Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / OMG This Masturbation Article Is Enraging
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- 0:05Hi everybody, and welcome to the dr.
- 0:07Psych mom, show today, I am doing a podcast on something
- 0:12that I did a video about. And it was this ridiculous.
- 0:15Ridiculous. Scary, mommy article that I'm
- 0:20going to post in the description of this.
- 0:22It was like unbelievably stupid and misguided.
- 0:27I felt it was this woman was asking advice from another woman
- 0:30and this column. And basically the woman is
- 0:33saying that she has Sex with her husband wanted to times a month
- 0:38because she is too tired, but yet she masturbates every single
- 0:43morning in the shower and her husband was hurt to walk in and
- 0:47see this. So I mean, yeah, no shit, right?
- 0:50I mean like no shit. But anyway, so she asks the
- 0:54other woman who I don't know what her credentials are but
- 0:57either way she responds basically you go girl this is
- 1:01self-care. There's a here with this one is
- 1:04a A really great paragraph. Wait, hold that the great
- 1:08paragraph. In other words, sex is is an
- 1:12important part of intimacy but it's not necessarily in
- 1:14competition with your morning ritual of self-care.
- 1:19Maybe you could gently explain this to your husband, the next
- 1:22time he interrupts, maybe you can even offer to send him an
- 1:25explicit update at a picture. If he cleans up from the kids
- 1:29breakfast, giving him a little something to think about until
- 1:33your next rendezvous. Holy shit.
- 1:36Oh my God, as I said, in my secret, Facebook group, which
- 1:38y'all should join, and somebody gave me this showed this article
- 1:43in the group. I was like, could you imagine if
- 1:46this was gender reversed? So listen, so it's a guy in my
- 1:51now. Hypothetical gender reverse who
- 1:53writes in and says he's too tired to have sex with his wife,
- 1:56more than one to two times a month.
- 1:59But he's got a jack off every morning in the shower of course.
- 2:03And what He do when she's kind of trying to make him feel
- 2:07guilty about this. Could you imagine if the
- 2:09response was sex is important part of intimacy but it's not
- 2:14necessarily in competition with your morning ritual of
- 2:18self-care. Maybe you can gently explain
- 2:20this to your wife. The next time she interrupts,
- 2:23maybe you can even offer to send her a dick pic if she cleans up
- 2:28from the kids breakfast, giving her a little something to think
- 2:31about until you fuck her again, in two weeks.
- 2:34What But what that would be insane.
- 2:37The internet would just turn off.
- 2:39It would be consumed with people saying, what a turd this guy was
- 2:44this hypothetical guy, but yet like when it's the a woman doing
- 2:49it, it's like go good and gravy. It's not, it's not if she's
- 2:54having sex with him. Cool, you know.
- 2:57But, like the other thing that I wanted to say was the way that
- 3:01it's titled is just Because you're bored with sex.
- 3:06Doesn't mean you can't masturbate.
- 3:08What what like that is crazy. The guy isn't board with SEC.
- 3:14It's a relationship, right? Like he probably feels
- 3:17tremendous grief and loss over there not happening at all sex
- 3:24life, which is probably the definition of a sexless
- 3:27marriage. If it really is only once a
- 3:30month, she said, 122 you know, women tend to overestimate these
- 3:34you know from In my experience as a couple's counselor.
- 3:37So really it's a pretty much a sexless marriage because she's
- 3:41quote board with sex and so instead, she's going to use her
- 3:46limited finite energy to jerk off.
- 3:50Female equivalent in the shower every day.
- 3:52Oh my God. What if it was a dude?
- 3:55I mean that guy would like reap such horrible consequences on
- 4:00the internet from saying that as well, he should because it would
- 4:03be super selfish. As I talked about in my podcast,
- 4:06about masturbation is the junk food of married sex or whatever.
- 4:09I think that was the title. If you have an awesome sex life,
- 4:13you're doing a lot of shit. And then masturbating is just
- 4:16like a little force on of excitement on top.
- 4:18Great, you know how many couples I know doing that with in
- 4:21monogamy, after children and their 40s zero.
- 4:24So the ones that are doing it are too busy getting busy in
- 4:29order to listen to my podcast on marital self-help.
- 4:32So if your marriage is anything less than Sublime in the sex
- 4:38Department, either one of you using your sexual energy in a
- 4:43completely definitionally self Ishq Direction selfish puts.
- 4:48It is literally what else is masturbating?
- 4:51I mean, you not like building the pyramids here.
- 4:54It's a dopamine hit that is purely for one's self.
- 4:59Sure, think about yourself as much as you'd like, but don't do
- 5:04it too. Detriment of the relationship or
- 5:07the family and I, of course, they the family because guess
- 5:10what, your husband's part of your family, you know, it's not
- 5:13just the children. So if this woman decided to stop
- 5:18masturbating, just as I advise men, who are using porn every
- 5:22night or any born to stop using it.
- 5:25She would notice guess, what, if he was, the only game in town,
- 5:29she would notice an uptick in her desire.
- 5:31The body gets attuned to certain things.
- 5:33Her Sex Drive is now Now, purely for masturbation.
