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Bonus Ep: Budget beauty hacks with Beauty IQ Uncensored · She's On The Money

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  Speaker 1: She's on the Money.
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  Speaker 2: She's on the Money.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to a very special bonus episode of
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  Speaker 3: She's on the Money, the podcast for millennials who want
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  Speaker 3: financial freedom. My name's Joanna Fleming, the beauty editor and
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  Speaker 3: co host of Ajoor Beauty's podcast, Beauty IQU Censored, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm joined today by my co host, Hannah First and
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  Speaker 3: your finance friends Victoria Devine and Georgia King. Now, we're
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  Speaker 3: experts on all things beauty and you may have heard
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  Speaker 3: us before on our Beauty IQ un Censored podcast, and
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  Speaker 3: today we're joining forces with She's on the Money to
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  Speaker 3: answer your burning beauty on a budget questions so we
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  Speaker 3: can hopefully come away with a greater understanding of where
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  Speaker 3: we should be spending more money when it comes to
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  Speaker 3: beauty and where we can afford to save some money.
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  Speaker 3: It'll be a little bit of a relaxed Q and
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  Speaker 3: a we might go a little bit rogue here, who
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  Speaker 3: really knows. In traditional She's on the Money style, Georgia
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  Speaker 3: King will ask our questions today and we will do
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  Speaker 3: our best to answer them. Now, I'm going to hand
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  Speaker 3: the mic over to Victoria Divine. Victoria, Hello, jo Anna.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, for those of you who haven't met Joanna. She
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  Speaker 2: started her career working in marketing and admin with plastic
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  Speaker 2: and cosmetic surgeons while studying journalism. Like our friend Georgia King,
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  Speaker 2: so she has a very deep understanding of skincare and
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  Speaker 2: of professional treatment. She's been in the beauty industry for
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  Speaker 2: almost eight years and has been with a Door for
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  Speaker 2: almost four years now. Our other friend here is Hannah
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  Speaker 2: and she is the glorious co host of Adoor Beauties podcast,
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  Speaker 2: and Hannah is a Door's resident beauty newbie. Before working
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  Speaker 2: with a Door, Hannah was traveling the world with just
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  Speaker 2: one tube of JURLEYK moisturizer, washed her face with water
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  Speaker 2: and used olive oil as a deep conditioning treatment, which
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure we can all relate to and how times
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  Speaker 2: have changed. Friends. Now, just like me, she's an absolute
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  Speaker 2: serum addict, and again, just like me, is probably Aspect
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  Speaker 2: Skincare's number one fan. As Joe said before, these legends
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  Speaker 2: are joining us to help make sense of the beauty
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  Speaker 2: messas you guys may have found yourselves in. So, without
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  Speaker 2: further aduce, let's jump straight into our questions. Georgia King,
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  Speaker 2: it is your time to shine.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, Thank you Joe, you did way too good a
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  Speaker 4: job of that intro. I feel like I may be
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  Speaker 4: out of a job now, but.
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  Speaker 2: I would love to be able to say that I
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  Speaker 2: took someone from a door beauty.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think my tiny podcast is up for that.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm not very good at numbers.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine, that's fine, But let's like get into the
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  Speaker 2: questions so we can learn a little bit more and
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  Speaker 2: be a little bit more beauty savvy. I'm so excited
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  Speaker 2: for this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So all of these questions came from our community as well,
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  Speaker 4: and there are quite a few here, so we will
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  Speaker 4: dive straight in, Ladies. The first one we have is
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  Speaker 4: what skincare items should you invest in and which ones
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  Speaker 4: should we choose the cheaper option for.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, it's a good question. I like this question. I
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  Speaker 3: get this a lot, actually, And the truth is that
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  Speaker 3: the things that you can save on are generally the basics,
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  Speaker 3: So your cleansers and your SBF there's always cheaper options
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  Speaker 3: of those things. Your cleanser is on your face for
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  Speaker 3: the least amount of time, you can find some pretty
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  Speaker 3: good cheap moisturizes, to be honest, and with your sbfs,
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  Speaker 3: even your sun sense ones are great. You don't necessarily
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  Speaker 3: have to spend sixty bucks on a tube of sunscreen
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  Speaker 3: for it to be effective, as long as it's an
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  Speaker 3: SBF fifty. And then the things that you probably want
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  Speaker 3: to invest in, Hannah, I think you'll agree is your
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  Speaker 3: active serums, so your retinols, your vitamin c's, things that
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  Speaker 3: probably take a little bit more science to formulate. That's
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  Speaker 3: probably where I'd be spending the big bucks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 5: I said the exact same thing was I said that
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  Speaker 5: you could spend less on a cleanser and a moisturizer,
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  Speaker 5: but the two things that I would definitely invest in
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  Speaker 5: are a good quality vitamin C serum. The other thing
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  Speaker 5: I was going to say, Joe, was do you remember
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  Speaker 5: when I bought that over the counter like prescription retinoid
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  Speaker 5: that was really cheap in Thailand.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So the reason I think the number one ingredient that
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  Speaker 5: I would spend more on is retinal because retinol can
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  Speaker 5: be really, really irritating on the skin, and as I
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  Speaker 5: found out, you know, my skin just went completely red.
