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E305: Understanding Emotional Eating, Shame & Food Addiction Recovery: Guest Jennifer Schrappe · Adult Child of Dysfunction

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  So
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  before
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  we
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  even
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  get
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  started
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  today,
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  I
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  wanted
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  to
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  just
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  kind
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  of
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  talk
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  to
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  you
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  real
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  quickly
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  because
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  we've
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  had
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  a
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  couple
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  people
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  on
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  the
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  podcast
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  recently
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  and
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  talk
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  about
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  how
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  success.
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  Just
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  because
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  you
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  look
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  successful
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  and
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  you
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  look
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  like
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  you're
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  doing
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  everything
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  on
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  the
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  outside
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  does
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  not
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  mean
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  you
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  are
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  happy
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  and
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  you
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  are
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  not
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  struggling
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  on
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  the
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  inside
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  because
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  the,
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  the
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  high
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  achieving,
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  it
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  doesn't
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  always
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  feel
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  high
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  achieving.
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  Right.
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  So
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  if
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  there's
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  a
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  shame,
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  if
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  there's
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  shame,
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  if
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  there's
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  addiction
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  patterns,
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  if
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  there's
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  old
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  childhood
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  trauma
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  that
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  you're
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  going
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  through,
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  this
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  is
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  all
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  those
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  survival
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  responses.
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  And
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  so
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  success
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  does
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  not
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  automatically
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  heal
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  what
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  was
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  formed
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  as
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  survival,
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  honestly.
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  So
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  this
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  is
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  the
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  work
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  that
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  I
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  do
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  every
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  day
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  helping
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  people
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  uncover
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  those
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  conscious
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  patterns,
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  regulate
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  nervous
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  systems
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  and
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  build
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  lives
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  that
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  feel
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  aligned,
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  not
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  just
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  improved.
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  So
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  today
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  we
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  have
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  with
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  us
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  Jennifer
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  Strappe,
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  lpccs.
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  And
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  I'll
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  let
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  her
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  explain
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  that
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  she
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  has
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  been
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  a
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  therapist
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  for
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  over
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  20
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  years.
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  She
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  is
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  the
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  founder
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  and
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  director
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  of
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  Chrysalis
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  Enterprises,
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  a
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  counseling
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  practice
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  in
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  Columbus,
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  Ohio.
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  She
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  is
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  also
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  a
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  professional
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  speaker
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  and
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  is
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  developing
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  a
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  program
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  for
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  entrepreneurs
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  who
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  are
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  in
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  recovery
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  from
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  food
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  addiction.
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  A
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  significant
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  part
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  of
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  Jennifer's
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  story
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  has
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  been
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  a
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  lifelong
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  struggle
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  with
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  compulsive
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  overeating.
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  Navigating
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  cycles
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  of
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  recovery,
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  shame
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  and
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  resilience
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  while
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  building,
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  building
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  a
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  business,
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  helping
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  others
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  heal.
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  Welcome,
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  Jennifer.
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  Thank
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  you,
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  Tammy.
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  It's
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  great
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  to
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  be
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  here.
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  Yeah.
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  No,
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  it
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  seems
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  like
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  the
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  subjects
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  keep
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  coming
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  around
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  as
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  people
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  that
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  are
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  having
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  successful
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  businesses
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  or,
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  you
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  know,
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  entrepreneurs
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  and
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  they
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  look
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  so
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  together
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  and
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  happy
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  on
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  the
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  outside,
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  but
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  underneath
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  there's
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  still
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  a
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  lot
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  going
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  on
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  and
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  it
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  just
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  seems
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  to
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  be
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  a
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  constant
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  theme.
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  I'm
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  getting
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  over
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  the
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  last
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  couple
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  weeks,
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  so
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  I
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  know
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  you
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  struggled
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  a
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  lot
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  in
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  your
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  childhood
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  and
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  it
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  was
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  with.
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  Was
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  it
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  always
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  with
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  overeating?
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  Yep.
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  That
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  became
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  my
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  best
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  friend.
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  It
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  always
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  made
• 2:05
  the
• 2:05
  problems
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  feel
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  like
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  they
• 2:08
  were
• 2:08
  going
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  away.
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  It
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  always
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  made
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  me
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  feel
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  better.
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  So
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  was
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  it.
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  I
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  mean,
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  I'm
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  just.
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  I
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  don't
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  know
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  much
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  about
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  you.
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  It
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  was.
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  I
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  was
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  the
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  oldest
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  kid
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  in
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  our
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  family
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  and
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  our
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  parents
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  marriage
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  was
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  not
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  doing
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  well
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  and
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  I
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  somehow
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  interpreted
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  that
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  as
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  being
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  my
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  fault
• 2:29
  because
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  I
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  wasn't
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  perfect
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  all
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  the
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  time.
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  And
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  so
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  obviously
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  I
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  had
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  done
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  something
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  wrong
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  and
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  now
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  I
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  know
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  that
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  to
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  be
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  complete
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  hogwash.
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  But
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  you
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  know,
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  at
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  that
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  time,
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  a
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  seven
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  year
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  old,
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  eight
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  year
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  old
• 2:46
  kid,
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  it
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  seemed
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  completely
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  reasonable.
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  And
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  so
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  then
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  they,
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  they
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  split
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  up
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  and
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  for
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  my
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  mom
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  and
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  siblings
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  and
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  me,
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  that
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  changed
• 2:57
  everything
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  and
• 2:59
  it
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  set
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  us
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  on
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  a
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  completely
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  different
• 3:02
  course
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  in
• 3:03
  life.
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  We
• 3:04
  moved
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  across
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  country
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  so
• 3:07
  that
• 3:07
  all
• 3:07
  changed
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  and
• 3:09
  I
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  Wasn't
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  seeing
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  my
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  father
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  anymore
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  and
• 3:13
  all
• 3:14
  the
• 3:14
  stuff.
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  And
• 3:15
  so
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  I
• 3:16
  withdrew
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  and
• 3:17
  went
• 3:18
  inside
• 3:18
  myself
• 3:19
  and
• 3:19
  felt
• 3:19
  like
• 3:20
  I
• 3:20
  had
• 3:20
  to
• 3:20
  be
• 3:20
  the
• 3:21
  second
• 3:22
  adult
• 3:22
  in
• 3:23
  the
• 3:23
  household
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  to
• 3:24
  help
• 3:24
  my
• 3:25
  mom
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  and
• 3:25
  to
• 3:26
  take
• 3:26
  care
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  of
• 3:26
  my
• 3:26
  younger
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  siblings.
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  And
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  as
• 3:28
  far
• 3:28
  as
• 3:28
  my
• 3:29
  own
• 3:29
  pain,
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  the
• 3:30
  food
• 3:31
  was
• 3:31
  there.
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  Yeah.
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  Yep.
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  I
• 3:33
  can
• 3:33
  remember,
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  honestly,
• 3:34
  it's,
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  and
• 3:35
  it's,
• 3:35
  it's
• 3:36
  just,
• 3:36
  it's
• 3:36
  that
• 3:36
  dopamine
• 3:37
  hit,
• 3:37
  it's
• 3:37
  that
• 3:38
  comfort.
• 3:38
  I
• 3:38
  can
• 3:39
  remember
• 3:39
  when
• 3:39
  my
• 3:39
  parents
• 3:39
  used
• 3:40
  to
• 3:40
  fight,
• 3:40
  I
• 3:40
  used
• 3:40
  to
• 3:40
  grab
• 3:41
  a
• 3:41
  sleeve
• 3:41
  of
• 3:41
  Chips
• 3:42
  Ahoy
• 3:42
  or
• 3:42
  Oreo
• 3:43
  cookies
• 3:43
  and
• 3:43
  I
• 3:43
  would
• 3:43
  go
• 3:43
  hide
• 3:44
  under
• 3:44
  the
• 3:44
  drainage
• 3:45
  ditch
• 3:46
  and,
• 3:47
  and,
• 3:47
  and
• 3:47
  eat
• 3:47
  the
• 3:48
  whole
• 3:48
  sleeve
• 3:48
  because
• 3:48
  I
• 3:48
  figured
• 3:49
  it
• 3:49
  was
• 3:49
  about,
• 3:49
  that
• 3:49
  was
• 3:50
  about
• 3:50
  the
• 3:50
  timing
• 3:50
  that
• 3:51
  if
• 3:51
  I
• 3:51
  ate
• 3:51
  that
• 3:51
  I
• 3:52
  could
• 3:52
  just
• 3:52
  relax,
• 3:53
  I
• 3:53
  could
• 3:53
  calm
• 3:53
  down,
• 3:54
  I
• 3:54
  could,
• 3:54
  you
• 3:55
  know,
• 3:55
  rest.
• 3:55
  I
• 3:56
  could
• 3:56
  be
• 3:56
  safe.
• 3:57
  And
• 3:57
  then
• 3:57
  it
• 3:57
  was
• 3:58
  good
• 3:58
  timing
• 3:58
  to
• 3:58
  go
• 3:59
  back
• 3:59
  several
• 3:59
  years.
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  Well,
• 4:00
  like
• 4:00
  40
• 4:01
  years
• 4:01
  later
• 4:01
  when
• 4:01
  they
• 4:02
  were
• 4:02
  like,
• 4:02
  you
• 4:02
  know,
• 4:02
  you
• 4:02
  have
• 4:03
  a,
• 4:03
  a
• 4:03
  sugar
• 4:04
  problem,
• 4:04
  like
• 4:05
  you're
• 4:05
  a
• 4:05
  1C.
• 4:06
  And,
• 4:06
  and
• 4:07
  I
• 4:07
  was
• 4:07
  like,
• 4:07
  oh,
• 4:07
  no.
• 4:08
  I
• 4:08
  was
• 4:08
  like,
• 4:08
  okay,
• 4:08
  so
• 4:09
  think
• 4:09
  Tammy.
• 4:09
  Okay,
• 4:10
  it's
• 4:10
  time
• 4:10
  to
• 4:11
  let
• 4:11
  go
• 4:11
  of
• 4:11
  the
• 4:11
  six
• 4:12
  chocolate
• 4:12
  chip
• 4:12
  cookies
• 4:13
  and
• 4:13
  glass
• 4:13
  of
• 4:13
  milk
• 4:13
  every
• 4:14
  night
• 4:14
  before
• 4:14
  we
• 4:14
  go
• 4:14
  to
• 4:14
  bed.
• 4:17
  That
• 4:17
  just,
• 4:18
  it
• 4:18
  became
• 4:18
  my
• 4:18
  comfort
• 4:19
  food.
• 4:20
  And
• 4:20
  it
• 4:21
  is
• 4:21
  comforting.
