Latest / Giving Pain Purpose with Lyndsay Soprano / Saving The Empath with Dr. Mary Sanders
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- Mary (00:00.178) Great. Lyndsay Soprano (00:02.69) So this season, season three, has been kind of weird, but in a really good way. Amazing, chaotic. These people are coming into my world and into my universe for so many different reasons, I feel. But one of the things that's so interesting that I've found is that the guests that are coming on are challenging me. And... Mary (00:04.648) season. Lyndsay Soprano (00:27.05) I'm great with being challenged. I'm also a little bit of a stickler because I'm a control freak too, right? But I love the challenge, right? And it's an incredible thing to witnessed, to be honest. I'm watching myself shift, grow, bend, sob, my God, do I sob. Laugh like crazy too. I vent, I'm sharing more raw and real Lindsay and I did not know that there was anything left in me to be more raw and real about and I'm finding every day that there's still more that's in here that needs to be dredged up and it's okay. So this season I've decided that as more of these people in my life are coming in, I wanna dive in more to myself and I'm hoping that it's gonna help you dive into yourself a little bit more too. My guest today is a spirit that touched me. Geez Louise, I'm already crying. I'm already 17 seconds in and I'm about ready to cry. All right. My guest today is a spirit that just touched me almost instantly when I met her. So take a moment for yourself today and listen to this conversation. A conversation about how we can unveil the hidden path to our body's wisdom. No one knows our bodies better than ourselves, right? And there's an element of that that I believe in, but there's an element of it that I also believe that our people like my guests today that actually know far more about me than I do, because they feel in a different way than we do. They see things in a different way than we do. And that is something that has been very different about season three so far. We need people and others in our lives to help guide us, to help us break down walls and barriers, and also to help us protect ourselves by putting up boundaries too, which I've never been good at. But we also need someone to help us energetically, to help us understand and ask questions like, what am I here to do? What's my purpose? What am I doing here? Why am I here? I can tell you right now that there is zero chance that I would ever think in my life that I would lead to giving pain purpose, that that is what my life would be. Right now, today, in this moment, that is what I am here to do. So let's do it. Lyndsay Soprano (02:36.654) Today we are going to chat with my guest about being an empath, about carrying the weight of past trauma and inherited energies that don't serve us anymore, if they ever did, how the physical spine relates to energetic system, chakra healing, and this one hurts me pretty hard, our bodies speaking to us through pain. So without further ado, I'd like to introduce you to my incredibly compassionate and beautiful soul, my guest today, Dr. Mary Sanders. Blessing to have you here. Thank you so much for joining. Mary (03:09.788) Lindsay, I can honestly share with you that it is my honor to share space with you and the listeners today. And as I have been listening to you, thank you for that beautiful introduction. I've had the opportunity to re-center myself in present time. And I can feel, I can feel the audience. I can feel you Lindsay, and I can feel your audience as well. So sincerely, today we are sharing a beautiful space in which we'll come from a heartfelt Lyndsay Soprano (03:29.847) I know. Mary (03:38.192) empathic, compassionate, loving way. So thank you for having me. Lyndsay Soprano (03:43.766) Absolutely, and she also is an empath. So we both have our little feelies out constantly. So let me quick introduce you. Dr. Mary Sanders is a seasoned medical into that does not mean old by the way seasoned. Okay. It just means spicy and amazing medical intuitive and chiropractor with a passion for helping people heal from the inside out through energy medicine, spiritual embodiment and meditation. She guides individuals toward vibrant health, deeper happiness and a life filled with purpose. She's also the host of the internationally acclaimed and it is amazing energy medicine podcast where she dives into the powerful connection between mind, body and spirit. Dr. Mary holds a doctorate from Logan College of Chiropractic, a certificate in positive psychology from the whole billing, excuse me, whole being and a master's in tuition medicine from the Academy of Intuition Medicine. All right, I'm rolling out the red carpet for you, babe. I'd like Mary (04:41.736) Thank you so very much. Lyndsay Soprano (04:42.698) to start with what brought you to energetic healing, and then let's take it from there. Mary (04:49.04) Excellent, excellent, but I have to go back. I have to go back to the word seasoned. I don't mind the process of aging. I sincerely don't. I have a birthday coming up in about 10 days and I'll be 56. And what I am witnessing is more of myself as I continue to get older each year. And so with that comes a lot of wisdom. And what I'm learning is wisdom is just shared experience without the trigger. or the emotional response. it is, I'm just, I'm enthusiastic actually to be aging in such a graceful way. So thank you again, wonderful. I appreciate that introduction. So Lindsay, in order for me to communicate effectively to you about my shared strength, my superpowers, I need to share with everybody listening that I am hearing impaired. My hearing capacity is 50 % what the normal person hears, okay? I went undiagnosed for three years. And so that means that I was probably about three and a half years old before my parents truly understood that I could not hear in my environment. So what that meant to you and to the listeners is that I was living in this land of