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- 0:00Speaker 1: My name is Natasha Bamblett. I'm a proud First Nations woman,
- 0:03Speaker 1: and I'm here to acknowledge country. Hello, beautiful friends. We
- 0:08Speaker 1: gather on the lands of the Aboriginal people. We thank, acknowledge,
- 0:13Speaker 1: and respect the Aboriginal people's land that we're gathering on today.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Take pleasure in all the land and respect all that
- 0:33Speaker 1: you see. She's On The Money podcast acknowledges culture, country,
- 0:38Speaker 1: community and connections, bringing you the tools, knowledge and resources
- 0:44Speaker 1: for you to thrive.
- 0:44Speaker 2: She's on the money. She's on the money.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Hello and welcome, my friends, to She's on the Money,
- 0:54Speaker 3: the podcast where we usually discuss all of the issues
- 0:57Speaker 3: concerning your wealth goals so that you can feel more
- 0:59Speaker 3: in control of your financial future. But on Friday Drinks,
- 1:03Speaker 3: we swap the serious money talk for some more casual
- 1:05Speaker 3: yaps with our nearest and dearest. And I am talking
- 1:08Speaker 3: about our beautiful co-hosts, Miss Bec Syed. She's the bringer
- 1:12Speaker 3: of the broke tips, someone who genuinely always stops to
- 1:15Speaker 3: appreciate the stuff that we take for granted. And asks,
- 1:19Speaker 3: to what end? Precisely when we need to hear it. And,
- 1:23Speaker 3: of course, the mystery box-obsessed, money-wins curator and baker of
- 1:28Speaker 3: quite possibly my favourite cookies in the entire world to date,
- 1:33Speaker 3: Miss Jessica Ricci.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Yay.
- 1:36Speaker 3: And I recently returned that tin to you because I
- 1:39Speaker 3: kept it for way too long.
- 1:40Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 1:41Speaker 3: And I'm just so sad that I didn't refill it
- 1:43Speaker 3: with something because I didn't have time. But I just
- 1:46Speaker 3: think if somebody lends you a container for a snack,
- 1:49Speaker 3: you should put a snack in it to return it.
- 1:50Speaker 2: That's really sweet. I love that idea.
- 1:52Speaker 3: And then she's got washing to do. Well, that's on her.
- 1:55Speaker 2: The price of a nice sweet treat is the washing.
- 1:59Speaker 3: Also, the idea of getting Jessica Ricci a sweet treat,
- 2:03Speaker 3: I just don't think we could ever meet her level.
- 2:06Speaker 3: So I'd be kind of embarrassed.
- 2:07Speaker 2: I'd be like.
- 2:08Speaker 3: Take my poverty cookies. Yeah, scary. And she'd be like, thanks,
- 2:13Speaker 3: as though like a toddler's handling her like a Play-Doh
- 2:16Speaker 3: cookie or something. That's how I think that would play out.
- 2:18Speaker 2: You can taste the love.
- 2:20Speaker 3: You can, and it tastes a lot like Play-Doh. Anyway,
- 2:23Speaker 3: welcome to today's episode where we're going to be discussing
- 2:26Speaker 3: some good old money dilemmas played straight from the she's
- 2:28Speaker 3: on the money answering machine. Personally, this week's message stresses
- 2:32Speaker 3: me out. Like, What do you mean? Someone wants to
- 2:34Speaker 3: jeopardize your first home buyer's eligibility without some sort of
- 2:37Speaker 3: equity in return. Absolutely disgraceful. That's where we're going. Things
- 2:41Speaker 3: get a little bit dramatic, but we promise there's always
- 2:44Speaker 3: something light in the mix to help you end your
- 2:46Speaker 3: week on a high. When we return from the break,
- 2:48Speaker 3: we're going to be sharing a five-star review from an OG.
- 2:51Speaker 3: So guys, don't go anywhere. Welcome back. As promised, it
- 2:58Speaker 3: is time for a five-star review. If you've ever wondered, Guys,
- 3:03Speaker 3: where do your five-star reviews come from? Well, I am
- 3:06Speaker 3: so glad you asked, my friends. We get them from
- 3:08Speaker 3: all sorts of lovely different places. We get them from Spotify.
- 3:12Speaker 3: We get them from Apple Podcasts. We get them from
- 3:14Speaker 3: your preferred app of choice. And sometimes you guys slide
- 3:17Speaker 3: into our DMs just like this week Charlie did, and
- 3:20Speaker 3: she delivered the news. Hi, girls. I just wanted to
- 3:23Speaker 3: reach out and say thank you so much for changing
- 3:26Speaker 3: my life, both personally and professionally. I've been listening since 2019.
- 3:31Speaker 3: And two weeks ago, I got my first job at
- 3:33Speaker 3: a financial advice firm as an RM, which is a
- 3:37Speaker 3: relationship manager. I'm about to start my degree to become
- 3:40Speaker 3: a financial advisor myself all because of you.
- 3:43Speaker 4: Oh, my God, it's amazing.
- 3:45Speaker 3: Isn't that the most wholesome thing ever?
- 3:47Speaker 2: And 319's an OG. OG, that's season one.
- 3:50Speaker 3: That is season one. I'm so sorry that you had
- 3:52Speaker 3: to go through that, but thank you for staying and, like,
- 3:56Speaker 3: believing that we could be better. Amazing.
- 3:58Speaker 2: And we need more women in finance, so good on you.
- 4:00Speaker 3: We do.
- 4:01Speaker 1: We do.
- 4:01Speaker 3: Charlie, you're not only technically an OG, but you are
- 4:04Speaker 3: a fully-fledged advisor, and I love that. Like, sometimes I
- 4:08Speaker 3: get called an influencer, which I hate. But if I'm
- 4:11Speaker 3: influencing you to get into a career, I'll take it.
- 4:14Speaker 2: That's a good one.
- 4:15Speaker 3: I will take it. We are so happy that you
- 4:17Speaker 3: are in our community and I just am really grateful
- 4:20Speaker 3: that you shared that review with us. Remember, it is
- 4:22Speaker 3: never too late to share your praise for our pod
- 4:26Speaker 3: in our DMs or literally anywhere. So if you've tuned
- 4:29Speaker 3: in from the start, we want to hear from you.
- 4:31Speaker 3: Please reach out, leave a review. We would love it
- 4:34Speaker 3: so much. But also there's something extra special and like super,
- 4:38Speaker 3: super sweet. When people are like, I've been here the
- 4:40Speaker 3: whole time.
- 4:41Speaker 2: I know.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Like, I love new friends, but you can't make old friends.
- 4:46Speaker 3: And I think that that's really special.
- 4:48Speaker 2: Yeah. Beautiful.
- 4:49Speaker 3: All right. Now, my friends, I know what you're thinking.
- 4:53Speaker 3: What do you guys do when you're not talking about
- 4:55Speaker 3: five-star reviews and you're not writing or thinking or yapping
- 4:58Speaker 3: about money? Well, we are obviously trawling through our Facebook
- 5:02Speaker 3: group for a decent question of the week. And this
- 5:05Speaker 3: one comes from Kim, who asks... Besides She's on the Money,
- 5:09Speaker 3: what are your top three podcasts that you regularly listen to?
- 5:12Speaker 3: I think we need to whip out our phones for
- 5:14Speaker 3: this one.
- 5:15Speaker 4: I know off the top of my head.
- 5:16Speaker 3: Oh, okay. Well, you're first. You're first.
- 5:19Speaker 4: So we've got Dane Detectives.
- 5:21Speaker 3: We've got Betrayal. Wait. Oh, you know off the top
- 5:25Speaker 3: of your head.
- 5:26Speaker 2: Surely the science one that you always talk about.
- 5:29Speaker 3: I do like science verses, but you've got to be
- 5:31Speaker 3: in the mood for learning. Oh, she doesn't. Okay, she
- 5:33Speaker 3: doesn't make the cut.
- 5:34Speaker 4: But it is like an incredible one. So definitely, definitely, definitely. Oh,
- 5:38Speaker 4: everyone has an X.
- 5:39Speaker 2: That's right.
- 5:40Speaker 4: Everyone has an X. Betrayal, everyone has an X. Dating detectives.
- 5:44Speaker 3: Okay, but sell us on them. Why those? Because that's
- 5:46Speaker 3: quite eclectic, you could say. That's true.
- 5:48Speaker 4: Well, I have just like one topic that I am
- 5:51Speaker 4: just like obsessed with and that is hearing about people's stories,
- 5:54Speaker 4: romantic or otherwise, where like someone has pretended to be
- 5:58Speaker 4: something that they're not.
- 5:59Speaker 3: So maybe like you're dating someone.
- 6:00Speaker 4: Yeah, like catfishing but dogfishing where it's like you're physically
- 6:03Speaker 4: who you say you are but you– And this is what.
- 6:06Speaker 3: Oh, it's giving Hamish, like the Who's the Hell is
- 6:08Speaker 3: Hamish series. Exactly, exactly.
- 6:09Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
- 6:10Speaker 4: And maybe they're secretly psycho or abusive and that's great
- 6:14Speaker 4: to be, you know what I mean?
