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Mind-Body Connection: How Posture, Movement, & Awareness Transform Your Mental & Emotional Health with Lindsay Newitter · The FEEL Podcast: Women’s Empowerment, Emotional Wellness and Self-Leadership with Melissa Crook

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Well, I think I, I used to feel like whatever reaction I was
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having to whatever situation was just all-encompassing and I, it
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was like I couldn't separate myself from the other person,
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from the thought, from the emotional reaction.
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It was like 1 big storm. Yeah.
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So now it's not like nothing ever triggers me.
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Mm hmm. That, you know, I, I think that
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when, whenever I have to meet a new person, there's a little
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like, right. Mm, hmm, yeah.
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But so I'll feel that, but then I, I instantly know how to and I
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then use that like little, oh, I'm having a little reaction as
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a trigger for me to be able to really clearly sense where my
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body is since that I'm grounded that I am in this space there in
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that space. And.
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We're connected, we're relating to each other, but I'm, I'm not,
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I'm not sort of getting into this turmoil of the storm where
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I just can't leave things out. So I can just see.
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It's like I can just see, I can see my reactions that might
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start to pop up and then it's like I have a choice about that.
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Hello field podcast audience. Welcome back today.
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I've got a friend here with me that if you follow our panel
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show, you have heard from her on our panels before, but this is
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the first time you're hearing from her on our podcast
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platform. I met her for our good friends
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at Podmatch. I'm always so thankful for them,
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to them, for how they connect me to so many amazing women.
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And Lindsay Newater is one of those people.
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And so I'm excited to share her story and resources with you on
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the podcast today. She describes herself as
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grounded, centered, curious, introverted and funny, which I
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love. And she's like, not everybody
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knows that about me. I'm like, that's the fun part
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about character traits and who we are is that there's so many
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nuances of how we show up in different spaces.
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Lindsay, welcome to the Field podcast.
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Thank. You so much, Melissa.
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It's really nice to be here. I'm so happy to have you here.
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And I tell you what, listeners, this is something that as we get
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into Lindsay's story and hear about her resources and what she
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offers, it's going to be something that you probably have
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not thought about in this way before.
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But once you hear her talk about it, it's going to make a lot of
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sense to you. And you're going to be like, I
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know I was the first time she and I talked and visit, I was
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like, oh, I get that now. And so I think it's going to be
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a really, really interesting new tool for you to consider and
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you're in your care box that she's offering to us today.
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So let's get into it. Talk to me, Lindsay, about
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prioritizing self-care in your life and your journey with.
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That so my journey, I don't, I don't know, you know, if how
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common this is or not. You know, I work with a lot of
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people. They everybody's different.
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Everybody sort of comes from a different place.
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I know that there's a lot of culture around women being like
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in the helper role or being taught to be in that role and
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like, you know, kind of defaulting to that.
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And I would say for me, it was kind of the opposite.
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Like I had, I had no idea I could help people.
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I was sort of afraid of helping people.
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And I had this idea that no one thought I was a helpful person.
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It was sort of. Isn't it amazing what the
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thoughts we have in our hands? Yeah.
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And so at the time, so at the time when I learned about the
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work that I ended up training in, and I've been teaching for
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18 years, the Alexander Technique, I was, I was a
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college student and I was sitting acting and I was like, I
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was realizing that I was, I was a bit shut off because I was
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asked to engage obviously quite intensely.
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And I was getting all this feedback about things related to
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my posture and how I moved and breathe, but also just about
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that, like I wasn't connected. I wasn't connected to my
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emotions. I wasn't connecting to.
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And I think I felt in my life that like, I'm like, oh, I'm the
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last person somebody would come to if they were having a bad
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day. Oh wow.
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Which made me feel kind of bad. It's something I didn't.
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I had friends, but I felt like I wasn't like that person people
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would come to or like that they would seek out help if they were
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having a problem. And this is something that
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gradually changed and I ended up getting into work that is all
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about helping people and self-care.
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So I would say that like myself, care issue was not that I was
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trying too hard to help others. It's that like I kind of didn't
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know where I was. I kind of like I, I didn't know
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where I was, where my center was, so that I would even know
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how to like, sense myself in the relationship to the person I was
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helping. I.
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Don't know if that makes sense. And then the same thing I think
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happened to me is really trying to to always be the helpful
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person. They can kind of lose
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themselves, but I was just sort of like lost in myself and I
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didn't know where that hopefulness would even come from
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within me. Wow, that's so interesting.
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And I think that goes into I'm just, you know, shooting darts
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here and this may not be it, but I think sometimes when you're
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more introverted, the world kind of magnifies and sometimes even
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celebrates big personalities and people that are really speak and
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show up in all of that all the time.
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And I think there's a misunderstanding that that's the
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way that's what attracts people, when in fact, some people can,
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that can be really intimidating or even off putting.
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And so it's, it's being, I think because the, the beauty of being
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an introvert in at least in the experience with the introverts I
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know in a real estate is they have abilities to take in
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everything that's going in, in a room, going on in a room and
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really notice that. And when they speak, it means
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something like it's not just noise.
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And I and I'm an extrovert. So I mean, I'm not beating up on
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myself. It's just we operate differently
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in the world. And so I think because of that
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narrative that's out there, so many times people that are
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introverted feel like maybe have those same thoughts that you're
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talking about, when in fact, you are the ones that we need to
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kind of let us know the temperature of a room sometimes
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and speak that thing. Because I'll tell you what, when
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the introverts in my life do you say something, it means
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something. It gets your attention.
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It makes you stop and think. It's not just fluff.
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It is very intentional. And so I think it would you say
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those narratives impacted you, do you think?
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Absolutely. I think I felt the time quite
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socially awkward. I felt like I, I, I was in a
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group conversation. I wouldn't know when it was my
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turn to speak. It was sort of like, I never
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like everybody else knew when to say something, but I didn't know
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when to say anything. And and then I can start to feel
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like, well, no one wants to listen to me, which kind of
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narrative, like no one wants to listen to me.
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I'm not a helpful person. I'm not somebody to go to and I
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do tend to take things in, like try to kind of take in the big
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picture and take a while to kind of assimilate what I'm taking in
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before I kind of say something. Sure.
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Doesn't mean I can't be in a, you know, popping a back and
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forth conversation. I can do that too.
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But that tends to be where I feel my sweet spot is, and that
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if I if I'm allowed to do that, that I feel good.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So talk to me about getting that
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to that point where you understood that about yourself
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and you understood, oh, this is how I this these are the things
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I need to fill my cup. This is what works for me, this
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and and that's good. And there's nothing wrong with
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that. And there's nothing.
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And I show up in a way that's honoring to me and honoring to
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those I'm in relationship with. Yeah, well, I think, you know,
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it's been in phases because when I encountered the work I do,
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which I I already brought up because it was such a life
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changing shift. Yeah.
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Talk about the life change. Talk about yeah.