• 4:22
  And
• 4:22
  it
• 4:22
  won't
• 4:22
  say
• 4:23
  no,
• 4:23
  it
• 4:23
  won't
• 4:24
  reject
• 4:24
  you.
• 4:25
  These
• 4:27
  hyper
• 4:28
  processed
• 4:28
  foods,
• 4:29
  which
• 4:29
  of
• 4:29
  course
• 4:29
  are
• 4:29
  the
• 4:30
  ones
• 4:30
  that
• 4:30
  in
• 4:31
  my
• 4:31
  experience,
• 4:32
  I
• 4:32
  go
• 4:32
  for.
• 4:33
  I'm
• 4:33
  not
• 4:33
  going
• 4:33
  to
• 4:33
  binge
• 4:34
  out
• 4:34
  on
• 4:34
  broccoli.
• 4:35
  So
• 4:35
  the,
• 4:35
  the
• 4:36
  hyper
• 4:36
  processed
• 4:37
  foods,
• 4:37
  I
• 4:38
  believe,
• 4:38
  have
• 4:38
  been
• 4:39
  engineered
• 4:39
  to
• 4:40
  have
• 4:40
  that
• 4:40
  great,
• 4:41
  you
• 4:41
  know,
• 4:41
  mouth
• 4:42
  feel
• 4:42
  and
• 4:43
  to
• 4:43
  have
• 4:44
  that
• 4:44
  great
• 4:44
  rush
• 4:45
  and
• 4:45
  whatever
• 4:46
  it
• 4:46
  is
• 4:46
  that
• 4:46
  they
• 4:46
  put
• 4:46
  into
• 4:47
  those
• 4:47
  products.
• 4:49
  And
• 4:50
  so
• 4:50
  that
• 4:51
  helps
• 4:52
  to
• 4:52
  perpetuate
• 4:53
  the
• 4:53
  issue,
• 4:53
  perpetuate
• 4:54
  the
• 4:54
  patterns.
• 4:56
  And
• 4:56
  it,
• 4:56
  in
• 4:57
  those,
• 4:57
  at
• 4:57
  least
• 4:57
  in
• 4:57
  those
• 4:58
  first
• 4:58
  few
• 4:58
  moments
• 4:59
  where
• 4:59
  the,
• 4:59
  the
• 5:00
  binge
• 5:00
  starts,
• 5:01
  man,
• 5:02
  it
• 5:02
  sure
• 5:03
  does
• 5:03
  bring
• 5:03
  relief.
• 5:04
  Who
• 5:04
  doesn't
• 5:04
  want
• 5:04
  relief?
• 5:05
  Especially
• 5:06
  in
• 5:07
  those
• 5:07
  moments,
• 5:07
  especially
• 5:07
  when
• 5:08
  you
• 5:08
  were
• 5:08
  suffering
• 5:09
  what
• 5:09
  you
• 5:09
  were
• 5:09
  suffering
• 5:10
  as
• 5:10
  a
• 5:10
  child
• 5:10
  and
• 5:11
  what
• 5:11
  I
• 5:11
  was
• 5:11
  suffering
• 5:12
  too.
• 5:13
  Well,
• 5:13
  at
• 5:13
  the
• 5:13
  end
• 5:13
  of
• 5:14
  the
• 5:14
  day,
• 5:14
  you're
• 5:14
  going
• 5:14
  to
• 5:14
  do
• 5:14
  anything
• 5:15
  to
• 5:15
  yourself.
• 5:16
  And
• 5:16
  it's,
• 5:16
  you
• 5:17
  know,
• 5:17
  it's
• 5:17
  funny
• 5:18
  that
• 5:18
  now
• 5:18
  there
• 5:18
  is
• 5:18
  so
• 5:19
  much
• 5:19
  more
• 5:19
  awareness
• 5:19
  around
• 5:20
  it
• 5:20
  because
• 5:20
  back
• 5:21
  then,
• 5:22
  you
• 5:22
  know,
• 5:22
  if
• 5:22
  you
• 5:23
  were,
• 5:23
  I
• 5:23
  mean,
• 5:23
  I'm
• 5:23
  sure
• 5:23
  you
• 5:24
  gained
• 5:24
  weight
• 5:24
  pretty
• 5:24
  quickly
• 5:25
  as
• 5:25
  a
• 5:25
  child
• 5:25
  then
• 5:26
  because
• 5:26
  you
• 5:26
  were
• 5:26
  eating
• 5:27
  the
• 5:27
  wrong
• 5:27
  foods,
• 5:27
  grabbing
• 5:28
  whatever
• 5:28
  you
• 5:28
  could
• 5:28
  grab.
• 5:29
  Like
• 5:29
  you
• 5:29
  said,
• 5:29
  you're
• 5:29
  not
• 5:30
  going
• 5:30
  home
• 5:30
  and
• 5:30
  eating
• 5:31
  a
• 5:31
  head
• 5:31
  of
• 5:31
  lettuce
• 5:31
  with
• 5:32
  some
• 5:33
  balsamic
• 5:33
  vinegar
• 5:34
  on
• 5:34
  it.
• 5:34
  When
• 5:34
  you're
• 5:34
  stressed
• 5:35
  out,
• 5:35
  you're
• 5:35
  grabbed.
• 5:37
  You're
• 5:37
  grabbing
• 5:37
  whatever
• 5:38
  you
• 5:38
  can
• 5:38
  grab.
• 5:38
  And
• 5:39
  it's
• 5:39
  always
• 5:39
  the
• 5:40
  potato
• 5:40
  chips.
• 5:40
  It's
• 5:41
  it
• 5:41
  is,
• 5:41
  it's
• 5:41
  the
• 5:41
  things
• 5:42
  that
• 5:42
  give
• 5:42
  your
• 5:43
  physiological
• 5:44
  reward
• 5:44
  system
• 5:45
  that
• 5:45
  hit
• 5:46
  and
• 5:47
  then
• 5:47
  it
• 5:47
  becomes
• 5:48
  an
• 5:48
  addiction.
• 5:48
  They
• 5:49
  might
• 5:49
  judge
• 5:49
  you
• 5:49
  if
• 5:49
  you
• 5:50
  are
• 5:50
  overweight,
• 5:51
  but
• 5:51
  they're
• 5:52
  not
• 5:52
  going
• 5:52
  to
• 5:52
  judge
• 5:52
  you
• 5:53
  if
• 5:53
  you're
• 5:53
  eating
• 5:53
  a
• 5:53
  cookie.
• 5:54
  Where
• 5:54
  they're
• 5:54
  gonna
• 5:55
  judge
• 5:55
  you
• 5:55
  if
• 5:55
  you're
• 5:57
  happy.
• 5:58
  Comfort
• 5:59
  thing
• 5:59
  is
• 5:59
  alcohol
• 6:00
  or
• 6:00
  drugs
• 6:00
  or
• 6:01
  something
• 6:01
  like
• 6:01
  that.
• 6:03
  Gotcha.
• 6:04
  You
• 6:04
  know
• 6:05
  what?
• 6:05
  I'm
• 6:05
  right.
• 6:05
  Yeah.
• 6:06
  The
• 6:06
  stigma,
• 6:06
  like
• 6:07
  people.
• 6:07
  If
• 6:07
  you're
• 6:07
  eating
• 6:07
  a
• 6:08
  cookie,
• 6:08
  people
• 6:08
  are
• 6:08
  not
• 6:08
  going
• 6:09
  to
• 6:09
  be
• 6:09
  like,
• 6:09
  look
• 6:09
  at
• 6:09
  her.
• 6:10
  But
• 6:10
  if
• 6:10
  you're
• 6:10
  in
• 6:10
  the
• 6:11
  middle
• 6:11
  of
• 6:11
  the
• 6:11
  day,
• 6:11
  you
• 6:11
  got
• 6:11
  a
• 6:12
  little
• 6:12
  shot
• 6:12
  glass
• 6:12
  in
• 6:13
  your
• 6:13
  pocketbook
• 6:13
  and
• 6:13
  you're
• 6:14
  doing
• 6:14
  a
• 6:14
  shot
• 6:14
  real
• 6:14
  quick.
• 6:15
  But
• 6:15
  honestly,
• 6:16
  it's
• 6:16
  feeding
• 6:17
  the
• 6:17
  same
• 6:17
  thing.
• 6:18
  Right.
• 6:19
  So,
• 6:20
  so
• 6:20
  talk
• 6:21
  about.
• 6:21
  Because
• 6:21
  I
• 6:21
  know
• 6:22
  you
• 6:22
  talk
• 6:22
  a
• 6:22
  lot
• 6:22
  about
• 6:23
  guilt
• 6:23
  and
• 6:23
  shame
• 6:23
  and
• 6:24
  you
• 6:24
  talk
• 6:24
  about
• 6:24
  that
• 6:24
  and
• 6:25
  bringing
• 6:25
  that
• 6:25
  kind
• 6:25
  of
• 6:26
  into
• 6:26
  your
• 6:26
  adulthood.
• 6:27
  What
• 6:27
  are
• 6:27
  some
• 6:27
  of
• 6:27
  the
• 6:28
  kind
• 6:28
  of
• 6:28
  mindset
• 6:29
  things
• 6:29
  you
• 6:29
  had
• 6:29
  to
• 6:30
  overcome
• 6:30
  from
• 6:31
  your
• 6:31
  childhood?
• 6:33
  That
• 6:34
  I
• 6:34
  was
• 6:35
  the
• 6:35
  worst,
• 6:36
  that
• 6:37
  I
• 6:37
  was
• 6:38
  worthless,
• 6:40
  that
• 6:40
  my
• 6:41
  weight
• 6:41
  defined
• 6:42
  me,
• 6:46
  that
• 6:46
  it's
• 6:47
  best
• 6:47
  to
• 6:50
  keep
• 6:50
  everybody
• 6:51
  at
• 6:51
  bay
• 6:53
  and
• 6:54
  just
• 6:54
  be
• 6:54
  on
• 6:54
  my
• 6:54
  own
• 6:55
  little
• 6:55
  island,
• 6:55
  so
• 6:55
  to
• 6:56
  speak.
• 6:58
  And
• 6:58
  it's,
• 6:58
  it's
• 6:59
  especially
• 6:59
  funny
• 7:00
  thinking
• 7:00
  about
• 7:00
  that
• 7:01
  considering
• 7:02
  that
• 7:02
  I'm
• 7:02
  married
• 7:03
  and
• 7:03
  I
• 7:03
  have
• 7:03
  children.
