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- 0:01This month, March of 2028, sorry, I said 2028, this March
- 0:06of twenty 26th, that was the 8th of March.
- 0:10Yeah, 8th of March, 2020, sixth. I think it's 8th of March every
- 0:13single year. That was International Women's
- 0:16Day. And so of course, you know, I
- 0:19made an episode to commemorate that much earlier.
- 0:23Then let's see what else apart from that, you know, I've been
- 0:27invited to speak, you know, a couple of things so that you
- 0:32know, people can get my own opinion from a sales and
- 0:35business development perspective about what we can do to move
- 0:38womenfolk forward. Now, one of such speaking
- 0:41engagements was the Elevate Women's International Conference
- 0:46which held at the Pope John Paul the Second Catholic Centre in
- 0:51Abuja. And of course, the theme was
- 0:53Elevate for our rights, Justice and actions.
- 0:56And the event held yesterday, I think 2 days ago.
- 1:00No, yesterday, yeah. So yesterday, that was Wednesday
- 1:03the 25th of March 2025. S Your boy was one of the guys.
- 1:09When I say your boy, of course you know what I mean.
- 1:11Me, I was one of the people who was up for a panel discussion.
- 1:15Now, unfortunately, I was only asked one question and funny
- 1:20enough, discussing with my wife, I, you know, was one thing I
- 1:25said I wasn't going to say. But The thing is the person who
- 1:28was the moderator of the panel asked me the question.
- 1:31And so this was my response because I was the only man on
- 1:35the panel, you know, at these things, usually it's mostly on
- 1:41all female panels. So I was the only man on the
- 1:43panel. And so the lady after the
- 1:46moderator, after speaking to the other two people, the first lady
- 1:49on the panel was she's in the tech space.
- 1:54So I know in the tech space, the manufacturing space, the
- 1:56manufacture of solar panels and the manufacture solar panels
- 2:00locally. And I thought, man, that is
- 2:02really impressive. Really, really impressive.
- 2:05I didn't know that we have the manufacturing capacity for solar
- 2:07panels in Niger. So it was impressive to see a
- 2:11Nigerian woman LED startup. Should we say startup?
- 2:16No, not startup. Well, there's some startup
- 2:18elements, you know, to our business, which are the
- 2:20manufacture of solar panels and I think they get their raw
- 2:23materials from Ogun State. Is it Ogun State or Oshun State?
- 2:26I can't remember, but one of those States and I thought was
- 2:29really, really impressive. Then another lady in the panel
- 2:32was from the non, the non governmental sector and I can't
- 2:40remember which parts of advocacy that they worked on.
- 2:44So I was the only sales guy didn't put it that way sales guy
- 2:51on the panel. So after the panelists asked the
- 2:54first speaker and the last speaker their own questions,
- 2:59they now you know because they put me in the middle of both
- 3:03women and of course that usual joke of blessed is here amongst
- 3:06women. So anyway they put me in the
- 3:08midst of both women. They asked question, one person
- 3:10answered then jaunt and they asked question 3.
- 3:13The other person answered because they wanted me to answer
- 3:15last. And then the lady said, it is
- 3:18good that I am here because when these sorts of events happen,
- 3:25they don't usually have menfolk. So it is nice that there's
- 3:29menfolk in the audience. And then the lady asked me A2
- 3:31power question number one, what are women doing wrong?
- 3:35It would be nice to hear from the menfolk.
- 3:38And then #2 she asked that how can women get get, I can't
- 3:44remember, get respect, you know, when they're in the room or, or
- 3:48something like that. So, so excuse me recovering from
- 3:54me from the sore throat. Now, of course, you know that in
- 3:59Niger, these situations can get very dicey when you have a
- 4:03symposium, you know, and it's about families, agenda, women's
- 4:07rights, you know, that kind of thing.
- 4:09And then there happens to be a member of the enemy in their
- 4:11midst, a member of the patriarchy.
- 4:14Then you ask them these kinds of questions.
- 4:18So is it nice issue, but is what I did to take the edge off.
- 4:23First of all, I leaned into the fact when I grabbed the
- 4:27microphone, I told him, OK, you know what?
- 4:30Granted I'm on this stage, I'm the enemy.
- 4:33Granted, I'm a member of the patriarchy, granted, but I told
- 4:38him that look, as I'm here on this stage now normally I for no
- 4:42one talk. But The thing is you guys ask me
- 4:44this question. So this is how we're going to
- 4:46take it. Just assume that as I'm on this
- 4:49stage, just assume that I am your son and I am your brother,
- 4:54all of you here. You are my mommies, you are my
- 4:58aunties, you are my sisters. So as I'm on this stage now, as
- 5:01I don't climb this stage now, so now would they view me Now,
- 5:05brother, be that, now, son, be that.
