Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / Exposing the Root Causes of Underperformance
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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the show today, expect to hear some noise
- 0:04in the background. What we're going to tackle today
- 0:07is how to know if your poor performance at work is your
- 0:10fault or if it's your orga's fault, if it's the company's
- 0:13fault. Now, the reason why I'm tackling
- 0:15this today is because I spent some time in a conversation with
- 0:17the salesperson yesterday and he said a couple of things that
- 0:21made me quite worried, but actually stuff that I hear about
- 0:25in Nigeria, you know, you know, we Nigerians can be I mean the
- 0:28Nigerian work environment. So it's not unusual to hear
- 0:33these sorts of things. But it made me worried because
- 0:36the fellow in our conversation said things like they make me
- 0:39feel like I'm useless. That's talking about his auger,
- 0:42you know, the managers them he would say things like I don't
- 0:46even know what I'm doing self. He would also say things like,
- 0:50look, I just want to be successful.
- 0:52And he also said that's when he was talking to the managers them
- 0:56when they were going over his here's a PowerPoint presentation
- 1:00that he was supposed to deliver with a client.
- 1:02This is what he said. He said they said I was, I
- 1:06wasn't prepared and I was unfocused.
- 1:09So for those of you who have been working in the Niger work
- 1:14environment, these sorts of things are typical.
- 1:15So nothing out of the ordinary. Now I know that for those of you
- 1:19who are listening from the UK are listening from America
- 1:23because you American people, I think are like 30 something
- 1:26percent now UK people, you're very small shop not up to 1%.
- 1:30So for you, you can American folks, I know that this sounds
- 1:33like sacrilege and sounds like verbal abuse.
- 1:38My guess is that those of you calling in, sorry, listening
- 1:41from Ghana or maybe China maybe for you guys, you know, that's
- 1:44just the way it is as well. So it's just Niger.
- 1:47It's just the way it is. In the future, I hope to explore
- 1:51some assertive ways that we can deal with these sorts of
- 1:53situations. You know, when we're interacting
- 1:56with our line manager, our manager, the CEO, the whoever is
- 2:02responsible for tracking your performance, you know, some
- 2:06assertive ways of standing up yourself and then dealing with
- 2:08whatever legitimate criticisms that these people have for your
- 2:12performance. But today, that's what we're
- 2:13going to be tackling basically. So if you're in this sort of
- 2:16situation and you're worried about your performance, how do
- 2:18you know if it's your fault? How do you know if it's the
- 2:20office's fault? Now if you'd love to connect
- 2:23with me and explore opportunities, just connect me
- 2:27and explore opportunities, then call me.
- 2:29The number is 08064662140. Also, you can connect with me on
- 2:35socials. I spend most of my time on
- 2:36LinkedIn, the name to look for establishing my IED.
- 2:40So like I said, we're trying to figure out whose fault the
- 2:44performance is bad, It's poor. Whose fault?
- 2:51OK, yes. So this fellow started off by
- 2:54assuming that this thing was his problem, but then I asked him a
- 2:56couple of questions. Like I always say, most of you
- 2:59should do when you're in front of a potential customer,
- 3:01potential client, because you can before you can solve your
- 3:04clients problems, your customers problems, you actually need to
- 3:07have ask some questions and figure out exactly what is is
- 3:09going on. So when I asked the guys some
- 3:11questions, we're able to figure out a couple of things and I
- 3:14hope I was able to highlight a couple of things for the young
- 3:16chap. And this is what we arrived at.
- 3:20So I wanted to know how much training that he had received on
- 3:22the job and he said he has received none.
- 3:26The training he has received is 0.
- 3:29Even though his immediate hogger is an experienced salesperson, a
- 3:34lady actually. And you know, they say she's
- 3:36legit, like she's the real deal. So she knows her stuff.
- 3:40You know, everybody says she's a pro.