• 7:08
  And
• 7:08
  so
• 7:08
  it
• 7:09
  can
• 7:09
  be
• 7:09
  at
• 7:09
  times
• 7:10
  hard
• 7:10
  for
• 7:10
  me
• 7:10
  to
• 7:11
  reach
• 7:11
  out
• 7:11
  for
• 7:12
  help
• 7:12
  from
• 7:12
  them.
• 7:13
  And
• 7:13
  they're
• 7:13
  very
• 7:14
  loving
• 7:14
  and
• 7:14
  supportive
• 7:15
  and
• 7:15
  trustworthy.
• 7:15
  But
• 7:16
  still,
• 7:16
  I
• 7:16
  can
• 7:16
  have
• 7:17
  this,
• 7:17
  you
• 7:17
  know,
• 7:17
  island,
• 7:18
  you
• 7:18
  know,
• 7:18
  keep
• 7:18
  everybody
• 7:19
  at
• 7:19
  bay
• 7:19
  mentality
• 7:20
  sometimes
• 7:23
  that
• 7:23
  I
• 7:23
  was
• 7:23
  worth
• 7:24
  the
• 7:25
  time
• 7:26
  and
• 7:26
  attention
• 7:27
  it
• 7:27
  would
• 7:28
  take
• 7:28
  to
• 7:29
  overcome
• 7:29
  this.
• 7:31
  We
• 7:31
  need
• 7:31
  to
• 7:31
  be
• 7:32
  taking
• 7:32
  care
• 7:32
  of
• 7:32
  that
• 7:33
  and
• 7:33
  we
• 7:33
  need
• 7:33
  to
• 7:33
  take
• 7:33
  care
• 7:34
  of
• 7:34
  that
• 7:34
  person
• 7:34
  and
• 7:35
  we
• 7:35
  need
• 7:35
  to
• 7:35
  solve
• 7:36
  this
• 7:36
  problem.
• 7:36
  And
• 7:37
  you
• 7:37
  know,
• 7:37
  at
• 7:37
  the
• 7:38
  end
• 7:38
  of
• 7:38
  it
• 7:38
  all,
• 7:38
  once
• 7:39
  all
• 7:39
  that
• 7:39
  is
• 7:40
  resolved,
• 7:41
  then
• 7:41
  maybe
• 7:42
  I'll
• 7:42
  get
• 7:42
  to
• 7:42
  me.
• 7:43
  But
• 7:43
  all
• 7:43
  this
• 7:44
  other
• 7:44
  stuff
• 7:44
  has
• 7:44
  to
• 7:44
  be
• 7:45
  fixed
• 7:45
  first.
• 7:46
  Right?
• 7:46
  You
• 7:46
  can
• 7:47
  fix.
• 7:47
  It's
• 7:47
  like
• 7:48
  alcoholism.
• 7:49
  The
• 7:49
  alcohol
• 7:49
  is
• 7:50
  not
• 7:50
  the
• 7:50
  problem.
• 7:50
  The
• 7:51
  alcohol
• 7:51
  is
• 7:51
  the
• 7:52
  answer
• 7:52
  for
• 7:53
  those,
• 7:53
  for
• 7:53
  people
• 7:54
  that
• 7:54
  are
• 7:54
  suffering
• 7:54
  with
• 7:55
  that.
• 7:55
  It's.
• 7:55
  It's
• 7:56
  what's
• 7:56
  inside
• 7:56
  that's
• 7:57
  the
• 7:57
  problem.
• 7:57
  It's
• 7:57
  what
• 7:58
  the
• 7:58
  beliefs
• 7:58
  are
• 7:58
  that
• 7:59
  are
• 7:59
  keeping
• 7:59
  you
• 7:59
  to
• 8:00
  need
• 8:00
  to
• 8:00
  self
• 8:01
  soothe
• 8:01
  or
• 8:01
  self
• 8:02
  medicate
• 8:02
  or
• 8:02
  self
• 8:03
  eat,
• 8:04
  whatever,
• 8:05
  whatever
• 8:05
  it
• 8:05
  is,
• 8:06
  you
• 8:06
  know,
• 8:06
  but
• 8:08
  it's
• 8:08
  hard.
• 8:08
  So
• 8:08
  what
• 8:09
  are
• 8:09
  some
• 8:09
  of
• 8:09
  the
• 8:09
  steps
• 8:09
  that
• 8:10
  you
• 8:10
  did
• 8:10
  to
• 8:10
  do
• 8:10
  that?
• 8:15
  Some
• 8:15
  of
• 8:15
  the
• 8:15
  steps,
• 8:17
  gosh,
• 8:17
  it's
• 8:18
  been
• 8:18
  such
• 8:19
  a
• 8:19
  long
• 8:19
  process
• 8:20
  and
• 8:20
  I'm
• 8:20
  still
• 8:21
  figuring
• 8:21
  out
• 8:22
  pieces
• 8:22
  of
• 8:23
  it,
• 8:24
  but
• 8:24
  some
• 8:24
  of
• 8:24
  the
• 8:25
  steps
• 8:25
  were
• 8:26
  acknowledging
• 8:27
  that
• 8:27
  I
• 8:27
  couldn't
• 8:28
  fix
• 8:28
  it
• 8:28
  on
• 8:28
  my
• 8:28
  own,
• 8:30
  acknowledging
• 8:31
  that
• 8:31
  I
• 8:31
  needed
• 8:31
  something
• 8:32
  outside
• 8:32
  me,
• 8:33
  guidance,
• 8:34
  a
• 8:34
  program,
• 8:36
  support
• 8:36
  in
• 8:37
  that
• 8:37
  program.
• 8:38
  And
• 8:38
  I
• 8:38
  did
• 8:39
  try
• 8:39
  different
• 8:39
  weight
• 8:40
  Loss
• 8:40
  programs,
• 8:40
  programs
• 8:41
  with
• 8:41
  different
• 8:42
  levels
• 8:43
  of
• 8:43
  success.
• 8:45
  But
• 8:45
  the
• 8:46
  real
• 8:46
  issue
• 8:47
  was
• 8:47
  what
• 8:47
  was
• 8:48
  going
• 8:48
  on
• 8:48
  in
• 8:49
  here,
• 8:49
  right?
• 8:50
  What
• 8:50
  in
• 8:51
  here
• 8:53
  was
• 8:53
  driving
• 8:54
  me
• 8:54
  to
• 8:54
  the
• 8:55
  food.
• 8:56
  And
• 8:57
  so
• 8:57
  when
• 8:57
  I
• 8:58
  really
• 8:59
  started
• 8:59
  getting
• 9:00
  a
• 9:00
  good
• 9:01
  understanding
• 9:02
  of,
• 9:02
  of
• 9:03
  what
• 9:03
  all
• 9:04
  needed
• 9:04
  some
• 9:04
  attention,
• 9:05
  needed
• 9:05
  some
• 9:06
  loving
• 9:06
  care,
• 9:06
  needed
• 9:07
  some
• 9:07
  healing
• 9:08
  and
• 9:09
  like
• 9:09
  you
• 9:10
  said,
• 9:10
  you
• 9:10
  know,
• 9:10
  alcohol
• 9:11
  is
• 9:11
  a
• 9:11
  solution.
• 9:12
  Well,
• 9:12
  in
• 9:12
  my
• 9:12
  case,
• 9:13
  food
• 9:13
  is
• 9:13
  the
• 9:13
  solution.
• 9:14
  And
• 9:15
  so
• 9:15
  instead
• 9:16
  of
• 9:16
  berating
• 9:17
  myself
• 9:18
  for
• 9:18
  wanting
• 9:19
  relief
• 9:19
  in
• 9:20
  food,
• 9:20
  let's
• 9:21
  get
• 9:21
  curious
• 9:22
  and
• 9:22
  let's
• 9:23
  look
• 9:23
  at
• 9:25
  what
• 9:26
  feels
• 9:27
  so
• 9:27
  awful
• 9:28
  that
• 9:28
  it
• 9:29
  seems
• 9:29
  like
• 9:29
  food
• 9:30
  is
• 9:30
  the
• 9:30
  only
• 9:30
  fix,
• 9:31
  the
• 9:32
  only
• 9:32
  way
• 9:32
  to
• 9:33
  get
• 9:33
  some
• 9:33
  resolution.
• 9:36
  So
• 9:36
  relearning
• 9:37
  those
• 9:37
  patterns.
• 9:39
  And
• 9:39
  then
• 9:39
  for
• 9:40
  me
• 9:40
  what
• 9:40
  it
• 9:40
  really
• 9:41
  took
• 9:41
  was
• 9:44
  getting
• 9:45
  into
• 9:45
  the
• 9:46
  bright
• 9:46
  line
• 9:47
  eating
• 9:47
  program,
• 9:48
  which
• 9:49
  cuts
• 9:50
  out
• 9:50
  sugar,
• 9:51
  cuts
• 9:51
  out
• 9:51
  flour,
• 9:52
  wheel
• 9:53
  wheels.
• 9:55
  Meals
• 9:55
  are
• 9:55
  weighed
• 9:56
  and
• 9:56
  measured.
• 9:59
  So
• 9:59
  meals
• 10:00
  are
• 10:00
  weighed
• 10:01
  and
• 10:01
  measured.
• 10:02
  And
• 10:02
  for
• 10:02
  those
• 10:02
  who
• 10:03
  have
• 10:03
  a
• 10:03
  history
• 10:04
  of
• 10:04
  binging,
• 10:05
  you
• 10:05
  can
• 10:05
  add,
• 10:06
  you
• 10:06
  can
• 10:06
  kind
• 10:07
  distribute
• 10:07
  your
• 10:08
  food
• 10:08
  so
• 10:09
  that
• 10:09
  there
• 10:09
  are
• 10:09
  also
• 10:10
  some
• 10:10
  snacks
• 10:11
  in
• 10:11
  between
• 10:11
  the
• 10:11
  meals
• 10:12
  so
• 10:12
  that
• 10:12
  you
• 10:12
  can
• 10:13
  better
• 10:13
  avoid
• 10:14
  a
• 10:14
  binge.
• 10:15
  And
• 10:16
  those
• 10:16
  are
• 10:17
  weighed
• 10:17
  and
• 10:17
  measured
• 10:18
  too.
• 10:18
  And
• 10:19
  then
• 10:19
  in
• 10:19
  between
• 10:20
  meals
• 10:20
  and
• 10:20
  snacks
• 10:21
  it's
• 10:22
  water,
• 10:23
  it's
• 10:24
  non
• 10:25
  caloric
• 10:25
  drinks,
• 10:28
  and
• 10:28
  that
• 10:29
  is,
• 10:30
  that's
• 10:30
  the
• 10:30
  regimen.