- 6:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 6:16Speaker 4: All three of them kind of have this.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 6:19Speaker 3: I feel like I need to get on that because
- 6:20Speaker 3: I would be totally about that.
- 6:22Speaker 4: Oh, it's really, really, really interesting.
- 6:24Speaker 3: I feel like we're going to end up with a
- 6:25Speaker 3: completely different answer from Miss Jessica Ricci because she's not
- 6:28Speaker 3: into what we're into, Bec. True.
- 6:30Speaker 2: No. And in a deeply ironic twist of fate, I'm
- 6:34Speaker 2: not a huge podcast listener.
- 6:35Speaker 3: Which I find so funny.
- 6:37Speaker 2: Yeah, my top podcast is our podcast.
- 6:39Speaker 3: Yeah. That's so cute.
- 6:41Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not my preferred way to consume media.
- 6:43Speaker 2: So if I am going to listen to a podcast,
- 6:45Speaker 2: it's normally– we have so many friends that have cool podcasts.
- 6:47Speaker 2: Like obviously you and Indie do Cheapskates. Brooke and George
- 6:51Speaker 2: do What Would We Know. We have like Glenn James
- 6:53Speaker 2: and Emma Edwards and Friends of the Show. So if
- 6:56Speaker 2: I'm going to listen to something, I'll normally try listening
- 6:58Speaker 2: to one of our friends.
- 6:59Speaker 3: Like a friend you know.
- 6:59Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's cool to support your friends doing cool things.
- 7:02Speaker 2: That's really cute. And the same with audiobooks. Like my
- 7:04Speaker 2: boyfriend loves an audiobook and I just– I don't know
- 7:08Speaker 2: what's wrong with my brain, but I can't.
- 7:09Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with your brain.
- 7:11Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. I would rather read something. Maybe I
- 7:14Speaker 2: should try reading a podcast transcript and see how that
- 7:17Speaker 2: goes for me.
- 7:18Speaker 3: Well, they're free. They're like Apple and Spotify. If you
- 7:21Speaker 3: want the transcript of any of our podcasts, she's right
- 7:23Speaker 3: there built in now. True. I can't think of anything worse,
- 7:26Speaker 3: to be honest, Jess. If I'm going to listen to
- 7:29Speaker 3: a podcast, I'm going to be popping it in my
- 7:31Speaker 3: ears and closing my eyes.
- 7:32Speaker 2: That's fair play. I know, it's wild. Yeah, sorry. I
- 7:34Speaker 2: feel like that's a disappointing answer, but.
- 7:36Speaker 4: No.
- 7:37Speaker 3: I know Jess knows what I'm going to say.
- 7:39Speaker 2: Yes.
- 7:41Speaker 3: And I don't know if this makes me really unhinged,
- 7:45Speaker 3: but I only listen to true crime. Like I don't
- 7:48Speaker 3: listen to pop culture. I don't listen to like, sorry,
- 7:51Speaker 3: our friends' podcasts. I most definitely do not listen to
- 7:54Speaker 3: our podcasts in, again, a cruel twist of fate. No
- 7:58Speaker 3: one's voice is more annoying than my own. Yeah. It's
- 8:02Speaker 3: hard to listen to yourself for sure. It's like the
- 8:04Speaker 3: ultimate cringe and I just– I am so grateful that
- 8:08Speaker 3: this podcast took off and we could hire an editor
- 8:11Speaker 3: because I no longer have to listen to my own
- 8:13Speaker 3: voice over and over while editing content, which is, to me, ugh.
- 8:17Speaker 3: I know.
- 8:19Speaker 2: Right?
- 8:19Speaker 3: So anyway, we're true crime girlies in this house. My
- 8:23Speaker 3: top podcast would be Morbid and I'm obsessed with Morbid.
- 8:28Speaker 3: Two girls from the US run that and they've built
- 8:32Speaker 3: an entire empire around them, obsessed. The next podcast I
- 8:37Speaker 3: really like is called And like, I don't know if
- 8:40Speaker 3: it's my, you know, millennial brain, but I'm like, I
- 8:43Speaker 3: don't know why you would have picked this for a
- 8:44Speaker 3: podcast name, but you did. Two girls, one ghost. Cool.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Okay.
- 8:48Speaker 3: What's that about? Get this paranormal activity. Oh my God.
- 8:52Speaker 2: Oh, that's quite fun.
- 8:52Speaker 3: And like true crime. So it's kind of like, they're
- 8:55Speaker 3: quite funny and well nuanced. One thing I really think
- 8:58Speaker 3: is important when discussing true crime and maybe, I don't know,
- 9:04Speaker 3: For those of you playing along at home who maybe
- 9:06Speaker 3: don't know a lot about my history, I grew up
- 9:07Speaker 3: with a mother who was a coroner. And so in
- 9:11Speaker 3: grade three, I got in trouble because I went to
- 9:13Speaker 3: school and I told people that my mom cuts up
- 9:16Speaker 3: dead people. And it turns out you shouldn't say that
- 9:19Speaker 3: because the teacher didn't believe me, had to ask my mom.
- 9:23Speaker 3: And my mom's like, look, she's not wrong, but she's not.
- 9:25Speaker 3: You're right. She probably shouldn't be sharing this information with
- 9:28Speaker 3: a whole bunch of grade threes. It's probably not appropriate.
- 9:31Speaker 3: I will talk to her.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Some kids went home with nightmares.
- 9:32Speaker 3: But I think it's so important, I think, because of
- 9:34Speaker 3: that background, but also just like these true crime stories
- 9:37Speaker 3: are about genuine people.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 9:40Speaker 3: I only like true crime content that's not like super sensationalized.
- 9:44Speaker 3: I want those people to be really human to me.
- 9:46Speaker 3: And I love how both of those podcasts really like
- 9:49Speaker 3: humanize the victim and talk about them. And like, you know,
- 9:53Speaker 3: they're really respectful. And I think that that's important. And
- 9:57Speaker 3: then the next podcast, which is in the same vein.
- 10:00Speaker 3: is a podcast called Seriously. And that is, again, a
- 10:03Speaker 3: true crime podcast with a person called Annie Elise. And
- 10:07Speaker 3: she was recommended to me by Jacqueline in our team.
- 10:11Speaker 3: And Jacqueline is one of our brilliant mortgage brokers, been
- 10:14Speaker 3: on the show, but she and I both binge listen
- 10:17Speaker 3: to true crime. Like you could quiz either of us
- 10:19Speaker 3: about any kind of terrible thing that went on in
- 10:22Speaker 3: the world and we would probably know.
- 10:23Speaker 2: See, I would just be able to sleep at night.
- 10:26Speaker 3: I know.
- 10:26Speaker 2: Like Victoria will listen to it to go to sleep.
- 10:28Speaker 5: I do.
- 10:28Speaker 2: Whereas I'm like I'm not going to sleep for three
- 10:30Speaker 2: days if I have to hear all these scary details.
- 10:32Speaker 3: Yes. See, I can't fall asleep without some true crime
- 10:34Speaker 3: in my ears.
- 10:35Speaker 2: Horrifying.
- 10:36Speaker 3: Like every single night I crawl into bed and my
- 10:38Speaker 3: husband's like, are you going to put a podcast on?
- 10:41Speaker 3: And I go, yes, King. And I turn on a
- 10:43Speaker 3: murder podcast, 30-minute timer, it will turn off and both
- 10:46Speaker 3: of us fall asleep to the dulcet tones of, I
- 10:50Speaker 3: don't know, hearing about how someone used a hacksaw.
- 10:53Speaker 6: Yes.
- 10:55Speaker 3: Well, that sounds very tranquil. Thank you. It's a little
- 10:59Speaker 3: bit like, oh, what's your sleep hygiene routine? I'm like,
- 11:03Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to tell you, but
- 11:04Speaker 3: I'll tell this podcast that gets millions of listens. Hell yeah.
- 11:08Speaker 3: I guess say what you want, but I reckon more podcasts,
- 11:11Speaker 3: the better. And I'm just grateful that our community are
- 11:14Speaker 3: obsessed with money podcasts. But yeah, I do refuse to
- 11:17Speaker 3: go to sleep without some true crime in my ear.
- 11:20Speaker 2: Fair.
- 11:20Speaker 3: Anyway, Miss Jessica Ricci.
- 11:22Speaker 2: Yes.
- 11:23Speaker 3: Money wins. I've seen some good ones pop up on
- 11:25Speaker 3: my feed, but I want to know which community money
- 11:27Speaker 3: wins have you seen that have taken the cake enough
- 11:30Speaker 3: to bring to the show?
- 11:31Speaker 2: All right. Well, firstly, I'm starting off with one from
- 11:33Speaker 2: a Jessica. Excellent name.
- 11:34Speaker 3: Oh, I see why we picked. Yep.
- 11:37Speaker 2: No play favorites here. I've been very slowly building our
- 11:39Speaker 2: emergency fund. I finally hit $ 1, 000 a few days ago.
- 11:43Speaker 2: And to top off the wins, I paid off a
- 11:45Speaker 2: credit card this week as well.