- 3:42But OK, you have a stellar performance performer like this
- 3:45on your team, but you don't have this sort of person train the
- 3:51younger people, train the people who are on the come up.
- 3:54So how much training had the guy received?
- 3:56Zero. I tried to figure out what his
- 3:58job description was and it turns out that the guy was actually
- 4:01had for marketing. But then they did some
- 4:04restructuring and it's OK. You know what?
- 4:06You you will now start selling. And of course, some people don't
- 4:11appreciate this, but actually is a difference between marketing
- 4:15and sales. The kind of skills that you need
- 4:18to be successful at sales don't necessarily mean you're going to
- 4:22be successful at marketing and vice versa.
- 4:24Because we're a good marketing communications professional
- 4:28doesn't mean you're going to be able to be a very good sales
- 4:32person. Because for sales, we're usually
- 4:34talking to customers one-on-one. We own the relationship.
- 4:38We're on the phone, we're going to people's offices, we're
- 4:41sitting in people's cars, people are coming over to our office.
- 4:45It's a different thing that people who are in the marketing
- 4:47department who sit down, brainstorm, come up with some
- 4:50text, come up with some graphics, come up with some
- 4:53strategy, run some ads, you know, it's a totally different
- 4:56thing. So really is not fair to hire
- 5:00somebody for marketing. That's what we hired you for.
- 5:02And then all of a sudden you say, OK, you know what, because
- 5:05of this and this and that and that, or I'll come and do sales
- 5:07and you expect that that person is going to succeed.
- 5:11So training 0. Job description here was had for
- 5:15marketing. Now they want him to come and be
- 5:18selling company resources. What have they given him to do
- 5:22the job 0. Phone Zero is his own phone.
- 5:26CRM 0. If he doesn't even know what CRM
- 5:30is, Computer Encore 0. So you take someone, you hire
- 5:37them for one job, you now switch them to another job.
- 5:42You don't give them training, you don't give them resources.
- 5:47Can we really say in this circumstances that really is the
- 5:52young man's fault, that he's not performing?
- 5:55These are the real problems. It was hard for a role.
- 5:58The job description changed. He received no training in who
- 6:02the ideal customer is. He received no training on what
- 6:06the selling framework is. He received no training on what
- 6:09to expect when you are selling and hitting the road.
- 6:12He received no training in how to manage prospects or client
- 6:15relations or how to set expectation.
- 6:18He received none of that training.
- 6:20In fact, they told him that selling is easy, but he can
- 6:24learn how to sell through ChatGPT.
- 6:27Is selling easy? Yeah, in the sense selling is
- 6:30very, very easy. After all this would talk, Abby.
- 6:33But The thing is, selling is easy.
- 6:36Or it gets easier if you have the knowledge and if you have
- 6:41the framework, if you have the skill set, then it's easy.
- 6:45It's the same thing now. If I go and meet LeBron James or
- 6:48Michael Jordan, they will say how basketball is easy now.
- 6:51It's not hard. Of course it's not hard for them
- 6:54because they have been practicing since primary one and
- 6:58they've been playing for 20-30 years, 40 years.
- 7:02So of course for them it will be easy for me that the last time I
- 7:06touched the basketball was 20 years ago.
- 7:09Would you say that basketball is easy?
- 7:13So it's the same thing. So because selling involves
- 7:16talking phone call, everybody thinks it's easy.
- 7:19It can be done so well in the sense it, it can be easy if you
- 7:23have the knowledge, if you have the framework, if you have the
- 7:26skill set, then it can be easy. Then this whole thing of selling
- 7:30with ChatGPT, because now ChatGPT is in the world and
- 7:34Google Gemini and everything. Some employers just assume that
- 7:38the work is done. And unfortunately that's not the
- 7:41case because there's ChatGPT now, it doesn't mean your
- 7:46employees. Everybody will just become
- 7:48superstar salesperson overnight because yes, you can sell with
- 7:54ChatGPT, but only if you have sales expertise.