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Let's talk about and then you know, like that was when I was
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20. I'm I just 346 yesterday and
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happy birthday with you. And so I, you know, like your
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life situation evolves. Some people go like, you know,
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when am I going to get that? When am I going to have better
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posture? When am I going to feel this
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way? When am I going to like reach
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this point at which apparently like you're supposed to stay and
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then it's like perfect. Still waiting for that, yeah.
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We can develop skills that we take with us through, you know,
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whatever we encounter. So at the time when I was 20,
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what was really coming at me and becoming obvious were two things
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that I was in this acting program and that I was really
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passionate about that. But it was like I felt like I
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couldn't do it the way people wanted me to.
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And I was like, I'm not succeeding in this.
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I'm trying. And people are sort of like
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acknowledging that I'm trying and but then kind of shaking
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their heads that I'm not really doing it right.
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The other thing was I had come off of five years of wearing a
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back brace as a teenager for scoliosis, which, you know, the
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scoliosis itself, it was one thing.
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And then wearing a plastic brace around my torso, you know, that
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it, it affected my breathing, it affected my posture, just my
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body's ability to hold itself up.
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Yeah. And it was uncomfortable all the
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time. And it's like I didn't, I didn't
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really know what my body was doing.
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So I would get these instructions in these, you know,
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voice classes, movement, acting classes, and sort of like, is
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this right? I don't know.
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Most people have had this experience to some degree.
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Like maybe they've been in an exercise class or a dance class
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and somebody demonstrates something, they think they're
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doing it and the teacher's like, actually you're doing this.
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So there's kind of a disconnect between what your body's
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actually doing what you're doing.
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And I realized this is, this is kind of pervasive in my life.
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And it was after I had a, a class in the Alexander
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Technique. It's actually taught in a lot of
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acting schools. But by this time, I've gone
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through two years of sort of not knowing what the heck was going
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on with me know what problem I had.
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I realized that my problem was not that like I was bad at
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acting or that I'm, you know, it was just a lost cause.
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It was that I I couldn't sense myself properly in order.
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To. So technique, it was like, it
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was like a light bulb came on in my body.
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The teacher put their hands on me and gave me some instructions
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and I was like, Oh my, I was like, I can, I can feel what
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they're saying, what I'm doing. And are you familiar with the
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word proprioception? I've never heard that, no SO.
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It means that it's similar to kinesthesia, right?
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Kinesthesia refers particularly to movement.
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Proprioception is just like your sense of where your body is in
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space, where your bones are, where you're moving, how you
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take up space. And that really determines a lot
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about how we move and where we perceive we are and a lot of
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our, our feelings and situations.
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Like we might think it's like, oh, it's a mindset.
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Like I'm in the social situation.
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I feel uncomfortable. There are thoughts about that,
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but there's also a physical pattern about that.
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So in terms of my acting classes, but also in terms of
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like those kinds of situations, it's like those patterns just
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lit up. It's like I could see them and
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I, I had tools to be able to change them.
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So it's almost like being able to slow down that space between
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stimulus and response, which normally just like it's like
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this, yeah, see this person and we wrapped to them.
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It's like like you probably don't even.
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It's like a blip. Yeah.
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And so the garbledy gug actually became like, oh, this is like,
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I'm experiencing what happens to my body in real time.
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And like, why? Like I suddenly feel like I
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can't breathe when I'm talking or you know why I feel so tense
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or awkward and that I could actually kind of go down a
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different path and do something like change those habits.
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Yeah, yeah. And yeah.
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And I think, you know, beyond the acting and we'll talk about
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this more as we throughout the episode.
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There's so much more to it and how it serves you.
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But this was really a gateway that opened up for you because I
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don't think we cannot minimize what it must have been like.
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So in those those formative years when you're learning how
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to move in your body in your teen years and learning and
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going through different growing phases, you had this brace on.
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So you weren't able to make those connections.
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And so all of a sudden you don't have it on, but your body is
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still coming from a 14 or 15 year old, you know, mindset of
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trying to learn how she operates, but you're operating
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as a, you know, 19 and 20 year old now.
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This was really kind of a gateway for you to bring that
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all together and kind of I would, you know, I don't know,
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get caught up is the right thing, but be in touch with in a
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very intentional way that was served you so far beyond acting.
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Oh, absolutely. The acting.
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That's just that was sort of the, the entry point.
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And I, I often call this work the, the, the best kept secret
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that most actors know, but that everybody needs.
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And as soon as people go, I've heard of that.
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Isn't that an acting technique? It's actually not an acting
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technique at all. It's just a technique to sense
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your body better, which helps. It can help, you know, help
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people with most things. You know, it's like, yeah, you.
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Can help people with most things and things that they often don't
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think of as connected. Absolutely.
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Yeah, OK. We're going to come back to
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that, but. Before we do, yeah.
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Talk to me about confidently setting boundaries in your life
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boundaries you run your time, which you give your energy to.
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As introverts, you have to be an introverts got to be mindful of
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their energy. It is having enough to give and
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and also making time. And this world doesn't want us
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to shut down. It wants us to keep going.
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But you've got to make time to make you've got time to fill
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your cup in a way that's honoring to you and allows you
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to show up with the energy you want to.
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And that's true for all of us. But I think because of the way
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our society runs this, how we, you know, glorify 80 hours of
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work week kinds of things and being out with people and super
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social all the time. It's like, no, we got to have
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time to fill our cups and rest and you know, and take time for
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that. So you're kind of, you know, I
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think we feel like we're always like kind of working against the
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grain with that. So talk to me about what you've
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learned in your life. About the importance of healthy
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boundaries for you, Yeah, well, I think the the even knowing I
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had boundaries, that that was something I learned.
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It's like understanding my own boundaries and my body and my
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feelings and and being able to sense myself is separate from
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all the stuff happening around me.
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Yeah. This is this is where I am.
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This is what I need. And then, and then it's like,
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well, maybe I need to to tell somebody I need this because I
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feel what I need. And you know, that's I guess
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manifested differently in different ways.
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I think one of them is a more recent thing, which was so
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during the pandemic, I both got married and moved to another
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country. So like so many I I'm from New
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York, I live in Montreal now and my husband and I are in a
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relationship in different places and the pandemic we're like, we
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want to be in the same place and so.
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Montreal is a beautiful place to be.
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It is, it is. And.
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And The thing is, though, is that we really started living
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together in lockdown. Yeah, oh boy.
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And which actually went fairly well.
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And but The thing is, it's like we've continued to live
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together, both working from home.
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It both works from home. And I hadn't worked from home
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previously. I always hadn't like a office
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studio space outside of my home. He's used to working from home.
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So what's been an adjustment for me?
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And it's feel like it's still something I'm negotiating a bit,
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probably more with myself. And how I express it is like how
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to feel like I can work from home, get my work done.
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Also feel like I have my own space and time and have quality
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time with my husband and with my kids and like not feel like
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everything's just always bumping into each other.