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  Speaker 5: But you can get you know, good quality retinols that
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  Speaker 5: are formulated for sensitive skin, and I would say that's
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  Speaker 5: where I want to invest my money in so that
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  Speaker 5: my skin doesn't have a complete freak out when I'm
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  Speaker 5: using a more irritating ingredient. So we're on the same page, Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm actually so excited to hear that, because I've
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  Speaker 2: been on the podcast and I don't know if you
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  Speaker 2: guys have heard it, but I keep talking about my
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  Speaker 2: Cancer Council sunscreen and it is SPF fifty, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: obsessed with it because I just really like the texture
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  Speaker 2: of it under my makeup. And I was really worried
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  Speaker 2: that you guys were going to say you have to
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  Speaker 2: spend a lot of money on suncream as long as
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  Speaker 2: it would broad spectrum. You're good, okay, all right. I'm
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  Speaker 2: very very excited to hear that. And also on cleanser,
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  Speaker 2: I'm very good at spending a lot of money on that.
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  Speaker 2: I just feel like it's a really locksided.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I spend a fair bit of money on cleanser.
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  Speaker 3: I buy like a fifty dollars cleanser, but the truth
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  Speaker 3: is you could get the ordinary one for what like
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  Speaker 3: twelve dollars ninety and that's still a great cleanser.
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  Speaker 2: I really know that as well. I've got that at
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  Speaker 2: the moment, and I found that, like I can't complain.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, you do wash it
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  Speaker 2: down at the sink. So maybe exactly this makes sense
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  Speaker 2: to save a bit of money there. But Georgia King,
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  Speaker 2: given we have a number of questions to get, what
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  Speaker 2: is our next one? Yeah, let's keep it moving. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like we've got lots to do that a lot to
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  Speaker 2: this episode two.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So second question, ladies, do we really need a
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  Speaker 4: separate moisturizer for our face, body, hands, nails or is
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  Speaker 4: that just marketing at its finest.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you necessarily need a different moisturizer for
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  Speaker 3: your body and your hands or nails, but definitely for
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  Speaker 3: your face. I would say your face has the highest
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  Speaker 3: concentration of serbaceous GLAMs or oil glands, and your body
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  Speaker 3: has less. So your body tends to get dryer. So
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  Speaker 3: you'll find that body moisturizes or lotions are a mixture
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  Speaker 3: of like humectin, emollient and exclusive ingredients. So that might
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  Speaker 3: be nourishing oils, or it might have a balmi text.
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  Speaker 3: You it'll be too thick for the skin on our face,
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  Speaker 3: and often you'll find that in cosmoceutical moisturiz is like
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  Speaker 3: one of our favorites aspect Fighter Stat nine that there
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  Speaker 3: are lots of beautiful active ingredients that can target different
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  Speaker 3: skin concerns and different skin types, and a lot of
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  Speaker 3: moisturizes will be made for certain skin types and concerns.
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  Speaker 2: Joanna, we were talking the other day, and you know
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  Speaker 2: you will have to pry my photostat nine from my
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  Speaker 2: cold ded boy, like it is my favorite thing in
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  Speaker 2: this whole entire world. And I know you said that
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  Speaker 2: you can save or moisturizer, and you definitely can, but
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  Speaker 2: like that is one of my explurge items that you
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  Speaker 2: cannot stop me buying.
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  Speaker 3: Finding a moisturizer that you love is actually quite challenging.
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  Speaker 3: So if you do find one that you love and
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  Speaker 3: it's a bit more expensive, go for it. But like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I'm not gonna stop using Fighter Stat nine.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no neither. Don't you worry. But you and
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  Speaker 2: I both Also you said something that a skincare junkie
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  Speaker 2: like me understands, and that's cosmaceutical. But for those of
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  Speaker 2: us listening who may be still you olive oil as
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  Speaker 2: a conditioning treatment, could you please explain what that actually
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  Speaker 2: means and why it's important.
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  Speaker 3: So for anyone who isn't sure what a cosmeceutical is,
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  Speaker 3: Basically the name comes from a blend of pharmaceutical and cosmetic.
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  Speaker 3: So essentially, a cosmeceutical is something that you would find
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  Speaker 3: range in a clinic, that's used in a clinic setting,
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  Speaker 3: or has a high concentration of active ingredients. And often
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  Speaker 3: these brands spend a lot of money on scientific research.
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  Speaker 3: It's all about getting results in the skin. So they
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  Speaker 3: do differ quite a lot from the things that you
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  Speaker 3: can buy the chemist or the supermarket. And obviously that's
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  Speaker 3: reflected in the price point as well, which we kind
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  Speaker 3: of touched on with the aspect moist It's very pricey,
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  Speaker 3: but it's awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, would you say it, Joe, Like, if you had
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  Speaker 4: to choose between a serum or a cosmeceutical moisturizer, If
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  Speaker 4: like you were on a budget and you had to
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  Speaker 4: pick one or the other, where are you spending your money?
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  Speaker 1: Therem I could adds to her.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, Adah, Yeah, there you go.
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  Speaker 1: That's my answer, and I'm the same, I'm the same,
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  Speaker 1: all right.
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  Speaker 4: So next question for you ladies, is it really necessary
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  Speaker 4: to replace products at their use by dates, so like
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  Speaker 4: when a muscara or moisturizer says used by three months
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  Speaker 4: after opening.
