Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / Happy Customers, Happy Career: The Power of Satisfaction
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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the show. Today we're still on the series
- 0:05about how sales skills can help with personal growth and
- 0:08development. And today we're going to be
- 0:10looking at customer satisfaction, customer
- 0:13satisfaction skills and how that can help you build a career and
- 0:17how that can assist in your personal development.
- 0:19Now First off, we have to define what customer satisfaction is.
- 0:23Of course, that's hard to define.
- 0:25But from a traditional sales and business development
- 0:28perspective, there are two elements that we should be
- 0:31looking at when we're trying to figure out the customer
- 0:33satisfaction equation. So the first thing we're going
- 0:36to look at is, is the customer happy?
- 0:39And the second thing we're going to be looking at is, was the
- 0:42brand promise of the product or the service achieved or was it
- 0:46met now is the customer happy? That is the much more subjective
- 0:49part of the equation. It's the feel good equation or
- 0:53trying to figure out if the customer had pleasant
- 0:55experiences, if they had a pleasant user experience.
- 0:59And these sorts of things are easy to tell.
- 1:02You're able to pick up on the feel good vibes if you're having
- 1:05a conversation with someone over the phone or you're having a
- 1:07conversation with someone in person.
- 1:10You're not going to get a good sense of this if you use e-mail.
- 1:13Because e-mail is flat, it's formal, it's official and you
- 1:17get no nuance in in personal expression.
- 1:21Of course, That's one of the reasons why I keep hopping back
- 1:23to the whole communication hierarchy.
- 1:26Now about the brand promise. If the brand promise of the
- 1:30product or service was met, sometimes it can be a much more
- 1:33objective thing to filter through depending on the product
- 1:37or the service that we're looking at.
- 1:39Now, if you remember when I started off this this current
- 1:44season, I was the example that I came up with was for the father
- 1:49of a bride who goes to the market because he wants to buy a
- 1:51cow for the wedding and whether he's looking at local cows or
- 1:57imported booze of cows from South Africa.
- 1:59Now for those of you who've been listening to the last four or
- 2:01five episodes, you know what it is that I'm talking about.
- 2:03If this is your first time of listening to the episode, then
- 2:05when you're done listening with this, then skip back until you
- 2:08get to the first episode in this current narrative arc and you
- 2:12get caught up to speed. So now in this case, where the
- 2:16father of the bride bought the cow or I think option two that
- 2:21we came up with was 7 goats. So whether he buys one cow or
- 2:24seven goats, if you call him back for the customer
- 2:27satisfaction conversation, whether the the brand promises
- 2:32achieved is a relatively straightforward affair.
- 2:35So was it able to serve the crowd or not?
- 2:40Yeah. So that's the conversation
- 2:41basically that one would be having.
- 2:43So in this case, it's a lot easier to figure out and if
- 2:46you're an architect, because I think we also came up with an
- 2:48architect example, then part of the promise being met
- 2:54conversation would be whether the building was able to be
- 2:57erected within the budgetary scope that you guys planned for.
- 3:00So do people love the design that is the happiness part of it
- 3:06And then it was it able to be built within cost.
- 3:10You know those will be some of the elements that will be the
- 3:14brand, will be the part of the brand promise whether that was
- 3:18met. So as you can see this part of
- 3:21it is kind of easy but it is something that we can figure out
- 3:25quite easily by having conversations with people having
- 3:28frank conversations. When I say frank I mean open
- 3:31converse honest conversations then open-ended conversations
- 3:35and other focused conversations and question LED conversations.
- 3:39Now again for those of you who this been listening for a while,
- 3:42you know what this means if this is your first time listening to
- 3:44the show. Basically when I say Frank, I
- 3:46mean honest. When I say open-ended, I mean
- 3:49the conversation doesn't have. I mean you have a fair idea of
- 3:53what the agenda is, but you're keeping it nice and loose so
- 3:58that the conversation can flow to the left or flow to the right
- 4:01depending on where the customer or potential client is heading
- 4:04and the kind of things that you need to learn.
- 4:07Now when I say the conversation has to be other focused, what I
- 4:09mean is that you should be focusing more on the other
- 4:13person, their own opinion, their own feedback, their own
- 4:17thoughts, their own opinions. And because of that it has to be
- 4:20question LED. You can come in making
- 4:23statements, you have to come in and start asking the person
- 4:25questions and the typical questions that I advocate that
- 4:29are the easiest to remember at this stage are the West
- 4:32questions who, what, when, why, how, OK how is not AW question
- 4:38but you you get the point. Now, I'm going to refer to
- 4:42something that I've mentioned in the previous podcasts.
- 4:45That's the hierarchy of communications.
- 4:46And I'm going to bring it up again because we're talking
- 4:49about having conversations with people.