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Yeah, I mean. Like I even with my pets and
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that like I'll be sitting in my office and it's meal time and
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I've got 2 pets and a dog like sitting there staring at me.
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What is this? And there's something like that
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I find really just focusing about like, OK, I go to, I get
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out of the house, I go to this place for this amount of time.
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So sometimes it's actually scheduling that for myself.
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I have a friend who also works for herself and we we usually
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meet once a week and we Co work in a Cafe and just get some odds
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and then do some writing, you know, contact with clients,
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stuff like that. Yeah.
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So like, that's helpful. Some of it is just, you know,
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speaking up at home and saying like, get out of my office.
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I'm. Just like ice workspace not
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place, space not space. I'm working now.
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I realize that saying like, OK, well, maybe like maybe we can
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speak at this time instead. Yeah, it's helpful So that, you
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know, not just saying because I think that the sort of emotional
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reaction would be like, like, I need to talk to myself right
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now, which sometimes I can fall into.
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But then if you go like, well, actually, no, we can kind of
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plan when we're going to do something and then it doesn't.
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These things don't bump into each other.
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And I would say just like being aware of how my body feels as to
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what's going on around me helps me to be a little more proactive
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about those things. And, you know, so you don't end
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up with like the train wreck of everybody needing something when
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you've got some work going on. Yeah, yeah, I think you that was
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such a good description of that. I think that bumping into each
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other piece, we all have to figure out our way to make that
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all work. Because when I the first time I
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ever worked from home was during the pandemic and now I do it all
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the time. But I had to, like when the work
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day was over, I had to go in my garage, get in my car, drive
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around the block. And it was actually my oldest
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daughter's idea. She's like, mom, try this.
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This might help you because we were all figuring this out for
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the first time. Yeah.
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Faces come back in the garage and then I would come back in my
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house as my home, not the place I was working.
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And, and, and that really helped me.
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And I, I got to a point where I didn't have to drive, but my
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husband and I would intentionally go for walks.
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We would go for a walk at lunchtime.
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We would go for a walk. Yeah.
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We'd go for a walk after work to create the space of like, OK,
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we're leaving our workspace or together and communicating with
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each other when we go back into our space.
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At, you know, at lunchtime, it was going back to work after
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work, it was going back into our home as our home.
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And now we'll have our evening and this will be our home.
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But it was those little like kind of mental things that we
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had to kind of get our nervous system accustomed to.
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So it's just finding that thing that works for you within all
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that. And, and we had, you know, we
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had four of us at home at the time, three of us working from
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home, one was working outside the home.
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So she was living a whole different, weird life of her own
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because she was, you know, in the minority of people.
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So yeah, it was a very interesting time that really
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forced me now. And it's helped me now that I am
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home all the time, where I am able to.
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Sometimes I just step out in between recordings or meetings.
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I just step outside in my backyard and I just take a
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breath or set some time, you know, just to create that nuance
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because otherwise it's very easy to just not have any, like you
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said, have things running into each other and not have those
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like, OK, this is work time, this is family time, this is me
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time, this is couple time. But you got to be intentional
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about it. Yeah, yeah, it was funny.
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I would say that for me, that hit me after things opened up
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because when things were shut down, it was sort of like you're
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in the house or you're out for a walk.
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Right, that's also the only choices.
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That really well and like the kids had school online, but like
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we, you know, they didn't have to leave in the there wasn't
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this whole thing. And then once things were open,
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I'm like, oh, I'm in a new city. I want to get involved with
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things and meet people, and then I have appointments outside and
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other people have appointments outside, plus working at home.
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Plus it was like, so suddenly there was like, a lot more stuff
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to manage. Yeah.
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Yeah. So sometimes the simplicity
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actually is helpful. I know, right?
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Clear. Yeah, it's that's very true.
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So yeah, that's just again, going back to that.
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And you, as you mentioned to listening to your body, like
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making sure you're, it's like I'm getting an alert here.
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It's time I got, you know, or even just remembering to
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communicate, like communicating the needs, the expectations, the
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boundaries. We'll get into all that.
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It's such an important piece of it as well, because no one's a
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mind reader. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I have to reminded that all the time, say to my husband like, Oh
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yeah, I'm doing this. And I tell you, he's like, no,
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we didn't. I know, same.
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I've been married for almost 32 years and we still bump into
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that. So yeah, it's an ongoing process
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and journey, right? All right.
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And I think this is going to go nicely into especially going
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back to what you've learned initially with this Alexander
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technique of making that connection between our
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emotional, mental, physical spirit, which will help all
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those connect points. Talk to me about your journey
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with that. Yeah, well, I think I used to
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feel like whatever reaction I was having to whatever situation
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was just all-encompassing. I was like, I couldn't separate
23:01
myself from the other person, from the thought, from the
23:05
emotional reaction. It was like 1 big storm.
23:08
Yeah. So now it's not like nothing
23:12
ever triggers me that, you know, I, I think that when, whenever I
23:17
have to meet a new person, there's a little like, right.
23:22
Yeah. But so I'll feel that, but then
23:26
I, I instantly know how to and I even use that like little, oh,
23:31
I'm having a little reaction as a trigger for me to be able to
23:35
really clearly sense where my body is since that I'm grounded
23:38
that I am in this space there in that space.
23:41
And. We're connected, we're relating
23:44
to each other. But I'm, I'm not, I'm not sort
23:48
of getting into this turmoil of the storm where I just can't
23:52
leave things out. So I can just see.
23:55
It's like I can just see, I can see my reactions that might
23:58
start to pop up. And it's like I have a choice
24:00
about that. So it's like time slows down.
24:04
Yeah. And.
24:04
It. Helps me see other people's
24:06
needs better. Like, I've got, I can actually
24:09
get what I'm noticing about somebody and they go like, huh,
24:11
let me ask them a question, you know, like I'm not quite sure
24:15
what they're thinking. I mean, that doesn't mean
24:17
they're bored or mad at me. I'll just ask them what's going
24:20
on because I have the. Yeah, you've got that sense.
24:25
Yeah. Yeah.
24:26
Yeah, also like having, not being distant, but just having a
24:29
little, a little bit of space. Right, space, I think the
24:32
spaciousness, that ability to be present spaciousness and you
24:35
open, you got clarity to recognize things and get, you
24:39
know, trust those clues. Yeah.
24:40
Oh, so good. Thank you so much for that.
24:43
All right, how we can support ourselves and other women in
24:47
living unapologetically. Talk to me about your journey
24:51
because I really feel like you've arrived at that space.
24:54
And but talk to me about your journey with that.
24:57
My journey with arriving in that.
24:59
Yeah, well. So like you mean going from when
25:04
I was 20 and I started like. Yeah, yeah.
25:08
It just when you had that unsure piece of not thinking you could
25:12
help people or people were looking to you to where you are
25:15
now, that has evolved and grown and changed.