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  Speaker 5: I was actually going to let Joe answer this one
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  Speaker 5: because she's much more down on the sciencey stuff.
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  Speaker 1: What do you record?
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  Speaker 5: I know that masca are because if you're using something
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  Speaker 5: around your eyes, you don't want to keep using the
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  Speaker 5: same thing over and over, particularly on an area like
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  Speaker 5: your eyes. But Joel, handover to you for this one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So we recently did an episode with doctor Michelle
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  Speaker 3: Squire on product storage and something that I taught Hannah
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  Speaker 3: very early on was the little icon on your beauty products.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a little icon on the back of your
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  Speaker 3: beauty products under where all of the instructions are and
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  Speaker 3: all of the ingredients are, and will generally say like
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  Speaker 3: twelve months, three months, six months, and that gives you
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  Speaker 3: a guide of how long that product will last once
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  Speaker 3: it's opened. So that's once you've pulled the seal off
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  Speaker 3: you started using it from then is how long that
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  Speaker 3: product is tested to be safe for use. So if
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  Speaker 3: it does start to go over that time, I would
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  Speaker 3: be monitoring changes in the smell, in the texture, in
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  Speaker 3: the color, of the product, and if that stuff does
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  Speaker 3: start to change, that's probably a sign that that product
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  Speaker 3: is starting to go off. But particularly with ingredients like
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  Speaker 3: vitamin c's, they oxidize really quickly, which means they're affected
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  Speaker 3: by exposure to air. So often those kind of products
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  Speaker 3: will only last or be effective for three months anyway,
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  Speaker 3: So there's no point in your using it after that, really,
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  Speaker 3: because you're putting something on your skin that isn't really
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  Speaker 3: able to do much. But when it comes to miscara, Hannah,
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  Speaker 3: as you said, like if there's a build up of
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  Speaker 3: bacteria with mescara, but also they dry out very quickly
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  Speaker 3: because you're pulling the wand out and a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people pump their mescara as well, and you're just pumping
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  Speaker 3: more air in, so they get clumpy and they start
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  Speaker 3: to not look as good as they did when you
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  Speaker 3: first opened it.
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  Speaker 5: Joe and I both say these is that mascara is
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  Speaker 5: one of those things that you can kind of go
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  Speaker 5: more affordable on. So both of us use mascaras from
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  Speaker 5: Lorel Paris and Maybelene, and they're both I think Maybelene
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  Speaker 5: they're like classic mascaras, maybe twelve or thirteen dollars I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: probably around that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's you.
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  Speaker 5: If you want to go more affordable on the mascara,
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  Speaker 5: there's some awesome mascaras that won't break the bank.
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  Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with designer brands. For anyone that is like
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  Speaker 3: into pharmacy stuff, I love designer brands. Obsessed with their foundation,
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  Speaker 3: love all of their like eyeshadow palettes and all of
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  Speaker 3: that stuff. They're so good.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Like completely off topic and not on
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  Speaker 2: the question list, but have you guys recently used that
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  Speaker 2: Flower beauty range.
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  Speaker 3: No, but we've heard about it. One of our guests
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  Speaker 3: was saying that their lipstick is amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm obsessed with it. Like I went,
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  Speaker 2: I think it was. Chemist Warehouse had like a fifty
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  Speaker 2: percent off sale, and I was like, why not.
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  Speaker 3: I love a Chemist Warehouse shout out we always we do.
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  Speaker 1: We talk about them all the time.
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  Speaker 2: So there was a fifty percent sale on it, and
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  Speaker 2: I ended up just being like, you know what, I'm
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  Speaker 2: in isolation. I'm playing with new makeup. Their foundation is flawless.
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  Speaker 2: The reason I bought it is because there was a
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  Speaker 2: lot of talk on the beauty forums that I frequent
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  Speaker 2: which is probably a little known fact about me that
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  Speaker 2: it is a dupe for the Amani Silk Foundation, And
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, I own both and I
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  Speaker 2: adore both. It is so good. Their concealer is really
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  Speaker 2: good or whit it does oxidize slightly. And their lip treatments,
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  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, the lip treatments, like I think it's
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  Speaker 2: like ten bucks or less like money win.
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  Speaker 4: The Ordinary is obviously the budget skincare brand. But is
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  Speaker 4: it as good as we think it is?
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  Speaker 5: I am because you said here about what are the
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  Speaker 5: pros and cons? So for me, like the biggest con
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  Speaker 5: is the biggest pro so because you're going to have
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  Speaker 5: to read up on ingredients. So if you want to
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  Speaker 5: use the Ordinary and you want to like use it properly,
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  Speaker 5: you're going to have to get really skincare savvy because
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  Speaker 5: each of their serums is a different ingredient and you
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  Speaker 5: may need to lay out multiple theorems. So if you're
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  Speaker 5: a minimalist, you may end up with more more I
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  Speaker 5: guess steps in your routine because instead of getting one
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  Speaker 5: serum that has nice cinamide and you know all the
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  Speaker 5: different ingredients that you want, you just have the nice
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  Speaker 5: cinamide as a serum on its own. So I personally
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  Speaker 5: think that that is a good thing because I love
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  Speaker 5: learning about skincare.