being between here, the physical three-dimensional world that we live in and someplace out there. meaning the fourth dimension or the fifth dimension. So I was somewhere in this quasi field, still receiving information from the spiritual realm as I was this small little person on this planet. And so what ended up happening is that I started to, and this is my belief system, and listeners, I think many of you can resonate. If you have a deficiency or a challenge physically in one area of your body, you will develop additional sensory perceptions or additional skills that will heighten your awareness within this physical world. And so what ended up happening to me, obviously at the ripe age of three, I didn't know this was happening, but I literally was feeling my way through the world. I was using my clarisentience, my ability to receive and perceive information from my environment. Mary (07:13.062) which essentially is people, things, and items. And then I used my hands through psychometry, which is the ability to receive information through my hands. And so this is how I gathered information. So as I developed, as I grew older, because I wanted to exist in this beautiful family of five, as the youngest girl of three, and... in a Catholic upbringing, chose to desensitize my gifts because I wanted to be normal, quote unquote, whatever normal is, okay? But I didn't completely forget. I knew that there was ways of living in this world that were beyond the physical dimension. Lyndsay Soprano (07:51.81) Yeah. Mary (08:02.298) And so then what ended up happening after I graduated from undergraduate school in chemistry and zoology, I literally three days later, I was in world and chiropractic school. And so I knew that I literally had to have my hands like I knew within the trillions of the cells within my body. And I kid you not, Lindsay, I knew that I had to have my physical hands on people. Lyndsay Soprano (08:14.958) . Mary (08:28.948) And that's what led me into chiropractic school. And when I arrived, I was greeted by a tribe of people who literally had the belief system that we could heal ourselves from above down inside out and that we had access. We had access to information above and beyond our traditional five senses. Lyndsay Soprano (08:52.152) Wow. Mary (08:52.368) So for the first time in my life, I knew that I was in the right place at the right time with the right people. And so what ended up happening, Lindsay, and this developed my desire to work more with energy and to become a medical intuitive is that when I was in practice, I saw such a... vast amount and diversity of beautiful physical bodies that I started to work energetically and modulating my energy levels so that when I came into a treatment area and I was greeted with a patient, I would immediately modulate one frequency higher, if not two frequency higher than the person that I was facilitating the healing for. So I very much was a energetic practitioners and I am still even more so today. So hopefully that gives you and the listeners a little bit of a flavor as to how I became who I am today. So, and which by the way, I feel completely bluffed and I love my life. Lyndsay Soprano (09:57.622) I love, well, everything you said, and that was, well, hey, that's an amazing story. Zoology, for crying out loud, to ending up touching the human body. How did that even come to play? I mean, really quick, I gotta touch on zoology. Mary (10:12.2) It led me and it gave me, provided me with all the prerequisites for pre-med school. And so those were the same requirements that I needed to get into chiropractic school. So yes, zoology and chemistry, yes. Lyndsay Soprano (10:24.405) Interesting. I have a girlfriend that has a degree in zoology and she's now a a dog walker because she can't find any jobs working in zoology. Maybe I should steer her towards chiropractic work. I don't think that she's as energetic healing as you are though. But oh my goodness. Okay. So where, where to begin? When you were speaking, I'm like, oh man, I want to go there. I want to go there. I want to go here. I want to talk a little bit about how you work. with the body and how in what you eloquently spoke about using your hands and how touching the body and using the energy of the body around you, how does that actually work? Mary (11:05.256) I love this question. I love this question because it sounds on the foundation of what you just asked. That could be a complex question to ask and to explain, I guess I should say. So essentially, I want to explain that we live in this very much three-dimensional world. We can perceive and receive, you know, the desk that I'm sitting behind, the microphone that's in front of me, the computer that's in front of If I can see it, feel it, and touch it, then that's part of my reality in the 3D world. But in that 3D world, if we look at the quantum physics of what makes that object, we know that we're dealing with particles. We're dealing with particles that are 99.9999 % energy and 0.1111 % matter. Lyndsay Soprano (12:01.07) crazy. Mary (12:01.084) So if I can wrap my head around that, if I can wrap my head around that, then I can certainly believe that there are higher dimensions, the fourth dimension and the fifth dimension, where time and space are irrelevant. You cannot create nor destroy energy. And everything is governed underneath the quantum field, which is electro and magnetically driven. So it makes it very easy. in an expanded state to hold space for others in their healing and their transformation. Lyndsay Soprano (12:37.774) Because when you recognize like you're saying like this is a death. It's hard for us to believe like is this just a perceived thing? Is this desk does this desk not look the same to you? There's some of that part of it that gets like not to use the word woo woo, but we use it here on this show and it's not a bad thing for me. I love the woo woo because the other the anti woo just really sucks. But it really is amazing