25:18
Yeah, yeah. And, and I would say that that
25:21
there was significant change that happened pretty
25:23
immediately. And then it just it's been an
25:25
ongoing process in which I'm like, I have skills and tools
25:28
that I can use all the time. But I think what like the the
25:34
sort of nuts and bolts of it. And if this is a good time to
25:38
get, get a little more specific what it is that I do.
25:42
Yeah. So like there's a mindfulness
25:45
component in which is like I'm mindful of where I am.
25:47
I'm mindful of myself, Melissa, I'm talking to you.
25:50
I'm mindful of where I am in space.
25:52
But then like if I'm aware of myself, what, what is me or like
25:58
what is my perception of me when I'm mindful of myself because a
26:05
lot of people like my clients, for example, when I'll ask them
26:08
that question the first session, like if I say pay attention to
26:12
your body, like if I'm just general about that.
26:15
Yeah. Like where do you sense your
26:17
body? They might say, I don't sense it
26:20
at all, right And right. So then it's like, OK, well,
26:25
let's say, do you sense your body?
26:27
Where do you sense your body? They might say like from about
26:30
my chest to my head. Oh, wow.
26:35
And that's where they're aware. They only sense.
26:36
And then we we start to like pick that apart and ask more
26:39
questions. This is where that
26:40
proprioception thing comes in. So now we're looking at anatomy
26:44
and I think, well, how did we jump to anatomy?
26:46
But this has so much how to do with how we function and how we
26:49
feel in your life. Situations that often like
26:53
people are only like the person who's not aware of himself at
26:55
all. They might just be aware of
26:56
what's in front of them. Like I'm talking and I'm just,
26:59
I'm just looking at you and all my attention is going to you and
27:02
like how, oh, you're reacting and what I see and I lose myself
27:07
or maybe I'm aware of myself that it's just like here, it's
27:09
just my face, like up to my eyes.
27:12
So often people are just aware up to their eyes, like they're
27:15
not aware their heightens any higher.
27:17
And then, you know, those little paper plate masks that kids make
27:20
with. Yeah, right, yeah, yes.
27:24
So like I think of that as where most people are aware, like in
27:29
their head, like they're where their face kind of going toward
27:32
things like it's a flat thing, like they're a little paper
27:34
plate not around and they might not really sense their body
27:39
below them or above them or behind them.
27:42
Your head goes quite far back. And so like people can get into
27:47
this. It's kind of like a start on
27:48
mode where they're just sort of like pushing their face forward
27:51
at the world, which actually locks your neck forward and kind
27:56
of locks your head down onto your spine.
27:59
And that just kind of shuts down your breathing.
28:01
So some people will say to me, I get really out of breath when I
28:03
speak. And it usually starts from
28:06
there. And to go even further, like it
28:08
starts from like the eyes and like seeing whatever the
28:12
stimulus is, whether it's like the computer screen or like the
28:15
person who comes into your space or the group of people you're
28:19
talking to or the situation. Like we can get into kind of a
28:22
tunnel vision about ourselves. We lose ourselves.
28:26
And then your awareness of yourself could just be like just
28:29
aware of like, like the front of my head or you know, I just feel
28:35
like my whole body is like a BLOB.
28:38
So they can sort of separate out the joints.
28:41
Like arms are like they'll say like my whole like shoulder,
28:44
neck, upper back area just feels like one big BLOB.
28:47
And in terms of their muscles, it actually is acting that way.
28:51
And then that becomes sort of their perception of their self,
28:55
but they might not be able to identify how it could be
28:57
different. So my job is like know in a very
29:03
real way where their space is. Because with habit, we can we
29:07
can lose the sense of where it is.
29:09
So it's like you just sort of know what you feel and you might
29:12
not know there's more space to. Inhabit, Yeah.
29:18
And so there's like all this, like advice like stand up taller
29:21
or fix your back or stand up straight, take up your space.
29:25
What most people do to try to take up their space or stand up
29:27
straighter is they kind of pull their shoulders back, but then
29:30
they're like stretching their lower back.
29:33
Yeah, your shoulders hard into something else.
29:37
So they kind of like, end up trying to fix things from the
29:39
outside and like, gonna try to be taller, be more powerful.
29:42
And it ends up being sort of painted on and forced.
29:46
And usually it doesn't feel sustainable or like.
29:48
Right. Doesn't feel like.
29:50
Genuine. Yeah, I can't hold this for
29:53
forever, right? Right.
29:54
But you're not supposed to hold it.
29:56
Like the idea is just to to be more in you, but you have to
29:58
know where you is. So like this, this is something
30:02
that helps you know where you is.
30:05
Wow. Like in a way that it's like
30:07
you're seeing the hidden things you're doing that are keeping
30:09
you from that. Oh my goodness.
30:12
So why do you think, and you and I talked about this when we met,
30:15
but I want you to share this with our listeners.
30:18
Why don't you think this has been something that really has
30:22
only been shared in this actor space?
30:25
I just, it's, it's kind of mind blowing to me that this is not
30:29
more out in the world in terms of people knowing about it.
30:35
Well, it's something that that it's, I would say that like if
30:38
most actors, if you mention it to them, they will offer it.
30:41
It is sort of more spaces and it depends on where in the world.
30:44
Like I would say in the UK, it's more of a household name where
30:49
there are more certified teachers.
30:52
Kind of depends. But yes, it's mostly known in
30:54
like that actor and musician world.
30:57
It's taught in a lot of like in the US.
30:59
It's taught in many like MFAVFA programs and universities.
31:04
OK. OK.
31:05
And I think one of the reasons is that so in those contexts,
31:11
the, the, the need for that is and, and the, the obvious like
31:16
application of it is, is super immediate.
31:20
Like as an actor, you, you're playing a role.
31:24
You're like, you're playing somebody else really
31:25
intentionally, like you're, you're crafting all of their
31:29
habits. So in order to do that, you've
31:31
got to go like, what is, what is this sort of, you know, it's not
31:34
really blank slate, but this person I'm working with is
31:37
doing. Otherwise you're just sort of
31:39
like doing stuff and you don't know what you're doing.
31:40
Kind of like what I thought I was doing at first.
31:44
So being able to sense accurately what you're doing so
31:46
you can craft those sort of character choices.
31:49
Yeah, the character traits of your, your character and not to
31:55
be whatever, you know, whatever you're doing.
31:59
And then with things like music acting to some degree, you know,
32:02
depending on what kind of acting you're doing, there's like
32:05
there's risk of injury. A lot of musicians have injured
32:07
repetitive strain injuries and they and they can't play, they
32:10
can't work. So I've worked with musicians
32:12
who, you know, thought their career was over, but then with,
32:18
with more body awareness, they were able to play without
32:22
injuring themselves. Sometimes actors are to do quite
32:25
an intense thing. They don't want to injure
32:27
themselves. You don't want to injure their
32:28
voices. Yeah.
32:30
All these things I'm talking about, you know, this is a
32:33
method that it helps with your posture, with your breathing,
32:36
with your voice, just, and just how you're responding to
32:38
stimuli. And it's like what everybody
32:39
does. Yeah.