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  Speaker 1: So that's just me.
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  Speaker 5: But I remember when I first discovered it, I was like,
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  Speaker 5: what is nice cinnamied? Like, I don't even know where
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  Speaker 5: to begin, so you've got to start reading up on it.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't say like hyjation.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Hannah, but what is nice cinnamie?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Joel, hand that one over.
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  Speaker 4: I trust.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like you know it.
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  Speaker 5: It's B three. So it's vitamin B three not B five.
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  Speaker 5: That's right, Joe's pantheonoles. Yeah, so vitamin B three. It
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  Speaker 5: helps with oil production and soothes the skin and protects
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  Speaker 5: your skins barrier.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I got that right.
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  Speaker 3: I did well done, gold Stop.
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  Speaker 1: Gold Staff for Hamm.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really impressed, but I'm definitely not in a position
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  Speaker 2: to correct you with you correct So nice in am
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  Speaker 2: I great? The ordinary?
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  Speaker 1: Great?
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  Speaker 2: But like, why are they so much cheaper than every
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  Speaker 2: other skin care brand? And you know, how are they
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  Speaker 2: able to be so cheap in comparison? Is everybody else
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  Speaker 2: just taking us for a bit of a ride?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a really good question. That's something that
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  Speaker 3: comes up a lot, and just to touch on Hannah's
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  Speaker 3: point as well, I think a mistake that a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people make is just buying the entire range because
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  Speaker 3: it's cheap, without checking that the products they're buying are
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  Speaker 3: actually suitable for their skin type or are going to
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  Speaker 3: target their concerns. You're just even if it is cheap,
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  Speaker 3: you are wasting money buying unnecessary products that you probably
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  Speaker 3: don't need. You might need five products from their range
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  Speaker 3: to see good results, you probably don't need fourteen. But
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a mistake a lot of people make.
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  Speaker 3: But when it comes to the affordability of the brand,
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  Speaker 3: they save money by saving on marketing, saving on packaging,
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  Speaker 3: and by using formulas that are tried and tested formulas.
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  Speaker 3: They're things that they're combinations of ingredients that we know
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  Speaker 3: work well together, or they're isolated ingredients that don't require
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  Speaker 3: a lot of scientific research to go into them to
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  Speaker 3: be able to formulate them into an effective formula.
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  Speaker 5: We had an episode with one of the co founders
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  Speaker 5: and she explained it really well. She likened it to
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  Speaker 5: your generic aspirin. So aspirin's been around for a really,
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  Speaker 5: really long time. So when you think about that, single ingredient.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's been around and it's tried and tested,
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  Speaker 5: as Joe said, so they haven't you know, the amount
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  Speaker 5: of scientific research that needs to go into it.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't need it because it's tried and tested.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And the reason that your cosmeceutical ranges are
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  Speaker 3: more expensive is because it takes a lot of scientific research,
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  Speaker 3: and that's very expensive when they're formulating brand new products
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  Speaker 3: and you know, formulas that have never been used before,
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  Speaker 3: or an ingredient combinations before exactly, and the delivery systems
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  Speaker 3: there you go harder everything up. You act like you
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  Speaker 3: don't know that, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know you well, well, it's interesting because deacm, who own
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  Speaker 5: the Ordinary, have a sister brand called Neod, and Neod
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  Speaker 5: is at that like a higher price point, and that's
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  Speaker 5: because they've got a lot of scientific research going into
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  Speaker 5: these formulations and the delivery systems of their serums. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: even Decim have their own their own kind of sister
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  Speaker 5: brand that's at that higher price.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of love that because that's like a money win.
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  Speaker 2: You guys are essentially saying it's like buying, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the home brand, because you don't get so caught up on,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the branding and the marketing. You just want
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: the job to do the job. Like you're going to
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: go buy paracetamol. It's going to be the same active ingredients.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: It's going to do the same job. It'll get rid
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: of your headache. But what you're saying is there's a
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: skincare brand for that, and that's kind of awesome, especially
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: for our community who are young. They are us, and
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: you know, we don't have endless amounts of money to
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: just spend on serum after serum, Like everybody knows this already,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: but I'm obsessed with skincare, so the amount of time
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: I spend looking at it. But some serums can be
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: like hundreds of dollars, and at the end of the day,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: that's actually not reasonable to expect that everybody in our
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: community is actually able to afford to, you know, spend
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: hundreds of dollars on ten different serums to have on
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: their nightstand. Like it just doesn't make sense. So I
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: love that. I love that so much. But George King,
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: do we have another question?
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: But we do so sidestepping a little bit here. Do
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: I serums and masks actually do anything? Are they worth
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: spending our money on.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Or are they just like really fancy things that we
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: can do and take photos of and put them on
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Facebook and Instagram. Is that a thing?