how we're just we're just all of these particles that are put together and. Mary (13:00.04) Mm-hmm. Lyndsay Soprano (13:06.84) how you can actually touch us and heal us in such a quantum way. sounds out of this world, but it kind of is out of this world when you think about it. How does your body work when you're working with energy? Like, we'll use me as a guinea pig. You're working with somebody like me who is challenged with being a highly sensitive person. Mary (13:16.104) Mm-hmm. Lyndsay Soprano (13:32.684) I'm an empath as you know, everybody knows I'm a damn empath. And actually, I'm gonna take the damn out of that. I'm an empath, okay? I feel like I'm at an AA meeting. Hi, my name is Lindsay Soprano, I am an empath. But it's true because it is challenging to live when you feel and absorb everybody else's stuff. I mean, I feel like every conversation I have on this show, the people that I interview that have been through so much in- incredibly amazingly horrible traumatic things and they still show up. How they can continue on the way that they do is nothing short of a miracle to me. But how do you work with people that are so sensitive and such empaths that stress and anxiety kind of all get balled up in that too because in an example today, I have 700,000 people that come into my house every day because we're under construction. And we've got dogs that are barking and my sweetie just is kind of like running around not being helpful. And that's just kind of his jam. And I like lost it. I'm like crying in the kitchen because I can't control any of the things that are going on around me. I feel completely out of control. And I just started crying in the kitchen because I'm I'm overwhelmed with this. How do we, how do we deal with overwhelm and anxiety and stress and how do we do that with energy work? Mary (14:58.18) Okay, so I hear multiple questions. So I'm going to do my best. That's okay. No, I think it's beautiful because it gives me several touch points to talk about. And so the first thing, the first question you asked is how do I do this? Okay, so I've been trained to, I'm a long time meditator. So meditation is my world. If I don't meditate, I get cranky. Lyndsay Soprano (15:02.124) I know, sorry. Mary (15:24.644) If I get cranky, nobody's happy, right? That's just how it works. So I spend, I'm committed to my daily routine of meditation. And so before every patient that I hold space for, I meditate. And so I expand my awareness. My awareness goes beyond my traditional five senses. The next thing that I do is I open my heart. I greet you from a place of love. Lyndsay Soprano (15:27.096) Mm-mm. Mm-hmm. Mary (15:55.472) And from that place, when we're, whether it be in Zoom or if we're on the other parts of the world or in different states or, know, energy cannot be created nor destroyed. And so I can create a harmonizing frequency within my field that will shift your brain waves out of high beta stress and anxiety and bring your... brain waves down, down into a softer, more mellow alpha range. Once you're in the alpha range, your parasympathetics, the part of your autonomic nervous system that regulates over all of your automatic processes within your body, once you can shift your awareness into your parasympathetics, you're primed, ready, and willing to receive the information for healing and transformation. So to break it down, I expand my awareness. Then I center on my heart. I modulate both of our energy frequencies so that we can down-regulate our brain frequencies into a more relaxed state. Now you just did it, Lindsay. You just took a nice deep breath in. You almost had a sigh. And so we're, yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (17:14.702) I did it was it was light Well, I'm listening to you yeah Mary (17:18.458) And we're starting to ensure, well, this is harmonizing, we're in training, okay? So then this is where I can then, with the permission of the patient, I can lift the veil between the physical and the spiritual, and that just means that I'm open to receiving information on behalf of your spirit. So I just sometimes say whatever comes into my awareness so that we can facilitate healing. Lyndsay Soprano (17:22.978) Yeah. Yeah. Mary (17:47.674) in transformation for you in present time. And I know you're sitting there saying, yeah, but Dr. Mary, I've got a lot of stuff in there that we need to address. And so we all do. We all do. And so your spirit, because I'm always asking your spirit, what does Lindsay need to know right now in present time in order to be able to heal? And so the first thing I may get is, Lyndsay Soprano (17:57.966) You're telling me sister. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mary (18:17.468) Hey, look, she really needs to reclaim some of her life force energy. So that could possibly be because you have a gazillion people coming in and out of your house as a result of a construction and that you feel chaos around you. And so if I can let you create an environment for you to let go of that, even if it's just for 60 minutes while we do the, yeah, yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (18:32.407) So much chaos, yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (18:41.497) my god, I would take ten, Mary! Mary (18:44.87) And most people would because what ends up happening is you're so focused on your environment right now that your personal awareness of Lindsay healing herself, Lindsay being at her optimum, Lindsay being full of her love and joy, don't necessarily have, you can't put all of your energy out and expect to have enough to help heal yourself. And that's the trick of an empath because an empath, right? An empath is somebody who's so acutely aware of their environment that they then pick up energy and information from other people in their environment. And guess what? You carry that energy as your own because you think that you're doing the other person a service because you're like, they're really in pain. They're