- 11:47Speaker 3: Amazing. Iconic. And that feels so good. Yeah. But at
- 11:51Speaker 3: the same time, Jess, you've been in debt. Bec, you've
- 11:53Speaker 3: been in debt. Why does it feel so disappointing when
- 11:56Speaker 3: you like pay it off? There's no like streamers or
- 11:59Speaker 3: popping of champagne or like something you pay it off
- 12:02Speaker 3: and they're like, thanks. And you're like, And?
- 12:05Speaker 4: A stamp, a.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Sticker, something.
- 12:07Speaker 3: That's so true. Surely I put out the back of
- 12:10Speaker 3: my hand and you give me a smiley face stamp.
- 12:12Speaker 2: Surely. We'll petition to implement that at the big four.
- 12:16Speaker 3: But we will celebrate you. You don't need the stamp.
- 12:19Speaker 3: You've got us.
- 12:20Speaker 2: 100%. Next, I've got a money win from Anthea, who
- 12:22Speaker 2: said she sold the tablecloths and chair covers from her
- 12:25Speaker 2: wedding on Marketplace, which is already a win. Then when
- 12:28Speaker 2: the lady came to collect them, she saw that she
- 12:30Speaker 2: had chickens and asked if she had eggs to sell.
- 12:33Speaker 2: Anthea offered her a dozen for free, but the lady
- 12:36Speaker 2: refused to take them, so she gave her $ 10 and
- 12:38Speaker 2: asked to become a regular customer.
- 12:40Speaker 3: Stop it. That's so gorgeous. That's so wholesome. I know,
- 12:44Speaker 3: isn't it? Also, $ 10 for some eggs. Girl, that's a
- 12:47Speaker 3: good deal. That's a good little business you're hustling there. Yeah, 100%.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Anthea put in a photo of her eggs, and they're
- 12:52Speaker 2: very aesthetically pleasing. Oh, my God.
- 12:54Speaker 3: They're different colors.
- 12:55Speaker 2: And it seems like each chicken is laying a uniquely
- 12:57Speaker 2: colored egg. There's three distinct color. There's a bluey one,
- 13:00Speaker 2: a cream one, and I just think that's... Nature is beautiful,
- 13:03Speaker 2: isn't it?
- 13:04Speaker 3: Jess, you know my friend Angela, she has a collection
- 13:06Speaker 3: of different chickens and they all lay different color eggs
- 13:09Speaker 3: and I am quite envious.
- 13:10Speaker 2: I didn't know that was a thing.
- 13:11Speaker 4: How do they do that?
- 13:12Speaker 2: That's so cool.
- 13:12Speaker 3: I think it's just the breed. So like the outside
- 13:14Speaker 3: of the egg just has a different, it's probably got
- 13:17Speaker 3: something to do with the mineral makeup and what they
- 13:19Speaker 3: eat and whatever.
- 13:20Speaker 2: Yes, true.
- 13:20Speaker 3: But like the different breeds have different like types of eggs.
- 13:25Speaker 2: Wow. The more you know. It's kind of cool, huh?
- 13:26Speaker 3: Very cool.
- 13:27Speaker 4: It is really cool.
- 13:28Speaker 2: Next, I've got a money win from Olivia who said,
- 13:30Speaker 2: I got paid my first dividends today from investing in ETFs.
- 13:33Speaker 2: It was only a couple of dollars, but it's still
- 13:35Speaker 2: very exciting. I love that. And overall, since April, they've
- 13:38Speaker 2: increased in value by $ 65. Stop it.
- 13:40Speaker 3: Well done, Olivia.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Zana said she went to the Selvos this morning and
- 13:45Speaker 2: they had a rack that said red tags were now $ 2.
- 13:49Speaker 2: Had a little dig through, found three dresses and two tops.
- 13:52Speaker 2: At the checkout, the total would have been $ 62. $ 62.
- 13:55Speaker 2: but it came down to a cool $ 10.
- 13:58Speaker 1: Wow.
- 13:58Speaker 3: Money win.
- 13:59Speaker 2: We love a special rack at the op shop. Shuffle said,
- 14:02Speaker 2: money win. I wanted to upskill and I enrolled myself
- 14:05Speaker 2: into a cert for in marketing communications through open colleges
- 14:09Speaker 2: because they were running a 50% discount on courses.
- 14:13Speaker 3: Okay, icon.
- 14:14Speaker 2: How good. And then she said the lady she spoke with,
- 14:17Speaker 2: I'm assuming to enroll her, took an extra 500 bucks off.
- 14:19Speaker 2: So instead of paying $ 6, 150, she paid $ 2, 575. Stop it.
- 14:23Speaker 2: And she probably.
- 14:26Speaker 3: Sweet talked the lady and the lady was like, I'm
- 14:29Speaker 3: going to give you a further discount. And that's what
- 14:31Speaker 3: you get for being nice.
- 14:32Speaker 2: Exactly. Always, always, always be nice to the service people.
- 14:36Speaker 2: And then lastly this week, I've got a money win
- 14:38Speaker 2: from Stephanie who said, it was scary porting my number
- 14:41Speaker 2: over after being with the same phone company for 25 years,
- 14:45Speaker 2: but I finally did it for a better deal. Process
- 14:47Speaker 2: was very smooth. And so this pushed me to make
- 14:49Speaker 2: the switch for more things now.
- 14:51Speaker 3: I love that. And I also think it's important to
- 14:54Speaker 3: remind people that if you change phone companies, you can
- 14:57Speaker 3: keep your number.
- 14:58Speaker 2: Yes. I'm not learning a new phone number.
- 15:00Speaker 3: No, no, neither. I have had that phone number since
- 15:03Speaker 3: like teenagehood. It's just not happening. You can't pry it
- 15:07Speaker 3: from me. Like learning new strings of numbers for me,
- 15:10Speaker 3: it's just not happening.
- 15:11Speaker 6: No.
- 15:11Speaker 3: Also, same reason I can't divorce my husband because I
- 15:14Speaker 3: know his mobile number off the top of my head.
- 15:16Speaker 3: And like in this economy, who knows mobile numbers off
- 15:19Speaker 3: the top of their head?
- 15:20Speaker 2: James and I had this argument this week. He said
- 15:23Speaker 2: he knows my phone number off by heart. I don't know.
- 15:24Speaker 2: He's like, what if you get lost in the street?
- 15:26Speaker 2: I say, well, God forbid. I'm lost. I am stuck.
- 15:30Speaker 3: I am proper lost.
- 15:32Speaker 4: I'm sure there's, like, other ways.
- 15:34Speaker 2: Unless maybe, oh, I just can't imagine. I'm calling my parents'
- 15:36Speaker 2: home phone that I remember from 20 years ago. Like,
- 15:39Speaker 2: that's the only phone number I know. I know.
- 15:40Speaker 3: I think about that.
- 15:41Speaker 4: I'm like, do you have access to someone's phone, some
- 15:44Speaker 4: sort of civilization? But I just feel like you won't
- 15:46Speaker 4: need to know that number off by heart.
- 15:49Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:49Speaker 3: You know?
- 15:49Speaker 2: I'm going to have to start putting his number in
- 15:51Speaker 2: the back of my clothes.
- 15:52Speaker 3: This is something that I've been thinking of recently because,
- 15:56Speaker 3: I mean, I only have a two-year-old. But, like, he
- 15:59Speaker 3: started going and staying at his grandma's house for the
- 16:01Speaker 3: day on Fridays and stuff like that. And, like, I
- 16:04Speaker 3: obviously call her. But at what point does he need
- 16:07Speaker 3: to call me? Does he have to ask someone for
- 16:09Speaker 3: a phone that has my number? Will he ever know
- 16:11Speaker 3: my phone number? Like, I know my parents' mobile numbers.
- 16:14Speaker 3: I know my parents', like, landline number off by heart.
- 16:18Speaker 3: But at what point do you learn your parents' mobile numbers?
- 16:22Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 16:23Speaker 3: And what are people doing about this? And also there's
- 16:25Speaker 3: just like a lot of layers there. I don't think
- 16:28Speaker 3: I'm comfortable with my kid having an iPhone. What are
- 16:30Speaker 3: we doing? Yeah. Like he's only two, but he handed
- 16:33Speaker 3: me my phone literally yesterday and goes, call Harriet. And
- 16:38Speaker 3: I was like, sure. But like he's already asking to
- 16:41Speaker 3: call his mates. Yeah.
- 16:43Speaker 1: So.
- 16:44Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, true.
- 16:46Speaker 2: Hard to navigate in this day and age.
- 16:47Speaker 4: Well, exactly right.
- 16:48Speaker 3: I'm just going to lead him to believe that the
- 16:51Speaker 3: internet doesn't exist.
- 16:53Speaker 2: Kids need... Leashes.
- 16:54Speaker 3: Do you know people put that on their kids? There
- 16:56Speaker 3: had to be like a thing go out at daycare
- 16:58Speaker 3: a little while ago. Side note, because people were putting
- 17:01Speaker 3: like air tags in their kids' stuff, but then they
- 17:03Speaker 3: made all of the daycare workers' phones beep all day
- 17:06Speaker 3: because an air tag was following them. So they were like, hey, like...