• 10:31
  And
• 10:31
  it's
• 10:31
  set
• 10:32
  up
• 10:32
  that
• 10:32
  way
• 10:32
  because
• 10:33
  for
• 10:33
  somebody
• 10:34
  who
• 10:34
  is
• 10:34
  addicted
• 10:35
  to
• 10:35
  food,
• 10:35
  which
• 10:35
  I
• 10:36
  am
• 10:36
  for,
• 10:37
  for
• 10:37
  somebody
• 10:37
  who
• 10:37
  has
• 10:37
  a
• 10:38
  long
• 10:38
  history
• 10:38
  of
• 10:38
  binge
• 10:39
  eating,
• 10:39
  which
• 10:39
  I
• 10:39
  do,
• 10:41
  we
• 10:41
  need
• 10:41
  that
• 10:42
  kind
• 10:42
  of
• 10:42
  regimen.
• 10:43
  And
• 10:44
  it's
• 10:44
  not
• 10:44
  like
• 10:45
  the
• 10:45
  rules
• 10:45
  protect
• 10:46
  us,
• 10:46
  the
• 10:46
  rules
• 10:47
  protect
• 10:47
  a
• 10:47
  person
• 10:48
  like
• 10:48
  me.
• 10:48
  Those
• 10:48
  guidelines,
• 10:49
  that's
• 10:50
  why
• 10:50
  it's
• 10:50
  called
• 10:50
  bright
• 10:50
  line
• 10:50
  eating.
• 10:51
  Because
• 10:51
  a
• 10:51
  bright
• 10:51
  line
• 10:52
  is
• 10:52
  a
• 10:52
  line
• 10:53
  that
• 10:53
  you
• 10:53
  don't
• 10:53
  cross.
• 10:53
  I
• 10:54
  guess
• 10:54
  it's
• 10:54
  a
• 10:54
  legal
• 10:54
  term.
• 10:55
  And
• 10:55
  so
• 10:57
  it's
• 10:57
  these
• 10:58
  lines
• 10:58
  that
• 10:58
  you
• 10:59
  don't
• 10:59
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• 11:00
  out
• 11:00
  of
• 11:01
  because
• 11:02
  that's
• 11:03
  going
• 11:03
  to
• 11:03
  get
• 11:03
  you
• 11:03
  in
• 11:03
  danger.
• 11:05
  And
• 11:06
  so
• 11:08
  learning
• 11:08
  to
• 11:10
  work
• 11:10
  with
• 11:11
  professionals
• 11:12
  who
• 11:12
  can
• 11:12
  help
• 11:13
  to
• 11:13
  unpack
• 11:16
  what's
• 11:16
  driving
• 11:16
  these
• 11:17
  patterns
• 11:18
  and
• 11:18
  to
• 11:18
  come
• 11:19
  up
• 11:19
  with
• 11:19
  healthier
• 11:19
  patterns
• 11:20
  with
• 11:21
  self
• 11:22
  compassion.
• 11:23
  So
• 11:23
  not
• 11:24
  like
• 11:25
  you
• 11:25
  know,
• 11:26
  you
• 11:26
  must
• 11:26
  do
• 11:26
  this
• 11:27
  or
• 11:27
  you're
• 11:28
  the
• 11:28
  worst
• 11:28
  and
• 11:29
  you
• 11:29
  suck
• 11:30
  and
• 11:30
  all
• 11:30
  that.
• 11:30
  But
• 11:31
  instead,
• 11:31
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• 11:32
  what's
• 11:32
  going
• 11:32
  on
• 11:32
  here
• 11:33
  and
• 11:34
  what
• 11:34
  can
• 11:34
  we
• 11:34
  do
• 11:34
  about
• 11:35
  it
• 11:35
  compassionately,
• 11:36
  right?
• 11:37
  And
• 11:37
  just
• 11:37
  in
• 11:38
  general,
• 11:38
  when
• 11:39
  you
• 11:39
  look
• 11:39
  at
• 11:39
  things
• 11:39
  with
• 11:39
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• 11:40
  instead
• 11:41
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• 11:41
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• 11:41
  it's
• 11:42
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• 11:42
  to
• 11:42
  soften
• 11:42
  you
• 11:42
  by,
• 11:43
  by
• 11:43
  default,
• 11:44
  you
• 11:44
  know,
• 11:45
  if
• 11:45
  you
• 11:45
  can
• 11:45
  go
• 11:46
  to
• 11:46
  grab
• 11:46
  that
• 11:47
  and
• 11:47
  you
• 11:47
  want
• 11:47
  that
• 11:47
  cookie
• 11:48
  or
• 11:48
  you
• 11:48
  want
• 11:48
  that
• 11:49
  ice
• 11:49
  cream
• 11:49
  so
• 11:49
  bad
• 11:50
  and
• 11:50
  you
• 11:50
  know,
• 11:50
  and
• 11:50
  you're
• 11:51
  like,
• 11:51
  instead
• 11:51
  of
• 11:51
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• 11:51
  like,
• 11:51
  oh
• 11:52
  my
• 11:52
  God,
• 11:52
  Jennifer,
• 11:53
  why
• 11:53
  do
• 11:53
  I
• 11:53
  always
• 11:53
  do
• 11:54
  this?
• 11:55
  You
• 11:55
  know,
• 11:55
  just
• 11:55
  be
• 11:55
  like
• 11:56
  what
• 11:56
  happened
• 11:56
  today?
• 11:58
  So
• 11:58
  why
• 11:58
  don't
• 11:58
  I
• 11:59
  grab,
• 11:59
  I
• 11:59
  mean,
• 11:59
  I
• 11:59
  don't
• 12:00
  know
• 12:00
  how
• 12:00
  you
• 12:00
  do
• 12:01
  it.
• 12:01
  But
• 12:01
  I
• 12:01
  know
• 12:01
  with
• 12:02
  like
• 12:02
  the
• 12:02
  whole
• 12:03
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• 12:03
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• 12:03
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• 12:03
  it,
• 12:03
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• 12:03
  drinking
• 12:04
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• 12:04
  stuff,
• 12:04
  it
• 12:04
  was
• 12:05
  like,
• 12:05
  why?
• 12:06
  What
• 12:06
  am
• 12:06
  I
• 12:06
  doing?
• 12:06
  Like,
• 12:07
  let
• 12:07
  me
• 12:07
  think.
• 12:07
  Let
• 12:08
  me
• 12:08
  think
• 12:08
  through
• 12:08
  this.
• 12:36
  And
• 12:36
  while
• 12:37
  I'm
• 12:37
  thinking
• 12:37
  through
• 12:37
  this,
• 12:37
  let
• 12:37
  me
• 12:38
  grab
• 12:38
  a
• 12:38
  glass
• 12:38
  of
• 12:38
  water,
• 12:40
  you
• 12:40
  know,
• 12:41
  and.
• 12:41
  And
• 12:41
  really.
• 12:42
  But
• 12:42
  being
• 12:42
  curious
• 12:43
  just
• 12:43
  does.
• 12:44
  It
• 12:44
  just
• 12:44
  softens
• 12:45
  the
• 12:45
  whole
• 12:45
  situation
• 12:45
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• 12:46
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• 12:46
  not
• 12:46
  anger,
• 12:47
  it's.
• 12:47
  And
• 12:47
  because
• 12:47
  that.
• 12:48
  You
• 12:48
  get
• 12:48
  into
• 12:49
  that
• 12:49
  guilt
• 12:49
  and
• 12:49
  that.
• 12:50
  That
• 12:50
  shame
• 12:51
  spiral,
• 12:51
  I
• 12:52
  call
• 12:52
  it,
• 12:52
  you
• 12:52
  know,
• 12:52
  like.
• 12:53
  Yep.
• 12:54
  And
• 12:54
  I
• 12:54
  know
• 12:54
  my,
• 12:55
  you
• 12:55
  know,
• 12:55
  my
• 12:55
  sister
• 12:56
  struggled.
• 12:57
  She
• 12:58
  struggles
• 12:58
  with.
• 12:58
  Still
• 12:59
  to
• 12:59
  this
• 12:59
  day,
• 12:59
  struggles
• 13:00
  with
• 13:00
  binge
• 13:00
  eating.
• 13:00
  And
• 13:00
  we
• 13:01
  don't
• 13:01
  talk
• 13:01
  about
• 13:01
  it
• 13:01
  so
• 13:02
  much,
• 13:02
  but
• 13:02
  she.
• 13:03
  I
• 13:03
  don't
• 13:03
  know
• 13:03
  what
• 13:03
  program
• 13:04
  she
• 13:04
  was
• 13:04
  on
• 13:04
  or
• 13:05
  whatever,
• 13:05
  but
• 13:05
  I.
• 13:05
  When
• 13:05
  I
• 13:05
  was
• 13:05
  at
• 13:06
  her
• 13:06
  house,
• 13:06
  it
• 13:06
  was
• 13:06
  very
• 13:07
  specific,
• 13:07
  like,
• 13:08
  thing.
• 13:08
  Everything
• 13:08
  was
• 13:09
  portioned
• 13:11
  because
• 13:11
  she
• 13:11
  said,
• 13:12
  even
• 13:12
  if
• 13:12
  it
• 13:12
  was
• 13:12
  yogurt,
• 13:13
  which
• 13:13
  is
• 13:13
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• 13:13
  for
• 13:14
  you,
• 13:14
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• 13:14
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• 13:14
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• 13:14
  lot
• 13:15
  of
• 13:15
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• 13:15
  she's
• 13:15
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• 13:16
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• 13:16
  I
• 13:16
  bought
• 13:16
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• 13:16
  yogurt
• 13:17
  in
• 13:17
  a
• 13:17
  thing
• 13:17
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• 13:17
  big,
• 13:18
  I
• 13:18
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• 13:18
  eat
• 13:19
  the
• 13:19
  whole
• 13:19
  thing,
• 13:19
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• 13:20
  though
• 13:20
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• 13:20
  was
• 13:20
  something
• 13:20
  that
• 13:21
  was
• 13:21
  good
• 13:21
  for
• 13:22
  me,
• 13:22
  you
• 13:22
  know?
• 13:23
  And
• 13:23
  so
• 13:23
  she
• 13:24
  portioned
• 13:24
  everything.
• 13:24
  That's
• 13:25
  literally
• 13:25
  one
• 13:25
  of
• 13:26
  the
• 13:26
  first
• 13:26
  things
• 13:26
  she
• 13:26
  did
• 13:27
  is
• 13:27
  it
• 13:27
  was
• 13:27
  like,
• 13:28
  kind
• 13:28
  of
• 13:28
  like,
• 13:28
  I
• 13:28
  call
• 13:28
  it
• 13:29
  the
• 13:29
  nip
• 13:29
  it
• 13:29
  in
• 13:29
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• 13:29
  bud.
