surely going to die
40:54
now. Yeah, but he lives.
40:56
He also was not a major focal point of the movie until the end
41:00
really, right? Like you, you saw him here and
41:03
there with other people, but he really didn't have a main focus
41:07
until near the end when he. Because he was instrumental in
41:10
turning off that fire. Absolutely getting her over the
41:15
wall. I mean right, right.
41:16
That strong armor over there. So oh.
41:19
Yeah. I mean, like when he threw her
41:20
over. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
41:22
So I was going to say, I mean, like for a final guy, he really
41:25
wasn't on the masculine side of things.
41:28
No, yeah, he was terrible. He was more like the nerdy guys
41:33
from the beginning in the convenience store.
41:35
Yeah, he was pretty when? When push came to sharp man, he
41:39
threw her over that wall man. Yeah, he he manned that shit if
41:44
anybody is aware who he man is. Well, I mean, he's made a
41:48
resurgence is there's toys out there and they're making a
41:51
cartoon. So this is a resurgence of he
41:54
man, right, right. If they don't know now, they'll
41:56
know eventually the here in the near future.
41:58
So what are your overall? Unless you have something else
42:00
to say about this last. Oh no, I have nothing else to
42:04
say about this movie. So do you what?
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What are your thoughts and how many cents would you give this
42:10
movie? I thought this movie was
42:12
actually terrible right on every level.
42:15
The only thing that made it any interest to me as far as a
42:19
horror movie was the end scene when the guy gets the razor
42:23
blades. Even though I'm criticizing how
42:25
razor blades would actually do damage, it was still the best
42:28
scene in the entire movie right? Although it didn't really make
42:32
sense to the movie considering the whole thing was supposed to
42:34
be about demons, right? And all of a sudden, like we
42:37
just have like a random like murder, you know?
42:41
But it was still the best part of the movie.
42:43
I, I would rather see a movie based on that guy then go
42:47
through this. And I am actually going to give
42:50
this my first zero cents. Wow.
42:54
The music was awful, the acting was terrible.
42:57
The special effects were God awful.
43:00
I mean, don't get me wrong, I like practical effects, but
43:02
these were done horribly. There was nothing redeeming
43:05
about this movie. At least Fever Lake we can go
43:08
back and joke about and and have some some mild entertainment out
43:12
of this. I would never watch this movie
43:14
again and if someone made me I would.
43:17
I can't say it because we would have to edit it out.
43:20
I would be interested to see how the remake is compared to this
43:23
movie. I am somewhat interested.
43:26
I'm hoping that whatever the remake is, it's better.
43:28
I mean, I will. I will give it a shot.
43:31
I don't know why, I think I just hate myself that much, but I
43:38
won't give the remake a try. Right.
43:40
It can't be any worse than this. Right, We might have to do a
43:44
month where we, cuz there's been a few of these movies that have
43:47
had remakes where we just go and do the remakes and talk about
43:51
them and compare them. To yeah, that could be that
43:54
could be one of the months like remake month or whatever.
43:57
Right. So zero sense.
43:58
Wow. OK, so this movie, so the music,
44:01
when you talk about the music, that the music for this movie
44:03
was specifically written for this movie and it had that very
44:07
80s sound to it that was trying to be like a maybe an 80s hair
44:12
band sound to something. But ballads, the the hair metal
44:17
ballad kind of feel to it. But yeah, the music was acting
44:20
was awful. I mean, I'm trying to think if
44:22
there was anybody, like everything seemed overacted
44:26
except for actually the only one I think that did a decent job
44:29
acting was the girl that was dating Stooge and she was only
44:33
in it for like 5 minutes. So I felt like the, the acting
44:36
was like especially Judy, like Judy just seemed like so put on
44:40
like she was trying so hard to come off as this sweet naive
44:44
girl. It was just so over the top with
44:47
it, but everybody was kind of over the top pretty much.
44:49
It had that feel to it, especially once I I.
44:52
I would still go back and say that the the old man also did a
44:56
good job. Yeah, and actually it was funny
44:59
because that talk about the end of the movie, I thought they the
45:02
way they were going with that, I thought that maybe they were
45:05
like the keepers of the house. And like they were there was
45:09
going to be some deep story where these two old people are.
45:12
Like maybe they were caretakers at the at that Mortuary or they
45:15
ran the Mortuary at some point, or they were family of the
45:17
Mortuary people and that they knew they were demons and that
45:20
they, you know, were hoping to feed the demons or something.
45:23
I thought that's where they were going with that because all of a
45:25
sudden, because like I said, I didn't even know we had a wife
45:27
until the final scene. It never showed her at all.
45:30
And so the way she was acting, the way she was talking, I
45:33
thought, oh, OK, this is what's going on.
45:35
And. I thought she was going to be a
45:36
demon. Yeah, something like that.
45:39
It connected to the movie, but it had nothing to do with the
45:42
demons whatsoever. And I was like, it just seems it
45:45
could have been its own movie. Right.
45:48
Because it had nothing to do with the demons at all.
45:49
It was just like, let's get some revenge of this old man who's an
45:52
asshole, right? I was really hopeful because it
45:54
is a cult classic and I'm and like I said before, it must be a
45:58
cult classic because of how crazy bad it is.
46:01
I feel like there's probably some called classics out there
46:03
that are so crazy bad that that's why they're called called
46:07
classics. Absolutely.
46:08
Because it's, it is. It's just so much over the top
46:12
and wacky. Just stuff and horrible
46:15
choreography and horrible direction and horrible
46:18
everything. I don't know so much as I would
46:20
go with a 0, but I'm not going to go much higher.
46:23
I'll give it 1 cent just for the fact that it is a movie that I
46:27
could probably tell people is so awful.
46:30
Like you were saying earlier, it's so bad they'd watch it kind
46:33
of kind of thing. So I might give it 1 cent.
46:35
But then they would hate you at the end of it.
46:37
Why? Did you do this to me?
46:40
We are not friends anymore. In fact, burning down to your
46:43
house. You're having Apple.
46:55
So, do you have any other things you would like to say about this
46:58
marvelously horrible movie? Oh, we can put a sock on this
47:01
one. God I wonder how many people are
47:02
going to give a shit in the comments when they find out we
47:05
don't like this movie. I am sure we're going to get
47:08
lambasted. All right, Sock applied.
47:14
That was Night of the Demons, a movie that proves if you hold a
47:16
Halloween party in an abandoned Funeral Home, you deserve
47:19
everything that happens to you. We got 3 minutes of cartoon
47:22
credits, a demonic dance recital that refused to end, and a
47:25
lipstick scene that should come with a warning label.
47:28
But hey, at least the old man got his just desserts.
47:30
Literally next week we're keeping the Not Just Another
47:34
Halloween movie theme rolling with.
47:35
House of the Devil. Where can we see it?
47:37
To be. To be and trust me, this one
47:40
proves the scariest thing. Halloween isn't ghosts or
47:42
demons, it's people who don't know when to stay home.
47:45
Until then, be scared, be prepared, and don't get caught
47:48
in the dark.