- 5:07That's, I suppose, view me. That's why I told them and I
- 5:11reminded her that normally on a family level, sometimes you
- 5:16know, your son will Miss Yan. All right, your younger brother
- 5:20Gumisian is only a normal something.
- 5:23But now, so family they be, you know, your brother will try and
- 5:27say something. You know, you Misian and Una, go
- 5:30quarrel. We're in the midst of that.
- 5:31The truth will come out. So that's how I told them.
- 5:33I leaned in. I said, look, I'm the enemy.
- 5:36But today, just take me as your son.
- 5:37Take me as your brother. They laugh.
- 5:40I said, OK, no problem. We're making progress.
- 5:42So. And I told them that, look, one
- 5:45problem that our sisters are making at these events is
- 5:49whenever people come right, it becomes a complaining 1st and
- 5:53they complain. And I admitted women have reason
- 5:56to complain because the injustices that have been levied
- 5:59against women in the past are still continuing today.
- 6:03And given the trajectory, it'd be like, say the thing was to
- 6:06continue for tomorrow and beyond.
- 6:09So they have legitimate reasons to be angry.
- 6:13Every woman get legitimate reason to be angry.
- 6:16But so one mistake is that when we come for these events, we sit
- 6:22down, we complain, but then we don't make any resolutions about
- 6:26how we're going to move forward, about how we're going to fix
- 6:28this problem. And I told them that one mistake
- 6:31that they don't make is that resource people day from other
- 6:36fields like me that can show up by these kind of things to say
- 6:40this is the way forward. We want to advance this agenda.
- 6:43OK, no problem. We're going to need selling
- 6:46skills. We're going to need negotiation
- 6:48skills. We're going to need what else,
- 6:52You know, alliance building skills, stakeholder management
- 6:55skills, you know, all kind of skills, conflict resolution
- 6:59skills, let you name. But when people host these
- 7:03events, when I recall resource people to come and talk on these
- 7:07sorts of things, so people show up and the focus is aluta
- 7:10continua, Victoria assata. And I said no problem.
- 7:13We suppose they shout, we suppose they sing for whatever
- 7:16back whatever. Aluta continua down with the
- 7:18patriarchy, yes, we suppose they sing.
- 7:20But The thing is, you also call resource people so that it's not
- 7:24just a matter of when we get on stage, we do, we go to complain
- 7:27and then there's no way forward. And then I said that, look,
- 7:30because time don't pass because the first speaker spoke for
- 7:33maybe 20 minutes. The second speaker spoke for
- 7:35maybe 10 minutes. So if two people already don't
- 7:39carry like 20-30 minutes, you know, you know, how much time
- 7:43will I have? So I said look, because time
- 7:44don't go. The only thing I would say is
- 7:47every woman with dad is audience not supposed to get side hustle,
- 7:51not supposed to get business. Not just because of the
- 7:54independence and the money. We will enter your pocket.
- 7:57You understand, all right. And not just because of the, you
- 8:01know, there's a way that when you earn your own money, you
- 8:03just, it's where you go, you know, you go raise, you go carry
- 8:06shoulder and nobody can tell you nothing.
- 8:08Like for those of you who listen to the podcast, you remember
- 8:10that my sister-in-law was one time she was dating one guy.
- 8:13You know, I wasn't too happy about, you know, some stuff.
- 8:16But you know, that's how love is now.
- 8:20But then, yeah, happened. And then, you know, they broke
- 8:23up and everything. And the guy was acting funny.
- 8:26And, you know, that whole thing of, oh, I paid for this, I paid
- 8:28for this. And so that's how the thing now
- 8:29became. So after the whole thing settled
- 8:32now I noticed that any small thing my sister-in-law would say
- 8:36I pay my own bills. As you say we have full chest
- 8:39and I was like yes correct. Finally she gets it.
- 8:44I pay my own bills. If I'm paying my own bills, you
- 8:47can't come and tell me nothing. You can't come and tell me
- 8:51nothing. When you met me I was not
- 8:53suffering. If you leave me I will not
- 8:56suffer. You can't come and tell me
- 8:57nothing, I'll pay my own bills. I said yes, we're done.
- 9:01So that's the reason why my own opinion everyone must suppose
- 9:03get our own business. So then you wish we you will
- 9:07stand on your own 2 legs. I say I pay my own bills.
