Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / Plastic Surgery And Self-Love/Acceptance
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- 0:05Hi everybody. And welcome to the doctors.
- 0:08Psych mom show. I want everybody to subscribe
- 0:12but not only to my podcast, but I also have this private
- 0:15Facebook group and I got such an interesting question in my
- 0:18private Facebook group, which I can link to, in my description,
- 0:21in addition to subscribing to the podcast that I wanted to do
- 0:25a podcast about a to. So sometimes I'll be a little
- 0:28bit of overlap, but usually it'll be exclusive content in
- 0:33each. So this one I thought would be
- 0:35really Only interesting for you guys.
- 0:37It was a question asked about what I think about plastic
- 0:39surgery. And I recently talked in the
- 0:42private group about I did a video on how to give your kids
- 0:45positive body image. And one of my main points, there
- 0:49was to show that you have potty positive body image yourself,
- 0:53you know, and because they probably look like you so don't
- 0:57be so down on yourself, you know, and your kids probably
- 1:00will learn that they are acceptable and attractive.
- 1:04If you feel that you are Acceptable unattractive.
- 1:06Now what about the case of plastic surgery Botox this or
- 1:11whatever else? You know, so I love all that I
- 1:16do. I feel whatever science lets you
- 1:18do, do it. I myself had a boob job, I
- 1:21nursed three kids if you don't need a boob job after that I
- 1:24don't know who does. They should be given out for
- 1:26free as soon as you deliver your third baby.
- 1:29So I did that. I was happy.
- 1:31I paid for it with my advance from my book, had talk to your
- 1:34kids about your divorce. Got my boobs done, and I was
- 1:37really happy. I am still really happy.
- 1:40It is a big change. Makes you fit clothes different.
- 1:43I can buy different clothes. I never had big boobs and now
- 1:47I'm way happier. I like them and same with botox.
- 1:51I tried BOTOX for migraines, so it's covered by my insurance.
- 1:55Yay. All you have to do is have
- 1:56Decades of unremitting, chronic pain, and you finally, get
- 1:59something for free. So, since I was a little girl of
- 2:02six, I had terrible migraines. I'm Sure, that my upbringing
- 2:06didn't help. And finally when I turned about,
- 2:10I don't know. 30, 50, maybe even now even later.
- 2:14Like, 38, I don't know, I'm 41. Now they finally told me at the
- 2:19neurologist, I could try Botox and I don't expect anything
- 2:22positive, I thought Botox. In fact, this funny I thought
- 2:26that it would make me a worse psychologist because I pictured
- 2:28it being like, this Frozen face thing, like, like a person
- 2:32couldn't even smile or frown or something.
- 2:34It is not I got it all and I get more Botox in my head than the
- 2:38average person. I got 30 needles all over my
- 2:40back and my neck and my shoulders because of my
- 2:43migraines. It actually helps migraines.
- 2:45It reduces migraine frequency quite a bit.
- 2:47I was having them like every every other day at some point
- 2:51and now it's down to like once a week but anyhow.
- 2:55Um so both to add it, goes in your forehead to for the
- 2:58migraines and that's where they do it for cosmetic Botox and it
- 3:01looks great. Love it.
- 3:02I still have facial expression. Everybody knows that.
- 3:05That I can make kind of sarcastic phase as well as the
- 3:10next person. If not, I would say way better,
- 3:12that's my wheelhouse. So I I don't think anything
- 3:17about is wrong about accepting yourself, how you are and also
- 3:25changing, what you don't like as much this, the same thing as we
- 3:29do in therapy in every version of therapy for every single
- 3:33issue. DBT.
- 3:35To go behavior therapy, which is used for borderline but
- 3:38increasingly for everything. Mike practice right a DBT group,
- 3:42it's a form of therapy. That's the only empirically
- 3:44supported treatment for borderline personality disorder.
- 3:46The entire thing is predicated on the dialectic between
- 3:51acceptance and change. The idea is that a
- 3:54psychologically healthy individual can do both.
- 3:57They can accept themselves while trying to change.
- 4:00This is the basis of therapy and I deeply believe.