- 8:00Because like Americans say, the Americans say a fool with a tool
- 8:05is still a fool. Let me repeat, a fool with a
- 8:09tool is still a fool. If your employee was a dance
- 8:13before ChatGPT was invented. Now that ChatGPT hasn't been
- 8:17invented, your employee is still going to be a dance.
- 8:20ChatGPT is not going to flip the script overnight.
- 8:24If your employee, your sales people were not properly trained
- 8:27and educated before ChatGPT was unleashed into the world, it's
- 8:32not going to make much of a difference now.
- 8:36Because if people don't have the knowledge or the expertise, they
- 8:41are not going to know which advice.
- 8:44They're not going to know how to prompt char GBT to give them
- 8:46advice. And they're not even going to
- 8:48know which of the advice that char GBT gives them.
- 8:51Which advice is going to be workable, which advice is going
- 8:55to be realistic, which advice is going to be suitable or
- 8:59unsuitable to the particular context.
- 9:02So if any of you have employees listening now and you think, OK,
- 9:04char GPT is out there, so therefore people just know how
- 9:08to sell. It's not like that.
- 9:10It doesn't work that way. In fact, this is an example that
- 9:13I gave to someone. We're talking medicine and we're
- 9:16talking about GPT and how it applies to medicine.
- 9:18We're talking radiology. And then from there we started
- 9:20talking, talking in surgery. And this is the example that I
- 9:23gave for me, I'm a layman. I know nothing about surgery, so
- 9:30of course I can take char GBT and say give me instructions for
- 9:33how to perform a subdural hematoma, blah, blah, blah,
- 9:37blah, blah. Let's say how to operate on
- 9:38somebody's brain. Char GBT will give all the
- 9:40instructions that this is how you operate on somebody's brain.
- 9:43First of all, use a cranial whatever.
- 9:47Cut open the skull. Next identify this nerve.
- 9:50Next clamp this thing. Next, clamp that thing.
- 9:54Next, make an decision here 3 inches above.
- 9:56So you know, whatever it is, you will give all the instructions.
- 10:01But The thing is I have no training.
- 10:04So if I take charge EPT and I say let me go and perform
- 10:06surgery on somebody's somebody's heart or somebody's brain, I
- 10:10will kill somebody, somebody will die.
- 10:15But for the Doctor Who has received the training, who has
- 10:20done residency, who has done specialty, who has worked on
- 10:23cadaver and everything, If the guy goes to char GBT and says
- 10:27how do you perform subdural hematoma?
- 10:30Something something something something.
- 10:31And he gives some ideas because the guy has the know how, he
- 10:34will now know that oh char GBT has given me 12 steps from 1274
- 10:39Steps 7:00 to 12:00 is rubbish. Disregard then from steps one to
- 10:44six, no one makes sense. We can apply.
- 10:47So that's how it works. Because char GBT is here does
- 10:51not mean that your people that you didn't train to be
- 10:54salespeople should become salespeople, correct salespeople
- 10:58overnight or that people who you didn't train on marketing should
- 11:01not become good marketers overnight.
- 11:04So employers, please listen to this.
- 11:07Also employees listening if you didn't know what was up when it
- 11:12comes to sales and marketing before, don't assume that
- 11:15because ChatGPT is here, that is going to solve all your
- 11:17problems. It's not.
- 11:19You still need to get a certain level of subject matter
- 11:24expertise to be able to use these tools wisely.
- 11:28And that's the reason why on this show I keep talking time
- 11:32and time again and giving you guys realistic examples about
- 11:36when you can use ChatGPT or Google Gemini and how.
- 11:42So please, let's stop assuming that ChatGPT is here.
- 11:45And so we have reached the promised land.
- 11:48We still have not reached the promised land yet.
- 11:52So if you're an employee in this situation, are you the problem?