- 9:11What's come to worst you go value yourself, you go rate
- 9:13yourself, you understand. So that's one of the reasons.
- 9:17But then I also said that another reason why every single
- 9:20woman should have our own business.
- 9:22It's not just because, excuse me, the confidence we will get
- 9:25to say I pay my own bills, but it's also because you will learn
- 9:29some kind skills that will help you in other endeavors.
- 9:31So like my sister-in-law now you know, these are baking business
- 9:34and these are tutoring business and you know, everything you go
- 9:36learn some skills that will come in handy in the family.
- 9:38It will come in handy in politics, will come in handy.
- 9:41If my sister-in-law decides she should go into ministry, she
- 9:44won't become, you know, Pastor Apostle, you will come in handy.
- 9:49You understand, selling, negotiating, building alliances,
- 9:53relationship building, building rapport, effective proposals,
- 9:59effective presentations, conflict resolution.
- 10:05Sorry, another call was coming in, but you understand, you
- 10:08hope, you feel me. I hope you see where I'm coming
- 10:10from. So by virtue of the fact that
- 10:15any woman went inside the business space and would learn
- 10:17one or two teachable skills, your life would better for real.
- 10:23Your life will be better any which way.
- 10:25Even if the business crash, just because you take that step
- 10:30forward, you understand you're moving to the unknown uncharted
- 10:35terrain. You understand you go learn one
- 10:38or two things. Your life go better because you
- 10:41don't learn some transferable skills that will follow you
- 10:45every single day of your life. I don't know the reasons why I
- 10:49think everyone should do this because see, especially for it's
- 10:54unfortunate, but the women like my own Momsey.
- 10:57You know, life starts off nice, but unfortunately things happen
- 11:00and Momsey was left with five kids.
- 11:03I was the first of five, actually.
- 11:06Biological, true. Then the first of two, but the
- 11:08one with my Mama, you know, You know this part of the world.
- 11:12Now you adopt some kids. So shall we have 5 now when you
- 11:17have 5 kids looking up to you, you can't be a Princess no more.
- 11:21You understand you also life gets hard, you graft, you grind.
- 11:30So how did I ever enter these talks off?
- 11:34Sorry, forgive me when I talk about these things.
- 11:36You know my my brain just goes in a million places.
- 11:39But Sharon, I'm just trying to say we need learn some skills
- 11:44that will come in handy. You know your areas of life.
- 11:47And that's why I think every woman should have a business or
- 11:50a young woman should start a business at some point, whether
- 11:53the thing succeeds or whether the thing fails.
- 11:57So from there, that's just how I ended that part.
- 12:02And you know, I didn't mention the part about, you know, mumsy
- 12:06and then the five of us and that's how they gave me small
- 12:09clap and I was happy because I told my wife that look, if I go
- 12:13for this thing and I talk my mind that don't go beat me for
- 12:16that hole. Severe brushing.
- 12:20My wife was laughing and I said look so because of that when I
- 12:23go for this event, the team we do for my chest.
- 12:26I know we'll talk him. I'll just keep quiet.
- 12:28If they give me a question I'll just answer and nothing more.
- 12:34So what like I told them is because when I don't open the
- 12:38floor you would ask. I said let me answer honestly,
- 12:41but please, I'm speaking as a song.
- 12:43So if there's any woman, you know, any babe, any auntie, any
- 12:48mom, see any grandma, any whatever, who's listening to
- 12:50this podcast and the teens where the yarn they vex you severe
- 12:54vexing everything. They really, really vex you.
- 13:00I beg just understand that this thing where the yarn I'm coming
- 13:05to you as a son, I'm coming to you as a brother.
- 13:09That's how I'm coming to you because not just me, but also my
- 13:14classmates we plenty. So for me it was, you know,
- 13:18marital discord their mom sees on her own.
- 13:21There's one of my classmates him not call his name, but one of my
- 13:24video guys is only because popsy die, you know, but there are a
- 13:30couple of us men who have had to grow and we have been raised
- 13:35entirely by women. So sometimes people like us, I
- 13:41think when I recall us allies, people like us allies.
- 13:46It's just that, you know, we're men.
- 13:47So you say our patriarchy enemy. No, no talk.
- 13:51Sometimes we allies. You know, we're coming from a
- 13:53good place. I have been that boy that a
- 13:58woman has five children. She's trying to raise the same
- 14:01thing. We've this my video guy, The
- 14:06mumsy 2. OK, No, these are mumsy 7 kids.