32:41
All day and it's been around for 100 years.
32:45
Wow. Yeah, it was developed by a guy
32:49
in Australia. He was losing his voice.
32:53
So he went on to explore why that was happening and
32:57
discovered that he was creating all this tension to his neck and
33:00
his head. And it was actually that sort of
33:01
not really noticing this pattern that was engaging that was
33:05
causing the problem. Yeah, wow, wow.
33:09
I just feel like it's something that because I had never heard
33:12
of it till I met you and I was like how did I not know about
33:15
this for the 1st 55 years of my life?
33:17
This sounds like this could be really handy because just being
33:21
because so many of us live so disassociated.
33:24
From our bodies. Well, there's where I think you
33:26
get into a good point. So like the the question of why
33:30
is it not more well known? I said like, well, here's why
33:32
actors and musicians, I find it so obviously useful.
33:36
I think why it might not be so obviously useful to a lot of
33:39
people is because it's not necessarily like the culture
33:42
doesn't say this is something you can learn.
33:45
This is a skill. It's sort of like people just go
33:48
around and say stand up straight, yeah.
33:51
Or, you know, like get a job and you're just expected that you're
33:54
you know, you're going to be charismatic and stand in front
33:57
of a group of people and give a talk.
33:59
And or maybe that's just something you're born with and
34:01
people have that or they don't. So there are all these skills of
34:04
like how to be with yourself, how to be with people, how to
34:08
interact with the stuff you interact with all day.
34:10
And that that it's it's not really like understood well,
34:17
like, you know, culturally and often gets really oversimplified
34:23
and makes people feel kind of embarrassed and a lot of kind of
34:26
have shame about it. Like, oh, I can't do that.
34:29
It must be a genetic thing. I have or, you know, my mom
34:33
always told me to stand up straight, but I can't.
34:35
But you know, maybe person's mother had no idea what your
34:39
buddy needs to do to stand up straight.
34:41
Sure, sure. But then people don't know that
34:44
there is a way to do that that doesn't feel like.
34:48
Uncomfortable. Yeah, and a natural.
34:51
Yeah. And so there's a lot of
34:54
information out there that's like, you know, quick fixes and
34:57
like quick fixes can be very enticing, but they usually,
35:01
they're usually not something that that endures.
35:05
They're quick, but they're not. They're not.
35:07
You know, we live in such a fast food, I call it the fast food
35:10
society where we just want things immediately and we look
35:14
for that quick fix, but the quick fix usually doesn't have
35:16
long term results. It's like anything, if we want
35:20
it to stick, anything we want to move into and make part of our
35:26
daily being. It takes practice and time to
35:28
retrain yourself how to exist that way and be intentional
35:33
about it. Yeah, and that was one of the
35:36
things when I saw your podcast, I was like, this is really
35:38
interesting. It's not just about a sound
35:40
bite. It's like a kind of really
35:43
creative way to get to know people.
35:45
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you for that.
35:47
And yeah. And I think and how this fits
35:49
into all of that, I think is so aligned and it's such a, you
35:53
know, such a good perspective, unique perspective.
35:56
And I think it needs to be talked about more because
35:59
there's just these, there's so many different things out there.
36:03
I mean, I can't tell you how many times in my life I've been
36:06
told Patricia, even like by people that are well meaning,
36:10
even in like like a fitness program that I utilize is very
36:14
well mean, but it will talk about that.
36:16
And I'm like, and I now that I know you, I'm like, that's not
36:18
what Lindsay. Said Pervasive.
36:22
And I recently started working with the group of people who who
36:27
run Pilates teacher training in Montreal.
36:30
To. It's like this, this other step,
36:32
they're teaching them the poses and the movements and how to
36:35
teach other people. And I'm helping them see the
36:38
habits that can sneak in there, that can keep you from doing
36:41
them the way it's intended. And, and how to how to cue
36:45
people better and how to be aware of their own bodies better
36:47
as the teachers and like set in tone for their class when they
36:51
come in. Yeah, and not just if
36:53
everybody's staring at the. Thumbs, right?
36:56
Oh, I love that so much. That's so good.
36:58
Thank you so much for that. When did you decide?
37:01
And I would have to say, you know, the important, the
37:03
importance of setting and coming back to your why and your values
37:07
and everything you do. How much of A role did that play
37:10
in these decisions you made to just not only embody this in
37:14
your own life, but share it with other people?
37:18
Well, so when I decided that I was going to train to become a
37:23
certified Alexander Technique teacher, I really didn't know
37:28
what that was going to be like. All I knew was it was three
37:31
years. It was five days a week.
37:34
And I was like, I get to do this five days a week.
37:37
And I was like, you know, what kind of person am I going to be
37:39
after three years? I'm going to be like really
37:42
transform. I was just so I was I was so
37:45
like into it that I that I wanted to do it every day.
37:51
It's nice. People go like, what do you
37:53
mean? Like if I I have to do this
37:54
every day for three years to fix myself, right.
37:57
It wasn't like that. It was more like this is
37:59
fascinating. I've gotten so much kind of I
38:01
just want to study it every day. And so I really went in with
38:05
that with not even with the idea that I was going to help others.
38:09
So you would come back to helping others thing like I
38:11
still didn't know if I could help other people.
38:14
I was just like, I want to do this for myself.
38:16
At the time I was writing and producing and performing theater
38:20
and I was, you know, this will just help me with whatever I'm
38:23
doing. And so then as I learned it,
38:25
then I learned how to work with other people.
38:29
And the whole, it's really just the whole like dynamic of that.
38:34
The whole relationship of that was its own fascinating thing.
38:38
Yeah, I. Bet and that working with other
38:40
people. In order to work with other
38:42
people, I have to be working on myself at the same time, which I
38:45
thought was like it doesn't work it for.
38:49
That so which is so key. That's a component of how we
38:54
show up in the world and living in our healthiest, most
38:56
authentic life. Yep, Yep, exactly.
39:00
Yeah. So it was just like such AI
39:03
think a good thing for me to have to do something where I'm
39:06
like, well, it's just I have I have to show it for myself
39:09
because otherwise this won't this won't help somebody else.
39:13
Yeah. So that was how I ended up
39:19
teaching it. And I think through, I really
39:23
think it was through teaching it that I became confident that I'm
39:29
somebody who has now become centered and a good listener and
39:37
that other people can come to and talk to and that I have
39:43
something to offer. Wow.
39:46
And like that sort of has become my reality.
39:49
I would say. Still though, people tell me all
39:51
the time that I'm a good listener.
39:54
I'm always like, that's so funny.
39:56
It's like I I feel like that is a skill that I consciously
40:00
developed. I was not born that way, or
40:02
maybe I was born that way, but I did not come out that way as a
40:06
young adult. Yeah, well, and this really
40:08
allowed, this opened such a door for you.
40:10
This really allowed you to tap into yourself and, and really
40:14
live the way you were intended to live.