- 4:51We're talking about having Frank open-ended, other focused and
- 4:56question LED communications. So how should we handle those
- 5:00communications? And that's where the hierarchy
- 5:02of communications come in. And OK, well, for those of you
- 5:09who've been listening from the Git, you know that for me, #1 on
- 5:13the hierarchy is face to face. Now, the reason why face to face
- 5:16communications are the best, if you can manage that is because
- 5:20in face to face communications, where I'm over at the client's
- 5:23house, the client is in your office, you guys are the studio,
- 5:27you guys are the field, you guys are the site.
- 5:29You get the whole picture or you guys are sitting across the
- 5:32table. You have more elements of
- 5:34communication there. You're going to be able to pick
- 5:36up on verbal cues, body language, tone.
- 5:39There's going to be room for nuance and expression, you know?
- 5:41Did she say that smiling? Did she say it with the with a
- 5:45blank face? Did he say with an eyebrow
- 5:48raised? Did he say it as he was biting
- 5:50on his viral? I mean, you never know.
- 5:51You can pick up all kinds of things.
- 5:53You can pick up enthusiasm, lack of enthusiasm, disinterest,
- 5:57anger. Yes, you can pick up anger,
- 5:59especially anger of the passive aggressive sort where somebody
- 6:02might be saying the right things, but you can see that
- 6:04they're using passive aggressive language, sorry, body language.
- 6:07And so maybe there's something that they haven't said.
- 6:10So that's why face to face is the best, because you're going
- 6:13to be able to get the fullest range of communications
- 6:16possible. Now the second is over the
- 6:18phone. This is the second most
- 6:21commutative because body language is lost.
- 6:23You can't see what's going on, but you can pick up on tone and
- 6:26you can pick up on some elements of nuance.
- 6:29It's hard to describe which actually can hear a smile over
- 6:34the phone. And sometimes you can hear when
- 6:36somebody's pissed off over the phone even though you're not
- 6:39looking at them. So this is the reason why our
- 6:41phone is best. Now video, I guess some people
- 6:45would say video should be better because for video betting,
- 6:48you're getting both the visual and you're getting both the
- 6:51auditory, the sound, the auditory cues.
- 6:54Well, for now it's not there yet because not everybody is
- 6:57comfortable on video, because some people show up on video and
- 7:00get kind of stilted when they're self-conscious.
- 7:03But if you get on video, at least you'll be able to tell the
- 7:07difference between somebody saying it was OK when they mean
- 7:11everything was 100% and when they say it was okay.
- 7:15But what they mean is the experience was bearable, It was
- 7:17possible, it was tolerable, it was just there, it was meh, you
- 7:21know. So you'll be able to tell that
- 7:22difference over on video then SMS or WhatsApp.
- 7:28That is also good because if, well these days anyway,
- 7:33traditions might change later on.
- 7:35But right now if you're sending somebody an SMS or a WhatsApp,
- 7:38if you're in somebody's inbox, then you guys have achieved a
- 7:40certain level of personal rapport.
- 7:43And then of course there's emojis and gifts and things like
- 7:46that that allow for a wider range of expression.
- 7:50Also, I just said GIF, I'm not sure if it's GIFs or GIFs, I'm
- 7:53not sure how they are pronounced.
- 7:55Then at the very bottom is e-mail.
- 7:59For me, e-mail is at the bottom because it is the least
- 8:01personal. It is more formal, at least in
- 8:03this part of the world. In Nigeria, e-mail is more
- 8:06formal, It's official, so it leaves very little room for
- 8:09nuance and tone. Now, why bother about this whole
- 8:13thing of the communications hierarchy?
- 8:15We have to bother because we're trying to figure out what people
- 8:18really mean when they say things like it was OK or I was happy or
- 8:23you did good. You're trying to figure out what
- 8:25do they really mean and the extent to which they feel
- 8:31approbation or so. Is it approbation?
- 8:33I'll be this approbation. I can't remember.
- 8:34But you get the whole point when they try to say it was good or
- 8:37when they try to say it was bad. You're not just trying to figure
- 8:39out is this a pleasant experience or not, but how
- 8:42pleasant was the experience or how nasty was the experience.
- 8:46That's what it is that we're trying to find out.
- 8:49And it is going to be different depending on whether the
- 8:51conversation was had face to face or if it was done over the
- 8:55e-mail. So ideally face to face, but it
- 8:59doesn't always work. So you try and it's not.
- 9:04It doesn't always work for you to be face to face with all your
- 9:07clients, but well anyway you get the gist.
- 9:10If you're doing it e-mail every single time.
- 9:14I think you can do better than that.
- 9:16At least try and make it an SMS, WhatsApp conversation.
- 9:18Much more personal where people feel relaxed and they can say
- 9:21stuff or get on the phone if you can't meet face to face.
- 9:24But anyway, you get the gist. So yeah, so put yourself in the
- 9:29best context possible to try and figure out what people mean.
- 9:33That is what this whole thing about the communications
- 9:36hierarchy is about. Put yourself in the best context
- 9:39possible. Now the reason why all of this
- 9:41is important? Customer success, Customer
- 9:44satisfaction. Did you achieve the brand
- 9:46promise and all of this? It is important because, number
- 9:49one, it helps for product or service development.