- 17:09Speaker 3: What can we do about this situation?
- 17:12Speaker 4: Right.
- 17:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen, like, shoes.
- 17:14Speaker 3: They're like, we don't care that you've got it. But, like,
- 17:17Speaker 3: what's going on? I would like to. Freely follow my
- 17:20Speaker 3: child's location without everyone's phone going off. A hundred percent.
- 17:23Speaker 3: But what are we doing in that situation? Because it's
- 17:25Speaker 3: actually unethical to like be able to slip an air
- 17:28Speaker 3: tag in your back pocket and you don't know. And
- 17:31Speaker 3: then the air tag follows you. Like there's just so
- 17:34Speaker 3: many complications there. Oh, yeah, I see. Because you and
- 17:36Speaker 3: I are quite wholesome. We immediately go, well, that's a
- 17:38Speaker 3: good idea.
- 17:39Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 17:40Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 17:41Speaker 3: But there are people who are not very kind. Like
- 17:43Speaker 3: what if you put it in your ex's car, you know?
- 17:45Speaker 4: Yeah, okay.
- 17:47Speaker 3: And obviously that would get used in not so good situations. Totally.
- 17:51Speaker 3: So like it's good that it notifies you, but like
- 17:54Speaker 3: you can't send your kid to daycare with one.
- 17:57Speaker 2: Yes.
- 17:57Speaker 3: Okay. No, that's true, actually.
- 17:59Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess we didn't think about it because we
- 18:01Speaker 4: have pure intentions.
- 18:02Speaker 3: That's because you wouldn't do it. But no, sorry, collar
- 18:05Speaker 3: with the little, what's this thing called? A name tag.
- 18:08Speaker 4: A tag with your mum or your.
- 18:11Speaker 3: Dad's number on it.
- 18:12Speaker 2: That's so funny.
- 18:13Speaker 3: Isn't that so cute? I think that's cute, but I'm
- 18:15Speaker 3: not going to put a collar on my child. Maybe
- 18:18Speaker 3: if we go somewhere, I might put like a wristband
- 18:20Speaker 3: or something. A wristband.
- 18:21Speaker 2: There you go.
- 18:22Speaker 3: With my number. Look, I haven't thought about this enough.
- 18:25Speaker 3: And to be honest, when I do start thinking about it,
- 18:27Speaker 3: I get scared. So, great tips. What have you got? Oh, yes,
- 18:30Speaker 3: of course. I have, as always, two from the community.
- 18:34Speaker 3: One from myself.
- 18:35Speaker 4: This first one comes from Radi, who says, Welcome app offers...
- 18:39Speaker 4: Some petrol stations offer welcome offers when you download the app.
- 18:42Speaker 4: Five cents off per litre, for example. Other benefits as well,
- 18:46Speaker 4: but the cents off per litre make it so worth it, which.
- 18:49Speaker 3: I think is a great idea. Ampol, I think, and yeah,
- 18:52Speaker 3: some others. BP do it. Yeah, BP. Jess and I
- 18:57Speaker 3: got free coffee the other day because of BP.
- 18:59Speaker 2: There you go.
- 19:00Speaker 4: I'm like, I need to get on these petrol station apps.
- 19:03Speaker 3: Jess and I are on this.
- 19:04Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 19:05Speaker 4: This next one comes from Jean, who says, if you're
- 19:07Speaker 4: a chat GPT user, you can tell it where you're
- 19:09Speaker 4: going and ask for it to find the cheapest or
- 19:12Speaker 4: free parking close by.
- 19:13Speaker 3: And it generally is quite helpful. Isn't that a great idea?
- 19:16Speaker 3: That's actually quite smart. Maybe you could use that instead
- 19:19Speaker 3: of parking in 15 minutes. It finds me specks, I had.
- 19:24Speaker 2: Totally adept.
- 19:25Speaker 3: Did you see that coming? I actually did it and
- 19:27Speaker 3: I should have.
- 19:28Speaker 4: It is a very car heavy brogue tip theme this week.
- 19:34Speaker 4: My one is, L-M-C-T plus petrol stations.
- 19:37Speaker 3: Have you guys seen these? Yes. I can't get in.
- 19:39Speaker 3: It's so annoying because you need to be a member. No,
- 19:41Speaker 3: you give me the ick. This is giving multi-level marketing
- 19:45Speaker 3: more on the internet. This can't be your broke tip, Bec.
- 19:48Speaker 4: I just thought it was because I drank past you
- 19:50Speaker 4: because I like, you know, you're on Petrel Spy. So
- 19:53Speaker 4: I like drove like 10 minutes to go find the
- 19:55Speaker 4: cheapest petrol, which happened to be this.
- 19:57Speaker 3: Become a member.
- 19:58Speaker 2: One.
- 19:58Speaker 3: Get good at gambling. Well, I was going to say.
- 20:00Speaker 3: Is that right?
- 20:01Speaker 2: I read an article recently that said it looks there's
- 20:05Speaker 2: discussions that it might be outlawed because they're basically dressing up.
- 20:09Speaker 2: gambling as a subscription model.
- 20:12Speaker 3: It's a gambling subscription model. Like at the end of
- 20:15Speaker 3: the day, don't get me wrong. Like me as a
- 20:17Speaker 3: business person, right? Like I've got two minds. I've got
- 20:20Speaker 3: what's good for our community. And then I go, oh,
- 20:22Speaker 3: I love looking at an interesting business model and generating revenue.
- 20:25Speaker 3: So if I put that hat on, I'm like far out.
- 20:28Speaker 3: Subscription models are so smart because you're kind of locking
- 20:31Speaker 3: people in to an ongoing fee per month and People
- 20:36Speaker 3: are inherently lazy, very unlikely for them to unsubscribe. You're
- 20:39Speaker 3: probably going to get more money out of them. Great. Fine.
- 20:42Speaker 3: You're also like giving them a price point at which
- 20:45Speaker 3: they're usually pretty comfortable to miss out on. But you're
- 20:49Speaker 3: saying you could win X amount of dollars each and
- 20:51Speaker 3: every single month. And if you're a member, you go
- 20:53Speaker 3: into the like raffle or, you know, the lottery or
- 20:56Speaker 3: whatever it is, and they will justify it and compare
- 20:59Speaker 3: this lottery to other lotteries and your ability to you know,
- 21:03Speaker 3: win in other lotteries. They're like, this one's way better.
- 21:06Speaker 3: Like the chances are so high. And they really showcase
- 21:09Speaker 3: the people that do win because it's a legitimate lottery.
- 21:11Speaker 2: Right.
- 21:12Speaker 3: So like, you know, if Jess won, they would make
- 21:14Speaker 3: sure that in the terms and conditions of signing up,
- 21:18Speaker 3: Jess has signed away her life basically so that she
- 21:21Speaker 3: can be paraded around social media to be like, look, Jess,
- 21:25Speaker 3: this real person won all this money and all this petrol.
- 21:29Speaker 3: And oh, my God. And Jess is going to be
- 21:31Speaker 3: excited because like if Jess wins stuff, you're like, Jess
- 21:34Speaker 3: looks like me. This becomes really like approachable. Maybe I
- 21:39Speaker 3: do want to be in this community. And like it's
- 21:41Speaker 3: led by someone that people want to be like, so
- 21:43Speaker 3: it's quite aspirational in nature.
- 21:45Speaker 2: Totally.
- 21:46Speaker 3: So you see this whole thing and then he's like,
- 21:48Speaker 3: I'm going to do a petrol station because, you know what,
- 21:51Speaker 3: I'm a really good guy and I think petrol is
- 21:55Speaker 3: so expensive and I want it to be better for you.
- 21:57Speaker 3: And you go, yeah, I'm the common person. I love this.
- 22:01Speaker 3: And the reality is he's making way more than any
- 22:05Speaker 3: other petrol station would be because you have to be
- 22:07Speaker 3: a member. You have to subscribe. He's giving you, quote,
- 22:10Speaker 3: cheap petrol at what cost. There's so much hidden stuff.
- 22:14Speaker 3: Like he's making more money per litre on that petrol,
- 22:17Speaker 3: I promise you. than any other petrol station in the country.
- 22:21Speaker 2: Or even if it's loss leading, it would be leading
- 22:23Speaker 2: people into, I guess, that gambling because that's the space
- 22:27Speaker 2: that he primarily plays in. So I'm not super familiar
- 22:30Speaker 2: with the model of the fuel and how it works.
- 22:32Speaker 3: I've also been watching the TikTok drama because there's another
- 22:35Speaker 3: business that has replicated this business completely. It's stupid. So
- 22:39Speaker 3: like me talking completely different, but I think people will
- 22:42Speaker 3: find this interesting. They didn't even try. Like their marketing,
- 22:46Speaker 3: their branding. It's like they put this brand into AI
- 22:49Speaker 3: and said, do you put like 5% different?
- 22:52Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 22:52Speaker 3: Because there's nothing that like the colors are the same.