- 14:09The boys 2. Then the babes 5.
- 14:14We have been those kids. Sometimes when we talk with a
- 14:18bold voice like this, I say my sisters now.
- 14:20So I suppose the wrong one or two things.
- 14:22You know, it's not because we are men trying to mansplain.
- 14:30It's because now on one day we be be king children.
- 14:35We are your children and we're seeing a couple of things that
- 14:38are mommy, maybe we can do better or big sis, I beg, maybe
- 14:43we can do better. Anyway, when I got home, I told
- 14:45my wife my wife was like, oh, OK, perhaps it went well and to
- 14:48marvid. OK.
- 14:49Maybe the reason why they don't beat me is because lots of
- 14:52people in the audience were, you know, mature women because the
- 14:57conference was attended mostly by if I had the table that I sat
- 15:00down. Once I sat down there, the woman
- 15:02started talking about her grandchildren.
- 15:03And you know, I like to put my wife on cruise.
- 15:05So I told my wife that look, she better be here.
- 15:07Who now I'm going to a woman seminar like babes go die
- 15:10everywhere, everywhere that will take my peek without tall, short
- 15:14big sling, you know, yellow black that will take my peek.
- 15:18So I like to put my iPhone blast like that makes you know to
- 15:22relax. So as I entered the venue now
- 15:25and I sat down, Luma started talking about her grandchildren.
- 15:29So now I text my wife. I say babe, while I do the only
- 15:33grandma did this place. So no single and correct babe.
- 15:38Everybody did married woman or grandma.
- 15:41So anyway, I was saying, OK, maybe it's because it wasn't
- 15:45much audience. That's why they didn't beat me.
- 15:47So the next time I'm invited to go to this sort of thing, if I
- 15:50gauge the audience and I see that all of them are young,
- 15:52young babes, you know, 203040, I'll keep my mouth shut because
- 15:56I know that if I say what I said again, in that kind of setting,
- 16:012030 year old, I know how to go beat me again, scratch my eye,
- 16:05come out. So anyway, there were a couple
- 16:11of things I wanted to talk about.
- 16:12Couldn't talk about that because I ran out of time.
- 16:16But I'm making today's episode just to let you know that I was
- 16:19at a women's international conference and I happened to
- 16:22answer one question. Even though I happened, I wanted
- 16:25to talk about a couple of other issues.
- 16:28But please, any woman listening to this thing, please just hear
- 16:30me as your brother and hear me as your son, OK?
- 16:33If there's anything I say that grate your mind, I beg.
- 16:36I'm not trying to mansplain. Please, I'm not trying to
- 16:39mansplain. I was asked and so I answered.
- 16:45Well, of course, always aluta continue Victoria SATA.
- 16:50Because whether it is marriage breakup or whether it is rape or
- 16:55whether it is war or whether it is spousal abuse or whether it
- 17:00is, I mean, whatever it is that is going on, I understand, you
- 17:03know, the woman bears an an unfair part of the brunt, you
- 17:07know, the woman and usually the children.
- 17:12So Victoria aluta continua, Victoria SATA, you know, we're
- 17:16here for you. I guess what I'm just trying to
- 17:18say is I'm just trying to beg that are some of these events we
- 17:22will throw, you know, yes, we are the enemy.
- 17:26You write some of us. Sometimes we have one or three
- 17:28important things you say. But just in case anybody miss
- 17:31young, just remember this person is talking as a son.
- 17:33This person is talking as a brother.
- 17:35That's the reason why you are comfortable to call us ally.
- 17:37And when family members fight, you know what you do is you you
- 17:41treat the air pop accordingly. So if anybody miss Young, you
- 17:45will let them know that look, bro or my son, come sit down.
- 17:49You know now. So you miss Young, you
- 17:52understand. All right.
- 17:54Anyway, so that's just it. In the next podcast episode, I
- 17:57will talk about the issues that I thought we were going to
- 17:59discuss if we had more time. So that's it.
- 18:03And that's all for today. I'll catch you all at the next
- 18:06episode. Oh, by the way, if you want to
- 18:08connect with me, you can call me, send me a text message or a
- 18:10WhatsApp message on 08064662140, just in case you're holding any
- 18:17kind of conference, any kind of seminar, and you would like me
- 18:21to show up and talk to your attendees, talk to your
- 18:24audience, and give my own unique perspective on something,
- 18:28especially from the sales and business development
- 18:30perspective. So that's it and that's all.
- 18:33Thanks for your time and attention.
- 18:34I'll catch you all at some other episode.