- 4:05Leave in therapy, you know? Otherwise wouldn't I be a fool
- 4:08right to be in this field? So for example, in couples
- 4:12counseling people come in, I don't say man, you got just both
- 4:16accept each other. You fuckers, you're never going
- 4:18to change, man. You are you just the best case
- 4:20we could do is just accept it. You man, except that the woman
- 4:25is never going to sleep with you, you woman expect that, he's
- 4:27going to be a slug on the couch, we're fine.
- 4:30We all just got to accept each other.
- 4:32Now I wouldn't make any money in my Practice.
- 4:35If that is the stupid shit that I said.
- 4:37So instead you yes you got a deeply and Unconditionally, Love
- 4:41your spouse but also work hard on changing yourself in ways
- 4:46that they would prefer. And ways that do not deeply
- 4:50betray you ethically as a human certainly.
- 4:54I mean, if your husband wants sex and you don't believe in sex
- 4:57anymore, then you really ought to get out of that marriage and
- 5:00free that man to find someone who does and you to find a
- 5:02partner who doesn't believe in sex for example, If your husband
- 5:06has a has a deep-seated deep philosophical belief that he
- 5:11really ought to never be romantic, then free him to find
- 5:15some woman that agrees with him if he can.
- 5:18But in most cases, people are understand the point that they
- 5:24need to change and that's just couples by the way, an
- 5:26individual it's much more straightforward.
- 5:28We are helping somebody love themselves.
- 5:30While also changing how they think and behave so that they
- 5:34could live a more fulfilling life.
- 5:35So, could you imagine if somebody came in to press it?
- 5:38I was like, man. You're just going to stay
- 5:40depressed. I mean that's like how it is.
- 5:41You got to accept it. Depression is biological.
- 5:44There's zero that we can do. There's no medications.
- 5:46You should try cuz you gotta love yourself and we really
- 5:49shouldn't ever try to change your thoughts because those are
- 5:52yours. So let's just sit here and look
- 5:54at each other. I mean this quite honestly not
- 5:57to be a bitch but this is not far from what some therapists do
- 6:00with support of listening. You know it's like oh let's come
- 6:03in and vent every week and Then what, you know, they get a lot
- 6:07of acceptance but they don't change and they can't be
- 6:12productive therapy. In my opinion, with My
- 6:14Philosophy, without both acceptance and change acceptance
- 6:18of where you are. And how you got there,
- 6:20frequently using family of origin work to provide insight
- 6:23and then a game plan on how you're going to change to live
- 6:27the life that you deserve and that is your best life.
- 6:30I believe in this so much. I called my group practice, best
- 6:34life Behavioral. Health, everybody should be
- 6:36living the best life they want. And if you believe that your
- 6:39best life is with breast implants, go do it, get them or
- 6:44Botox? Or I don't care what you know,
- 6:47like face tattoo, what I feel is would be crazy.
- 6:53Is saying to your kids. Okay, let's look down on those
- 6:56people. Forgetting boob jobs why they're
- 6:59doing what they want to do. What if your kid wants to get a
- 7:01boob job one day? I mean, they would know the It's
- 7:05because I would know the benefits and they might decide
- 7:07to do it. Would you want them to think
- 7:09that you would judge them? Hopefully not.
- 7:11That would be their choice, their body, you know, like
- 7:13there's hold your body, your choice.
- 7:15That goes for everything goes for tattoos goes, for Pearson
- 7:18goes for hair. Dyeing goes for everything.
- 7:20Of course when a child is under your purview you know you have a
- 7:24lot of input because you pay all the money and it's whether you
- 7:28decide that you think this is going to be a good idea that
- 7:30your job as a parent is to be, you know, their brain in certain
- 7:34ways. So you, You know, if you are 14
- 7:36year old says what I really think I want to do is tattoo a
- 7:39heart on my cheek. You may say not on my watch if
- 7:43you still want that when you're old enough to pay for it and
- 7:45live on your own live and be well.