- 11:59Yes, you are the problem. If let me answer it the other
- 12:06way around. For an employee in this
- 12:08situation, are you the problem? You are only the problem if your
- 12:14job description is accurate, they told you they're hiring you
- 12:18for marketing and then you are doing marketing, but it turns
- 12:23out that you're not hitting your goals, then yes, the problem is
- 12:26you. You are also the problem.
- 12:30If they have trained you, and despite the training you have
- 12:34not been doing your job, then you are the problem.
- 12:37You're also the problem if they have given you enough ramp time.
- 12:42The idea behind ramp time is this, that nobody just starts
- 12:44performing immediately. You need to give somebody time
- 12:47to do their job. You know, like medical students,
- 12:49for instance. Now, you know, in university,
- 12:51you give them some time. Is it like two or three years
- 12:53where they go and cut dead bodies, They cut cadavers and
- 12:55practice everything. You don't just carry a fresh
- 13:00medical student and say, Oh yeah, go and cut open somebody's
- 13:02heart or cut open somebody's head.
- 13:04They have ram time. You practice on dummies after
- 13:08you practice on dummies, you practice on cadaver and you
- 13:11know, blah, blah, blah. And then you stay with your
- 13:13senior surgeon, your senior doctor and what, watch the
- 13:15person work before then I'll give you the scissors.
- 13:20I say scissors. What's it called?
- 13:21Give you that thing, Shah, that you used to cut up on somebody's
- 13:24chest and then start doing operation.
- 13:27So it's the same thing in business.
- 13:28People have to be given round time as well.
- 13:31How long? It depends.
- 13:33Back in the old days for those people who worked for IBM and I
- 13:38think Xerox like Tony, I think Tony Olumelu is the one who
- 13:41worked at Xerox. So back in those days they used
- 13:44to give them nine months ramp time as in we hired you today to
- 13:49start work January, but we're going to put you through sales
- 13:52training and then you're going to follow a senior person.
- 13:55You follow them on site, you follow them, you shadow them,
- 13:57you see as they're selling. But then we expect that by
- 14:02September you will hit quarter. It's not that they hired them in
- 14:06January and then they say in February, guy, why are you not
- 14:09hitting quota? But of course, you know,
- 14:11nowadays people are not. This whole thing of ramp time is
- 14:14not really in fashion anymore. But still when it comes to
- 14:19sales, let's be realistic, you need to give people some ramp
- 14:21time. You don't just have somebody
- 14:231st, January 1st and then January 31st.
- 14:25You're not asking why are you not hitting quota.
- 14:26It's for most people, it's unrealistic.
- 14:29So these are the conditions, you are the problem.
- 14:33If your job description is on point, if your guy has trained
- 14:37you, if you've been given ram time and you're still not
- 14:40achieving, then the problem is you.
- 14:43But in most cases, actually it is the Nigerian employer's
- 14:46problem because he has not trained you, he or she has not
- 14:49trained you, They've not given you resources, they've not given
- 14:54you ram time, they've not given you a mentorship as in they have
- 14:56given you zero. They just hired you and they
- 14:59said I'll go and do this job. So let me just wrap up this way.
- 15:06If you work in a company and your employer provides training
- 15:10and resources, then sit up because now you have no excuses.
- 15:15But for those of you who have gotten jobs, no training, no
- 15:20resources, and there's a problem, that doesn't mean that
- 15:24you can't go and look for help on your own because like this
- 15:27guy was looking for podcasts and looking for professionals that
- 15:32can train him up. That's how he's trying to solve
- 15:35the problem. If you're going to sit down
- 15:37there and raise your hand and say woe, it's me, this is
- 15:41unfair, you know, blah, blah, blah, then there's a problem.
- 15:45Excuse me. Now, part of the advantage of
- 15:49dealing with a professional or a consultant on these sorts of
- 15:52things is apart from trying to beef up your performance, we can
- 15:55also give you the right perspective, like in this young
- 15:58man's case, how he is not the problem and then also give him
- 16:02tips about how to handle the solution going forward with his
- 16:05employees. So, like, what I told him to do
- 16:07was to bite the bullet. So you go back, you say, OK,
- 16:11Madam. Yeah.