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, Joe, you would be able to reference that
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: episode that we did on I serums that they're not
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: actually one hundred percent necessary.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: It's nice to have.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: But I would say for this question, is any beauty
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: necess Like, I don't feel like any view is actually necessary.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: But I love a sheet mask. I just love them,
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: and there's even affordable ones. And I was going to
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: say the Larel Paris revit a lift filler, replumping and
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: smoothing sheet masks. They're really affordable and it's just it
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: really gives your skin such a big drink of water
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: when it needs it.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: So that's my view.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Jo.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely second your comments around the I Cream
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Slash serum. I do have an I serum that I
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: absolutely love, though, and it's that Murad dark circle corrector,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: and that actually made a difference for me and nothing
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: that ever targets dark circles really makes a difference. So
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: that was amazing. But we did speak to your dermatologists
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: that said that pretty much you can take your active
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: serums as long as they're not resurfacing under the eyes
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: and still get that nice hydration and plumping effect that
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: you would get from using an I serum. But when
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: it comes to masks, I always get asked what my
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: favorite clay or mud masks are, And I don't have
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: the skin type for a clay or mud mask because
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: I'm not oily, I'm not congested. So I think a
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: lot of people expect the mask that they see advertised
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: on Instagram to fix change worth of acne and it's
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: just not going to. Like, don't fall for marketing all
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: the time. Always do your own research and see if
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: that product is actually suitable for your skin type and
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: your concerns, because if I used a clay mask, my
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: skin would dry the f out, so I just prefer
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: to use something really hydrating. But I do love a mask, Victoria.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: I am obsessed with the Aspects probatic masks, so I'm
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: sure you can back that one up.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I literally have it sitting beside me because my friends
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: that aspect were so kind and sent me a few gifts,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: and that is one of them. And I opened it
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: and I saw it and I was stoked. Honestly, I
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: was so excited to see another tub because I'm nearly
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: out of my first one. But I also think, guys,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: we missed a massive opportunity here. All of us are
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Melbourne based, all of us are currently podcasting from home,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: and we totally could have all been wearing face masks
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: doing this. I feel like we missed that opportunity.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: I turn up to meetings with sheet masks. I turned
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: up with this s day Lord to do this power
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: foil mask, which is just it's like so lux and beautiful,
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: and I turned up to a meeting wearing it, and
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: I was like, hey, sorry, but like I've got something
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: on later I need to wear.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I need to put a sheet mask on.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we don't. We don't do that. I mean,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I send my team skincare, but I've never actually said
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: to them, let's turn up to the meetings with our
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: sheet masks on Georgia. I just feel like next week's
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: podcast recording is going to look a little bit different.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Could be a thing.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I'm so here for that to it.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Just on the masks, guys, I actually don't think I've
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: ever done one, Like, are you okay?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Have you sorry? Have you even been in lockdown?
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: You're not living your best life, but also just call
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: something up here. Georgia. I've literally gifted you sheet masks.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: It's still in my room. But so how regularly are
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: we doing though? Is that like a once a week,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: once a day, once a year. Never?
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I think once a week.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: I mean I've overdone the masks and ended up with
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: like you know, you don't want to overdo any of
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: your skincare because I've been in that situation and you
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: end up with an impaired barrier. So I would so
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: once a week that's enough for me, especially if you've
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: got not that you do at the moment. But if
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: you've got a big event on sheet mask the night
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: before to prep your skin.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: I would agree with that.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Great recommendation. Great recommendation because I also want to give
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: myself more permission to do more.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Sheet This is your permission, thank you, my friend.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: But also the idea that we'll have been one day
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: again suit maybe so just to really attract you.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Okay, moving on now to budget friendly sunscreens that don't
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: feel greasy or heavy. We mentioned earlier. There's quite a
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: few that are affordable, but what are your go tos?
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Well, my personal go tos aren't necessarily what we'd say
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: are affordable. I don't think how.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Do I vote them, although I want to hear them
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: all and we'll talk about affordable and not affordable, like
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: do you have a favorite though shes spill the beans
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: come on.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but I this is the one thing that
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: I can't go budget on is my sun's screen because
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: I'm like, like you said, Victoria, I'm super fussy about
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: texture and finish. I've tried pretty much every sunscreen under
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: the sun, and it's such a personal thing sunscreen. So
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: I actually think, instead of saving on the SBF, why
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: don't you have your SBF be your moisturizer and your
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: primer as well. Ultraviolet do skin screens which have skincare
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: benefits and they work with with your makeup too, so
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: I think that is like a good option. I think
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: they're forty they're forty two dollars, but that's your moisturizer
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: and your SBF and your primer all in one.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: So I use their Supreme Screen. Yeah, so I do win.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: That's li fifteen bucks per product. That's pretty much Priceline prices.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're getting the quality you will, I assure you,
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: like if you haven't used Ultraviolet Supreme Screen like it is.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: Everyone that I speak to that's tried it, like, can't
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: go back once you go.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I've seen yeah, once I've seen all of the reviews online.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna have to order some because the
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: people that do use it, it's like a cult item. When
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: it first came out, I tried to order it and
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: it was sold out on their website. And now I
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: think the hype hasn't died down, but they've probably been
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: able to provide more product. I should actually order it
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: because I'm such an advocate of wearing sunscreen twenty four
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: seven or when you're even going near a window. So no,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be one of my team.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: You won't well with this one. You won't feel like
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: you're wearing green. You'll feel like you're wearing a really
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: nice moisturizer. It's beautiful, yeah.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And it smells nice as well.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: So this is the thing for me. I don't want smell,
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: I don't want taste. I don't want it to smell
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: or feel or look like sunscreen. I just want it
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: to be like a moisturizer. And this one feels like
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: a really nice moisturizer. This is my aspect Fighter stuff.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: This is my version.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I feel like you guys are going to make my
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: skincare routine incredibly expensive because I've got my Spider stat
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and I've also got my Budget Cancer Council sunscreen, which
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I currently like, and I'm going to try a more
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: expensive sunscreen. And we just like slowly upping the ante
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: and having a little bit of lifestyle creep within my
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: beauty skin care range. So look, I'm not mad about it,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: but like I probably need to control myself.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: There's nothing like an investment in skincare, though, at least
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: when you're investing in skincare, you know it's a long
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: term investment. Just to put a little finance talk in there.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: This is so Raley. No, I love it.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Or Joe and I always talk about because we we're
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: like always conscious of I guess prices when we talk
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: about things on the podcast, we always say cost per use.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: So like if you invest in it, if you invest
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: in like a really good electrical item and it's going
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: to cause less damage on your hair, like it's a
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: cost per use.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I always think about it like that, just like a
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: cost per waar.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I think that that is absolutely fair. I'm going to
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: take it and I'm going to run with that another
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: question before we justify ourselves out of it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Do okay?