- 5:36She gets horny in the shower, if she stopped doing that, her sex
- 5:40drive wouldn't just go away. She would still want to have
- 5:45probably maybe a little bit less sex, but, you know what,
- 5:48possibly the same amount because that's what her body likes.
- 5:52And she would just be doing it with him.
- 5:54If if mr. Mason was no longer an option,
- 5:57they could think outside the box, perhaps since he does seem
- 5:59to be in the house when she's doing this, maybe he could come
- 6:03up, it doesn't. Very long, you know, for
- 6:06unfortunately for many couples and if you're masturbating in
- 6:09the shower, she's probably not in there for a half hour, so,
- 6:13whatever the Hell she's doing, she could probably be teaching
- 6:15him to do or doing with him and maybe it wouldn't be every
- 6:19morning. Maybe every other morning,
- 6:20maybe, you know, the kids are up or I don't know what the point
- 6:25is though. Think about how this would sound
- 6:27if a guy was saying it and then you'll see how truly selfish it
- 6:31is and it is not selfish in a cute way.
- 6:34Come get us. Self-care ritual doesn't make it
- 6:36cute. All it is, is taking away
- 6:39something from your spouse, which for many men is like super
- 6:43important and the main way that they express closeness and
- 6:46instead just literally jacking off and throwing it out the
- 6:51window, it would be similar to If a woman said to a man, I
- 6:54really want to do date night. I want to do, I want to go out
- 6:57to dinner and have a romantic dinner and he said, but I just
- 6:59don't get hungry at 6:00 and she's thinking, okay.
- 7:02Well, I mean, I guess I got to respect Bodily autonomy.
- 7:06Yeah. Right, that she would say it,
- 7:07but let's say she did. I'll just got to respect his
- 7:09bodily autonomy. He doesn't get hungry at 6:00
- 7:12poor man. Okay, I guess we'll never go out
- 7:15to a dinner date and then she sees him at 7:00 stuffing, his
- 7:19face with leftovers in the fridge.
- 7:21She be like, what the hell happened?
- 7:23He'd be like, oh, I just guess I'm Board of Ed eating of eating
- 7:26at 6:00. What the fuck?
- 7:28Come on. That's some bullshit, right?
- 7:30And she would be within her rights to be extremely upset,
- 7:32the person has a need to eat. Eat.
- 7:34But he's just deciding to do it at a slightly different time.
- 7:37That doesn't involve. Her takes a hell of a lot less
- 7:40effort and sauce is definitionally selfish.
- 7:45So if you are somebody who thinks that your masturbation is
- 7:50not doing anything bad for the relationship and for the sex
- 7:52life in the relationship and it's in this other bucket
- 7:55somehow, I don't know what this other bucket is, where she's
- 7:58saying that these two things don't intersect, this is like
- 8:00there's some meme that's where like a kid said something like,
- 8:03oh, I'm not hungry. For dinner.
- 8:05But I have a cookie shaped hole in my stomach that could, you
- 8:08know, where I could eat a cookie?
- 8:10So, like I have like two different spaces, one for
- 8:12dinner, that one's not hungry, but the one for the cookie is
- 8:15hungry. This isn't real.
- 8:18You know, as any adult knows, you know, yet that is not real,
- 8:22like you're either hungry or you're not hungry.
- 8:24In that case the kid is not hungry, but also would like a
- 8:27cookie that is what's going on here.
- 8:30Like she, she's saying that there's two separate sources
- 8:34It's of things. There isn't, there's one sex
- 8:37drive. So back in the children and the
- 8:39cookie example, if the kid was hungry, he dinner right?
- 8:44Like to eat a cookie instead of dinner, but if he was real
- 8:46hungry, he'd eat dinner. If the Woman's real hungry in
- 8:50this metaphorical sense, she is going to have sex.
- 8:54But she's not allowing herself to get real hungry because she
- 8:57snacking before dinner. It's just not right, you know,
- 9:01it's not right, and it's not fair and it's not nice.
- 9:05And if a man was doing it, it would be very bad.
- 9:07So if you say Yeah, well, my husband does jack off all the
- 9:10time. Make him listen to the damn
- 9:12podcast. Well, I mean good luck right?
- 9:14Because you probably won't but the point is it would be just as
- 9:18bad. So if you have a husband is
- 9:19jerking off all the time and your sex life isn't good. 100%.
- 9:23Bring him into a couples counseling. 1000% is totally
- 9:26selfish to be taking his, his, our sex drive and squandering
- 9:31it. It isn't extra.
- 9:33There's no Separate category for masturbation.
- 9:36It's like does your body want to have a sexual encounter or not?
- 9:42You can certainly have a million reasons that masturbation is
- 9:45easier but it's not self-care. It is sex, it is in the bucket
- 9:51of sex and as I have said, many times sex is self-care.
- 9:55Sex needs to be thought of as self-care.
- 9:58But there's not just one form of lazy sex, that self-care.