40:16
And, and, and that and to expand into that, too.
40:20
I think that's so, yeah, so important.
40:22
Going a little different direction.
40:24
You mentioned earlier you, you and your partner lived in
40:26
separate cities for years. You lived in New York.
40:29
You made the conscious decision to go to Montreal to have your
40:33
have your family there. And so I think your why and your
40:36
values for that piece had to really pour into that too.
40:39
You really had to look at OK, or my life or how I show up in the
40:43
world or this relationship. What are my why, what are my
40:46
values? And how's that going to inform
40:48
these decisions we make? Together.
40:52
Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, in terms of that, I
40:56
think I had lived in New York for probably about a total of 20
41:01
years at that point. And, and I was tired of living
41:03
in New York. I was very happy about the idea
41:06
of moving. Another thing, which I don't
41:09
know if it has to do with self-awareness, but I, I had
41:15
lived in France as a young adult.
41:16
I had learned French. I had no use for it in New York.
41:19
And I was like, I, I love languages.
41:21
I just, I mean, yeah, I guess it's like knowing myself, I love
41:23
languages. I actually think it's a way to
41:26
look at proving myself wrong to to get to know your own, how
41:30
your own mind works and how other people's minds work.
41:33
Because you get into another language, you see how like
41:37
different people who speak different languages and
41:39
different cultures are actually thinking and perceiving things
41:41
differently. Yeah.
41:44
It's very fascinating. It was a language.
41:48
I made a lot of friends with it as a young adult that I just
41:52
been important to me. So I was, I was very excited
41:56
actually to move to Montreal to get to be back into a French
42:02
speaking environment or bilingual environment.
42:04
So that. Was fun and yeah, I was happy to
42:09
leave New York. Yeah.
42:11
Well, yeah. They had to adapt.
42:13
They were a little like more culture shock than I was.
42:16
Yeah, yeah. But also too, you taught them
42:19
the ability to to experience new things and that you can, you can
42:24
adapt with change and learn and grow from it too.
42:27
I mean, I think that's, but I'd love that you were able to tap
42:30
back into that value of, of being bilingual in the language
42:35
and what you can learn from that that you probably didn't see
42:37
coming 2025 years ago, but now you that your life brought you
42:42
back to that. Yeah, yeah.
42:45
So. So that was definitely A+.
42:48
And then it sort of became interesting that, you know, I
42:52
didn't feel like it was a big culture shock, but there were
42:54
some like differences and some things I couldn't quite put my
42:57
finger on. It like took me a couple years
43:00
to figure out like that made me feel a little like an outsider.
43:04
So I had to sort of like that, but it didn't become like, oh
43:07
God, this is such a bummer. It was just kind of like, huh, I
43:11
want to, I want to know more about that.
43:13
It could be frustrating but I sort of figuring out how do I
43:17
fit into whatever whatever this is here.
43:20
Yeah, which is really. Probably where your curiosity
43:23
served you exactly. Yeah, yeah.
43:26
Yeah, 100%. Well, that goes really nicely
43:29
into living out of our own expectations versus others
43:33
expectations. You, you do that today.
43:37
But that's that's what you know, talk to me about your experience
43:40
and journey with that. Piece I think, you know, again,
43:48
this being able to sense myself more clearly and my own reaction
43:54
and emotions. And you know, I catch myself
43:59
like I catch myself seeing like, Oh, if I don't do this, this
44:03
person might be disappointed or like doing something like
44:06
because, you know, and then in relationships there's give and
44:11
take as well, right? So I often feel like there's a
44:14
fine line and, and sometimes I think I don't make, I'm like,
44:18
Oh, that wasn't the most aligned decision.
44:22
We all do that, or sometimes. You I think I'm making the
44:25
aligned decision and then I go like, oh, there was this I
44:28
didn't know about. Yeah, yeah.
44:31
So, yeah, I, I think that that's, it's just sort of a
44:35
process and I do, I do the best that I can with the skills I
44:38
have. And I think the skills I have
44:39
are much better than I they used to be.
44:42
Yeah, I think you mentioned that this is just the fact that
44:46
you're able to notice it when it is out of alignment tells me
44:49
that you're in alignment, if that makes sense.
44:51
I mean, because not in alignment, then you don't notice
44:55
that you just continue to go. Whereas when you are, you're
44:57
like, OK, lesson learned, so better next time.
45:02
Yeah, I think. That makes a lot of.
45:04
Sense all right. Yeah, go ahead.
45:06
Yo, no, you go ahead. Oh, I was just.
45:08
Going to say, I think one thing that is probably one of my, has
45:11
become one of my strengths is that I'm willing to try things.
45:14
And if they, you know, if they don't, if it doesn't work out,
45:18
I'm just sort of like, OK, well, on to the next thing.
45:22
Like I might like with my business, I might propose a
45:24
workshop and you know, this one's full, but this one nobody
45:28
signs up for. And then I'm like, OK, well, you
45:30
know, that's sort of what happens.
45:31
And I it's not, not a big deal. Yeah.
45:34
And now, you know, you like, you don't have to wonder because you
45:37
try, you know, I think there's a lot of.
45:40
Yeah, I like that. And I've learned to do that,
45:42
too. It's like what happens if I do
45:44
it and it doesn't work? Well, then I know if I don't try
45:46
it, I'll never know. Yeah.
45:48
Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
45:49
OK. Talk to me about accepting the
45:52
layered aspects of yourself, all those pieces and parts of your
45:56
journey that make up who you are.
45:58
Some we love, some we don't. But I feel like I when I work
46:02
with women and groups of women in person and in our online
46:05
course, I start here because it's like without knowing how to
46:10
accept who you are and accept all those pieces and parts of
46:13
your journey without removing the shame and giving room for
46:16
everything to breathe and approaching with curiosity
46:20
instead of judgment, it's going to be really hard for you to
46:23
move forward. To see your value, to prioritize
46:26
yourself, to know what your why and values are, to know where to
46:29
set those healthy boundaries, to know what those expectations are
46:34
and the need to communicate those really starts with that
46:37
layers journey piece. Talk to me about your layers
46:40
journey and learning to accept and acknowledge and and and be
46:45
open to all those parts of yourself.
46:48
Yeah, I think being asked that question the the introvert
46:53
layer, I think that's the one that probably comes up the most
46:56
and that I had to sort of most consciously think about.
47:00
Because sometimes I get into, you know, situations where
47:05
there's a group of a bunch of people talking and I'll start to
47:08
get that feeling like I do something.
47:10
I could stay here, but I, I feel a little bit invisible.
47:15
I feel like I don't know where to jump in or like people are
47:18
giving me the room and, and often I'll just, I'll, I'll sort
47:24
of just notice in myself that sort of energetically I'm a
47:28
little bit like I'm a little low energy at that moment.
47:32
I'll be like, maybe, well, maybe it's OK to be invisible right
47:34
now. Like I don't, I don't feel like
47:37
outputting right now. So fine, yeah, I'll just.