- 7:46But I personally think this may be a decision, you might regret
- 7:50regret and my job is to protect you from those as your parent
- 7:54and I love you and you're not getting that so or you could say
- 7:58cool. I have 12 or, you know, you do
- 8:00you, you know, you could decide to do whatever you want, it's
- 8:02apparent. But the point here, Is that
- 8:06judging people for changing their appearance and seeing that
- 8:09they don't experience? Self-love is a slippery slope
- 8:12because what about people who just want to look good because
- 8:14they want to buy nice clothes clothes that they like or they
- 8:18want to work out have muscles that are more obvious or they
- 8:23want to put on makeup to accentuate their eyes because
- 8:27they feel like their eyes look better with makeup than without
- 8:30we judge everybody. There's not gonna be anybody
- 8:32left. So as I said in the The in the
- 8:36group thing like this yeah there's risks to anything.
- 8:40I grew up in a house that was super, super risk-averse because
- 8:42my parents were super super anxious we didn't even have a
- 8:45car because it might get into a car crash.
- 8:48So when you grow up like that it really changes how you feel
- 8:52about risk. If you don't take risks for
- 8:55things that you like, then why be alive?
- 8:58You know, there was some rap song, it pop song that, I'm
- 9:03super cool with this. Um, but it was like, everybody
- 9:08dies but not everybody lives. I should figure out where that
- 9:11quote comes from, and I thought that was like, super insightful
- 9:15and something that could be a personal motto, everybody dies,
- 9:18but not everybody lives. Yeah.
- 9:20If you are constricted by risk, fear can't do this because of
- 9:25this, can't do that because of that.
- 9:27Then do you ever deeply Liv? You know?
- 9:30Do you if you really don't like how you look in some way and
- 9:35you'd like to change it, change it now, what the difference is
- 9:39but what may be where the acceptance part comes in is, do
- 9:44you feel like you're a lovable person without the boob job and
- 9:47that you're worthy of love and that you're so smart successful?
- 9:50Etc, many women don't. And if that's why you're getting
- 9:53a boob job, boob jobs, not going to help therapy is going to help
- 9:56and then get your boob job. But I think that women need to
- 9:59take a page out of the book of men or at least the majority of
- 10:02men in this way. As I talked about Dog analogy.
- 10:06I used it on a podcast before, a lot of men.
- 10:08Look at weight gain, for example, as like a dog gained
- 10:12weight. I love my dog, my dog.
- 10:14Such a good dog. But man, I've been feeding my
- 10:15dog too much from the table. I'm not been taking my dog for
- 10:18walks. Look at my dog, he's so fat.
- 10:20You know, it can barely get onto the couch.
- 10:22And what I'm going to do is I'm going to change how much I feed
- 10:25them extra. I'm going to start taking him on
- 10:26some more walks in about a month.
- 10:28My dog's gonna be fit as a fiddle.
- 10:30Again, that's how men view their own weight gain, man.
- 10:34After the holidays, you like, Man, I put on 15 20 pounds.
- 10:37I got start going to the gym, but they don't say and I am not
- 10:41a good person. No one would ever love me.
- 10:45I'm an idiot. I'm just so useless.
- 10:47No, that's the type of shit that women say to themselves and we
- 10:50should really, really stop. As you got older, you stop more.
- 10:54But young women are the worst with this and, you know, they
- 10:58really conflate who they are as a person and being a person,
- 11:02worthy of love and acceptance with their weight or their
- 11:04boobs. Or their hair or whatever.
- 11:07And I mean this this is a big problem and sure you need to
- 11:13accept who you are and to love yourself and to think you're a
- 11:16good person, no matter what you look like, but also why not get
- 11:20braces or get the skin treatment that you want or put on the
- 11:24lipstick that you like, like why not?
- 11:26You know, I would want my partner to continue to try to be
- 11:30attractive for me and I would do the same for him and I feel like
- 11:35I do try to do that. Particularly if it's not, you
- 11:37know, I don't know, like a massive, huge effort, like, I
- 11:43don't even know what would be, but I guess for example, like
- 11:48if, if I thought that like, I look my best in, you know, super
- 11:53high heels but like we're going on a walk.
- 11:57That involves parking really far away from the restaurant.
- 11:59Then I might moderate that but quite honestly, if I was with a
- 12:03man who I'm Not, Who had a foot fetish, She really liked the
- 12:06heels great. He could drop me off at the
- 12:07door, like, will walk into the restaurant.