- 10:02It's either. You want sex or you don't want
- 10:04sex. And if God is gracing you with
- 10:06sexual desire, as a monogamous woman squandering, it on your
- 10:13own self in the absence of a fulfilling sex life and
- 10:17something that offends your husband and then thinking that
- 10:21he shouldn't take it personally, I would love, love, love to see
- 10:25how the advice giver would respond if she wanted to have
- 10:30sex in her husband said, no. And then the next morning he's
- 10:32jerking off in the shower. I would Love to see her.
- 10:35Consider it a morning, self-care ritual.
- 10:39That's what men need to start calling jerking off.
- 10:41That would be fucking hilarious, a morning self-care ritual, see
- 10:45how well that goes. So anyway, the point is always
- 10:50to point out like, tremendous and consistencies and double
- 10:54standards, and I'm not saying I am big on the Sexes, are not
- 10:58equal, I do not in any way. Think that this woman supposed
- 11:01to have as high, a sex drive as your husband.
- 11:03I don't think that In any way, it's supposed to be easy for her
- 11:07husband necessarily to get her off.
- 11:09I mean, certainly not easy because she won't even allow him
- 11:11next to her. But, you know, it's certainly he
- 11:14should definitely learn 100% how to get her off that may take him
- 11:18longer than it. Would take a woman in the
- 11:20reverse situation, men and women are different, they have
- 11:22different biology, different sex drives, different sex drives in
- 11:24monogamy a thousand times. Men and women are different.
- 11:27However, selfish does not discriminate.
- 11:30Selfish is a gender, you know, it is all gender.
- 11:34It is anybody who takes something and makes it like only
- 11:38for themselves. When it's supposed to be
- 11:40something for the couple or ideally would be could even be
- 11:45something for that you enjoy doing with your partner, you
- 11:49don't even necessarily have to consider it a sacrifice in a
- 11:52best-case scenario. She could think, oh, that's
- 11:55great. I feel horny in the morning.
- 11:57Okay I'm going to use that. And tell my husband that he has
- 12:01to put the kids in front of the iPad for 10 minutes in the
- 12:03morning. Because instead of masturbating,
- 12:06I just found a way to use my morning sex drive for, you know,
- 12:11both of us. So we can both get close and
- 12:13enjoy our lives more, but she doesn't say that.
- 12:17Instead she reaches out into an echo chamber for somebody that's
- 12:19going to say something that she already knows what the answer is
- 12:22going to be. She didn't write that question
- 12:24into Men's Health you know, she wrote into scary Mommy.
- 12:27So I don't know. The whole thing was just very
- 12:29irritating. So I work all day with people
- 12:32who are trying their hardest to To really in couples counseling
- 12:36to really empathize with one another's position, almost makes
- 12:39me forget in the regular World outside of people who are
- 12:43motivated enough to come into couples counseling.
- 12:46This selfishness that abounds, you know, and this certainly
- 12:49isn't just women not even at all.
- 12:51It's 100% crosses, gender. It is no gender.
- 12:54It is gender-free, it's selfishness and it's an another
- 12:58podcast. I call it, the cult of the
- 13:00individual or the cult of personal preferences, or
- 13:03whatever. The I said, where people put the
- 13:06individual over the relationship and there is no better example
- 13:10than this. So, you know, I'm just going to
- 13:13make this one free episode. I was going to make it
- 13:15subscriber, but everybody ought to hear this stuff.
- 13:17So I'm just going to put it out there in the universe and my
- 13:22next one will be subscriber. All right.
- 13:24Um, hopefully you guys found this interesting and if you take
- 13:28anything from it, it should be. If you have any sex drive at
- 13:31all, that's a woman. Thank thank God first.
- 13:34Stright or whoever you believe in that gave it to you because
- 13:37many women have zero and then try to use that to bond with
- 13:42your partner, he doesn't give a shit if you want to have sex at
- 13:453 a.m. 3 p.m. you know whatever most men are going to make it
- 13:51happen. If you say, this is the type
- 13:53time of day that I want to have sex in today's telecommuting
- 13:56Society, I believe he should at least be given a chance to make
- 14:00it happen and if you say he can't get me off, well then you
- 14:03need to refer to all of my Podcast where you're supposed to
- 14:06train him, how to get you off. And if that's uncomfortable and
- 14:09awkward quesarasara, it's a couple of, you know, days of
- 14:13work in, you know, in a worst-case scenario and and then
- 14:17and then he can learn, you know, I mean, he does have a job, he's
- 14:21a mammal. Mammals can learn repetitive
- 14:23motion. I mean, you know, like it's not
- 14:25going to be the worst thing in the world and it's something you
- 14:28should have done a long time ago, really if you weren't so
- 14:30conflict avoidant, and if he is to sulci too, To be trained to
- 14:35get you off and he won't make it work.
- 14:37When you are actually horny to be the to be home or whatever,
- 14:41then go masturbate in the shower, have my blessing, but at
- 14:45least give him the opportunity to make use of your sex drive if
- 14:51you have one. All right, so that was that.
- 14:53And please, please do follow and love will not follow subscribe.
- 15:00The next one, will definitely be subscriber.
- 15:02This one was supposed to be but I just Just too irritated about
- 15:05this article that I'm now going to look to you in the
- 15:07descriptions. I'll talk to you all soon.