really having a hard time or struggling emotionally. So I'm just going to carry that for them and let their life be a little bit easier. But then what ends up happening is that as you hold that energy long enough, it then becomes part of your energy system. And then you get really super confused. You're like, what's mine? What's theirs? How come I can't find and feel self? And so then all of a sudden, my job, the first thing is that I try to get rid of all those influences from the environment, people, places and things that you are holding in your energetic field that are no longer serving you in present time. And I kid you not, that's where I spent the majority of the first couple of sessions when I'm working with women specifically. Men too, but women were such caretakers. We want to do everything for all people and be everything to all people. So being an empath is highly overrated. That comes from the second energy center. That's the energy center that we use for creation that's associated with our ovaries and our reproductive system. Lyndsay Soprano (20:30.734) Yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (20:42.528) said. Mary (20:52.178) So if we are giving, giving, giving and holding, holding, holding, then we don't have enough creative energy, A, possibly to give life to another human being or to create the life that we want to or to connect with our deepest desires. And so we have this conversation, I have this conversation with a lot of my patients in that, you know what, it's time to kind of close down and calibrate that second energy center and hold space for others in a much more compassionate way coming from the heart center. Lyndsay Soprano (21:30.254) Do you not just love this woman or what? You literally call me and I know we went, she did a mini energy session with me on our meet and greet actually, because I'm down for being the guinea pig. You had talked about A, the challenges of being an empath, which you eloquently spoke about, thank you so much. And for giving us kind of credit. for the amount that we do carry. Cause it's not like I'm being a martyr about the whole thing. It's just like, could you just leave your crap out on the door so I don't have to carry it? I feel like I am a semi truck every day and I'm lugging everybody's stuff from this side of the country to the other side of the world. I just, I'm exhausted of it all. And then you add the chaos of the house and you add the chaos of a new puppy and a dog being killed by a coyote and a sister dying and. Mary (22:06.13) Mm-hmm. Lyndsay Soprano (22:24.074) moving and getting married and I mean all of that that's just what's happened in less than a year and so that's a lot on top of just like Doing this show and doing business and you know, just all the normal day-to-day stuff that you have to do but you had talked about wanting to speak in regards to Chakras and you had mentioned just briefly about our second but you had said to me that my first and second chakras were the two that you were most concerned about. I don't know if that's your exact verbiage with me, but which are associated with themes of safety, security, and purpose. All three of which I agree with you upon. And I do, I have massive safety issues, massive security issues, and the purpose thing just kind of started happening during this show and having conversations with you. So how... How do chakras even work? Like what is a chakra? Can you explain to us? Because I know a lot of people are like, my God, here we go. Now we're getting even more woo woo. But this is legit. Like in my experience, the meditation that I do, I choose specific chakras within my body that I feel I need and I get out of my meditation and I definitely feel lighter. I certainly don't feel heavier. Can you talk a little bit about... Mary (23:29.832) Thank Mary (23:41.768) We know. Lyndsay Soprano (23:44.962) what chakras are and how they work in the energetic fields and systems and all that. I'm sorry, I'm not using the exact terminology that you would. Mary (23:52.43) So yes, I am happy to. could talk about chakras all day long. It's my most favorite topic in the world. I want you to promise to interrupt me if I get too far out there or I give you too much information. So we talk about the unseen, the energy that surrounds us in an electromagnetic force. Lyndsay Soprano (23:59.47) That's why I brought it up, baby. Lyndsay Soprano (24:08.664) I will. You got it. Mary (24:19.866) And surrounding our physical body is what we call a biofield. So it's like an egg-shaped aura, if you will, that surrounds you and separates you from everything else. Now, I say that because I believe that we're all one. There is no separateness. There is no division. So this energy system receives information from your environment every single day, 24-hour. 24 hours a day, seven days a week. So when you receive information, it travels through your biofield surrounding your physical body, and then it comes in contact with an energy center known as a chakra. And chakras are not new. This is not new agey kind of stuff, people. It's been around for thousands of years. It's branch off the Vedic sciences coming out of the Hinduism in India. And so we know, and they have proven to us, that these energy centers operate as vortices. So there are three primary functions of these energy centers. Number one is to receive information coming in from the environment. Number two, once you receive it, then you have to assimilate it, right? And then the last portion is that you take that energy and then you express your energy out into the environment. So one receive, two assimilate, three express. Now, look at it like we all have our kitchen funnels, right? The funnels that we use to take a solid or a liquid and pour it into a bottle, wide mouth, narrow spout. So it is wide at the opening and narrow. It gets narrower within your physical body. And each energy system, and there's seven of them, and I'll kind of go through these that