- 22:55Speaker 2: The business model isn't protected legally. Like anyone could run
- 22:59Speaker 2: the same business model.
- 23:00Speaker 3: 100%. But that's not what they're copying. They're copying their marketing,
- 23:03Speaker 3: their branding. Their name is semi-similar to the point where
- 23:06Speaker 3: their consumers are getting confused between the two brands. Like
- 23:09Speaker 3: it's actually psychotic. But I'm not letting you be that.
- 23:14Speaker 3: I'm not letting you have that as a broke tip
- 23:16Speaker 3: because yes, cheap petrol is really good. But from my perspective,
- 23:21Speaker 3: when I then put my community hat on, that is
- 23:24Speaker 3: so predatory. It is not good for our community. And
- 23:28Speaker 3: I'm so happy for all of this conversation that I'm
- 23:30Speaker 3: having to be on the podcast because it is what
- 23:32Speaker 3: it is. It's my opinion. It's, you know, other people
- 23:34Speaker 3: might say, oh, like, but I really like it. Pop off, queen.
- 23:38Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it is gambling.
- 23:40Speaker 3: Gambling is addictive. Gambling is negative for your financial future.
- 23:44Speaker 3: It doesn't put you in a better situation. And yes,
- 23:47Speaker 3: your quote odds might be better, but like we're appealing
- 23:50Speaker 3: to an audience who also don't understand investing and also
- 23:54Speaker 3: don't probably have emergency funds or have $ 500 to pull
- 23:58Speaker 3: on in an emergency. And they're lulled into this false
- 24:01Speaker 3: sense of security because petrol will be cheaper and we
- 24:04Speaker 3: are in the middle of a cost of living crisis
- 24:06Speaker 3: and That's good, right?
- 24:08Speaker 4: This is actually very good and still like a broke
- 24:10Speaker 4: tip in a way because if you're anything like me
- 24:12Speaker 4: and like because you know LMCT or maybe you do,
- 24:15Speaker 4: maybe you don't.
- 24:15Speaker 3: You've seen it all over socials. It's everywhere.
- 24:17Speaker 4: And then if you see the petrol station, you might
- 24:18Speaker 4: be like, oh, my God, it's actually a pretty good deal.
- 24:21Speaker 4: But then so I guess the takeaway from this is
- 24:25Speaker 4: if you are anything like me and see an LMCT
- 24:28Speaker 4: plus petrol station, think twice and don't just like fall
- 24:32Speaker 4: for it like I have and would have.
- 24:36Speaker 2: So that's really good membership no.
- 24:39Speaker 4: But I thought it was a really good deal okay
- 24:41Speaker 4: and so I'm like.
- 24:42Speaker 3: I totally get that and that's what their plan is
- 24:45Speaker 3: yes and you know what for some people and like
- 24:47Speaker 3: these people will exist someone listening to my show I
- 24:50Speaker 3: hope not to be honest someone listening to my show
- 24:53Speaker 3: might be sitting in their car right now going V
- 24:57Speaker 3: I do this I really like the subscription I'm I
- 24:59Speaker 3: get the cheap petrol financially. For me, this is actually
- 25:02Speaker 3: a good idea. And I'm not denying that those people
- 25:04Speaker 3: might exist. But inherently, this is a terrible financial decision
- 25:11Speaker 3: because it's lulling you into a false sense of financial
- 25:14Speaker 3: security when you probably don't have the rest of your
- 25:16Speaker 3: financial house sorted. Like you're being lulled into this false
- 25:20Speaker 3: sense of security that you might win a heap of
- 25:22Speaker 3: money as well, Bec. And then you're five months into
- 25:26Speaker 3: this subscription and you're like, not won anything and it's
- 25:29Speaker 3: not benefiting me and I really need to do my
- 25:30Speaker 3: budget but it's kind of like a lost leader you're
- 25:34Speaker 3: like but what if next month is the month I
- 25:36Speaker 3: win so you don't cancel your subscription this man from
- 25:41Speaker 3: a business perspective is a genius he's making so much money.
- 25:45Speaker 2: Even the house lottery, like anecdotally, sorry, we're fully derailing
- 25:49Speaker 2: this conversation.
- 25:49Speaker 3: No, no, no, but I think it's an important conversation
- 25:51Speaker 3: to have, Jess.
- 25:52Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know they do the house lottery every year.
- 25:54Speaker 2: It's like you can win a da-da-da-da, whatever, the block
- 25:56Speaker 2: houses or whatever he's got going at the time. And
- 25:58Speaker 2: like our group of friends, someone was like, oh, do
- 26:00Speaker 2: we all want to pull in? And I was like, whatever,
- 26:03Speaker 2: if everyone puts in, sure, I'll kick whatever in. And
- 26:06Speaker 2: someone was like, do we go for the like the
- 26:09Speaker 2: $ 600 one where it's like, and I was like.
- 26:12Speaker 3: On what planet?
- 26:13Speaker 2: I was like, I'll kick 20 bucks in like with
- 26:16Speaker 2: the full knowledge that I'm not getting that 20 bucks back.
- 26:18Speaker 2: But like, fine, it's a little bit of fun. We
- 26:20Speaker 2: all can dream and go, well, you know, if we
- 26:22Speaker 2: win the holiday house, we get all going, whatever. And
- 26:24Speaker 2: that's what it is, right? Because it's like the more
- 26:26Speaker 2: expensive version, you get lots more entries or however it works.
- 26:31Speaker 2: And that's how they get you. And it's like I've
- 26:33Speaker 2: seen that anecdotally just in my own life. Yeah. And
- 26:36Speaker 2: so I can only imagine how, you know, and I
- 26:38Speaker 2: was the one who was like, guys, like we will
- 26:41Speaker 2: not be participating and I think everybody else should think
- 26:43Speaker 2: about whether or not that's worth participating in. Do what
- 26:45Speaker 2: you want with your own money, but just like have
- 26:46Speaker 2: a little think.
- 26:48Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 26:48Speaker 2: If it happens to me, I'm sure it would happen,
- 26:50Speaker 2: like it would happen to anybody.
- 26:51Speaker 3: It lets you sell critical thinking hats. Like I think
- 26:54Speaker 3: a lot of people just see it and go, that
- 26:55Speaker 3: is so generous. That is so nice. When in reality, like,
- 27:00Speaker 3: It's just a very good money-making scheme. It's like if
- 27:03Speaker 3: you had a house, and I'm not saying that this
- 27:05Speaker 3: is the situation, if you had a house, Bec, and
- 27:08Speaker 3: you were like, I cannot for the life of me
- 27:10Speaker 3: sell it. Like it's been on the market for years.
- 27:13Speaker 3: It's worth a million dollars. I want to get my
- 27:14Speaker 3: million dollars for it. It's not selling. The buyer hasn't
- 27:18Speaker 3: turned up. You go, okay, all right, what am I
- 27:20Speaker 3: going to do? Maybe I'll run a lottery on this
- 27:22Speaker 3: house and I'm going to sell tickets. Bec, you could
- 27:24Speaker 3: buy your first home for five bucks.
- 27:26Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 27:28Speaker 3: That's a good deal. You might chuck five bucks in
- 27:30Speaker 3: and all of a sudden a couple of thousand people
- 27:33Speaker 3: do that. You've got your million dollars for your house.
- 27:36Speaker 3: You just give it to one of the people that
- 27:37Speaker 3: spent five dollars on a ticket. You've actually made more.
- 27:40Speaker 3: This is the exact model that they're using. So like, yes,
- 27:43Speaker 3: they might be giving away million dollar houses. But I
- 27:46Speaker 3: promise the ticket sales far outweigh what they could have
- 27:49Speaker 3: sold the property for because otherwise they would be selling
- 27:51Speaker 3: the property, right?
- 27:52Speaker 5: Yeah, totally.
- 27:53Speaker 3: It's a business model. It's a business model and that
- 27:55Speaker 3: is okay and it is so fine for people to
- 27:57Speaker 3: make money. I don't mind. I'm not like, you know,
- 28:00Speaker 3: I don't like gambling. I don't think it should exist.
- 28:03Speaker 3: But right now in the economy that is a completely
- 28:07Speaker 3: legal way for someone to make money. And until, you know,
- 28:11Speaker 3: other people make decisions that it's not okay, that's not
- 28:14Speaker 3: my business. But it's my business when it impacts how
- 28:18Speaker 3: she's on the money, community members, financial situations and jeopardizes
- 28:22Speaker 3: their future selves. Because I just go, absolutely. And you've
- 28:24Speaker 3: met me on and off camera, like exactly the same person.
- 28:28Speaker 3: I'll be like, what are you doing? Why are we
- 28:30Speaker 3: doing this? I want you to be in a good position. Like,
- 28:33Speaker 3: please don't compromise. your financial security for this or that
- 28:37Speaker 3: or the other. Like, oh, it makes me grumpy.
- 28:40Speaker 2: Let's take a little breather.