- 9:52It helps us to refine our product, refine our service back
- 9:57to the wedding photographer example for instance.
- 9:59These conversations will help you refine and improve your
- 10:02photography style. It might also help you improve
- 10:08Okay. While I said Okay, well, that's
- 10:09product development, how good your product is.
- 10:12Then it can help you refine or help you improve service
- 10:15development as well. How do you interact with people?
- 10:18How do you handle conversations? What's the business process
- 10:20like? So that's the reason why all
- 10:22this feedback is important. Then all this also helps you to
- 10:25identify your ICP. That's your ideal customer
- 10:28profile, your ideal customer avatar.
- 10:31The people that you work best with, your most satisfied
- 10:34customers, people that should be spending the most time with.
- 10:38Yeah, it helps you to refine that because from all these
- 10:41conversations you might start getting a picture in your head
- 10:43that as an architect, when I'm working with people aged 60 and
- 10:48older from the southern part of the country and who are high net
- 10:53worth individuals, it's a pleasant experience or it's a
- 10:56bad experience. But then if I'm working with
- 10:58younger people, younger millennials, between the age of
- 11:0230 to 40 or whatever, I mean, yeah, I trust you guys get the
- 11:08point from having these conversations.
- 11:10You start seeing patterns arise. And when I'm talking with this
- 11:13kind of people, this is what I'm hearing.
- 11:15When I'm talking with those kinds of people, that is what
- 11:17I'm hearing. So perhaps I should be chasing
- 11:20category of people. I should be chasing people in
- 11:23groups, BCD instead of groups of people in EF and G Now how do
- 11:29all these skills? Sorry.
- 11:31One moment. OK.
- 11:34Yeah. Notification was coming in.
- 11:35I had to mute that. OK.
- 11:37So how do all these skills help with your career development,
- 11:41these kinds of skills trying to figure out if people are happy
- 11:45or not. Are people satisfied?
- 11:46Were you guys on point where you're on goal?
- 11:49It's important because at the office you need to figure out
- 11:52which initiatives were successful or which initiatives
- 11:54were on target. It's the same with the church
- 11:57activities. The church department has a
- 12:00program. They're working on this, they're
- 12:02working on that. And you need to figure out what
- 12:05was successful, what was on point, what was in near miss,
- 12:08what could you have done better? It's the same with the village
- 12:11community activities. You know when you travel home
- 12:13from the village in December and the same when you guys have the
- 12:16political caucus meetings, you're trying to be able to
- 12:19figure out if the stakeholders in the office or the
- 12:21stakeholders in the village or the church or in the political
- 12:24caucus, you're trying to figure out was everybody happy?
- 12:27They're trying to figure out, did we deliver on the promise of
- 12:30the meeting, the promise of the program, the promise of the
- 12:33event, the promise of the program, of the project.
- 12:37So how are we going to be able to figure it out?
- 12:40We're going to do so using all the principles that we've spoken
- 12:44about so far. First off, we have to talk to
- 12:47all the stakeholders involved. The the conversations have, to
- 12:50be frank, they have to be open-ended.
- 12:52They have to follow people where wherever they're willing to say
- 12:55to talk. Because you might think that
- 12:57this aspect of the program or that aspect of the agenda was
- 13:00not a problem. But if the person that you're
- 13:02talking to thinks that it was a problem, then follow the
- 13:04conversation in an open and frank manner and try and see
- 13:07which way the conversation leads.
- 13:09So open-ended conversations focused on them, the person that
- 13:13you're talking to and then it has to be question LED.
- 13:18Also beer in, Bear in mind the communications hierarchy and
- 13:24principles that we have discussed.
- 13:26So in fact, if you're talking to the political caucus members, I
- 13:29would say that you should do everything possible to make sure
- 13:32the meeting is face to face. And that is why politicians
- 13:35always meet face to face, even if it's in the late hours of the
- 13:39night. Because face to face is best.
- 13:41You're there, there's no bullshitting.
- 13:43You're able to figure out what is this person saying, where
- 13:46does this person stand now? How is this going to help in
- 13:48your career and your personal personal development and career
- 13:52development? It's going to help because it
- 13:54will help you to become a person of influence and it will help
- 13:58you build a better reputation. And of course you're
- 14:00demonstrating, demonstrating your credibility and your
- 14:04competence so that when you're ready to advance your career or
- 14:07to advance your atmosphere of influence, you should be able to
- 14:11do so relatively easy or easier than if you are not to do
- 14:16anything at all. If you're just remain an
- 14:18ordinary member of the house who does nothing, who just attends
- 14:20the meetings and sits down and eats the small chops and takes
- 14:24the Fanta and then stands up and then leaves.
- 14:27So that's all for today. I wanted to make sure that we
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- 14:54time and attention. I'll catch you guys at the next
- 14:56episode.