• 13:30
  Like,
• 13:30
  as
• 13:30
  soon
• 13:30
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• 13:30
  you
• 13:30
  hear
• 13:30
  that
• 13:31
  inner
• 13:31
  critic
• 13:31
  or
• 13:32
  that,
• 13:32
  that
• 13:33
  shame
• 13:33
  voice
• 13:34
  being
• 13:34
  like,
• 13:34
  what's
• 13:35
  wrong
• 13:35
  with
• 13:35
  you?
• 13:35
  Which
• 13:35
  is.
• 13:36
  I
• 13:36
  think
• 13:36
  that
• 13:36
  sentence,
• 13:37
  what's
• 13:37
  wrong
• 13:37
  with
• 13:37
  you?
• 13:38
  Should
• 13:38
  be
• 13:38
  taken
• 13:38
  out
• 13:38
  of
• 13:39
  the
• 13:39
  vocabulary
• 13:40
  to
• 13:40
  begin
• 13:40
  with.
• 13:40
  Do
• 13:41
  you
• 13:41
  have
• 13:41
  any
• 13:41
  suggestions
• 13:42
  for
• 13:43
  people
• 13:43
  that
• 13:43
  find
• 13:43
  themselves?
• 13:45
  Because
• 13:47
  I'm
• 13:47
  sure
• 13:47
  there's
• 13:48
  a
• 13:48
  lot
• 13:48
  of
• 13:48
  people
• 13:48
  out
• 13:48
  there
• 13:49
  that
• 13:49
  struggle,
• 13:49
  especially
• 13:50
  with
• 13:50
  the
• 13:50
  food,
• 13:51
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• 13:51
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• 13:52
  is.
• 13:52
  It's
• 13:53
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• 13:54
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• 13:55
  It's
• 13:56
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• 13:56
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• 13:56
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• 13:56
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• 13:58
  It's
• 13:58
  like
• 13:59
  I
• 13:59
  said,
• 13:59
  people
• 13:59
  don't
• 14:00
  necessarily
• 14:01
  in
• 14:01
  the
• 14:01
  beginning
• 14:01
  especially
• 14:02
  judge
• 14:02
  you
• 14:03
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• 14:03
  you're
• 14:03
  just
• 14:03
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• 14:04
  a
• 14:04
  little
• 14:04
  too
• 14:04
  much
• 14:05
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• 14:05
  you
• 14:05
  know,
• 14:05
  you
• 14:06
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• 14:06
  under
• 14:06
  the
• 14:07
  table
• 14:07
  or
• 14:07
  whatever
• 14:07
  it
• 14:08
  is.
• 14:08
  What
• 14:09
  are
• 14:09
  suggestions?
• 14:10
  Like,
• 14:10
  if
• 14:10
  you
• 14:11
  thought,
• 14:11
  God,
• 14:12
  I
• 14:12
  really
• 14:12
  need
• 14:13
  this
• 14:13
  cookie,
• 14:13
  this
• 14:13
  ice
• 14:14
  cream,
• 14:14
  what
• 14:15
  would
• 14:15
  be
• 14:15
  your
• 14:15
  thought
• 14:15
  pattern
• 14:16
  going
• 14:16
  forward
• 14:17
  with
• 14:18
  that,.
• 14:20
  If
• 14:20
  I'm
• 14:21
  having
• 14:21
  those
• 14:21
  thoughts?
• 14:22
  Well,
• 14:24
  ideally
• 14:25
  I
• 14:26
  would
• 14:28
  be
• 14:28
  working
• 14:29
  through,
• 14:29
  because
• 14:30
  additional
• 14:30
  step
• 14:31
  that
• 14:31
  I
• 14:31
  have
• 14:31
  taken
• 14:31
  is
• 14:32
  to
• 14:32
  get
• 14:33
  involved
• 14:33
  in
• 14:33
  Overeaters
• 14:34
  Anonymous,
• 14:34
  where
• 14:35
  I'm
• 14:35
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• 14:35
  into
• 14:35
  phone
• 14:36
  meetings,
• 14:37
  getting
• 14:37
  a
• 14:37
  sponsor
• 14:38
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• 14:38
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• 14:39
  through
• 14:39
  the
• 14:39
  steps.
• 14:39
  And
• 14:40
  of
• 14:40
  course,
• 14:40
  OA
• 14:41
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• 14:42
  tons
• 14:42
  of
• 14:43
  materials
• 14:44
  online
• 14:45
  and
• 14:46
  there
• 14:46
  are
• 14:46
  books
• 14:47
  you
• 14:47
  can
• 14:47
  get,
• 14:48
  and
• 14:48
  there
• 14:48
  are
• 14:49
  phone
• 14:49
  meetings,
• 14:50
  meetings
• 14:51
  over
• 14:51
  video,
• 14:52
  in
• 14:52
  person
• 14:52
  meetings.
• 14:53
  There
• 14:53
  are
• 14:54
  so
• 14:54
  many
• 14:54
  ways
• 14:55
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• 14:55
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• 14:55
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• 14:56
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• 14:56
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• 14:57
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• 14:58
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• 14:58
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• 14:59
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• 14:59
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• 14:59
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• 14:59
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• 14:59
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• 15:00
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• 15:00
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• 15:00
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• 15:00
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• 15:01
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• 15:01
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• 15:01
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• 15:01
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• 15:02
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• 15:02
  Compassionate,
• 15:03
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• 15:03
  place.
• 15:05
  And
• 15:05
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• 15:06
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• 15:07
  those
• 15:07
  moments,
• 15:08
  ideally
• 15:09
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• 15:09
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• 15:10
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• 15:10
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• 15:10
  working
• 15:11
  a
• 15:11
  strong
• 15:12
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• 15:12
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• 15:12
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• 15:13
  program
• 15:14
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• 15:14
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• 15:15
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• 15:15
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• 15:16
  have
• 15:16
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• 15:17
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• 15:17
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• 15:18
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• 15:19
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• 15:19
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• 15:19
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• 15:20
  Where
• 15:20
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• 15:21
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• 15:21
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• 15:21
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• 15:21
  I've
• 15:21
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• 15:21
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• 15:22
  thought.
• 15:22
  It's
• 15:22
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• 15:23
  you
• 15:23
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• 15:23
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• 15:23
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• 15:23
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• 15:24
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• 15:24
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• 15:24
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• 15:24
  start
• 15:24
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• 15:25
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• 15:25
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• 15:26
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• 15:26
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• 15:26
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• 15:26
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• 15:26
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• 15:27
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• 15:27
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• 15:27
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• 15:27
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• 15:27
  eat.
• 15:28
  So
• 15:29
  it,
• 15:29
  it
• 15:30
  empowers
• 15:30
  a
• 15:30
  person
• 15:31
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• 15:31
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• 15:32
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• 15:32
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• 15:32
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• 15:33
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• 15:33
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• 15:33
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• 15:34
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• 15:34
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• 15:36
  Right.
• 15:37
  So
• 15:37
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• 15:37
  a
• 15:38
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• 15:38
  aspect
• 15:38
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• 15:39
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• 15:39
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• 15:39
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• 15:39
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• 15:40
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• 15:41
  to
• 15:41
  remember
• 15:42
  is
• 15:42
  that
• 15:43
  whatever
• 15:43
  unhealthy
• 15:44
  coping
• 15:45
  mechanism
• 15:46
  we
• 15:47
  may
• 15:48
  have,
• 15:49
  whatever
• 15:49
  critical
• 15:50
  voice
• 15:51
  or
• 15:52
  imposter
• 15:52
  syndrome
• 15:53
  or
• 15:54
  shame
• 15:54
  that
• 15:55
  we
• 15:55
  may
• 15:55
  be
• 15:55
  experiencing,
• 15:57
  in
• 15:58
  a
• 15:58
  twisted
• 15:59
  way
• 15:59
  or
• 15:59
  another,
• 16:00
  it's
• 16:01
  trying
• 16:01
  to
• 16:02
  achieve
• 16:03
  something
• 16:03
  good
• 16:03
  for
• 16:04
  us.
• 16:05
  The
• 16:05
  inner
• 16:05
  critic
• 16:06
  is
• 16:06
  often
• 16:07
  trying
• 16:07
  to
• 16:08
  achieve
• 16:09
  self
• 16:10
  perfection
• 16:10
  by
• 16:11
  reminding
• 16:11
  us
• 16:11
  of
• 16:12
  all
• 16:12
  the
• 16:12
  things
• 16:13
  that
• 16:13
  are,
• 16:14
  that
• 16:14
  need
• 16:14
  to
• 16:14
  be
• 16:15
  fixed
• 16:15
  so
• 16:16
  that
• 16:16
  we
• 16:16
  fix
• 16:16
  them
• 16:17
  and
• 16:17
  then
• 16:17
  we'll
• 16:18
  be
• 16:18
  perfect.
• 16:18
  Well,
• 16:18
  I
• 16:19
  mean,
• 16:19
  at
• 16:19
  the
• 16:19
  end
• 16:19
  of
• 16:19
  the
• 16:19
  day,
• 16:19
  it
• 16:20
  is
• 16:20
  trying
• 16:20
  to
• 16:20
  protect
• 16:20
  us
• 16:21
  because
• 16:21
  it's
• 16:21
  our
• 16:21
  subconscious
• 16:22
  programming.
• 16:22
  It's,
• 16:23
  it's
• 16:23
  the
• 16:24
  thing
• 16:24
  that
• 16:24
  when
• 16:24
  we
• 16:24
  were
• 16:25
  seven
• 16:25
  years
• 16:25
  old
• 16:25
  and
• 16:25
  we
• 16:26
  were
• 16:26
  being
• 16:26
  bullied,
• 16:27
  you
• 16:28
  know,
• 16:28
  they,
• 16:28
  our
• 16:29
  brain
• 16:29
  said,
• 16:30
  okay,
• 16:30
  don't
• 16:30
  go
• 16:30
  out
• 16:30
  in
• 16:31
  public,
• 16:31
  don't
• 16:31
  be
• 16:31
  seen
• 16:32
  in
• 16:32
  big
• 16:32
  groups,
• 16:33
  don't
• 16:33
  do
• 16:33
  this,
• 16:33
  don't
• 16:33
  do
• 16:33
  that,
• 16:34
  because
• 16:34
  it
• 16:35
  will
• 16:35
  protect
• 16:35
  you.