- 28:42Speaker 3: Let's take a breather. Let's go to a break. On
- 28:45Speaker 3: the flip side, I'm probably going to get more heated
- 28:48Speaker 3: because the dilemma is a little bit juicy. So guys,
- 28:50Speaker 3: don't go anywhere.
- 28:55Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Let's take a listen to this week's
- 28:57Speaker 2: Money Dilemma.
- 29:00Speaker 3: Hi there.
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- 29:20Speaker 5: this week's money dilemma.
- 29:24Speaker 6: Hi ladies. First of all, love the pod. Keep up
- 29:26Speaker 6: the great work. Second of all, I have a dilemma.
- 29:29Speaker 6: My brother really wants me to put my name on
- 29:32Speaker 6: his mortgage and I don't know how I feel about it.
- 29:35Speaker 6: First of all, it's going to be using my first
- 29:37Speaker 6: home buyer's grant and that means I'll never get to
- 29:39Speaker 6: use it again.
- 29:40Speaker 3: Which is really scary.
- 29:42Speaker 6: Second of all, I'm not really getting anything out of
- 29:44Speaker 6: it apart from helping my brother.
- 29:46Speaker 3: My mom tells me to do it.
- 29:48Speaker 6: I'm just not really sure. I'd love everyone in the
- 29:50Speaker 6: community's thoughts because at the end of the day, I'm
- 29:53Speaker 6: not getting anything out of this. He said that in
- 29:56Speaker 6: the future, he'll be able to guarantor his home to
- 29:59Speaker 6: my home, but that might take years for him to
- 30:02Speaker 6: pay off the mortgage and I'm really not sure about it.
- 30:04Speaker 6: I love the community's thoughts. Keep up the great work, girls.
- 30:08Speaker 3: Be so for real. That seems crazy.
- 30:11Speaker 4: It is hard though when you are like, something feels
- 30:15Speaker 4: unfair and like, but no one is, like your mom
- 30:18Speaker 4: is saying do it, your brother is saying do it
- 30:19Speaker 4: and you're like, but this is not fair to me.
- 30:22Speaker 4: So it's like your two options are go to war
- 30:25Speaker 4: with everyone and feel really anxious and shit for who
- 30:28Speaker 4: knows how long. Or just do it and know that
- 30:30Speaker 4: it is deeply unfair and like potentially changing the trajectory
- 30:34Speaker 4: of your life. Like that is so unfair too because
- 30:37Speaker 4: you're just probably minding your own business and all of
- 30:39Speaker 4: a sudden now you're given these two options and there's
- 30:41Speaker 4: nothing in between. It's just like you have to do
- 30:43Speaker 4: it to keep the peace or not do it and
- 30:45Speaker 4: just be anxious and fight with people.
- 30:47Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just like, but don't do it.
- 30:48Speaker 2: It's crazy. I don't understand why your mum is encouraging
- 30:52Speaker 2: you to do it. Are they wanting you to go
- 30:54Speaker 2: on the mortgage? Because obviously when you apply for a
- 30:56Speaker 2: mortgage with two people and two incomes, it increases your
- 30:58Speaker 2: borrowing power is what I'm guessing. But what I'm not
- 31:02Speaker 2: comprehending is like, is your mum recommending that you do that?
- 31:05Speaker 2: So you guys are co-owners of the property. So you
- 31:08Speaker 2: have a shared asset because the way that it's just
- 31:11Speaker 2: been explained to us, like you're being asked to put
- 31:13Speaker 2: your name down, you're saying you're not getting anything out
- 31:15Speaker 2: of it. So To me, that almost feels like a guarantor.
- 31:18Speaker 2: Like it's not quite a guarantor situation.
- 31:20Speaker 3: Yeah, but it just feels like your name's just being used. Correct.
- 31:23Speaker 3: Your name's on the mortgage.
- 31:25Speaker 2: So you're still liable. Like I just don't, I'm not understanding,
- 31:30Speaker 2: like I understand the benefit for your brother, but I'm
- 31:33Speaker 2: not understanding why you're being encouraged to do this because
- 31:36Speaker 2: you're right, Becca. Like it just doesn't make any sense.
- 31:38Speaker 3: But also I want to know the benefit to your brother.
- 31:40Speaker 3: Like obviously beyond the like first home owners grants and things,
- 31:43Speaker 3: like Why does your brother require this to buy property?
- 31:46Speaker 3: And now is there going to be like some kind
- 31:48Speaker 3: of rift in your family? Because if you say no,
- 31:50Speaker 3: your brother can't get the property.
- 31:52Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 31:52Speaker 3: Maybe he has one already. That's what I'm thinking.
- 31:55Speaker 2: Overwhelmingly.
- 31:56Speaker 3: Do your own financials.
- 31:58Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 31:59Speaker 2: I'm just feeling like it sucks exactly as you were saying, Bec.
- 32:02Speaker 2: You don't want to be the one on the outs.
- 32:03Speaker 2: But if there truly is no benefit to you. And
- 32:07Speaker 2: if you're not, you know, co-owning this property or, you know,
- 32:09Speaker 2: and that doesn't work for you in your financial plan,
- 32:12Speaker 2: don't let anybody bully you into making a choice that
- 32:15Speaker 2: doesn't feel right for you.
- 32:16Speaker 3: Come to Zella and I'll just write a letter to
- 32:19Speaker 3: your mum and be like, she can't do this.
- 32:21Speaker 2: Sorry. Yeah.
- 32:22Speaker 3: I'll write your sick note.
- 32:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 32:24Speaker 3: No worries.
- 32:24Speaker 2: Literally.
- 32:25Speaker 3: I'll be like, that is diabolical. Sorry, no.
- 32:28Speaker 2: I want you on my team.
- 32:30Speaker 3: Well, I am on your team.
- 32:31Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 32:32Speaker 3: I don't know how much more on your team I
- 32:33Speaker 3: could be than literally be on your team. Can you
- 32:36Speaker 3: live with me maybe? I'm not gay. I'm not gay.
- 32:39Speaker 3: I'm not on the team enough. That's not enough for me.
- 32:41Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. I just have to be only an ally.
- 32:46Speaker 3: That's fair.
- 32:47Speaker 2: That's fair.
- 32:48Speaker 3: I'll take it.
- 32:48Speaker 2: I'll take it.
- 32:49Speaker 3: I don't like it, but I'll take it.
- 32:50Speaker 2: All right. All right.
- 32:52Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I will work on myself for you. Thank you.
- 32:55Speaker 3: And back to this. To me, that's diabolical. Like what
- 33:00Speaker 3: do you mean there's an expectation that your name goes
- 33:03Speaker 3: on the mortgage? I just have so many like deeper questions.
- 33:06Speaker 3: But the way that you framed it was your brother said, oh,
- 33:09Speaker 3: later I could guarantee your property. So at no point
- 33:12Speaker 3: is he acknowledging that the property you're putting your name
- 33:14Speaker 3: down for you might co-own or part-own. Like this wasn't
- 33:17Speaker 3: a partnership situation. This was you being told I need
- 33:21Speaker 3: to use your name so that I can have this
- 33:24Speaker 3: thing that only benefits me.
- 33:26Speaker 2: But then you're legally tied to it. Like, it just
- 33:28Speaker 2: doesn't make sense.
- 33:28Speaker 3: And in this economy, to pass up your own first
- 33:31Speaker 3: homeowners grants and stuff like that, that makes no sense.
- 33:35Speaker 2: No.
- 33:36Speaker 3: It just doesn't. It genuinely doesn't seem fair. One thing
- 33:39Speaker 3: I would do is literally go and talk to a
- 33:42Speaker 3: mortgage broker about this. Don't take your family to go
- 33:45Speaker 3: see the mortgage broker. You go see a mortgage broker,
- 33:47Speaker 3: have an initial meeting and say, hey, this is what
- 33:50Speaker 3: they want to do. And a broker can kind of
- 33:52Speaker 3: run through your financials and your ability to purchase a
- 33:55Speaker 3: home and what it would look like if you didn't
- 33:57Speaker 3: have those first homeowner grants. But then also they might
- 34:01Speaker 3: be able to ask the right questions to get the
- 34:03Speaker 3: financial information that they need to be able to properly
- 34:07Speaker 3: explain this to you. that's a third party and not
- 34:11Speaker 3: involved with your situation. Cause like, it sounds like your
- 34:14Speaker 3: brother and your mom are on the same page and
- 34:16Speaker 3: they're saying, this is a great idea. And like, to me,
- 34:19Speaker 3: red flag city, like babe, that's a carnival. I just,
- 34:24Speaker 3: I'm a little bit uncomfortable with it. It sounds like
- 34:28Speaker 3: you're just being used so that they get the financial benefit.
- 34:32Speaker 3: I have seen other situations. I don't know why they
- 34:35Speaker 3: did this. It wasn't in my business just to be
- 34:37Speaker 3: very clear, but, someone's sibling wanted them to go on
- 34:42Speaker 3: their property so that they got the first homeowner's concessions
- 34:45Speaker 3: and then they were given some cash to weigh it up.
- 34:48Speaker 4: Okay.