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: So which products are essential in a typical beauty routine,
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: which order do we put them on in? And what
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: does a morning versus nighttime routine look like? So quite
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: a big question, so many guests.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Georgia Kings, that is a pretty big question. But I
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: think it really needs to come down to what your
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: needs are for your skin. I tend to avoid posting
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: my exact skincare routines because I don't want people to
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: go out and purchase everything that I use thinking that
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: their skin is going to need the same stuff that
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Midan does because it's not always the case.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I'm never going to look like you like every product
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: under the sun to look like you, and like if
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: you post you just routine promise that goodbye.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I just get a lot of people saying like, oh,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: can you post more of your routines because they want
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: to buy everything that I'm using, And I'm sure the
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: same goes for you, Huna. A lot of people want
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: to know exactly what you're using, but they may not
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: necessarily have the same skin type or concerns that you do,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: so the products that you use really should come down
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: to what your concerns are and what your skin type is,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: and you can be as basic or as complex as
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: you want to be, depending on your budget. As we
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: said earlier, like with the Ordinary, you can buy six
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: products from their range and that'll probably cost you under
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: fifty bucks and you'll still see some really really good
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: results and be taking care of your skin. Or you
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: can spend five hundred dollars on a cosmeceutical routine and
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: still have amazing results on your skin. And it just
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: really is personal preference as to what you use. In
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: a general sense with ingredients or products, I would be
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: using your antioxidants and vitamin c's in the morning with
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: your SBS, and then in the evening using your resurfacing
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: acids like your AHAs and glycolic acids and retinols at
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: night because they tend to make you a bit more
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: sensitive to the sun, so keep those at night, put
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: your vitamin c's in the morning with your SBF, and
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: anything else can kind of be relatively flexible, like your
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: hyaluronic acids and your vitamin BES can be used at
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: both times of the day.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I also have a question to just like weasele in here.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I've heard and I know this is true, but I
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: don't know which one of it it is. But what
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: skin care products can't we mix together? Are there like
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: some nightmare matches made in hell? I don't know.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: It's more just around what's going to cause irritation on
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: the skin. So mixing your acids like AHA's with retinol
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: in most skin types will cause a little bit of irritation. However,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: in some skins that are a bit thicker or they're
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: really accustomed to active ingredients, you could probably get away
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: with using those two together, and then probably avoiding your
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: vitamin c's with your retinols as well, because they are
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: both highly stimulating ingredients on the skin. So using your
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: vitamin C in the morning is that's a better time
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: to use vitamin C anyway, But splitting those up at
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: different times of the day. But there really isn't much
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Elsey you can't used together, to be honest.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: All right, We're getting to the end now, guys. So
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: question eight, what are the best value for money brands
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: that are also cruelty free? Because that did come up
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: quite a bit in the thread on our Facebook group.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so obviously the ordinary are up there. You'd actually
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: be surprised by how many brands are cruelty free.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: A lot of our favorite cosmeceutical brands are cruelty free,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Alpha h asap aspect, a lot of our Australian brands are.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: And then you've got brands like Walida, which I love,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: their skin food, Doctor Browners I use to wash my brushes,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: but that's like a multi use castile soap. Grown Alchemist
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: is great as well, Hannah, did you have any.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: Let's say, yeah, I had Salt by Hendrix was one.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: That's another Aussie brand, yet one that I was going
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: to say that's actually look, it's not like the ordinary
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: price point. But Biology is a really good one because
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: their whole philosophy is you only need their one serum.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: This is a really foreign concept for me when I
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: first heard it. But you just need one serum and
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: you don't actually put a moisturizer over the top, you
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: just use your SPF.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: So if you're looking to pare back your routine, I.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: Think Biology is a really good one that is also
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: cruelty free.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I love that idea, but you could not convince me
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: to get rid of my mind.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we said. We spoke to one of
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: the founders and we were like, yeah, no, that's not
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: gonna happen.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I love that. I love that.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: No, I use them for travel.
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: For travel, it's really good because you only need to
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: take one serial when you travel.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: That's actually quite Yeah.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Maybe it does fit into my routine in some which way. Yeah. Again,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Cold Dead Hands pried out.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: So I feel like we know the answer to this
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: next question. But is it worth spending money on cosmaceutical
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: brands like Victoria Johan Hannah's favorite aspect?