• 16:36
  And,
• 16:36
  but
• 16:36
  now
• 16:36
  it's
• 16:37
  like,
• 16:37
  okay,
• 16:37
  now
• 16:37
  we
• 16:38
  have
• 16:38
  to,
• 16:38
  we
• 16:38
  have
• 16:38
  to
• 16:39
  move
• 16:39
  forward
• 16:39
  and
• 16:39
  we
• 16:39
  have
• 16:40
  to
• 16:40
  move
• 16:40
  out
• 16:40
  of
• 16:40
  those,
• 16:41
  those
• 16:41
  patterns
• 16:42
  and
• 16:42
  those
• 16:42
  protective
• 16:42
  mindsets.
• 16:43
  So
• 16:44
  talk
• 16:44
  about
• 16:44
  when
• 16:44
  you
• 16:44
  started
• 16:45
  your
• 16:45
  business,
• 16:45
  because
• 16:46
  you
• 16:46
  did
• 16:46
  say
• 16:46
  there
• 16:46
  was
• 16:47
  a
• 16:47
  lot
• 16:47
  of
• 16:47
  shame
• 16:48
  wrapped
• 16:48
  up
• 16:48
  in
• 16:49
  what
• 16:49
  was
• 16:49
  going
• 16:49
  on
• 16:50
  with
• 16:50
  you.
• 16:51
  What
• 16:51
  were
• 16:51
  some
• 16:51
  of
• 16:51
  the,
• 16:52
  you
• 16:52
  know,
• 16:52
  having
• 16:52
  a
• 16:52
  food
• 16:53
  addiction?
• 16:53
  What
• 16:53
  were
• 16:53
  some
• 16:53
  of
• 16:54
  the
• 16:54
  setbacks
• 16:55
  in.
• 16:56
  Business
• 16:57
  when
• 16:57
  the
• 16:58
  stress
• 16:58
  would
• 16:59
  come?
• 16:59
  Food
• 17:00
  was
• 17:00
  so
• 17:00
  often
• 17:01
  my
• 17:01
  coping
• 17:02
  mechanism.
• 17:03
  And
• 17:04
  I
• 17:04
  could
• 17:04
  be
• 17:04
  getting
• 17:05
  that
• 17:05
  obsession
• 17:05
  with
• 17:05
  a
• 17:06
  client
• 17:06
  who
• 17:06
  is
• 17:06
  talking
• 17:07
  about,
• 17:07
  you
• 17:08
  know,
• 17:08
  the
• 17:08
  unhealthy
• 17:09
  ways
• 17:09
  that
• 17:09
  he
• 17:10
  or
• 17:10
  she
• 17:10
  deals
• 17:11
  with
• 17:11
  stress.
• 17:11
  And
• 17:12
  maybe
• 17:12
  that
• 17:13
  included
• 17:13
  something
• 17:15
  in
• 17:15
  the
• 17:15
  addiction
• 17:16
  realm.
• 17:16
  And
• 17:16
  I
• 17:16
  would
• 17:16
  be
• 17:17
  counseling
• 17:17
  that
• 17:17
  client
• 17:18
  and
• 17:19
  that
• 17:19
  client
• 17:19
  would
• 17:19
  leave
• 17:20
  and
• 17:20
  then
• 17:20
  I
• 17:20
  would
• 17:20
  get
• 17:20
  worked
• 17:21
  up
• 17:21
  about
• 17:21
  something
• 17:21
  instead
• 17:22
  of
• 17:22
  start
• 17:22
  stuffing
• 17:23
  my
• 17:23
  face.
• 17:24
  Yeah,
• 17:24
  we're
• 17:25
  our
• 17:25
  own
• 17:25
  worst
• 17:25
  clients,
• 17:26
  aren't
• 17:26
  we?
• 17:26
  Oh,
• 17:28
  for
• 17:28
  sure,
• 17:29
  for
• 17:29
  sure.
• 17:30
  And
• 17:31
  so
• 17:31
  I
• 17:31
  noticed
• 17:32
  that
• 17:32
  as
• 17:32
  the
• 17:33
  business
• 17:33
  grew,
• 17:34
  as
• 17:35
  things
• 17:35
  got
• 17:36
  more
• 17:36
  complex,
• 17:37
  then
• 17:38
  of
• 17:38
  course
• 17:38
  the
• 17:39
  stress
• 17:39
  level
• 17:39
  rises,
• 17:40
  the,
• 17:40
  the
• 17:41
  responsibilities
• 17:42
  rise.
• 17:42
  Of
• 17:43
  course,
• 17:43
  that's
• 17:43
  natural.
• 17:45
  But
• 17:45
  the
• 17:46
  coping
• 17:46
  mechanisms
• 17:47
  which
• 17:48
  had
• 17:48
  not
• 17:49
  been
• 17:49
  realigned
• 17:50
  into
• 17:51
  something
• 17:51
  healthy
• 17:52
  was,
• 17:53
  were
• 17:53
  also
• 17:54
  continuing
• 17:55
  and
• 17:56
  worsening.
• 17:57
  And
• 17:58
  under
• 17:58
  a
• 17:58
  lot
• 17:58
  of
• 17:59
  that
• 17:59
  was
• 18:00
  this
• 18:02
  shame
• 18:02
  based
• 18:03
  imposter
• 18:03
  syndrome
• 18:06
  that
• 18:06
  you're
• 18:07
  telling
• 18:07
  me
• 18:08
  that
• 18:08
  I
• 18:08
  didn't
• 18:08
  deserve
• 18:09
  to
• 18:09
  have
• 18:10
  a
• 18:10
  thriving
• 18:10
  business.
• 18:11
  The
• 18:12
  best
• 18:12
  I
• 18:12
  could
• 18:12
  hope
• 18:13
  for
• 18:13
  would
• 18:13
  be
• 18:13
  one
• 18:14
  that
• 18:14
  was
• 18:14
  just
• 18:14
  kind
• 18:14
  of
• 18:15
  skating
• 18:16
  along
• 18:16
  the
• 18:17
  edge
• 18:19
  from
• 18:19
  day
• 18:19
  to.
• 18:20
  Day.
• 18:22
  In
• 18:22
  danger
• 18:23
  of
• 18:23
  completely
• 18:24
  imploding,
• 18:25
  which
• 18:26
  it
• 18:26
  never
• 18:26
  has
• 18:27
  been.
• 18:28
  But
• 18:29
  that's
• 18:29
  what
• 18:29
  this
• 18:29
  imposter
• 18:30
  syndrome
• 18:31
  part
• 18:31
  would
• 18:31
  say.
• 18:33
  And
• 18:33
  that
• 18:34
  at
• 18:34
  best,
• 18:35
  at
• 18:36
  best,
• 18:36
  I
• 18:37
  am
• 18:37
  getting
• 18:37
  my
• 18:38
  bills
• 18:38
  paid
• 18:39
  with
• 18:39
  maybe
• 18:40
  a
• 18:40
  little
• 18:40
  bit
• 18:40
  left
• 18:41
  over,
• 18:41
  but
• 18:41
  don't
• 18:42
  count
• 18:42
  on
• 18:42
  that
• 18:42
  for
• 18:43
  long.
• 18:44
  And
• 18:45
  being
• 18:45
  in
• 18:45
  that.
• 18:45
  And
• 18:45
  I
• 18:45
  see
• 18:46
  so
• 18:46
  many
• 18:47
  people
• 18:47
  in
• 18:47
  that
• 18:47
  thing
• 18:48
  because
• 18:48
  what's
• 18:48
  the
• 18:49
  underlying
• 18:49
  message?
• 18:50
  You're
• 18:51
  not
• 18:51
  good
• 18:51
  enough.
• 18:52
  You
• 18:52
  don't
• 18:52
  deserve
• 18:52
  enough.
• 18:53
  Don't
• 18:53
  deserve
• 18:54
  it.
• 18:54
  Yeah,
• 18:54
  you're
• 18:55
  just
• 18:55
  not,
• 18:55
  you're
• 18:55
  not
• 18:55
  worthy.
• 18:56
  And
• 18:56
  you
• 18:56
  said
• 18:57
  being
• 18:57
  an
• 18:57
  entrepreneur,
• 18:58
  as
• 18:59
  your
• 18:59
  business
• 18:59
  grows,
• 19:00
  as
• 19:00
  you
• 19:00
  become
• 19:00
  more
• 19:00
  successful,
• 19:01
  the
• 19:01
  stress
• 19:02
  level
• 19:02
  goes
• 19:03
  up
• 19:03
  in
• 19:03
  different
• 19:03
  ways.
• 19:04
  It
• 19:04
  comes
• 19:04
  at
• 19:04
  you
• 19:05
  different
• 19:05
  ways.
• 19:05
  You
• 19:06
  know,
• 19:06
  it's
• 19:06
  really
• 19:06
  having
• 19:07
  to
• 19:07
  have
• 19:08
  that
• 19:08
  underlying
• 19:08
  belief
• 19:09
  that
• 19:09
  I
• 19:10
  do
• 19:10
  deserve
• 19:10
  to
• 19:11
  thrive
• 19:11
  and
• 19:11
  I
• 19:12
  do,
• 19:12
  you
• 19:12
  know,
• 19:13
  so
• 19:13
  that
• 19:13
  I,
• 19:14
  when
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  stress
• 19:14
  things
• 19:15
  come,
• 19:15
  it's
• 19:15
  like,
• 19:15
  let's
• 19:16
  handle
• 19:16
  this
• 19:16
  so
• 19:17
  we
• 19:17
  can
• 19:17
  move
• 19:17
  up,
• 19:18
  you
• 19:18
  know,
• 19:19
  not,
• 19:19
  let's
• 19:20
  do
• 19:20
  whatever
• 19:21
  we
• 19:21
  have
• 19:21
  that's
• 19:21
  right
• 19:22
  to
• 19:22
  survive
• 19:23
  this.
• 19:24
  And
• 19:24
  you
• 19:24
  know,
• 19:24
  something
• 19:25
  interesting
• 19:26
  and
• 19:26
  this,
• 19:27
  I
• 19:27
  mean,
• 19:27
  this
• 19:28
  is
• 19:28
  interesting,
• 19:28
  but
• 19:29
  it
• 19:29
  also
• 19:30
  fits.
• 19:31
  I
• 19:32
  just
• 19:32
  have
• 19:32
  this
• 19:33
  automatic
• 19:33
  assumption
• 19:34
  that
• 19:34
  any
• 19:35
  other
• 19:35
  business
• 19:35
  owner
• 19:36
  I
• 19:36
  meet
• 19:37
  that
• 19:38
  their
• 19:38
  business
• 19:39
  is
• 19:39
  doing
• 19:39
  great
• 19:41
  and
• 19:41
  of
• 19:42
  all
• 19:42
  these
• 19:42
  people
• 19:42
  I'm
• 19:43
  getting
• 19:43
  to
• 19:43
  know,
• 19:44
  mine
• 19:44
  is
• 19:44
  the
• 19:44
  only
• 19:45
  one
• 19:45
  that's
• 19:46
  struggling.