- 34:49Speaker 3: But at the same time, just use the cash towards
- 34:52Speaker 3: your mortgage. I don't really comprehend it properly. I feel
- 34:55Speaker 3: like we need more information, but what I'm hearing sounds bad.
- 34:59Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 34:59Speaker 4: And just the fact that.
- 35:00Speaker 2: You're uncomfortable is a red flag enough in itself. Like
- 35:03Speaker 2: any decision you're making regarding your financial future, like you
- 35:06Speaker 2: should have full confidence in your knowledge and And that alone,
- 35:09Speaker 2: I think is enough to say, speak to somebody who
- 35:11Speaker 2: can help you with that.
- 35:12Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
- 35:13Speaker 3: And I mean, family is important. So you don't want
- 35:16Speaker 3: to like just burn that bridge. But at the same time,
- 35:19Speaker 3: they need to respect you. And I think you need
- 35:21Speaker 3: to really weigh up your long term consequences and what
- 35:24Speaker 3: that will look like if you make that financial decision.
- 35:26Speaker 3: Because the thing that you're doing to help someone out
- 35:29Speaker 3: today might actually put you so far back in the
- 35:32Speaker 3: future that they're well off and you're struggling for the
- 35:35Speaker 3: rest of ever. That doesn't feel right.
- 35:38Speaker 2: No, not at all.
- 35:38Speaker 3: All right.
- 35:39Speaker 2: Should we get into this week's juicy DM?
- 35:40Speaker 3: Absolutely. Hello, ladies. I know this is a total first
- 35:44Speaker 3: world problem. I'm so ready for this. And I feel
- 35:47Speaker 3: a little bit silly even writing in because I just
- 35:49Speaker 3: know how lucky I am. But I'd love to know
- 35:51Speaker 3: if anyone else has experienced this. Over the last few years,
- 35:55Speaker 3: I've worked really hard to get my finances into a
- 35:58Speaker 3: really good place. On paper, I am doing everything I
- 36:01Speaker 3: set out to do, and I'm really proud of how
- 36:03Speaker 3: far I've come. The problem is I still can't seem
- 36:06Speaker 3: to enjoy spending my money And even question if I
- 36:09Speaker 3: deserve a coffee if I forgot to make one at home.
- 36:13Speaker 3: I've been wanting to book a holiday for ages, but
- 36:14Speaker 3: every single time I go to press book, I close
- 36:16Speaker 3: the tab because I can't stop thinking about how much
- 36:19Speaker 3: more that money could grow if I invested it instead.
- 36:22Speaker 3: What are my next steps here? What should I be doing?
- 36:25Speaker 4: It would be a really tricky one if you're saving
- 36:28Speaker 4: for like, you just know that a hundred bucks will
- 36:31Speaker 4: grow to whatever amount if you were to not touch it.
- 36:35Speaker 4: And so it's really, I'm trying to think of analogy
- 36:39Speaker 4: or something that is similar in like regular life.
- 36:43Speaker 3: We're like, oh, I could.
- 36:44Speaker 4: Either not touch this thing and see where it goes
- 36:47Speaker 4: or like be using it to make beautiful memories, whatever.
- 36:51Speaker 3: It's probably a really, really tricky thing. It sounds like
- 36:53Speaker 3: when you say like whether or not.
- 36:54Speaker 4: You deserve a coffee if you forget to make one
- 36:56Speaker 4: at home, it feels like it's probably maybe a little
- 36:59Speaker 4: bit even deeper than feeling like, oh, I don't want
- 37:02Speaker 4: this thing that I worked so hard for to go
- 37:04Speaker 4: to waste. And this is why I say like, to
- 37:06Speaker 4: what end when people are like, you know, save, save, save,
- 37:09Speaker 4: which I do appreciate.
- 37:10Speaker 3: And I really think, you know, it's so impressive.
- 37:13Speaker 4: That people can save and some people save for like
- 37:15Speaker 4: a house or a car or whatever.
- 37:16Speaker 3: And so I'm like, to what end? Because it's like, well,
- 37:19Speaker 3: that's ideally to.
- 37:21Speaker 4: Spend, right? Whether it's on an emergency, whether it's on
- 37:24Speaker 4: a holiday, whether it's to spend. And so I guess
- 37:29Speaker 4: like probably would get to a point where you're like,
- 37:31Speaker 4: it doesn't feel like it's to spend anymore. It feels
- 37:34Speaker 4: like it's like a portfolio. What I'm trying to say
- 37:37Speaker 4: is if you have paints and a canvas and you're like, well,
- 37:40Speaker 4: I don't want to use these beautiful paints like this.
- 37:42Speaker 2: It's the sticker analogy. Like you never want to use
- 37:46Speaker 2: your nice stickers.
- 37:47Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
- 37:48Speaker 4: And it's like, do you want something that's beautiful to
- 37:50Speaker 4: look at that makes you feel like really satisfied and
- 37:52Speaker 4: happy and proud of? Or, and it shouldn't be one
- 37:56Speaker 4: or the other, or do you want to like, use
- 37:58Speaker 4: it for what its intended purpose is, which is to
- 38:01Speaker 4: make memories. But yeah, the coffee thing, I'm like, maybe
- 38:05Speaker 4: there's also a little bit of internal monologue that we
- 38:07Speaker 4: should be working on, which is you deserve everything you've
- 38:10Speaker 4: worked hard for, but also things that you didn't work
- 38:12Speaker 4: hard for. You deserve to live a beautiful, happy life
- 38:15Speaker 4: full of little joys and big joys. And so like,
- 38:18Speaker 4: start there, start inside that head of yours and You
- 38:21Speaker 4: deserve a coffee.
- 38:22Speaker 3: Absolutely you deserve a coffee.
- 38:23Speaker 2: Get that out of your head. That's so beautiful.
- 38:25Speaker 3: I love that. I do. I love that. I also
- 38:30Speaker 3: like how I feel like I just watched you do
- 38:33Speaker 3: a heap of mental gymnastics.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry.
- 38:35Speaker 3: To come up with an analogy. And you're like, it's
- 38:38Speaker 3: like paints on a canvas. And I was like, she's
- 38:40Speaker 3: got it.
- 38:40Speaker 2: That's where I came from. You're so welcome. I agree.
- 38:48Speaker 2: I think we hear this from people a lot. You
- 38:50Speaker 2: kind of go from the pendulum swings one end to
- 38:52Speaker 2: the other. You're really bad with money. You're spending money
- 38:54Speaker 2: like crazy. You tidy yourself up and then all of
- 38:56Speaker 2: a sudden it's really hard to spend money because you've
- 38:58Speaker 2: worked so hard on getting out of one mindset. You
- 39:00Speaker 2: found yourself in another. In an ideal world, we exist
- 39:03Speaker 2: somewhere in the middle space. You know, the bottom of
- 39:05Speaker 2: the pendulum is a nice, easy spot to swing. I
- 39:08Speaker 2: think that it's hard because on one level, Who is
- 39:13Speaker 2: anyone to tell you what level of frugality is appropriate?
- 39:16Speaker 2: Like I know that I look at some people on TikTok,
- 39:18Speaker 2: for example, who live the extreme level of frugality.
- 39:23Speaker 3: Bradley on a budget.
- 39:24Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was thinking about. You know, reusing
- 39:28Speaker 2: toilet paper and you go ready towels.
- 39:30Speaker 3: That's like, I just can't, I can't.
- 39:33Speaker 2: Not the life for me, but who am I to
- 39:34Speaker 2: tell somebody else to live their life? But I agree completely.
- 39:37Speaker 2: I think we're all trying to build our dream life, right?
- 39:40Speaker 2: Like I know I'm certainly wanting to be better with
- 39:42Speaker 2: money so I can live.
- 39:43Speaker 3: A What about money do you want to be better at?
- 39:46Speaker 3: You were like a little weapon. You just bought your
- 39:47Speaker 3: first home. You've got it together. You have six million
- 39:50Speaker 3: savings accounts.
- 39:52Speaker 2: There's always more to learn. But I think we're all
- 39:55Speaker 2: doing this so that we can live that life because
- 39:57Speaker 2: I do. I want to buy the coffee. I want
- 39:59Speaker 2: to go on the holiday. I want to be able
- 40:01Speaker 2: to do the things. I want to have it all.
- 40:02Speaker 2: And I think that we are exactly all deserving of that.
- 40:05Speaker 2: And so to me, it's a means to an end.
- 40:08Speaker 2: If you're saying you're feeling guilt around spending on something small,
- 40:13Speaker 2: I would say, I've said this before, are you budgeting correctly?
- 40:15Speaker 2: Are you allocating money to things that are of value
- 40:18Speaker 2: to you? Because If you have a fund labelled coffee,
- 40:21Speaker 2: mentally that might help you go, oh, well, I'm spending
- 40:24Speaker 2: this money based on what it's intended for. Like that's
- 40:26Speaker 2: how I manage my savers. You know, I've got things
- 40:28Speaker 2: for clothes, for books, for whatever, so that it's really
- 40:32Speaker 2: clear what I've allocated my money to and I don't
- 40:34Speaker 2: feel bad spending that. If it is a matter of
- 40:37Speaker 2: you going, well, would I rather invest the money and
- 40:40Speaker 2: is that of more benefit to me long term? Like
- 40:42Speaker 2: we can't really tell you that. But I think if
- 40:44Speaker 2: you're experiencing severe guilt– To me, that's when it's crossing
- 40:49Speaker 2: into a territory of, well, maybe it's time to talk
- 40:51Speaker 2: to somebody about that because it can be tied up
- 40:54Speaker 2: in lots of other things and there's no shame in that.