- 16:12You said I wasn't prepared and I wasn't.
- 16:15I wasn't focused. Yeah, granted, I accept.
- 16:19And during the meeting that we had, you said that my proposal
- 16:24was deficient because of 123 and 456.
- 16:28In my opinion, Olga, respectfully, I think these are
- 16:32the areas where I need to be trained up in.
- 16:36So when will you and Madam, my manager be available to walk me
- 16:43through 123 and 456 so that I can be more effective with
- 16:47future clients and then keep aware and hear what it is that
- 16:50they have to say. Now this is not a
- 16:54confrontational way. It is not an abusive way.
- 17:00How will I put it is an assertive way of dealing with
- 17:02the situation. You shouldn't just be there and
- 17:04then shop abuse. You know, if there are
- 17:08legitimate criticisms, yeah sure, own it.
- 17:11If the errors for improvement, you can throw the ball back to
- 17:15your employer to say alright, no problem.
- 17:17I accept these are the shortcomings.
- 17:21So now what are you guys going to do as my leaders, my
- 17:26employers, to make sure that I'm much more effective at my job?
- 17:30These are the areas where I'm lacking.
- 17:32When will you guys or how will you guys be available to train
- 17:36me up on this and this and this and then and that so that I can
- 17:38be much more effective? Also, would it be OK for me in
- 17:42the future if I run into these kinds of problems and these kind
- 17:45of problems to hit you up so that you and me can discuss this
- 17:48thing? Just to make sure that we
- 17:49avoided this scenario and that scenario that you're angry
- 17:53about. And then you keep quiet and
- 17:54listen, the ball is now in their court.
- 17:57So you've been assertive about the whole thing and you've kind
- 18:01of passed across the message that there's some stuff that
- 18:03needs to be done. Anyway.
- 18:06I'll make a separate podcast episode on all these other
- 18:08issues later. But bottom line is what I'm just
- 18:10trying to say is that if you're listening to this podcast and
- 18:14the reason why you found this podcast is because you've been
- 18:17thinking to yourself like, oh more, these people are making me
- 18:19feel as if I'm useless. I don't even know what I'm doing
- 18:22self. I just want to be successful.
- 18:24How high can this thing be? They say I'm more focused, they
- 18:27say I'm more prepared. They say I'm this desire of
- 18:29that. If you're currently feeling like
- 18:31that, just know that a lot of times in the Nigerian context,
- 18:35it's not your fault. But there are resources like
- 18:38this that you can take advantage of, free resources, by the way,
- 18:42because I think now on this podcast, we're almost at, I
- 18:45think we're now at 990 episodes. So free resources, plenty all
- 18:50over the Internet that you can take advantage of.
- 18:53Listen to these things, listen to them with a pen and a paper.
- 18:56Be making notes about things that you can do tomorrow, next
- 19:00tomorrow to make sure that you're much more effective at
- 19:03your job role. So whether they train you,
- 19:05whether they don't train you, just look for these things, take
- 19:07advantage of them and see how you can make your life better.
- 19:12Because after all, really, really speaking, any
- 19:16developments that you get on the job that you're responsible for,
- 19:22you're going to carry those skills with you and it's going
- 19:24to make you much more profitable and valuable in your future job
- 19:28endeavours and also in whatever business it is that you decide
- 19:31to start. So take control.
- 19:35Don't just stay there and chop abuse or feel like a victim
- 19:41again. If you'd love to connect with me
- 19:43and explore opportunities, the number again is 08064662140.
- 19:48The country code is +234. For those of you who are not
- 19:51Nigerian and then to connect with me on socials, you can find
- 19:54me on LinkedIn, the name to look for establishing my IED.
- 19:57Thanks for your time and attention.
- 19:59I'll catch you guys in the next episode.