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: In my opinion, yes it is. But that's the background
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: that I've come from, and I've been using cosmeceuticals since
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: I was eighteen. I'm twenty seven now, so I still
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: looks eighteen.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Guys, if the results don't speak for them matter now
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Joe looks twelve.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: I really do believe in cosmeceuticals, and some of these
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: brands just put so much effort into formulating these amazing
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: products that have such an amazing impact on the skin.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I think when it comes to price point, though, Cosmeceuticals
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: aren't in reach for everybody, and that's a real shame
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: because they are amazing products. But that's where brands like
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: The Ordinary come in and can kind of meet you halfway.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: But as we said before about The Ordinary, they're isolated ingredients,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: so you might be having to buy five of their
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: serums for one cosmeceutical serum to get the same kind
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: of ingredient mix. So that's kind of how I would
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: frame my answer to that without saying how much I
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: really love cosmeceuticals, Manna, what do you reckon?
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: I was going to say, it's personal preference. Just for myself.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: I've seen incredible results using brands like ASPN Aspect, and
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: I think for me, I find that I get less
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: irritation from using those products. And I also did skin
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: scans pre and post starting on like a whole new
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: Aspect routine because I had very very bad sun damage
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: and I was really blown away by the results. But
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: what I would say is the best ingredient that you
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: can use for anything like sun damage or anti aging
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: is SBF. So I think the thing that we've reached, Yeah,
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: I think the thing that Joe and I have learned all.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: The thing I learned is that of all the ingredients
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: that you should be using, you need SBFC number one.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: So there's absolutely no point at all in using cosmeceuticals
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: if you're not using an SBF daily. Yeah, there's zero point.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: You're just throwing money down.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: You're not protecting your face from the harsh Australian sun.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're on the same day.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: You're looking a little bit guilty.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Over prevention is better than having a yes for it.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: But Joanna, I actually do want to go back to
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: a point that you made before that was really important
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: to me and probably to the greater shees on the
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: money community, and that is that this stuff is sometimes
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: not accessible by everybody and this is such a luxury
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: to have. And whilst we're talking about you know, loving
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: our moisturizer and stuff like that does not mean it
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: is expected that absolutely everybody goes out and has a
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: beauty routine. Like, if you're interested in this, then fantastic,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: but if you're not, it is actually a really privileged
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: position for us to be in to be able to,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: you know, spend our income on beauty and skincare, when
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: that's a privilege denied to a lot of people. So
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to point out that we are you know,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: we're all on this page together, and like Hannah, Joanna,
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  Speaker 2: Georgia and I have had this conversation before where we
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  Speaker 2: just know that we are so lucky to be able
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  Speaker 2: to have these conversations and buy these products. But I
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  Speaker 2: would hate for anyone in our community to think that
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  Speaker 2: it is an essential to have this. It's not. It's
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  Speaker 2: such a luxury. But yeah, that's just my little side
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  Speaker 2: rand because she's on the Money podcast without a Victoria
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  Speaker 2: Rant classic.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So I don't know half of the words in
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  Speaker 4: this question, so wish to me luck our product the
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  Speaker 4: way to go, or in order to best take care
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  Speaker 4: of our skin, should we be getting certain facials done
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  Speaker 4: at intervals as well? I'm wondering if the fuss behind
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  Speaker 4: led light therapy, microcurrent facials, and microderm abrasion are legit
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  Speaker 4: and something we should be looking into if if taking
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  Speaker 4: care of our skin on a budget is a priority
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  Speaker 4: for us.
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  Speaker 3: A great job reading that question out, quite a challenge
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  Speaker 3: that one. My answer to this one is that if
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  Speaker 3: you have as serious concern that you're trying to treat
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  Speaker 3: and nothing topically is treating that. For example, if you
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  Speaker 3: have like pitted scarring from acne, for example, you've got
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  Speaker 3: quite serious pigmentation, or you suffer from rosasia like myself,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes topical ingredients just can't effectively treat those concerns, So
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  Speaker 3: it would be worth going and spending your money on
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: treatments as opposed to buying all these topical products hoping
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  Speaker 3: they're going to do something when in reality they may
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  Speaker 3: not achieve the result that you're looking for. But I
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  Speaker 3: do I don't think that it's necessary. If you're keeping
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  Speaker 3: up and maintaining a great routine and a consistent routine,
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  Speaker 3: and you're using your skincare daily or using your SBF daily,
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  Speaker 3: you can really maintain quite healthy skin. But it is
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  Speaker 3: nice to have a treatment every once in a while,
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  Speaker 3: Like everyone loves getting a facial occasionally. I'm sure, I'm
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: sure it's not just us, but it really isn't something
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  Speaker 3: that's absolutely necessary in a skincare routine. And a lot
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  Speaker 3: of dermal clinicians and dermatologists will also say that a
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  Speaker 3: professional treatment is nothing without the home care. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I would also say that there's also a ritual aspect
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  Speaker 5: of all of this, because I think something that I've
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  Speaker 5: learned in Lockdown is that I don't need a manicure
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  Speaker 5: and pedicure, but I really effing want one and I
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: really miss it.