47:41
And then sometimes I can feel like I, I come into an
47:43
environment and, and there's a lot of energy there.
47:45
And I'm with that and I, I, I feel like people are totally
47:49
with me, totally listening and that I can get a word in.
47:54
Yeah. I think that that really being
47:58
conscious in that way and taking responsibility for myself, it
48:01
just helps me get out of this kind of insecurity I had about
48:07
like not being listened to, not being able to speak up in
48:11
groups. It's just like, well, you know,
48:12
sometimes I feel like I'm really, I'm really present in
48:15
there and can jump into the flow of conversation and sometimes I
48:18
don't and that's OK. And if I don't, I could just sit
48:20
there and listen or or maybe I just don't want to be in that
48:24
right now, like can do something else.
48:27
Yeah, yeah, I love how you the ability to like, not feel like
48:31
you got to force yourself. I mean, if it doesn't feel right
48:36
or aligned or, you know, or the, or the energy isn't there, we
48:39
don't have to force ourselves. I mean, I think sometimes we put
48:42
a lot of pressure on ourselves to be on all the time.
48:46
Yeah, it's OK if we're not on all the time.
48:49
It's it's also, I mean, it's an interesting cultural thing too,
48:53
because not, not every culture values being like, really, yeah,
49:00
like I want to say extra, but I don't because there's nothing
49:02
wrong with being extroverted as you sure, right.
49:05
You can be very genuine, very connected and extroverted.
49:10
But there's this thing about like, having to put out a lot of
49:13
energy. Yeah.
49:15
Kind of like in in your face and like if you're not like you're
49:19
not like go get them, you're not moving up.
49:24
I was. Teaching in Japan for three
49:27
weeks in 2019. And I was feeling like this is
49:30
like an introvert stream. I feel like it's not what's
49:35
valued here. Yeah, not value.
49:38
And it was also, it was interesting teaching there,
49:41
teaching a group and that everyone kind of just like was
49:44
really attentive. Like they didn't say a lot, but
49:47
they were super with me and attentive.
49:49
And then at the end they asked really thought provoking
49:52
questions. So they were kind of like really
49:54
listening, really gathering information and then asked
49:57
really amazing questions at the end.
49:59
And I'm not, I'm not judging or criticizing people jumping in
50:02
with questions or other like really hit me how cultures value
50:08
different behaviors differently. Yeah, that's such a good point
50:13
and a reminder there's multiple ways to be and taking the right
50:18
wrong off of it and just allowing the nuance of all the
50:23
different cultures and the value they each bring to the table.
50:28
Yeah. And I, I love, I love being
50:30
around people who just like they're right there with the
50:33
energy because it brings my energy up too.
50:35
Like if I tend, if I tend to be a little bit like I'm in my
50:39
taking things in, it brings me into another sort of state,
50:43
which I like as well. And sometimes I need.
50:46
Sure, sure. Oh, thank you so much for that.
50:48
That was so good. All right, in summary, in living
50:52
out feel, finding empowerment, embracing layers, the name of
50:56
this podcast, talk to me about the impact doing that has done
51:01
for your relationship with yourself as well as your
51:05
relationship with other people. So I think that the
51:12
relationship, well, the relationship with myself is
51:14
knowing, knowing more clearly what I need moment to moment or
51:20
understanding what's happening with me, which makes me feel in
51:24
charge of myself, like in command, not just like, like,
51:29
you know, the world happens to me, which is how I feel, which
51:34
then makes me be able to actually take in and be like,
51:38
really present with other people and notice them as themselves
51:44
and whatever they're going through and that it's not me.
51:47
Quick story, I have an example. Yeah, Yeah.
51:50
I think I was like in my early mid 20s, I, I had this job at a
51:58
tech company. It was what I think it was
52:00
training to become an Alexander Technique instructor.
52:04
And there was one of the managers in the office who just
52:08
always seemed really stressed. And my reaction to that was if
52:12
it really intimidated, I was admin and she like, she sort of
52:16
wanted something for me. If I saw her coming, I'd be sort
52:18
of like, like there would be this very physical reaction.
52:22
And one day I saw her coming toward me.
52:24
I could see that she was stressed.
52:26
And there was just something that went like, wait, you're
52:29
here, she's there. That's not you.
52:31
And. He needs help with something and
52:34
how are you going to help her if you go into her like sort of
52:38
righteous energy? So I just stayed in myself and
52:42
calm and I was able to listen and respond.
52:46
I was like, wow, it's never happened to me before.
52:51
Those like really aha moments. It was fabulous.
52:54
And she's somebody who actually ended up becoming my client
52:57
later and we became friends. It was, it was, it was cool.
53:00
But and I always remembered that that was my sort of first
53:03
reaction to her and that I had that that big aha moment.
53:07
Wow, that's such a good example. Oh my gosh.
53:10
And just being aware of that, my wait a minute here.
53:13
Oh my gosh, thank you so much for that.
53:14
So good. All right, as we wind down here,
53:19
talk to me about 5 activities that nourish you all.
53:22
Right, I'm gonna I wrote this down.
53:23
I'm gonna have to look at them. OK OK, so the first one is sort
53:28
of like something I do ongoing, but it's applying these skills
53:32
I've learned through all the years I've had studying
53:36
Alexander technique just to my day-to-day, which is what my to.
53:40
It's not just like you set aside time to do these five exercises
53:44
is that you're really conscious and not just mindful, but
53:47
conscious in a very specific way as doing things.
53:51
So that's something that I use. I use it all the time.
53:55
And. People go, isn't that annoying?
53:58
And I'm like, no, because I've practiced.
53:59
So it's like like I can hear the fan on in the back of my room
54:03
and I like, oh, I hear that louder because I'm paying
54:05
attention to it. Or I turn the volume down.
54:07
So I kind of turn the volume up and down on that awareness.
54:11
Sure. So it's just, it's very, it's
54:13
very helpful. The others are I really enjoy
54:18
running and it's something my husband does a lot of and we do
54:22
it together, which is fun. I love being in a darkroom like
54:27
photography, darkroom like old school photography.
54:30
Yeah, I. Used to do a lot of and I, I
54:33
have gotten back into it in the past few years and it's like my
54:37
sort of Zen space. I love that.
54:41
And let's see, I like going out with my husband and sharing a
54:46
meal and chatting and I enjoy drinking coffee and staring out
54:52
the window. I love in the morning.
54:56
It's just to like kind of find a place where I have a view a
54:58
little bit far and just like coffee and kind of.
55:04
That sounds. Very meditative.
55:06
It is very it's like meditative with your eyes open.
55:09
Yeah, I love that. Oh, that's so good.
55:12
All right, 5 words on how you want to feel the next six
55:15
months. The main thing is to feel more
55:19
expanded. So I'm talking about being
55:22
expanded but like I feel quite centered and grounded and I want
55:26
to have more of a sense of expansion.