are related to the physical body. But the point I'm trying to make is that each of those energy centers Lyndsay Soprano (26:23.886) That's a good visual. Mary (26:38.152) Number one, kind of has a brain of its own, meaning that it has a system of nerves that connect to it. That's cool, right? That connects to the physical body. And then it has an endocrine organ. And an endocrine organ, don't worry, you guys, this is not physiology 101. It is just your endocrine system is responsible for your hormonal production. Okay. Lyndsay Soprano (26:46.478) That is super cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mary (27:07.368) So then you have body regions that are associated with it. And then on top of it, you have life themes. So for example, if I were to break down your first energy center, which is located deep within your pelvis, okay? Deep within your pelvis, the nerves that connect from it come from the sacrum, which is the broad triangular bone. the body regions. You're talking about your lower colon, your rectum, you're dealing with your butt, your thighs, your knees, your ankles, your feet. Okay. The theme, yeah. And then the theme around this has to do with safety, security, and purpose. So these life experiences may be Lyndsay Soprano (27:49.848) Ding ding ding. Mary (28:04.178) Someone who was raised in an unsafe environment. Someone who was stood a major life-changing disease or trauma. Somebody who underwent some kind of an accident that promotes a lack of safety within their physical body. Maybe they were raised in a home and that was not safe emotionally. So you know that safety is a huge, huge component for regulating a coherence within your autonomic nervous system. Okay? So that's just the first energy center. That's the foundation. Right? Well, all of us, all of us, Lindsay, you and all the listeners and myself, okay? So that took me a long time to come to grips with. I mean, obviously, if I couldn't hear what, yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (28:42.542) That is the first place we need to start, Lindsay, as I'm crying over here like a sissy girl. No. Okay. Lyndsay Soprano (28:56.962) Yeah, that was heavy. Mary (29:00.904) Obviously if I couldn't hear what was happening in my environment, I was in a constant state of arousal. Like what's gonna come at me next? Like I gotta be, I gotta pay attention. I need to know what's happening at all times. Yeah. Yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (29:07.938) Yeah. Yep. Yep. Well, and especially you being a little girl, not being able to hear. I can't even imagine how scared you were. That's gross. Gosh. Yeah. Mary (29:20.178) So that took me a long time, a long time to get over. And so I understand, I understand when people have been through these traumas and they say, Mary, you're asking me to do something that's like super hard. And I get it. I get it. So my job as holding space, as I see it, is I want to balance all of these energy systems. I want to balance all the hormones. I want to balance all the organs. I want to... Lyndsay Soprano (29:33.186) Yeah, yeah. Mary (29:49.084) balance all the information so that we can live in a state of coherence. We can be balanced. We can live in homeostasis. And so once we can do that, once we are balanced to the best of our ability, that's when we are ready to receive the information about purpose and how we are going to show up in this world in our essence using all of our superpowers. Lyndsay Soprano (30:16.459) Now, can all of this super power work be done in a week? Cause I'm on a timeline. Mary (30:23.784) Okay, do want me to answer that seriously or okay? Lyndsay Soprano (30:25.102) I'm I'm kidding. I'm kidding. No, no, no, of course not. It's a lifetime of just muck that has been happening, you know, that adds up and builds up and some of it's compounded, some of it's accidents, some of it has nothing to do with me. I mean, it's just like, all of the things that I feel have just like settled from my pelvis down. And so when you talk about pelvis and fertility and infertility and all of that. and trauma and safety and security. mean, you name all of those things. mean, name it, it probably happened to me. So, you know, we've struggled. We're struggling from my hips down. I mean, that's really where my body is, is hips down. And I'm not giving up. So that was the first chakra. And we have how many more to go through? By go through, I mean talk about, cause this is really, this is not, and I'm not poo pooing it cause I think that this is an epic conversation. Mary (31:08.356) No, but... Well, I'm not gonna, you know, again, I'll... Lyndsay Soprano (31:20.31) I just want to make sure that we touch all of these because the first one seems to be like a big guy. Should I be prepared for the rest of them? Yeah, okay. Mary (31:26.152) It is a, well, kind of, kind of, because I think, Lindsay, you touched upon something that I wanna talk about, and that is this stuff that we're dealing with is multi-dimensional. I didn't get to be 56 with just everything all neat and organized and tied up in a beautiful Christmas bow. It didn't happen that way, right? Lyndsay Soprano (31:47.64) Sure, sure. Mary (31:50.376) And so when you say, I, you know, I to figure out what's mine, what's trauma related, what's emotional, what's physical, what, what's other people's, what's the environment, you know, I got to figure some of this stuff out because I've got to, I've got to have ownership or accountability for my own healing journey. And it takes time. It takes time. And so, um, you may have even said, well, what can I expect? Like how long does this actually take? And I think I may have said, you know, you'll see some changes in about Lyndsay Soprano (32:08.27) Hmm, no. Mary (32:20.242) four to six treatments. You're not going to be cured, healed, or quote unquote fixed because I don't believe that anybody comes to me from a broken place. I don't. I view everybody as being whole. Lyndsay Soprano (32:34.924) like that because we are always told in so much of the things that we need to fix that we're all broken. And it's almost like we're already defeated before we walked into the door of wherever it is we're going. Yeah, I love that. Thank you for saying that. That's the best quote that's been on my show. So congratulations. But it's true because we do, even like when you go to the gym, like for people that go to the gym, that's not my jam, but. Mary (32:46.728) Heck no. Mary (32:54.204) Yeah, and think about it. Lyndsay Soprano (33:00.684) Like you go in and you're like, you gotta work harder and you're not doing as good as you should. And you came in with all these, and like, feel like we go everywhere with this veil of that we're just these broken, beaten down people, even if that might be how we feel when we wake up in the morning. I like you saying that we are whole and now you're just taking the whole and moving some of the pieces around. Mary (33:24.392) And that is so very true. And Lindsay, I just want to say that what you just described, that's a societal conditioned response. Now where I come from in the fifth dimension, we are not separate, we're not broken, we're whole, we are part of the bigger thing that lives and resides outside of us. And so if I say you're broken, then that leads me to believe that there's a separation that we are not one. And so there's a reason, Lindsey, that you're attracting all these people talking about energy into your, on your show, because you are attracting more wholeness. Now wholeness, everybody listen, listen, when I talk about wholeness and we talk about health, I'm talking about mind, body and spirit. I'm not just talking about the Lyndsay Soprano (34:03.694) It's crazy this season. Mary (34:20.956) Physical body I want to know what's happening within the mental body. How can we get more coherence and balance? How can we work with the energetic systems? How can we get you aligned with your purpose? That's all part of the whole Lyndsay Soprano (34:35.299) Hmm. Mary (34:37.17) So you may come to me, a patient may come to me and say, yep, I'm here because the left side of my low back hurts. Okay, wow, so that's a fragment of the rest of the whole. Let's look at the whole, let's look at the energy system. We talked about the seven different energy systems. I'll bring the conversation back there. So if we think about, bless you, if we think about, there's another one coming. Lyndsay Soprano (35:04.664) I told you I'm having major allergies today. I'm trying. Put it on the list, Mary. Put it on the list. My allergies are out of control today. Mary (35:07.214) Allergies allergies. Okay. Mary (35:15.772) So I would like to, with your permission, Lindsay, I'd like to talk about just the three, the heavy hitters of each of the energy centers and I'll talk about where they are located so then the listeners can get a kind of a better feel as to where they are within physical bodies. So I said. Lyndsay Soprano (35:34.786) I like that, and especially because when we think Chalkers, we know the colors, we know the necklaces, we know the wind chimes, we know all of the things that we see all over the place on book covers and all of that. So I feel like most of us are aware, certainly people that are listening to this show, that there are colors that are associated with this. And I know that we could do a deep dive, maybe we do another episode, you and I, that deep dives into each one specifically. But for lack of, you know. We don't have all day, even though I wanna talk to you all day. Let's dive into those guys. Mary (36:07.482) Okay, so the reason that they all have colors is because there's a frequency, a wavelength that gets emanated from each of those energy centers in the form of photons and photons create light. And so the first energy center located deep within the pelvis is the slowest of all the energy centers. And so as I already talked about, it's about safety, security and trust. It's everything from the butt, hips on down. If we move up a little bit, under the belly button still is the second energy center. I've talked about it briefly. It's about creation, creativity. What are your deepest desires? So then all of a sudden you get tied into your reproductive organs and you get tied into your bladder and your kidneys and you get tied into some of the intestinal stuff. If you go a little bit higher, If you go a little bit higher into the space in your upper belly underneath your ribs, then that's going to be the third energy center where we can claim our autonomy. It's sovereignty. It's control. It's Lindsay being Lindsay and Mary being Mary. Lyndsay Soprano (37:24.982) I thought this thing should be bright red. Pencil freak. Yeah. Mary (37:28.552) Mm-hmm. So that energy center, yeah, those, and think about it, because these are the lower three energy centers that I just described are about 95 % of where all of the energy is captured in your physical body. Okay? When we go up into the heart space, which is the fourth energy center, this is like the bridge, the bridge between the physical dimension and the spiritual dimension. And it's within this space that we get to experience love in its purest form, joy, gratitude, okay? That's above and beyond perfectionism, judgment, any of those other negative qualities that might be residing within that space. So your lung tissues, your heart, your... those are the areas that we're talking about that the body connects to it. And then if we go a step higher, we're in the space, this is the fifth energy center located within your neck, okay? And most people say, yeah, yeah, I know what the neck is, that's all about my voice. But really it's about connecting to your authentic expression. So once you can connect into your creative desire, then you can authentically express how you want to align with that creative desire. And so then all of a sudden we're dealing with neck issues, we're dealing with shoulders, elbows, arms, wrist