• 19:47
  You're
• 19:48
  not
• 19:48
  the
• 19:48
  only
• 19:48
  one
• 19:49
  in
• 19:49
  the
• 19:49
  times
• 19:50
  of
• 19:50
  struggle.
• 19:51
  And
• 19:51
  then
• 19:52
  that
• 19:52
  translates.
• 19:53
  I
• 19:53
  mean,
• 19:53
  it's
• 19:54
  still
• 19:54
  part
• 19:54
  of
• 19:54
  the,
• 19:55
  that
• 19:55
  isolating,
• 19:56
  shame
• 19:56
  based
• 19:57
  thinking.
• 19:57
  And
• 19:58
  I
• 19:58
  share
• 19:58
  this
• 19:58
  next
• 19:59
  one
• 19:59
  to
• 19:59
  make
• 19:59
  you
• 20:00
  laugh.
• 20:00
  I
• 20:01
  have
• 20:01
  this
• 20:02
  assumption.
• 20:03
  And
• 20:03
  when
• 20:03
  I
• 20:04
  noticed
• 20:04
  it,
• 20:04
  I
• 20:04
  thought,
• 20:05
  wow,
• 20:05
  that's
• 20:05
  kind
• 20:05
  of
• 20:06
  insane
• 20:06
  that
• 20:07
  this
• 20:07
  particular
• 20:08
  OA
• 20:08
  meeting
• 20:08
  that
• 20:09
  I
• 20:09
  call
• 20:09
  into
• 20:09
  this
• 20:10
  phone
• 20:10
  meeting,
• 20:10
  so
• 20:11
  obviously
• 20:11
  we're
• 20:11
  not
• 20:11
  seeing
• 20:12
  each
• 20:12
  other,
• 20:12
  but
• 20:13
  I
• 20:14
  was
• 20:14
  falling
• 20:14
  under
• 20:15
  this
• 20:15
  assumption
• 20:15
  that
• 20:15
  I
• 20:16
  was
• 20:16
  the
• 20:16
  only
• 20:16
  overweight
• 20:17
  person
• 20:17
  on
• 20:17
  that
• 20:17
  call,
• 20:18
  that
• 20:18
  everybody
• 20:19
  else
• 20:20
  had
• 20:20
  already
• 20:21
  lost
• 20:21
  their
• 20:21
  weight
• 20:21
  and
• 20:22
  they're
• 20:22
  just
• 20:22
  looking
• 20:23
  to
• 20:23
  maintain
• 20:23
  and
• 20:24
  support
• 20:24
  others.
• 20:25
  And
• 20:26
  I'm
• 20:26
  the
• 20:26
  only
• 20:27
  overweight
• 20:28
  person
• 20:28
  on
• 20:28
  the
• 20:28
  call.
• 20:29
  And
• 20:29
  for
• 20:29
  the
• 20:30
  people
• 20:30
  out
• 20:30
  there
• 20:30
  listening,
• 20:31
  this
• 20:31
  is
• 20:31
  a
• 20:32
  perfect
• 20:32
  example
• 20:33
  of
• 20:33
  what
• 20:33
  we
• 20:33
  talk
• 20:33
  about
• 20:34
  where
• 20:34
  we
• 20:34
  say,
• 20:35
  you're
• 20:35
  right
• 20:36
  where
• 20:36
  you
• 20:36
  need
• 20:36
  to
• 20:37
  be.
• 20:37
  Like
• 20:37
  where
• 20:37
  you
• 20:38
  are
• 20:38
  right
• 20:38
  now
• 20:38
  is
• 20:39
  the,
• 20:39
  the
• 20:40
  spot
• 20:40
  to
• 20:40
  move
• 20:41
  forward.
• 20:41
  Like,
• 20:43
  don't
• 20:43
  wait
• 20:44
  until
• 20:44
  you
• 20:44
  have
• 20:44
  it
• 20:45
  figured
• 20:45
  out
• 20:45
  to
• 20:46
  come
• 20:46
  on
• 20:46
  here
• 20:46
  and
• 20:46
  tell
• 20:47
  people
• 20:47
  I'm,
• 20:48
  you
• 20:48
  know,
• 20:48
  like
• 20:48
  that.
• 20:48
  I
• 20:49
  guess
• 20:49
  that's
• 20:49
  what
• 20:49
  I'm
• 20:49
  trying
• 20:49
  to
• 20:50
  say
• 20:50
  is
• 20:51
  don't
• 20:51
  wait
• 20:51
  until
• 20:51
  you've
• 20:52
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• 20:52
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  Like,
• 20:54
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• 20:54
  all
• 20:55
  In
• 20:55
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• 20:55
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  It
• 20:56
  is
• 20:56
  a
• 20:56
  lifelong
• 20:57
  process
• 20:58
  and
• 20:58
  you're
• 20:58
  going
• 20:59
  to
• 20:59
  get
• 20:59
  smarter
• 20:59
  and
• 21:00
  learn
• 21:00
  more
• 21:00
  and
• 21:00
  the
• 21:00
  things
• 21:01
  will
• 21:01
  get
• 21:01
  easier
• 21:01
  and
• 21:02
  those
• 21:02
  things
• 21:02
  will
• 21:02
  fall
• 21:03
  off
• 21:03
  and
• 21:04
  just
• 21:05
  continue
• 21:06
  to
• 21:06
  move
• 21:06
  forward
• 21:07
  is
• 21:07
  really
• 21:07
  the
• 21:08
  big
• 21:08
  picture.
• 21:08
  It's
• 21:09
  like
• 21:09
  going
• 21:09
  to
• 21:09
  an
• 21:09
  AA
• 21:10
  meeting
• 21:10
  and
• 21:10
  being
• 21:11
  like
• 21:11
  shamed
• 21:12
  and
• 21:12
  being
• 21:12
  like,
• 21:12
  oh,
• 21:12
  I
• 21:12
  got
• 21:13
  a
• 21:13
  dui.
• 21:13
  And
• 21:14
  they're
• 21:14
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• 21:14
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• 21:14
  we
• 21:14
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• 21:15
  did.
• 21:15
  I'm
• 21:15
  here
• 21:15
  for
• 21:16
  six.
• 21:17
  I'm
• 21:17
  here
• 21:17
  for
• 21:17
  two.
• 21:18
  Like,
• 21:18
  oh,
• 21:19
  yeah,
• 21:19
  okay,
• 21:19
  got
• 21:20
  you.
• 21:24
  And
• 21:24
  so,
• 21:25
  Tammy,
• 21:25
  that's
• 21:26
  why.
• 21:26
  That's
• 21:26
  why
• 21:27
  I
• 21:27
  started
• 21:28
  the
• 21:28
  Unburdened
• 21:29
  Entrepreneur,
• 21:30
  which
• 21:30
  right
• 21:31
  now
• 21:31
  it's
• 21:32
  a
• 21:32
  series
• 21:33
  of
• 21:33
  workshops
• 21:34
  getting,
• 21:35
  getting
• 21:35
  the
• 21:35
  word
• 21:35
  out
• 21:36
  to
• 21:36
  other
• 21:36
  business
• 21:36
  owners
• 21:37
  who
• 21:38
  may
• 21:38
  feel
• 21:38
  a
• 21:38
  little
• 21:39
  crazy
• 21:39
  like
• 21:39
  I
• 21:40
  do
• 21:40
  at
• 21:40
  times
• 21:41
  if
• 21:41
  they
• 21:41
  are
• 21:42
  in
• 21:42
  recovery
• 21:42
  from
• 21:43
  addiction
• 21:43
  and
• 21:43
  they
• 21:44
  find
• 21:44
  that
• 21:45
  that
• 21:45
  recovery
• 21:46
  is
• 21:46
  a
• 21:46
  lot
• 21:46
  harder
• 21:47
  when
• 21:47
  you
• 21:48
  throw
• 21:49
  running
• 21:49
  a
• 21:49
  business
• 21:50
  into
• 21:51
  the
• 21:51
  mix,
• 21:52
  which
• 21:53
  will
• 21:53
  jack
• 21:53
  it
• 21:53
  up
• 21:53
  every
• 21:54
  time
• 21:54
  or
• 21:55
  really
• 21:55
  any
• 21:56
  kind
• 21:56
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• 21:57
  emotional
• 21:58
  recovery.
• 21:59
  Let's
• 22:00
  say
• 22:00
  that
• 22:00
  there's
• 22:01
  been
• 22:01
  a
• 22:01
  lifetime
• 22:02
  of
• 22:02
  anxiety
• 22:02
  or
• 22:03
  a
• 22:03
  lifet
• 22:04
  shame
• 22:04
  to
• 22:04
  overcome
• 22:06
  those
• 22:06
  things
• 22:06
  will
• 22:07
  jack
• 22:07
  up
• 22:07
  running
• 22:08
  a
• 22:08
  business
• 22:08
  as
• 22:08
  well.
• 22:09
  And
• 22:09
  having
• 22:10
  walked
• 22:10
  that
• 22:10
  out
• 22:11
  and
• 22:11
  fallen
• 22:12
  plenty
• 22:12
  of
• 22:13
  times
• 22:13
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• 22:13
  gotten
• 22:14
  back
• 22:14
  up
• 22:14
  and
• 22:14
  figuring
• 22:15
  it
• 22:15
  out
• 22:16
  and
• 22:16
  learning
• 22:16
  a
• 22:17
  lot
• 22:17
  along
• 22:17
  the
• 22:17
  way,
• 22:18
  I
• 22:18
  have
• 22:18
  a
• 22:18
  great
• 22:19
  desire
• 22:19
  to
• 22:19
  help
• 22:19
  other
• 22:20
  business
• 22:20
  owners
• 22:20
  who
• 22:21
  suffer
• 22:21
  with
• 22:21
  the
• 22:21
  same.
• 22:22
  So
• 22:23
  your
• 22:23
  course
• 22:23
  is.
• 22:24
  I
• 22:24
  know
• 22:24
  you
• 22:24
  said
• 22:24
  a
• 22:24
  program
• 22:25
  was
• 22:25
  coming
• 22:25
  out,
• 22:25
  so
• 22:26
  you've
• 22:26
  got
• 22:26
  the
• 22:26
  foundation
• 22:27
  of
• 22:27
  it.
• 22:27
  You've
• 22:27
  got
• 22:27
  the
• 22:28
  workshops
• 22:28
  and
• 22:28
  stuff
• 22:28
  going
• 22:29
  on.
• 22:29
  Is
• 22:29
  the
• 22:29
  program
• 22:30
  right
• 22:31
  now
• 22:31
  it's
• 22:31
  in.