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  Speaker 1: And so it's not like a massage, like I don't
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  Speaker 1: need a massage.
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  Speaker 5: I've got nothing physically wrong with my back, but I
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  Speaker 5: want one so badly, and I've had chemical peels and facials,
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  Speaker 5: and it's for me. It's like the experience, and like
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  Speaker 5: that the experience part of it. And I really believe
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  Speaker 5: in spending money on experiences. That's why I travel so much.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't know whether that's against the advice of
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  Speaker 5: this podcast, but that's just me.
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  Speaker 2: I spend no, No, it aligns to the value. Everybody
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  Speaker 2: I podcast will know that. I'll say, if it aligns
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  Speaker 2: to your goals and values, like heck, yes, get it done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So my one of my values is definitely that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I love to spend my money on experiences. So whether
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  Speaker 5: that's you know, going to get a massage or going
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  Speaker 5: on a trip, whatever it is. Like, I think there's
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  Speaker 5: like a ritual aspect to going to get a facial.
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  Speaker 5: So I mean it's a yes, it's a yes from me,
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  Speaker 5: but you're right, it's everyone's got goals and different values.
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  Speaker 3: So and you can learn a lot about your skin
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  Speaker 3: by just going and having a facial with a dermal
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  Speaker 3: clinician like you. Often they have these observed scan as
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  Speaker 3: or busier scanners, and Hannah and I've both had these
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  Speaker 3: skin scans done. It tells you a lot about your
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: skin that you maybe didn't know because you can't see
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  Speaker 3: that stuff on the surface. So it does help inform
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  Speaker 3: your decisions on products that you might buy that are
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: going to be effective on your skin, instead of wasting
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: money on stuff that you don't need.
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  Speaker 2: Georgia, do we have any other questions or do you
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: think that Joe and Hannah are going to leave us?
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  Speaker 4: We have one more and I'm actually pretty keen to
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  Speaker 4: know the answer as well, So don't leave us yet, ladies.
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  Speaker 4: What is your suggestion for fine lines and wrinkles to
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: people who don't want botox? Is there a mystical magical
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: serum or cream out there to rescue us?
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  Speaker 5: I think I should answer this show. Yeah, as someone
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  Speaker 5: that gets botox, I'm going to say that there is
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  Speaker 5: no mystical magical serum or cream. And what I would
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: say about botox is that, oh I don't. I just
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: want to be honest, I and that actually does work
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  Speaker 5: in a way that is magical.
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  Speaker 1: That does that make I don't.
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  Speaker 5: Know how to say that, because what botox does it
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: actually relaxes the muscles, so the lines will like magically disappear.
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  Speaker 5: What I always say to people that message me on
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  Speaker 5: and they're like, oh my god, what are you using.
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  Speaker 5: You've got like no wrinkles on your forehead, And I'm like, well,
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: I get botox, so I wouldn't want someone to look
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  Speaker 5: at me and think that that's a serum doing it.
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  Speaker 5: What cerums can do is really help up what I've noticed.
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  Speaker 5: And we always go back to j Loo is j Loo.
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  Speaker 5: Yes she might get whatever she gets, we don't know,
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  Speaker 5: but she has beautiful skin texture, and like, I think
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: that that beautiful skin texture and the health of your skin,
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: mine in particular, has been.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Improved by the use of high quality skin care.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought botox actually just like stopped you moving.
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  Speaker 2: But you're saying it actually changes your skin texture as well, Like.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no, botox doesn't change the texture of your skin, Joe.
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  Speaker 5: Do you sort of know the technical It relaxes the muscles.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So anything any anti wrinkle product will It's designed
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: to relax the area, so any dynamic lines or static
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: lines that are there when you're resting, it helps to
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: soften the appearance of them by relaxing the muscle. But
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Hannah's saying, in terms of texture, that's where your skin
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: care comes in. And when you're seeing someone like Jalo
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  Speaker 3: who's in her fifties and she's got this amazing beautiful
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: skin texture that's that can't be from botox or fillers,
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: which everyone loves to throw around like, oh Jlo must
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: get botox and fillers, So what if she wants to
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: get botox or Fillers's amazing? Who cares?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I never understand why that's something I know. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: oh cool, Like is she happy? Does yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Great?
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Do I want to look like Jayla fifty? Yes? And
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: if you keep listening to these she's on the money
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: and adore Beauty IQ podcasts, you're gonna one look at
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: but to be as riches her, it's gonna be fantastic.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: What I would say the big magic though, just really
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: quickly to finish off with the biggest, biggest magic, stay
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: out of the Sun and U fifty.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say exactly the same thing I
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: was going to say. My answer to that question was
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: gonna be yeha.
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  Speaker 2: Is that our number one takeaway? Yeah?
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly there is nothing so our number one takeaway.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: There's nothing else we can recommend.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: More sun is the biggest cause of damage I believe
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: for your skin.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: And is that like a money win because we won't
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: have to spend heaps and heaps on skincare and repairing
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: treatments when we're older if we just wear sun cream now, if.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: You just stay out of the sun and where you're
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: a SPF in your twenties, yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I guess that's it.
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  Speaker 4: That's all we have time for today, guys.
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  Speaker 2: So Hannah, it's over to you.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, Geordere, it's time now to wrap up the show.
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