- 40:57Speaker 2: But the purpose to me of this show and of
- 41:00Speaker 2: becoming good with your money is to put you in
- 41:03Speaker 2: a place of positivity. And it sounds like maybe you're
- 41:06Speaker 2: not quite there at the moment and that can be hard. Yeah.
- 41:10Speaker 3: I think the thing that stands out to me is that,
- 41:12Speaker 3: and on this show I've said it a million times,
- 41:15Speaker 3: it's not just about the destination. It is about the
- 41:17Speaker 3: journey and you need to be enjoying the journey. And
- 41:19Speaker 3: what you told me is that you're not enjoying the journey.
- 41:22Speaker 3: Like what's the destination? Like, cause if you're saying, oh,
- 41:25Speaker 3: well V, the reason I'm worried about it not compounding
- 41:29Speaker 3: and it being a better decision to put it in
- 41:31Speaker 3: an investment is because down the line, I want to
- 41:34Speaker 3: retire five years earlier. At which point I go, okay, fantastic.
- 41:38Speaker 3: We've got a really clean goal of when we're going
- 41:40Speaker 3: to be spending that money. But if you've got no
- 41:44Speaker 3: goal like that and the goal was to also enjoy
- 41:47Speaker 3: the journey and go on a holiday and have your
- 41:49Speaker 3: emergency fund and have everything, like you're not enjoying the journey.
- 41:53Speaker 3: What you're telling me is your scarcity mindset is now
- 41:56Speaker 3: inhibiting that and you need to kind of work on that.
- 41:58Speaker 3: And as Jess said, I'd be trying to spend some
- 42:00Speaker 3: of my funds talking to somebody about that because that
- 42:04Speaker 3: can feel really restricting and it can mean that, Once
- 42:08Speaker 3: you do book the holiday, maybe you don't enjoy the
- 42:11Speaker 3: holiday because all you're doing is thinking about how much
- 42:12Speaker 3: the holiday cost. And then you come home and you're like, well,
- 42:14Speaker 3: that was a waste of money because I didn't even
- 42:16Speaker 3: enjoy it that much because I was stressed about money
- 42:18Speaker 3: the whole time. Yeah, I think that's something we need
- 42:21Speaker 3: to work on. And it sounds like scarcity mindset is
- 42:24Speaker 3: really holding you back, which I think is really negative again.
- 42:28Speaker 3: As we said, Jess, there are lots of people in
- 42:30Speaker 3: this world. Bradley on a budget is a great example
- 42:32Speaker 3: and I would love to have him on the show.
- 42:34Speaker 3: So if anyone knows him, you let me know because
- 42:37Speaker 3: that man is the most frugal man in the entire universe.
- 42:41Speaker 3: For those of you following along at home, he's like
- 42:44Speaker 3: this budgeting king who is in heaps of debt and
- 42:47Speaker 3: I can see he has a lot like from a
- 42:49Speaker 3: psychological perspective. I think that that traumatized him so much
- 42:53Speaker 3: that now he's still so frugal, but he's very, very
- 42:56Speaker 3: popular on TikTok. Meaning I know he has hundreds of
- 42:59Speaker 3: thousands of dollars saved, but I can never see him
- 43:02Speaker 3: spending it. But he lives in New York and, you know,
- 43:05Speaker 3: I feel like there's a lot of money trauma in
- 43:07Speaker 3: his story. But I'd love to have him on the
- 43:10Speaker 3: show because I just think there's so much we could learn.
- 43:12Speaker 3: But that's not for me. And I've said it before
- 43:15Speaker 3: about the people who follow the FIRE system and their
- 43:18Speaker 3: financial independence retire early. We've got someone on our team, Brooke,
- 43:22Speaker 3: who's doing that. And she's doing an incredible job of it.
- 43:25Speaker 3: But I look at her situation and I go, I
- 43:27Speaker 3: love that for you. And I love that she's enjoying
- 43:30Speaker 3: her journey. But if I did that, I wouldn't enjoy
- 43:32Speaker 3: my journey because we're all different. And I think that's
- 43:35Speaker 3: also one of the reasons why my mortgage-broking business's tagline is,
- 43:39Speaker 3: it's your journey because everybody is different and on a
- 43:43Speaker 3: different pathway. So like, We can't tell you what to do,
- 43:47Speaker 3: but I think reflection and understanding what scarcity mindset is
- 43:50Speaker 3: and what about your money story is making that really hard.
- 43:54Speaker 3: Because as Bec said, you do deserve to enjoy your life.
- 43:57Speaker 3: And I think that's the most important part here.
- 44:00Speaker 4: Absolutely.
- 44:00Speaker 2: What did everybody else say?
- 44:01Speaker 3: So first cab off the rank, I asked the community,
- 44:04Speaker 3: have you ever felt guilty spending money you can comfortably afford? 56%
- 44:10Speaker 3: of you said yes all the time.
- 44:11Speaker 2: I'm sorry you guys feel that way.
- 44:14Speaker 3: Then the next question we asked was, when you receive
- 44:16Speaker 3: a pay rise, what do you usually do with it? 46%
- 44:20Speaker 3: of you said, split it between my savings and my lifestyle. 27% said,
- 44:25Speaker 3: save or invest almost all of it. 23% said, gets
- 44:28Speaker 3: absorbed into my everyday spending. You're real for admitting that.
- 44:32Speaker 3: And 4% of you said, lifestyle upgrade all the way.
- 44:37Speaker 3: We then said, what is your biggest money mindset challenge
- 44:40Speaker 3: at the moment? 42% of you said feeling financially behind.
- 44:46Speaker 3: I feel like we need a whole episode on that. 22%
- 44:49Speaker 3: said overthinking every single money decision. And then 18% said
- 44:53Speaker 3: feeling guilty when I spend. And the other 18% said overspending.
- 44:59Speaker 3: We then went to the community and said, what is
- 45:01Speaker 3: your two cents? And honestly, very similar to what we're saying.
- 45:07Speaker 3: A lot of people said, I feel really guilty when
- 45:09Speaker 3: I spend so much money. Some people said, I suffer
- 45:12Speaker 3: from scarcity mindset. This really resonates with me. Another person said,
- 45:16Speaker 3: step back, figure out your values. So when you spend,
- 45:19Speaker 3: you're not spending in line with somebody else's values.
- 45:22Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good advice.
- 45:24Speaker 3: Another person said, saving money shouldn't delay your total happiness
- 45:30Speaker 3: right now. Another person said, choose how often you want
- 45:33Speaker 3: to go on holiday and And with what budget? And
- 45:36Speaker 3: then stick to it. Perhaps it's your budget that needs
- 45:38Speaker 3: stricter guidelines.
- 45:40Speaker 2: I agree with that.
- 45:41Speaker 3: Another person said, this is all too relatable. I can
- 45:44Speaker 3: gaslight myself out of spending any amount of money, but
- 45:47Speaker 3: also maybe I should be trying to gaslight myself into it.
- 45:51Speaker 2: It's all in moderation. Like nothing's inherently bad. Yes.
- 45:54Speaker 3: Another person said, be really clear on your values. I
- 45:58Speaker 3: feel a theme here. It's almost like you guys are
- 46:01Speaker 3: actually our community members.
- 46:03Speaker 2: You've been listening.
- 46:04Speaker 3: And someone said, don't forget to have a good day
- 46:06Speaker 3: while trying to create a good life. And I thought
- 46:09Speaker 3: that was a really good way to explain it. I
- 46:13Speaker 3: love that. I'd never heard that before. And I just thought,
- 46:16Speaker 3: I'm going to leave it on that. Don't forget to
- 46:19Speaker 3: have a good day while you are trying to create
- 46:21Speaker 3: a good life. Oh, gorgeous. Isn't that so sweet? Anyway,
- 46:25Speaker 3: my friends, I wish we had more time, but that
- 46:28Speaker 3: is unfortunately over. all we have time for, for this
- 46:31Speaker 3: arguably very long edition of Friday Drinks. We hope that
- 46:35Speaker 3: this episode has maybe inspired you to look closely at
- 46:37Speaker 3: your purchases, at fuel prices, at not engaging in gambling behavior,
- 46:42Speaker 3: and maybe even talking about your podcast preferences with your
- 46:46Speaker 3: partner and whether they align. Maybe you're adding a new
- 46:48Speaker 3: one from our list of podcasts we listen to, to
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- 47:01Speaker 3: and early next week for a Monday Money Diary. Take
- 47:04Speaker 3: care of yourselves and of each other and we will
- 47:07Speaker 3: see you then.
- 47:08Speaker 2: Bye, guys. Bye.
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