• 22:31
  The
• 22:31
  form
• 22:32
  of
• 22:32
  workshops.
• 22:33
  I'm
• 22:33
  thinking
• 22:33
  that
• 22:34
  I'll
• 22:34
  eventually
• 22:34
  put
• 22:35
  together
• 22:35
  a
• 22:35
  cohort,
• 22:37
  but
• 22:37
  all
• 22:38
  of
• 22:38
  this
• 22:38
  can
• 22:39
  be
• 22:39
  found
• 22:39
  on
• 22:40
  my
• 22:40
  website,
• 22:40
  Jennifer
• 22:41
  Shropi
• 22:42
  dot
• 22:42
  com.
• 22:43
  Okay.
• 22:43
  Sounds
• 22:44
  absolutely
• 22:44
  amazing.
• 22:45
  I'd
• 22:45
  love
• 22:45
  to
• 22:45
  check
• 22:45
  it
• 22:46
  out.
• 22:46
  And
• 22:46
  I
• 22:46
  know
• 22:46
  a
• 22:46
  lot
• 22:46
  of
• 22:46
  people
• 22:47
  out
• 22:47
  there.
• 22:48
  It's
• 22:48
  a
• 22:49
  question.
• 22:49
  We
• 22:49
  all
• 22:49
  think
• 22:50
  that
• 22:50
  our
• 22:50
  story
• 22:50
  is
• 22:51
  so
• 22:51
  unique
• 22:51
  and
• 22:52
  that
• 22:52
  it's
• 22:52
  never
• 22:52
  happened
• 22:53
  to
• 22:53
  anybody
• 22:53
  and
• 22:54
  that,
• 22:54
  you
• 22:54
  know,
• 22:54
  you
• 22:54
  can't
• 22:55
  get
• 22:55
  out
• 22:55
  of
• 22:55
  this.
• 22:55
  Guys,
• 22:56
  it
• 22:56
  doesn't
• 22:56
  matter
• 22:56
  where
• 22:56
  you
• 22:57
  are
• 22:57
  or
• 22:57
  where
• 22:57
  you've
• 22:57
  come
• 22:58
  from
• 22:58
  or
• 22:59
  how
• 22:59
  bad
• 22:59
  it
• 22:59
  got
• 23:00
  even.
• 23:00
  There's
• 23:01
  always
• 23:02
  a
• 23:02
  way
• 23:02
  forward.
• 23:03
  You
• 23:03
  just
• 23:03
  have
• 23:03
  to
• 23:03
  believe
• 23:04
  in
• 23:04
  it
• 23:04
  and
• 23:04
  you
• 23:04
  have
• 23:04
  to
• 23:05
  believe
• 23:05
  in
• 23:05
  yourself
• 23:05
  and
• 23:05
  you
• 23:06
  have
• 23:06
  to
• 23:06
  find
• 23:06
  those
• 23:06
  tools
• 23:08
  that
• 23:08
  can
• 23:08
  get
• 23:09
  that
• 23:09
  into
• 23:09
  your
• 23:10
  conscious
• 23:10
  programming
• 23:11
  that
• 23:11
  you
• 23:12
  are
• 23:12
  worthy
• 23:12
  and
• 23:12
  you
• 23:13
  are
• 23:13
  enough.
• 23:14
  So
• 23:14
  jennifershrapi.com
• 23:16
  is
• 23:16
  exactly
• 23:17
  where
• 23:17
  everybody
• 23:17
  would
• 23:18
  go.
• 23:18
  Yep.
• 23:20
  Okay.
• 23:20
  And
• 23:20
  I'll
• 23:21
  put
• 23:21
  that
• 23:21
  in
• 23:21
  the
• 23:21
  show
• 23:21
  notes
• 23:22
  for
• 23:22
  you
• 23:22
  and
• 23:23
  then
• 23:23
  we'll.
• 23:23
  When
• 23:23
  your
• 23:24
  whole
• 23:24
  course
• 23:24
  launches
• 23:25
  and
• 23:25
  comes
• 23:25
  out,
• 23:26
  we'll
• 23:26
  do
• 23:26
  a
• 23:26
  big.
• 23:27
  Another
• 23:27
  big
• 23:28
  thing.
• 23:28
  Maybe
• 23:28
  come.
• 23:29
  Have
• 23:29
  you
• 23:29
  come
• 23:29
  back
• 23:29
  on.
• 23:29
  Just
• 23:30
  talk
• 23:30
  about
• 23:30
  your
• 23:30
  course
• 23:31
  because
• 23:31
  I
• 23:31
  think
• 23:31
  that
• 23:32
  is.
• 23:32
  What's
• 23:33
  it
• 23:33
  called?
• 23:33
  The
• 23:33
  unburdened.
• 23:34
  The
• 23:35
  unburdened
• 23:35
  entrepreneur.
• 23:37
  I
• 23:37
  love
• 23:37
  it.
• 23:37
  So
• 23:38
  if
• 23:38
  you
• 23:38
  have
• 23:38
  any
• 23:39
  questions
• 23:39
  for
• 23:39
  Jennifer,
• 23:40
  reach
• 23:40
  out
• 23:40
  to
• 23:41
  her.
• 23:41
  And
• 23:42
  before
• 23:42
  you
• 23:42
  leave,
• 23:43
  I
• 23:44
  want
• 23:44
  you
• 23:44
  to
• 23:44
  give
• 23:44
  the
• 23:45
  listeners
• 23:46
  one
• 23:47
  piece
• 23:47
  of
• 23:48
  advice.
• 23:48
  Something.
• 23:49
  A
• 23:49
  tip,
• 23:49
  a
• 23:49
  trick,
• 23:50
  something
• 23:50
  tangible
• 23:51
  to
• 23:51
  take
• 23:51
  with
• 23:51
  them
• 23:51
  to
• 23:51
  make
• 23:52
  their
• 23:52
  day
• 23:52
  a
• 23:52
  little
• 23:52
  better.
• 23:53
  What
• 23:53
  would
• 23:53
  it
• 23:53
  be?
• 23:57
  Whatever
• 23:57
  is
• 23:58
  coming
• 23:58
  at
• 23:59
  you
• 23:59
  on
• 23:59
  the
• 23:59
  inside,
• 24:02
  it's
• 24:03
  trying
• 24:03
  to
• 24:04
  avoid
• 24:06
  a
• 24:06
  feared
• 24:06
  outcome.
• 24:09
  So
• 24:09
  it's
• 24:09
  not
• 24:10
  based
• 24:10
  in
• 24:11
  complete
• 24:12
  truth.
• 24:14
  It's.
• 24:14
  It's
• 24:15
  coming
• 24:15
  at
• 24:15
  you
• 24:16
  from
• 24:16
  a
• 24:16
  place
• 24:16
  of
• 24:17
  fear.
• 24:18
  So
• 24:18
  keep
• 24:19
  that
• 24:19
  in
• 24:19
  mind
• 24:20
  and
• 24:20
  get
• 24:21
  curious
• 24:22
  about
• 24:23
  what
• 24:23
  that
• 24:24
  fearful
• 24:25
  part
• 24:25
  or
• 24:26
  inner
• 24:26
  critic
• 24:27
  or
• 24:27
  imposter
• 24:28
  syndrome
• 24:28
  or
• 24:28
  whatever
• 24:29
  it
• 24:29
  may
• 24:29
  be,
• 24:31
  how
• 24:32
  that
• 24:32
  force
• 24:33
  may
• 24:33
  be
• 24:33
  driven
• 24:33
  by
• 24:34
  fear,
• 24:36
  and
• 24:37
  he'll
• 24:38
  reach
• 24:38
  peace
• 24:39
  a
• 24:39
  lot
• 24:40
  more
• 24:40
  quickly.
• 24:41
  Amen.
• 24:42
  And
• 24:43
  is
• 24:43
  there
• 24:43
  anything
• 24:43
  else
• 24:44
  you
• 24:44
  want
• 24:44
  to
• 24:44
  tell
• 24:44
  the
• 24:45
  listeners?
• 24:45
  Sounds
• 24:46
  great.
• 24:46
  Thank
• 24:46
  you
• 24:47
  so
• 24:47
  much
• 24:47
  for
• 24:47
  coming
• 24:47
  on.
• 24:49
  Thanks
• 24:49
  for
• 24:49
  having
• 24:49
  me.
• 24:50
  This
• 24:50
  has
• 24:50
  been
• 24:50
  great.
• 24:51
  Yeah,
• 24:51
  you're
• 24:51
  very
• 24:51
  welcome.
• 24:52
  And
• 24:52
  for
• 24:52
  everybody
• 24:52
  else
• 24:52
  out
• 24:53
  there
• 24:53
  listening,
• 24:53
  you
• 24:53
  heard
• 24:53
  it.
• 24:54
  You
• 24:54
  are
• 24:54
  so,
• 24:54
  so
• 24:54
  worth
• 24:55
  it.
• 24:55
  I
• 24:55
  mean,
• 24:55
  you
• 24:55
  guys
• 24:55
  hear
• 24:56
  how
• 24:56
  I
• 24:56
  end
• 24:56
  the
• 24:56
  end
• 24:56
  of
• 24:57
  every
• 24:57
  single
• 24:57
  podcast.
• 24:58
  You
• 24:58
  are
• 24:58
  way,
• 24:59
  way
• 24:59
  more
• 25:00
  than
• 25:00
  enough
• 25:00
  right
• 25:01
  here,
• 25:01
  right
• 25:01
  now.
• 25:02
  But
• 25:03
  also
• 25:03
  know
• 25:03
  there's
• 25:04
  so
• 25:04
  many
• 25:05
  resources
• 25:05
  out
• 25:06
  there
• 25:06
  to
• 25:06
  make
• 25:07
  your
• 25:07
  day
• 25:07
  a
• 25:07
  little
• 25:07
  brighter,
• 25:08
  to
• 25:08
  make
• 25:08
  things
• 25:08
  a
• 25:08
  little
• 25:09
  easier,
• 25:09
  and
• 25:09
  to
• 25:10
  get
• 25:10
  a
• 25:10
  little
• 25:10
  more
• 25:11
  of
• 25:11
  that
• 25:11
  inner
• 25:12
  peace
• 25:12
  that
• 25:12
  we
• 25:13
  owe.
• 25:13
  So
• 25:13
  you
• 25:13
  guys
• 25:14
  have
• 25:14
  a
• 25:14
  blessed
• 25:14
  week,
• 25:15
  and
• 25:15
  we
• 25:15
  will
• 25:15
  see
• 25:15
  you
• 25:16
  back.
• 25:17
  Thanks.