- 12:09I'll be in super high heels. Who gives a shit really?
- 12:12Like, try to be giving game and good or whatever Dan Savage
- 12:16says, about a partner. So, in terms of how you want to
- 12:19act and look for your partner, if that's your goal, try to look
- 12:23with like what they want, you know, as long as it's within
- 12:27reason, and it doesn't make you somehow feel bad about yourself.
- 12:31Now, if you go back to my podcast on marry a man who
- 12:34thinks that You are his type. Yeah, if you marry man and he's
- 12:38like you know what personally I like it if you got a boob job
- 12:42you dyed your hair blond maybe you could get some lip filler
- 12:45and basically here's a picture of my ex-girlfriend.
- 12:47Can you bring that up to the plastic surgeon?
- 12:50Well then get that marriage annulled get the hell out of
- 12:52Dodge very quickly because this man doesn't want you, but what
- 12:55most men seem to want in my experience is for the woman that
- 12:58they're already with to put on some lingerie sometimes or
- 13:01maybe, like, not wear yoga pants, like cool.
- 13:04Like, I Not want to marry a man who was around and sweat pants
- 13:07all the time either. And you're allowed to say that
- 13:10or you need to be allowed to say that within your marriage, some
- 13:14regular sort of feedback give-and-take about the partners
- 13:18looks in my mind. Now keep in mind, I have a very
- 13:21pragmatic approach because a lot of my couples work is with
- 13:25people who are struggling in the arena of sex and therefore
- 13:29attraction etcetera. But I think that a very
- 13:33Practical Preppers, Dramatic approach is the same in terms of
- 13:37self and partner and how you talk to your kids too.
- 13:42As I was saying in my video, the way when my girls say am I going
- 13:46to have big boobs? One day?
- 13:48I'm like, well a doubtful but you could either grow them or by
- 13:51them. You know, if you can't grow
- 13:53them, you could buy them. If you want them, you may not
- 13:55want them, you may want them. And I do say, if you want to
- 13:59wait until after you're done nursing because you never know
- 14:02if it's going to impede your ability to breastfeed.
- 14:05Then you do that. But like I don't think it's not
- 14:08like, oh God, I hated my body. I couldn't even come out of the
- 14:13room and sit until I got my boob job.
- 14:15Now, like my boobs just like went away after nursing three
- 14:19kids. I did not like that.
- 14:21Wasn't my favorite thing? If I didn't have the money to do
- 14:25it, I wouldn't do it. And nobody would have died, you
- 14:28know, but if you have the opportunity money and desire to
- 14:33do anything for Your looks for your basically external, dog.
- 14:38Your corporeal self in my analogy.
- 14:41Why not? And we want to preach tolerance
- 14:44to our children. So, somebody got a boob job or
- 14:48Botox, or a facelift. Cool, let them do that, you
- 14:51know, somebody got a face tattoo, cool, let them do them.
- 14:54Do I do. All those things know, do you
- 14:56who knows? You know, you're not an adult
- 14:58yet. You never know.
- 14:59I always say to my kids, you never know what you're going to
- 15:02be like as an adult. Don't look down on people doing
- 15:05things. You have no idea from when I was
- 15:08in tween, which wasn't even a term.
- 15:11Then until now I have done a million things, I never thought
- 15:15I would do. So, when you judge other people,
- 15:18you may be judging a future version of yourself.
- 15:20Don't be stupid, you know, don't view other people as bad or
- 15:25stupid when you've not been in a situation that is stupid to
- 15:29judge other people that we don't want to do unless you've been in
- 15:33their shoes and you've been them.
- 15:35M. And since we have so far, not
- 15:37figured out side sci-fi ways to be exactly in another human
- 15:41beings body and brain. You got no idea what they're
- 15:44going through and if and you can therefore not judge.
- 15:48So that is what I think about plastic surgery, what we tell
- 15:51our kids about it, and it was a great topic.
- 15:54And please, everybody, subscribe to both my podcast and my
- 15:59Facebook group if you love it. And I, if you like my content
- 16:03rather, or if you love me, The person?
- 16:06That's cool too. And I will talk to everybody
- 16:09soon. Bye.