issues. That comes from this space of the neck. So we're dealing with the thyroid, okay? So many women have... either an overactive or an underactive thyroid and it's because we've been kind of conditioned by our environment to not speak our truth. true and that, yeah, true. Metaphorically and. Lyndsay Soprano (39:25.846) Not to be strangled. And not in the good way, guys. Not in the good way. Yeah, the stifling, suffocating, I can't be who I am, and so much of that comes from our culture and what us women are supposed to be like and how, know, I was getting my hair done the other day, her name is Lindsay as well, it's beautiful name. And she was talking about how she, Like we should, what are we, are we slowly going back to being excited about buying it, getting a new blender for Christmas and a new vacuum? Because I feel like we're sliding a little bit backwards. So that chakra, we need to get wide on open ladies and men. Yeah. Yes, yes. Well said. Mary (40:14.381) I totally agree. I totally agree. There's an opportunity for expansion there. Mary (40:22.204) And so then if you go into the sixth energy center, that's behind your forehead, and that's connected to your pineal gland, which is really responsible for light and dark cycles, like your sleep rhythms, your circadian rhythms. And this is kind of like where you start to identify, it's like where you see the truth, okay? And so I say this because oftentimes we run into limiting belief systems. that are outdated. And so when you have a highly functional sixth energy center, then you can start to see, I see. That's a belief system that's no longer true. So that's where clairvoyance comes from. And then the seventh energy center is located on the top of our head. And this is where we can connect into abstract knowledge, information above and beyond the traditional five senses. And we know that we are one with something that exists outside of us. And so those are the main seven physical, those are the seven energy centers related to your physical body. There's so many more you guys, but that's those are the, yeah, so many more, so many more. That's just. Lyndsay Soprano (41:33.845) What? God, you just killed me. Are you kidding me? There's more than that. mean, I literally, you actually just floored me because I've always, mean, audience, I don't know what you guys are thinking about this, but I've always like, it's the heart, it's the, the, the, the, you know, the head, the heart, the throat chakra, the, you know, so on and so forth. And I do a lot of work in my throat chakra actually. It looks like I need to be looking a little bit lower. But wow, there's so, how many more are there of these things? I mean, this is insane. We don't have the time to go through all of them if there's like 350,000 of them. Mary (42:08.506) Mm-hmm. No, no, no, no. But honestly, because I believe that the naughty system, the naughty channels and the meridian systems are all forms of chakras, you know, the acupuncture points, I'm going to say, you know, that they're possibly maybe an infinite number, you know, it's just they're there. It's so multidimensional, Lindsay, that, you know, for me, just to touch upon the lower seven is just the Lyndsay Soprano (42:22.659) Hmm. Lyndsay Soprano (42:29.458) my goodness. Mary (42:37.116) just the beginning of the conversation. Lyndsay Soprano (42:39.522) Wow, well you did an excellent and eloquent job of doing this. mean, I feel, well you just have a, there's just something about you. You make me feel like I'm okay. Mary (42:50.567) Hmm. Mary (42:56.05) Because you are. You're better than okay. Lyndsay Soprano (42:56.184) So there. Thank you. Well, and I hope that that helps other people to feel a little bit more whole in their day as they're driving or listening or sleeping wherever you're doing this thing, where you're listening to me. And thank you for doing that and holding space for Mary and I today because that was how I opened and I wanted to make sure that you guys did listen to this conversation. Certainly one that I needed to have with you and was looking forward to it. my gosh, there's so much more that I wanna talk to you about. So what do we do now? So here we are, we're Lindsay. I need work with you. I want energetic healing. I do. And I know that's the place that I am. It's the universe like you mentioned. It's all coming to me right now because I've done all the physical stuff. I've done all the doctors. I've done all the tests. I've done all these things. Nothing can explain what's happening in my body. So this is why I'm seeking yourself energetic healing, reiki, hypnosis, other... The five D. In fact, yesterday I recorded an episode with somebody and we spoke about 3d 40 5d the differences between those which was a great segue for me to have this conversation with you because it was just so heightened already So what what do we do here in order to work with somebody like you? are next steps that we can take outside of? You are whole you do not need to live in a world of shame and guilt and all of the things that we talked about say What can we do next? Mary (44:32.84) Sure. Well, Lindsay, I want to say that I would like to offer the same opportunity that you had to your listeners and that is you and had an opportunity to talk. We got to know one another. And then it was only then that you realized that there was an affinity or a desire to connect. And I think that that should be true for all people. Meaning that if you're listening and you're like, I kind of like what this lady's saying, but Lyndsay Soprano (44:43.618) Yeah, we did. Mary (45:02.33) I don't know, I don't know. I don't know if she's the right person. Like, I don't know if I can trust her. I don't know if I like her. I don't know, you know, if I resonate with her. Lyndsay Soprano (45:08.686) She's seasoned. Mary (45:13.736) I love that, I love that. Yes, seasoned is a good... How about I'm wise, I'm wise. Lyndsay Soprano (45:14.903) You're welcome! Lyndsay Soprano (45:20.846) You are a seasoned is the word that came up from chat GPT when I did your bio Mary (45:25.796) you Lyndsay Soprano (45:30.04) We're gonna do hot and spicy and wise, how about that? Sorry for interrupting. Mary (45:33.124) Okay, okay. So we're gonna we're gonna lean into that I will allow that to to to open up for me. So so listeners on my website, there's an opportunity for you to do a discovery call there's no charge. So just put your information in there, create a time, you know, just say, look, I heard you on Lung V show, tell me about yourself or let me tell me about let me tell you about me, you know, all those, you know, all those let's get together, let's connect. If you intuitively know that this is the right time to be dealing with these issues and you are ready to undergo healing and we all know that transformation is not always easy. If that is the case then prioritize it. Prioritize it and what that means to me is make time for yourself. Make time for your own personal journey, including the sessions. Just make time for yourself instead of being the last person on your list. So that's my words of wisdom right there. Lyndsay Soprano (46:43.488) I love it and I am the queen of me being the last on my list and I talk about all the time on this show. And I said season three is gonna be different and so far it's like whoa. But I didn't know what I was doing when I started this show to tell you the honest truth. I just knew that I needed to find help and I didn't know what it even was. And in having these incredibly intimate and raw and real conversations with people of. the resilience that they have, the things that they've gone through, the things they've persevered through, and how tired we all look at the end of it. But that's part of our wisdom. That's part of our growth. That's part of our journey. You know, I'm going to be proud of my baggy eyes at some point in my life, right? I need sleep. Everybody knows I need to sleep. So I'm hoping that a little bit of the energetic work that we're talking about, because I'm going to be starting to work with her as well. is something that can at least take off some of the burden that I have chosen to carry as being an empath too, and release some of these people. And I've been slowly doing it, but I feel like I need to like take a big dump truck and bring it to the dump and dump it all out and get going with that. So I can find what you've been talking about this whole episode, which is that, my gosh, I just wanna feel like, I wanna feel that. Like I'm that whole person that you're saying that I am. Because I feel I've got bits and pieces in everybody else's world. And I'm always taking care of everybody else. And then it's like, OK, it's midnight. And now it's time for me. No. Mary (48:22.3) Yeah, yeah. Listening to you, Lindsay reminds me that on my website, I don't know which page it is, I think it's on every page. At the top, you'll see that there is an opportunity to download some guided meditations. The reason I'm bringing this up now is Lindsay was talking about how do I get rid of other people's energy out of my system? And one of those three meditations is what we call a detached alignment. And essentially that is your opportunity to learn how to mutually separate from people, places and things and to remove that energy out of your system. it guides, the meditation is intended to guide you through that person so that you can begin to un- people, release things, release places that no longer serve you. So again. Lyndsay Soprano (48:58.711) Hmm. Lyndsay Soprano (49:13.708) Mm-hmm. Yeah, absolutely. Mary (49:18.192) Yeah, just, you talked about that and it was a plug to remind me to share that with the listeners. Lyndsay Soprano (49:24.842) Yeah, absolutely. So if you go to her website and you can find her everywhere on Insta and Facebook, LinkedIn, her website is Dr. Mary Sanders, exactly how you would think that it would be spelled. And then her Insta is Dr. Mary E. Sanders, because we need to throw in the middle initial just to throw us off our game. But she's on Insta, Facebook, LinkedIn and her website. Of course, I'll put this all in show notes and an email marketing as well. Please reach out to me if you are interested in connecting with her. Mary (49:44.997) Right. Lyndsay Soprano (49:54.092) If you can't find her or what have you, please let me know. I'm happy to connect. This has been absolutely wonderful. And one of the things that you, there's a quote that's on your website that I found that it says, what if living a life filled with health, happiness and purpose didn't have to be so hard? And I love that, so thank you. Whew. As I thought, I was going to cry. But it's good tears with you, Mary. It really is. They feel different. Mary (50:27.218) Good, I'm glad. Lyndsay Soprano (50:28.066) Yeah. All right. Are you ready to hit the dusty trail? I'm not. I want to keep talking to you, but we need to honor your time and your value, your time and our space together today. But thank you so much for being here today, Mary. I really appreciate it. Mary (50:32.872) Okay. Mary (50:42.13) I appreciate you as well. I feel blessed to be in your space. Lyndsay Soprano (50:46.666) Thank you so very much So before we hit the dusty trail here guys I have a new bite-sized extension of the pain game podcast go to my bio in my Instagram Page and I've got my link in there and it will lead you to a little form that you can fill it takes like two seconds But it's you being able to not be a guest on a podcast being afraid or being whatever It's you sharing a little bit about yourself. Whatever's on your mind good bad ugly chaotic what cracked you open this week? what stitched you back together, you just tell me what it is and I'm including that into these little pain bites. So upload your voice recording, it's simple as can possibly be. I wanna help you speak your voice out loud if I can in any way, or form. 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