55:29
So like 1 would be expanded and another would be like sort of
55:38
not, but like not way of being present, but sort of like not
55:43
like I'm reaching for things. Yeah.
55:47
Not chasing, not chasing. Yeah.
55:52
Because I think I've gotten like played around with different
55:55
ways of being organized and like, I'm going to this and
55:58
this. And then sometimes it's like the
56:01
organizational practices I try to implement end up stressing me
56:04
out. So I'm like, when you get
56:06
stressed out, I will get done when I get done.
56:09
And so that would bring me to the next thing, which would be
56:13
just be consistent. Yeah, yeah.
56:17
I think that's so such it's hard to do, but when but it it
56:22
sounds, you know, it's like I'm going to be more consistent.
56:24
And then you look at and I'm not going to chase and I'm going to
56:27
and then you're like, you look, then you look at your calendar
56:29
like, oh, OK, well, in order to actually honor that, we need to
56:34
do some rearranging here because some things all fall into that
56:38
category. I know.
56:39
I know. And then it's like, I think I'm
56:41
working with my actual schedule and I'm just like, yeah, or like
56:45
this thing, I'm like, I'm going to do this, but like there's
56:47
something I'm like, I really don't want to do that.
56:50
Yeah. How would I make it so I want
56:53
to? So yeah, I'm, I'm just trying to
56:57
be more like a little more chill about all that.
57:01
Like as long as I'm consistent, that's the point.
57:04
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So good, so good.
57:08
All right, do I need to do 2 more or is that good?
57:12
You can do two more. If you've got two more, do two
57:14
more. I didn't need to cut you up, no.
57:15
No, that's OK. I was like tonight for you.
57:18
So the other thing is just to be a bit more understanding.
57:23
I think of like family and more collaborative in general.
57:29
I think that that's something I can develop further.
57:32
Yeah, yeah. So good.
57:35
You made. You've made me think about those
57:36
things now, too. I love it when I talked at these
57:38
conversations and people say things and I'm like, oh, yeah,
57:42
me too. I think I want to think I need
57:45
to dive more into that. So it's always bringing these
57:47
things to life. Thank you so much for that.
57:51
Tell people, and this will all be on our resources page, but
57:54
tell people where they can find you and follow you.
57:57
And by the time this episode drops, you will have had, you
58:00
will have developed something else that's going to be
58:02
available soon as well. So talk about all of those
58:07
things. And then of course, it will be
58:08
on our website at embracinglayers.com on the
58:11
resource page as well. OK.
58:13
Sure. So you can visit my website,
58:16
which is my name with you. If you need to look out, it's
58:20
spelled. You can just look on the show
58:21
notes, right? But I'll spell it.
58:22
It's Lindsay. That's with an A.
58:24
So it's Lindsay Neuter, NEWITTE, r.com and if you visit my
58:36
website, you will see that there is a free training there.
58:41
So if you want a little bit of an insight into how to establish
58:47
some of this, you know, better body awareness in a really
58:51
specific way, not just like there's my body, but you will
58:55
get that in the free training center.
59:00
And so the event that I was talking about that coming up in
59:09
early 2026, right at the beginning of the year is a, an 8
59:14
week online course. So I work 10% and I work online.
59:18
This one is online, it's accessible from anywhere in the
59:21
world and it's a course for women that helps.
59:26
It's called Interact with impact, and it helps exactly
59:30
that. It helps you to stay with
59:33
yourself while you're interacting with other people.
59:36
And a lot of cleaning work is very foundational about just
59:38
getting this very clear sense of being in your body.
59:41
And then we look at how you take that into your relation with
59:46
other people in situations that might trigger you to get out of
59:49
that. And really the goal is to help
59:51
you be more impactful in work and in life in a way that feels
59:55
very grounded, very, very authentic and not.
1:00:00
Yes, don't. Tell everybody.
1:00:02
To pull their shoulders. Yes, yes, yes.
1:00:06
That's your take away. I will never tell you will never
1:00:08
hear that again. Oh my gosh, I love that so much.
1:00:12
There there's information on that, of course on the, the
1:00:15
group offers a section of my website.
1:00:18
But also, if you do watch that training, there's there's
1:00:22
information on the course at the end and it tells you how to
1:00:25
register. Perfect.
1:00:27
All right, Lindsay, thank you so much for this.
1:00:29
I'm so glad we met. I'm so thankful to know about
1:00:32
this. It's it's just brought up all
1:00:33
kinds of curiosity in me and it's it's, but give us an
1:00:36
opportunity to share this with women for this thing that I'm
1:00:40
sure so many didn't realize they could tap into.
1:00:42
So thank you so much for that. I love how this this impact it
1:00:47
had on you and how it became this thing that you not only
1:00:50
were able to tap into yourself in such an authentic way, but
1:00:53
then offer that to other people as well in a way that before you
1:00:56
would have never imagined. I think that's just.
1:00:58
Such a beautiful story. It was like the opposite of what
1:01:01
I imagined, Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
1:01:03
I love that so much. Any last thing you'd like to
1:01:05
leave with our listeners today? Don't.
1:01:10
I would say don't. If you think something isn't
1:01:17
possible, like if you think you're a certain way, you think
1:01:20
that something isn't possible because you know, you're just
1:01:24
that way. Or like some people are born
1:01:28
like, you know, with that special charismatic something.
1:01:32
That's not me. This is all stuff that can be
1:01:38
learned. All stuff that can be learned.
1:01:40
No, I love that. Oh, thank you so much for that.
1:01:44
So good. So good.
1:01:46
All right, it's. A great podcast, thank you.
1:01:49
Oh, I appreciate that. I appreciate you being with your
1:01:51
here with me today. The way you show up in the
1:01:53
world, these resources you share, listeners, so much to
1:01:56
learn from this. I really encourage you to tap
1:01:59
into this, go to embracinglayers.com, go to our
1:02:01
resources page, tap into that, that freebie she's talking about
1:02:05
and really get in touch with yourself in a way that maybe you
1:02:07
didn't even know what's possible.
1:02:09
I, I that's going to be the way to engage that I'm going to
1:02:12
challenge you all with this week.
1:02:13
Is this tap open to this, this, this piece of you in a way that
1:02:17
maybe you haven't thought about before and see what it opens up
1:02:20
for you because you're worth it. And I think we all want to
1:02:25
encourage all of you to live in your healthiest, most authentic
1:02:28
present way. And this is just another
1:02:30
resource that can enable you to do that.
1:02:33
Lindsay, thanks again so much for your time today.
1:02:35
I appreciate you so much. Thanks, Melissa.
1:02:38
You bet All right, listeners, take good care of yourselves.
1:02:41
Thanks for being with us today on the Field Podcast and we'll
1:02:44
see you next time. Hello and thank you so much for
1:02:47
being with us today on this episode of the Field podcast.
1:02:52
If you would like more information on how you can apply
1:02:56
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1:02:59
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1:03:10
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1:03:15
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1:03:21
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1:03:23
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1:03:25
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