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- 0:03Welcome to Advisory Secrets with Deb Halladay, the bite sized podcast for accountants and bookkeepers developing their advisory skills.
- 0:12In this series, we're going beyond the individual advisor and exploring how to build advisory capability across your team.
- 0:21Because a scalable advisory service shouldn't depend on one person.
- 0:25Let's get started.
- 0:30In the last episode, we talked about the difference between delegating tasks and developing advisory capability.
- 0:37And one of the biggest barriers to doing that is confidence.
- 0:42You might have someone in your team who is technically excellent.
- 0:46They understand the numbers, they know the client, they spot things you haven't even noticed yet.
- 0:52But put them into an advisory conversation and suddenly they become hesitant.
- 0:57They don't want to say the wrong thing, and they worry that the client might ask a question they can't answer, or they simply don't feel it's their place to offer an opinion.
- 1:07And sometimes we look at that and think they're just not confident enough for advisory.
- 1:12But confidence isn't necessarily something someone either has or doesn't have.
- 1:16It can be developed.
- 1:17And as leaders, we have an important role in creating the environment for that that to happen.
- 1:24One of the mistakes we can make is telling someone they need to be more advisory without really explaining what that means.
- 1:32Ask more questions, be more commercial, talk to clients more, give them more value.
- 1:37But if someone has spent years being rewarded for accuracy, following processes and getting the right answer, that's quite a significant change.
- 1:46We're suddenly asking them to step into conversations where there may not be one correct answer.
- 1:54We're asking them to express an opinion, to challenge thinking, to explore possibilities, and potentially to say, I don't know, but let's, let's look at that.
- 2:05That can feel uncomfortable.
- 2:07So confidence needs to be built gradually.
- 2:10And one of the best ways to do that is through exposure.
- 2:15Bring team members into advisory meetings.
- 2:17Let them listen first, then give them a small role.
- 2:20Perhaps they explain one section of the numbers, perhaps they ask one or two questions.
- 2:25Perhaps they talk about an area of the client's business they know particularly well.
- 2:31Then afterwards talk about how it went.
- 2:33What did they notice?
- 2:34What worked?
- 2:35What would they do differently next time?
- 2:37What did they think when the client said a particular thing?
- 2:41Those conversations are incredibly valuable because you're not just giving feedback, you're helping them reflect.
- 2:50And reflection builds judgment.
- 2:53Another important part of confidence is permission.
- 2:56Your team needs to know that you actually want them to contribute.
- 3:00If every time somebody offers an opinion, the business owner immediately corrects them, finishes their sentence, or gives the better answer, they'll soon stop contributing, even if we don't mean to do it.
- 3:13Sometimes our own expertise can accidentally silence the people we're trying to develop.
- 3:20So occasionally we need to sit back, let someone else answer first.
- 3:24Let them explore the question.
- 3:26Let them find their own way through the conversation.
- 3:28And that doesn't mean leaving them unsupported.
- 3:30It means creating a safe place for them to practice.
- 3:36And there will be times when they don't know the answer.
- 3:40That's okay.
- 3:41A trusted advisor doesn't need to know everything.
- 3:44Knowing when to say, let me look into that and come back to you, is a professional skill in itself.
- 3:51We also need to remember that different people will build confidence in different ways.
- 3:56One team member might be comfortable speaking in meetings very quickly.
- 3:59Another might need more preparation.
- 4:02Someone may be brilliant at analysing a situation, but less confident explaining it.
- 4:07Someone else might have fantastic client relationships but need to develop their commercial knowledge.
- 4:13That's why building an advisory team isn't about forcing everyone through exactly the same mold.
- 4:19It's about recognizing strengths and developing people from where they are.
- 4:24And confidence tends to grow when people experience success.
- 4:28The first time they ask a question that opens up a really useful conversation.
- 4:33The first time a client asks for their opinion, the first time they spot something that leads to a better decision.
- 4:38Those moments matter, because suddenly they're not pretending to be an advisor, they're experiencing what it feels like to be one.
- 4:47And each successful experience gives them a little more confidence for the next one.
- 4:53So here's the question I'd like you to think about after this episode.
- 4:57Does your team genuinely lack confidence in advisory, or have they simply not had enough opportunities to build it yet?
- 5:07Because confidence doesn't usually arrive before the opportunity, very often it develops because of it.
- 5:12And in the next episode, we're going to take that one step further.
- 5:16Because if you want clients to trust your team, at some point, your team needs to become visible to them.
- 5:24So we'll look at a simple but important question.
- 5:27Who should actually be in the client meeting?
- 5:29We also need to remember that different people will build confidence in different ways.
- 5:34One team member might be comfortable speaking in meetings very quickly.
- 5:38Another might need more preparation.
- 5:40Someone may be brilliant at analyzing a situation, but less confident explaining it.
- 5:45Someone else might have fantastic client relationships but need to develop their commercial knowledge.
- 5:51And sometimes the barrier isn't knowledge or ability at all.
- 5:55It can be the beliefs we hold about ourselves, that feeling of, who am I to advise this client?
- 6:01Or worrying that we're not experienced enough, senior enough or confident enough to have that conversation.
- 6:08That's one of the reasons that at APX Training, we've partnered with Hetty Verney.
- 6:14Hetty isn't only an accountant with 30 years experience, she's also a belief coding specialist, working with people on the beliefs and confidence barriers that can sometimes hold them back professionally.
- 6:30Because we can teach someone the skills of advisory we can give them frameworks, knowledge and opportunities to practice.
- 6:38But sometimes we also need to address what's going on underneath that lack of confidence.
- 6:43You can find out more about Hetty and the work she does with us@apxtraining.co.uk and this is also why building an advisory team isn't about forcing everyone through exactly the same mould.
- 6:58It's about recognizing strengths, understanding what might be holding someone back, and developing people from where they are.
- 7:07Confidence tends to grow when people experience success.
- 7:12The first time they ask a question that opens up a really useful conversation, the first time a client asks for their opinion, the first time they spot something that leads to a better decision.
- 7:23Those moments matter because suddenly they're not pretending to be an advisor, they're experiencing what it feels like to be one.
- 7:30And each successful experience gives them a little more confidence for the next one.
- 7:38Thanks for listening to Advisory Secrets with Deb Halladay.
- 7:41If you're ready to develop advisory capability across your team, visit apxtraining.co.uk to explore our evergreen elearning and Live Implementation cohorts starting in September, February and May.
- 7:57You can also join our free Advisory Teams community on facebook@facebook.com groups advisoryteams.
- 8:07And if you'd like more podcast content, listen to Advisory Conversations with Tim Seymour and Deb Halliday.
- 8:14Available on all major podcast platforms.
- 8:16I'll see you next time for another advisory secret.